How Park Si-hun was ruined by the robbery of Roy Jones Jr.
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Olympic gold can be a powerful force for a boxer, but not for Park Si-hun. The 1988 Olympic champion is still trying to make up for a medal he won at the expense of the USA’s Roy Jones Jr..
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It was good to hear from Park that he as an athlete knew that he had lost the fight and was shocked that his arm was raised. His revelation shows the true nature of this honest and humble man. Wish more athletes were like Park.
It makes me sad to see that he thinks building a true gold medalist will restore his honor. His honor is just fine with me, he proved it after the fight. He's about as honorable as you could ask for in an athlete.
@@logicaldude3611 : if Park really wanted to prove his honor dude he would not raise his arms in victory or excepted the gold medal!
@@henryc1000 Its awarded, doesn't matter if he didn't physically take it.
@@YourKingJDG The bottom line here is that the result was a corrupt decision by the officials. The IOC should have overturned the verdict.
@@logicaldude3611 no sir , good men do something or evil wins... he could have easily not accepted it , and the real ones would know ... he is haunted by his own actions not someone elses
He hung his gloves after the fight. Celebrating the triumph was the most painful thing in his life, I guess. The gold medal killed his boxing career because he is a righteous man.
Stand up guy . Not his fault . He didn't try to feed into lie. He squashed it right away
He was celebrating right after "winning", though.
@@chadb7252 you would too if winning gold meant getting an exemption from the military draft
@@chadb7252 I remember him going over to Roy and lifting him up off the canvas.
It's hard not to celebrate a little bit when you win an Olympic gold meal, but he knew that he lost the fight.
Couldn’t say it more rigjt
@@chadb7252 okay so did aljamain sterling after petr yan whats ur point
It's almost sadder for Park then it was for Roy😞 One thing is for sure Park is a very respectful man
Not really. He cheated a world class athlete out of his opportunity to have his talents recognized. I think that stings even more knowing that was kept from you. He didn’t know he’d go on to be a legendary fighter, tomorrow isn’t guaranteed. I don’t feel bad for cheaters failing to succeed after they cheated.
@@brandonvasser5902 he didn't even cheat tho you weirdo. He didn't want to win that fight because he felt he lost.
@@brandonvasser5902 Bro did you even watch the video or are even familiar with this whole ordeal? The guy didn't cheat, the judges called the fight. Judges all call the fights period. Park recognizes back in 88 that he didn't win and even to this day he knows he doesn't deserve the medal. The only people that cheated Jones Jr. out of a Gold Medal were the judges.
@@aison4014 He should have given jones the medal during the ceremony but instead he kept it for himself
@@AkigumoCH u get fined thousands of dollars i heard
Them judge's need to be held accountable to this day!!!
They all got banned for life
@NUMBER ELEVEN Pacquiao did not win that fight against Mayweather. I agree with the other two but that one? No!
You mean the olympics
They were banned for life.
Man judges over the past 40 years of boxing have been involved in scandals. lol
It's weird how things work out in life,I respect the shit out of him tho. Some people will win a bullshit decision and ride with it. He denied it then and he still is,that's commendable
Major props for raising Roys hand, that’s a respectable move
Yeah it was
Yes it was, he could also have given him the gold medal at the podium in front of everyone
@@clarence6124 How naive are you? Korean higher ups who orchestrated the bribe would make him living in a nightmare if that happened.
Park Si-hun’s spirit is stuck in the past even though it wasn’t his fault, his life has never moved on from then.
this was a great video. Si-hun seems like a really good guy .
Shut up he raised his hands and accepted the gold medal he should’ve given it to Roy
@@blazer33x Are you joking?
Si-hun does not deserve either gold,silver, and bronze. His Olympic journey was totally "home cooking".
@@lumapas Nobody is disputing that
@@blazer33x he also told Roy that he knew he (Roy)won the fight.
Had his hand raised against his will immediately after the fight.
Also raised Roy’a hand at the medal ceremony....
But u just wanted to omit those parts huh?
Well I never thought I would feel sorry for a guy winning an Olympic gold medal but here we are! He seems like a decent and honorable man.
and there's the karate gold medalist today lol
@@ruffgodz9543 Yep
cuz he a coward, he was there .. all he had to do was like no sir i lost... he is haunted by hi actions not the judges
@@ruffgodz9543That guy is proud of getting knocked out for a gold too lol.
Yea ma’am I will
I was in Korea and watched this fight on television as it happened. The Korean commentators said the following: "This guy (Jones) is good!" "Every Korean boxer can learn from this man!" "The only way we can win is by knock out." When they announced the winner the entire stadium was stunned.
Lie..
Complete lie..
Entire Stadium was cheering the outcome.. national pride overshadowed righteousness..
Everyone who cheered the outcome should be ashamed... 🙏🙏
@@vikrantsood2053 You're absolutely right. He obviously hasn't watched the fight. The entire audience of Koreans broke into loud cheers when Park was declared the winner. To his credit, Park was probably the only Korean in that auditorium who didn't celebrate the "victory"
@@thebeatnumber I agree.. park knew that was lost outrightly.... And his sportsman's spirit didn't allow him to celebrate.. 🙏🙏
@@vikrantsood2053 im pretty sure every Olympic is corrupted asf and alot of nations do this as well not defending koreans at all but im just saying that the Olympics are too corrupted
@@vikrantsood2053 do you think that they cheered right after the man picked Ray Jones up off the ground in order to display with that he thought Roy Jones won and that he lost? I don't know because I wasn't even around back then. But you say that the entire crowd was cheering but someone else is saying they were doing the opposite. Now I have to go watch the decision and the reaction one more time and pay more attention. Roy Jones has been a record from the very very beginning of this travesty, by saying that the opponent recognized Roy Jones jr. As the winner within the ring and when they were in their locker rooms. I want you to flip the script. If the very exact same thing happened with in the USA, do you think the crowd would not be cheering for the American who got the decision? I mean absolutely one hundred percent flip the script! Please tell me do you believe that the American crowd would not cheer if an American just won the gold medal according to judges? I'm like everybody else that's probably seen this video and absolutely believe that Roy Jones jr. Got robbed. I do not know what happened at that moment they Rose the hand of the Korean. I definitely need to go back and actually watch that part of the video. I ask you one more time if you believe that if it had been a flip of the script, do you believe Americans would had booed the decision or would have cheered and American even if they knew he didn't really win? I have to go back and check this out because you have me curious as a youngin here. Never one person say that Roy Jones did not win the fight. Right now I plan to stop this and go watch the raising of the hands and then also listen to the crowd. I'm going to come back and I'm going to tell you exactly what I hear and see upon the raising of the hands and the crowd cheering at what point. So we got one person that says they were there and if the crowd was silent at the reason of the hand. Then there's you who says that the crowd was cheering. The only way for me to figure this out is to go back and watch the end of the fight. I'll definitely come back and tell you you're right or you're wrong. Not trying to be all combative and controversial but I got to actually see something as a young buck before I believe it when I got two different people making comments that are opposite
Park Si never lost any honor. The judges were dishonorable. I hate that this man had the weight of a decision he had no control over on his back since he was a teenager. He needs to speak to Roy personally so that his soul can be at peace.
I know honor is extremely important in Asian cultures and he was truly one of the most honorable athletes you could imagine. He congratulated and elevated (literally) his opponent who he knew had defeated him. It makes me sad to think that he quit boxing after that. He would have been a silver medalist at worst, he had a lot to be proud of. I hope he's had a good life.
That's actually the point. The gold medal ruined him because he didn't earn it and everyone knew it. Had Jones been announced the rightful winner, Park would have been honored to take home the silver. I have no idea how great Jones would have been without the extra anger from the Olympic snub had he won the gold, but Park's life would have gone much different if he came home a hero for winning the silver.
@@KHayes666 he didn’t deserve either. He was gifted wins in previous rounds too
@@claydouglas2526 I know, but outside of Italy (the previous gift) nobody would have cared if he had lost to Jones
Apparently, cheating is most important!
@@KHayes666 everyone forgets what real men do, they dont accept the medal an tell the truth
Give the guy credit for fully acknowledging he shouldn't have been awarded the gold medal.
Respect 100% I'm sure Jones respects this man, no doubt.
@April 2520 how are there so many people like you who hold a grudge against him even tho Jones himself said he doesn't?
@April2520 Lol he doesn't care about the physical medal. What he wants is to change the actual result.
It never ceases to amaze me when you see the injustice & don't fix it
He wasn't a bad guy, he wasn't *the* bad guy.
That’s honour right there, hope that man finds the glory that he chases
This is what Teddy Atlas always yelling about. This kind of corruption is wrecking the sport.
This poor guy was punished for a crime he didn't commit.
“CURSED by gold, ROBBED of silver. 5:10. That was a great line!
Any true boxing fan would respect this guy. He knew the decision wasn't the right one and lifted jones. Not his fault for corruption
And ROY became the World Champ. Kudos to Park for standing toe to toe and lifting Roy...he knows. Don't hate the players...hate the judges when it comes to decisions. Keep rockin!
He should have swapped medals & places on the podium, that would have been an incredible gesture.
I don’t think you can
@@Onepride5608 Why? What they gonna put you in jail if you do?
@@KushMyCologneee agreed... they can do nothing about it, and it is not a criminal offense.
To swap medals, I don't think anyone would be able to do that. You don't have that much time to think. The first instinct for any person is to do what's best for himself.
Korea would have gave him hell if he did that...
That takes some class to repeatedly say you didn't deserve to win and destroy your future in a sport. Would be nice to see Jones Jr. take him out for a steak
apparently they're ok w one another. there's a piece in the Guardian that quotes Jones as saying, "When I had that problem in South Korea, I went with an interpreter to face the guy I fought ... I asked him ‘Did you win that fight?’ He shook his head and said ‘No’. And then I was cool with it. If you tell me the truth, I’m cool.”
Why are the views on your high quality videos so low?
facts
It was 1988 lol
imagine your life destroyed by winning gold
If I was Roy, I would've found all of the judges one by one in an alley. They would've learned what punches won the fight and not to rob someone of the best athletic accomplishment of their life.
i still hope that the olympic commitee will honer jones with the golden medal he was robbed from in 88
That's never gonna happen and just water under the bridge at this point. Roy is still one of the Goats tho
I want to see Park reunite with Jones
100% agree.
You should look at how Park Si-hun made it to that finals in the first place. He didn't deserve Gold, Silver or Bronze.
What happened?
I bet 🤣
@@offbrandbret5868 you couldn't tell from the video?
Yup. He deserve nothing in this sport
@@peopleclash2161 How about respect? Or is that term totally "foreign" to you?
Always cool to hear both sides. Thanks for the video!!
What an honorable man! Much respect to you Sir!
This probably sparked a fire in Roy Jones to really dominate going forward and be savage in the ring. RJJ is a legend in boxing.
Poor guy it’s not even his fault at all and Roy Jones Jr said he asked Park after the match if he thought he won and even right after the match Park said he knew he had lost
Park Si Hun is trying to connect with Jones to give him the gold medal. He is a great guy. He is a fan of Jones and wants to do the right thing ☺️💯
He’s a humble guy who knows the truth. I commend him for his integrity.
I am boxer myself and I must admit that If I would be in this situation it would be soooo humiliating. The be defeated fairly and accept the defeat its nothing wrong with it. But this makes me feel like if you would stole something from others, cheat them but doing it unwillingly at the same time. And as Park said from sportsmen perspective becomes a silver olympic medalist is outstanding achievement and you can totally close your career at this point and feel fulfilled. You climbed on the very top of the top, he were one the giants of the sport, even if not the greatest of the greatest. Very sad story :( I hope Mr. Park feels better now and will get the respect you deserved as a man and as sportsmen.
What could he do?? He knew the decision was utter bs but he was just a young guy at the time
Thanks for posting this.
In the heat of the scandal, Si-hun kind of gets forgotten.
He was a legitimate silver medalist in a weight class that Asian fighters typically didn't compete in.
It's too bad that he is only remembered for being "The guy who Roy was robbed against".
He should have gone out way before the final, 3 other boxers were robbed before Jones
It is understood why he did not reject the medal at that time, since in his country he would have been expelled or imprisoned, he did not pay the judges, he just went to fight and it shows that he is a great person who is sorry for something he did not do .
He is from SOUTH Korea, not NORTH Korea hahaha.
@@TeacherDoug7South Korea was a military dictatorship for much of the 1980s, it was just one that the West favoured.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chun_Doo-hwan
The changes in the scoring system hurt boxing in the United States.
Amateur boxing became a game of "jab tag", and our pros have suffered for it as a result.
Roy landed way more punches in this fight anyways, those judges needed to be knocked out in a back alley.
This is a true statement amateur boxing is not as significant as it was in the past, particularly the olympic games. It's good for a showcase of talent but the problem is not only with the way the fights are scored but also the lack of quality judges. And payoffs and kickbacks. People who become judges need to be people of high integrity. It's happening in the professional ranks as well.
@@nicolas4you High integrity in the olympics? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣
@@TeacherDoug7 Yes high Integrity any judge really but in boxing you're playing with peoples career.
Park talking about he knew he didn't win. But yet he sure threw his hands in the air when announced as the winner. And he had no problem hopping up on the stand and accepting the gold medal. His actions don't match his words.
he lifted jones after the match and raised his arm at the medal ceremony. i think its clear what he was saying. nationalism is very strong in korea he probably didnt want to show up his country in front of the world.
Roy Jones Jr. in his prime was the GOAT. There are arguments for other career goats, Ali, Robinson , Armstrong, etc. But nobody was near as good as prime Jones. For a while. For a time, he was not just a beater of hall of famers, but a dominator of hall of famers.
Received the gold just to be blamed about it whole life, this guy's life was ruined big time. Actually he should have lost in QF against the italian. It's not his fault though, just a victim of Olympic sport bribery and corruption at the highest level, so the korean authorities to be pleased.
I'm Korean and yes that was a total robbery.
The guy has respect. He knows he lost and reiterates it.
What's a shame is he feels like he needs to restore his honor. The other three judges threw away their honor, Park always maintained it.
Si-Hun was ruined by his own country. He could’ve ran around bragging about how he beat an all-time great, etc.; but he took the high road and admitted that Roy deserved the gold medal. Park should be commended for this
That was the greatest olympic boxing performance I have ever seen. Park got a beat down.
He should be man enough to give Roy Jones the Gold medal. Make it official between two men!
I don't think it's that simple
they don't technically own the medals. I think they can gift them, but if he did it in this controversial way they'd probably take it. Same with grammy's, Oscars, etc. You don't technically own it.
@@supervegeta101 I don't think anyone in the Olympic committee would go after him for that. It's pretty much universally accepted they fucked up, why would they want that extra heat.
@@Future_Imperfect at the very least it would force them into some sort of a decision, even if it's a decision not to act.
@@avocadoo4387 it literally is, it's a made up game with made up rules and made up rewards. They can just give the medal to whoever if they wanted (sort of how they did when robbed this man of a clear win)
Park Si-hun is honorable for his admittance. There are athletes who won’t admit what he did.
In the future, true boxing champion will show up from Korea without any controversial judgment.
Evander Holyfield - 1984 Olympics
Roy Jones Jr. - 1988 Olympics
Mansueto Velasco - 1996 Olympics
Michael Conlan - 2016 Olympics
Nesthy Petecio - 2020 Olympics
Don't forger Rocky Juarez in 2000 where the Russian referee let Bekzat literally clinch the entire fourth round with no warning or points awarded to Rocky.
Park Si Hun is not what I thought he was.
Expecting a *"Could - not - careless - ex olympian"* opposing this genuine reality of a sorrowful man of morality & virtue...
The years of sudden condemnation has displayed the reminisce of a tragic journey not of his control or doing, from winner to villain for *Mr Hun*
I also hope he *(Mr Hun)* redeems himself his family name & indeed lives to carry on in his new quest to develop a genuine Olympic champion!
Sorry for the memory of corruption in this great sport & horrible experience for the young Jones... to acquire.
Incredible story, some day this will make an awesome Hollywood movie..
I once met a guy who was like that. He learnt his lessons and now he’s in a different school. I got the victory last year, but this time I’ve started as the normal type and will approach to my full potential. What I don’t like about him is his arrogance.
Young Man... Humble... Well Done... Bear No Guilt, my friend.
The judges robbed Park as much as they robbed Jones.
Give credit to Mr Park. he was man enough to admit what the fact was. He showed his respect and letting JR. knows he won the battle. Even i was a little boy, i was shamed of what had taken place when I saw the shocking outcome. And that brawl by the coaching staff....
Park seems like a good dude. Fucked up all the way around. If I was him I would send Roy Jones Jr my gold in trade for his silver. I couldn't live with myself knowing I didn't deserve that
Roy needs to reach out to him and let him know it’s okay. After all these years he’s haunted by what happened that night and he needs to be at peace
That Korean jumped for joy when he won even he knew that it was a robbery. Karma
Wow. Both fighters lost that night. What a shame. What's worse is that corruption is still plaguing this sport.
If nothing else, Park sounds like a real fighter with no bullshit. I hope he is doing 100% well today. This ain't no Teofilio nonsense in realizing what had happened between Park and RJJ.
Not only did they take Roy medal they stole the pride of both medals from each fighters
Dude didn't mention the biggest star to ever come out the Olympics. Sugar Ray Leonard
Jones turned Park into Korean stew
Wow what a great interview. I honestly never gave a thought to how he felt about it as i was pissed for Roy Jones Jr. Respect
And i feel his honor is solid. Not his fault.
Crazy thing is i think that loss made Roy the beast he was
Poor guy. Honorable. Lifelong curse.
The biggest Scandal in Olympic boxing History. No, the biggest Scandal Until Joshua-Cammarelle in 2012.
When gold medals are awarded for politics, not the performance of the athlete.
Si-hun does not deserve either gold,silver, and bronze. His Olympic journey was totally "home cooking".
You'd think that after such a blatant debacle like this boxing would have cleaned it up, but here we are 36 years later & it's still happening, tho this one was among the worst .
I remember watching this as a kid and it was such a robbery that NBC replayed the fight 2 more times in that Olympics to show Americans over n over how he was robbed. Remember in 88 nbc only showed the Olympics on one channel on mainstream TV and for them to show this fight while other games were being played and ignoring them is a huge thing.
The US team had already won more gold medals than any other country before the jones bout, so you knew something was up.
I thought of Dhalsim's ending in Street Fighter 2 when I heard about Park Si-Hun's life after the gold medal.
"That was your teacher...in a past life."
Corruption in judging is spread out equally between the seasons for the Olympics. Boxing for the summer games and Figure Skating for the winter games. No two sports in Olympic history have made more headlines about scandalous judging.
Park Si-Hun has nothing to restore!! HE IS HONORABLE!!!
At least he won't die from all the head trauma after fighting Parkinson's, ALS and dementia.
Ridiculous that both fighters can agree on the winner and yet still be denied a correct and fair decision
What a fantastic human being. Absolute respect to park,a real gentleman.
How? He didn't protest at the moment
He shouldn’t even been in the gold medal fight, he lost pretty much all his fights leading to the gold medal round
The quarterfinals especially. Nardiello literally had to be carried out of the building to keep from attacking the judges.
The judges destroyed this man
The sad thing is that even now, Si-hun would probably be much happier if the IOC reversed the decision and gave the right men the right medal.
He lost but fought as solid a fight as he probably could have being that outclassed.
Jones was getting battered with flurries of blows from the judges. The bout was lost before even stepping in the ring. Whoever placed bets on park for the V, racked up on some serious 💰
The judges dishonored themselves and brought embarrassment and shame to Park Si-hun. I also remember a women's taekwondo match that had a suspicious result at the Seoul Olympics. If I remember correctly it was an American girl against a Korean girl.
Jones’s says he harbors no resentment towards him and I can see why because he seems like a stand up guy who knew what really occurred that day and truly regretted it.
Jones asked him face to face if he won the fight and Park said no. Jones respected Park for telling the truth.
Imagine getting gold, but longing for silver..
Interesting to see it from his point of view. We've all heard of sour losers but very rare to have a sour winner.
Then Soviet bloc judges voted for Jones, while the "Free World" judges voted for the South Korean. Amazing display of judging by the free world back then.
Two guys that didn't want to be involved in this scandal in the first place.
Mr. Hun has had more than 30 years to make this right. He could've made it right at the podium at the 88' Olympics. All he had to do was remove the Gold Medal from around his neck and tell Jones to take off the Silver so they could swap them out. That's all he had to do. Like I said, he's had 30 years to call Jones back over to Korea or he himself could've made the trip to the USA and he could've then presented the Gold Medal to Jones face to face. If his life has suffered because of the Gold Medal that he didn't win in the ring, it was done at his own hand. He's had years to make it right.
Exactly.
He would have been in big trouble with the government if he did that.
Everyone says that Si-hun seems like a good guy and full of integrity. But he's not a good enough/full of integrity guy enough to make a TANGIBLE gesture and give him the gold. If it were me, KNOWING I had lost, I would have switched positions on the podium and handed the gold to Jones Jr. myself.
He should have just agreed to do an informal televised ceremony and press conference with Roy Jones where he traded his gold medal for Roy's silver, and publicly stated that Roy Jones was the winner, and that it doesn't matter what 3 corrupt judges believe, and to also thank the other two judges for getting the correct decision.
The IOC should give Roy a gold medal before it’s too late! Egregious robbery that took something away from both fighters.
Blaming Park for the decision is the same as blaming a judge on a guilty verdict
'Yo! Korea embarrassed itself in front of the entire world that day. No shame! Lol
Good luck to Mr. Park Si-Hun.. Don't let someone else's corruption eat at you.. Absolutely no shame is losing to Roy Jones Jr. At the time no one on the planet could beat him..