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  • @NeptuneSega
    @NeptuneSega Год назад +5

    Thanks for all the free content you give us. I loved the voice in your head segment and really thought I forgot my meds, haha!

  • @ChipLinck
    @ChipLinck 8 месяцев назад +2

    I was just thinking about this type of device the other day. I'm really happy to see it exists. I'm looking forward to where this goes next. I'd get the big brother if I was buying today. It would just be an editing NAS.

  • @thelonercoder5816
    @thelonercoder5816 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'll be getting this as my first NAS. I was looking into this stuff for like 2 years but could never bite the bullet but now I'm 100% getting this. It's awesome lol.

  • @antonw.zimakos8981
    @antonw.zimakos8981 Год назад

    Yehhhoo! Nice to see you! And your new video for my experience!

  • @sprtwlf9314
    @sprtwlf9314 Год назад +1

    Of course i love the tech shown on this channel but I also watch for the humor. The crying next to the rack and the voices telling you buy more shit 😂😂😂 good stuff.

  • @shadowr2d2
    @shadowr2d2 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for posting this video 🎉. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the great 👍..

  • @RoccoWocco
    @RoccoWocco Год назад +6

    A great thing about this lil box is that u can just run truenas on it or unraid with ease. So if someone buys it, doesn't like the OS then well u have options

    • @kyjo72682
      @kyjo72682 Год назад +2

      Really? That's good to know. Have you tried running TrueNAS on it? Is the CPU good enough for ZFS encryption?

  • @RichardSwift
    @RichardSwift Год назад +19

    That voice in your head tho. Lol

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Год назад +5

      Gets me every time

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling Год назад +4

      Ah you, too have that voice

    • @choahjinhuay
      @choahjinhuay Год назад

      I’m glad I’m not alone in that

  • @NightHawkATL
    @NightHawkATL Год назад +4

    one day, i will have a standalone NAS other than TrueNAS and I appreciate the videos showing the different options. Keep up the great work!

  • @cybeard_space
    @cybeard_space Год назад +5

    I think I'm probably within the target audience. I could absolutely use a device capable of nvme raid that seems to be fairly decent as a media server. I also like the idea of having the ability to tinker with VMs, and the dual 2.5g ethernet combined with the ability to use this as both an smb server and an ftp server is very valuable. I usually prefer to have more ability to choose my own OS, but I think I'd make an exception in this case due to the ease of use.

    • @Supermath101
      @Supermath101 Год назад +4

      Asustor recently uploaded a series of videos going over using a few different open source NAS OS options.

  • @this_is_tn
    @this_is_tn Год назад

    Love your content!

  • @timsandman
    @timsandman Год назад

    Thanks. Love you videos. Making NAS cool (which it is!!)

  • @Tenly2009
    @Tenly2009 Год назад +9

    Since it’s obviously a niche product anyhow, why the hell wouldn’t they offer it with 3 or 4 different CPU options? It could turn this into an all in one home server platform that could do just about anything you wanted it to - at the same time that it’s doing everything I want it to!

  • @MrErball
    @MrErball 11 месяцев назад +3

    Here’s for hoping they eventually offer a simple solution with a 3x3.5” with 4xNVME drive support in a hybrid cache/bulk storage device. You can absolutely do this with TrueNAS, but the allure of an ‘off-the-shelf’ item would be amazing.

    • @tokyojerry
      @tokyojerry 7 месяцев назад

      ASUSTOR AS5402T NIMBUSTOR 2 Gen2 [NAS]

  • @flywheeldk
    @flywheeldk Год назад +1

    Wouldn't mind one of these - as my primary concerns is consumption and capacity. I really do not think the speed would bother me. At the moment I'm using a 4x2 Terabyte software RAID5 through a cheap PCI-64bit controller - added to my webserver that is driven by an Atom D2550 with 4 Gigs of memory - and I think it works fine. So yes I'm definitely a part of the target audience.

    • @Noodlepunk
      @Noodlepunk 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I just want to retire my HDDS with all my anime lol.

  • @nlingrel
    @nlingrel Год назад

    I do some hobby-level web dev stuff. Can this thing run docker images that are custom made or do they have to come from Docker Hub?

  • @THEG12EG
    @THEG12EG 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can you expand the raid? Or change it. I want to start with 2/3 drives then add more

  • @SerinJameson
    @SerinJameson 7 месяцев назад

    I'm kind of interested in this for CG/VFX work.
    Been noodling around with the idea of having an NVME box for all my textures, materials and other random big shit storage for a while.

  • @adrianTNT
    @adrianTNT 11 месяцев назад +2

    0:16 imagine your family walking in on you while you film yourself doing that 😅

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  11 месяцев назад

      I’ve asked my wife to film much worse

  • @raiuno90
    @raiuno90 Год назад

    I'm a little worried about the maximum RAID Volume size being 4TB. Which is a shame as I'd love to load up the 12 bay version with 4tb m.2.

  • @crosswire
    @crosswire 10 месяцев назад

    Can you use mixed sized nvme? would the speeds decrease then..just curious.

  • @kernzilla
    @kernzilla 23 дня назад

    Love the idea of this thing, perhaps in the next year or two I’ll be courageous enough to implement lol (and let those 4-8tb drives come down in price 🤑
    Curious: what is your drive monitoring/health interface like on this? Guessing with nvme, rebuild time would have to be impressive compared to HDDs.
    Thanks and keep up the good work on the channel!

  • @jayrock4ya
    @jayrock4ya Год назад +1

    or I could just by a PCIE adapter . nice video!!!

  • @zulfafazlee8853
    @zulfafazlee8853 10 месяцев назад

    Hello what name cases NAS for put m.2 on this video?

  • @DJaquithFL
    @DJaquithFL 11 месяцев назад +16

    The lack of 10GbE is a deal breaker and IMO a real dumb move considering this is a M.2 based NAS, but at least the larger model has 10GbE.

    • @user-dr2pg8fk2i
      @user-dr2pg8fk2i 9 месяцев назад +5

      They have a version with 10GbE

    • @DJaquithFL
      @DJaquithFL 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@user-dr2pg8fk2i .. You may want to read what I said again. 😉

    • @hmj8469
      @hmj8469 3 месяца назад

      @@user-dr2pg8fk2i what is the model number for the 10GbE?

  • @limeisgaming
    @limeisgaming Год назад

    Could one use it as a LAN-Cache (Steamcahe and the likes)?

  • @Sfeclicel
    @Sfeclicel Год назад

    How this N5015 supports 32gb of ram when on the official intel page this chip supports only 16gb?

  • @mohamedelshekhiby8247
    @mohamedelshekhiby8247 Год назад

    love the video. i have a some what related Question, can it support the SABRENT M.2 NVMe SSD 8TB Gen 4?? forget speed i am looking to build a DAS out of Nvme ssd's so here is the question in detail (if i buy this device and put in it 12 SABRENT M.2 NVMe SSD 8TB Gen 4 for a total of 96TB storage and never connect the eathernet cable to it, just connect it to my pc via usb connection and set up the raid system for it, will it work????? ) i keep looking for a NVME ssd enclousere that takes that many ssds but most are big bulky and take like 4) . so can it work ?????

    • @unraidpl7973
      @unraidpl7973 7 месяцев назад

      As far as I know, it won't work like DAS. These USB ports only work in one direction. But I'm waiting for him to come and test it.

  • @activate-motivation
    @activate-motivation 8 месяцев назад

    dude my 5 years old qnap nas drive is 4tb......... why would u get 900gb nvme ? get 9 tb sabrent

  • @Krates_Ng
    @Krates_Ng 11 месяцев назад

    is it picky about the makes of the NVMEs? I have some unused 512 nvme ssds laying around but they are different makes.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  11 месяцев назад

      Nope you should be fine

  • @sternosaur
    @sternosaur Год назад

    The voice in my head says that all the time!!

  • @gerald4027
    @gerald4027 4 месяца назад

    Can it do raid 1 to protect my saved solitaire games?

  • @JasonsLabVideos
    @JasonsLabVideos Год назад +1

    I want one !

  • @charminbaer2323
    @charminbaer2323 5 месяцев назад

    I think we're finally getting to that point where NVMe SSD prices are finally getting down to the prices of 2.5" SSDs and worth having a look for NAS/DAS use for non professionals/regular people. I looked up SSDs on Amazon, and 4TB SSDs can be had for around $200 right now for either 2.5" SATA or NVMe. Obviously for larger mass storage, HDD's are still gonna be the best bang for your buck. I'm a photographer and currently use 2 OWC Thunderbay 4 DAS drives, one is the mini 2.5" version. The mini one I use for external storage of my photo library. I have 4 2TB SSD's in there in RAID 0. The bigger drive has 4 3TB 3.5" HDD in RAID 0 for a backup of the other drive. If I was editing video on a NAS, I would def look into getting an NVMe NAS. For now, I hope SSD prices in general keep going down.

  • @dannid.8115
    @dannid.8115 10 месяцев назад

    Is NAS with Hard disk will vanish in the market, maybe in 3 years? Because the falling prices of SSD?

  • @JustClem001
    @JustClem001 Год назад

    One of a kind engineering masterpiece? Or just another insane scientist with Nvme's? Either way a normal network engineer

  • @J0ermungand
    @J0ermungand Год назад +3

    Heh, due to the currently low price for 2TB NVMe SSDs I've actually built a Frankenstein NAS + Mediacenter. I'm using a PCIe splitter that splits the M.2 M slot into 4 separate PCIe lanes brought out via USB3 headers (I know, weird). I run each lane to a PCIe switch to get 3 more PCIe x1 ports per lane for a total of 12 PCIe x1 slots. And then I use a simple PCIe x1 slot to M.2 M Key adapter to plug in those NVMe SSDs.
    I'm up to 4 NVMe 2TB SSDs now (still expanding), using LVM on Linux to make those physical disks into one logical volume for storage.
    But that's all in the name of silent and affordable storage, I haven't done any speed tests, but I'd imagine it can keep up with SATA drives even though it's sharing a single x1 slot between 3 SSDs.
    Base system is a Minisforum UM773 (Ryzen 7 7735HS), so I have plenty of processing power.

    • @mcgarnacle21
      @mcgarnacle21 Год назад +2

      Your setup is crazy man

    • @J0ermungand
      @J0ermungand Год назад

      @@mcgarnacle21 Yes, yes it is :P

    • @martinquintana2458
      @martinquintana2458 10 месяцев назад

      What's the performance on your setup? Certainly sounds crazy AF but doable. Hopefully it doesn't crash or catch fire lol

    • @J0ermungand
      @J0ermungand 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@martinquintana2458 so far it's been working great. No crashing. Didn't do a performance test just using it is faster than a regular HDD. I've got 6 ssd's on it now with a total capacity of 12tb. When 4tb ssd prices come down as well I'm gonna double that number.
      The array is also filled with 7tb of data from the old hdd, so it's not sitting there empty and idle either

    • @limebulls
      @limebulls 8 месяцев назад

      What’s this m.2 to pcie splitter called? Would like to buy it

  • @bertnijhof5413
    @bertnijhof5413 Год назад +1

    How do you know the Celeron CPU does not slow down your server with all those nvme-SSDs. I have a Ryzen 3 2200G desktop and one SP 512GB nvme-SSD (3400/2300MB/s). I have a number of clues, that the nvme-SSD is slowed down by the CPU, due to a relative large system latency and due the lz4 compressed L1ARC memory cache of OpenZFS. Typical a Xubuntu Virtualbox VM initial boot time is ~7.5 seconds, but after the 3rd reboot, basically from the L1ARC memory cache the boot time is reduced to ~6 seconds. My conclusion; during VM booting the CPU is the bottleneck not the nvme-SSD.
    I don't have problems running VMs from my 2 TB HDD. I have a L2ARC cache of a SP 128GB sata-SSD (530MB/s). After a month of building up L2ARC, the initial boot times are approx 2x as long, so for the Xubuntu VM 15 seconds, but the reboot times will reach 6 seconds again :) Those reboot times are very nice, if you update the kernel of a number of Ubuntu derivaties and flavors :) :) I have 30 Linux VMs and 2 Windows VMs still receiving updates.
    I have the impression that HDDs in Raid-0 are more responsive. I now have one HDD 192MB/s, while 1 year ago I had 2 (133MB/s + 110MB/s), one died after 10 power-on years. The other one I use in an USB case for max 1/2 hour per week as part of a 2nd backup. This one has ~9 power-on years, but it is now almost completely retired. I'm Dutch, so I only throw out stuff, if they are really broken.
    I have the mouse problem too for some ancient Ubuntu versions. I now do the first click in the VM on the location of the mouse pointer in the VM, afterwards the mouse pointer location stays correct again :) :(

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Год назад

      I mean I did say it would benefit from a better CPU so it’s very possible that it could be bottlenecked.

  • @limebulls
    @limebulls 8 месяцев назад

    20-30 watts for a n5105? Sounds very high!

  • @fabriglas
    @fabriglas Месяц назад

    Can you update to cover gen2?

  • @michaelmanus7765
    @michaelmanus7765 Год назад

    I have seen other reviews and all say that the RAM cannot be upgraded beyond 16gigs and two 16 gigs sticks will fail. So did you upgrade RAM to 32 gigs as you said?

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Год назад +1

      Yes

    • @itz_premium
      @itz_premium Год назад

      May be something turned off in BIOS/UEFI/firmware? I've had processor data sheets tell me they only support 16 or 32 gb and still function (maybe not optimally) with 32 or 64 gb. Also had them work at speeds above what spec sheet said too with no visible issues.
      I have an old i5 7th or 8th workstation that allegedly only works up to 16Gb ddr4 2133mhz but it has 32gb (2x16gb) 3200mhz and runs fine. Probably doesn't make use of top transfer speeds but it will utilize all 32gb when under load.

  • @house9850
    @house9850 3 месяца назад

    I wonder if you could upgrade that Celeron

  • @pieteryts
    @pieteryts Год назад +1

    nice man. great to see NAS keep developing following drives updates. while it's still faster to build a PC to support all that nvme drives speed, but power usage and form factor will be a huge issue.
    thank you for your great vids.
    PS: please don't eat us if we are delicious. lol

  • @paultang5369
    @paultang5369 Год назад

    what sort of m.2 will this NAS take?Like gen 4 or gen 3

    • @Supermath101
      @Supermath101 Год назад

      It should technically work with either, but the speed will always be limited to gen3 x1.

  • @YHK_YT
    @YHK_YT Год назад +3

    You really have to step up your game for the next video, like an all usb flash drive nas, that sounds like a great idea

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Год назад +2

      It’s funny because you’re not too far off lol

    • @YHK_YT
      @YHK_YT Год назад

      @@RaidOwlyes but what if you want to move some files and you’re not concerned to any network?
      See now that’s why you’d want to unplug your storage and move it, except you can’t do that with an m.2 (not very easy I tried). imagine it’s a usb drive, just unplug mid file transfer and move it, now that’s a No network Attach and detach Storage if I’ve ever seen one

  • @omarguerrero6417
    @omarguerrero6417 11 месяцев назад

    Wish there somethings like this for pc to add more storage on computers without openings the case

  • @TMoneyJones
    @TMoneyJones Год назад

    My guy casually slipped in "The Hub" LOL. Don't think we didn't notice.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Год назад

      Hey man I didn’t say WHICH hub

  • @slowbluesmaster
    @slowbluesmaster 17 дней назад

    Time to review the recently released Gen 2 version (FS6806T), with beefed up specs

  • @prashanthb6521
    @prashanthb6521 Год назад

    HDD zfs with NVMe cahe can do the same job as this isnt it ?

    • @daveg4417
      @daveg4417 Год назад +1

      As soon as you exhaust the cache you will drop to hard drive speeds. Most people only have 500GB to 1TB of NVMe cache in their NAS systems.

  • @guygoerres9670
    @guygoerres9670 11 месяцев назад

    would there be enough space to put NVMe's with heatsink ?

    • @limebulls
      @limebulls 8 месяцев назад

      Great question I would like it to be 100% passive too and the nvme fan is the only non passive component to get rid off

    • @itssoaztek4592
      @itssoaztek4592 8 месяцев назад

      yes

  • @SBF_FTX593
    @SBF_FTX593 9 месяцев назад +1

    Needs 10gb ethernet. Those 2.5g ports will get saturated very quickly and become a huge bottleneck into those SSD's. Even if you can do port aggregation, 5gbit is 1/10th the SSD speed.

  • @LeonLionHeart
    @LeonLionHeart 11 месяцев назад

    LAG does not give you a combined NIC to give you 5Gbps. It just widens the lanes across the 2.5Gbps interface. Allowing a lot more incoming traffic from other endpoints connecting to it.
    Bascially, it does not make it faster in terms of speed from one particular endpoint. It allows multiple endpoints faster connectivity to the server. Think of it as you have a two lane highway. All LAG does is turn that two lane highway into a four laned highway. It is going to be the same distance to the location and you still have to go the speed limit, but more people can get there faster because you've opened more lanes.
    I'll be honest, this CPU can't even handle full 10Gbps (on the Pro model which has 12 NVMe slots and a 10Gbps NIC). MAYBE from one endpoint. But adding an additional endpoint is going to bottleneck the CPU and how it handles network traffic.

  • @MultiRanman
    @MultiRanman Год назад +1

    I have mixed feelings about this device. The idea of it is cool. NAS have limitations and we ask them to do more than what they can do. This device is small, low power and can bridge the gap between a true server / VM device and a true storage NAS device. On the other hand, I think it's more expense than it should be for what you get. That said, it's better than what Synology and QNAP have come up with.

    • @limeisgaming
      @limeisgaming Год назад +1

      One of its problem is that the Intel Celeron N5105 Processor has only 8 pcie 3.0 lanes according to intels datasheet on the processor,
      I think they would have been better of using a zen4 apu like phoenix (7040U) which runs at 15-30W and has 20 Pcie 4.0 lanes aswell as ddr5 or lpddr5x even though, ddr5 would be better for customising. with the zen 4 apu one would have enogh pcie lanes to toallow the 6 bay version to run at full pcie 3.0 bandwith.
      Edit: the 7040Us Graphic CUs are fewer but more advanced ones with AV1 encoding and decoding support

  • @Noodlepunk
    @Noodlepunk 10 месяцев назад

    You got me i just want to retire my Hdds with all my anime on it. 😂

  • @jeffnew1213
    @jeffnew1213 Год назад +3

    Unfortunately, the 6-bay device is hobbled by its dual 2.5Gb interface. The 12-bay version is hobbled by its price and, possibly, by its 10Gb interface. SMB over 10Gb isn't as fast as it sounds. And, yes, the CPU is a bit underpowered.

    • @wolf2965
      @wolf2965 Год назад

      Both versions are also hobbled by the abysmal number of PCIe lanes that it actually provides to the drives - N5105 powering it has a total a total of 8 PCIe Gen 3 lanes, shared with the 2x2.5GbE/10GbE ports no less. Multiplexers make it "kind of" work, but that's about it.

    • @jeffnew1213
      @jeffnew1213 Год назад +1

      @@wolf2965 All the reviewers seemed very enamored by these two devices, but fail totally to take into consideration that they use very fast storage non-optimally, and can't deliver near that "quickness" over the network. Gotta call both devices a "fail."

    • @kyjo72682
      @kyjo72682 Год назад

      @@jeffnew1213 Depends on what you need. Small size, low weight, low noise, and power consumption may outweigh the network limits if you don't really need >2.5 Gb.. The biggest question is, imo, is it worth the cost of those SSDs?

  • @jfkastner
    @jfkastner Год назад

    Great review, nice Gadget, but too pricey

  • @Nightowlz1966
    @Nightowlz1966 7 месяцев назад

    I was thinking of starting a channel soon and was wondering what mic your using? I see a lot of content creators have the mics right in their faces but you keepsnyours out of view.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  7 месяцев назад +1

      Rode NTG4+, it sits just out of frame

    • @Nightowlz1966
      @Nightowlz1966 7 месяцев назад +1

      Would be nice for a short video of your streaming studio setup 😊

  • @user-dr2pg8fk2i
    @user-dr2pg8fk2i 9 месяцев назад

    Would this work with UnRAID?

  • @notreal5311
    @notreal5311 Год назад +1

    Good video, but I feel like it was kinda rushed and light on info. You got outcycled by a lot of similar youtube channels by a week + and I feel like they had more in-depth performance testing etc. No worries tho! I did just buy one of these, I'm going to use it with some 4TB NVME drives to serve up movies (download only, no streaming) to a bunch of users on a LAN in the desert. Hopefully it doesn't melt!

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Год назад +8

      Yeah figured wasn’t worth it to regurgitate the info everyone else already showed so I went with a more “user experience” video 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @itssoaztek4592
      @itssoaztek4592 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@RaidOwl That was a very good decision from my point of view. Your video helped me a lot to understand what this device can and should be used for!

  • @zacharylewis417
    @zacharylewis417 Год назад

    Price just doesn't sit right for me. Had the CPU been more beefier and more ram included. I'd go for it.

  • @huplim
    @huplim 7 месяцев назад

    “Home movies”
    😏😏😏😏😏

  • @johnnyxp64
    @johnnyxp64 11 месяцев назад

    Interesting device BUT the fact that Nvme drives will not survive as long as a NAS type HDD drive is making it hard to choose.
    There is no way 5years of 2 WD Red HDD will be beaten by few nvme drives when it comes to durability

  • @5argetech56
    @5argetech56 Год назад +1

    I'm using my Asus RT-AC65 router as a NAS on the cheap! I have a Samsung SSD connected to the USB port. The Drive is available on my network. Windows, Linux and Android can all access the drive filled with movies and TV shows.

    • @daveg4417
      @daveg4417 Год назад

      I hope that you make backups. :)

  • @meccu19
    @meccu19 Год назад

    Nice one :( but 48 tb not enough ... I wish to have at least 20 nvme, that will be sexy

  • @ngenes1
    @ngenes1 11 месяцев назад

    Run a hybrid best of both.

  • @joshhardin666
    @joshhardin666 Год назад +1

    the cpu is way too slow for 12 nvme drives - I can also gurentee that there aren't enough pcie lanes to go around so the nvme drives are going to be starved for bandwidth (i'm guessing they're using pcie switch chips here). every modern pcie3/4 nvme drive uses 4 pcie lanes. the cpu straight up doesn't have enough lanes to do this and thus performance of the flash is going to be pretty bad compared to what it could do in a machine with an appropriate number of pcie lanes (say a xeon setup). FURTHER, if you configure a raid type that uses parity, the cpu is going to be a HUGE throughput bottleneck as it's straight up not powerful enough to do parity calculations that quickly. if you decide to use zfs on it that actually does real data check summing, and checksum comparisons on block reads it's just going to choke. there ARE ways to do something like this correctly (i.e. find a platform with enough pcie lanes for all the devices you want to be able to offer AND find a platform that is capable of acceptably processing the parity and checksum data on a per block basis from storage that fast), but that's not what this is.
    for people that this is targeted at, I would recommend a (significantly less expensive) tiered system. 8 spinning 14tb disks in raidz2 and 2 mirrored 2tb m.2 nvme drives as zil, l2arc, and metadata device , and then install 128gb of ram in it to act as a read cache.

    • @fwiler
      @fwiler Год назад +1

      You are bottlenecked by network speed, so the 6 pcie lanes is plenty. This is perfect for people that have a bunch of left over nvme drives that they have upgraded through the years. And btw zfs works fine and doesn't choke as I'm running it right now on mine. Not sure why you think some giant, 8 mechanical drive, noisy monstrosity would be the same target audience.

  • @notafbihoneypot8487
    @notafbihoneypot8487 Год назад

    Based

  • @jaimeduncan6167
    @jaimeduncan6167 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing. OK, 2.5gbit basically kills the box we are in in 2023 no reason why a high-performance NAS will not have at least a 10gbe option. Ideally, it will come with it. If you are buying it to run many virtual machines to run databases or build software is seems like a nice device, but the CPU will not help you. Finally, the software is not on par with QNAP or SYNOLOGY and you don't have the cloud integration. Probably there is a niche for this box. On the other hand, the price is fantastic. The 12 bay do have 10gbe

  • @bujin5455
    @bujin5455 4 месяца назад

    It's disgusting that it doesn't have 10GigE on it. Why have an NVMe only NAS, and not have 10GigE?

  • @BrentLeVasseur
    @BrentLeVasseur 8 месяцев назад

    No the voice in my head is saying, it’s absurd to have such a crazy fast M2 raid with only a 2.5GB lan connection bottlenecking it. 😂 This thing needs 10GB min, 40GB ideal, as in a Mac thunderbolt 3 connection.

  • @ITBlanka
    @ITBlanka Год назад

    Why am I not the target audience?
    Because if I wanted to use this with all the good aspects you mentioned, I'd rather buy a tower and setup myself.
    Maybe this is for the IT guy who want click and go solutions (although as mentioned on the comments asustor does not have the best apps support).
    I would buy if the price would not be prohibitive(considering the upgrades needed and nvme cost).

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Год назад +1

      Yeah it’s def not for everyone

    • @daveg4417
      @daveg4417 Год назад

      Buying a tower means that you are fine with a much larger form factor. Not everyone is, although in my opinion this Asustor unit is really a thin market segment.

    • @ITBlanka
      @ITBlanka Год назад

      @@daveg4417 mini/mid itx.

  • @ITBlanka
    @ITBlanka Год назад

    0:11 s 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

  • @carlchristenisnes6763
    @carlchristenisnes6763 Год назад

    That is just too much for too little storage... and the reviewd one should have a 10gbit interface aswell

  • @canalminimapa
    @canalminimapa Год назад +1

    I still don't trust SSDs, bought 3, all dead now. Went back to spinning drives, because when they are about to die they tell you, so can back up your stuff. SSDs just die instantly, so for the first time in ten years I lost all my data, thanks to a sudden death of a SSD. Now I have one NVME for Windows and all my stuff on spinning discs.

    • @daveg4417
      @daveg4417 Год назад +2

      Backups! I don't trust anything. I use NVMe's in all of my systems for Boot/OS drive and also in some of the systems for the Data drive (larger Data drive systems like 6TB are HD).
      I ALWAYS have a spinning HD in the system for an OS Clone and a Robocopy Mirror for every Data drive. I don't trust anything.
      Then the data is also backed up to a NAS that is 32TB for storage only, and to external USB hard drives on each computer, and the most important data is copied to the cloud.

  • @mattg8294
    @mattg8294 8 месяцев назад

    But you probably need 25gig ethernet in order to use all the speed.

  • @stephens3153
    @stephens3153 8 месяцев назад

    One thing I have to bring up is the 32GB of ram on a cpu that only supports 16GB. When the specs on a cpu state what memory it can handle that is because of the size of the registers, they cannot address more than that amount. Yes, the bios will see the full amount but if you try to use more that what the cpu can handle, it either will not use it or will crash.

  • @Kie-7077
    @Kie-7077 9 месяцев назад

    Couldn't you just build a PC with an APU and a PCI raid card for a lot less?

  • @elcuboderubik
    @elcuboderubik Год назад

    👍

  • @NonyaDamnbusiness
    @NonyaDamnbusiness Год назад +1

    ASUSTOR NAS issues:
    1) For some odd reason, restarting/upgrading a running docker container will result in the ports assigned to that container just being inaccessible until you restart Docker. This has been an issues for YEARS for me on my LOCKERSTOR4. I've even hand-upgraded the docker version to the latest one and it still doesn't resolve the issue. I now run my Docker containers split between a hand-built UNRAID micro-server and Proxmox running on a Lenovo Tiny PC and never have that issue with those.
    2) ASUSTOR app store apps are always behind the latest versions and usually for up to a year. I have to hand-upgrade the Plex and ZeroTier apps on my ASUSTOR4.
    3) Whatever you do, do NOT enable to "remotely access from anywhere" app on any LOCKERSTOR4 device or you will eventually get hacked. It's already happened once to a lot of LOCKERSTOR4 owners and is probably due to ASUS never really updating the software packages on these things for up to a year. Use ZeroTier/Tailscale/Wireguard instead to safely and securely remotely access your LOCKERSTOR device.

  • @perkunast9680
    @perkunast9680 6 месяцев назад

    They use fast expensive storage with use a cheep CPU and no way to fit a graphics card. The graphic card is a must for fast transcoding. so a fail

  • @diuran1919
    @diuran1919 Год назад

    Weak CPU ( already done test long time a go with other NAS), no acceleration in Linux or Windows. For me, disqualification from the start. THis device is very good concept but need new ver with much stronger CPU and acceleration in way for any OS

    • @daveg4417
      @daveg4417 Год назад

      I agree that the processors in the Asustor units are under-powered. My Synology is way under-powered too. For what there is for current processor technology, they could do better.

  • @TeraQuad
    @TeraQuad 5 месяцев назад

    .....I have that same voice.

  • @choppergirl
    @choppergirl 9 месяцев назад

    Yeah, this guy is living in fantasy land.
    All our NAS's are still built out of... IDE and SCSI platter drives.
    Yeah, I said it. IDE. Ribbon cables. That's the reality.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  9 месяцев назад

      Congrats?

  • @4500MHz_Jay
    @4500MHz_Jay Год назад

    Still a little pricey not including the drives

  • @Pr0toc01
    @Pr0toc01 7 месяцев назад

    Fully NVMe flash storage, and it doesnt come with 10Gb NIC? Fastest way to get someone who actually knows what they are looking at to lose interest.
    No 10Gb. No PCIE expansion to add a 10Gb NIC, or GPU for media transcoding. Underwhelming CPU making it less than ideal for running VMs (which would be fine if you were just using it for storage, but the lack of 10Gb networking creates bottle necks for using it as a storage pool for a CPU monster machine thats running VMs but storing the virtual drives elsewhere)
    NVMe throughput is 20Gb/s
    So 2.5Gb networking leaves 7/8 of your drive performance on the table.
    bonding the 2 2.5Gb ports, giving you 5Gb networking still leaves 3/4 of the drive performance on the table.
    So even using 10Gb Networking youre leaving a HALF of your drive performance on the table.
    Using 25Gb networking, you would actually be utilizing your MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE drives.
    Sata 3 has a max throughput of 6Gb/s which in reality is more like 4.8Gb/s
    So using MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE Drives, Sata SSDs instead of NVMe, youll still have more drive performance then the base 2.5Gb networking provided.
    Bonding them for 5Gb networking would use them efficently.
    There are other parameters at play, like protocol and signaling overhead, IOPS used for virtual machines etc etc, but with a wimpy CPU on board your not going to be doing anything VM heavy on this box.
    This is literally a product designed to do nothing but separate you from your money. Its 100% not worth it.
    This is like advertising concreate running shoes plastered in fancy graphics, bright colors and wrapped in marketing telling you it will make you run faster. People who succumb to the hype might buy them, but people who know what they are doing are going to point and laugh.
    dont fall for the hype. this thing is not worth it.
    They spent extra money to make it look "cool". If it did what they said it did, they wouldnt have to make it look cool to sell it. If it ran NVMe flash raid for that price with proper networking, you wouldnt be able to keep them on the shelf.

  • @ShortStoryInspiration
    @ShortStoryInspiration 9 месяцев назад +1

    no 10gbe no party

  • @joshua_lee732
    @joshua_lee732 Год назад

    Ugg I hate how Asus handles btrfs.

    • @daveg4417
      @daveg4417 Год назад +1

      Can you explain why? I would like to know. I have been looking at getting a 4-Bay Lockerstor.

  • @kokizzu
    @kokizzu 11 месяцев назад

    XD storing anime

  • @grzegorzmajewski591
    @grzegorzmajewski591 11 месяцев назад

    Wpienia mnie że tylko produkują dla Graczy a dla Business i Organizacji prawie nic.

  • @adityarathore9235
    @adityarathore9235 9 месяцев назад

    No 10Gig no deal basically useless for vm and docker with weak celeron processors 4 core. Its better to build a ryzen 9 machine

  • @TazzSmk
    @TazzSmk Год назад

    such device makes zero sense to me,
    single NVME SSD can comfortably sustain 10Gbe throughput, yet this device has no 10Gbe ports, and no PCIe expansion slot to add even faster fiber networking to serve iSCSI for VMs hosted on other machine, yet frankly the 12 model has only one 10Gbe port so no redundancy there sadly,
    cpu is weak and RAM upgrade options are limited, so it's not really suitable for hosting lots of VMs either,
    only 2 NICs in total makes it very limiting for being used as networking component (DNS, router, Unifi, PiHole etc...),
    price is alright, slightly cheaper than Synology DS923+ and with 2TB nvme prices dropping, it could serve for most people (with potentially better lifespan than mechanical spinning HDDs), IF it had faster network connectivity, we'll see what next generation FlashStor ASUS comes up with....

  • @demetriuscassidy3702
    @demetriuscassidy3702 Год назад

    Stopped when I heard Raid instead of ZFS. Not even rack mountable…

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Год назад +1

      Yeah I mean not everyone wants ZFS or rack mountable lol

  • @NonyaDamnbusiness
    @NonyaDamnbusiness Год назад

    And then there's the ASUS implementation of phpvirtualbox...
    1) It's not the latest version. Then again, none of the ASUSTOR apps are their latest versions, be prepared to manually update a lot.
    2) None of the VMs will restart automatically on reboot unless you SSH into the server and manually configure them to autostart - and in what order and at what times so they don't all try to start at once - via the command line. Google is your friend here.

  • @zyghom
    @zyghom Год назад

    just the case: Price: $493.28 - thank you but NO

  • @jj-icejoe6642
    @jj-icejoe6642 10 месяцев назад

    So expensive

  • @djKenpLan09
    @djKenpLan09 Год назад +1

    First! Thanks for keep sharing!

  • @ASUSTOR_YT
    @ASUSTOR_YT Год назад

    It's not a cube. I'm sorry.

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Год назад

      I forgive you bby 😘

  • @spinkey4842
    @spinkey4842 Год назад

    anime??? quit lyin, we all know it's called hentai

  • @phillipmartinez583
    @phillipmartinez583 Год назад

    Obviously PS4 inspired, not PS2. do you even do research for these "Videos"?

    • @RaidOwl
      @RaidOwl  Год назад

      Only people get shots on target in 4 consecutive games are allowed to comment

  • @frisbeeking7002
    @frisbeeking7002 11 месяцев назад

    I like the humane act, but next time find a way to clean after them or just don't do it. you must clean the mess you caused, it will bring many problems to other people in the area, including more insects and more diseases.