@@theTechNotice That’s good to know. I’m not sure if you’re aware but Sonnet Technologies manufacturers a really great Thunderbolt Dock that has two (2) NVME SSD slots with 40gbps bandwidth plus some more USB-C ports for Mac and Windows machines. It’s great and has the same speed as those single-drive enclosures you reviewed in your “Storage Guide for Mac” video which I absolutely loved!
So chris, did you buy the asustor nvme box? Now, 5 months later, we can buy a 4tb nvme from $250 to 320$ for the asus 990 pro. Seems like a better use of funds, depends on how much you value backup redundancy. Gary
I have to say this is the best instructional on setting up a NAS I have seen. Better than the branded NAS systems I even own. I would suggest if one could do a episode on all things on setting up, trouble shooting NAS systems. Really great stuff.
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@@theTechNotice I can grab a CM3588 NAS kit for under $200 bucks and a 3d printed case for it is like $15. That has quad core, NPU, 16GB of RAM, 64GB EMMC, 4x PCIE 3.0x1, HDMI in and out, and a 2.5g NIC. If you can match or beat those specs by a bit, I'd be willing to go up to $300-350, considering the warranty plus fit and finish of an injection molded case.
Thank you for this. Few questions. If we are using all 12 slots, we should do RAID 6 correct? Also can you use of the drives/slots to be the time machine backup location for my Mac Studio?
This feels kind of misleading. Yes you can get 96 TB of SSD storage in this NAS but the cost is going to be almost $11,000. so comparing it to Apple is not really in line with the title.
@@nikolarajkovic3558 you can't carry with you ... the power consumption is like 10x ... running it off the laptop will suck up all the juice in like 1hr LOL
@RunForPeace-hk1cu it’s been 3 months, so I don't remember fully, but isn't this a NAS? You don't carry a nas with you. And you don't attach it to a computer directly. You connect it to your network, and then you connect it to any devices you need. You can access the nas anywhere you have internet as long as you set up a vpn on your network and set up port forwarding.
I am planning to buy this and thanks a lot for this video. I had already selected some random M.2 SSDs but fortunately for me I found out from the NAS site that they are incompatible so I had to replace with the compatible one. I have one question: Is it possible to use this NAS with only one SSD to start with? Ideally one 2GB SSD?
Looks like a good product. Thanks for the video. Can we configure it so that we can access this private cloud from the web? Like how we are using Dropbox?
@@chrism6880It’s kind of the other way around? Residential users are the only ones with their personal data at stake. Large Enterprises are just risking other people’s data, and their own revenue.
At 22:46 , the internal SSD of a first gen MBA M1 has already 2.5 GByte/s. In that box you put in NVME SSD having 4 GByte/s or even more and slow it down with that bottle neck 10 Gbits network interface. That is NOT a replacement for the internal storage. ICY Box has inexpensive boxes having Thunderbolt4/USB4 interfaces, building external storage with them is a competing external storage extension. As slow backup devices, a RAID5 storage makes sense. Using RAID5, I recommend to set it up with at least one hot spare disk and not only by the mandatory parity disk. For that, you can use directly RAID6, makes administration and handling much easier 😅.
Nice! 1. Is there any real advantage in upgrading the RAM if you stay with Asus OS? 2. Should I replace the M.2 fan with something quieter and/or more powerful? 3. Or are maybe good coolers for the sticks a better idea?
You should take a look at the CM3588 NAS Kit for something more budget friendly. You can get that for Less than $200, and slap it in a $20 3d printed case.
I would never use parities on nand. I use raid 0 and I do backups in SSD backup enclosures. Huge performance and saving resources. And it’s always important to consider the type of data you backup. For private usage or even for some business cases ssd enclosure is the way to go but in some business cases I go for tape enclosures or a combo splitting long and short term backups. Anyways great video.
could it be possible that either on the motherboard or the network switch / router, you were plugged into not a 10G but a 5G port? because 5Gbit would come out pretty much exactly to that 625MB/s Or perhaps the network controller splits the 10G bandwidth on the NAS side so it can support two connections simultaneously at 5G?
Nice analysis; the read speeds, I dare say, are at the limit of the 10GBe network. I wonder if there is a way to connect via a faster medium such as Thunderbolt or USB. Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question; I am not a pro at this :)
Good video, thank you. I'm having a problem trying to restore a plex database in my qnap nas. I can't seem to get access to the directory I need to restore it in. Do you know how to do this?
Everything was great till my nas disappear from the Asustor Control Center after to finish the configuration. What should I do now to see it again and having a chance to map a folder on the disk root?
Great video thank you. Will the SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal Solid state hard drive work with this from Amazon? I looked on the Asustor site but I can’t tell based on the Nas Series and Remark on each of the supported SSD. I am unable to find that information
Thanks for sharing! But I think I’m missing something. In their web they claim 1181MB/s Read and 1027MB/s Write. Isn’t this very low numbers ? Shouldn’t be at least triple ??
It ain't archival.. Is it hot swappable for the drives and do you get a choice of Hamming codes??? Needs a 100Gb/s port/cable.. oh, ya, I collect LB406S drives (and the like type)..
gonna need a follow up video after say a year of use .. to see if things are holding up in this beast. If so- it looks sweet. If not - well I could see a lot going wrong with this thing
I don't know why but my connection don't go more than 300mbps. I already did changes in the cables, bla bla bla.... any idea of what i'm doing wrong? I'm using a sabrent 10gbps to thunderbolt 4... thanks!
Wow!!! Incredible. I appreciate the tech you open up for us. I was surprised the speed was a little lower than I thought it would be over a 10G LAN... but 500 to 700 MB/s is still useful, plus the point you made that it's a fast NAS with redundancy. You could have configured RAID 10, which delivers the write speed of RAID 0 but is backed up with RAID 1 mirroring. Of course, that's 50% of available storage because of the mirror backup redundancy. Love your channel, you just get down to the nuts and bolts of the tech without the fanfare. I think, if you try RAID 10, you might experience faster writes... perhaps even hitting 1 GB/s?
11:00 I'll respectfully disagree on "Obtain IP Address Automatically", especially if you're planning to use your NAS as a media server. If the router ever decides to give it a different IP, you'll now have to reconfigure any device that needs to connect via IP with the new one. If you have a static one for the NAS, you know what the IP is at any given time.
Thanks for the video! I'm considering building my next storage PC (movies, tv shows,etc.) I'm running low on space on my 160GB RAID 5 PC. I only need a little more space for the next 5 years or so as my data use as decreased dramatically over the past several years. Any thoughts on a RAID 6 SSD affordable solution? I definitely want at least 10gbit ethernet.
Hi, I would like to ask how much heat this NAS is generating? I would like to install this system into air gap in suspended drywall ceiling, but there is no air flow, so I am not sure if its gonna work without frying the system. Whats your take on NAS solutions, which are stored in tight spaces?
Hi. No background whatsoever on this, but would the system be gradually upgradable storage wise? Like, can I buy just 2 2TB drives for now then add another 2 2TB later without having to redo the settings/setup??? And do the storage drives have to be the same sizes or not??? THANKS. I pay for GoogleDrive, OneDrive, and for Apple's iCloud so my monthly fees together over a few months would actually cover the cost for this system.
heatsinks added? when the platform cripples the potential performance to about 1000 mbits only? faster than sata but slower than cheapest nvme.... hopefully high capacity 16 TB m.2 will be affordable and out soon, the next gen of this device might be interesting if they solve the bottleneck
I am confused, maybe I didn't understand correctly. You mentioned you can have a maximum of 12 slots. I didn't hear it is possible to use 8TB SSDs. Isn't 12 x4= 48? Why did you say 96TB?
FYI forgot to mention that the MP44 SSD has VERY high TBW Spec As well!
TBW comparable to the more expensive Kingston KC3000 which you said was very good for video editing?
24TB= more than 6× 7.5TB? 😅
Maybe a little overlay edit in the intro of the vid... 😅
OH, even more than Kingston, a lot more :)
@@theTechNotice That’s good to know. I’m not sure if you’re aware but Sonnet Technologies manufacturers a really great Thunderbolt Dock that has two (2) NVME SSD slots with 40gbps bandwidth plus some more USB-C ports for Mac and Windows machines. It’s great and has the same speed as those single-drive enclosures you reviewed in your “Storage Guide for Mac” video which I absolutely loved!
Raid use space lot too I believe.
I saw that a new version is coming to market soon with two 10g rj45. I am holding out for that
This guy ain't gonna stop dropping banger intros!
thats why i dont subscribe...
I’m buying this beast for my birthday! I’ve been looking for something just like this! Saved!
I'm gonna wait
So chris, did you buy the asustor nvme box? Now, 5 months later, we can buy a 4tb nvme from $250 to 320$ for the asus 990 pro. Seems like a better use of funds, depends on how much you value backup redundancy. Gary
I have to say this is the best instructional on setting up a NAS I have seen. Better than the branded NAS systems I even own. I would suggest if one could do a episode on all things on setting up, trouble shooting NAS systems. Really great stuff.
$800 for a file server is insane. Wait until there are competition on the market and this thing should not be more than $400.
yep, i should be around $500
obviously you've never used one 10gbe, and have no idea what you're talking about
@@ShortStoryInspiration Obviously you don't understand the concept of competition.
@@jakesmith527810gb ports aren’t cheap…
He is initially aiming this at apple users though, it isn't meant to be a smart purchase.
oh wow now thats cool! Thanks for the videos! i enjoy watching them Keep up the amazing work!!
Intro King💯🔥.... Really Good Offer.
Glad you like it
@@theTechNoticeKeep them coming 💯
Thanks so much for the walk-thru. Very precis and exactly what I needed. This is something that I am going to migrate to in the near future.
Great video! Excellent narrative, in-depth and concise. I learned a lot about the product. Big thumbs up.
Great vid! Can this be connected directly to the computer instead of using the Ethernet and Wifi?
What keyboard are you using . I like the typing sound which one are they ?
Fantastic walkthru. Thank you for doing this at the level you did and explaining the basics the way you did. Sub'd and Liked.
Excellent video as had my eye on one these for a while. Just waiting for 8tb drives to come down in price a bit more as need a lot of storage
Great vid.
One wonders how the value proposition stacks up if we factor in durability n reliability 🧐🧐
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Thanks again!
Y'all should make a budget one that regular people can afford
What's the budget?
@@theTechNotice I can grab a CM3588 NAS kit for under $200 bucks and a 3d printed case for it is like $15. That has quad core, NPU, 16GB of RAM, 64GB EMMC, 4x PCIE 3.0x1, HDMI in and out, and a 2.5g NIC. If you can match or beat those specs by a bit, I'd be willing to go up to $300-350, considering the warranty plus fit and finish of an injection molded case.
Any idea when the new version will be available?
So, this is technically an ASUS shill channel right?
Thank you for this. Few questions. If we are using all 12 slots, we should do RAID 6 correct? Also can you use of the drives/slots to be the time machine backup location for my Mac Studio?
Banger keyboard! what's the brand and model?
This feels kind of misleading. Yes you can get 96 TB of SSD storage in this NAS but the cost is going to be almost $11,000. so comparing it to Apple is not really in line with the title.
Unless he changed the title, then the title is fine. You get 4 times as much storage for $200 less + future expansion available.
Clickbait is how they get people to watch. Anyway, I'm not watching.
Comments saying you're not watching count as engagement too so no worries!
@@nikolarajkovic3558 you can't carry with you ... the power consumption is like 10x ... running it off the laptop will suck up all the juice in like 1hr LOL
@RunForPeace-hk1cu it’s been 3 months, so I don't remember fully, but isn't this a NAS? You don't carry a nas with you. And you don't attach it to a computer directly. You connect it to your network, and then you connect it to any devices you need. You can access the nas anywhere you have internet as long as you set up a vpn on your network and set up port forwarding.
I am planning to buy this and thanks a lot for this video. I had already selected some random M.2 SSDs but fortunately for me I found out from the NAS site that they are incompatible so I had to replace with the compatible one. I have one question: Is it possible to use this NAS with only one SSD to start with? Ideally one 2GB SSD?
Curious where is the follow up vidoe on you using this? I see the qnas follow up but not one for this
Nice to see the BtrFS option available there! Does it also support BtrFS compression (and other features) ?
Looks like a good product. Thanks for the video. Can we configure it so that we can access this private cloud from the web? Like how we are using Dropbox?
Don't forget that RAID is not a backup.
Indeed, yet many people still use parity instead of just striping + proper backup.
Its not but think about it that way 99% of peopl dont back up anything at all so even just a raid is better then nothing
Very little data is worth backing up for a residential user
@@chrism6880It’s kind of the other way around? Residential users are the only ones with their personal data at stake. Large Enterprises are just risking other people’s data, and their own revenue.
@@chrism6880 what a dumb comment
People with small businesses or family photos exist
At 22:46 , the internal SSD of a first gen MBA M1 has already 2.5 GByte/s. In that box you put in NVME SSD having 4 GByte/s or even more and slow it down with that bottle neck 10 Gbits network interface. That is NOT a replacement for the internal storage. ICY Box has inexpensive boxes having Thunderbolt4/USB4 interfaces, building external storage with them is a competing external storage extension. As slow backup devices, a RAID5 storage makes sense. Using RAID5, I recommend to set it up with at least one hot spare disk and not only by the mandatory parity disk. For that, you can use directly RAID6, makes administration and handling much easier 😅.
Nice!
1. Is there any real advantage in upgrading the RAM if you stay with Asus OS?
2. Should I replace the M.2 fan with something quieter and/or more powerful?
3. Or are maybe good coolers for the sticks a better idea?
Very nice video as always! ❤ Not so easy to install on the software side, no thunderbolt or usb-c for my macbook😅
How reliable are internal SSDs like these?
Whats that beautiful\strange keyboard on your desk?
Ssd drives have limited writes no? Wouldn’t it be better to stick with Sata hard drive based SAn?
Hi bro may I know what is your keyboard in this video?
Thank you my friend.
But if you add the NVMe flashes can you keep this on 24/7 or is it going to burn down the NVMe drives?
You should take a look at the CM3588 NAS Kit for something more budget friendly. You can get that for Less than $200, and slap it in a $20 3d printed case.
Thanks for this informative video
Can you start with 2 drives, and add later more to same volume ?
So what is the process for backing up the files on this NAS?
What's the keyboard that you're using in this video?
I am sure we are just waiting for the V2 of this unit. Looks great and all that but I will wait till we see the the V2 tests results
Is this a media player as well? Android based? Like a shield? Dont see why else they would of included fiber audio out
What is the keyboard you are using in this video?
I would never use parities on nand. I use raid 0 and I do backups in SSD backup enclosures. Huge performance and saving resources. And it’s always important to consider the type of data you backup. For private usage or even for some business cases ssd enclosure is the way to go but in some business cases I go for tape enclosures or a combo splitting long and short term backups. Anyways great video.
could it be possible that either on the motherboard or the network switch / router, you were plugged into not a 10G but a 5G port? because 5Gbit would come out pretty much exactly to that 625MB/s
Or perhaps the network controller splits the 10G bandwidth on the NAS side so it can support two connections simultaneously at 5G?
Nice analysis; the read speeds, I dare say, are at the limit of the 10GBe network. I wonder if there is a way to connect via a faster medium such as Thunderbolt or USB. Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question; I am not a pro at this :)
I agree…the lack of at least one of these two ports is amazing.
I want a system that can use multiple thunderbolt ports on the Mac’s and have transfer speed of about 28000MBps
Am i asking for too much
What is the brand name of the keyboard you have in this video
Thank you for the review, well done. I was kinda expecting better performance and a lower price.
Does it support dedicated hot spares?
Good video, thank you. I'm having a problem trying to restore a plex database in my qnap nas. I can't seem to get access to the directory I need to restore it in. Do you know how to do this?
How would I connect one of these to a thunderbolt 4 port?
Everything was great till
my nas disappear from the Asustor Control Center after to finish the configuration. What should I do now to see it again and having a chance to map a folder on the disk root?
Great video thank you. Will the SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal Solid state hard drive work with this from Amazon? I looked on the Asustor site but I can’t tell based on the Nas Series and Remark on each of the supported SSD. I am unable to find that information
What do i have to pair with this to get hardware transcoding
What camera do you use for the video?
my question is will the software also you to RAID the system and back it up to another one for a copy
Anyone who wants quiet and large and fast storage knows that there’s very little out there that cover all three externally. This will do that nicely.
Can you do lower end cpu reviews like i3 and r3 ?
Do these NV drives need additional heat considerations?
Explained in the video :)
Is it good for video editing
Hi, is this the flashtor gen 2? If not I would love a comparison with the previous gen, and ugreen alternative...
Gen1. Gen2 is not released yet. Will send one when we have it!
Is it possible to use this with Linux operating systems?
how about your keyboard? Where do I find it?
Can this be used with Direct Storage.. I don't want a storage device that requires internet to use
Dude amazing video keep it up
What keyboard are you using??
Thanks for sharing! But I think I’m missing something. In their web they claim 1181MB/s Read and 1027MB/s Write. Isn’t this very low numbers ?
Shouldn’t be at least triple ??
The 10GbE port is where we benchmark our NAS.
Can i use this on my ps5 and pc ?
My xbox,ps, and laptop will want this
Bro what is this keyboard called you using here
can that be used like a nass for plex
It ain't archival.. Is it hot swappable for the drives and do you get a choice of Hamming codes??? Needs a 100Gb/s port/cable.. oh, ya, I collect LB406S drives (and the like type)..
@theTechNotice
What keyboard is that? I wanna buy it.
WHAT KEYBOATD IS THAT?
But whatabout security? Is the memory error free or can it garantee my data storage for years to come
Hi, is it possible to work Lightroom catalogs in folders directly in that nas system? Cheers!
Yes!
@@theTechNotice and remotely? Is it possible to open a Lightroom catalog as well?
gonna need a follow up video after say a year of use .. to see if things are holding up in this beast. If so- it looks sweet. If not - well I could see a lot going wrong with this thing
There some trouble with default windows local network speed. Somehow it's feel limited. With 3rd party ftp you can get a lot more transfer speed.
I don't know why but my connection don't go more than 300mbps. I already did changes in the cables, bla bla bla.... any idea of what i'm doing wrong? I'm using a sabrent 10gbps to thunderbolt 4... thanks!
do we need to download Intel Arc Control app when using intel igpu quick sync ?
No.
Hey, could someone explain how to set this up to access it remotely ?
Wow!!! Incredible. I appreciate the tech you open up for us. I was surprised the speed was a little lower than I thought it would be over a 10G LAN... but 500 to 700 MB/s is still useful, plus the point you made that it's a fast NAS with redundancy. You could have configured RAID 10, which delivers the write speed of RAID 0 but is backed up with RAID 1 mirroring. Of course, that's 50% of available storage because of the mirror backup redundancy. Love your channel, you just get down to the nuts and bolts of the tech without the fanfare. I think, if you try RAID 10, you might experience faster writes... perhaps even hitting 1 GB/s?
@@KozureOkami888 Well, yes, now that you mention it! Good point!
Umm, would this work for game drive? install game and play said game?
I wish they would a thunderbolt version of this! I would buy it in a heartbeat!
Can this be used as a Plex media server?
11:00 I'll respectfully disagree on "Obtain IP Address Automatically", especially if you're planning to use your NAS as a media server. If the router ever decides to give it a different IP, you'll now have to reconfigure any device that needs to connect via IP with the new one. If you have a static one for the NAS, you know what the IP is at any given time.
what happens if the board on that thing goes out
Thanks for the video! I'm considering building my next storage PC (movies, tv shows,etc.) I'm running low on space on my 160GB RAID 5 PC. I only need a little more space for the next 5 years or so as my data use as decreased dramatically over the past several years. Any thoughts on a RAID 6 SSD affordable solution? I definitely want at least 10gbit ethernet.
You just have to pay up there is no way around that if you want a 1 botton setup solution .
Why ssd? What you are describing would be perfect for Hdd, and way more affordable.
Flashstor 12 PRO is perfect for me, except for the Intel CPU, it is too weak, and AMD CPU doesn't have integrated graphics... Any solutions?
Did you always have the terra?
?
@@theTechNotice The silver Fractal Terra in the back, when did you get that? Was wondering if you made a video about it.
Why no thunderbolt 4?
Hi, I would like to ask how much heat this NAS is generating?
I would like to install this system into air gap in suspended drywall ceiling, but there is no air flow, so I am not sure if its gonna work without frying the system.
Whats your take on NAS solutions, which are stored in tight spaces?
I wouldn't do it, needs airflow... :)
Imagine paying this much for a portable drive with no thunderbolt.
Is this designed to run 24/7?
Interesting, but definitely waiting to see the Gen 2 FS6812X before deciding...
Hi. No background whatsoever on this, but would the system be gradually upgradable storage wise? Like, can I buy just 2 2TB drives for now then add another 2 2TB later without having to redo the settings/setup??? And do the storage drives have to be the same sizes or not??? THANKS. I pay for GoogleDrive, OneDrive, and for Apple's iCloud so my monthly fees together over a few months would actually cover the cost for this system.
Hi! Yes. The system is gradually upgradeable in exactly the way you described. Storage drives need to be the same size.
@@ASUSTOR_YT Thank you so much for the information!
heatsinks added? when the platform cripples the potential performance to about 1000 mbits only? faster than sata but slower than cheapest nvme.... hopefully high capacity 16 TB m.2 will be affordable and out soon, the next gen of this device might be interesting if they solve the bottleneck
I am confused, maybe I didn't understand correctly. You mentioned you can have a maximum of 12 slots. I didn't hear it is possible to use 8TB SSDs. Isn't 12 x4= 48? Why did you say 96TB?
I wonder if the USB 4/5 ports are compatible to Thunderbolt 3/4 If not this device is not recommendable for MacOS or iOS.
We added USB4 to our Gen2 products.
Is that device is a External hard drive????
Can you copy one NVME drive to another inside the Asustor?
You could. If they are separate volumes. Why not?
Can you access it over internet?
Yes