City Road - Hidden London Hangouts (S05E19)
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2022
- The team (minus Siddy) visit City Road, between Angel and Old Street, which had a very short life as a working station but has served the community in different ways throughout the years.
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With all this talk of City Road I'm surprised Alex didn't manage to mention 'pop goes the weasel' (but perhaps he saved that up for the Patreons?).
Regular watchers will spot this (44:20) Alex, “I know that Siddy absolutely loves…. wine.” Great gift and timing Alex! Chris thank you for leaving it in the edit and well done Laura for not cracking too. Your shows are just the best and you’re lovely people too. Thank you all.
I’m so glad you noticed! Nix chortled as I said it
Yes, we loved it
Equally humble left-in-the-edit coz we're human
Chris has informed me that I missed the tiles up above.
We didn't!
I once had a Northern Line mug from the LT museum with “Mornington Crescent now open”
I went there a while back, and all those memories are now flooding back.
I went there about 15 years ago. I don’t remember much even though we took a few pics. It is an amazing place isn’t it?
That shot of the Southbound train was stunning. Brilliant video and love the reuse of the hot air. I happen to love the new building there too.
That incoming southbound platform shot though…
Loved this! I have become enchanted with these videos. Only problem is, that they make me so homesick for London.
Many years ago I had a copy of the instructions for hand winding the original Otis lifts. From memory I think it took six people, two to lift the brakes and four to wind. The machines had two shafts didn’t they, each of which had a square at one end to which fitted a large wheel for winding. Also from memory, each lift had two supplies so if one failed they could switch over to the other and if the mechanism itself failed the other lift car in the same shaft could be brought to the same level, a door in the back of each car opened and the passengers transferred over to the still+ working car.
Even longer ago I was actually taken by an engineer to the machine room at, I think, Elephant and Castle when the original lifts were still installed there.
The lift machine rooms even now are fascinating. Take a look at our Kennington and Hampstead episodes for lift rooms in each
on a visit today thru Rotherhithe tunnel, I discovered these C&SLR tiles on the walls of the tunnel. One area needs an artist to paint the Mauve/Black on to the white tiles where they have repaired part of the wall. Must visit.
A dusty visit to a very disused station, lovely stuff as always!
Another wonderful episode and Alex think you.ll have to take your bucket and sponge with you down there . Oh and as names go i suggest (dirty) Gertie grundon .
Keep up the good work guys.
Warren ..
Nice nice.
2 things. i believe the uniforms like the one shown in the 1924 poster with the 'guard ? 'yellow pin strip ? were given or brought by the LCC Ambulance service (L.A.S). I'm not sure on dates or whether these were surplus if new uniforms were coming in for Underground staff mid to late 50's. I know the LCC were introducing a new Glass fibre Ambulance which came into service in 1957 and staff were wearing the uniforms by this date.
Teesside (Cleveland) have a couple of classic buses in blue and cream which are brought out for events. Haven't seen them since lockdown eased though,
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I would like to comment on several of the subjects covered by your videos
1) Post Office Railway I remember this being visible from above through a viewing opening at the Festival of Britain
2) Smoke in underground Stations When the North Clyde was first electrified there were problems with the electrical equipment on the Blue Trains (class 303) and they were temporarily withdrawn. To cover for this Steam Locomotives were used with hauled stock working into Glasgow Central Low Level (they wanted to keep Queen Street Low Level clean. The smoke and sulphur dioxide hanging around in the atmosphere was horrible.
3) Isle of White The end of the line at Ventnor I remember the loco had to come on to a turntable to run round (it turned about 12th of a full turn) There wasn't room for a headshunt.
Always love these tidbits of info. Thank you
Wear your masks! Brake dust is a concern with still air. It's geometrically more of a concern with the air pressure being sustained through those tunnels!
Incredible footage though. The recovery efficiency/ratio of the heat harvesting is profound. Must Google further on that, that same heat gradient when pumped can also be used for cooling!
Just did an internet search to get engineering background on the above claims:
[...][At the core of the new energy centre is a 1MW heat pump that will recycle the otherwise wasted heat from a ventilation shaft on the Northern line of the London Underground network at the City Road station, which then transfers that heat into the hot water network. During the summer months, the system will be reversed to inject cool air into the tube tunnels.]
[...]
Search: "Northern Line heat exchange to warm 1,000 homes"
I'm looking forward to it coming to Mornington Crescent (Alderney) my nearest tube station!
Another fab episode. What a tremendous idea of reclaiming the heat. Always love a shot where a train goes past - it connects the past to the present. Keep the good work up.
I roared with laughter as I read your comment - take a look 🤣🤣
@@alexgrundon2346 yes, I loved it too
@@alexgrundon2346 oh goodness ! How embarrassed am I ! Have now edited as don’t want people to get the wrong idea about me - lol.
It was a beautiful mispront! Loved it x
These videos are, let's be honest here, absolutely brilliant. This particular episode really affected me like no other. This station really spoke to me like no other. Even with the copious amounts of dust, is brilliant! Outstanding.
hi all- looking forward to the city road
Excellent footage team, 23.07 was the height of that shaft, I remember workman fares or EMS’s on the buses in the 60’s at Brentwood, had seen the platforms of the old station when they had guards on that 73 stock, platforms much were I thought much shorter, been many-a-time when I wanted that station to re open.
Been reading up: It was closed to enable the diameter of the tunnels to be increased from 10 ft 6 in (3.20 m) to the Underground's standard diameter of 11 ft 8 + 1⁄4 in (3.56 m), so that larger and longer standard stock trains could be operated.
Did you know that station building remained until sometime in the 1960s, when all but the structure immediately around the original lift shaft was demolished?, and that in 2015, they demolish the remaining station building for phase 2 of Islington Borough Council's scheme to heat the nearby King Square council estate.
Hi Jack. Yup that’s pretty much exactly what Chris said in the episode. Looks nice now
@@alexgrundon2346 Hi Alex, a boiling hot day here in town, wondering whether TfL will close some stations to save money?.
It costs a fortune to close stations, especially temporarily, so I’d expect not
I have found my people! I've loved the tube even before living in London, it's great to find you guys who have given me some amazing insights and a depth of knowledge, I would love to see future episodes on Bond st and Ealing Broadway which are very dear to me, thank you all for you magical programmes!
Welcome! Bond St Liz line coming in a couple of weeks!!!
@@alexgrundon2346 thank you, I worked in hmv near bond st, can't wait to revisit next year (especially as the woodstock pub has reopened around the corner!) Thank all the team for this incredible series!
Hi guys
Are you or have you done Museum station?
Just want to thank all of you for doing these shows! People with the same genuine passion for the UndergrounD as I’ve had since I first travelled on it as a boy in the mid 1970’s! But what makes this so special is the way the 4 of you get on so well and present this with such a happy enthusiasm. Absolutely love it!!!!
Keep them coming😀👍
excellent episode! so sorry i couldn't watch it live
Bell ringing? Ooh, looking forward to that! And Bond Street ElizzaRail station porgress? Really exciting. :D
Bond St is recorded and really cool. Bell ringing slightly delayed due to a covid outbreak.
A few years back I was travelling over this stretch of the line every day. I always made a point of watching out for City Rd, either from a window if I was close enough, or by sensing the gradient change or the pressure change from the platform tunnels. I had no idea the accompanying tunnels were so extensive though.
I also saw the remaining surface structure just before demolition and was sad to see it go. Not so now I understand what they've done in its place. This has to be a model worth rolling out network wide.
So, it wasn't an island platform then, Like the Angel? They should do something similar on the Central line, with all that heat :-)
Wonderful use of the former station, so is there potential recycle ventilation shafts from other parts of the tube network to convert to energy?
Very much pre 1923 that map. Notice all the main line interchanges are pre grouping acronyms - GE, LB&SC, etc'. Fascinating video. Drag name ? Bona Street ?
Love the old tiles great space there
Maybe Dame Dusty Wipes or Marilyn Moquette.
Brilliant video and great reuse of an abandoned station keep them coming looking forward to seeing more
Haha, I love the typo!
I’m watching this one in a very hot flat in Barcelona. I have a fan switched on full blast and it’s making the experience all the more authentic! 😂
What a great episode. I think I’d be terrified stood underneath that huge fan. Like being next to a jumbo jet engine. Looking forward to the Patreon peek 😀
Brilliant episode yet again. Your Channel is my most watched media.
I had been waiting with bated breath for a look at City Road.
As for Mornington Crescent, I had two spells there as Station Foreman in the 80's and behind one of the platform doors there was a very strange set of Edwardian equipment including a glass encased table of moving electrical items that looked like something out of Flash Gordon - if only I took some photos at the time.
Worth a Hangout, do you think? I adore your former station, Peter
@@alexgrundon2346 Alex, it's worth someone with a set of keys to check it out first.
It all looks like an alien movie set, mega impressive.
No doubt a day late and a dollar short, but what a fascinating look at a locale I knew nothing about.
You’ve got my vote for a Shoreditch episode or two. There’s a lot to unpack there. Understatement for sure!
Really enjoyed this session of hangouts, I see a market for those dickie bows ... fantastic repurpose of the station to heat exchangers etc .
With the new deep level tube trains having air conditioning and the specific next few days (18 &19 July 22) heat on platforms is going to be dangerous. So two questions, are TFL planning to develop more heat transfer stations to remove heat and provide either heat to local people or maybe convert heat to electricity? And are there also plans to provide screen doors and air conditioning to deep level stations (of course cost would be massive)?
One problem with installing platform screen doors, is that only the Jubilee Line has trains capable of lining up with them. (That's why the Northern Line Extension stations have passive provision for them.
The second problem with installing platform screen doors is that there are far too many bent platforms on the system.
So you need a lot of investment (not cost) and a plan of works to adapt things in the right order.
One thing that might be useful, is for TfL to close a few stations, that are close to other stations, build escalators or travallators that take people from that station entrance to the next station along, and then use the old escalator shafts, lifts and stairs as a cooling point. (Or energy generating point.)
I think that Covent Garden station would be an excellent station to close. You can see Leicester Square, from the ends of the platforms, and TfL could build an escalator shaft from the London Transport Museum to Leicester Square, and then use the abandoned station for cooling. (Plus the PIcadilly Line trains would be slightly faster.)
Please welcome to the stage ‘Alexia Roundel’ 👠💄⭐️
Surely this could be replicated at York road disused owing to the regeneration of the area, Alex loving the Dickie Bow
I thought it wasn't possible to go down to where the platforms were anymore?
Is the cslr closed/reopened posterb with the ghost of the loco available in print? That's stunning!
Another fantastic episode. Great to see the old and new. An amazing new purpose for the station. As for a drag name for Alex it has to be Hangouts related. Alexis Angel?
Ellie Phantandcastle
Drag names for Alex, eh? Jean Park, Elle Ephantan-Castle, Deb Den, Raven Scourtpark, Hattie Cross, Beth Nalgreen... I'm sure there's more in there, heh.
Did you notice the number of flights on the closure poster arrow equaled the number of stations closing (including Borough) … coincidence?
Clever boy!
@@alexgrundon2346 oooh! Been a long time since I was referred to as a boy! I’ll take it! 😂
Thanks for another interesting episode.
A while ago I muttered that Alex's sound quality was a lot different from the others', deficient in treble. In this episode, where he's in Portugal, it's much better. So whether it's a different microphone or what, please keep it back home.
Partway through I was wondering how City Road came to have separate platforms even though it was never rebuilt from original condition. That was ALMOST explained by the discussion of wayleaves, but leaves open why there was more space available at City Road.
Are there any photos of the interior of the station when it was in use? I managed to get some photos of the exterior about 20 years ago when most of the station had been demolished and there was an air vent extension, but I would love to see the inside before it closed.
I would send Instagram, but it is now asking for my birthday, which is not their business. Alec was waxing lyrical about the reuse of an orangy brown on a poster, on the tree bark and lettering. Well, there is a practical reason for this: until the 1950s, each colour on a press was a separate pass through separately inked rollers. Each pass through the inked rolls were £££££, so many posters are one, two or three colours. I know that map presses might have as many as seven colours, each separately printed -- no mixing with cyan, magenta, and yellow -- each separately made inks. Economy again.
Indeed! It’s why the BBC dropped the three coloured bars from its logo in the 90s….cost saving on the letter headed paper!
And…can you “mistype” your DOB….?
@@alexgrundon2346 Only if I mistype it consistently, and I don't trust myself to do so, and they are banking on that.
25:00 Get melamine sponges and water. Melamine wont scratch glass tiles and cleans anything.
Alexandra Grinder or maybe Wendy Wetwipe :-)
WENDY WETWIPE 🤣🤣🤣
155 steps, equivalent to a 15 stories building
Alexia Grundies 💃
Another great video. How about doing Weston Rise’s history on the Northern line or is that too hidden?
Tell me more
@@alexgrundon2346 2nd try, don't know where thefirst went... Google Maps shows some unusual buildings on the corner of Weston Rise and Pentonville Road, this is the entrance to the shaft to the Northern Line tunnels underneath. When the line was built it had block signalling with each station being in its own block. This meant that a train could not leave Bank NB until the previous train had departed Moorgate, and so at every station. However the distance between Angel and Kings Cross is double that of the other sections so this would result in a much greater wait for the block to clear after every train. So an extra block was added by having a signal box at Weston Rise to restore the normal block size, I seem to remember that if you ride in the front cab you can see the tracks rise and then fall at Weston Rise like the track does at Central Line stations. It can't have been a pleasant place to work, lonely, noisy, hot, dusty etc. I have briefly explored at track level but had other things to do so didn't stay for long.
Is this a heat reclamation prototype for the whole of the tube system, or do other similar installations exist elsewhere?
I think it’s a one-off but isn’t it a genius idea
when's the 10th Elizabeth line video out?
(More seriously:) I was very interested by the shot of the former City Road surface building. It struck me that the general appearance, featuring red brick with white stone highlights and the occasional bit of decorative arch, was quite similar to the surviving Great Northern & City Railway stations (especially Essex Road). I've never been able to discover who designed the GN&CR stations (possibly nobody was willing to own up to it), but I was wondering whether there might be some connection? (ANYBODY?)
I thought that too. Esp Essex Road
Just how much electricity is wasted on the Underground ?
What do they use the heat for in the summer, when they don't need to heat the buildings?
I think they reverse the system so it cools rather than heats
Alex you'd have to be
Tina Tunneler.
Or Failing that
The further adventures of
Totty Tripcock.!...
TOTTY TRIPCOCK 🤣🤣🤣
Is City Road near to Essex Road station.
Kind of. 10 min walk to old street station and jump on national rail for one stop. You can walk to Essex road station from city road takes roughly 25 mins.
26:12 No, I'm sorry and I don't mean to be mean, banter I get it and so on, but we're here for the tube not the... [rhymes with] and the tiles Laura, whilst I'm having a dig!
Is City Road still an emergency exit for the tube ?
In absolute extremis
@@alexgrundon2346 thank you 😀😀😀
For names, Dusty Shafts? F'Lange Squeal?
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I heard your a fan of big shafts, so maybe Ms 11 Foot 8 and a Quarter
@@GazzaLDN As we all know, Gazza, that quarter makes all the difference. In a certain light….🤣🤣
A bit of class with the name: Madame Moquette or perhaps a lighter Maddie Moquette
I quite like Madame Moquette… as you say, classy !
Dusty Alexis or Dame Anybody as names
I think Amazon would object to the former.
Just watched this ... How about the drag name ... Dusty Tubes
Deidre Dustbunny
A lot of the dust down there contains iron filings ???? And you were both breathing it in - not wearing masks ? Blimey guys - be careful !!
I find some of the content on this channel boring and not boring at the same time...
I'm surprised you didn't wear filtration masks down there with all that grime, can't be good on the lungs!
Too much talk. Not enough see.
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