I remember you carrying that laptop in 3rd or 4th grade. Omg Earthlink and Netscape lol. I remember them well. We had Earthlink for a while. So many memories. I sure missed your videos when you were away. Brings me back to the time you explored systems when you were a kid. I still remember the laptop shell you bought and turned into a working laptop for your sister. It always makes me happy to see you get into all the systems you find. I’m so proud of your knowledge and how you revive vintage systems. I’m glad you found a few great vintage computers at VCF.
And Mike delivers again! How the hell do you manage to captivate me that I NEVER and I mean I NEVER skip any of your videos, just watch them fully engaged and interested, and I learn a lot out from them!
Watching You doing surgery on these old but gold systems while You are explaining what exactly you're doing is very relaxing! Keep on doing what is definitely your purpose in this life! 😊
With those Gateways you could also pull the external bay cage and reinstall it by 90 degrees if you wanted a desktop config. I poked around a few of those things way back in my tech support days.
That Aptiva is probably early enough in the production run to still have some PS/1 similarities and even software. That model started essentially as a renaming of the PS/1 line. That Gateway, back in the day, we used to call the "Baby Gateway" because they had finally moved on from the ridiculously tall Full Tower AT cases.
Haha! I have a full tower modded to house my Amiga 4000 with a Video Toaster set up... and generally use the top for either the mouse or an LCD monitor (for the zz9000 HDMI output/BNC from the Toaster.) It is a table height, flat surface to use...
Old computers that would have been precious memories to someone.... 🥰 I enjoyed watching the video. 😊 👍 thank you I hope the mitsubishi power supply is fixed soon. 😉
23:21 That IBM AudioStation software looks an awful lot like Media Rack by Willow Pond, which was bundled with HP Pavilions in the late 90's. Its a fun program to play around with.
Pretty sure my grandpa had one of those Mitsubishi's when I was like 6yo. He taught me dos and lotus, and I taught myself Crystal Caves, Rogue and Prince of Persia 😂
RUclips recommended your videos to me since ive been hyperfixating on hardware ever since taking a course, and i love how you go on detail, and the retro hardware
5:25 ba dum TSSSSSS! 9:20 whoa I had a really bad feeling about this too! 9:26 yowch! 11:00 oh man I could hear the terrible sound even on the crappy phone loudspeaker! Can’t wait for the sequel to the power supply saga.
Ha, I cringed as soon as you mentioned the sound card with a modem. That was the first thing I replaced on the first Wintel box my family had. It was a Packard Bell, and that card never would work with both at the same time. You either had sound or modem. Definitely one of the reasons they were called Plug N Pray.
A suggestion is to take a picture with your phone before you disassemble the inside of the laptop. That laptop looks pretty clean (keyboard and screen)
Being that it's a Pentium 1, that RAM will either be 168-pin EDO (unlikely) or PC66, not PC100/133. The tell is that it's a single-sided module. those old machines don't do double-sided very well. A lot of those quad speed drives in some cases have deteriorating foam. The foam is just for sound dampening and can be removed without replacement. Once you get a pinout, it *might* be possible to make a 3D printed bracket for the fan and power connections and then shove a meanwell supply in. all depends.
Great Laptop, you hunted there. While you are waiting for parts, any plans to come back to the damaged motherboards from older vids with corrosion and damaged parts?
There was a note on the back of the laptop that said the default voltage is set to 230v on the PSU and you did show the switch after you tore it down but its hard to see the voltage. If someone else in the states plugged 120v in and turned it on set to 230v they may have blown that regulator or other parts. Be sure you check the switch before powering it up. On the third system the whole 5 1/4 bay may be able to be turned sideways so the drives are upright in desktop mode.
As a heads up, just because a capacitor is a Rubycon, Nichicon or the like doesn't mean it can't fail. Just this year alone I've probably swapped well over 100 Japanese caps alone, even some that weren't looking bad but once I swapped them out any issues I was having got fixed. Some even tested fine on my (admittedly crappy) LCR meter but once I changed them out I've had dead computers come back to life. It's worth completely recapping anything you intend on keeping working for any length of time. I've had computers working for maybe like 10 total hours after I got them only to start working/intermittently working until I fully capped usually just the PSU. Even the small 1uf electrolytics can cause issues, at this point I've made it a point to replace all the electrolytics in any computer I want working even if it's working already.
Watching your work brings back the excitement of pulling out boards, slotting in cards rebuilding pc etc. I used to spend hours doing this in my 20s I am now in my 50’s and the modern stuff isn’t as exciting, as it’s now just something you never take apart and recycle. Keep the videos coming please! Great work and a lot of fun.
I was thinking the same thing honestly. i imagine what it was doing wasn't a whole lot different. some worm screw or whatever hopping off its end over and over.
Damn Small Linux is a handy Live CD distro for vintage hardware. It's very out of date (Kernel 2.4.x, 2008) but it supports some pretty old hardware. It can boot to a GUI desktop on a 486 with 16MiB RAM, though it's happier with 24 or more. A boot floppy image to accompany the CD is available as well for systems that don't natively boot from CD. Sound, video, and network are usually autodetected without any trouble.
I recall a model of Packard Bell (early Pentium) which had a modem/ sound card combo. A guy at work had one and it came with answering machine software.
Yup. It was an Aztec soundcard/modem combo. I had one in my Packard Bell when I was a kid. I convinced my parents to use the answering machine software. I thought it was super fancy at the time. That was unheard of at the time.
That Gateway is a definitely a late model Pentium P54C, its got the later black chip style used on the MMX onwards and it has DIMM memory, although the MMX didn't reach the shelves until Jan 97..
Good video as usual mate, My Aptiva (that's also missing the front) also came with the same optical drive etc. The optical drive is a Mutsumi (they are identical to a Mutsumi 4x I have too) I've also been told by friends that the PSU in these IBMs is the week point. I'm likely going to recap it to be cautious. Also, regarding it having similarities to the PS1 - I believe the chassis is the same. If you look behind the front bezel there is a fan mount which is useless to the aptiva (the front bezel blocks it) where a PS1 has a fan In that very position.
The stick in the Gateway is an early PC-66, PC-100 didn't came until 1998 with the introduction of the famous 440BX and then with the 815, PC-133 became the standard until DDR struck like a meteorite in 2002 Love your vids, quite calm & informative, hope by the next you can have that Mitsubishi laptop going
I love these old computers ! I have a preference for the #2, that IBM is very well designed and built. Meanwhile, I remember my first "serious" PC was a Pentium 166 MMX, so I'm a bit encline to love that third PC 🥰 Oh, and btw, your channel is like ASMR =)
Wow the Mitsubishi laptop keyboard looks like GMK keycaps from the profile and typeface. You’d never see that now since they pretty much just do custom group buy orders now, but that’s really neat. I love seeing the computers of more unusual manufacturers of hardware.
speaking of battery i found out this week that my CMOS battery is Under my GPU.... I made some BIOS changes that caused my PC to not boot and had to reset Cmos... that was a whole thing..
I swear for a solid 3 seconds I thought there was something NSFW and you were censoring the mother board, but no it was just foggy looking opaque plastic shield
I wish I could go to VCF and get to meet you. :) You seem like a nice guy I have lots of respect for. I don’t like to travel alone on big airports tho, so for events like that I’m a little sorry my bf don’t like old tech. But at home it’s nice to have different hobbies and not all the same. How’s yours?
We had a very similar Gateway back in the day for our family PC before my Dad got fed up and decreed the PC was his only. Can't blame him, my brother and I argued over who got to use it. We both ended up wtih hand me down packard bells that really sucked.
I only just discovered your channel and I enjoy it very much. I remember some of these machines from the 90s but I was more in the Amiga camp at the time. I look forward to your next restoration videos!
29:48 when you put this in tower orientation, I had to double take, because the bottom looked like it was missing! I have only seen a few of these in real life - made a video of one many years ago. But both of those had a front panel that matched the way the computer opened if that makes sense.
I really enjoy your productions. I still have that exact Aptiva I purchased from Radio Shack back in the day. It came with OS/2 Warp and windows dual boot. It still works and I fire it up a few times a year. I enjoy OS/2 and the CDE look of the desktop. I haven't booted it to Windows in years.
That Gateway has a BIOS update. One of Intel's early ATX boards too. Despite having the 430VX chipset with a USB capable PIIX3 southbridge, the ports were omitted since they were buggy/broken. The pads are still there though. The reason the Aptiva has PS/1 software is because it basically is a renamed PS/1. The entire line went to the Aptiva branding in 1994.
Was surprised that the Mitsubishi only takes wall power, guess it's more of an LCD luggable than a true laptop on that front, hopefully you get it up and running soon. Oh lord if you get that M-Wave working you'll have to show us, the results from Cathode Ray Dude on his Eduquest 40 were abysmal and hilarious
Yassssssss fresh MikeTech. I didn't even know about the conventions - definitely going to think about planning a trip one year with my fellow tech nerds.
I remember you carrying that laptop in 3rd or 4th grade. Omg Earthlink and Netscape lol. I remember them well. We had Earthlink for a while. So many memories. I sure missed your videos when you were away. Brings me back to the time you explored systems when you were a kid. I still remember the laptop shell you bought and turned into a working laptop for your sister. It always makes me happy to see you get into all the systems you find. I’m so proud of your knowledge and how you revive vintage systems. I’m glad you found a few great vintage computers at VCF.
"De-bugged." Good one.
I didn't know if I should cringe or laugh so I chuckled uncomfortably 😂
@@rmcdudmk212 Mission accomplished. 🙂
This channel is getting bigger than Mike's biceps! 😍
"looks like the machine is already debugged..." *drops hat* I came for the hardware, I stayed for the dry humor.
And we got some kind of video to watch 😉
And Mike delivers again! How the hell do you manage to captivate me that I NEVER and I mean I NEVER skip any of your videos, just watch them fully engaged and interested, and I learn a lot out from them!
Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying them. 🙂
Mike, your dry humor kills me !! _Cache on a stick, it's a technical term!_
I've heard about other things on a stick... but they were mainly in the negative. 🙂
You were worried about the weight of that Mitsubishi, when you have those guns? 😅
If computers were still built like this, I wouldn't even need the gym!
Watching You doing surgery on these old but gold systems while You are explaining what exactly you're doing is very relaxing! Keep on doing what is definitely your purpose in this life! 😊
The way you talk about the different machines, you clearly have some love for them, nice work on the PSUs.
With those Gateways you could also pull the external bay cage and reinstall it by 90 degrees if you wanted a desktop config. I poked around a few of those things way back in my tech support days.
Great video, looking forward to the PSU/Laptop fix attempt
Love your way of presenting. calm and professional! Some cool find you did on VCF.
Finally! Another video to watch❤🎉
Your channel is growing fast!
That Aptiva is probably early enough in the production run to still have some PS/1 similarities and even software. That model started essentially as a renaming of the PS/1 line.
That Gateway, back in the day, we used to call the "Baby Gateway" because they had finally moved on from the ridiculously tall Full Tower AT cases.
It's just that I *like* those tall cases. They remind me of skyscrapers! :-)
@keithbrown7685 oh don't get me wrong, they were the right height to put a mouse pad on and use as a scrolling surface. Lol
Haha! I have a full tower modded to house my Amiga 4000 with a Video Toaster set up... and generally use the top for either the mouse or an LCD monitor (for the zz9000 HDMI output/BNC from the Toaster.) It is a table height, flat surface to use...
@@geoffreyreuther5260 I don't know this, but I have heard that if you put a P4 into them, then you'd have a space heater *and* a mousepad! 🙂
@@keithbrown7685 features that BMW can only dream of!
"Pull Down Door 10H3079
Pull Down Door (for 2144 SL- I) 42H0348"
Part Numbers that should fit that front door. Good luck!
Old computers that would have been precious memories to someone.... 🥰
I enjoyed watching the video. 😊 👍
thank you
I hope the mitsubishi power supply is fixed soon. 😉
Earthlink is definitely still around! They're active under Charter Communications these days.
All those caps need replaced in the PSU, the PF series, etc... they all leak, and thats what caused the damage.
Definitely. I don't trust any of them.
23:21 That IBM AudioStation software looks an awful lot like Media Rack by Willow Pond, which was bundled with HP Pavilions in the late 90's. Its a fun program to play around with.
Pretty sure my grandpa had one of those Mitsubishi's when I was like 6yo. He taught me dos and lotus, and I taught myself Crystal Caves, Rogue and Prince of Persia 😂
RUclips recommended your videos to me since ive been hyperfixating on hardware ever since taking a course, and i love how you go on detail, and the retro hardware
These videos are great man. Keep em coming.
5:25 ba dum TSSSSSS!
9:20 whoa I had a really bad feeling about this too!
9:26 yowch!
11:00 oh man I could hear the terrible sound even on the crappy phone loudspeaker!
Can’t wait for the sequel to the power supply saga.
Oh thank you for a new MikeTech video! I was starting to have withdrawals. 🤤
Ha, I cringed as soon as you mentioned the sound card with a modem. That was the first thing I replaced on the first Wintel box my family had. It was a Packard Bell, and that card never would work with both at the same time. You either had sound or modem. Definitely one of the reasons they were called Plug N Pray.
A suggestion is to take a picture with your phone before you disassemble the inside of the laptop. That laptop looks pretty clean (keyboard and screen)
Yup! That's a side benefit of recording these teardowns. I'm often going back to check my raw footage to see how something was put together.
Nice vid once again Mike, hopefully you have some luck with fixing up that Mitsubishi luggable!
Thanks!
Being that it's a Pentium 1, that RAM will either be 168-pin EDO (unlikely) or PC66, not PC100/133. The tell is that it's a single-sided module. those old machines don't do double-sided very well.
A lot of those quad speed drives in some cases have deteriorating foam. The foam is just for sound dampening and can be removed without replacement.
Once you get a pinout, it *might* be possible to make a 3D printed bracket for the fan and power connections and then shove a meanwell supply in. all depends.
Exceedingly handsome and interesting, both the computers and the host.
"COAST, it's a technical term!" Lol!
Great Laptop, you hunted there. While you are waiting for parts, any plans to come back to the damaged motherboards from older vids with corrosion and damaged parts?
I do. Finding it difficult to run multiple projects simultaneously though. I need to build more bench space!
Puppy Linux can boot on just about anything from the Windows 9x era
random comment to make the algorithm happy and to say thank you for the fun video
There was a note on the back of the laptop that said the default voltage is set to 230v on the PSU and you did show the switch after you tore it down but its hard to see the voltage. If someone else in the states plugged 120v in and turned it on set to 230v they may have blown that regulator or other parts. Be sure you check the switch before powering it up. On the third system the whole 5 1/4 bay may be able to be turned sideways so the drives are upright in desktop mode.
26:34 when you clean off a white case like that aptiva, i get to see all the dirty spots on my monitor
you make thing's look so easy when you fix theses computer's and you explain thing's so clear great work and thanks for your upload
Hip hip hooray for Mike the Tech
who doesn't merely try--
he guts and heals a tight machine
where no bugs need apply!
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They tied the power cord into a noose, that's awesome lol
Seeing a riser card in a "laptop" is peak early laptop
As a heads up, just because a capacitor is a Rubycon, Nichicon or the like doesn't mean it can't fail. Just this year alone I've probably swapped well over 100 Japanese caps alone, even some that weren't looking bad but once I swapped them out any issues I was having got fixed. Some even tested fine on my (admittedly crappy) LCR meter but once I changed them out I've had dead computers come back to life. It's worth completely recapping anything you intend on keeping working for any length of time. I've had computers working for maybe like 10 total hours after I got them only to start working/intermittently working until I fully capped usually just the PSU. Even the small 1uf electrolytics can cause issues, at this point I've made it a point to replace all the electrolytics in any computer I want working even if it's working already.
Watching your work brings back the excitement of pulling out boards, slotting in cards rebuilding pc etc. I used to spend hours doing this in my 20s I am now in my 50’s and the modern stuff isn’t as exciting, as it’s now just something you never take apart and recycle. Keep the videos coming please! Great work and a lot of fun.
Thanks! I feel the same way about modern systems. They’re just not very interesting to me.
the CD-ROM on the Aptiva is clicking like an Apple ][ e Floppy Drive on Boot.
I was thinking the same thing honestly. i imagine what it was doing wasn't a whole lot different. some worm screw or whatever hopping off its end over and over.
These vids are so damn cozy
Mike, I love your retro PC collection as well!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
Damn Small Linux is a handy Live CD distro for vintage hardware. It's very out of date (Kernel 2.4.x, 2008) but it supports some pretty old hardware. It can boot to a GUI desktop on a 486 with 16MiB RAM, though it's happier with 24 or more. A boot floppy image to accompany the CD is available as well for systems that don't natively boot from CD. Sound, video, and network are usually autodetected without any trouble.
I was almost in tears when they ended development of DSL. I remember loading the entire image into a ramdisk and it running crazy fast!
I believe that would be a voice modem. The sound to the motherboard is for the "voice" part of it
I recall a model of Packard Bell (early Pentium) which had a modem/ sound card combo. A guy at work had one and it came with answering machine software.
Yup. It was an Aztec soundcard/modem combo. I had one in my Packard Bell when I was a kid. I convinced my parents to use the answering machine software. I thought it was super fancy at the time. That was unheard of at the time.
I had that exact Gateway tower. P166, 16mb of ram, 2gig WD caviar, 17” CRT, 56k modem. That setup cost $2400 in 1996. I still have the hard drive.
"...it just makes a lot of noise and does nothing..."
memories of in-laws happening
That Gateway is a definitely a late model Pentium P54C, its got the later black chip style used on the MMX onwards and it has DIMM memory, although the MMX didn't reach the shelves until Jan 97..
I also noticed that there's no MMX on that PPGA. Didn't know these existed
It did surprise me that this chip lacked MMX.
@@deschoeeI recently obtained a Pentium 200, non-MMX in the same form. It surprised me too.
Good video as usual mate,
My Aptiva (that's also missing the front) also came with the same optical drive etc.
The optical drive is a Mutsumi (they are identical to a Mutsumi 4x I have too)
I've also been told by friends that the PSU in these IBMs is the week point. I'm likely going to recap it to be cautious.
Also, regarding it having similarities to the PS1 - I believe the chassis is the same. If you look behind the front bezel there is a fan mount which is useless to the aptiva (the front bezel blocks it) where a PS1 has a fan In that very position.
Thanks! Yeah seems like this machine was right in the middle of IBM's PS/1 to Aptiva transition.
@@miketech1024 100% - between yourself and Epictronics I've seen a few variants lately that definately make me believe that has played a part.
The stick in the Gateway is an early PC-66, PC-100 didn't came until 1998 with the introduction of the famous 440BX and then with the 815, PC-133 became the standard until DDR struck like a meteorite in 2002
Love your vids, quite calm & informative, hope by the next you can have that Mitsubishi laptop going
Thanks!
Was there PC-166 SDRAM? I knew up to PC-133. I imagine just a typo, unless i'm just totally unaware.
@@Aeduo Oh yes xD true the last one was PC-133
I love how well-made most of the older computers are, thanks for a nice video.
Some nice "new" machines to add to your collection. 👍
I love these old computers ! I have a preference for the #2, that IBM is very well designed and built. Meanwhile, I remember my first "serious" PC was a Pentium 166 MMX, so I'm a bit encline to love that third PC 🥰
Oh, and btw, your channel is like ASMR =)
i own a mitsubishi CX 400 P3 Desktop from the Apricot Line, sadly it's motherboard needs repairing
Wow the Mitsubishi laptop keyboard looks like GMK keycaps from the profile and typeface. You’d never see that now since they pretty much just do custom group buy orders now, but that’s really neat. I love seeing the computers of more unusual manufacturers of hardware.
Yay Mike is back! Best 30min of the week!
speaking of battery i found out this week that my CMOS battery is Under my GPU.... I made some BIOS changes that caused my PC to not boot and had to reset Cmos... that was a whole thing..
Интересный ноутбук. Никогда о таком не слышал.
That Aptiva CD-ROM drive sounds like an Apple II disk seek when they turned on.
That Mitsubishi laptop is pretty cool. I’ve always wanted to find a computer made by them.
clean that Shmoo
I swear for a solid 3 seconds I thought there was something NSFW and you were censoring the mother board, but no it was just foggy looking opaque plastic shield
25:30 I fully expected those magnets to go flying, lol. Neat trick
I wonder if on the Gateway machine the 5.25 drive cage could have been installed 90 degrees as well.
Great haul. Join us at VCF Southwest in 2024 and grow that collection!
I wish I could go to VCF and get to meet you. :) You seem like a nice guy I have lots of respect for. I don’t like to travel alone on big airports tho, so for events like that I’m a little sorry my bf don’t like old tech. But at home it’s nice to have different hobbies and not all the same. How’s yours?
That Lapcrusher thing was very well-built and clean!
Pozdrawiam . Ciekawy filmik .
No battery, and it weighs 15lbs, and it also comes with a power cable noose. 😂
ATX in 1996? Wow
Subbed when I saw the watch face, gotta support fam in the tech community, there’s not many of us haha.
I really wanted an Aptiva growing up in n the late 90s. I have no idea why lol. They used to sell them at Radio Shack in the mall.
how many audio cards have a built-in modem lol
that's a new one for me, Mike!
CACHE ON A STICK!!!!!
IT almost sounds like something edible, from that day at the fair! : )
@@keithbrown7685 Khlav khalash. No bowl, stick. Stick!
that power supply is a house fire 2.0
Sure hope my insurance company isn't watching...
Can you do some bios updates on systems , i love updating a system that has a dual bios.
do you have a link to the thermal pads you used on the cpu? thanks
already debugged - I am ashamed for you on that joke 😄
We had a very similar Gateway back in the day for our family PC before my Dad got fed up and decreed the PC was his only. Can't blame him, my brother and I argued over who got to use it. We both ended up wtih hand me down packard bells that really sucked.
There, look. See what fighting got you? 🙂
20:57 Very rare but there are some old BIOSes which do not output boot codes to the BUS.
Have you ever seen a bias that MikeTech couldn't get to cough up?? : )
Could just be IBM being weird.
Mike is the ultimate interrogator. He has ways of making them talk. And they all talk... in the end.
what's the problem with Varta brand in computer industry? Jus to know....
unobtainium LMAO
I will keep that one in my repertoire
Yay! He is back! I love your channel!
20:28, sounds like a cattle prod!
:D
I only just discovered your channel and I enjoy it very much. I remember some of these machines from the 90s but I was more in the Amiga camp at the time. I look forward to your next restoration videos!
yay cant wait for the VCF hual
29:48 when you put this in tower orientation, I had to double take, because the bottom looked like it was missing! I have only seen a few of these in real life - made a video of one many years ago. But both of those had a front panel that matched the way the computer opened if that makes sense.
I really enjoy your productions. I still have that exact Aptiva I purchased from Radio Shack back in the day. It came with OS/2 Warp and windows dual boot. It still works and I fire it up a few times a year. I enjoy OS/2 and the CDE look of the desktop. I haven't booted it to Windows in years.
That Gateway has a BIOS update. One of Intel's early ATX boards too. Despite having the 430VX chipset with a USB capable PIIX3 southbridge, the ports were omitted since they were buggy/broken. The pads are still there though.
The reason the Aptiva has PS/1 software is because it basically is a renamed PS/1. The entire line went to the Aptiva branding in 1994.
Was surprised that the Mitsubishi only takes wall power, guess it's more of an LCD luggable than a true laptop on that front, hopefully you get it up and running soon. Oh lord if you get that M-Wave working you'll have to show us, the results from Cathode Ray Dude on his Eduquest 40 were abysmal and hilarious
in 97 I bought an Aptiva 2144 a-12 damn near identical only difference is the cpu was 133mhz.
Thanks for the Video. I have the P5 133 model of that Gateway mini tower Still runs like a champ.
i could see myself using that laptop on a TGV from Paris to Marseille, it would also draw allot of attention.
I'm so tempted to use it in a public place like a coffee shop to see what people say. 😂
@@miketech1024 that's an introvert's nightmare 😂
Yassssssss fresh MikeTech. I didn't even know about the conventions - definitely going to think about planning a trip one year with my fellow tech nerds.
you know one of these days one of those PSU's are gonna explode
Hopefully I catch it on-camera!