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  • The Fellbeasts of Mordor, the terrifying steeds of the Nazgul. What were they, where did they come from, and how did they become the flying mounts of the Ringwraiths? Could they have been linked to Morgoth, the first Dark Lord and Sauron's master? In this episode we break down all the known information concerning the fellbeasts including their appearances in the books, as we seek to unravel the mysteries surrounding these enigmas!
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Комментарии • 853

  • @Olympics30
    @Olympics30 6 лет назад +291

    "Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt or transform things that already exist." That is such great point, and interesting theme that runs throughout the stories of middle earth. I love this channel, you do such a great job with these videos! I commend your fantastic research skills. Keep doing what you're doing!

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад +4

      Cheers Kyle! :)

    • @zachstevens7382
      @zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

      Kyle Ferguson what about morgoth though? he didn't create or twist it from creation to make evil things. ?

    • @Weaseldog2001
      @Weaseldog2001 6 лет назад +2

      Both of you are correct. But the variations of the phrases are brought up to illustrate the point, and to show that even the fell beasts had a history of goodness, and so we might think that it could still linger inside of them.

    • @emperordemetrius3832
      @emperordemetrius3832 6 лет назад +4

      yes but trolls were created to copy ents werent they?

    • @zachstevens7382
      @zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

      Emperor Demetrius yes

  • @hkhudadad
    @hkhudadad 6 лет назад +965

    why do the evil guys always have the coolest shit Like balrogs, dragons, giant wolves and these beasts >:(

    • @satanamogila9251
      @satanamogila9251 5 лет назад +140

      Well, cuz the good guys have Gandalf

    • @TheMinecraftHype
      @TheMinecraftHype 5 лет назад +49

      @keller blair Though more neutral: Beorn, Ents (no one ever loves the Ents... qq). Could even argue Gollum is meant to be on this list.

    • @adomalyon1
      @adomalyon1 5 лет назад +78

      Tolkien is wise therefore he shows the good characters as having hidden power. Bad guys go out of their way to look scary.

    • @giannib7395
      @giannib7395 5 лет назад +12

      because they want to leave a "good" impression .... :-)

    • @conways3897
      @conways3897 5 лет назад +5

      werewolves, shelob the giant spider and oliphaunts

  • @enoughothis
    @enoughothis 6 лет назад +254

    First off, all evil creatures in Arda are somehow the work of Morgoth. Whether by active work or passive corruption Morgoth is the founder. Orcs and Trolls are specifically mentioned as having been made (or corrupted) in mockery of the Elves and Ents respectively. Of all the Valar, Morgoth hated Manwë the most as He was chosen by Eru Ilúvatar to be King over Arda, the position that Morgoth claimed for himself. I find it almost suspicious that Morgoth never bred anything except the dragons, which were a very late started project, to contend against Manwë's vaunted Eagles for mastery of the Air. Maybe the fellbeasts were Morgoth's first and ultimately abandoned attempt. Being creations of Morgoth in the first place would make it easier for Sauron to find them for as Tolkien says "all creatures of evil were left open to the summons of Mordor."

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад +26

      It's possible for sure, it could also explain how Sauron knew about their existance :)

    • @Ilkvomit
      @Ilkvomit 6 лет назад +4

      How the hell do you know all that? Is there some kind of book that details all that back mythology?

    • @Ilkvomit
      @Ilkvomit 6 лет назад +2

      GeekZone thanks 👌

    • @enoughothis
      @enoughothis 6 лет назад +32

      Yes it's called the Silmarillion. It's the grand mythic history of Arda. Many people never read it because it reads more like the Bible or the Norse Sagas than the Lord of the Rings which is an epic romance.

    • @andrewculross9421
      @andrewculross9421 6 лет назад +1

      AJ Jones I like to think that, like the one possibility that certain orcs were elves corrupted by Morgoth, and fell beasts were corrupted eagles

  • @Dasycottus
    @Dasycottus 3 года назад +4

    Despite not being canon, I think the film adaptations of the fell Beast were fantastic.
    They did their job well... which was to be goddamn terrifying.

  • @howardhavardramberg333
    @howardhavardramberg333 5 лет назад +36

    Fellbeasts were basically lesser dragons or wyverns twisted by Morgoth.

  • @brandonolson6299
    @brandonolson6299 6 лет назад +57

    I am obsessed with your channel. I have been a huge LOTR fan ever since I was a child and my best friends dad asked if I wanted to go see a new movie that just came out (Fellowship) and I asked what it was, and he just said "I promise you will like it." We went to the theater and after the opening prologue he looked over at me, and I at him, with my mouth wide open in excitement like I had experienced a religious revelation. Keep up the amazing work my friend!

    • @brandonolson6299
      @brandonolson6299 6 лет назад +1

      Also, I have no idea how you find such great artwork but I am beyond impressed with your ability to source these images!

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад +4

      Cheers Brandon, I think it's awesome that you have such a wonderful memory of your first encounter with Middle-Earth! Regarding the artwork, they're all just from Google Images, if I manage to find some specific link or person I try to list them in the video description :)

    • @zachstevens7382
      @zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

      GeekZone yes agreed good sir.

    • @zachstevens7382
      @zachstevens7382 6 лет назад

      I'm in that same boat too. same back story about growing up. yo yo :)

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 5 лет назад

      I had seen the cartoons for _The Hobbit_ and _The Return of the King_ by Rankin Bass on television - they also showed _Flight of Dragons_ and _The Wizards_ - and then I had bought The Hobbit from a book fair and I fell in love. It wasn't until one day while camping with a friend that his dad told me they were going to make _The Lord of the Rings_ into a movie that I actually ordered and read the rest of them. I'll never forget sitting up in my treefort reading about the Hobbits fleeing through the forest from the Black Riders - how they were in a great bowl with the Riders near the top and their cries all around them.
      I fell in love with the movies, when they came out. I'm glad so many people got to enjoy these stories, as without the films it's likely they wouldn't have reached many people.

  • @srk_vader5211
    @srk_vader5211 6 лет назад +21

    My theory: The Fell Beasts, by their description and what you think, could have multiple back stories. Starting with the Years of the Lamps (or was it the Two Trees? I forget!) when the world was in one piece before Utumno was breached- The Fell Beasts could have been some animals that was unknown and lived in unknown areas. In the First Age, the Fell Beasts could’ve been made in either two different ways: They could be corrupted Eagle, because Tolkien describes them as bird-like. When Morgoth and Sauron took the Elves, maybe the Eagles where either mocked like Ents to Trolls or corrupted like Elves to Orcs. Or, they could be some breed of Dragon that Morgoth made, a breed that could breath fire. After the War of Wrath and Beleriand sunk beneath the waves, the surviving Fell Beasts could’ve escaped and made new homes. Looking at the description “In long forgotten mountains.” This could mean that if they where at the War of Wrath and fled, they could’ve made homes in the Northern Misty Mountains. What I think, is that they came from the areas around Angmar. Since Cold-Drakes and other Dragons where found around there, it is possible that the Fell Beasts made their homes in the Mountains of Angmar, where discovered by the Witch-King during Arnors fall, and later taken to Mordor. I looked at Tolkien Gateway and saw some role-play interpretation of the Fell Beasts and it said that they where descendants of Cold-Drakes that made their home in the Mountains of Mirkwood, and the Necromancer found them and took them to Mordor. There are many other ideas, but I’m pretty sure that Tolkien wanted us to question a lot of things instead of giving every singe answer away.

  • @mrabootoo5556
    @mrabootoo5556 4 года назад +9

    “WRAITHS, WRAITHS ON WINGS”
    (Shrieking intensifies)

    • @esapuntch4485
      @esapuntch4485 4 года назад

      Mr Abootoo As a kid I always thought it was “FRANKS! FRANKS AND BEANS!!”

  • @Vikingr4Jesus5919
    @Vikingr4Jesus5919 6 лет назад +3

    As for the Nazgul (or as Smeagol put it "wraiths on wings") who patrolled the Dead Marshes, here's what I think happened in the book/movie:
    As we know according to the books, the Ring contains much of Sauron's spirit, and the Nazgul are like soul-bound servants to him. So they hear about every order their master gives, and will obey it without a moment's second thought.
    As we know in the scene, Frodo felt the urge from the Ring to put it on - which was the seductive voice of Sauron. The closer it got to Frodo, the more the Nazgul got accurate in its search. Not just that, Smeagol himself - who knew the Ring well - stated the following:
    "They are calling for it, they are calling for the Preciousss." Which I think indicates that the Nazgul felt something drawing it and it called to the Ring because of it.
    It was thanks to Sam that Frodo let go of the Ring, and thus the voice to the Nazgul was lost. As we can see in that scene, the Nazgul flies away and higher up again after that.
    So in nutshell of why this Nazgul swooped down so accurately around Frodo, Sam and Smeagol; it felt the presence of the Ring and, as Gandalf also once mentioned, the servants of Sauron (aka the Nazgul) are drawn to its power.

  • @hans-rudolfsaxer9587
    @hans-rudolfsaxer9587 6 лет назад +6

    I think you researched well and am supporting your theory. I would like to add though, that Sauron might well had wished to mimic the great eagles just as Morgoth copied ents by creating trolls. So i support a merge of your theory with the second mentioned one. Cheers

    • @godofpoopholly8086
      @godofpoopholly8086 5 лет назад +1

      Sauron couldn't alter creations to make his own like Melkor

  • @His_Name_Was_King
    @His_Name_Was_King 3 года назад

    Your voice and accent bring the legendarium to life. Best LoTR channel on RUclips

  • @spaceangelmewtwo9074
    @spaceangelmewtwo9074 6 лет назад +1

    I think the Nazgul were probably searching the Dead Marshes as Frodo and Sam crossed because of something Aragorn mentioned. To paraphrase, they are drawn by the power of the One Ring, and can probably sense its general location as the Ring calls out to its master.

  • @alswearengen6427
    @alswearengen6427 6 лет назад +9

    A little off topic, but I was wondering if anyone has any information on why Peter Jackson scrapped the "bridge movie." He was originally supposed to make one or two hobbit movies followed by a movie that chronicles the events during the 60 years that lead up to LOTR. I would love to see that movie. Perhaps there is still a slim chance it gets made? Perhaps geekzone can make a video describing the events during that time? That would be great.

    • @brucetucker4847
      @brucetucker4847 6 лет назад +2

      He decided to make it about the White Council's battle against Sauron in Dol Guldur instead and integrated it into the Hobbit movies.

    • @Andulsi
      @Andulsi 6 лет назад +5

      The Hobbit movies were terrible. such a shame

    • @notorio526
      @notorio526 5 лет назад +8

      2 Hobbit movies and a bridge movie would have been perfect. But they went for the blockbuster trilogy $$$. Jackson makes excuses about the Hobbit being out of his control, but the whole thing reeks of bad ego and greed. In LOTR he curated Tolkien's world, in Hobbit he thought he was good enough to write Tolkien. The result is like a Harry Potter movie.

  • @Wyvern201
    @Wyvern201 3 года назад +1

    I’d like to think that maybe the dead marshes nazgul was taking his replacement mount for a short ride ahead of the orc scouts at Cirith ungol to have a once over sweep of the area and get his harness adjusted and used to the new mount. Or he could have just had a hunch, or been on a routine like you said.

  • @cloudstrife5174
    @cloudstrife5174 6 лет назад +52

    Plz plz talk about the Stone Giants at the Mountain Pass. In The Hobbit movie of the Thunder Battle Scene. I wanna know about the lore and origin about those legendary Giants. Who were they and what was their thoughts from Tolkien?

    • @FiveSigma72
      @FiveSigma72 5 лет назад +3

      I think they were just there for the Hobbit, and were never fleshed out when Tolkien went on to expand middle earth lore.

    • @rakkatytam
      @rakkatytam 5 лет назад +1

      They were just suppose to be a mystery.

    • @ghostlightx9005
      @ghostlightx9005 5 лет назад +4

      I took them for a metaphor, or perhaps colloquial name, for the sound of the huge storm that surrounded them at the time, not actual creatures.

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 5 лет назад +4

      @@ghostlightx9005 I always took them for an allusion to the storm, but upon my last read it _does_ state that "Bilbo could hear their stony voices guffawing" or something along those lines, implying they were actual beings. Likely, Maiar or Ainur that still inhabited the area. The mountain Caradhras was said to be a living thing. Tolkien had a lot of odd beings in his tales that are implied to be remnants of ancient times, those that wandered out of Beleriand and crept to isolated parts of the world.

    • @GLORYInintact
      @GLORYInintact 5 лет назад

      Cloud Strife you know is all fantasy of one old man

  • @viveleqc360
    @viveleqc360 6 лет назад +3

    Good video as always! Would love to see one about the Warning beacons of Gondor

  • @OrthodoxLegion907
    @OrthodoxLegion907 6 лет назад +20

    In Battle For Middle Earth it was awsome to put your fellbeast chasing down the armies of Gondor and Elves

    • @rolandchang5338
      @rolandchang5338 5 лет назад +2

      Templar S bastard Mirkwood Archers ruined that

    • @bluemountain4181
      @bluemountain4181 5 лет назад

      I generally used them for attacking buildings since they can get across the map so fast and are quite strong

    • @ernesto.carloz
      @ernesto.carloz 3 года назад

      Which game?

  • @jrnvrr
    @jrnvrr 6 лет назад

    So happy I discovered your channel. Been a huge fan of the series and your videos just make me appreciate Tolkien's imagination even more. Thanks for the work you do, you've got a loyal fan here!

  • @danielcalderon7260
    @danielcalderon7260 6 лет назад +3

    You should do a video about the history of Ents and entwives and all info about them. I can see a lot of people taking an interest in that cause I sure did haha

  • @ramimansi8511
    @ramimansi8511 6 лет назад +1

    I am always so enchanted by these storys, whenever you release a new video.
    Really great work! Keep it up :D

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      Cheers mate, I appreciate it :)

  • @jehanzaya1686
    @jehanzaya1686 6 лет назад +4

    Hey, loved the video as always and always will. I wanted to ask you if you could do a video about Rovanion. I really want to learn more about it and what factions and creatures live in in. Keep up the great work 👍🏻.

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      Cheers Frodo! I'll be covering Rhovanion for sure in the future, though since it's such a large area it'll probably be broken down into smaller topics :)

  • @chrisleonard2066
    @chrisleonard2066 6 лет назад +1

    Fantastic video mate :) it’s super interesting that Tolkien himself realised their similarity to pterodactyls!

  • @mikhailkalashnikov7886
    @mikhailkalashnikov7886 6 лет назад +4

    Don't know why, but I always imagined them to be like gigantic featherless vultures.

  • @johanbothma8031
    @johanbothma8031 3 года назад

    Some very plausible explanations and I quite like it! Another possibility is that the "fell beasts" are in fact a pre-existing species that Morgoth first used as hosts from which to breed dragons, and that only a remnant of this species were left at the time of the Third Age, in some remote area in the west or north, and possibly that these remaining fell beasts were either just captured and used by Sauron in their extant form, or also twisted by his arts, but given his lesser power and the fact that his skills and arts were more suited towards crafting of materials could not yield creatures anywhere near as mighty as the dragons. We know that there were creatures in Middle Earth that came there of their own accord (and some which may even have been a sort of "byproduct of creation") and that some were evil or at least hostile towards other living things without Morgoth's influence - the creatures that dwelled far below Moria below the roots of the Misty Mountains for instance which were there even before Morgoth came to Middle Earth. These may perhaps also have been creatures such as this, and may have been evil, or perhaps just vile and dreadful but with no real intentional malice. Just some thoughts

  • @Swordsquire
    @Swordsquire 6 лет назад

    Subscribed! Your viseos on Middle Earth are quite thorough, and thought provoking.

  • @andreeac5193
    @andreeac5193 6 лет назад

    The amount of research you put in these videos is very impressing. I was imediately captivated by your way of telling stories and i think the vast majority of us, your viewers, are very grateful for these amazing tales and theories that you produce. Thank you and keep up the good work! 👏🏻
    P.s: i think that it would be nice if we got to know you better, maybe through a q&a video?

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад +1

      Cheers Andrea! I appreciate it! :) I'd like to do a Q and A video in the future, so if there are any questions you'd like to ask, feel free to leave them as a youtube comment, or contact me on twitter/facebook, and I'll include them in that video! :)

  • @morinor1340
    @morinor1340 6 лет назад +4

    Ive waited for this! thx you made it!
    4:37 OMG thats so awesome!
    6:15 that ones also pretty amazing
    Hm, maybe the ancestors or creatures that were related to them could even have been the origin of dragons, at least the winged ones? I know the first drakes were wingless, but there had to be like a "source material", and mayb morgoth crossbred some of these beasts, some were winged, some not, and later imbued them with his power to create real dragons?
    If they were copies, then imo sauron did not try to copy eagles, rather the works of his master, dragons

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      Hope the wait was worth it! ;)

    • @morinor1340
      @morinor1340 6 лет назад

      It was indeed! :)

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад +1

      It's possible that the two shared a common ancestor, I don't think we can rule it out! :)

  • @austinlee4156
    @austinlee4156 6 лет назад +5

    Love how i think i know everythin about this series and you always surprise me! Mind blown great job!!!

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад +2

      Thanks Austin, hopefully we'll keep it that way for future video! ;)

  • @matthewnickolas4706
    @matthewnickolas4706 4 года назад

    I think the scouting of the dead marshes was routine sense it's a terrain where footsoldiers such as orks have a hard time traversing, yet we KNOW that sauron is obsessed with efficency and perfections, as he continously stacked advantage over advantage during the war of the ring, using diplomacy, tricks, ambushes, overwhelming numbers, and collecting as much weapons, beast, and warrior as phisically possible to always enshure long term victory.
    It would make sense that he would send a nazgul over the marshes to avoid enemy spies sneaking to the black gate so that his movements around the black gate would be unobserved, and his enemies would find out much later when he moves his armies from that direction. Now we know that the rignwraiths are Sauron's strongest soldiers, and "they may be better used elsewhere" they are also the only ones able to efficently patrol the hard to cross terrains of the marshes.

  • @Raving_Rando
    @Raving_Rando 5 лет назад

    The Nazgul that flew over the Dead Marshes was taking his daily thirty minute lunch. Since he doesn't really have the need to eat and it gets him away from the noisy Orcs, he enjoys his breaks by flying over the marsh as it is the only change of scenery within easy flying distance. Sauron is very strict about time schedules however, one minute over on your break and you're cleaning the Orc bathrooms.

  • @chriswonder2747
    @chriswonder2747 2 года назад +1

    Anyone else appreciate that Sauron Wields a Deadric mace in some images?

  • @cerberus6654
    @cerberus6654 6 лет назад

    I could listen to your beautiful Maltese voice for hours. But harken now, as I recount the tale of Bargozím, the Fell Cockroach, foul pet caressed by Morgoth, ancient spawn sprung unwished-for from the tainted loins of Ungoliant to trouble the kitchens of Man.

  • @sarahgray430
    @sarahgray430 6 лет назад +1

    They do resemble pterodactyls, but I think Tolkien created them as a fantasy-world version of German air craft, which in WWI were mostly used for reconaissance missions. He may have also borrowed the idea of the "night gaunt" from another great fantasy writer, H.P. Lovecraft!

  • @Cory_Dora
    @Cory_Dora 6 лет назад

    Have you done a book vs movies comparison set yet? Im new to this channel and working my way through and those comparisons through your eyes would be most welcome because you are a scholar of Tolkiens middle earth and I am a worshipper! Keep it up! ❤️. You put into words how my my mind thinks. Amazing!

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      I have a couple, though they're very old videos and their quality is lacking imo. Perhaps I'll remake them someday! :)

  • @whoaachocolate8094
    @whoaachocolate8094 5 лет назад +5

    and I thought they were dragons at first lol Ps I love how serpentine they look In the films.

  • @evanseekins517
    @evanseekins517 3 года назад

    Some of my favorite parts from the books is when Tolkien is describing the sort of primordial creatures. Lost to time and memory. Sorry if this guy says it too, but J.R.R. isn't even really sure how Sauron got them. Just kind of eludes to a possible forgotten labyrinth or mountain where a single brood might have survived. Same thing with the creatures of Moriah. Just adds an awesome realness and kind of Sci fi aspect to the world.

  • @kroyatful
    @kroyatful 6 лет назад +1

    It's too bad they didn't make an appearance in the movies as often as they did in the book. That way I feel like it would be a lot easier for people to understand why the Eagles couldn't just fly The Fellowship to Mordor.
    Nonetheless the Fell Beasts are very fascinating, I love how they are interpreted on the movie.

  • @timerover4633
    @timerover4633 6 лет назад +1

    I would think that Sauron might have found the basic creature in either the Grey Mountains, possibly near the Withered Heath or the far westerly end near Carn Dum.

  • @thedarknesscallingme
    @thedarknesscallingme 6 лет назад +4

    I thought the Misty Mountains were created by Morgoth to disrupt the journeys of the elves as they travelled west across middle earth after they had awoken

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад +3

      I believe it served that purpose also. The exact quote is: "But the mountains were the Hithaeglir, the Towers of Mist upon the borders of Eriador; they they were taller and more terrible in those days, and were reared by Morgoth to hinder the riding of Orome."

  • @Davidh41690
    @Davidh41690 6 лет назад

    Just want to say I really like your content, please keep them coming.

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      +Davidh41690 Thanks David, I appreciate it!! :)

  • @tyleebutler
    @tyleebutler 6 лет назад

    Great video as usual. One thing that puzzles me about Tolkien's descriptions of some of the creatures that populate the legendarium. It would seem odd for a beast or creature to be predisposed to be "evil" per se. As a beast, even an intelligent beast, unlike the "higher order" of beings, do not generally have a moral and ethical center, or defined code by which they can have a predilection towards good or evil, in the classical sense. Most creatures/beasts/animals are not like humankind in that sense.
    Now one animal can certainly be more violent or more aggressive than another. An animal can certainly be anthropomorphed and considered characteristics like "sly" or "sneaky" (like a Fox or certain Monkeys), but even that is really assigning a humanistic trait to them. They are not literally "sneaky" in the terms that a human would be that is doing something behind someone's back, an animal simply develops the instincts of survival that can include how to steal food when a larger, stronger animal or prey is not looking. So even when the books describe Carcharoth as being "cunning" when he was slinking through Doriath, I don't think that is the same as human cunning.
    Now an animal can certainly be USED for evil, so like in our reality, when a Pit Bull dog is trained to be aggressive and mean, and then taken by an evil doer, like a drug kingpin, and used to attack the enemies, that is the animal being used for evil, but the animal itself is not again "evil" from a moral sense. So even with these Fellbeast, it would be odd for them to be classified as "evil" as opposed to them being violent, aggressive, attacking type of creatures, that are used by Sauron's forces for evil purposes.
    Now the one "creature" in MiddleEarth that could be classified as morally evil in a sense are likely Dragons, but in looking at Dragons and their history, their intelligence, even their speech ability, they are certainly not in any way to be considered an Animal, even by Middle Earth terms. They are a higher order creature that has cognition and intellect, no different than a Balrog, being a Maia that is stuck in a permanent evil form, is a "Creature" so to speak now, but not an animal.

  • @nika-og4vu
    @nika-og4vu 6 лет назад

    I like how this guy drops every single epic sounding word in first 15 sec s

  • @JHorsti
    @JHorsti 6 лет назад

    I just stumbled upon this channel yesterday, subbed to it, and now I've watched all of your videos in one day. Really enjoying this quality content of yours. May I ask you, where you are from? That accent is really hard to identify. Anyway, greetings from Germany!

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      Cheers mate! I'm from Malta!

  • @Tom-re6zo
    @Tom-re6zo 5 лет назад

    Interesting thing to remember is that the eagles are actually pretty high in the divine hierarchy close in rank to Gandalf if not his equal. That's why they seem to resolve every situation they show up to, they're actually really powerful. So I don't think it's that unlikely that Sauron saw how powerful and useful Eagles would be if they were on his side as was like "I want that." It would be interesting if he had been trying to recreate his own eagles for a long time and that's why they seemed so ancient.

  • @OtterTreySSArmy
    @OtterTreySSArmy 4 года назад

    Your thumbnail looks just like Arbiter if he were British. I love the videos tho!

  • @petrovsim
    @petrovsim 5 лет назад

    May I suggest that instead of Forgotten parts of the Misty Mountains, they probably stayed at the Mountains of the East, beyound Ruhn and south-whest of Utumno, where Morgoth bread all his future army - Belrogs, Orks, and other beasts. Not sure about trolls and the other creatures were they from Utumno or Angband. I think only the oldest and most rare are from Utumno as it was destroyed in the Years of the trees and than 3 ages have passed of molkor's imprisonment so probably most have either passed away or deminished in power being overran by other beasts or monsters.

  • @krsevanstoric6342
    @krsevanstoric6342 6 лет назад

    You always pick great topics, and your videos are always amazing. I just love them.

  • @malcolmt7883
    @malcolmt7883 3 года назад

    Sauron probably wouldn't dare the wrath of the Valar, simply to capture one of Manwe's eagles. However, Melkor's evil giant bats, or 'vampires,' might be a better candidate.

  • @frankiesudia8098
    @frankiesudia8098 5 лет назад

    For the theory on the marshes and why the black rider came back might be because the black riders are drawn to the ring so maybe it sensed the ring came back to look but wasn’t close enough to pin point so when couldn’t find Frodo went back to previous task

  • @generalgrievous9185
    @generalgrievous9185 6 лет назад

    I don't know what feelbeast are, before you make this video! Thank you, sir!

  • @williamjones7718
    @williamjones7718 6 лет назад

    It is always a joy, and new insights with your videos. You bring added pleasure and depth to my favorite pastime - high fantasy. Please know that you have my thanks.

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      Thank you William, I appreciate your support! :)

  • @Edward-nf4nc
    @Edward-nf4nc 11 месяцев назад

    I believe the Fell Beasts were the first attempt at winged dragons or dragons, but as it is so easy to kill them they were considered a falour by Morgoth, but did a good enough job for Sauron.

  • @TheWerewaa
    @TheWerewaa 5 лет назад

    Love the vid man. What's the background music your using? Love my fantasy tunes!

  • @drewcharpentier8670
    @drewcharpentier8670 6 лет назад

    I hope and pray Colbert reaches out to you for a collaboration. 💜🙏 Love and respect!

  • @17Watman
    @17Watman 2 года назад +1

    Can you do a video on Werewolves?

  • @richardrendon7929
    @richardrendon7929 6 лет назад

    in your exploring middle earth series you mentioned that Sauron help create the rings

  • @neflesward2727
    @neflesward2727 5 лет назад

    Great content and a perfectly made video. You have a new subscriber

  • @Steve0C
    @Steve0C 6 лет назад

    Considering the ambiguous nature of the origins given, it could be that they were from the same vaguely described dark / void that Ungoliant originated from, as I could be mistaken but I think that Ungoliant came into existence that was outside of the creation by Eru Illuviatar or a corrupt creation by Morgoth.

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      Yes Ungoliant was said to originate from the Void, though she's only being we know of with such a history. I guess we can't rule out that the fellbeasts are linked with the void, though I still feel it's more likely that they were normal creatures that were corrupted by Morgoth :)

  • @smithy3211
    @smithy3211 6 лет назад

    Please dude , do Treebeard and ents and explain a history of fengorn forest and ents . Btw nice vid as always

  • @mehfff
    @mehfff 6 лет назад

    Love the video and the Witcher music in the background

  • @howardhaga4710
    @howardhaga4710 5 лет назад

    another numerical idea is that from edoras to minas tirith is that it's 3 days as the nazgul flies

  • @prestonjackson2873
    @prestonjackson2873 6 лет назад

    Your videos are my favorite part of the day :)

  • @PhineasPhule
    @PhineasPhule 6 лет назад

    I'm thinking that it was originally Morgoth who, by his interference in the ordering of Arda, created the 'template' for them, as it were; I think it is quite possible that the species inhabited the Ered Gorgoroth in the First Age, and may have been among the creatures Beren encountered in his crossing. I would also hypothesize that some survived the destruction of Beleriand, taking up residence in more isolated stretches of the Misty and/or Grey Mountains. All Sauron really did was enhance their size and perhaps their intelligence; for all we know, once this was accomplished, he had a breeding program in place.

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      It's possible, though I think it's more likely that he corrupted them after the marring of Arda

  • @benlockwood3983
    @benlockwood3983 4 года назад

    I remember watching theses for the first time when i was a kid and they were amazing and they still are. The Nazgual are amazing but their fell beast strike fear into everyone! Did Sauron ever ride a fell beast?

  • @candyfemboy2410
    @candyfemboy2410 6 лет назад +5

    Oh my god I love this, The Fell beast, I have been waiting for something like this. Nice stuff Geek *hugs*

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад +2

      You're welcome buddy! :)

    • @candyfemboy2410
      @candyfemboy2410 6 лет назад +1

      Geeek Called me Buddy? *Feints* ༼ ಥ﹏لಥ ༽ ᵘgᵍʰ

  • @RandomMajin
    @RandomMajin 6 лет назад

    They’re probably corrupted Drakes. It makes sense as drakes have basically the same appearance and fight in the same manner of swooping down and catching pray.

  • @anbukiri2681
    @anbukiri2681 4 года назад

    Love your videos bro!

  • @MikeSmith-bj5uy
    @MikeSmith-bj5uy 6 лет назад

    Maybe the fell beasts are some off breed of dragons. Kinda like how hobbits may be a off breed of man.
    Great vid as always :)

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      They are quite different though both physically and in their capabilities :P

  • @gungadin7721
    @gungadin7721 6 лет назад

    It is possible that these are monsters are ancient in origin and are from the same timeframe as Ungoliant (the huge spider). Maybe creatures of the shadow or void, such as Balrogs. It's also possible that Sauron took a small monster, inclined to evil or even a good beast and corrupted it. Whatever their origin, like Balrogs, they're lousy neighbors.

    • @brucetucker4847
      @brucetucker4847 6 лет назад

      Ungoliant was one of a kind, and she didn't come from the world, she was some sort of evil spirit who came into the world like the Valar and Maiar did.

  • @vathrris9198
    @vathrris9198 6 лет назад

    the fel beasts could be some of the lesser drakes from the first age around the war of unnumbered tiers that fled to the mountains after the battle that then sauron brooded and corrupted further over the ages

  • @MasterDeroy
    @MasterDeroy 4 года назад

    Orcs look very different to elves, so i think it's fair to suggest corrupted eagles could end up looking a lot like a fell beast.

  • @CrookedCrow66
    @CrookedCrow66 6 лет назад

    I mean they were referred to as hell hawks, so i feel like them being corrupted eagles might have some wight.

  • @xenomorph2258
    @xenomorph2258 5 лет назад +3

    But Sauron has only 9 Nazguls as fellbeasts. Why sauron don't bring up fellbeasts more ???

  • @mikaeljohansson291
    @mikaeljohansson291 6 лет назад

    I have long thought the Fellbeasts as some of Morgoth's prototypes for dragons. Sauron might have hade trouble recruiting and controlling dragons as he had less power than his master. But some of their less powerful cousins might have been easier for him to tame.

  • @Shisanon
    @Shisanon 5 лет назад

    My father had the idea that they were corrupted spawn of Smaug, as they do seem to have dragon like appearances. They wouldn't be as great or powerful as Smaug could be, but they would make for great beasts for the Nazgul.

  • @filsdemorte
    @filsdemorte 3 года назад

    4:05 retreats eastwards. That has so much more relavancy than I thought. Into the west is not a place they would retreat towards. Also, geography and locations obv.

  • @pascalvannielen6794
    @pascalvannielen6794 6 лет назад

    Do a video about the warg riders

  • @sasquatchredman2608
    @sasquatchredman2608 6 лет назад

    I was wondering if anything was ever said about Wraiths and their power? I understand the Nazghul were a form of wraith, empowered with sauron ontop of their rings, but what of others?

  • @CobaltBlueMask
    @CobaltBlueMask 4 года назад +1

    you're looking at 200 miles per hour or more on the flight speed if they're able to go 1100km/nearly 700 miles in just a few hours.

  • @lbezey
    @lbezey 5 лет назад

    one of the books says that trolls were created as an evil to match the Ents, although I can't remember who created them. It might have been Sauron more likely it was Morgoth.

  • @itsem100
    @itsem100 5 лет назад

    I dont know where they came from but I would say that not being able to get hold of any of the now very rare dragons Sauron bred these beasts, not only for the Nazgul but also to counter the threat of the eagles. Didnt work out, but hey he tried.

  • @bonniepoullos1781
    @bonniepoullos1781 4 года назад

    Not knowing makes things way more interesting and scary not knowing what they are makes for the best of villians just like Vader in the original we had no clue who hecwas

  • @spencerstrickland5266
    @spencerstrickland5266 3 года назад

    I web-surfed for mythical beasts and I am 100% certain that the 'fell beasts' are cockatrices, or once were. Morgoth or Sauron most likely bread them to develop more dragon-like head rather than rooster heads. But since they had beaks in the books, the beasts probably were uncorrupted cockatrices.

  • @enclavesoldier.565
    @enclavesoldier.565 6 лет назад +1

    Theory: the nazgul initially was being a messenger but, it sensed the ring and immediately changes course to scan the area.

  • @toasterpastries5811
    @toasterpastries5811 6 лет назад

    I like to think they were dinosaurs. Judging by the description, they were most likely some kind of pterosaur, except being much larger (the largest pterosaurs were pteranodons, which had an 18ft wingspan).

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  6 лет назад

      +Carlos Smith They are by far the most dinasaur-like creature in Middle-Earth, can't think of any other that comes close

  • @Tralman1965
    @Tralman1965 6 лет назад

    Excellent study!

  • @mickkimmings6186
    @mickkimmings6186 5 лет назад

    He sent orcs to raid nests in some mountain. ... also had orcs steal black horses from Rohan....

  • @leviewhite666
    @leviewhite666 6 лет назад

    Should do a video on wargs and werewolves

  • @thesadisticelf5659
    @thesadisticelf5659 5 лет назад +3

    When I was little I thought fell beasts were called nazgul. Because in the movie the witch king says "don't get between the nazgul and his prey"

  • @alexlemonds2838
    @alexlemonds2838 4 года назад

    7:54. Helllllooooo woodland nymph! 😍💕💕

  • @Ragnarok6664
    @Ragnarok6664 6 лет назад

    A bit of a pity that they might look fearsome but they all fell without much effort, they’re still mysterious..

  • @lambdaweaponscache5394
    @lambdaweaponscache5394 3 года назад

    The reason I loved lord of the rings as a kid 😂

  • @TheInstinctWithinV2
    @TheInstinctWithinV2 5 лет назад

    Oh wow. This also makes the Nazul come across as intelligent elite soldiers rather than just some dark evil force of nature that appear when they need to be scary. Which I actually kinda like more.

  • @bitrock3
    @bitrock3 5 лет назад

    Who wins a fell beast vs dragon fight?

  • @freddypedraza2066
    @freddypedraza2066 5 лет назад

    How many fallbeast would it take to kill Smaug ? 🤔

  • @flournoymason8961
    @flournoymason8961 5 лет назад

    I wish Tolkein had described Mordor after the fall of Sauron.

  • @zacharywood185
    @zacharywood185 5 лет назад

    You should do one of all the beasts of middle Earth. The stone Giants, the dragons, cave trolls, more about orcs because I love them 😂. But over all the beasts or middle Earth please

  • @PooooLsharK
    @PooooLsharK 6 лет назад

    Although i like the design of the movie fellbeasts, i would have loved for peter to be a bit more daring and give them a look like the monster in the movie "The Giant Claw".

  • @MrHort55
    @MrHort55 5 лет назад

    When you said Gandalf told theoden to damp all lights to avoid air attacks i got confused, nazguls see better in the dark I thought

  • @simonboyce2235
    @simonboyce2235 2 года назад +1

    When I was a Child I always thought They where Dragons