Yeah nothing wrong with being a beginner or a student. Being able to shoot next to a professional photographer was my favorite part of my photography course because it shows the skillset you are working for, it's extremely motivating.
If Sara Dietschy can have 60 minutes of recording, 150 minutes of live streaming, 9 to 12 times the sound quality of old channels, 24 hours of highway and 30 to 32 times the overall bandwidth quality of Dog, then Maha, Sophia, and Jessica can only have 24 minutes of recording, 45 minutes of live streaming, 5 to 8 times the sound quality of old channels, 14 to 15 minutes of highway and 2 to 4 times the overall bandwidth quality of Dog.
Would've been nice to compare notes at the end, grabbing the best set of photo's from both photographers and discuss why they made certain descisions and what they were going for both technically and aesthetically.
I didn’t write this comment as a judgement to the student. Both had great pictures, i’m just saying, with the experience Jessica has, she could help new people getting into these things.
Maha has schooling and Jess has experience. Both are valid ways to learn. I wouldn't say Maha's are worse in any way. I actually like most of hers way more. It's a style choice more than anything.
@@FromTheHipp Not necessarily, from the ones I saw in here all she really did was go down to f/1.8 and color grade the image. I, like others in the comments, appreciate Maha's style. Perhaps with either a different setup (like a film camera) or some basic editing, her photos could easily rival if not surpass Jess's in my opinion. Honestly to me, the word objective should never be used when talking about photography. Art is subjective, and photography in this case is a form of art. If you think Jess's work is better, that's your correct opinion, and since other people have different (also correct) opinions, it's subjective.
@@FromTheHipp What's your definition of quality? If it's raw gear power, I'd again disagree with you since I've seen many photographers be able to pump out top notch artistic work with point and shoot cameras. If that's too hard to believe, just watch any video on RUclips where a pro takes a $500 camera and shoots pictures that still look professional. If it's editing, that's still subjective. Everyone can edit how they please and everyone can have their own opinions on it. The only thing I can think of at the moment that could possibly be labelled as objective is composition, but even then if you break the rules in the proper fashion, "proper composition" is nonexistent. In this case, I think Maha's composition is just fine. I again ask you to please share what you mean by quality.
I have watched all your RUclips videos and I love them. I'm 15 years old and a beginner in photography, just like you were when you were at the start of your career. I look up to you. I could relate to you when you said that you took pictures of dry leaves and nature because you didn't have any model to shoot. You are an inspiration to me.
I pray that Jesus helps you to do well at it and that you don't forget to grow in Him in the process. In Jesus name. Amen. I'm 17 and I'm a beginner at photography too
@@professionalpotato4764 1. It's not religion to me. It's a relationship with Christ to me. 2. Jesus is my life and it's totally normal for me to pray for someone. I have the same freedom to share prayers etc just like anyone else has freedom to share their opinion or leave a comment. 3. Someone encouraging someone by saying "Good job. Never give up. Keep going" is the same as me saying prayers etc to encourage someone. So yeah...totally normal for me. Thank you
@@joymwendwa6959 "you don't forget to grow in Him in the process". Yeah, you can pray for yourself, but do not insinuate anything about anyone else following your own religion. That's the problematic line in your reply.
"my lens were like 99$ on sale " the photographers that live in the U.S.A don't know how lucky they are . Here in Brazil, the same lens it's almost 700 Reais. The minimun salary of an employee here is 1.045,00 Reais. 1 dollar = 5,36 Reais. View for youself ....
I think that's the point. Both outfits were very .. elegant and editorial. I think the contrast of the nature green and the glamorous blacks and whites are intended.
I love seeing Maha getting more vocal and more comfortable with the model as they're shooting. I love her little asides, gettin' sassy. I love how supportive Jess is with the flash. Love how good this whole shoot was, honestly. Just love the positive vibes all around.
"Are we ready for some arthritis?" Truest statement of all time. My wrists, hands, and knees are SHOT. I was a photographer for 20 years. I quit about 4 years ago. I really just can't do it anymore. But it was truly a dream job. If you can make a living by creating something... you are living the dream.
@@filmecke2618 I'm an in home caregiver. But I specifically care for people who are quadriplegic and people who have traumatic brain injuries. It still physically takes a toll on my arthritis but it's not as hard on my hands and wrists.
In the first round I liked Jessica's photos more but in the second round i feel like Maha's photos stood out more. It was obvious she took and adapted advices from you and it made her better. Really good video Jessica!!!
i honestly dont understand why people are bothered by the concept of this video :/ saw someone say she should have done pro vs pro which she did already, people commented on the music choice in the background which was some silly some lofi. also left me super confused cuz the music was just fitting the moment. also people are mad that about it being pro vs student. but she gave her tips and advice. i dont get it because one of the best ways to learn is to see how someone else does it and then try and recreate that. plus i think we can all agree that she wasnt degrading her or embarrassing her in any way??????
Maha's images were more thought-out and she needed a lot fewer shots to get excellent ones. The fact that she didn't shoot portraits often is pretty mind-blowing considering how well she did. The image with the hand shadowing the face was jaw-dropping. As a former professional photographer, I prefer fast primes over the 24-70 2.8 (which I own) hands down - especially for full body shots. Headshots are beautiful with the 24-70 but I always shot those at 70mm when possible to avoid lens distortion. I also hate the flat on-camera flash. A reflector would have been so much more flattering, or off-camera flash. An urban setting would have been really cool for this shoot.
I agree, I think a less soft, more modern, luxury, pristine, dramatic, or glam background would've matched the outfits better. Like say a ballroom or fancy opera theater or high-end hotel for example or by a grand piano or like a Moulin Rouge feel. Or all black or all white. Or maybe even a bold, bright, cool pop of drama color like red or royal blue or possibly even bold orange or bold, cool yellow, etc. Glass, metal. Maybe sleek, shiny. Or if nature, a nature with more drama to it like maybe pristine snowy winter or Grand Canyon or really dark sculptural trees or tall, very manicured bushes or huge flock of birds flying or thunderstorm or metal sculpture or something. But this was a great exercise in just working with what weather and light and nature were around. I think the model probably wore outfits which really express her which is great and authentic! After I wrote this I glimpsed on her Instagram and sure enough I see tons of those luxury and drama vibes I was describing! Nice! I feel validated in the vibe and style cues I picked up.
Maha would have struggled even more if the model was a new model rather than an experienced professional model. And also Maha learned to be more assertive with giving direction because she was able to watch Jessica and learn. I couldn't help but think the entire time, they needed an off camera flash or strobe.
5:53 I love speckled natural light. Getting organic patches of the light and shadow that still flatter the face or enhance the expression is the tricky part
I really liked how Maha kind of learned from Jessica by watching her, I think her second round of pictures were a lot better and we're super beautiful.
Am I missing something? I would love to see all the photos on a blog or something. I thought at the end of the video there would be a photoreel comparing the two.
To me it's the difference between their backgrounds. I think a lot of instagram and modern modeling photography is very within Jessica's style so that's why it's hard to differentiate yourself from the rest. It's a very commercial space with specific standards. Whereas being a photography student teaches you about the art of photography within the fine arts space and so other things are important, but those people are not necessarily selling or having their own businesses. I don't consider Maha's photography 'fashion' portraiture like Jessica's because fashion photography has become a very specific thing. I think Maha's photographs are more portraits, not fashion portraits. For example, Jessica's approach is definitely learned through what's seen online, which many times has that blurriness in the background - when she spoke about putting it in F1.8. You see that a lot in TikTok photographers when they get random people from the streets. It's definitely a challenge to blend both though between composition, trends, innovation, and have a sense of depth. I find it really interesting when portrait artists (not fashion photographers) end up making portraits for fashion magazines when they never intended to be in that space.
@@obandutra1 that was just my opinion. Maha’s photos are more interesting. Jessica’s photos are good but I’ve seen that a lot all the time :) again that is just my opinion
@@PS-co8ux Oh no I wasn't defending or attacking anyone, and I absolutely agree with your opinion. I find it super interesting to hypothesize why that might be. Full respect for both of their styles :)
I disagree with Jessica Martinez, maybe you just have a different vision. I am a visual arts student too, almost 10 years doing photography and I still don't like the "commercial" style portrait, still both of them had good shoots
@@jessicamartinez8239 Could you provide some insight on why you believe Maha's photography is significantly worse? I would love to know, I'm also a student and in the process of learning.
@@bereal8253 I never said that? I liked Maha’s images and thought they were good for her being a beginner. I was just saying as someone who is not new to photography, I know that Jessica has the technical skills, and is able to pose her models with ease, and has invested in good equipment. Maha still did a good job. Art is subjective of course, but if you look at professional work Jessica has that factor.
@@jessicamartinez8239 Ah got you, that is what i wanted to know, those technical skills you mentioned reflected in the photograph itself that would differentiate them. It's difficult to understand the line where artwork becomes professional, without being stale and something that's already been seen a million times. Also, i don't believe the rest of the factors matter, whether the photographer was vocal or able to pose the model with ease is something that a viewer of the image would never know.
A really cool challenge would be to see you do different styles of photography, like documentary or street photography (not the ones when you ask for portraits) for example :)
u know the respect i have for Jessica has increased so much after seeing how she is encouraging new people to learn from her. i wanna do internship in film making but none of my seniors are letting me in because i might get better :( i wish i could have such experience...
Someone should make a video where you help beginner photographers learn how to guide models, be confident behind a camera, and tips on shots versus just a challenge where no one learns anything.
Jessica's and Maha's shots with the flash still look like a natural light shot. 😍 I use both natural light and flash, and I also like it when flash photos look natural.
I think it would be interesting for you and her to go over the photos afterward and compare to see what changes you would make as a professional. Comparing the differences is interesting to me and also I think it would be good to learn from that comparison too- I lot of my photos end up looking like the student photographers photos and I don’t know why
We should give more love to Jessica! Definitely deserves more subscribers and likes. Some self claimed photographers on RUclips just overated and most of photos just preset, Lightroom and photoshop tricks. Cannot stand!!! Please call yourself as a digital artist not a photographer.
Well most photographers use things like lightroom/photoshop to edit and help style their shots so I wouldn't say you're not a photographer if you do use them !
I agree that Jessica deserves more subscribers and likes! Using photoshop/Lightroom or presets doesn't make anyone less of a photohrapher though, editing is a part of the process.
@@angelicalsensations 40% composition 40% lighting and 20% post process. It is hard to keep the balance. Otherwise I would consider them as digital artists not photographers. They use photos as base to create a media art. Photographers rely on composition and light to create art pieces. My opinion.
@@luisliu7843 20% post production for a whole shoot or for one photo? If you mean per shoot I think we'll have to agree to disagree, that's way too little for professional photography in my opinion. I wouldn't say using a preset or "photoshop tricks" (unsure what you mean by this? Turning up the brightness? Removing one zit? Where do you draw the line?) turns a photographer into a digital artist by default. Again, editing is part of the process.
@@angelicalsensations not referring to time but he emphasis and planning process. I am an old school. To illustrate my point: Peter McKinnon vs Peter Lindbergh. I know their level are not even close but it is a funny 🤩 comparison since they have the same first name. McKinnon’s photo appealing as well but it is a digital art not photography. I consider him as a content creator or a digital artist but not a photographer. I do lots post editing as well but I am currently working on how to minimize the post editing process and give more thoughts on composition and lighting. ✌️ thanks for sharing your thoughts and nice chat.
So I have to say I liked the first girls pictures better. The professional photographer cut off the elbow, she underexposed and had scattered light in her images. The first girls though her direction was not as on point had good lighting, great poses and overall I just liked those pictures better
This video helps me a lot. I'm a photography student and yesterday i had my first photoshoot with a model and i did it so bad, but now with Jessica's video i know what to improve for my next one. Thank you so so so much Jess
Strangely, I'm more introverted yet I enjoy taking pictures of people !! I got to overcome my awkwardness though. 17 atm and idk where life will take me, still deciding whether or not I should go to school for photography or for something else but you inspire me Jessica! Looking forward to your online course tomorrow.
"Mixed media" is being used here as a euphemism for "collage". Be proud of what you do, that confidence is the main difference between the two photographers. Models are at ease when they are being directed.
"someone who has barely any experience in photography VS Pro Photographer" As a nearly graduated photography student myself, I couldn't help but wonder what this video was supposed to show. like ok cool... you're more professional, you know what you want in your images and know your gear very well, whereas she was struggling with directions and handling the camera, making mistakes like anyone learning photography would. Chill lofi beats while you shoot and basically Benny Hill show theme while Maha was shooting... that's just straight up mean. Like other people have commented as well: This should have been thought through better, instead of showing off against an inexperienced and insecure student. You even said it yourself that she was very insecure.
I agree with this! I feel like there is a huge difference between helpful criticism and bragging/show off criticism. I feel like Maha was a good sport through it all, but it gave me a very “you’re okay but I’m better” type vibe.
@@emilyrisner7238 I got the same impression like "aww cute baby stil learning to walk" but the funny partnis while the student seemed more insecure, I think if you pick top 3 shots of the shoot she'd cover all 3 of them at least in my opinion
I disagree I don’t know if I’m seeing it wrong but all I could hear is maha trying to seem like she’s better. And idk if you’re a frequent viewer on this channel but she’s not showing off she’s just a talkative person, the model discreetly even brought to light that Jessica is better. This video wasn’t to show who’s better but to expand people who are in a similar position to mahas perspective on how they conduct their photography and also the difference between taught and self-taught photographers
@@surreal5864I fully understand that the video was meant to show the difference between self taught and educated photographers. Where Jessica went wrong however is, that she'd have to compare her work to someone who has been in business as long as she has been, but completed a formal education, not comparing herself against someone who is only starting out in photography. I think Maha was just very insecure in her own work as well as standing in front of a camera herself.
I love the friendly banter from Maha towards Jessica. I just know by her tone she adores and respects Jess to the moon. As we all do. Keep up the great work Jess!!!
I assumed this video would be you, as the pro photographer showing “dos and donts” that would set a pro apart from a student. I did not however think it would be you literally putting yourself up against a student who clearly from the get go felt insecure because obviously you’re going to “win”. Ouch. This should have been thought through better.
I couldn’t even agree more with you. It’s embarrassing for the professional, she should do professional versus professional, and see who gets the better shots.
I see what you mean, but as a student myself I thought it was helpful to see the difference in how they interact with the model. I think the student in the video actually got more confident as the video went on and I don’t think Jessica meant it to be malicious in any way. Plus the student agreed to do the video in the first place
it really depends on how you look at it. to me, and a few others, we see it as something to help us improve on with our photos. it helped me to compare my work to jessica’s without having to ask her personally. i think it was a fun video, and i didn’t see anything negative about it. everyone was having a great time and were doing their own thing.
I think Maha did a great job at choosing the poses and the view behind and Jessica did a great job at choosing the best light. If Maha's photos had the same lights/shadows I would choose her photos because they are more interesting
Love how you described her as an “introvert photographer” that’s how I would call myself. This was great to see the two different perspectives. Great video ❤️
Jessica, this was one of your best videos. You were working two delightful young ladies, each of whom were quite intelligent in their approach and serious about doing their best. Good luck to all three of you.
The student is so pleasant and kind 🥰 really great energy, I feel like even the most camera shy people would feel comfortable being photographed by her
Jessica came across a bit too arrogant and a bit up herself in this video. Both had some cracking shots, but Maha's B&W photo was fantastic, let's be honest.
Defenition of introverted Photographer.... i just saw myself in her the whole time wow, didnt know how this looks to others. I dont know if its good? There are alot of people who said to me "well if you cant speak up its not the right job for you" ,but for me its like i need to get startes and then warm up. Im just more cautios about everything, i dont want to get into personal space right from start.. i How do i get more self cofidence, guess thats the biggest problem,also not wanting to hurt the other party
Talk to the model like you would any another human being because they are. Be positive (don’t say “that’s not working” or “that looks bad”) just move on to something different.
I'm also introverted and have been a professional photographer for 5 years in LA! I think you can even tell your models straight up from the start that you're more introverted and it takes you a little while to warm up - people are open to that kind of transparency! Gradually, photography will become more comfortable and you'll be able to think about that side less and just focus on directing / complimenting the model :)
make sure you form a rapport with the model first thing, just talk to them like you would with a friend and be positive! eventually with experience you'll become way more confident and won't have trouble speaking where you need to!
The outfit is just not matching the location. I can hardly focus with this combo. I don't know if it's just me, but maybe an 80's home set up or something more urban would match
a HUGE difference is technology. Jessica's camera does a lot of the work for her that a Nikon D3400 won't do for its average user. Still interesting to see the difference!
So cool. When I first started about 45 years ago I did a lot of time-consuming setup, although it was then about 90% a hobby, with about 5% paid and 5% professional and related learning. I worried about the time spent, the film costs, the development time... Every shot had to be a lot more planned. After about 10 years I no longer had concerns as it was much more creative, and the money supported the costs without issue. I started to get a bit of a voice, and realized how far I had to go (and still have to, even decades later). After another decade of shooting (in the late-90’s to maybe 2010, the challenge became staying creative, and I started focusing mainly on high-end portraiture for wealthy family, estate photos etc using everything from 35mm to medium and large format. The money was good, although I only shot maybe 15 hours a week. During the last decade plus it has become more about fun and trying new things, and digital cameras have been a major part of that- and especially mirrorless. Most importantly, the tools have progressed so far since the late-80’s. I know people say the gear and tools don’t matter, and while that may be the case for some types of shooters, subjects and styles of photography, I feel that the new post options alone has exploded the creative possibilities. I no longer have to use a bunch of lighting and related gear to craft so heavily during acquisition; and instead, can decide in post where I want to take and tweak things- far beyond what we used to do in the 70’s - 90’s in the dark room. I feel we are entering a new era of acquisition and post all over again, where any inherent technical or related limitations will no longer be the major issue, but rather, what creative composition, subject and post ideas you have. Most cameras have advanced to the point where lens choices and digital post are the major factors now. For me, this is wonderful, as I have so much I need to explore and learn still, and being able to do this so easily is amazingly engaging and fun- and the fact that there are no longer chemicals and hundreds of pounds of supporting gear, make it that much better!
Came to know Jessica through Brandon Woelfel, she is an amazing photographer. I am slowly taking inspirations from her although I am a Honours student. For me, photography is a gateaway from this pressures of life and love to see the world in a new dimension. I am very grateful that I came to know her and taking some of her ideas for polishing my skills.
You might have already done something like this before, but I think instead of something like this that could come across as “look how good I am compared to this student” to some, perhaps a challenge along the lines of this but the pro gets an entry level camera with a kit lens, and the student gets a high end camera with a top of the line portrait lens would be a more interesting video. I didn’t read into it like this, but I can see how many might see this video as quite egotistical.
The major difference I noticed is Jessica’s images were processed and Mahas were SOOC. Interesting choice… as this makes Maha the clear winner, since hers were equally beautiful SOOC. Apply the same processing to both, and Jessica may have been a bit embarrassed.
Its ok i shoot on a T3i currently using an old camera isnt bad as it seems you just have to learn to be happy eith it and work with it rather than being like" ugh i use an old camera"
Jessica you have to do another video on how to edit like you!! It's so much different than Photographers where I'm from and I'm such a newbie I'd love to learn from your editing style
This was fun to watch. I've never done portrait shots, but I felt like I learned a lot from watching yall and I want to try it out. To expose the sky and the model, you should expose for both in separate shots and layer them together in photoshop. Use a tripod and a very still model
Maha is like me in photo taking, although I am not as technical but the type of feeling she is going for is what I would have gone for. I did almost do fine art.
I’d be doing the same thing as Maha. I’m introverted and don’t take portraits of models. Even tho it sounds fun but I’d rather stick to landscapes, city scapes, urban shots, and candid portraits while in the streets. I’ve had a canon t5i with a couple lenses for 6 years now lol. Photography is dang expensive.
Same here. I'm also an introvert. I've tried to take pictures of people but it was never something outstanding. I feel much more confident shooting landscapes and macro.
Same but im just not into still or just basic portraits , i just need more than that, i am currently experiment with creative portraits where its either a costume, or a model that im gonna mix with a collage later😂
Unlike Sara Dietschy, which requires single Peachy's network to operate, Maha, Sophia, and Jessica has to connect to the separated local networks, which has significant limitations to all operators.
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Y’all are missing a keyword here: student. What do students do? They learn. She’s complimenting her while giving critiques as a professional.
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Yeah nothing wrong with being a beginner or a student. Being able to shoot next to a professional photographer was my favorite part of my photography course because it shows the skillset you are working for, it's extremely motivating.
If Sara Dietschy can have 60 minutes of recording, 150 minutes of live streaming, 9 to 12 times the sound quality of old channels, 24 hours of highway and 30 to 32 times the overall bandwidth quality of Dog, then Maha, Sophia, and Jessica can only have 24 minutes of recording, 45 minutes of live streaming, 5 to 8 times the sound quality of old channels, 14 to 15 minutes of highway and 2 to 4 times the overall bandwidth quality of Dog.
Maha shoots like a film photographer, I feel like that’s what she is at heart. You can tell when she keeps the model still for longer periods of time
Taking a while to focus the lense.
Also shooting in bright sunlight blows out digital, while it is the prime lighting for color negative film
Would've been nice to compare notes at the end, grabbing the best set of photo's from both photographers and discuss why they made certain descisions and what they were going for both technically and aesthetically.
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I think it is about post-editing as well.
They should have had a before and after editing.
^this. LOL., the unedited should have been included. That would be more interesting
Editing is crucial
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Yeah honestly this looked like 90% post editing.
You should do this more to help new photographers and new models too.
@L D what didn't you like about jessica's?
@L D possibly meant help with publicity and getting attention
Pretty sure the student knows their way around a camera
I didn’t write this comment as a judgement to the student. Both had great pictures, i’m just saying, with the experience Jessica has, she could help new people getting into these things.
Model / photographer insta follow train?
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maha's first photo made my jaw DROP
the students laugh is so cute sjshdhdhdh
Yasss, I was searching for this comment, so cuuute
Yes her laugh is the cutest
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Maha: “I have touchscreen. We’re not THAT outdated.”
Me: -cries in second hand rebel t6-
I don't have touchscreen either. my t3i is weeping in the corner of my room. "It's okay, t3i, mama still loves you. "
@@marykate647 my t2i still going strong lol
Touch screen is useless lmao
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My camera doesn’t even have a screen
I feel like that first outfit was very editorial for a park 😭
Yeah, I thought it would look cool again the pattern of the bench, but definitely did not suit the casual sitting by the water
What are you talking about that Is how I always dress for my daily stroll in the park with my parasol
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Maha has schooling and Jess has experience. Both are valid ways to learn. I wouldn't say Maha's are worse in any way. I actually like most of hers way more. It's a style choice more than anything.
Completely agree!! Love this comment
Jess' are objectively better
@@FromTheHipp Not necessarily, from the ones I saw in here all she really did was go down to f/1.8 and color grade the image. I, like others in the comments, appreciate Maha's style. Perhaps with either a different setup (like a film camera) or some basic editing, her photos could easily rival if not surpass Jess's in my opinion. Honestly to me, the word objective should never be used when talking about photography. Art is subjective, and photography in this case is a form of art. If you think Jess's work is better, that's your correct opinion, and since other people have different (also correct) opinions, it's subjective.
@@gilernt art is subjective and what you like is subjective but quality is not.
@@FromTheHipp What's your definition of quality? If it's raw gear power, I'd again disagree with you since I've seen many photographers be able to pump out top notch artistic work with point and shoot cameras. If that's too hard to believe, just watch any video on RUclips where a pro takes a $500 camera and shoots pictures that still look professional. If it's editing, that's still subjective. Everyone can edit how they please and everyone can have their own opinions on it. The only thing I can think of at the moment that could possibly be labelled as objective is composition, but even then if you break the rules in the proper fashion, "proper composition" is nonexistent. In this case, I think Maha's composition is just fine. I again ask you to please share what you mean by quality.
I have watched all your RUclips videos and I love them. I'm 15 years old and a beginner in photography, just like you were when you were at the start of your career. I look up to you. I could relate to you when you said that you took pictures of dry leaves and nature because you didn't have any model to shoot. You are an inspiration to me.
I pray that Jesus helps you to do well at it and that you don't forget to grow in Him in the process. In Jesus name. Amen.
I'm 17 and I'm a beginner at photography too
@@joymwendwa6959 If that works for you great :) Not sure if there's any point in bringing religion up though. Completely irrelevant imo.
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1. It's not religion to me. It's a relationship with Christ to me.
2. Jesus is my life and it's totally normal for me to pray for someone. I have the same freedom to share prayers etc just like anyone else has freedom to share their opinion or leave a comment.
3. Someone encouraging someone by saying "Good job. Never give up. Keep going" is the same as me saying prayers etc to encourage someone.
So yeah...totally normal for me. Thank you
Manythanks
@@joymwendwa6959 "you don't forget to grow in Him in the process". Yeah, you can pray for yourself, but do not insinuate anything about anyone else following your own religion. That's the problematic line in your reply.
"my lens were like 99$ on sale " the photographers that live in the U.S.A don't know how lucky they are . Here in Brazil, the same lens it's almost 700 Reais. The minimun salary of an employee here is 1.045,00 Reais. 1 dollar = 5,36 Reais. View for youself ....
I have the same lens and it was $2900 Mexican Pesos on sale plus shipping, that's about $140 USD so yeah, they have it good
@@user-to4fo2xb8v i still ended up paying over 150$ for my nifty fifty lense and I'm in the USA 😭
Well, it was on sale. 700 reais is about 130 dollars, so not that far of tbh
Here, in Argentina i don't even want to look for prices. LATAM understands
@@theaverageguy6068 on sale? that's a bit too much if it was a 'sale' :(
In my opinion, the outfit of the model doesn't go well with the place they are shooting in ...
It could work.
That’s usually how fashion photography works most of the time... it allows the outfit to stick out and be seen as more exquisite
I think it's really nice though, it gives contrast to the subject being photograph, a lot of fashion photography are like that
I think that's the point. Both outfits were very .. elegant and editorial. I think the contrast of the nature green and the glamorous blacks and whites are intended.
Manythanks
I love seeing Maha getting more vocal and more comfortable with the model as they're shooting. I love her little asides, gettin' sassy. I love how supportive Jess is with the flash. Love how good this whole shoot was, honestly. Just love the positive vibes all around.
"Get better shots than Jessica" lol love it!
Hihi,nicetomeetyou
Am I the only one who wanna see Jessica model? Like a photographer tries to model challenge?😍
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I really like Jessica's personality she's like big sister...
she actually did a "photoshoot as a model" video long time ago
Maha has such a calming personality. Watching her shoot just made me happy.
Can we see the editing too? Cause that has a lot to do with the final product as well
"Are we ready for some arthritis?" Truest statement of all time. My wrists, hands, and knees are SHOT. I was a photographer for 20 years. I quit about 4 years ago. I really just can't do it anymore. But it was truly a dream job. If you can make a living by creating something... you are living the dream.
What are u doing now :D
@@filmecke2618 I'm an in home caregiver. But I specifically care for people who are quadriplegic and people who have traumatic brain injuries. It still physically takes a toll on my arthritis but it's not as hard on my hands and wrists.
@@filmecke2618 I love what I do now too. I feel like I am making a small difference in the world. But I can tell you, it's an extreme pay cut.
@@stepford702 reading it was interesting I hope you’ll doing fine ☺️✨ thanks for your good work
In the first round I liked Jessica's photos more but in the second round i feel like Maha's photos stood out more. It was obvious she took and adapted advices from you and it made her better. Really good video Jessica!!!
There are people who don't have a photography classes or not a pro but their shots are awesome because their eyes are gifted.
i honestly dont understand why people are bothered by the concept of this video :/ saw someone say she should have done pro vs pro which she did already, people commented on the music choice in the background which was some silly some lofi. also left me super confused cuz the music was just fitting the moment. also people are mad that about it being pro vs student. but she gave her tips and advice. i dont get it because one of the best ways to learn is to see how someone else does it and then try and recreate that. plus i think we can all agree that she wasnt degrading her or embarrassing her in any way??????
Jessica you should start including the settings both of you use for the photos, that would make the comparison more interesting
"Are you ready for some arthritis?" I wasn't ready to be reminded that I should be studying 😞
And i didn't need to be reminded I have arthritis and carpal tunnel 🤣😭 and im just 21 fml
Maha's images were more thought-out and she needed a lot fewer shots to get excellent ones. The fact that she didn't shoot portraits often is pretty mind-blowing considering how well she did. The image with the hand shadowing the face was jaw-dropping. As a former professional photographer, I prefer fast primes over the 24-70 2.8 (which I own) hands down - especially for full body shots. Headshots are beautiful with the 24-70 but I always shot those at 70mm when possible to avoid lens distortion. I also hate the flat on-camera flash. A reflector would have been so much more flattering, or off-camera flash. An urban setting would have been really cool for this shoot.
I agree, I think a less soft, more modern, luxury, pristine, dramatic, or glam background would've matched the outfits better. Like say a ballroom or fancy opera theater or high-end hotel for example or by a grand piano or like a Moulin Rouge feel. Or all black or all white. Or maybe even a bold, bright, cool pop of drama color like red or royal blue or possibly even bold orange or bold, cool yellow, etc. Glass, metal. Maybe sleek, shiny. Or if nature, a nature with more drama to it like maybe pristine snowy winter or Grand Canyon or really dark sculptural trees or tall, very manicured bushes or huge flock of birds flying or thunderstorm or metal sculpture or something. But this was a great exercise in just working with what weather and light and nature were around. I think the model probably wore outfits which really express her which is great and authentic!
After I wrote this I glimpsed on her Instagram and sure enough I see tons of those luxury and drama vibes I was describing! Nice! I feel validated in the vibe and style cues I picked up.
Maha would have struggled even more if the model was a new model rather than an experienced professional model. And also Maha learned to be more assertive with giving direction because she was able to watch Jessica and learn. I couldn't help but think the entire time, they needed an off camera flash or strobe.
5:53 I love speckled natural light. Getting organic patches of the light and shadow that still flatter the face or enhance the expression is the tricky part
you should do one that’s like “mediocre broke college student VS professional photographer” challenge, and invite me 😌
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I really liked how Maha kind of learned from Jessica by watching her, I think her second round of pictures were a lot better and we're super beautiful.
Am I missing something? I would love to see all the photos on a blog or something. I thought at the end of the video there would be a photoreel comparing the two.
Hi Jessica! I would love to see a video where you show the photos you took but didn't choose! And tell us why you didn't choose those but other ones?
She won't lol
Maha’s photos are more interesting, fresh, out of the box while Jessica is just “I’ve seen it before” kinda photos
To me it's the difference between their backgrounds. I think a lot of instagram and modern modeling photography is very within Jessica's style so that's why it's hard to differentiate yourself from the rest. It's a very commercial space with specific standards. Whereas being a photography student teaches you about the art of photography within the fine arts space and so other things are important, but those people are not necessarily selling or having their own businesses. I don't consider Maha's photography 'fashion' portraiture like Jessica's because fashion photography has become a very specific thing. I think Maha's photographs are more portraits, not fashion portraits. For example, Jessica's approach is definitely learned through what's seen online, which many times has that blurriness in the background - when she spoke about putting it in F1.8. You see that a lot in TikTok photographers when they get random people from the streets. It's definitely a challenge to blend both though between composition, trends, innovation, and have a sense of depth. I find it really interesting when portrait artists (not fashion photographers) end up making portraits for fashion magazines when they never intended to be in that space.
@@obandutra1 that was just my opinion. Maha’s photos are more interesting. Jessica’s photos are good but I’ve seen that a lot all the time :) again that is just my opinion
@@PS-co8ux Oh no I wasn't defending or attacking anyone, and I absolutely agree with your opinion. I find it super interesting to hypothesize why that might be. Full respect for both of their styles :)
I was thinking the same! There is "something" in Maha's photos that really catches my attention, whereas Jessica's ones are just smooth!
Maha studies art and has photography courses, she doesn't only study photography, which I guess has a very big influence on that.
Maha's strategy: be better than Jessica
Challenge is over, we have a winner!
Maybe it's because I'm new photography myself but I liked Maha's photos more
Yeah, no you’re definitely new to photography lol
I disagree with Jessica Martinez, maybe you just have a different vision. I am a visual arts student too, almost 10 years doing photography and I still don't like the "commercial" style portrait, still both of them had good shoots
@@jessicamartinez8239 Could you provide some insight on why you believe Maha's photography is significantly worse? I would love to know, I'm also a student and in the process of learning.
@@bereal8253 I never said that? I liked Maha’s images and thought they were good for her being a beginner. I was just saying as someone who is not new to photography, I know that Jessica has the technical skills, and is able to pose her models with ease, and has invested in good equipment. Maha still did a good job. Art is subjective of course, but if you look at professional work Jessica has that factor.
@@jessicamartinez8239 Ah got you, that is what i wanted to know, those technical skills you mentioned reflected in the photograph itself that would differentiate them. It's difficult to understand the line where artwork becomes professional, without being stale and something that's already been seen a million times. Also, i don't believe the rest of the factors matter, whether the photographer was vocal or able to pose the model with ease is something that a viewer of the image would never know.
A really cool challenge would be to see you do different styles of photography, like documentary or street photography (not the ones when you ask for portraits) for example :)
u know the respect i have for Jessica has increased so much after seeing how she is encouraging new people to learn from her.
i wanna do internship in film making but none of my seniors are letting me in because i might get better :(
i wish i could have such experience...
They just want you to pay them because it's tough to pay the bills doing what you love. They love photography, not teaching
Someone should make a video where you help beginner photographers learn how to guide models, be confident behind a camera, and tips on shots versus just a challenge where no one learns anything.
the student just killed it! knocked it out of the park
Jessica's and Maha's shots with the flash still look like a natural light shot. 😍 I use both natural light and flash, and I also like it when flash photos look natural.
I think it would be interesting for you and her to go over the photos afterward and compare to see what changes you would make as a professional. Comparing the differences is interesting to me and also I think it would be good to learn from that comparison too- I lot of my photos end up looking like the student photographers photos and I don’t know why
We should give more love to Jessica! Definitely deserves more subscribers and likes. Some self claimed photographers on RUclips just overated and most of photos just preset, Lightroom and photoshop tricks. Cannot stand!!! Please call yourself as a digital artist not a photographer.
Well most photographers use things like lightroom/photoshop to edit and help style their shots so I wouldn't say you're not a photographer if you do use them !
I agree that Jessica deserves more subscribers and likes! Using photoshop/Lightroom or presets doesn't make anyone less of a photohrapher though, editing is a part of the process.
@@angelicalsensations 40% composition 40% lighting and 20% post process. It is hard to keep the balance. Otherwise I would consider them as digital artists not photographers. They use photos as base to create a media art. Photographers rely on composition and light to create art pieces. My opinion.
@@luisliu7843 20% post production for a whole shoot or for one photo? If you mean per shoot I think we'll have to agree to disagree, that's way too little for professional photography in my opinion. I wouldn't say using a preset or "photoshop tricks" (unsure what you mean by this? Turning up the brightness? Removing one zit? Where do you draw the line?) turns a photographer into a digital artist by default. Again, editing is part of the process.
@@angelicalsensations not referring to time but he emphasis and planning process. I am an old school. To illustrate my point: Peter McKinnon vs Peter Lindbergh. I know their level are not even close but it is a funny 🤩 comparison since they have the same first name. McKinnon’s photo appealing as well but it is a digital art not photography. I consider him as a content creator or a digital artist but not a photographer. I do lots post editing as well but I am currently working on how to minimize the post editing process and give more thoughts on composition and lighting. ✌️ thanks for sharing your thoughts and nice chat.
omg the black and white photo was the best👐🏼
So I have to say I liked the first girls pictures better. The professional photographer cut off the elbow, she underexposed and had scattered light in her images. The first girls though her direction was not as on point had good lighting, great poses and overall I just liked those pictures better
Wow the way she puts that funky music on the student 🤣🤣
I noticed it
This video helps me a lot. I'm a photography student and yesterday i had my first photoshoot with a model and i did it so bad, but now with Jessica's video i know what to improve for my next one.
Thank you so so so much Jess
Strangely, I'm more introverted yet I enjoy taking pictures of people !! I got to overcome my awkwardness though. 17 atm and idk where life will take me, still deciding whether or not I should go to school for photography or for something else but you inspire me Jessica! Looking forward to your online course tomorrow.
Sometimes my awkwardness lightens up the mood of the shoot and can make my clients loosen up a bit. 😂
@@josenotmarichan haha that's good to know
i don't know why but Maha reminded me of Lauren from Cimorelli
Yeah!! Their personalities and way of talking are matching a lot.
they have the same face shape as well, and their voice kinda sounds similar too
Student photographer: *takes photos*
Pro photographer: "I'm going all the way down to 1.8.." *smug duck face*
Supposedly us: 👁👄👁
Ahahahahaha same! I instantly said "all the way down to 1.8??? pro????"
@@tiagodacunha_ wait what does 1.8 mean. I’m not a photographer as you can tell
e@@doflya129 Its the aperture setting. regulates amount of light but more importantly regulated depth of field
@@jamesd8671 oh okay thank you
I always go down to my lowest setting when taking portrait shots.
Maha’s laugh is literally the cutest ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
"Mixed media" is being used here as a euphemism for "collage". Be proud of what you do, that confidence is the main difference between the two photographers. Models are at ease when they are being directed.
Maha has such a contagious laugh
Jessica is so good... her quality of work is just outstanding.
Watching the video almost at the end and I think Jess just taught me how to use flash properly 😂
Right? 😅👍
Amateur photographer here in 2022 binging all your old content! Loving it xx
"someone who has barely any experience in photography VS Pro Photographer"
As a nearly graduated photography student myself, I couldn't help but wonder what this video was supposed to show.
like ok cool... you're more professional, you know what you want in your images and know your gear very well, whereas she was struggling with directions and handling the camera, making mistakes like anyone learning photography would.
Chill lofi beats while you shoot and basically Benny Hill show theme while Maha was shooting... that's just straight up mean.
Like other people have commented as well: This should have been thought through better, instead of showing off against an inexperienced and insecure student. You even said it yourself that she was very insecure.
Agreed!
I agree with this! I feel like there is a huge difference between helpful criticism and bragging/show off criticism. I feel like Maha was a good sport through it all, but it gave me a very “you’re okay but I’m better” type vibe.
@@emilyrisner7238 I got the same impression like "aww cute baby stil learning to walk" but the funny partnis while the student seemed more insecure, I think if you pick top 3 shots of the shoot she'd cover all 3 of them at least in my opinion
I disagree I don’t know if I’m seeing it wrong but all I could hear is maha trying to seem like she’s better. And idk if you’re a frequent viewer on this channel but she’s not showing off she’s just a talkative person, the model discreetly even brought to light that Jessica is better. This video wasn’t to show who’s better but to expand people who are in a similar position to mahas perspective on how they conduct their photography and also the difference between taught and self-taught photographers
@@surreal5864I fully understand that the video was meant to show the difference between self taught and educated photographers. Where Jessica went wrong however is, that she'd have to compare her work to someone who has been in business as long as she has been, but completed a formal education, not comparing herself against someone who is only starting out in photography.
I think Maha was just very insecure in her own work as well as standing in front of a camera herself.
I love the friendly banter from Maha towards Jessica. I just know by her tone she adores and respects Jess to the moon. As we all do. Keep up the great work Jess!!!
I assumed this video would be you, as the pro photographer showing “dos and donts” that would set a pro apart from a student. I did not however think it would be you literally putting yourself up against a student who clearly from the get go felt insecure because obviously you’re going to “win”. Ouch. This should have been thought through better.
I couldn’t even agree more with you. It’s embarrassing for the professional, she should do professional versus professional, and see who gets the better shots.
I think it was more meant to be about comparing than competing but I could be wrong
I see what you mean, but as a student myself I thought it was helpful to see the difference in how they interact with the model. I think the student in the video actually got more confident as the video went on and I don’t think Jessica meant it to be malicious in any way. Plus the student agreed to do the video in the first place
it really depends on how you look at it. to me, and a few others, we see it as something to help us improve on with our photos. it helped me to compare my work to jessica’s without having to ask her personally. i think it was a fun video, and i didn’t see anything negative about it. everyone was having a great time and were doing their own thing.
Regardless mahas was better so 🤷🏾♀️
You both have such beautiful pictures I feel like the major difference from the photos is the blurriness of the background and lighting.
Tbh the biggeste difference is the color grading at the end. The first "pro" shots were highly edited in LR and Photoshop. Thats the difference.
Yup! Post editing changes the game big time!
I like the lights and shades MAHA uses in her photos.
I think Maha did a great job at choosing the poses and the view behind and Jessica did a great job at choosing the best light. If Maha's photos had the same lights/shadows I would choose her photos because they are more interesting
Great job by both of them. Photography isnt just gear or knowledge based, the creativity and style of the photographer play a big part as well
Jessica tryin’ to put emphasis in saying “thank you” to the model hoping she gets it too by the student hahaha 😂
Love how you described her as an “introvert photographer” that’s how I would call myself. This was great to see the two different perspectives. Great video ❤️
I could totally ask Maha out for a photo date ;)))) she's so cute
Jessica, this was one of your best videos. You were working two delightful young ladies, each of whom were quite intelligent in their approach and serious about doing their best. Good luck to all three of you.
Her laugh is contagious 🤣
The student is so pleasant and kind 🥰 really great energy, I feel like even the most camera shy people would feel comfortable being photographed by her
Jessica came across a bit too arrogant and a bit up herself in this video.
Both had some cracking shots, but Maha's B&W photo was fantastic, let's be honest.
Agree! A little? I think way too much.
Yeah I agree too
She knows what she's doing, I didn't find it arrogant at all.
I didn’t find her arrogant at all! She just knows what she’s doing!
My tots exactly, i don't like jessica’s energy
Best advice i get from this video is " if it's weird it's good for a photo", it's true and practical 👌
Defenition of introverted Photographer.... i just saw myself in her the whole time wow, didnt know how this looks to others. I dont know if its good? There are alot of people who said to me "well if you cant speak up its not the right job for you" ,but for me its like i need to get startes and then warm up. Im just more cautios about everything, i dont want to get into personal space right from start.. i
How do i get more self cofidence, guess thats the biggest problem,also not wanting to hurt the other party
Talk to the model like you would any another human being because they are. Be positive (don’t say “that’s not working” or “that looks bad”) just move on to something different.
I think you should start practicing more trying to speak and say more stuff. Little bit at a time you are gonna get better and be less shy
I'm also introverted and have been a professional photographer for 5 years in LA! I think you can even tell your models straight up from the start that you're more introverted and it takes you a little while to warm up - people are open to that kind of transparency! Gradually, photography will become more comfortable and you'll be able to think about that side less and just focus on directing / complimenting the model :)
This is me too 😭😭😭🥺
make sure you form a rapport with the model first thing, just talk to them like you would with a friend and be positive! eventually with experience you'll become way more confident and won't have trouble speaking where you need to!
is anyone not gonna talk about how Maha's life is literally the cutest!
laugh I meant
Am I the only one thinking that Maha is prettier than the model?
you shouldnt bring others down for someone! their all beautiful
you can't really go wrong shooting a good model like that...just add a novice photographer, put the camera in auto... and your good.
The outfit is just not matching the location. I can hardly focus with this combo. I don't know if it's just me, but maybe an 80's home set up or something more urban would match
Hihi,nicetomeetyou
Showing how adjust exposure for the sky and model was a life saver
a HUGE difference is technology. Jessica's camera does a lot of the work for her that a Nikon D3400 won't do for its average user. Still interesting to see the difference!
I lovee Maha’s giggles!!
So cool. When I first started about 45 years ago I did a lot of time-consuming setup, although it was then about 90% a hobby, with about 5% paid and 5% professional and related learning. I worried about the time spent, the film costs, the development time... Every shot had to be a lot more planned. After about 10 years I no longer had concerns as it was much more creative, and the money supported the costs without issue. I started to get a bit of a voice, and realized how far I had to go (and still have to, even decades later).
After another decade of shooting (in the late-90’s to maybe 2010, the challenge became staying creative, and I started focusing mainly on high-end portraiture for wealthy family, estate photos etc using everything from 35mm to medium and large format. The money was good, although I only shot maybe 15 hours a week.
During the last decade plus it has become more about fun and trying new things, and digital cameras have been a major part of that- and especially mirrorless. Most importantly, the tools have progressed so far since the late-80’s. I know people say the gear and tools don’t matter, and while that may be the case for some types of shooters, subjects and styles of photography, I feel that the new post options alone has exploded the creative possibilities. I no longer have to use a bunch of lighting and related gear to craft so heavily during acquisition; and instead, can decide in post where I want to take and tweak things- far beyond what we used to do in the 70’s - 90’s in the dark room.
I feel we are entering a new era of acquisition and post all over again, where any inherent technical or related limitations will no longer be the major issue, but rather, what creative composition, subject and post ideas you have. Most cameras have advanced to the point where lens choices and digital post are the major factors now. For me, this is wonderful, as I have so much I need to explore and learn still, and being able to do this so easily is amazingly engaging and fun- and the fact that there are no longer chemicals and hundreds of pounds of supporting gear, make it that much better!
Loved the fact that you used both equipments. I learn so much from you. Thank you Jessica! 🧡
Came to know Jessica through Brandon Woelfel, she is an amazing photographer. I am slowly taking inspirations from her although I am a Honours student. For me, photography is a gateaway from this pressures of life and love to see the world in a new dimension. I am very grateful that I came to know her and taking some of her ideas for polishing my skills.
Omg that lil tip on adjusting your on camera strobe was literally the perfect piece of info I needed. 😭🙏🏾
You guys are all beautiful!! And I love the models outfit
I think the location is giving senior portraits energy for sure lol. Also, post editing really does make a huge difference in the final result
I love that maha laughs after everything 😂
Jessica's pictures are more natural with soft and subtle color tone . Both women are amazing.
Funny,Thanks
You might have already done something like this before, but I think instead of something like this that could come across as “look how good I am compared to this student” to some, perhaps a challenge along the lines of this but the pro gets an entry level camera with a kit lens, and the student gets a high end camera with a top of the line portrait lens would be a more interesting video.
I didn’t read into it like this, but I can see how many might see this video as quite egotistical.
The major difference I noticed is Jessica’s images were processed and Mahas were SOOC. Interesting choice… as this makes Maha the clear winner, since hers were equally beautiful SOOC. Apply the same processing to both, and Jessica may have been a bit embarrassed.
Jessica I would like to see where you photograph a group photo (Pro. Photogrpaher vs. Fashion stylist perspective) xoxo
Can you please show us how you edited your photos specifically for these shoots? I love how smooth and golden it looks
“I have a touch screen, we’re not that outdated” while I’m sitting here with a 2012 T2i
Its ok i shoot on a T3i currently using an old camera isnt bad as it seems you just have to learn to be happy eith it and work with it rather than being like" ugh i use an old camera"
@@thomasngo2504 I’ve been working with it for the past 4 years I am happy with it, it does everything it needs to do
Jessica you have to do another video on how to edit like you!! It's so much different than Photographers where I'm from and I'm such a newbie I'd love to learn from your editing style
Jessica’s outfit is so cute!!
the black and white photo maha took was amazing!
Why des jessica not hold her lens from below...?That would alleviate some hand problems for sure
This was fun to watch. I've never done portrait shots, but I felt like I learned a lot from watching yall and I want to try it out. To expose the sky and the model, you should expose for both in separate shots and layer them together in photoshop. Use a tripod and a very still model
Maha is like me in photo taking, although I am not as technical but the type of feeling she is going for is what I would have gone for. I did almost do fine art.
Bestexperience
Your work is incredible. I cannot believe you’re self taught! As a beginner, it gives me hope!
You should do some smartphone photography
I’d be doing the same thing as Maha. I’m introverted and don’t take portraits of models. Even tho it sounds fun but I’d rather stick to landscapes, city scapes, urban shots, and candid portraits while in the streets. I’ve had a canon t5i with a couple lenses for 6 years now lol. Photography is dang expensive.
wait till you upgrade to pro bodies and lenses...it ain't fun!
Same here. I'm also an introvert. I've tried to take pictures of people but it was never something outstanding. I feel much more confident shooting landscapes and macro.
Same but im just not into still or just basic portraits , i just need more than that, i am currently experiment with creative portraits where its either a costume, or a model that im gonna mix with a collage later😂
Unlike Sara Dietschy, which requires single Peachy's network to operate, Maha, Sophia, and Jessica has to connect to the separated local networks, which has significant limitations to all operators.