Looking For AWD? The 2024 Kia Seltos Has The Lowest MSRP In America with AWD Standard
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- AWD Might be standard, but it's not on every Seltos. Say what? Yep, the lineup is complicated. Complex lineup aside, the Seltos is one of the best small SUV/CUVs in America. It's roomy, the turbo finally gets a real 8-speed automatic, fuel economy is solid and it has the best tech in the segment.
In essence a customer has a decision to make: do you want features like the big screen LCD dash, power seats, and extra safety tech? Or do you want AWD? If you want both, then the Seltos isn't as inexpensive anymore but it's still a strong contender for the Crosstrek and CX-30.
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One of the reasons I love your videos is that you provide practical critiques, like where to store the cargo cover 13:20. I'm glad it fits down there too
I went with the seltos ex awd. Acceleration off the line is very good in sport mode and drives very smooth especially coming from a forte. I love it so far.
Does the ex have heated front seats and side mirrors? Does it have LED head lights? Thanks.
That's good to hear. I'm test driving one thud week. I was wondering about engine performance.
Does yours surge sometimes from a complete stop? Mine does it's annoying sometimes to
@@silver33 Yes it does. We bought ours last night. The AWD package adds $2,200 and comes with the sunroof.
I feel the Seltos and the CX30 are easily the best in class. Sadly sales figures will always favor the dull Honda and Toyota offerings because Americans just buy whatever Honda and Toyota sell regardless. I appreciate Kia for making such a complete offering that is also fun to drive in the SX trim.
I'd be completely embarrassed to be seen in the Seltos competitors from Honda and especially Toyota. The Corolla Cross? What a joke 🤣🤣🤣
@@DeadofWinter321I’d rather get the Kia or Honda over Toyota. At least Hondas better quality and drives will
Sticker prices haven’t mattered in years. With dealer markups, rebates etc the price can change a lot. Dealers need to find ways to make expensive/fancy/luxury features cheaper. Prices are getting to crazy that dealers are even turning away shipments of new cars. With that said I like the seltos just wish it had the panoramic roof from the sportage.
The data shows that things are getting back to normal slowly. Kia has gone from av average markup tio an average $1,000 discount for the last quarter on a national average basis.
@@AAutoBuyersGuideKia dealerships have irreparably damaged their brand with the markups the last few years. Got my sister a 23 CX-30 Base for $400 under sticker so it was under $24K including destination.
does your sister like it? is it fun to drive?
@DM72513 Markups is not Kia's problem. It's our economy! Even Toyota is taxing like a mutha on markups!
Seltos gets panoramic sunroof in India. But no AWD unfortunately.
I absolutely love my 2024 Seltos SX. It’s a perfect sub compact suv/crossover for me. Roomy. Peppy. A great looking car. Kia rocked it.
No hybrid, no deal. 24 mpg is not good enough in 2023. No mention of how slow the non-turbo models are with only 148hp. No adaptive cruise in any but the top trim is nuts.
Hi Alex, great review of the Seltos, I would love to see a similar review of the Kia K5 especially how it compares with other AWD sedans in the same price category.
Its a sad decision by Kia management to not have LED headlights on all trims. Alex you should ad a category on lights. And ding them to F when they dont offer on all trims.
I just bought the 2024 ex awd with the 2.0L and I love it. Relatively quick and good handling with plenty of room for a guy who's 6 foot 250lbs. Something to note is the 2.0L will get you 29-31 mpg.
Hello from Ontario, Canada. I got the '24 Seltos SX & i love it. Lots of pep & fun to drive.
Probably my favorite crossover in the segment along with the hrv and cx30
All three of them have nice exteriors, high quality interiors, excellent fit / finish, great tech, lots of room great handling, etc
HRV could have been better though. They made is so much more massive and heavier, but it lost the cool practical folding seats of the last gen. Also its still really slow. But I do think its an okay sacrifice if instead of a civic hatch, you wanted a taller and bigger car.
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 It should've got the 1.5 turbo but that would probably eat into CR-V sales, hopefully a hybrid is on the way and could get a full digital screen gauge, not a fan of the half screen that it currently has.
Naveen, I agree with you about the Seltos and CX-30 but not the Honda HRV. HRV is a huge disappointment. TheTopher said it took him almost 13 seconds to do 0-60 in the HRV. That's unacceptable!
@@braetonwilson4296 I’m sure it’s less than 13. Otherwise that would make it slower than a Mitsubishi Mirage or ford eco sport
Great video. I see these cars are close in terms of price, comfort, and performance. In terms of style and looks, the Seltos outclasses them with a fierce design without overdoing it.
The graphic at 7:50 was really helpful, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Its a shame that USA does not get the Memory Driver Seat, Passenger Power Seat, Vented Seats, or the HUD that are on the Canadian Seltos, but that's how the USA / Canadian marketing goes. I am in the third year of my 2021 Seltos SX Turbo, fortunately with the Dual-Clutch Transmission, which is Faster & more economical, BUT does the same low range searching for gears thing that my Corvette does and for the same reasons. So, probably smart for KIA to just give "the people" what they want rather than try to explain it to people. Love my Seltos ( and Corvette ); thanks for another great Review.
I have a 2018 Kia Soul ! with all the bells and whistles. I also have a seven speed duel clutch turbo transmission and it's a blast to drive and like your vehicles (what body style is the Vette? Plus how have you been liking the Seltos? I'm possibly looking to get a duel clutch one) it does that low gear searching. I wish Kia would keep it cause fuel economy is great and fun to drive honestly but sadly I don't think there are enough folks like us who understand it. So I do see why Kia has changed things up in both the Kia Soul and Seltos. I have to say what another awesome review.
Thanks for the comparison chart at the end. I hope to buy a corolla cross some day, this video was helpful to know the potential competition. Great stuff as always, Alex.
Make sure to get the Hybrid Corolla Cross when you do buy!
I don't recommend Corolla Cross because you will likely pay 3-5k over MSRP in dealer markups and forced accessories. Toyota is purposely not producing enough Corolla sedans, Corolla Cross SUVs etc. because they want to keep supply low, demand high, and prices high.
@@braetonwilson4296Well said my friend well said
Great review!
Would love to see an updated Ford Maverick review with the Ecoboost engine.
Seltos is an appealing crossover and looks even better after the refresh. I've never heard of these "Hollow Gin" headlights on the base model, though. 🤣
Man, I wish the Seltos offered a sunroof as well as adaptive cruise control on lower trims and without having to get all-wheel drive.
I'm actually intrigued by this new Seltos. And the fact it has ventilated seats is very unheard of in it's class. I love how Hyundai/Kia gives you technology driven features that make you feel like you bought a premium car without the premium price. I love the ambient lighting features as well. I don't think any of the competition has it, besides the upcoming new 2024 Kona. Now thats a vehicle I can't wait to see a review of!! 10s across the board for the Kia Seltos!!
This car is fantastic. A friend bought one and loves it. The interior is super comfortable, and the cargo space and passenger space is fairly large for such a compact footprint.
Raheem, I agree with you. This top trim Seltos SX is like an expensive $60k luxury car in the features and tech it has. No wonder the Kia Seltos is popular all over the world, it sells well in India for example!
@@mementomori29231 same here. Picked up An ex and love it.
For real. I love my sonata 2.0 turbo limited.
Plus they have 5 year warranty and then 10 year powertrain warranty
Thankyou Alex. At last someone acknowledges the poor rear suspension in the CX30.
Love my 2022 Seltos EX but am really excited to see what the 2025 version will look like!!! Thank you
I love the 'stealth fighter' speaker grills.
My only two choices f the four are the Corolla Cross and the Seltos, and I list the CC first because of the 'hybrid option . . . . not a huge fan of the new HR-V, very been a fan of the Crosstrek; drove one & did not like the feel of the CVT and seats, and that reliability scares me . . . I know a lot of people with Crosstreks, a few swear by them, one swears by them despite issues with his CVT and the last one was left stranded on the freeway in his three year old Seltos wth something engine wise that was never properly explained to him. He is now in a Tuscon.
My 2017 crosstrek was great for the first two and a half years, after that it been one thing after another in terms of needed maintenance and repairs. Its been a great little car, great fuel efficiency but I really didn't expect it to need more work than the vehicle it replaced, which was a 2008 chevy Silverado.
I'm going to be using that keyless entry more than AWD, that's for damn sure.
Alex what’s your take os this compares to new new Chevy Trax/Buick Envista? If you don’t need AWD of course
Nice and complete review ❤
That looks very enticing. Good looking bodystyle.
I got a great deal on an SX with the ventilated seats package. Vehicle was used and only has 2000 miles. Got it for only $27,900. Picking it up next week.
It is really sad that this small Kia SUV doesn't really get any better mpg than the Sorento.
Oh, the whole wireless CarPlay thing. If you read the CarPlay audio specifications, when operating wireless CarPlay, the bluetooth audio is switched to maximum audio compression, which can give you that 'jangle' of low bitrate audio files. But if you are just attached with Bluetooth audio, not CarPlay, you get a more modern compression.
Thanks for this comprehensive review. We have been looking for something slightly smaller than our CR-V, the HR-V is boring and underwhelming, Toyota dealers are playing pricing games thus eliminating the Corolla Cross, the Crosstrek was a serious contender but we’re in AZ and have pets so the absence of rear seat vents (especially interesting for a car company that has dogs in many of their ads), and we had been considering the Niro for its interior dimensions and excellent fuel economy but alas no AWD (which our CR-V has) so now that you have reviewed the refreshed Seltos we are going to check it out. Thanks again
If you can, hold out for the Hybrid HR-V.
@@afcgeo882 HE SAID THE HR-V IS BORING!! STOP SPOON FEEDING THIS MAN FOR SOMETHING HE DON'T WANT!!
@@jraheemjefcoat429 The HR-V hybrid is MUCH faster and less boring. Now… go take your meds.
@@afcgeo882 If you think going 0-60 in 13 seconds is fast, then maybe you need to be committed!!
@@jraheemjefcoat429 Why are you trolling?
The 2.0 regular HR-V does it in 9.4 seconds, not 13. Still slow in my opinion, but not 13 seconds.
The hybrid HR-V does it in 7.5 seconds.
Steve Hammes & his Daughter said this was loud inside especially on the highway.
Thats because Steve’a hearing aid was turned up to max volume
Can u do a video on the Kia soul please 🙏
How reliable do you think this 1.6 turbo with the 8 speed tranny would be??.which is better ..this or the 2.0..
Bring me electric seltos kia with wireless android and apple connections, we're in 2023 right ? Thanks Alex for your competive and trim level chart
Does the base model have the same amount of NVH insulation as the other trims? Or is it noisier? Manufacturers don’t advertise if their base models have less insulation and NVH features.
Ventilated Seats are very helpful.
Alex...great review as usual, but you made one of your RARE mistakes. The Seltos is not the cheapest new vehicle in the U.S. market with AWD. That honor goes to the Subaru Impreza, which is about $1500 cheaper to start, although the Impreza lacks the ground-clearance of a true crossover.
I recently drove the Hyundai Kona with the turbo engine top of the line model and the turbo drag was terrible. I wonder how the SX trim of the Seltos turbo model compares to the Kona. Also the only way you can get a power tailgate with the Seltos is with the sunroof package otherwise it is a manual tailgate and I've noticed most 2024 SX MODELS that have shipped to Florida do not have the sunroof. I find this kind of strange. Also no power passenger seat in any trim level.
I use sport mode from a dead stop & get no lag. Smart mode has a noticeable lag.
Alex 50 degree weather is T Shirt weather. Just too funny a jacket.
Kia should include trim level emblem on the car especially the SX...
thanks
We have a 22 Seltos SX and we love it. If only we can stop people from crashing into it.
Nice car at a reasonable price. Crazy. :)
even with destination, the sportage price is wrong. 26k+1k destination = 27k.I didn't check the other ones
I find it odd that here in Canada, SX trim gets HUD and memory seat but not in US?
The KIA Carnival is the opposite - the top end US trim has seat position memory, but not the Canadian one. No idea who makes these decisions.
Agree, no HUD especially an odd miss - but memory seats too - given its availability in other non-US markets. The good news is, looks like it would be easy for them to retrofit at least the HUD in an early refresh (maybe even earlier with a dealer install?) given the otherwise irritating cut out (line) Alex pointed out.
in general, canadian cars get more features than american cars. canadian corollas get heated seats standard for example.
@@braetonwilson4296 that's a bad example. Make sense to have heated seat and steering wheel standard up north...
gets real cold in many parts of the usa too, yet no standard heated seats
Given the lack of true differences, the 2023 SX trim might be a better value if the used car pricing is decent.
The MPG is pretty terrible for both the base and turbo engine
It's pretty similar to the competition.
@@AAutoBuyersGuideHR-V is 26/32, Corolla Cross hybrid gets 42, although without a hybrid it’s 32. CrossTrek gets 28/33… Only the Bronco Sport sucks as much ad the Seltos.
🗣IF YOU WANT BETTER FEUL ECONOMY, BUY THE KIA NIRO!!
16:40 my ocd would simply not allow me to buy this car because that infotainment screen is not centered straight lol.
It's supposed to be curved for intuitive reach and operation.
The other day while driving, we saw a few. Mind you on freeway , Looks a bit small. We have the atlas sport with two babies in car seats so enough room for them. We want to trade it in for something nice, But that offers room for our babies and some good tech. Anyone have one with babies that fit car seats comfortably? Thank you in advance
I feel you’re giving HR-V a hard time lol. Yes it’s boring, but where else in this segment to find slim-looking LED tail lights standard from the base trim? Even its brother CR-V is missing LED this gen lol.
0-60 in 13 seconds? Yes, Alex reasons are valid. It's slow af and BORING!!
@@jraheemjefcoat429 numerous buyers don’t care LOL; besides, keep spreading fake information online! Your 13s is simply wrong
TheTopher, an excellent car reviewer, said it took him 13 seconds to do 0-60 in the 2023 Honda HRV.
this is one of my fav little suvs but i dont consider it premium in any fashion.
I mean, it has ventilated seats. No class in that segment has it
I considered that premium in away.
Compared to some brands it’s premium. It’s as premium as a Honda Mazda etc
I'm thinking of buy a new 24' Kia Seltos SUV.
I was interested in a Seltos S, since I don't need the AWD, but from 2023 to 2024 they increased the price by about $2,000, which is absurd. It was about $24k and now it's $26k. It's not even a full redesign, just cosmetic updates. This is supposed to be their entry-level CUV. Dumb move. It is now slightly more expensive than a comparably equipped Honda HRV. This is a nice CUV, but a Kia priced higher than a comparable Honda? Nope. Makes no sense.
Honda HRV takes 13 seconds to do zero to 60 according to TheTopher. That's unacceptable.
KIA Soul is their entry CUV!
@@braetonwilson4296 yeah I hear the HRV is underpowered. It'll probably outlive the Seltos though.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 Soul is more of a tall hatchback than a CUV, IMO.
@palebeachbum It's still classified as a CUV, like it or not. Their interior dimensions are close to the Honda HR-V.
Wow… the base is really underpowered for its size. Glacial.
The back looks like baby Explorer.
The new Kona has this thing handily beat in terms of tech, but the interior is just slightly less nice.
I prefer the Kona.
what’s up with the Hyundai Kona 2024? why is no one reviewing it?
It's not out yet, we will all be driving it in September.
@AAutoBuyersGuide There's a dealership in NC that has one out now. A RUclipsr is actually going to review it this week.
Correction: RUclipsr MikeCarInfo already reviewed, and test drove the new Kona 2 days ago.
Where I don't like about many current SUVs is the squintingly small windows. Makes the car looks taller from outside but terrible to be inside
They should offer LX FWD for $23K.
Love the fact Kia gives more inside this vehicle than Toyota. Toyota is stingy.
Having the lowest MSRP means nothing if the Kia dealers purposely don't carry any vehicles in stock to test drive AND THEY expect their customers to bring a hefty deposit AND ORDER A SELTOS. I even had a Kia salesperson tell me they weren't interested in giving me a quote and info by email...I tried dealers in Oklahoma and Kansas, to hell with Kia! Why are there dealers anyway if they expect me to order a car and wait 5 months? I'll stay with my dependable 2001 Honda Accord for now.
Mazda Cx-30
And no towing capacity rating from KIA for USA models. That's sad for a SUV. Even Toyota has enough confidence in the Corolla Cross to give it a 2000 lb towing rating for USA models. If the manufacture won't rate it for towing no matter how small the lb rating is don't go to dealer for warranty work because your having a transmission problem with a trailer hitch installed on it.
But would you own a Kia for several years? They just don't hold it, 10/100 warranty be damned.
The cx30 base is cheaper with AWD
Alex NEVER tests a base trim anything. Dammit we are out here. Why can't we see a review of the trim we can afford. I often believe reviewers do not want to drive a base model. Call it snobbery, I guess.
The horrible fuel efficiency of the Seltos makes it a ridiculous choice, which is why so few people are buying it. Too many better options out there.
Such a Genius
@@katmanjenks1961 It’s funny that EVERY comment you ever make is trolling.
But he’s right. 24mpg for a car aimed at the lower price market isn’t good at all.
What are the better options?
@@DeadofWinter321 Literally every car in the segment other than the Ford Bronco Sport gets better fuel economy.
Nice car, but I wish they didn't have to use gloss black on the climate control.
The turbo tiny engine has gas mileage more like a V8 on the freeway. Folks, this is the year 2024. The engine reputation?
I can't handle the hissing S's
Thank you for telling everyone 👍
Not an suv is obviously not an suv and you pushing such a ridiculous lie is insulting when you know better
Cant stand that grille. Oof
Add the price of a car alarm/immobilizer +installation +insurance premium or hope there are no KIA boys in the area
That’s already fixed. You shouldn’t let that one thing stop you
Add $3K dealer greed markup around me. Uncompetitive MPG too. Goodbye KIA.
You act like Kia is responsible for dealer markups. Take that up to your local Congressman or Senator!
Read my comment: DEALER greed.
@B9M3 I've read your comment. It's not KIA fault that you don't know how to shop around, Sir. I don't know why you're dismissing KIA. You're gonna run the same problem with Toyota!
@@jraheemjefcoat429 Speaking only from where I am located (ny/nj region), all the kia dealers are marking up higher than toyotas'. I am not having a hard time finding toyotas marked up at most msrp. Now.....if you are asking me if there is a wait or inventory problem with getting a toyota, that I am not going to argue because there is a wait for certain models but I find getting a toyota at msrp or perhaps lower is much easier than a kia which is ridiculous.
@acuintegra Like Alex said in one of his comments. Dealer markups are regional based on where you live. Toyota markups are bad in the metro Atlanta area.
"More engaging" = less comfortable. No thanks. Smart people prefer comfort.
Why would anyone want ANY Kia? Besides, aren't they easily stolen? Do they charge extra for that feature or is it now a factory-included option?
-- BR
I think that's the biggest knock on the Alex's video. Sure, it's the "lowest" price msrp awd SUV but problem is Kia dealers are charging a premium for them. After mark-ups, OTD price may vary so that msrp price may not even matter.
Kia has an average of $1000 in incentives as of last quarter. While markups may exist on some models in some regions, it's no longer happening on a national basis. Also: its not possible to comment on someone's out the door costs in a direct fashion because of these national variances, .
It's cheap for a reason.
Usually cars look better in real life, however, im consistently surprised by how ugly these are in real life. Not quite Hyundai Venu levels of vomit, but close lol. They're other cuvs, telluride/sportage/sorento are all lookers though.
KIA over toyota anyday.
I think all of us would take Kia or Hyundai over Toyota. You’d have to not have any sort of physical sense to choose Toyota over the competition
@@naveenthemachineHey Naveen you’re a popular guy in forums. We had a good ole laugh in another review and the consensus is you need to start selling Merch my man.
Can't afford the fire insurance
In Consumer Reports OWNERS suvey the Seltos is 6th place of LEAST satisfied owners of all vehicles on the market.
Consumer reports is paid out by manufacturers to say good things. that’s been a known fact for a long time.
Consumer Reports is a scam. JD power is a better source than some toyota paid source.
It was an OWNERS survey, learn how to read ffs
It was about OWNERS saying BAD things@@joetaylor1043
MSRP is irrelevant for regular customers. All that really matters is OTD price. Kia dealers are horrible and average (don't comment if you don't understand the meaning of the word average) mark-ups and add-ons are among the highest. Average OTD price will be MUCH higher than Mazda and Subaru.
Edit: And if you want LED headlights or ACC you have to pay 31k+ MSRP for the Kia? Both features are standard on the cheapest base version of Mazda CX-30.
If a car excels all around it’s worth it. If a car is too compromised it’s not worth paying a markup
you are a well known troll@@naveenthemachine
Where can someone search for and find average OTD prices?
There are a few random resources like COX automotive, they put Kia’s markup as about industry average for last quarter
But the CX-30 is not the roomiest in the segment, either. So there's that.
If you don't know the pricing of 24 Mazda CX-30 you can't say the Seltos has the lowest price... It makes no sense to say it has the lowest when the Mazda's could be lower.
I’d say you can. If a vehicle doesn’t yet have a price, it isn’t included in any price comparisons. When that information becomes available, the situation can be reassessed.
WRONG
As long as the 24 price of the cheapest 23 model are not available it makes no sense to just pretend another model is cheaper just bc they released the pricing earlier. It's just clickbait.
It’s an educated guess as someone who has been working in the industry for over a decade. Mazda has been dropping base models and raising prices as we just saw when CX-50 just dropped the base trim for 2024
@@AAutoBuyersGuideThat's how you tell'em, Alex! Way to go!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I like my Seltos 2024 not sure about affordability 30k haha only thing I don't like is the surges it does from a complete stop 🗯️
Ventilated Seats are very helpful.