Blond Mummies, Tocharians and Indo-Europeans of China

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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2025

Комментарии • 4 тыс.

  • @Survivethejive
    @Survivethejive  3 года назад +242

    Update Aug 2021: New genetic data leaked from forthcoming paper on Tarim mummies disproves my claim from my video last year that early Tarim mummies were Iranic. It also shows the likely origin of Tocharian in Asia is in the Dzungarian Basin just north of Tarim. The older samples in the new study are from Dzungarian Basin and these samples do appear to be Afanasievo derived and therefore could be the source of Tocharian languages, and if so then the language only moved south into Tarim basin quite late, much later than I thought, but the early Tarim mummies do not appear to be Tocharians or even, as I speculated in my video las year, Iranic speaking Aryans, rather an isolated refugia of ice-age like people predominantly descended from Ancient North Eurasians and West Siberian Hunter-Gatherers. WSHG themselves were 72.5% ANE, 7.5% West European Hunter-Gatherer, and 20% Ancient East Asian.
    We can't say what language these Siberian mammoth hunter-like people of Tarim spoke (not an Indo-European one though), although we know Tocharian and Iranic both entered the Tarim basin region later on. Interesting that the mummies appear to be European in phenotype despite not descending from Indo-European bronze age steppe peoples who are autosomally like modern Europeans.
    Later Tarim mummies like Cherchen man actually probably do have some steppe admixture and could well be Iranic speakers. Tocharian and Iranic speakers of steppe descent entered the Tarim basin from different routes at different times, but the original inhabitants were these ANE descended Siberian people and they mixed with the incoming Indo-Europeans.
    Edit Oct 2021: Here is the full paper www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04052-7
    Here is my live stream on the subject:
    ruclips.net/video/sCRsTDXzMFo/видео.html

    • @societyandhistory9357
      @societyandhistory9357 3 года назад +9

      I am Anmol basnet from Nepal and we are member of that clan but known as khas(chhetry) community in Nepal

    • @nimrodsfall3259
      @nimrodsfall3259 3 года назад +7

      Can you make a new video about this? I would like for someone to point out the actual mummies that have significant ANE geneflow. I have heard that the Cherchen man was one of the mummies that had a large portion of ANE ancestry but maybe that is wrong.

    • @BTSarmy-tz2lu
      @BTSarmy-tz2lu 3 года назад +7

      Hey bro then why you are not talking about brown skin of your yamnaya ancestors haha, because you are too biased about

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  3 года назад +66

      @@BTSarmy-tz2lu I don't have Yamnaya ancestors. Corded Ware did not have brown skin. Yamnaya were not even brown like Indian people, more like Italians

    • @IranAzadLoading
      @IranAzadLoading 3 года назад +13

      Thanks for making Videos on eastern Indo Europeans, especially Sogdians. There was sadly alot of recession after the Mongol invasion.
      Tajiks are very much still resembling Sogdians.

  • @Survivethejive
    @Survivethejive  5 лет назад +493

    I made an error - the blue eyed Yuezhi bust is not actually depicting a Yuezhi. It was made by Yuezhi people and it depicts a Saka Scythian man whom they defeated.

    • @firefly4784
      @firefly4784 5 лет назад +12

      Survive the Jive
      It should be pronounced Rouzhi (月氏)

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  5 лет назад +68

      @@firefly4784 According to who? It isn't a Chinese word - it is East Iranic. Closest living language to it is Ossetian

    • @firefly4784
      @firefly4784 5 лет назад +17

      Survive the Jive
      Yuezhi is obviously a Chinese word! 月 is usually pronounced as Yue but in ancient China, it has two pronunciations and professionals argue it should be pronounced as Rou, the other pronunciation. But a lot of people just keep pronouncing it as Yue.

    • @FatJackedNerd
      @FatJackedNerd 4 года назад +3

      @@Survivethejive
      Jatts and Gujjars are descendents of Indo-Iranic people..
      Kushans are ancestors of Gujjars....
      Kambojas are ancestors of Jatt...

    • @balazskiss985
      @balazskiss985 4 года назад +13

      @@firefly4784 bullshit it means archer, and it sounds jász(yes, yessus, jesus, us=ancestor, so jesus was jász, jüecsi, or yuezhi, but chinese say jüecsi
      íjász=archer in magyar, i live in jász country

  • @rinoamenna
    @rinoamenna 5 лет назад +1316

    creepy how she still looks somewhat pretty even tho shes been a mummy for 3000 years

    • @Bubbles-ss7hc
      @Bubbles-ss7hc 5 лет назад +24

      dayum

    • @rinoamenna
      @rinoamenna 5 лет назад +40

      @Twenty Faces & who cares what you think ? you say that as you dont show ur face lmao

    • @ARMY2014
      @ARMY2014 5 лет назад +46

      @Twenty Faces You're just a child hiding behind a screen, and she doesnt look like a man, her appearance looks very feminine

    • @practicaloccultist231
      @practicaloccultist231 5 лет назад +16

      @Twenty Faces you sound like someone insecure in their own looks 😂

    • @frankmad4225
      @frankmad4225 5 лет назад +22

      you look good, don't listen to idiots, girl.

  • @henrywalker630
    @henrywalker630 5 лет назад +718

    You’d be forgiven for thinking you were watching a BBC4 documentary as far as the production value goes, this is a high quality documentary.

    • @buteos8632
      @buteos8632 5 лет назад +44

      Henry Walker with the plus of no propaganda and some cheering for us!!!😁

    • @jamesmaysflyingwashingmach7459
      @jamesmaysflyingwashingmach7459 5 лет назад +26

      Exactly, he argues his points persuasively with facts, instead of rants and propaganda. This is valuable information and an interesting perspective, not preaching to the choir so to speak

    • @joegill3612
      @joegill3612 5 лет назад +2

      Pity about the noisy music though. Why do these people think they need to put silly sounds on their videos?

    • @dickorange3404
      @dickorange3404 5 лет назад +14

      did you... did you just try to insult the guy? because BBC documentaries are terrible.😂 this was way more informative then anything the British-Brainwashing-Corporation has ever put out.

    • @bawsack69
      @bawsack69 5 лет назад +27

      If it was on the BBC, all the original inhabitants of Europe would be black.

  • @LeChristEstRoi
    @LeChristEstRoi 3 года назад +290

    Imagine being so beautiful that even in a state of mummification you still look attractive!

    • @bamafader4543
      @bamafader4543 3 года назад +3

      i'd hit it

    • @samuu_samuu
      @samuu_samuu 3 года назад +12

      @@bamafader4543 necrophilia much

    • @samuelbonaccorso9969
      @samuelbonaccorso9969 3 года назад +1

      Holy necro humping Wednesday Batman!

    • @ronlionheart1646
      @ronlionheart1646 3 года назад +14

      @@bamafader4543 bruh... she's dead, but I want to somehow make her alive again and ask her how did she die, but again she would hate the modern world.

    • @zektre2059
      @zektre2059 3 года назад +2

      Litterally me. I don't have to imagine that.

  • @junglestar
    @junglestar 5 лет назад +1928

    I’m not white but I wish Europeans would love themselves and their heritage a bit more. So much to be proud of

    • @suziekeuls7582
      @suziekeuls7582 5 лет назад +284

      Ty, I wish that 2. Its a shame European cultures are pushed away in EU. I am worried for the future

    • @TheJasonCombee76
      @TheJasonCombee76 5 лет назад +278

      People all over the world love Europe and European culture and they are non- European.. Don't buy into that SJW white guilty trap.

    • @paolomartini150
      @paolomartini150 5 лет назад +102

      Some do and some do not. Some do too much.

    • @VIDSTORAGE
      @VIDSTORAGE 5 лет назад +273

      We have been brainwashed into self hatred ,not me personally ,I love me and my whiteness , overall from media and state schools. Get whites out of the way and control is much easier after that .

    • @mstrychessboxn3520
      @mstrychessboxn3520 5 лет назад +19

      Africa is the cradle of civilization though!!

  • @Solveiss
    @Solveiss 5 лет назад +903

    Seeing a Berserk reference and a gnome meme seamlessly mixed into such a professional documentary is surreal. Great stuff my dude.

  • @PaganShagger
    @PaganShagger 5 лет назад +513

    It's so refreshing to hear a gentle but authoritative narration of history, something that has been lost in recent decades. You don't shout, you don't speak fast, you don't act condescending, you act like a professor. Thank you for your videos.

    • @beardedbjorn5520
      @beardedbjorn5520 5 лет назад +2

      Yes, but the voice he puts on is a bit annoying though.

    • @cosuinofdeath
      @cosuinofdeath 4 года назад +3

      Daniel Appleton epic history has one of the best narrators

    • @ProtoIndoEuropean88
      @ProtoIndoEuropean88 2 года назад

      it's very easily understood, I'm Portuguese, non english native speaker but I can understand what he says extremely well

    • @lucascoval828
      @lucascoval828 Год назад

      @@beardedbjorn5520
      It's still better than what you get from ethno-spergs.

  • @keigisa
    @keigisa 5 лет назад +420

    I can’t believe the incredible state these mummies have been found in, they are actually quite beautiful. Thanks for sharing!

    • @extratropicalcyclone8567
      @extratropicalcyclone8567 4 года назад +17

      Yeah cold and dry climate can do that, sadly most places with these kinds of climate can't habitable for any civilization, glacial rivers flowing from the himalayas northwards to the tarim basin can create oasis from time to time hence u had ancient kingdoms in these regions.

    • @dejanpantelic3282
      @dejanpantelic3282 4 года назад

      Hi check Lepenski Vir and Vinca culture.Sanskript wos written on old Serbian.Rg Vede is from Serbian.Firs calendar and firs letter and alfabet.Svastika and jing jang is from Lepenski Vir, Vinca culture, Starcevo culture.R1a is Serbian genetik and I2.We are Iliri and first Sleovenik people becouse that everyone understands Serbian language.Thank and if you don't understand something ask free

    • @topg2820
      @topg2820 4 года назад +1

      @@dejanpantelic3282 no, it's the other way around, all that you said proves y'all are from India

    • @wildcard9010
      @wildcard9010 3 года назад

      @@Gigatechi7 your an idiot

    • @nos8141
      @nos8141 3 года назад +1

      @@Gigatechi7 they were small group, nothing more. You are not special. There good look come from east. Not u
      There is group in north of europe. that look like they are from east.
      It is one giant landmass (eurasia), of course some travellers in ancient times from each side got very far.

  • @Survivethejive
    @Survivethejive  5 лет назад +296

    Contents:
    PS: The Tocharian artwork is available on T-shirts and hoodies in the StJ store teespring.com/tocharian-solar-wheels

    • @DudeGuy999
      @DudeGuy999 5 лет назад +18

      My mind is blown once again, very good video 👍

    • @buteos8632
      @buteos8632 5 лет назад

      bruh momentum hehe dito

    • @buteos8632
      @buteos8632 5 лет назад +1

      as a ver thankful and very proud subscriber I was a little heart broken seeing my sweat Lusitânia cuted off screen, but i raised myself and i had a hell of a time! thanks bro 😉

    • @seankessel3867
      @seankessel3867 5 лет назад +9

      Great video man, your production skills are getting really really strong

    • @theRhinsRanger
      @theRhinsRanger 5 лет назад

      Phenomenal video and I have some questions for you about this and also I have an interesting lead for you regarding the mummies should you wish to research it further. I will try to get in contact with you to pass it on.

  • @hamingjiaprojekt7345
    @hamingjiaprojekt7345 5 лет назад +397

    Your channel is very important!

    • @TarebossT
      @TarebossT 5 лет назад +16

      And very Indo-European as well

    • @mk-apache6161
      @mk-apache6161 5 лет назад

      Important to whom?

    • @hamingjiaprojekt7345
      @hamingjiaprojekt7345 5 лет назад +3

      @@mk-apache6161 to all interested in history? Whats your question about mr.?

    • @mk-apache6161
      @mk-apache6161 5 лет назад

      @@hamingjiaprojekt7345 sorry i just disagree with your comment, dont mean to insult your character or offend you in any way

    • @hamingjiaprojekt7345
      @hamingjiaprojekt7345 5 лет назад

      @@mk-apache6161 no problem m8 :)

  • @twolf4764
    @twolf4764 3 года назад +202

    Geologically speaking, the Tarim Basin underwent a massive desertification throughout the millennia. Most recent example is the Lop lake which has now pretty much dried up and a fraction of the size it used to be as little as 100 years ago. The potentially lush lakes and rivers might have been the original point of attraction for the Tocharians hence the burials in the boats.

    • @maxinewarnest894
      @maxinewarnest894 3 года назад +6

      Whites took too many trees out. Desertification. Now everyone's doing it. No point pointing the finger. We all need to do better into the future. Green the deserts.

    • @waterloo32594
      @waterloo32594 3 года назад +36

      @@maxinewarnest894 it was less deforestation and more changing temperatures that lead to desertification. It’s a lot like the Sahara that way. Remember, for the past 10,000 years the world has been coming out of an ice age, and has been heating up.

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 2 года назад +9

      This famous city of 樓蘭 (Loulan) started to decline from fourth century because of the lake drying up. There has been a number of climate irregularities, changing the natural course of the river, since antiquity. Of the three main routes from China proper to Central Asia, access to water was the single most important consideration.
      It's believed that during the ice age, the Tarim Basin was a gigantic inland sea like the Caspian or the Aral Sea. I don't kow where the homeland was for the people who migrated to the Tarim Basin thousand of years ago. Using boats for burials could be coming from an ancestral custom before they reached the Tarim Basin.

    • @alfawolf7125
      @alfawolf7125 2 года назад

      non non non..nevertheless what matters and is their dna.and they could never possible be from the dark people of africa.arabic,or....asian descent..the fair skin asians..have this ton cos they are mixed with the whites that inhabited earth once all over

    • @Mr0rris0
      @Mr0rris0 Год назад

      When I was younger country music was about horses and almost trucks
      These days thanks to Alan Jackson and Kenny Chesney it's all about boats and beaches
      Just sayin erroneous boats pop up..
      It's one of the hallmarks of the end

  • @penapenkki
    @penapenkki 5 лет назад +74

    All the hard work you put into this one clearly shows! This is exactly the type of content that drew me in years ago

  • @HoundofOdin
    @HoundofOdin 5 лет назад +535

    So where do you want to go?
    Proto-Indo-Europeans: *YES.*

    • @updown9697
      @updown9697 4 года назад +2

      @BenkethePirateand have you read one?

    • @manmoy4104
      @manmoy4104 4 года назад

      @Nemesis I mean I see your point but if we can't trust science completely then what should we trust?

    • @aryyancarman705
      @aryyancarman705 4 года назад

      @BenkethePirate yea ofc likely to be stories carried from pie culture,along with some real stories and fiction storiess based on real events

    • @somerandom7672
      @somerandom7672 4 года назад +3

      @Nemesis Science is good. But people pass opinions and theories as science.
      @Rumble Lane Trust in God, in Christ. You can't fully rely on anything else. It's all finite and changing.

    • @cerridianempire1653
      @cerridianempire1653 4 года назад +16

      @khushal Singh based on analyses on european languages ( excluding
      hungarian, estonian, and finnish ) as well as north indian and iranian languages there are unmistakable similarities

  • @mariongranbruheim4090
    @mariongranbruheim4090 5 лет назад +269

    1:59 The trousers resemble viking trousers; the trim has a pattern we still use!

    • @Nista357
      @Nista357 5 лет назад +29

      I really don't want to be biased but this looks like "Slavic patterns" more than "Viking" ones.

    • @Nista357
      @Nista357 5 лет назад +14

      @@jackvancekirkland Well its one of the points. I never said that its the most important part of the video. It was just interesting to me since as soon as I looked at those patterns first thing that came to my mind was "Wow this looks so Slavic" after I watched the video I got to the comments just for fun to see how people reacted to it. So it happened that I stumbled upon this comment which only got me curios since I became unsure if its Slavic or Viking(even though I'm aware that Vikings and Slavs are kinda mixed). So out of my curiosity I opened two tabs and in one I typed "Slavic patterns" and "Viking patterns" in another and I myself was surprised that this pattern had pretty much nothing to do with the results I got for Viking search and Slavic ones gave results immediately so I just commented on that. This detail just caught my attention and besides I heard about this story before.

    • @Nista357
      @Nista357 5 лет назад +5

      @@jackvancekirkland As I said, I'm not being biased.
      VIKING PATTERNS:
      i.pinimg.com/originals/60/9e/86/609e868d4c4025de17612ad24c8aae9c.jpg
      image.shutterstock.com/image-vector/vintage-viking-borders-set-vector-260nw-1157518804.jpg
      cdn3.vectorstock.com/i/1000x1000/87/32/fantasy-vikings-pattern-vector-1598732.jpg
      SLAVIC PATTERNS:
      www.google.com/search?q=slavic+patterns&client=ms-android-huawei&prmd=ivmn&sxsrf=ACYBGNT4jlyInVnLoiPhrxRZPBIpChmIrA:1579689709706&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdjILggpfnAhU2A2MBHSnlAaQQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=360&bih=524#imgrc=gJqjac-DIGLNEM
      www.google.com/search?q=slavic+patterns&client=ms-android-huawei&prmd=ivmn&sxsrf=ACYBGNT4jlyInVnLoiPhrxRZPBIpChmIrA:1579689709706&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdjILggpfnAhU2A2MBHSnlAaQQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=360&bih=524#imgrc=zCDgBJAgJxyaGM
      i.pinimg.com/236x/4a/ce/ac/4aceac6ca7e3045302da76923574d04e--russian-folk-fairy-tales.jpg

    • @danielrodriguez248
      @danielrodriguez248 5 лет назад +14

      VIKINGS went as far as Russia ,that we know if , before these mummies were found a tribe called the Russ tribe giving the name to Russia, maybe there were other lost tribes of Norsemen that strade into the gobe desert, but who kniw the Chinese have hidden all this for decades and all information on this like all other governments hiding the truth

    • @kalashnikov5544
      @kalashnikov5544 5 лет назад +7

      @@danielrodriguez248 Because "wh1tes" have been the only ones who have always opposed the wealthy people at the top. Now, China and Russia will be used to put an end to Amer1ka.
      They got all the trillions of dollars they could out of wh1te Amer1kans sweat and labor, and now the øligãrçh rats want to jump ship.

  • @robertpeters3117
    @robertpeters3117 4 года назад +131

    I visited china in the late 90's. Xinjiang, Qinghai and Gansu provinces(Could not enter Tibet). On the border of the three provinces; My host told me the story of the ghost people who lived in china before all. It was said they were very tall, pale skinned, with light hair and blue/green eyes. They resided by the ghost lake in a great city. They were wiped about long ago and the locals believe that their spirits now haunt the ghost lake.

    • @cetcelpen2451
      @cetcelpen2451 3 года назад +9

      @a they were not indo-europeans.
      ''Tarim people descended entirely from Ancient North Eurasians (ANE), a once-widespread Pleistocene population that had mostly disappeared about 10,000 years ago, after the end of the last ice age.''

    • @egriz4461
      @egriz4461 2 года назад

      Most northern easteren asians are pale skinned so they dont see other Whites as gost it just bullshit

    • @jasrajsandhu1658
      @jasrajsandhu1658 2 года назад

      White worshipping, thank god at least my people had any substantial contact with the scythians (tocharian counterpart) I wonder what would happen if I brag about it to some chinease dude, envy probably

    • @alextillgruber2997
      @alextillgruber2997 2 года назад +11

      @cet celpan
      The indoeuropean were in the big part Ancient North Eurasians too
      So they can be indoeuropean

    • @عليياسر-ك8ف
      @عليياسر-ك8ف 2 года назад +2

      @@alextillgruber2997 These Iranian Scythians invented Buddhism and Hinduism, but they were racists

  • @MrAwrsomeness
    @MrAwrsomeness 5 лет назад +362

    It's a tragedy you don't get more views, especially with people out there who make lazy blogs and make thousands

    • @MrAwrsomeness
      @MrAwrsomeness 5 лет назад +2

      @@UnleashedOdinV2 people in general

    • @3mundi
      @3mundi 5 лет назад +1

      Welcome to The Age of Decadence

    • @yuanruichen2564
      @yuanruichen2564 5 лет назад

      @Repeat After Me: Who made the THOTs? The thirsty men.

    • @maxm3522
      @maxm3522 5 лет назад +3

      Mindless entertainment will always appeal to a larger slice of humanity than thought provoking intellectualism ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn 5 лет назад

      In today's society you have way more low IQ individuals than peoples with high or at least upper middle IQ and majority with low IQ naturally watch themes which they can understand and this ain't one of them

  • @sanchoodell6789
    @sanchoodell6789 5 лет назад +109

    I first remember learning of the Tocharians (or 'Mummie people') around 20 odd years ago in 1999 or 1998 when a programme aired on Channel 4. It was narrated by Sean Barrett. It showed a team of archeologists lead by American sinologist Victor Maire of Penn State University on expedition in Xinjiang Province investigating and gathering more info on these caucasian mummies. Totally aw struck by it. Also remember reading of a 'decoded' indo-European language discovered in western China in the 1930s in David Crystal's book 'Language' which actually got me interested in languages as a whole. Great video Jive. Keep up the good work.

    • @firefly4784
      @firefly4784 5 лет назад +10

      Chinese history is a process of integrating all kinds of people including Caucasian people. In Tang Dynasty, lots of foreign generals and officials including Turkic, Iranian, Uyghur, Sogdian, etc. Uyghur has privileges in Tang Capital Chang’an. A lot of Sogdians were merchants and nine clans of them changed to Chinese last names. So if you see those last names, their ancestors could be Sogdian. Tang territories extended to Central Asia and our greatest poet in Tang Dynasty was born by the Baikul River. His first name is Bai, means white. Then he gave himself a middle name, Taibai, means too white. I suspect he is Russian or mixed with Russian and he drank a lot.
      In Yuan Dynasty, lots of Arabic and Jewish in the nowadays east coastal region being officials and merchants. and Quanzhou was the world’s largest port and is full of Christian churches, Jewish churches, and Muslim mosques. Actually, our greatest navigator Zheng He was an Arab. His dad and grandfather were officials in Today’s Yunnan province in Southerst China. His original last name was Ma, the Chinese version of Muhammad. Lots of Hui Muslim in China last name is Ma. They are still the biggest Muslim ethnicity in China. Later, lots of Manchurians changed last names to Chinese last names.
      Actually, all my uncles and my dad have curly hair and tall noses. Some of my uncles are Caucasian looking. My dad is the darkest in skin color. My ancestors must have been mixed with other ethnicities. But I don’t look like Caucasian.
      There is hardly any pure Han Chinese. Hakka people might be the purest Han Chinese, as they moved away from Yellow River regions and kept going South to avoid multiple invasions by Northern nomads. They probably get to breed among themselves mostly.

  • @MegaMar20
    @MegaMar20 5 лет назад +172

    Great video essay. The massacre bit was disturbing. Romans, Greeks and Chinese have always looked down upon surrounding cultures, but when it comes to systematic state sponsored cruelty, they have always outdone the so-called "barbarians".

    • @xanshen9011
      @xanshen9011 3 года назад +32

      Just look at what the Romans did to the Celtic tribes of France.

    • @xanshen9011
      @xanshen9011 2 года назад +9

      @enver pasha Pyramids? You mean kurgans? Also funny how you say old “turks” had light colored hair yet turks of anatolia look middle eastern

    • @عليياسر-ك8ف
      @عليياسر-ك8ف 2 года назад +4

      @@xanshen9011 Damn the Romans, we have black hair and skin like the Arabs. Are we from the Middle East? We are the sons of the blessed Esau

    • @centurionl
      @centurionl 2 года назад

      @@xanshen9011 because the turks are intermixed with arabs

    • @John-nb6ep
      @John-nb6ep 2 года назад +4

      @@xanshen9011 The celts don't deserve any empathy.

  • @jeffrutt5292
    @jeffrutt5292 4 года назад +72

    I love how European and oriental people share a ancient past together. Both peoples influenced each other and have influenced the world in more ways than most humans can even imagine. Also I love this narrator. Very smooth voice.

  • @Cumulo9
    @Cumulo9 5 лет назад +108

    Speaking of genocide, you must not forgot Mongols. They pretty much destroyed all major cities in Central Asia. so, no matter many Tocharians remained in Medieval period, they were almost all killed after Mongols. And also other IE people such as Greeks (lots of them in Alexendria, or Merv, capital of that east persian province) were genocided. In fact, Khorasan had lots of Greeks even BEFORE Macedonian conquest, because many Greeks were previously deported there by Persians in order to settle this frontier region. Roman captives were also sent to Merv by the Persians.

    • @Cumulo9
      @Cumulo9 4 года назад +20

      @NotJo Genghis Khan even if he really had red hair and green eyes, didn't mean he was white. Google it, there are Mongolians even today who have red hair and light eyes, yet facial featues are totally Asian. It's possible Genghis Khan got the hair and eyes from Schytians but his face and his character (lack of empathy) must be typically North Asian

    • @Cumulo9
      @Cumulo9 4 года назад +2

      @NotJo speculation what? you're the one speculating. Rashid Al Din never said he was "white", only that he had red hair and green eyes, which i explained, didn't mean Genghis was white.

    • @hyperborea9289
      @hyperborea9289 3 года назад +5

      @@Cumulo9 Mongols are mixed they mixed along time ago with the scythians

    • @18890426
      @18890426 3 года назад +1

      Every time I see White people whining about things like "Genesis Khan was white!!" I always chuckle, it clearly shows their inferiority complex!

    • @intergalacticmantv
      @intergalacticmantv 3 года назад +11

      Green eyes and red hair are not specific to Indo-Europeans. All over the world there are people with green eyes and red hair with 0% European/Caucasoid ancestry. Personality is not something related to the ancestry as well.

  • @MrFredstt
    @MrFredstt 5 лет назад +503

    They won't talk about this in school or the msm

    • @vinrusso821
      @vinrusso821 5 лет назад +59

      They used to. Natinal Geographic had a 2 hour documentery about the "White Mummies of the Tarin Basin". Sadly in the late 1800's Swedish archeologist documented they were finding thousands of mummies, but thought they were more recent and didnt bother.

    • @anon2034
      @anon2034 5 лет назад +38

      @@vinrusso821 Swedes cucked again!

    • @Chelsea-wd4ec
      @Chelsea-wd4ec 5 лет назад +4

      Do you have source for the documentary?

    • @ominous-omnipresent-they
      @ominous-omnipresent-they 5 лет назад +29

      They also don't teach much about science neither, particularly in the south. To be honest, it's impossible for children to learn everything about human history during their finite years in school, so I don't expect them to learn this.

    • @lotylelemon8617
      @lotylelemon8617 5 лет назад +3

      Join the club we didnt hear nothing about us or this either honey so

  • @政斌-x8k
    @政斌-x8k 5 лет назад +135

    This shouldn't be surprising to anyone since Europe is just a country away from China.

    • @zekun4741
      @zekun4741 5 лет назад +49

      Finland is separated from Mongolia by only one country

    • @harrytee7159
      @harrytee7159 5 лет назад +2

      Exactly

    • @nmarbletoe8210
      @nmarbletoe8210 5 лет назад +71

      Europe and China are just a steppe away

    • @kingdomjudah900
      @kingdomjudah900 5 лет назад +5

      Kim Jong Nuke this is just fancy history for white people.
      They are called CAUCASIAN and are excited they found 400 mummy’s in Asia lol
      It’s obvious they were either intermixing

    • @browny8574
      @browny8574 4 года назад +1

      they are turanian tribes

  • @lharcum2010
    @lharcum2010 4 года назад +52

    This was very informative! Thank you for making this. I’m not Caucasian in any sense but I wish that important history like this was shared more often. The more we know about each other the better we’ll understand everyone.

    • @عليياسر-ك8ف
      @عليياسر-ك8ف 2 года назад

      These are your Scythian brothers, and they are from Iran, and the Caucasians are just Scythian slaves

    • @Waldgxnger
      @Waldgxnger 11 месяцев назад

      caucasians refer to the Yamnaya stemming peoples. that includes the modern europeans and iranians. dont know what you are on about@@عليياسر-ك8ف

    • @celestialblue7229
      @celestialblue7229 4 месяца назад

      @@عليياسر-ك8ف They look Celtic with all of that plaid.

  • @carnivoreRon
    @carnivoreRon 5 лет назад +31

    Thank you for providing such good information. Please continue making these videos. Facts are more important than ideology.

  • @gerard7817
    @gerard7817 5 лет назад +33

    Was totally ignorant of this region until now, fascinating as usual

    • @gerard7817
      @gerard7817 5 лет назад

      @_ Leethal_ thanks,you're the second one to tell me that. Maybe I'll be Vishnu

    • @gerard7817
      @gerard7817 5 лет назад

      @_ Leethal_ I changed it

    • @gerard7817
      @gerard7817 5 лет назад

      @_ Leethal_ This Indian guy told me I should be ashamed of myself

  • @russelljt3525
    @russelljt3525 5 лет назад +18

    Easily the best video I’ve seen on this topic

  • @menta3625
    @menta3625 4 года назад +44

    In Hungary, we were taught that our ancestors ( the Huns ) came from China, and some of them went to India and Persia :))

    • @nsdtgabe4082
      @nsdtgabe4082 4 года назад +7

      Yeah the magyars

    • @Mastakilla91
      @Mastakilla91 4 года назад +28

      truth be told 90% of your ancestors were europeans which is very evident since you look like other central europeans.

    • @FirstLast-hz8ut
      @FirstLast-hz8ut 4 года назад +5

      Hmm... The Tocharians did invade India. My ancestors were said to live in Central Asia and could be Saka, Tocharians or Kushans.

    • @nsdtgabe4082
      @nsdtgabe4082 4 года назад +2

      @@FirstLast-hz8ut the tocharians never invaded india ur thinking of the turks

    • @FirstLast-hz8ut
      @FirstLast-hz8ut 4 года назад +5

      @@nsdtgabe4082 Nope. The Kushans were Iranian Tocharians.

  • @Hajduk-Kralj
    @Hajduk-Kralj 5 лет назад +396

    I want to see white college kids tearing off trousers screaming "That's my culture!"

    • @valentincavazzos4420
      @valentincavazzos4420 4 года назад +20

      Look they are a long lost extinct race that's not necessarily white or asian

    • @jay5775
      @jay5775 4 года назад +109

      @@valentincavazzos4420 Oh really... where do you get this idea? All the "Caucasian" people in this video, including the ones you are referring to here, are ultimately descended from a group of people academics call the Yamnaya. Before political correctness took hold they were called Proto-Indo-Europeans (PIE) and originated on the Pontic Steppe in prehistoric times. They were white Caucasians. Virtually all modern Europeans today are also descended from these people, along with Ancient Anatolians and Western Hunter Gatherers (WHG). Modern Euros are mix of all three of these with the PIE being dominate.

    • @umageddon
      @umageddon 4 года назад +48

      jay5775 before PC culture took over they were called the Arayns and one of their symbols was the swastika.
      Indo-European is the PC term

    • @jay5775
      @jay5775 4 года назад +13

      @@umageddon Yes you are basically correct, however the term "PC" is ever changing as you probably know. IE used to be the PC term but now even that is not PC enough. I'm guessing they didn't like that Indo-European actually had the word "European" in it if you know what I mean. If you check all the current DNA studies (and other articles on this subject) you find that they prefer the term Yamnaya. PIE or even Aryan is fine for me but I guess the new term is more palatable for the pathetic PC types.

    • @daltonmiller5590
      @daltonmiller5590 4 года назад +2

      @Ario How so? I just googled it and every article points to it originating in China and being popularized with Taoism

  • @SlimeEarts
    @SlimeEarts 5 лет назад +243

    We must preserve our European history and culture !

    • @c-b.s.7624
      @c-b.s.7624 5 лет назад +25

      Get an AK-47, a dozen full ammo boxes and start preserving "our European history and culture".

    • @SlimeEarts
      @SlimeEarts 5 лет назад +20

      Niem Fpmak - Nied Fpmak I agree but we must also have plenty of children

    • @feedYOURchildrenKORN
      @feedYOURchildrenKORN 5 лет назад +14

      @Eric W. Not necessarily true. You just might not be looking in the right places. And, you probably hear of and see the promiscuous, degenerate ones more often the good ones. Similar to seeing only bad things on the news.

    • @feedYOURchildrenKORN
      @feedYOURchildrenKORN 5 лет назад +15

      @Eric W. I haven't left the US, so I don't know what other places are really like. I do agree with you overall. Divorce rates are shamefully high, casual sex is a cancer on society, porn is a terminal cancer on society, etc. Yet, I think society may be in the midst of a new turn-around. I think society is slowly changing, rejecting modernity and degeneracy, and perhaps, becoming more traditional and conservative. I think the switch is already taking place in Gen Z. The direction society has taken is unsustainable and doomed to fail. I have hope for the future. White men and women will wake up, we already are. We must do what we can to change our nations for the better.
      I'm going to have a (white) daughter in August. Her father and I will be doing what we can to raise her white-positive, pro-west, racially conscious, and morally upright. (Hoping for the best on that one.) Sometimes, it seems like all I can do, but it's better than nothing. If more whites would do this, we'd be on the right track. Maybe there's something we can do in our local governments, if possible. The west didn't fall into degeneracy over night, and it won't come out of it over night either.

    • @feedYOURchildrenKORN
      @feedYOURchildrenKORN 5 лет назад +13

      @Eric W. Racial consciousness would unite us and give us a greater reason to preserve our culture and history. If white people don't think and act as part of a racial group, we'll be doomed. Everybody else on the planet thinks in these terms, that's why they aren't divided and subverted to the extent white people have been. I don't think it's a coincidence that our moral compass has been thrown off at the same time our racial identity and homelands have been lost. Racial consciousness, identity, culture, nation, and morality are all connected.
      Wouldn't European paganism be closer related to us than Buddhism? I mean, Buddhism and the Buddha came about wayyyyy after Indo-Europeans became distinct groups, no? The Buddha wasn't white or living in Europe. And isn't our view of marriage and sex more in line with Christianity than Buddhism?

  • @ethanparker4309
    @ethanparker4309 4 года назад +74

    Ancient European culture is so pretty, art depictions look so graceful.

    • @zagortenay33
      @zagortenay33 6 месяцев назад +1

      They are not European.

    • @ethanparker4309
      @ethanparker4309 6 месяцев назад

      @@zagortenay33 explain

    • @celestialblue7229
      @celestialblue7229 4 месяца назад

      @@zagortenay33 I think they are, they look Celtic to me.

    • @Retetop
      @Retetop 4 месяца назад

      @@zagortenay33 They are

  • @danielporter8588
    @danielporter8588 4 года назад +38

    This blew my mind. Their bodies were so well preserved. I get chills thinking about it.

  • @magiccarpet6230
    @magiccarpet6230 5 лет назад +132

    Good info. I'm not of European ancestry but I enjoy your channel.

    • @CanMan-pd9vh
      @CanMan-pd9vh 5 лет назад +32

      It's all good , I'm white and watch videos of other people like just before this one I watched a Massaman video about the Koi san of Africa.

    • @hugoguzman4985
      @hugoguzman4985 5 лет назад +6

      This, I'm Hispanic, but these are some of the best history videos on RUclips.

    • @Ravishrex1
      @Ravishrex1 5 лет назад +1

      @@CanMan-pd9vh the original people of southern Africa

    • @maxlawton2754
      @maxlawton2754 5 лет назад +1

      TT central and South Americans tend to have a lot of native dna; Still partly descended from Europeans though.

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn 5 лет назад +4

      If you don't have nothing in common with Europeans you must live in Africa and none of your ancestors ever lived outside of Africa otherwise I wouldn't be so sure

  • @cryforthemoon
    @cryforthemoon 5 лет назад +69

    0:50 Loulan Beauty has some incredible eyelashes

    • @truth135
      @truth135 4 года назад +21

      Compare her to the mongoloid burial 20 seconds later. Literally elves and orcs.

    • @nos8141
      @nos8141 3 года назад +3

      @@truth135 one still has eyelid and Much More preserved differently...the reconstruction of xin appearance is completely normal.
      childish comment

  • @PeteV80
    @PeteV80 5 лет назад +11

    Production quality getting very good. Excellent vid.

  • @elcesar999
    @elcesar999 Год назад +38

    I'm Colombian but for me Central Asia is magical. Since a child this region always captivated my attention 🎉 Iran, Afghanistan,Armenia,georgia, Uzbekistan. Punjab region some Pakistan etc to me feels magical and nostalgic somehow. Beautiful to use the internet for this knowledge. Love y'all

    • @adamoneil5317
      @adamoneil5317 Год назад +9

      Same here...I feel like this region is home to many long forgotten civilizations. It's a very strange and interesting place.

    • @jerrycurrier4645
      @jerrycurrier4645 Год назад +1

      I am as well! The history is amazing. I can't get enough lol.

    • @elcesar999
      @elcesar999 Год назад +1

      @@jerrycurrier4645 let's make a plan and a trip my dude

    • @djprincegrandmasteryrjdalo2905
      @djprincegrandmasteryrjdalo2905 Год назад +1

      Oh shit I never thought I would see a Colombian around here, what department are you from?

    • @elcesar999
      @elcesar999 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@djprincegrandmasteryrjdalo2905 born in MEDELLIN, lived a lil in San andres and been in the US since 99

  • @paradigmarson9586
    @paradigmarson9586 5 лет назад +15

    Tom's voice re-enchants the world with the spirit of ethnos.

  • @akcorbel
    @akcorbel 5 лет назад +84

    7:50 6 fingers and 6 toes is really interesting because Goliath from the Old Testament is said to also have the same features.

    • @CourtesyPhone
      @CourtesyPhone 5 лет назад +19

      Not just that but this type of legend is found universally around the world

    • @akcorbel
      @akcorbel 5 лет назад +4

      Define Divine hmmm very interesting I’ll have to do some more research on this!

    • @stellarjayatkins4749
      @stellarjayatkins4749 5 лет назад +24

      I have a niece who was born with 12 fingers and 12 toes. (6 on each hand and foot) This is the first time I’ve heard historical reference to it, and I’m intrigued.

    • @jeffebdy
      @jeffebdy 5 лет назад +17

      Several "giant" skeletons found in burial mounds mostly in the Ohio River valley in the USA (6-9 foot on average) were red haired, had 6 fingers and toes & some with double rows of teeth. Most were discovered in the late 1880's & apparently the Smithsonian has the skeletons

    • @bintamirfreeland4159
      @bintamirfreeland4159 5 лет назад +3

      Thought I was the only one thinking Philistines or Phoenicians

  • @BarleyFields
    @BarleyFields 5 лет назад +21

    Wu Lad, fantastic stuff as ever STJ!

  • @philliphayden2727
    @philliphayden2727 3 года назад +8

    Thank you for all of your research, I didn't know of the Tocharians until today. I've been trying to catch up to your timeline since I happened upon you a couple of weeks ago. Great work, especially the bit where you get the commenters to brawl without even trying!

  • @Spitamenes007
    @Spitamenes007 4 года назад +41

    They are my ancestors !!! I am Tajik . An ethnic eastern Iranic group that has been living in the region for over 3,000 years . The ancestors of the Tajiks are the sogdians, bactrians and khawarezmians . There is historical records from the Greeks , Indians , Persians and even the Chinese themselves of Caucasian sogdians living in that region . I think we are the only indigenous cauacasian people living in China

    • @Incubus1161
      @Incubus1161 4 года назад +3

      It's not like all tajiks are just an indigenous group in China. There's literally a tajik country called Tajikistan.

    • @pjshr5313
      @pjshr5313 4 года назад +4

      @@Incubus1161 they are indigenous ok China, their kingdom was Khotan (in tarim basin)

    • @wolsky25
      @wolsky25 4 года назад +1

      Stop lying, Tocharian belongs to the western branch of Indo-European languages

    • @matztz_4560
      @matztz_4560 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@wolsky25 he said he descend from the sogdians not from the tocharians

    • @Thorsssssss
      @Thorsssssss 5 месяцев назад +2

      We wuzZ tocharian and sheitt

  • @vallgron
    @vallgron 5 лет назад +177

    When I was visiting Japan this African American guy shouted at me and my girlfriend "Heyyyy white people yall get everywhere" guess he was right

    • @luisromanlegionaire
      @luisromanlegionaire 5 лет назад +33

      He didnt do to bad himself lol

    • @anonrandom7765
      @anonrandom7765 5 лет назад +63

      Well, we've also been to the moon. Russians, Germans, and Americans, all people of White European stock are the progenitors of human space flight.

    • @vallgron
      @vallgron 5 лет назад +4

      @@des4719 I did shout back says the American

    • @doggk
      @doggk 5 лет назад +2

      @@anonrandom7765 WITH PLUNDERED ASIAN, AMERICAN (the real America not Babylone😉), AFRICAN MONEY, BLOOD AND RECOURCES you still got as heritage of your ancestors, Isn't that so ? 😘

    • @doggk
      @doggk 5 лет назад +9

      @@graiant Pure Nonsense bro.. The truth isn't in your white history books.. Never asked yourself what history would look like if every race on earth would have been allowed to write their version of history and be considerated as equal with white history ? 😒
      Black people went to India.. They went to Australia... They even went to Europe before everyone else.. In that time no one lived in Europe because it was too cold there and unstable.. And lol the name Europe comes from An African Queen who saved the rest of what was left of whites after the Black vs white africans war killed 95% of whites.. That queen that ordered to stop the massacre and made the rest of the white prisoners.. She was known to be humble, so she saved the rest of these whites by casting them out of Africa to the Mountains of Caucasia as punishment and last chance for them to make it better.. Where whites spreaded themselves and stopped indentifying themselves as Africans and called themselves white Caucasians, they later spreaded themselves in West-, East- Europe and Eurasia.. And gave the name "Europa" to their continent in tribute of that black African Queen who saved them from a Total extinction..
      That Greek mythology version of Queen Europa is pure bullshit invented by whites to erase the true story.. Out of shame that Black people in fact are their true closest brothers and that the queen was black.. Africa has another name for Africans or other races.. But because whites dominated the world, they wrote the history based on their image and their words.. They gave their names to continents.. etc.etc.. without asking the opinion of anybody..

  • @kariannecrysler640
    @kariannecrysler640 2 года назад +4

    This was the most informative compilation on the subject that I have found on RUclips and I wish to thank you for the time and effort to create it. I look forward to seeing more of your videos! 😊

  • @namenameson9065
    @namenameson9065 4 года назад +25

    So good to see a real history program for once. The other day I saw a BBC production that had a crude sketch of a 4000 year old hairy ape-man weilding a bow. I wonder WHO allowed that to happen?

    • @maxinewarnest894
      @maxinewarnest894 3 года назад +1

      The English? They often like to deny that they are Germanic Celts mixed with a dash of Roman blood.

  • @thepeter3116
    @thepeter3116 5 лет назад +33

    This is your best video. 10/10

  • @mtosta2861
    @mtosta2861 5 лет назад +117

    Whenever I tell people that the so called “Middle East”, North Africa and North East Asia are all Aryan homelands, I’m either dismissed as a nut or labeled racist. Can’t even use the word Aryan (the “A” word?) without triggering people...

    • @VitorEmanuelOliver
      @VitorEmanuelOliver 5 лет назад +16

      m tosta except they’re not

    • @mtosta2861
      @mtosta2861 5 лет назад +8

      Victor, Please elaborate your dispute of the genetic/archeological evidence of Aryans not originating from the Middle East and spreading out...

    • @mtosta2861
      @mtosta2861 5 лет назад +14

      Eric, I sort of get why some Indians do this- I suppose as a form of nationalism &/or Anti British sentiments, etc. Be that as it may, Vedic culture is Aryan, and plenty of Aryan DNA has spread through India. They are part indo-European wether they like it or not...

    • @mtosta2861
      @mtosta2861 5 лет назад +3

      Amanda C. They are certainly a mix of Aryan, African and south Asian. (Island chain I believe) That ratio differs of course, in different parts of India. One is most likely to see many more blue eyed &/or red haired Indians in the north, as per migration of ancient populations, etc.
      BTW, “Dravidian” just means, “people of the coast” (“dravata” I believe) they also have at least some Aryan ancestry, and is not the “pure Indian” some portray it to be as some sort of dichotomy thing. IOW, one can be “pro-India- without resorting to some anti-Aryan slant, that in reality, is part of who they are genetically and culturally...

    • @sakogekchyan7366
      @sakogekchyan7366 5 лет назад +14

      m tosta
      Yes those parts of the Middle East such as Iran, Afghanistan and even Anatolia with the Hittites and of coarse us Armenians. Perhaps there are a few areas I’m missing. But the ancient Middle East was predominantly made up of Semitic speaking peoples.

  • @MagusMagnus
    @MagusMagnus 5 лет назад +48

    So sad to see how indo-Iranians were extincted in central Asia!
    western branch (Europeans) survived due to not having natural enemies in Europe like Asiatic or Semitic people!

    • @Chelsea-wd4ec
      @Chelsea-wd4ec 5 лет назад +10

      While the the original indo iranians don't exist anymore but they live on (culturally and somewhat genetically) amongst north indians, dardic peoples and of course the pamiri tajiks.

    • @Chelsea-wd4ec
      @Chelsea-wd4ec 5 лет назад +1

      and them as well :)

    • @bakaheibaka
      @bakaheibaka 5 лет назад +5

      Modern iranians are just assimilated semites. Most of your haplogroup is J and not r1a

    • @C.A.P.9
      @C.A.P.9 5 лет назад +2

      My girlfriend is Persian. And they look like Europeans and are white. Many persians don't believe they're persians because they are so called to white.

    • @ColombianoSuperior
      @ColombianoSuperior 5 лет назад +4

      Charles Alexander Plat There is an ambiguous definition of “white”. Technically, Persians are caucasians as well. 🤔

  • @zektre2059
    @zektre2059 3 года назад +5

    I'm so happy I found this channel. Makes absolute sense.

  • @eliyartursun
    @eliyartursun 4 года назад +10

    I knew this history before, now you have brought this Interesting research on RUclips, thank you! i am originally from that Tarim basin, everyone told me that i was a Slavic or English when i was in mainland China.

  • @moesypittounikos
    @moesypittounikos 4 года назад +90

    Imagine putting on a 3000 year old pair of trousers!

    • @TheMeloettaful
      @TheMeloettaful 4 года назад +5

      I imagine those trousers would almost immediately disintegrate into tiny tatters in seconds lol 😂!

    • @peternagy6067
      @peternagy6067 3 года назад +1

      They are selling the same design on the internet

  • @PatheticHero
    @PatheticHero 4 года назад +25

    I read about this in Archeology Magazine back in about 1996? The mummies were tall, caucasoid and blond or red haired. As I recall most were found in the Takla Makan desert in western China not to far from TIen Shan, mountains in the Himalayas. I got the impression they found tartan plaid-like wool clothes buried with the mummies.

    • @francesconappa4162
      @francesconappa4162 8 месяцев назад

      The uyghurs are mixed Blood indoeuropeans and mongoloids

    • @celestialblue7229
      @celestialblue7229 4 месяца назад +1

      @@francesconappa4162 Those mummies, look Caucasoid, not at all like Mongoloid.

    • @francesconappa4162
      @francesconappa4162 4 месяца назад

      @@celestialblue7229 the mummies Is from thousands Years ago but today are mixed race with asiatic people Sorry for my english

  • @shuhewa
    @shuhewa 4 года назад +79

    One thing to add, there are a few loan words in Chinese that are from Tocharian.
    China does not recognize that these mummies are completely rumours. They have been exhibited in some big cities in China and appeared in Western documentaries in the last century. The Tocharians are closely related to the ancient Chinese rule in the Western Regions, the two sides have a lot of political, economic and cultural exchanges.

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 3 года назад +12

      Yes, and there are more Chinese loan words in tocharian.

    • @shuhewa
      @shuhewa 3 года назад +7

      @@hwasiaqhan8923 我靠,这还能看到自己人,印欧人研究还挺有意思,可惜咱们国内没有一个这样科普汉藏人研究的,还挺有兴趣的,但是这行感觉门槛不低。

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 3 года назад +3

      @@shuhewa 因为中华民族不喜欢提太多关于汉族的事

    • @shuhewa
      @shuhewa 3 года назад +3

      @@hwasiaqhan8923 不会的,汉藏人包含了大量的民族

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 3 года назад +5

      @@shuhewa 每个民族都包含着大量的民族,党怕提汉族会唤醒汉族民族主义意识,所以建国以来拼命打压,现在基本上没几个汉人认同自己是汉族

  • @Surtur99
    @Surtur99 5 лет назад +144

    14:39 Damnit lads...
    He got us again

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  5 лет назад +70

      Bloomin' gnomed ya again ya gnobheads

    • @Surtur99
      @Surtur99 5 лет назад +27

      @@Survivethejive *Is evaporated from existance by the pure humiliation*

  • @occidentadvocate.9759
    @occidentadvocate.9759 3 года назад +17

    10 year ago i heard a White man in my Gym talking to a Pakistani youth in his language? Week later i got talking to the man. He told me he was from Afghanistan. He was a tall well built fellow. European looking and he had blue eyes. I was amazed.

    • @rener44
      @rener44 6 месяцев назад

      Many Russians stayed in Afghanistan after the war. Mixed in with the afghans

  • @ellen4956
    @ellen4956 3 года назад +35

    I started studying everything I could find about these Tarim Basin mummies in the 90s, and still follow what I can find about them. It was not all desert then, but woodland around the edges where the rivers were and the area of the cemetery with small boats was in a wooded area. I have notes somewhere (I will find them) about the place-names and how those resembled words from Old Danish. There was a word for a river there that was the same name for a river in Denmark or Sweden (can't remember) and a word for hat, that was also used to mean roof that was similar. They came there with carts and horses. Over the years a lot of the original old research was "lost" by the Chinese government. and some of the textiles and mummies are also gone now. There was one buried with stacks of felt hats in various colors. There was a baby with a vivid blue felt hat. There were plaid garments. It's difficult to even find pictures of those now.

    • @عابرسبيلالجزائري
      @عابرسبيلالجزائري Год назад +1

      I do not think that they are Europeans, but I almost think that they are the ancestors of the Tajik people, the Iranians and the Afghan Pashtuns

    • @EchoLog
      @EchoLog Год назад +1

      I could be seeing patterns where there aren't any but; there's a Finnish word with a T, an R, and either a K or H in that order.. I wish I was further along in my Finnish studies to remember it.
      But it means to endure cold weather, or to be capable to be comfortable in the cold.
      Turks, Tocharians, this Uralic word...
      The Eurasian steppe....
      ... anyway

    • @GregCorrin
      @GregCorrin Год назад

      All of those peoples are Indo-Europeans are they not?@@عابرسبيلالجزائري

    • @presidentmorsi4677
      @presidentmorsi4677 11 месяцев назад

      did you ever find those notes?

    • @celestialblue7229
      @celestialblue7229 4 месяца назад

      @@عابرسبيلالجزائري They definitely look Celtic to me.

  • @francoisleung9330
    @francoisleung9330 3 года назад +8

    Great video, there are still Caucasians in China, some with blond hair and blue eyes, few people are skeptical when i talk about it, with migrations over thousands of years everything is possible. About 30 years ago i read a book: "Dans la peau d'un Chinois", wrote by a French man who entered China in the early 80's, he was a languages graduate and spoke Chinese. His fake papers identified him as one one of the white minorities, he visited many parts of China, worked and married a Chinese woman. If i remember well, he spent about 10 years in China before returning to France with his wife. Asians migrated to America during prehistoric times, Polynesians migrated to islands in the pacific, Madagascar was first inhabited by people from South East Asia, they are known as Merinas, their language is similar to Indonesian. It's really fascinating how far ancient people traveled without modern transportation, they kept moving to survive and settle where it's suitable to live.

  • @octopusknight3248
    @octopusknight3248 5 лет назад +241

    We waz Changs.

    • @dantesguide9574
      @dantesguide9574 4 года назад +17

      😆

    • @gronizherz3603
      @gronizherz3603 4 года назад +6

      What would be the title of an emperor or a king in those places? Necessary information for meme purposes!
      (Shah? Khan? Huangdi?)

    • @scumbagjesus999
      @scumbagjesus999 4 года назад +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @mrsoshadabaadman
      @mrsoshadabaadman 4 года назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @gronizherz3603
      @gronizherz3603 4 года назад

      @Loki III I meant in that language specifically. For instance "king" isn't "king" in every language.

  • @drraoulmclaughlin7423
    @drraoulmclaughlin7423 5 лет назад +30

    Brilliant Documentary Tom. I wonder how much environmental deterioration there has been in the Tarim? The Han texts suggest a more populous region. Abandoned ancient sites near Cherchen and Loulan were buried in sand-drifts caused by increased aridity (c. AD 400).

    • @drraoulmclaughlin7423
      @drraoulmclaughlin7423 5 лет назад +6

      Perhaps the ancestors of those Europoid people entered a land that was more verdant, but deteriorated over the centuries...

    • @anthropologicalminds2855
      @anthropologicalminds2855 5 лет назад +1

      Probably not much but there was agriculture in the area though it was limited. If your curious, this wiki page is a good place to start. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpan_water_system

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  5 лет назад +10

      @@drraoulmclaughlin7423 I hadn't considered that but it would explain it since the silk road didn't exist in the bronze age. On the other hand, their diets and lung disease indicate a very harsh environment

    • @CaseySmart-fz5op
      @CaseySmart-fz5op 5 лет назад +2

      @@Survivethejive you might look at the analogous arcs of the Archea, Chacoan, Fremont, and Anasazi people of the American southwest. Dendrochronology shows a trend in regional climate change that is well represented by the immigration, civilization, and eventual collapse of cultures all through the area. Some recent research shows lung conditions having a part to play as the air quality fell.
      I have a completely unresearchable theory that they may have been effected by Valley Fever, a fungal problem that modern urbanization in arid deserts has catalyzed.

    • @freya6766
      @freya6766 5 лет назад

      I was thinking the same thing.

  • @Metetron
    @Metetron 5 лет назад +25

    This was the most educational video I've seen in a very long time.

  • @olgierdogden3893
    @olgierdogden3893 4 года назад +2

    Finally, a thinking person’s video. Thankyou very much. I think next time I’ll prepare myself for a normal and not a short lived attention span video.

  • @Sarke2
    @Sarke2 5 лет назад +59

    I was always amazed by Tarim mummies and this region of the world, i think it is crucial to understand our migrations and our ancient heritage, i think Chinese culture is a lot influenced by this how they will call western barbarians. It is fascinating how this mummies are well preserved thanks to sand and climate. I cannot totally agree that this peoples were mostly massacred by Chinese, many other peoples passed through this region before and after the Chinese, for a long time parts of Tarim basin were administred by Chinese and still this people lived in this region. I think the final blow was by Mongol invasions and ofcourse before that the raise of Islam, Uyghur entrance into tarim basin, this peoples really had horrible destiny, but we will not foget them.

    • @anthropologicalminds2855
      @anthropologicalminds2855 5 лет назад +4

      East Asian culture isn't really that influenced from Indo-Europeans directly but from other steppe peoples that they push further into the Mongolain Steppe and Manchuria.

    • @anthropologicalminds2855
      @anthropologicalminds2855 5 лет назад +7

      A yes there were other Steppe peoples; proto-Turks, mongols and Tungusic peoples were among them. Go watch Jive’s video on horse domestication.

    • @hallobre
      @hallobre 5 лет назад +4

      A these are the same people that invaded Egypt and brought in advanceD metallurgy. The Hyksos

    • @yuanruichen2564
      @yuanruichen2564 5 лет назад +1

      @@robertmontana671 The Tajiks in China as well. They all live in uninhabitable regions, probably because they were pushed out of the oasis?

    • @阿牛哥-j3g
      @阿牛哥-j3g 2 года назад

      如果真的有种族灭绝,那么只有伊斯兰教会搞种族灭绝,我们中华民族汉族的历史上没有莫名其妙屠杀异族的历史,我们是建立长城阻挡匈奴入侵我们家园的民族,时至今日,我们中国的民族文化依然是讲求同存异。😐

  • @A_Koenig
    @A_Koenig 5 лет назад +54

    From now on I'll wear my trousers with VIE pride.

  • @rullangaar
    @rullangaar 5 лет назад +176

    Test their DNA and settle the issue once and for all.

    • @graiant
      @graiant 5 лет назад +27

      They only tested the Y DNA and got the haplotype and its clade. We need their full autosomal.

    • @Chelsea-wd4ec
      @Chelsea-wd4ec 5 лет назад +43

      Apparently they're close to Russians and Ukrainians although i'm not 100% sure. If I can find the source again I'll link it below.

    • @jiayouchinese
      @jiayouchinese 5 лет назад +4

      Probably Y-DNA R and Q just like the Cimmerians.

    • @laertesindeed
      @laertesindeed 5 лет назад +34

      @Rullan You don't have to test dna…. we're fully aware of the tocharians and have been since the 1800s because their archaeological culture was known and used to formulate the Indo-European Language migration theory which is so far the best supported theory in linguistics. They had an empire in that part of asia for a brief few centuries while they kept the Xiongnyu on their eastern borders contained. Then after a while, the Xiongnyu were being pressured from their east...so they pushed westward and mixed with and/or replaced the tocharians. The leftover mixed group became the Huns which roamed around for a while until their later and well known push into Europe in classical periods.

    • @kingjames7273
      @kingjames7273 5 лет назад +44

      They did and found white Caucasian and Asian share dna when they found the whites buried in Mass graves in South Africa but you won't hear about it.they are destroying it all

  • @therationalcollection2999
    @therationalcollection2999 4 года назад +6

    Dude. Professional reporting. You are a great youtuber and i have noticed your development as a researcher/video maker. I would bother doing what you do.. but you do such a good job why would i bother! Much love ❤❤

  • @josephjude1290
    @josephjude1290 5 лет назад +4

    Nice to see these documentaries again. Truly enjoyed it

  • @Sandwich13455
    @Sandwich13455 5 лет назад +10

    Absolutely intriguing and fascinating stuff old boy!

  • @davidnoir188
    @davidnoir188 5 лет назад +194

    'Deep set eyes, lots of facial hair and are good with money'..... uh oh

    • @ozy_man_dias
      @ozy_man_dias 5 лет назад +75

      kek

    • @frankishempire2322
      @frankishempire2322 5 лет назад +70

      rubbing hands intensifies

    • @davidnoir188
      @davidnoir188 5 лет назад +5

      @Timemaster f 'girl'

    • @jedramyst5613
      @jedramyst5613 5 лет назад +5

      @@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Stop cringing on my white mummy video

    • @jasonbennett3033
      @jasonbennett3033 5 лет назад +5

      I was thinking that too. Lolz. But, there were no Hasidic curls and our boys were wearing tartan plaid. I know who they were. The narrator said that just to stir up controversy.

  • @northumbriabushcraft1208
    @northumbriabushcraft1208 Год назад +2

    I learned a lot from this video, thank you.
    I'd heard of the tocharians before and the kushan empire, but knew little to nothing avout them and didnt know they wrre Indo-Aryan/Indo-European
    Ive commented this on a few of your videos, but im very happy to have discovered your channel

  • @cjwright6165
    @cjwright6165 5 лет назад +5

    Glad to see your channel growing.

  • @ashwinrawat9622
    @ashwinrawat9622 3 года назад +13

    The Tocharian manuscript (as shown in video) shares so many similar features with my native manuscript, devnagri. I can identify some matras and some consonants, and even some sandhis.

    • @suhelmallick
      @suhelmallick 10 месяцев назад

      no wonder hindus sadhus and yogis talk about gyanganj in that region. even shankaracharya went there to study

    • @ashwinrawat9622
      @ashwinrawat9622 9 месяцев назад

      @@suhelmallickthoda ulta ho gya, chinese used to come here to study. even your arab masters used to come here to study before they started following the evil cult of an evil man.

  • @maryb6074
    @maryb6074 4 года назад +38

    These are some group of Persian/Iranian people such as Tajik, Afghan and etc. They believed in Zoroastrian.

    • @AizhAlim
      @AizhAlim 3 года назад +1

      They are Kazakhs

    • @Johariyt
      @Johariyt 3 года назад

      @@AizhAlim they are the original people of my land Central Asia

    • @AizhAlim
      @AizhAlim 3 года назад +1

      @@Johariyt of course lol

    • @Johariyt
      @Johariyt 3 года назад +2

      @@AizhAlim Kazakhs themselves are not the original they are a mix

    • @AizhAlim
      @AizhAlim 3 года назад +1

      @@Johariyt Kazakh ”was formed from the combined name of the tribes“ Kas ”(Kaspi sea) and“ Sak ”, here every second person knows that real kazakhs were Europeans

  • @adamakaru2683
    @adamakaru2683 2 года назад

    I can never had enough of it!. It's look like I will be siting next to your channel for days now thank you big time.

  • @casper-z9rkls6gl
    @casper-z9rkls6gl 3 года назад +6

    The main theme of all these articles, books, reports, videos is the shocking revelation of White mummies with red, brown, blond hair and Caucasoid features were found in China. But China is a big country, and looking at a map of Asia, northwestern China (Xinjiang) is actually geographically and culturally part of Central Asia, sharking borders with Tajikistan, northern Pakistan and Afghanistan where it's common, or at least not uncommon, to find people with light colored eyes and hair.

  • @vivianfire
    @vivianfire 5 лет назад +4

    what a great video!
    thank you for all the work you put into these :)

  • @refillingthecup6750
    @refillingthecup6750 4 года назад +9

    This video was really interesting! Thanks for sharing! 👍🏼❤️

  • @esotericbrain2689
    @esotericbrain2689 3 года назад +36

    I love my European heritage, culture, and genetics

    • @hazeeqrazak
      @hazeeqrazak 3 года назад +3

      I only had 2 ethnic descent😢😢😔

    • @jxelus1274
      @jxelus1274 3 года назад

      tocharian women love Han men.

    • @jxelus1274
      @jxelus1274 3 года назад

      @@sicsempertyrannis3782 tocharian only 0.5M Popultion.

    • @jxelus1274
      @jxelus1274 3 года назад

      @@sicsempertyrannis3782 many Chinese soldier marry tocharian beauty in Xinjiang.

    • @esotericbrain2689
      @esotericbrain2689 3 года назад

      @@HBKnowItAll lmfao watch the video again dummy

  • @jewelcitizen2567
    @jewelcitizen2567 5 лет назад +13

    Happy _Wassailing_
    Excellent upload

  • @serpens8
    @serpens8 3 года назад +6

    For us, Hungarians it is not a sensation. It is well known for us. We populated nowadays China from at least 4000 B.C. ( The Alliance of the 24 Hun Tribes founded at 4040 B.C. ) The spiritual center, the so called center for the initiated for the Alliances of the 24 Hun Tribes (the spiritual leadership) were in Ordos, at the bend of the Yellow river or Yangce. The Chinese came from south much later. They populously prolific Chinese gradually pushed from south much later.

  • @vanrensburgsgesicht
    @vanrensburgsgesicht 4 года назад +16

    So, if the Tarim Mummies have had a specific European branch of R1a but also were red-haired, doesn't that mean that they at least mixed with R1b people? Because the origin of red hair is normally associated with R1b?

    • @samschlossberg476
      @samschlossberg476 3 года назад +1

      Oldest red hair genes are found 70000 50000 years ago in anatolia caucasus zagros and 30000 from europe there was no haplogroup r1b at this time. the gene for red hair comes from hoplogroup IJ not r1b but r1b spread it around europe after sexual selection

    • @samschlossberg476
      @samschlossberg476 3 года назад +1

      @Мастурбек Кумысович so why most russians poles have brown light brown hair and not golden hair. sWEDES danish northenr germans with haplogroup i1 have golden hair not russians

    • @samschlossberg476
      @samschlossberg476 3 года назад +1

      @Мастурбек Кумысович no r1 come from deep asian south eastern then from siberia to europe

    • @samschlossberg476
      @samschlossberg476 3 года назад

      @Мастурбек Кумысович haplogrouo rbrother haplogorup is Q which native american siberian. Your russians are closee to filipino than to blonde swedish haplogroup i1 or chechens j2

    • @samschlossberg476
      @samschlossberg476 3 года назад

      @Мастурбек Кумысович You have very low IQ DUDE you have to just google haplogroup r and look at haplogorup tree

  • @enzoc.3501
    @enzoc.3501 4 года назад +12

    Now that's a proper history class, imagine if we had this kind of knowledge being spread in schools...

  • @kristofwynants
    @kristofwynants 5 лет назад +4

    Wow! It never ceases to amaze me how complex human taxonomy really is... Great documentary, thanks!

  • @RemoveChink
    @RemoveChink 5 лет назад +10

    Fascinating stuff, as a Mongolian I am learning a lot about how my people and related groups are somewhat new to western Asia. However in the comments i see a lot of people going into conspiracy theories about how this history is covered up somehow. Can’t really cover up what hasn’t been discovered yet no? Modern historical analysis is rather new, as opposed to the unscientific and ideological research in the past.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  5 лет назад +9

      I think the chinese government restricted access to the mummies in the nineties

    • @loredragon7473
      @loredragon7473 4 года назад

      @@SurvivethejiveIt's true!

    • @TARIM-TUMAN
      @TARIM-TUMAN Год назад

      ​@Survivetдаhejive да китайозы все время трубят что ,,западный край" исконно китайский, они шовинисты √1

  • @FortressofLugh
    @FortressofLugh 4 года назад +5

    Great in-depth look

  • @chopsandarchie7015
    @chopsandarchie7015 Год назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @princet1492
    @princet1492 4 года назад +43

    Oh that’s so cool I didn’t even know that Caucasian people ever lived in china. It kinda makes since because some the the people in the Xi something province have European features.
    Thank you so much for making this video I’ll be sure to subscribe,

    • @herondesign4507
      @herondesign4507 4 года назад +16

      There are 56 ethnic groups in China, and several ethnic groups are currently white.

    • @princet1492
      @princet1492 4 года назад +1

      PENGLEI QIN Ok nice to know.

    • @loredragon7473
      @loredragon7473 4 года назад +3

      Actually not only xin Jiang ,but in the whole China.

    • @manog8713
      @manog8713 4 года назад +2

      Do you know where the caucasian people live mr?

    • @mechannel7046
      @mechannel7046 4 года назад +5

      @@manog8713 Northeastern and northwestern China

  • @bretthines1020
    @bretthines1020 2 года назад +3

    Everything I’ve seen of yours is thoroughly researched and informative. The Production is Top Shelf and entertaining. Great channel for History

  • @einar6229
    @einar6229 5 лет назад +4

    Absolutely marvellous video... clearly a tartan patern there, fellow Barbaroi.

  • @thermonuclearasarmageddoni8
    @thermonuclearasarmageddoni8 4 года назад +6

    It's not a secret that ancient people of europeoid race used to be at home in South Siberia and throughout Asia. But since they would vigorously fight each other and make love to the ancient mongoloids for quite a long time, it did not end up well for them - the Eastern Asians were able to become stronger and wiser through white man’s blood while the whites themselves just stopped existing, having dissolved in their mongoloid descendants forever.

  • @armincal9834
    @armincal9834 5 лет назад +11

    there is nothing strange about this, we have known about the existance of Iranic people in that region for years, Scythians used to occupy those regions who have been described by Greeks to have blue eyes and red hairs. they had NOTHING to do with Europe :D

    • @charlottekey8856
      @charlottekey8856 5 лет назад

      The discussion here seems to be more about race and ethnicity than just geography.

    • @arminharper510
      @arminharper510 5 лет назад +4

      @@charlottekey8856 i understand which is why i said that they had nothing to do with europe. Europe is a continent, a Geographic term, just becauae 90% of the europeans today are blond and red haired does not mean that all blond people all around the world were the ancestors of the modern europeans and white Americans. Even now there are millions of blond people in western asia who have nothing to do with europe, they are asian cuz they were boen and bred in asia and speak an aaian language and have an asian culture.

    • @andrewlove3686
      @andrewlove3686 5 лет назад +5

      @@arminharper510 anyone with hair and eye color other than dark brown is mixed with europeans.

    • @arminharper510
      @arminharper510 5 лет назад +1

      @@andrewlove3686 anyone who has brown skin and black hairs has mixed with west asian.

    • @andrewlove3686
      @andrewlove3686 5 лет назад +4

      harper no. everyone on earth has or can have that coloration. The people who dont are either european or have European admixture.

  • @TarebossT
    @TarebossT 5 лет назад +71

    God...! This is so Indo-European that instantly I grew a red beard

    • @viracocha6093
      @viracocha6093 5 лет назад +7

      Wouldn’t it be blonde? Or are both ginger and blonde beards ok

    • @TarebossT
      @TarebossT 5 лет назад +5

      @@viracocha6093 They are very ok... And very Indo-European

    • @shaneweaver7936
      @shaneweaver7936 5 лет назад

      @JessikaEmerald So does my wife and half way down her back is the shortest ill allow it lol used to be at her butt, but a couple pregnancies made that too much work.

    • @RandomGuy-df1oy
      @RandomGuy-df1oy 5 лет назад

      Well, usually lighter the hair becomes, beard becomes lesser.

    • @Chelsea-wd4ec
      @Chelsea-wd4ec 5 лет назад +3

      Nope early Kurgans apparently had a high frequency of blonde hair and green eyes.

  • @yanghu6907
    @yanghu6907 4 года назад +6

    Amazingly informative video, totally enjoyed your channel, and massive thanks for the effort!
    One detail I’d like to point out is that you seemed to imply that the genocide committed by Han Chinese on Indo-Europeans occurred in western China, sorry if I misinterpreted. However, the incident mentioned in 7:51 of this video did not take place anywhere near the Tarim Basin, but thousands of miles away, in the city of Ye (邺) in central China (modern Handan, Hebei Province), in 349AD, please see that same reference you cited (i.e. Book of Jin). It is also uncertain if the people being massacred (the Jie 羯) were Indo-European, as they were variously identified either as Turkic, Sino-Tibetan, Indo-European (Lesser Yuezhi), or most recently as Yeniseian (Vovin et al 2016), who had settled and established a kingdom in the heartland of China. That genocide was direct retaliation by the Han Chinese against decades of brutal occupation and conquest by the Jie. Though I agree, it is likely that some Indo-Europeans migrants were also caught up in that massacre by virtue of having similar physical features (e.g. high nose, more facial hair). Hope this helps, thanks again for the video!
    Vovin et al. "Who were the *Kjet" (羯) and what language did they speak?" Journal Asiatique 304.1 (2016): 125-144. p. 126-127

  • @alittlebitofeverything3603
    @alittlebitofeverything3603 4 года назад +16

    I'm black but this seems somewhat of a tearful story of how history was twisted

    • @himalayas1647
      @himalayas1647 3 года назад +2

      @@lucaa.9709 The tartarian who were slavic-aryans built the wall of China you plonker

    • @18890426
      @18890426 3 года назад

      @@himalayas1647 Nice joke!! Out of inferiority complex

    • @dumebiokosa3138
      @dumebiokosa3138 3 года назад

      The elites who won WW2 rewrote history and they have alternative goals tan what they present to the public.

  • @Drewcappelletti
    @Drewcappelletti 2 года назад +3

    So well done and extremely interesting!

  • @elimalinsky7069
    @elimalinsky7069 5 лет назад +16

    The Uyghurs of western China are most likely mixed Tocharian-Turkic, as they exhibit both west and east Eurasian phenotypes.

    • @ibrahimova51
      @ibrahimova51 4 года назад +1

      yeah you may right but i also should mention that oghuz turks are mixed of caucasian and asian. not just azerbaijanis and turkishs also turkmens

    • @elimalinsky7069
      @elimalinsky7069 4 года назад +2

      @@ibrahimova51 Turkmens are definitely mixed west eurasian (caucasian) and east eurasian (mongoloid) types. The caucasian element is the more dominant one it seems. Azeris and Turks (of Turkey) are predominantly of west eurasian stock, having a core Turkic element which was already heavily mixed or fully integrating west eurasian phenotypes.

    • @zozifeliz
      @zozifeliz 2 года назад

      Right

    • @kiestyleproductions3481
      @kiestyleproductions3481 15 дней назад +1

      Proto-Turkic, it matches 1:1 with the ancient Chinese descriptions of Turkic people and Proto Turks, being red/blonde with colored eyes. Later descriptions of Turks were the same, like Kyrgyz, etc. I would advise you too look at ginger mongol or ginger turkic, blonde mongol, blonde turkic. (Usually classified on google as Mongol because a lot of people don't know the difference between Turkish, Turkic and Mongol). DNA evidence further supports these being Proto-Turkic.

  • @madtrapper1312
    @madtrapper1312 4 года назад +7

    Central Asia has such a interesting history and a mysterious one and it is so interesting and should be explored more there is so much more history to find

  • @LanaiHaselton
    @LanaiHaselton 23 дня назад

    Wonderful work! Very enjoyable video,loved it!

  • @VendPrekmurec
    @VendPrekmurec 3 года назад +8

    There are thirteen authors of the 2010 article, the first to be signed by Chinese scientist Chunxiang Li. Among the authors is also the above-mentioned sinologist Mair. Analysis of mtDNA showed that the mummies studied belonged to both Eastern Eurasian mtDNA haplogroups (haplogroup C) and Western Eurasian (haplogroups H and K). The haplogroup C was predominant. MtDNA was examined on 23 mummies, 14 of which belonged to the said haplogroup.
    Chunxiang Li et al., Evidence that a West-East admixed population lived in the Tarim basin as early as the Early Bronze Age (Fig. Evidence that a West-East admixed population lived in the Tarim basin as early as the Early Bronze Age). 2010.
    Eurasian (currently Slavic) origin along the male line
    Analysis of the Y-chromosome haplogroups of seven male mummies, however, showed that these males belonged to the Western Eurasian haplogroup R1a1a which is dominant today among slavic men from Ukraine, Poland, Czechia, Slovak republic, Slovenia).
    The latest study on Tarim mummies
    Last week, on October 27, Nature magazine published its latest scientific article on Tarim mummies. This does not focus on mtDNA and the Y chromosome (the latter contains less than two percent of all DNA), but on autosomal chromosomes (atDNA), which contain the vast majority of the genetic record (including eye, hair, and skin color). The study involved 34 scientists (first signed by Fan Zhang, Chao Ning and Ashley Scott), including some authors from the aforementioned 2010 study.
    (Source: Fan Zhang, Chao Ning and Ashley Scott and co-workers, The genomic origins of the bronze age Tarim basin mummies (Fig. DNA origin of Bronze Age mummies from the Tarim Basin), October 2021. )
    Indo-European peoples in the Dzungarian basin
    The scientists studied the DNA of five individuals from the Dzungarian Basin between 3,000 and 2,800 BC and 13 individuals from the Tarim Basin between 2,100 and 1,700 BC. These are the Tarim sites of Xiaohe, Gumugou and Beifang.
    The findings are as follows: the early Bronze Age inhabitants of the Dzungarian Basin, which lies north of the Tarim Basin, are mostly genetically related to members of the Afanasyevo culture. The members of this South Siberian culture were probably of Indo-European origin. They most likely immigrated to southern Siberia from the Eastern European steppes about five thousand years ago.
    Part of the DNA of the Bronze Age Dzungars is of local origin, ie from the indigenous inhabitants who lived here before the members of the Indo-European culture Afanasjevo came here from the north.
    The Bronze Age Tarimans have been genetically isolated for millennia
    According to the DNA of 13 individuals, the inhabitants of the Tarim Basin are only of local, autochthonous origin. They represent a genetically isolated group, their genetic fund probably formed about ten thousand years ago. They are mostly descendants of a genetic population that scientists call the Ancient North Eurasians (ANE). These were Siberian hunters and gatherers.
    About 72 percent of the ANE genes were found in the Tarim mummies, and the remaining 28 percent of the genes come from another indigenous or local ancient East Eurasian genetic population from the Lake Baikal area, called the ancient Northeast Asians.
    The genetic population of ANE, whose descendants are the Bronze Age inhabitants of the Tarim Basin, scientists once predicted to live throughout Central Asia and southern Siberia.
    Acceptance of a foreign culture and a foreign way of life
    Although the early Bronze Age inhabitants of the Tarim Basin were genetically isolated from their neighbors and newcomers or did not genetically mix with them, they "cosmopolitanly" accepted their culture.
    Thus, they took over livestock farming and agriculture, which enabled them to live in river oases in the otherwise very unfriendly desert Taklamakan. Protein analysis of the teeth of seven mummies showed that they consumed (sheep, cow and goat) milk or processed milk - a kefir-like drink. They even found pieces of cheese in some mummies.
    Why mummies have a western look
    According to the authors of the latest study, the western appearance of Tarim mummies is probably due to their connection with the genetic set of the ANE genetic population, which it had 12,000 years ago, and the extreme genetic isolation of Tarim Basin inhabitants in later periods.
    We know from past studies that the oldest discovered representative of ANE t. i. a boy from Malta who was excavated near the Siberian village of Malta. The boy from Malta was three or four years old when he died about 24,000 years ago. It belonged to the haplogroups R and R *, from which, via R1, the haplogroups R1a and R1b developed, which are very common today among Indo-European-speaking populations.
    Siberian hunters and today's Slavic population
    Part of the ANE left Siberia for the west. In Eastern Europe, it has mingled with the genetic population of (western) European Indigenous hunters and gatherers. Their genes are also part of the genetic set of Bronze Age Eastern European steppe shepherds and thus also part of the genetic set of modern European populations.
    According to an analysis of genetic impurities from 2014, led by geneticist Iosif Lazardis, for example, Czechs and Hungarianshave 16.7 and 17.9 percent of ANE genes, respectively. In addition to ANE, Lazaridis included in the study of genetic impurity analysis the ancient DNA of Anatolian early farmers and Western European hunters and gatherers.
    Source: Iosif Lazaridis et al., Ancient human genomes suggest three ancestral populations for present-day Europeans (Fig. Ancient human DNA suggests three ancestral populations of today's Europeans), September 2014.

  • @weiweiliu8416
    @weiweiliu8416 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for this very informative video. I visited the museum in Urumqi where some of these mummies exhibited, it is interesting to learn the stories behind the exhibition through your video. Thank you!

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  3 года назад +2

      Wow you are lucky!

    • @lanleening
      @lanleening 3 года назад +2

      @@Survivethejive Google Tajiks of Xinjiang!
      These indo european people still exist today in xinjiang!
      Tajiks of xinjiang are the direct descendants of east iranic saka people who live in the remote closed Pamiri mountains that's why they managed to survive until today meanwhile their cousins living on the flat oasis of tarim bisin were conquered and replaced by turkic uyghur population!
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  • @Mini_Lop1
    @Mini_Lop1 Год назад +4

    According to various ancient books in Asia, western China (Uighur) and Central Asia were regions full of Caucasian people. After the Islamic invasion in the 7th century, they forcibly converted their religion from Buddhism to Islam. Even today, some Caucasian people live in Tajikistan and eastern Afghanistan. This is because many of them lived in high mountainous areas and they refused to interact with other civilizations until the 19th century. The reason why the Caucasian countries did not survive in Central Asia was because they were so divided into many tribes based on their appearance, such as hair color and eye color, and were overly obsessed with their facial appearance, and were unable to unite with each other, according to the book of Great Tang records on the western regions

    • @groundzero5708
      @groundzero5708 Год назад

      lol most of the time . the islam and mongol invasions with wide invasion and slave breeding

    • @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
      @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 8 месяцев назад

      So most of the caucasians did not survive in Central Asia because they were racist towards each other?😅

  • @claytonsmith5673
    @claytonsmith5673 5 лет назад +2

    Brother I absolutely enjoyed this presentation. The explanation of origins thru DNA was spot on. Well done. Think I'll make a feature film based on this history...just plain fascinating.