@@theTechNotice That’s good to know. I’m not sure if you’re aware but Sonnet Technologies manufacturers a really great Thunderbolt Dock that has two (2) NVME SSD slots with 40gbps bandwidth plus some more USB-C ports for Mac and Windows machines. It’s great and has the same speed as those single-drive enclosures you reviewed in your “Storage Guide for Mac” video which I absolutely loved!
This feels kind of misleading. Yes you can get 96 TB of SSD storage in this NAS but the cost is going to be almost $11,000. so comparing it to Apple is not really in line with the title.
@@nikolarajkovic3558 you can't carry with you ... the power consumption is like 10x ... running it off the laptop will suck up all the juice in like 1hr LOL
@RunForPeace-hk1cu it’s been 3 months, so I don't remember fully, but isn't this a NAS? You don't carry a nas with you. And you don't attach it to a computer directly. You connect it to your network, and then you connect it to any devices you need. You can access the nas anywhere you have internet as long as you set up a vpn on your network and set up port forwarding.
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@@theTechNotice I can grab a CM3588 NAS kit for under $200 bucks and a 3d printed case for it is like $15. That has quad core, NPU, 16GB of RAM, 64GB EMMC, 4x PCIE 3.0x1, HDMI in and out, and a 2.5g NIC. If you can match or beat those specs by a bit, I'd be willing to go up to $300-350, considering the warranty plus fit and finish of an injection molded case.
@@chrism6880It’s kind of the other way around? Residential users are the only ones with their personal data at stake. Large Enterprises are just risking other people’s data, and their own revenue.
I have to say this is the best instructional on setting up a NAS I have seen. Better than the branded NAS systems I even own. I would suggest if one could do a episode on all things on setting up, trouble shooting NAS systems. Really great stuff.
I would never use parities on nand. I use raid 0 and I do backups in SSD backup enclosures. Huge performance and saving resources. And it’s always important to consider the type of data you backup. For private usage or even for some business cases ssd enclosure is the way to go but in some business cases I go for tape enclosures or a combo splitting long and short term backups. Anyways great video.
At 22:46 , the internal SSD of a first gen MBA M1 has already 2.5 GByte/s. In that box you put in NVME SSD having 4 GByte/s or even more and slow it down with that bottle neck 10 Gbits network interface. That is NOT a replacement for the internal storage. ICY Box has inexpensive boxes having Thunderbolt4/USB4 interfaces, building external storage with them is a competing external storage extension. As slow backup devices, a RAID5 storage makes sense. Using RAID5, I recommend to set it up with at least one hot spare disk and not only by the mandatory parity disk. For that, you can use directly RAID6, makes administration and handling much easier 😅.
You should take a look at the CM3588 NAS Kit for something more budget friendly. You can get that for Less than $200, and slap it in a $20 3d printed case.
ServeTheHome did a review and found that "on average, each drive here has roughly the bandwidth equivalent of a PCIe Gen2 x1 lane" due to the pcie mux switches employed in this configuration or roughly 500MB/s which is TERRIBLE in terms of performance. pcie4x4 hard drives should be in the 7gb/s range.
I am planning to buy this and thanks a lot for this video. I had already selected some random M.2 SSDs but fortunately for me I found out from the NAS site that they are incompatible so I had to replace with the compatible one. I have one question: Is it possible to use this NAS with only one SSD to start with? Ideally one 2GB SSD?
BTRFS would have probably been a better choice of file system. BTRFS is a modern copy-on-write file system that supports bit healing, snapshots, and other features.
The issue with these systems is that you can never saturate the LAN port. Just one SSD does over 4.5GB in read which equals 45Gb. You can better opt with a solution with cheap standard 2.5" SSDs like a NAS or external enclosure. 4 SSDs in RAID-5 equal max 23TB in net storage.
The issue is, SATA SSDs provide lower random IO. It is true that the sequential performance of NVMe SSDs is limited by the architecture of the NAS, but the random performance of NVMe SSDs is not bottlenecked and much higher.
This is an average machine that doesn't draw too many watts. The SFF is the main selling point but it runs incredibly hot up to 80C on the cpu if some mods are not made to add fans. Currently Running ZFS on this machine and only Read and write about 100Mb/s
Very interesting. We still have an older custom-built RAID-6 server using hi-end spinning drives and 60 TB. It is reliable and only had 2 drive failures in 8 years. But it is a pain with sharing on the network. It uses one Mac as the gateway for any other users to connect. One attractive thing originally was connecting with Thunderbolt 2 for extra speed, but the optical cables proved to be very flaky and very sensitive to heat and if you looked at the cables wrong, it would disconnect. If that gateway Mac needs a reboot, everyone using the server needs to save and log off until that Mac is back up. It also needs special drivers and other issues that make it a pain. It does have 2-drive redundancy and are hot-swapable which is nice. Just have to use the exact same type of drive and if you use larger drives, I guess it's hard wired into not seeing the extra storage. How reliable, long-term, are current SSDs? Would this be a good option to replace my current mostly-custom server?
Nice! 1. Is there any real advantage in upgrading the RAM if you stay with Asus OS? 2. Should I replace the M.2 fan with something quieter and/or more powerful? 3. Or are maybe good coolers for the sticks a better idea?
looks nice, however that is something I rather have standing up, and with the weird shape of the box, just sucks. So it looks more as a part for a DIY project, take the electronics out, 3d print a different case, put some serious heatsinks and fans.
The 10G NIC means it is not much faster than a single SSD. If you just want "one very high capacity SSD" which you can share on the network, then this is fine. Assuming the Mac is running each SSD at full speed, it will be twice as fast, at least and I presume Mac's can still share their disks. You could plug in multiple SSD's as USB devices and share them. Just as fast for the network, much faster for the local device.
Wow!!! Incredible. I appreciate the tech you open up for us. I was surprised the speed was a little lower than I thought it would be over a 10G LAN... but 500 to 700 MB/s is still useful, plus the point you made that it's a fast NAS with redundancy. You could have configured RAID 10, which delivers the write speed of RAID 0 but is backed up with RAID 1 mirroring. Of course, that's 50% of available storage because of the mirror backup redundancy. Love your channel, you just get down to the nuts and bolts of the tech without the fanfare. I think, if you try RAID 10, you might experience faster writes... perhaps even hitting 1 GB/s?
11:00 I'll respectfully disagree on "Obtain IP Address Automatically", especially if you're planning to use your NAS as a media server. If the router ever decides to give it a different IP, you'll now have to reconfigure any device that needs to connect via IP with the new one. If you have a static one for the NAS, you know what the IP is at any given time.
Thank you for this. Few questions. If we are using all 12 slots, we should do RAID 6 correct? Also can you use of the drives/slots to be the time machine backup location for my Mac Studio?
Don't fall for it, unless you have a pretty fast network and you just want storage. The price is good, but the thermals, the lmited functionality, the slow CPU, the lack of proper software like the one you find in a Synology or Qnap, the lack of true hotswap etc. But if you just want shared storage it seems to be an interesting platform. You will get no benefit from the gen 4 ssd, so if you can get 3 generation it will be better (not only for price but heat).
If it was a DAS via TB4 then it would be ok but still way slower than the internal storage in a Mac. Since its only connectivity is 10gb, you don't get to take advantage of NVME speed.
I have 3 85” tvs and none are LG. I know it’s a decent brand but after this ad showed me more about LG than I ever know. I will certainly look at LG for my next update. This is a good product video.
its still out the range for most people and price to cost ratio isnt quite there yet..platter drives are still king for home use nas unfortuanately. dont get me wrong id love to have a form factor like that with 96 tb
If this came with a Thunderbolt 3/4 interface, then I would be impressed. There's no way I'm going to be able to push multi-4k or 6k digital cinema streams through that for editing. For my needs, I'm still stuck with spinning disks.
this looks like it would be great for high speed video editing and fast data access stuff as long as the network is fully 10 gigabit or at lest 2.5 not so much for long term storage.
Looks like a good product. Thanks for the video. Can we configure it so that we can access this private cloud from the web? Like how we are using Dropbox?
What file system is this using? ZFS? BTRFS? EXT4? If it’s proprietary is useless for any commercial operation, and unwise for individuals because if your NAS goes down you have to go to the manufacturer to retrieve your data (often accompanied by high retrieval fees). Why this information is important is that different file systems have different degrees of data rot. So knowing how the system works helps guide the user on proper maintenance procedures to minimize loss.
13:40 changing the port numbers does NOT improve security. Any hacker who is determined can run a quick nmap scan and find the changed ports. Not only that but it also inconveniences the user
Nice analysis; the read speeds, I dare say, are at the limit of the 10GBe network. I wonder if there is a way to connect via a faster medium such as Thunderbolt or USB. Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question; I am not a pro at this :)
this only seems like a small niche of uses. Unless someone has a ton of money to blow on at least 6 - 8 TB drives, it still feels like sure video editing off that or using it as a temp solution of work flow until it is archived off to a bigger nas.
- Windows Copy is slow, use maybe TeraCopy - That 10Gb LAN port is good, but this needs USB 40mbps or TB or PCI slot for them to use as attached storage to actually use better the speed potential off those SSDs. As someone said, being a very niche product, the price is way too much for what it is (motherboard with cheap Intel cpu and 6 or 12 m2 slots and some ports) Let's hope someone else comes up with more refined and cheaper version.
you could do this .. OR you could get google fiber 8GB/s service, buy a much cheaper and more expandable surplus enterprise server with sata drives and ram cache running truenas. Then you can have NAS from anywhere for multiple people. Mine has no problem saturating 10gig. This would be much more impressive if it had a local thunderbolt/usb4 direct connection in addition to smb/10gig
heatsinks added? when the platform cripples the potential performance to about 1000 mbits only? faster than sata but slower than cheapest nvme.... hopefully high capacity 16 TB m.2 will be affordable and out soon, the next gen of this device might be interesting if they solve the bottleneck
The major part i think he missed is it is a NAS and redundancy is the name of the game then. Yeah if you go with JBOD you can get 96TB of storage but when you are going with that much storage having redundancy is probably good so cut 1/3 out with RAID 6. In that the ASUSTOR Flashstor 6 is better due to redundant network ports. Yes a little slower but for video editing and back ups the change from 2500Mbps to 10Gbps isn't that big mostly due to the CPU in the NAS is the bottleneck. It is also NOT Cloud storage it is local network storage. Why the air quotes when saying "Operating System"? It is the operating system for the NAS as it custom for the NAS like most other NAS companies it comes with a custom OS.
Does 10GB Ethernet actually do you much good, when read speeds are 1 GB? The 6-slot version might be the more sensible option for us noobs that only need 48 TB.
I am confused, maybe I didn't understand correctly. You mentioned you can have a maximum of 12 slots. I didn't hear it is possible to use 8TB SSDs. Isn't 12 x4= 48? Why did you say 96TB?
Looks nice, but honestly, I don’t get it, why that thing has no redundant Thunderbolt 4/USB4 interface having 40 Gbps. Then it would be a serious competitor to Promise‘s Pegasus, which are good but expensive, because there is no competition. Well, ICY has afaik some competing products our mow, but I must check them first.
Great video thank you. Will the SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal Solid state hard drive work with this from Amazon? I looked on the Asustor site but I can’t tell based on the Nas Series and Remark on each of the supported SSD. I am unable to find that information
Everything was great till my nas disappear from the Asustor Control Center after to finish the configuration. What should I do now to see it again and having a chance to map a folder on the disk root?
Thanks for sharing! But I think I’m missing something. In their web they claim 1181MB/s Read and 1027MB/s Write. Isn’t this very low numbers ? Shouldn’t be at least triple ??
It ain't archival.. Is it hot swappable for the drives and do you get a choice of Hamming codes??? Needs a 100Gb/s port/cable.. oh, ya, I collect LB406S drives (and the like type)..
if this had a 1GB NIC for management and a second 10GBit nic this would be the perfect device. Also, the RAM MAX is a bit low at 16GB. Either way, great price point. Does the RAID control method support TRIM?
If it's $2,400 for 8TB in a MAC and $2,200 for 24TB in the ASUSTOR, how is that 6X more storage? I might be missing something here or my math isn't very good.
lol I just saw you video and I already had this wishlisted for Christmas on amazon after doing research a couple of months ago, flash SSD storage is king compared to old mechanical SATA hard drives. Thank you for you review and insight, now for sure I am going to buy it. This will be my media server (I have not decided jellyfin or plex yet). I would be curious what software you would use for a media server, mabey a next video.
Good video, thank you. I'm having a problem trying to restore a plex database in my qnap nas. I can't seem to get access to the directory I need to restore it in. Do you know how to do this?
FYI forgot to mention that the MP44 SSD has VERY high TBW Spec As well!
TBW comparable to the more expensive Kingston KC3000 which you said was very good for video editing?
24TB= more than 6× 7.5TB? 😅
Maybe a little overlay edit in the intro of the vid... 😅
OH, even more than Kingston, a lot more :)
@@theTechNotice That’s good to know. I’m not sure if you’re aware but Sonnet Technologies manufacturers a really great Thunderbolt Dock that has two (2) NVME SSD slots with 40gbps bandwidth plus some more USB-C ports for Mac and Windows machines. It’s great and has the same speed as those single-drive enclosures you reviewed in your “Storage Guide for Mac” video which I absolutely loved!
Raid use space lot too I believe.
$800 for a file server is insane. Wait until there are competition on the market and this thing should not be more than $400.
yep, i should be around $500
obviously you've never used one 10gbe, and have no idea what you're talking about
@@ShortStoryInspiration Obviously you don't understand the concept of competition.
@@jakesmith527810gb ports aren’t cheap…
He is initially aiming this at apple users though, it isn't meant to be a smart purchase.
This feels kind of misleading. Yes you can get 96 TB of SSD storage in this NAS but the cost is going to be almost $11,000. so comparing it to Apple is not really in line with the title.
Unless he changed the title, then the title is fine. You get 4 times as much storage for $200 less + future expansion available.
Clickbait is how they get people to watch. Anyway, I'm not watching.
Comments saying you're not watching count as engagement too so no worries!
@@nikolarajkovic3558 you can't carry with you ... the power consumption is like 10x ... running it off the laptop will suck up all the juice in like 1hr LOL
@RunForPeace-hk1cu it’s been 3 months, so I don't remember fully, but isn't this a NAS? You don't carry a nas with you. And you don't attach it to a computer directly. You connect it to your network, and then you connect it to any devices you need. You can access the nas anywhere you have internet as long as you set up a vpn on your network and set up port forwarding.
Hey everyone! Marco here! We're always happy to see when our prducts get reviewed and thank you to Tech Notice for taking a look at our products! We always love honest feedback so if you have any questions, comments, praise or criticism, feel free to let me know by replying to me!
Thanks again!
Y'all should make a budget one that regular people can afford
What's the budget?
@@theTechNotice I can grab a CM3588 NAS kit for under $200 bucks and a 3d printed case for it is like $15. That has quad core, NPU, 16GB of RAM, 64GB EMMC, 4x PCIE 3.0x1, HDMI in and out, and a 2.5g NIC. If you can match or beat those specs by a bit, I'd be willing to go up to $300-350, considering the warranty plus fit and finish of an injection molded case.
Any idea when the new version will be available?
So, this is technically an ASUS shill channel right?
Don't forget that RAID is not a backup.
Indeed, yet many people still use parity instead of just striping + proper backup.
Its not but think about it that way 99% of peopl dont back up anything at all so even just a raid is better then nothing
Very little data is worth backing up for a residential user
@@chrism6880It’s kind of the other way around? Residential users are the only ones with their personal data at stake. Large Enterprises are just risking other people’s data, and their own revenue.
@@chrism6880 what a dumb comment
People with small businesses or family photos exist
Paying $1000+ for 5TB is wild.
Titling a video thumbnail "96Tb (affordable)" and not building it is even wilder.....
LOL exactly what I was thinking. 96tb….. “Here is 6TB, well 5 cause raid 5. 😅 Thought I was about to see a contender for my r740 with 85tb ..
especially when you only needed one more TB.
I use MacBooks, exclusively. But, I don't think Apple got the memo: storage is a commodity, with pricing; ding-dongs.
Would NEVER pay for their storage.
I have to say this is the best instructional on setting up a NAS I have seen. Better than the branded NAS systems I even own. I would suggest if one could do a episode on all things on setting up, trouble shooting NAS systems. Really great stuff.
I saw that a new version is coming to market soon with two 10g rj45. I am holding out for that
I would never use parities on nand. I use raid 0 and I do backups in SSD backup enclosures. Huge performance and saving resources. And it’s always important to consider the type of data you backup. For private usage or even for some business cases ssd enclosure is the way to go but in some business cases I go for tape enclosures or a combo splitting long and short term backups. Anyways great video.
At 22:46 , the internal SSD of a first gen MBA M1 has already 2.5 GByte/s. In that box you put in NVME SSD having 4 GByte/s or even more and slow it down with that bottle neck 10 Gbits network interface. That is NOT a replacement for the internal storage. ICY Box has inexpensive boxes having Thunderbolt4/USB4 interfaces, building external storage with them is a competing external storage extension. As slow backup devices, a RAID5 storage makes sense. Using RAID5, I recommend to set it up with at least one hot spare disk and not only by the mandatory parity disk. For that, you can use directly RAID6, makes administration and handling much easier 😅.
I’m buying this beast for my birthday! I’ve been looking for something just like this! Saved!
I'm gonna wait
This guy ain't gonna stop dropping banger intros!
thats why i dont subscribe...
oh wow now thats cool! Thanks for the videos! i enjoy watching them Keep up the amazing work!!
Anyone who wants quiet and large and fast storage knows that there’s very little out there that cover all three externally. This will do that nicely.
Banger keyboard! what's the brand and model?
Intro King💯🔥.... Really Good Offer.
Glad you like it
@@theTechNoticeKeep them coming 💯
You should take a look at the CM3588 NAS Kit for something more budget friendly. You can get that for Less than $200, and slap it in a $20 3d printed case.
ServeTheHome did a review and found that "on average, each drive here has roughly the bandwidth equivalent of a PCIe Gen2 x1 lane" due to the pcie mux switches employed in this configuration or roughly 500MB/s which is TERRIBLE in terms of performance. pcie4x4 hard drives should be in the 7gb/s range.
I am planning to buy this and thanks a lot for this video. I had already selected some random M.2 SSDs but fortunately for me I found out from the NAS site that they are incompatible so I had to replace with the compatible one. I have one question: Is it possible to use this NAS with only one SSD to start with? Ideally one 2GB SSD?
BTRFS would have probably been a better choice of file system. BTRFS is a modern copy-on-write file system that supports bit healing, snapshots, and other features.
Thanks so much for the walk-thru. Very precis and exactly what I needed. This is something that I am going to migrate to in the near future.
I am sure we are just waiting for the V2 of this unit. Looks great and all that but I will wait till we see the the V2 tests results
The issue with these systems is that you can never saturate the LAN port. Just one SSD does over 4.5GB in read which equals 45Gb. You can better opt with a solution with cheap standard 2.5" SSDs like a NAS or external enclosure. 4 SSDs in RAID-5 equal max 23TB in net storage.
The issue is, SATA SSDs provide lower random IO. It is true that the sequential performance of NVMe SSDs is limited by the architecture of the NAS, but the random performance of NVMe SSDs is not bottlenecked and much higher.
This is an average machine that doesn't draw too many watts. The SFF is the main selling point but it runs incredibly hot up to 80C on the cpu if some mods are not made to add fans. Currently Running ZFS on this machine and only Read and write about 100Mb/s
Very interesting. We still have an older custom-built RAID-6 server using hi-end spinning drives and 60 TB. It is reliable and only had 2 drive failures in 8 years. But it is a pain with sharing on the network. It uses one Mac as the gateway for any other users to connect. One attractive thing originally was connecting with Thunderbolt 2 for extra speed, but the optical cables proved to be very flaky and very sensitive to heat and if you looked at the cables wrong, it would disconnect. If that gateway Mac needs a reboot, everyone using the server needs to save and log off until that Mac is back up. It also needs special drivers and other issues that make it a pain. It does have 2-drive redundancy and are hot-swapable which is nice. Just have to use the exact same type of drive and if you use larger drives, I guess it's hard wired into not seeing the extra storage. How reliable, long-term, are current SSDs? Would this be a good option to replace my current mostly-custom server?
Nice!
1. Is there any real advantage in upgrading the RAM if you stay with Asus OS?
2. Should I replace the M.2 fan with something quieter and/or more powerful?
3. Or are maybe good coolers for the sticks a better idea?
Thank you for the review, well done. I was kinda expecting better performance and a lower price.
looks nice, however that is something I rather have standing up, and with the weird shape of the box, just sucks. So it looks more as a part for a DIY project, take the electronics out, 3d print a different case, put some serious heatsinks and fans.
Don’t need speed for backups, just massive space
The 10G NIC means it is not much faster than a single SSD. If you just want "one very high capacity SSD" which you can share on the network, then this is fine. Assuming the Mac is running each SSD at full speed, it will be twice as fast, at least and I presume Mac's can still share their disks. You could plug in multiple SSD's as USB devices and share them. Just as fast for the network, much faster for the local device.
Wow!!! Incredible. I appreciate the tech you open up for us. I was surprised the speed was a little lower than I thought it would be over a 10G LAN... but 500 to 700 MB/s is still useful, plus the point you made that it's a fast NAS with redundancy. You could have configured RAID 10, which delivers the write speed of RAID 0 but is backed up with RAID 1 mirroring. Of course, that's 50% of available storage because of the mirror backup redundancy. Love your channel, you just get down to the nuts and bolts of the tech without the fanfare. I think, if you try RAID 10, you might experience faster writes... perhaps even hitting 1 GB/s?
@@KozureOkami888 Well, yes, now that you mention it! Good point!
11:00 I'll respectfully disagree on "Obtain IP Address Automatically", especially if you're planning to use your NAS as a media server. If the router ever decides to give it a different IP, you'll now have to reconfigure any device that needs to connect via IP with the new one. If you have a static one for the NAS, you know what the IP is at any given time.
Great vid.
One wonders how the value proposition stacks up if we factor in durability n reliability 🧐🧐
Nice to see the BtrFS option available there! Does it also support BtrFS compression (and other features) ?
Very nice video as always! ❤ Not so easy to install on the software side, no thunderbolt or usb-c for my macbook😅
Thank you for this. Few questions. If we are using all 12 slots, we should do RAID 6 correct? Also can you use of the drives/slots to be the time machine backup location for my Mac Studio?
Teamgroup MP44 4TB is my go to NVMe for all my setups
Is this a media player as well? Android based? Like a shield? Dont see why else they would of included fiber audio out
Great vid! Can this be connected directly to the computer instead of using the Ethernet and Wifi?
What keyboard are you using . I like the typing sound which one are they ?
Don't fall for it, unless you have a pretty fast network and you just want storage. The price is good, but the thermals, the lmited functionality, the slow CPU, the lack of proper software like the one you find in a Synology or Qnap, the lack of true hotswap etc. But if you just want shared storage it seems to be an interesting platform. You will get no benefit from the gen 4 ssd, so if you can get 3 generation it will be better (not only for price but heat).
If it was a DAS via TB4 then it would be ok but still way slower than the internal storage in a Mac. Since its only connectivity is 10gb, you don't get to take advantage of NVME speed.
I have 3 85” tvs and none are LG. I know it’s a decent brand but after this ad showed me more about LG than I ever know. I will certainly look at LG for my next update. This is a good product video.
I wish they would a thunderbolt version of this! I would buy it in a heartbeat!
its still out the range for most people and price to cost ratio isnt quite there yet..platter drives are still king for home use nas unfortuanately. dont get me wrong id love to have a form factor like that with 96 tb
Excellent video as had my eye on one these for a while. Just waiting for 8tb drives to come down in price a bit more as need a lot of storage
If this came with a Thunderbolt 3/4 interface, then I would be impressed. There's no way I'm going to be able to push multi-4k or 6k digital cinema streams through that for editing. For my needs, I'm still stuck with spinning disks.
this looks like it would be great for high speed video editing and fast data access stuff as long as the network is fully 10 gigabit or at lest 2.5
not so much for long term storage.
My xbox,ps, and laptop will want this
Looks like a good product. Thanks for the video. Can we configure it so that we can access this private cloud from the web? Like how we are using Dropbox?
Whats that beautiful\strange keyboard on your desk?
it’s Mac not MAC btw, it’s not an acronym it’s short for Macintosh.
What file system is this using? ZFS? BTRFS? EXT4? If it’s proprietary is useless for any commercial operation, and unwise for individuals because if your NAS goes down you have to go to the manufacturer to retrieve your data (often accompanied by high retrieval fees). Why this information is important is that different file systems have different degrees of data rot. So knowing how the system works helps guide the user on proper maintenance procedures to minimize loss.
ext4 and Btrfs
13:40 changing the port numbers does NOT improve security. Any hacker who is determined can run a quick nmap scan and find the changed ports. Not only that but it also inconveniences the user
I need some of that for all my digital library. But m2 are really expensive xD. Imagine having the money to fill that with 96 tb
Add this to an old PC/Laptop/Raspberry Pi and run Owncloud (making sure that everything is backed up)
Nice analysis; the read speeds, I dare say, are at the limit of the 10GBe network. I wonder if there is a way to connect via a faster medium such as Thunderbolt or USB. Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question; I am not a pro at this :)
I agree…the lack of at least one of these two ports is amazing.
I want a system that can use multiple thunderbolt ports on the Mac’s and have transfer speed of about 28000MBps
Am i asking for too much
this only seems like a small niche of uses. Unless someone has a ton of money to blow on at least 6 - 8 TB drives, it still feels like sure video editing off that or using it as a temp solution of work flow until it is archived off to a bigger nas.
You can do mostly what this does with a conventional NAS with a couple of M.2 SSDs as cache and 10G ethernet port.
I USE MP33 SSD 1TB (PCIE GEN-3)
AND IT'S PERFORMANCE IS NICE
Fantastic walkthru. Thank you for doing this at the level you did and explaining the basics the way you did. Sub'd and Liked.
Imagine paying this much for a portable drive with no thunderbolt.
- Windows Copy is slow, use maybe TeraCopy
- That 10Gb LAN port is good, but this needs USB 40mbps or TB or PCI slot for them to use as attached storage to actually use better the speed potential off those SSDs.
As someone said, being a very niche product, the price is way too much for what it is (motherboard with cheap Intel cpu and 6 or 12 m2 slots and some ports)
Let's hope someone else comes up with more refined and cheaper version.
you could do this .. OR you could get google fiber 8GB/s service, buy a much cheaper and more expandable surplus enterprise server with sata drives and ram cache running truenas. Then you can have NAS from anywhere for multiple people. Mine has no problem saturating 10gig.
This would be much more impressive if it had a local thunderbolt/usb4 direct connection in addition to smb/10gig
heatsinks added? when the platform cripples the potential performance to about 1000 mbits only? faster than sata but slower than cheapest nvme.... hopefully high capacity 16 TB m.2 will be affordable and out soon, the next gen of this device might be interesting if they solve the bottleneck
Thank you my friend.
External NVME SSDs over thunderbolt are much cheaper and have much higher performance (as you confirmed as well).
You can build your NAS with a N100 CPU for $200 (board+RAM including 10Gbe)
Interesting, but definitely waiting to see the Gen 2 FS6812X before deciding...
The major part i think he missed is it is a NAS and redundancy is the name of the game then. Yeah if you go with JBOD you can get 96TB of storage but when you are going with that much storage having redundancy is probably good so cut 1/3 out with RAID 6. In that the ASUSTOR Flashstor 6 is better due to redundant network ports. Yes a little slower but for video editing and back ups the change from 2500Mbps to 10Gbps isn't that big mostly due to the CPU in the NAS is the bottleneck.
It is also NOT Cloud storage it is local network storage. Why the air quotes when saying "Operating System"? It is the operating system for the NAS as it custom for the NAS like most other NAS companies it comes with a custom OS.
Does 10GB Ethernet actually do you much good, when read speeds are 1 GB? The 6-slot version might be the more sensible option for us noobs that only need 48 TB.
There some trouble with default windows local network speed. Somehow it's feel limited. With 3rd party ftp you can get a lot more transfer speed.
Ssd drives have limited writes no? Wouldn’t it be better to stick with Sata hard drive based SAn?
pretty underwhelming. Can probably reach the same speeds with SATA SSD's and save a boatload over having to buy NVME.
Yeah without a faster interface like Thunderbolt, this is a dud. But with Thunderbolt this could be amazing.
Flashstor 12 PRO is perfect for me, except for the Intel CPU, it is too weak, and AMD CPU doesn't have integrated graphics... Any solutions?
What is the keyboard you are using in this video?
I am confused, maybe I didn't understand correctly. You mentioned you can have a maximum of 12 slots. I didn't hear it is possible to use 8TB SSDs. Isn't 12 x4= 48? Why did you say 96TB?
or film makes who want to do feature film in full raw 4k and especially 8k movies then this is plausible!
Looks nice, but honestly, I don’t get it, why that thing has no redundant Thunderbolt 4/USB4 interface having 40 Gbps. Then it would be a serious competitor to Promise‘s Pegasus, which are good but expensive, because there is no competition. Well, ICY has afaik some competing products our mow, but I must check them first.
Great video thank you. Will the SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal Solid state hard drive work with this from Amazon? I looked on the Asustor site but I can’t tell based on the Nas Series and Remark on each of the supported SSD. I am unable to find that information
Can you start with 2 drives, and add later more to same volume ?
Everything was great till
my nas disappear from the Asustor Control Center after to finish the configuration. What should I do now to see it again and having a chance to map a folder on the disk root?
What's the keyboard that you're using in this video?
Can you do lower end cpu reviews like i3 and r3 ?
What keyboard are you using??
big fan of LG mobiles
the display in LG G8
is crazyy
This processor has... 8 lanes of pci 3? I'd love to see actuall performance tests.
Can this be used with Direct Storage.. I don't want a storage device that requires internet to use
Dude amazing video keep it up
This might be a good investment now that flash is an appreciating asset.
Expensive af for what it is.
I'd rather get something like the nasync DXP480t plus where you can install dockers on it too.
Thanks for this informative video
Thanks for sharing! But I think I’m missing something. In their web they claim 1181MB/s Read and 1027MB/s Write. Isn’t this very low numbers ?
Shouldn’t be at least triple ??
The 10GbE port is where we benchmark our NAS.
It ain't archival.. Is it hot swappable for the drives and do you get a choice of Hamming codes??? Needs a 100Gb/s port/cable.. oh, ya, I collect LB406S drives (and the like type)..
if this had a 1GB NIC for management and a second 10GBit nic this would be the perfect device. Also, the RAM MAX is a bit low at 16GB. Either way, great price point. Does the RAID control method support TRIM?
It works with up to 64 GB Ram, even if not officially supported
@@uweburger I think the TRIM question is probably more important for drive life than how much RAM is available.
If it's $2,400 for 8TB in a MAC and $2,200 for 24TB in the ASUSTOR, how is that 6X more storage? I might be missing something here or my math isn't very good.
lol I just saw you video and I already had this wishlisted for Christmas on amazon after doing research a couple of months ago, flash SSD storage is king compared to old mechanical SATA hard drives. Thank you for you review and insight, now for sure I am going to buy it. This will be my media server (I have not decided jellyfin or plex yet). I would be curious what software you would use for a media server, mabey a next video.
Wait for the Second Version End of the year
You can arrange 512 GB memory cards and solder to 100 TB.
Good video, thank you. I'm having a problem trying to restore a plex database in my qnap nas. I can't seem to get access to the directory I need to restore it in. Do you know how to do this?
Who stores on SSD? Not me. Only HDD. 😊
Hi, is this the flashtor gen 2? If not I would love a comparison with the previous gen, and ugreen alternative...
Gen1. Gen2 is not released yet. Will send one when we have it!