I'm not shocked - just a little bit surprised about the unison result. But then you've interviewed people in Paris - possibly the result would look a bit different with people from Rennes, Lille, Strasbourg, Lyon, Marseille, Toulouse, Bordeaux, Nantes, etc. Same problem I can see with the interviews which you've made in Berlin. Also I'm not sure how much they really understand and know about that matter. Brexit didn't drop out of a blue sky. And while many focus on objections to the EU of the more conservative side of the political spectrum in the UK objections on the left wing are often neglected or completely ignored. I would really like to see the UK rejoining the EU. But there are a couple of issues I'd prefer that the UK would resolve before that.
No. I am sure you will find a similar attitude in all major EU cities. Unless, of course, you happen to meet someone who is more knowledgeable of the ins and outs of EU-politics.
Thr English complained about de Gaulle not wanting them into the EEC but when they got in they moaned about it constantly. De Gaulle knew they wouldn't play ball in Europe
I think De Gaulle was Chauvinist in the way of any british politician. He was pro-european unionism but he also wanted France to have the biggest voice. Adenauer and other post-war West German politicians had way more influence in bringing the EU into a club of equals than Presidents like De Gaulle or admittedly, almost every British Prime minister short of Tony Blair maybe.
Looking back I'd say the UK got too many cherries to pick. That they had their own currency wasn't a problem, others do as well, also the GBP was a stabilizing factor for the Euro because same market, later it was rather the other way round. What I mean are rather these unprecedented rebates, no other (contributing) member enjoyed. The UK simply fell short on their obligations but still received all benefits. Then there was the constant EU bashing in British politics from all sides. The EU was always the perfect scapegoat for shortcomings of UK domestic politics. What was everybody expecting when you send a highly brainwashed population to a referendum?
@@wanderschlosser1857 The rebate should be considered in context of UK's 46 year membership and being one of the biggest net contributors for 45 of those years, the only exception being a small net benefit in 1975, even with the rebate. That included years when the UK was considered the sick man of Europe and even needed an IMF bailout so the rebate was not without merit. Spain has been a net recipient during most of it's membership and renegotiated it's contribution in order to remain a net recipient when it would have been a net contributor - but no one ever mentions that.
@@NonFlyiingDutchman Simple, neither Germany nor France nor Benelux nor Sweden nor Danmark nor Austria nor Italy or any other country that always or part of those decades contributed, got such rebate. You certainly know that Germany in general always paid more than the UK. What you might not know, quite a few countries like Sweden, Danmark or The Netherlands paid a considerably higher contribution (like double) per capita than the UK and even Germany. So, please, don't try to justify the rebate. It was mainly given because the UK demanded it and the EU accepted it, to get forward in other projects that the UK used as negotiation subjects.
@@wanderschlosser1857 The UK's economy was so bad it needed a bailout by the IMF, but was still a net contributor: when have any of those countries you mention been in that much need of help? As for Benelux: Belgium and Luxembourg were amongst the biggest net beneficiaries as recently as 2021. I guarantee you that Brexit would not have happened if the UK had been a net beneficiary like Belgium or Luxembourg - even the Brexiteers could have spun a story to convince voters to leave an organisation that is giving them someone else's money. And again, why don't you complain about Spain renegotiating it's contribution to remain a net beneficiary?
There's a difference between finding people in France who can speak English and finding people who can speak French in England. For me as an english person, in cultural terms, I'd be way more flattered if people ate the cuisine of my culture compared to if people learnt english or any other language, say if I were italian. Language is important but things like food and common sayings derived originally from another language are massively overlooked parts of cultural exchange.
Yes I know what you're saying but you never used the best example , I'm a Brit living in Cyprus and apart from English breakfast we don't exactly have a strong cuisine . As for language the English language has a large chunk of words which come from the Greek language yet I would guess that 95% of Brits are totally unaware of this . This is my gripe that we have been dumbed down so much we just can't keep up with Europe on a cultural level .
@@politicalx6151 But that's just because they are immigrants. Ask native English people with English roots whether they can speak a second foreign language.
Uk education has failed to make language learning interesting, forever. I am 60, live in the countryside and learning French now, and love it, I have realised that living in a 100% English bubble has cut off so much unknown culture, I see the world from a new perspective. Brexit was a huge huge mistake, right wing bullshit is destabilising the world, we are one.
Before UK contemplates rejoining EU, the causes of the “brexit” movement need to be addressed: Misinformation by the media and the fools paradise of brexit Manipulation by politicians influenced by lobby minority unelected lobby groups with Vested interests to avoid EU legislation environment, money laundering etc. (the beneficiaries of the London laundromat, privatised companies all have much to gain ) External influences that stand to gain politically from a weaker Europe e.g. USA, Russia. Why was the scope and released of of the “Russia Report” suppressed by the Conservative party ? Education of a brainwashed public about the history of the EU ( ECSC etc.) and the fact the it has prevented war between the the major powers in Europe for two generations. Governments to take responsibility for their failings and failures and not use EU as a scapegoat.
@@politicalx6151Now - after the Tories have screwed up things even more than expected. But isn't that the usual see-saw game of political mood in the UK ? How much of that is plain pragmatism and how much of it is commitment to the fundamental idea of the European Union ?
Even if they crawl over broken glass, the brits do not deserve to be reintegrated. Who wants 1980's Thatcher-era Soccer Hooligans, who trashed Europe, welcomed back? Out! Out! Stay Out!
@@politicalx6151 I don't think so. It doesn't matter if 4 million Slavish anchor babies turned 18 this year. Any attempt to rejoin the EU will have dire consequences for those pushing this agenda.
@@AlexGys9 we all got shafted by an idea pushed by Farage... and he's a right wing ideologues... every other politician got caught up in it... they let themselves be drawn in to his game.
If it is just for your economy, please don't come back, we are ok without the UK. If it is about friendship and doing greater things together than alone, I am sure the vast majority of French citizens will be happy to have the UK back. At least let Scotland a chance to chose to leave the UK for the EU, and maybe also Northern Ireland as part of Republic of Ireland or as an independent new European state (as they wish).
Concerning the wider issue of how the " French", if generalising is ever possible, view the British (or rather the English), the difference between the two countries, in my opinion, is that there is no outspoken and systematic hostility in France towards the UK to the degree found in the UK towards France. There is nothing comparable to the British tabloid press in France, in which France and the French are regularly derided and belittled, and it seems this attitude has a significant impact on the population, along the class lines of course. At best, for the Brits, the French are the "ennemies " one loves to hate, and France always provides an excellent scapegoat. On the UK (re) joining the EU, of course it will be 27 national parliaments accepting, which is not granted, and France may not be the most hostile. In fact I don't think Brits in general have any real desire to be in the EU beyond mercantilist concerns. "Bregret" is mostly tears about lost trade, in my view. I'll finish with one consideration : at age 17 or 18, at school, in my lycée, as part of my curriculum, I knew (roughly) how the European project originated, what the European institutions are, how they operate etc. I am not sure that the Brits of my generation (I am 60) had the same exposure.
As a German I'd like to add that at least the amount of mutual derision and scapegoating doesn't exist among most European countries - if at all. That doesn't mean that there aren't any stereotypes and prejudice it's just that they don't seem to get unpacked and thrown so easily at each other like they appear to be within reach immediately in the UK. Maybe the reason for that is just that everyone is thinking twice about insulating a neighbour who's living virtually next door in contrast to one living across some water. But that wouldn't explain the lopsided exchange of questionable "compliments" with the UK which appears to be more productive in that regard. To be fair countries on the continent take advantage of the aspect that border regions have become areas of growing exchange commercially but also culturally. However I think that there's been put a lot of effort and ambition into that development in order to realize the "Vision of a European Community". And both of us were quite the first generation to actually experience those efforts during our school days already.
"Bregret" certainly has grown by a significant amount due to the negative economic consequences it has contributed. But there's a number of people who truely feel derived of more than just materialistic rewards of being in the EU - particularly within the younger generations.
Britain voted 'LEAVE' in 2016 and for 6 years has aggressively stuck to that position. Non! Non! Non! Their decision was not in haste and they've had too much time to recant, but after 6 years 'DIVORCE' that's a 'Decree Nici!'
for me as a European its a qualified; yes with a "but only if;" - no more exceptions, no more opt-outs or special deals, a commitment into all of the EU and all its institutions; including the €uro and Schengen.
As a Europhile Brit who voted remain, I would never take that deal. I’d love to return to our old relationship with our European friends but not at the expense of so much of what makes us British
@@eelsemaj99 what if the deal was presented as; you ahve to sign on to commit to the €uro, but there are no time limit for when it has to be implemented, like sweden who has signed on to it, but not implemented it yet.. Only Denmark currently has a permanent opt-out from the €uro. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Union
@@gawkthimm6030 I doubt we could renegotiate that, but I could fathom joining the EU if we kept the pound, and would rejoin on the old terms without a second thought
@@eelsemaj99 how independent would the pound / Bank of England have to be? under such a negotiated deal for you to accept it? - Denmark has kept our currency but its "tied" to the Euro. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Exchange_Rate_Mechanism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark_and_the_euro
@@eelsemaj99so much though of what "makes us British" is simply trying to be different for the sake of it but with no substance, like pints of wine, inches and miles, driving on the left -- but this isn't culture or tradition. So much of farages shtick revolves around pints down the local as an exceptionslist thing -- it isn't, the EU citizens also like beer the last time.i looked...
My thoughts are, as we frequently say in France, "Paris n'est pas la France". And a couple of blokes all apparently belonging to the same age/social group are even less representative of my country. Wanna ask some french fisherman? Would be interesting certainly innit? Bottom line being that, even if you had something even remotely representative of the french people, it wouldn't matter. People dont have a real say in who joins the EU, our politicians on the other hand... Better prepare to lower your pants and be a bit butthurt over fishing rights. Countries dont have friends, only interests. Realistically speaking the UK has a few things that we (the EU) could want depending on the price, none that we need.😅
I’d be game for interviewing French fisherman. The point of the video is too see if the social media trolls were right, you’re going to be surprised at the reaction… Finally staying seperate is exactly what Putin wants…
@@politicalx6151 Well we aren't that separated when it comes to Putin since this is managed mostly by NATO. Air patroling on the Baltic sea is still done jointly by Germany and the UK. France has a quick reaction air force stationed in Baltic state too. I doubt fishermen are hard to interview when they come back to port and they probably don't have much love for the EU as well, although it's a necessary evil for them. I don't think I would be surprised, I expect lots of diversity of opinions. More than what was shown in the first place. I also happen to work with a lot of European diplomats (from the EU delegation and from EU states), can't tell they miss the UK much when it comes to the EU's policies development. Ultimately they are the ones that count because the eventual return of the UK in the EU will be decided by politicians of EU states, not by people, excepting the people of the UK of course. It's not so relevant realistically speaking whether EU citizens love UK or not.
Economically we are, economically we are weaker and slower to work together as a result of brexit, as well as creating a significant amount of mistrust and animosity, all of which appears to have been a long term aim of Putin. Well the British fishermen didn't and they now regret their vote to leave. If it's popular with people, its popular with politicians. It wasn't just about love, it was about whether they would want us back.
@politicalx6151 dude, can you interview french brits, like me, who have had the whole premise of their identity wiped out by brexit? Thanks for your work!
As far as I'm concerned, I can't wait to see the UK back. I'm a northern French guy and I have got a bottle of champagne in the fridge to celebrate the occasion, even if it's going to be long coming. my grandmother kept some bubbly hidden in her house during the last war, hoping one day to drink it after liberation. It came in August 1944 she did drink it with our liberators. They were British. Need i say more?
We would probably have been alright in the EU and backed the project, but as you know de Gaulle kept us out for a decade while he fixed the disastrous Common Agricultural Policy in favour of French farmers, maybe he felt embarrassed about the war but it is about time France gave up pretending its in charge of this Empire, its a German thing, Merkl was its de facto ruler for years, the Euro just a construct to keep the DeutschMark cheap for his exports ... for which I don't think they have actually ever thanked Greece have they?
The UK has always done its best to hinder the political construction of the EU to only focus on their own economy. The EU will be better without them. If they want back in they will definitely have to do their best to fit in.
What’s wrong with focusing on your own economy also the uk wasn’t the only eurosceptic country look at Italy, Poland and Hungary they are even bigger trouble makers than the uk supposedly was.
7-0 for UK to rejoin? Come on ! That i s a joke! French people are so happy that UK is not part of EU anymore. Farage is not missed in the EU institution.
@@undefinedfr-fr Because UK used it veto all the time to get advantages and block EU reforms. It was never about EU, it was always about UK preventing EU development. EU countries are glad now UK is out EU. EU first, now it is be great to get out Poland and Hungary, they are as annoying as UK.
@@adrien5834 I think the people who answered the question were implicitly thinking in terms of a good faith rejoin, not a rejoin-so-that-those-continental-bastards-regulation-eating-monkeys-would-be-forced-to-give-us-back-our-cake. My guess would be that even if no one will miss the whining special snowflake UK governed by crooks, we all know that Europe would be better off with an honestly guided UK and we'd be happy to see that back, but not under any conditions.
I'm French and nobody's talking about brexit unless they have ties with the UK. French people have almost no reason to care but I suppose that the UK is still viewed as a funny neighbor with even worst politician that we have and that if they want to rejoin for good reasons and stop whining for rebates because they are so specials they would be welcome again without any problem.
@@politicalx6151 30 people walking by on the place des Vosges and the place de la république is not exactly random. But unless you interview some « frexiters » I doubt anyone would want to oppose a sincere come-back of the UK.
Really interesting project and I hope EU politicians will also want the UK back. I think there are going to need to be some realistic expectations on both sides. For the UK population there will also need to be some honest discussions, explaining the EU and the pros and cons. Experts this time not far right talking heads... Sad to say, also dumbed down. A lot of people chanted "Leave means Leave", "sovereignty", "taking back control..." "Knowing what they voted for" whilst not having a clue about reality. Overcoming cult thinking and getting an acceptance they were promised the impossible and conned will not be easy for many.
yes, exactly, we were in the EU for 40 years and membership didn't even help our education system. For French people reading this, it was the impoverished North, where we used to make things but now have NO economy at all that voted to leave, not these rich Londoners who look at us like chimps in a clearing through the wrong end of their binoculars. Dans mon ptit ville aux Nord d'Angleterre, nos choix etait pour Brexit, parce-que London a tous et dans les 40 ans le EU n'a pas résolu le problème, didn't cause it, totally but didn't solve it. London takes EVERYTHING including the clever kids and gives nought back, not even a decent railway line. (see what I mean about bad education ... I'm only OK speaking French when I'm drunk ;))
@@MrVorpalsword EU agreements improved consumer, employment and environmental rights and also a lot of inward investment for the UK. Maybe it's a shame education was left to individual countries, we might have been better with EU educational standards. Might at least have understood the pros and cons of the EU but might have meant the population was taught critical thinking. We so need more critical thinking!
and yet you clap the EU like a circus SeaLion. Doncaster got NOTHING. The employment rights were fought for for generations by the Trades Unions, the EU sees workers movement as vital and it undercuts the very rights and wages that the unions won - cheap migrant labour(incidentally why socialists are against the little capitalist club). Britain was a net contributor, it, by definition means we didn't get anything monetarily. You don't need educating in addition and subtraction do you? And yes, I see higher standards in all sorts of fields when I travel in Europe, it was clear that something was going wrong in the UK, and that membership of the EU hadn't put it right in 40 years, that is why I, who strives to change things for the better voted out .... apart from hating EU racism etc. etc. btw I would advocate British kids spending MUCH more time abroad (like a school year) as I believe languages open the mind to be able to learn. I'm an internationalist btw. not a little European. @@tompearce3610
Britain has been extremely unpleasant towards the EU since the 2016 Referendum (how many ppl actually voted to yield a 'Majority' to LEAVE?) so after 6 years of hostility their uncontested position has been 100% clear! Labour has been pi** weak in Opposition, so totally irrelevant!
Why would the UK want to re-join an Organisation that has declined economically over 50% compared to the USA in 20 years ? That's why everyone in Europe is broke, the EU is a disaster
.. And UK is worse: OBR « Living standards are heading for the worst fall in at least seven decades since records began in the 1950s » London School of Economics « A living standards gap worth £8,300 had opened up between typical households in Britain and their average peers in Netherlands, France and Germany. » IMF says Brits are poorer than average EU citizen: 2023 GDP per capita *PPP* USD : Denmark 73,300 Netherlands 72,900 Austria 69,500 Germany 66,100 Sweden 65,800 Belgium 65,500 Finland 60,800 France 58,800 European Union *56,900* United Kingdom 56,400 « Homelessness among armed forces veterans in England rises by 14% » Food banks: in 2010 the Trussell Trust: 35. In 2021: 1,400 + 1,172 independent food banks. « Poverty levels in the UK are “simply not acceptable” and the government is violating international law, the UN’ poverty envoy has said ahead of a visit to the country this week. » (5 Nov 2023) « Hospitals ‘falling to bits’ as NHS in England faces record £12bn repair bill » « Tory government stalls on Raac concrete repairs: schools in England face years of chaos » « Backlog in NHS and courts will take 10 years to clear. Next government will inherit most challenging situation in public services since second world war » « England worst place in developed world to find housing, says OECD report. » « England heads for obesity disaster. Government has shelved policies that could have helped to change landscape weighted in favour of unhealthy food options » « Turkey and the U.K. are Europe’s most overweight countries, the WHO said Tuesday in a report declaring an “obesity epidemic » On 31 December, two key air quality regulations will drop off the statute book under the Retained EU Law Act... following Tory vote to ditch EU clean waters law, allowing raw sewage dumping in rivers. « Thames Water: 72 billion litres of sewage pumped into Thames in two years, the BBC has revealed. 9 nov. 2023 » (72 billion litres = 72 million tonnes) « UK’s traditional festive swims face sewage : any swimmer who becomes ill will not be able to claim compensation from water companies after Tories blocked an amendment. »
Napoléon dreamt of Brexit, De Gaulle tried to avoid BrexIN. See how clever they were. As a French who lived in the UK for years I am convinced that UK rejoining is no good option. The country is too divided on that question for the EU and the UK to reconsider the matter and loosing time every decade. On top of that Brexit itself left deep scars on the continental side.
@@politicalx6151 well polls were wrong in the first place if you well remember back in 2016. It is documented. And even if the polls are showing a majority to rejoin it is a slight one. And on top of that I do not see the brexiters at Westminster and inside the tabloid press letting « the biggest democratic exercise in modern British history » been questioned.
I would personally oppose (and even campaign against) the U.K. getting back any bit of the EU’s executive or legislative power but I reckon most French people wouldn’t care. Nobody would ask them anyway, so the matter comes down to what the French political and business elite would want. And there’s not much doubt what the outcome would be.
The UK back in the EU? Doesn’t seem likely in the short term - none of the mainstream political parties want it (labour wants to “make Brexit work” apparently). Might an independent Scotland back in the EU be a more probable prospect? In the unlikely event of the UK returning into the EU, the relationship would have to be different, with more respect for the EU and its institutions, and less British exceptionalism.
Remember it was 48% to 52% it’s madding that such a hard brexit was followed for such tight margins, if the eu offer some slight change to freedom of movement I think we would of remained as that was the issue I kept hearing over and over again. Plus the sad thing is even in the Eu is starting to acknowledge to be a bit of problem. But we should work together more to solve the immigration issue. Which is not as bad as people on the right like to make out but for many reason people seem to love turning it into the no1 issue.
You should visit Ireland, (not NI) and ask the same questions, you might/ will get far more incisive & interesting answers, as only Ireland, of all EU countries, has had such a long (& historically bitter) interaction with Britain. (even now, Irish Govt taking the UK to International court etc, having to explain the history of NI to their British counterparts, etc etc). UNIQUELY, and indeed more than the French, Germans, Danish Dutch, etc etc Irish people & from the Govt, down, understand the twisted-rot at the heart of the Brexit Tory-driven mindset. We've been dealing with it for centuries! Indeed it's most interesting and revealing, how so many in Britain/England, still don't 'get' how the country on their western flank is so different, vis-a-vis its understanding of the EU. Finally, btw, I very much doubt people here, (in Ireland) would be keen on welcoming Britain back! Several decades out I would suggest.
I could debate that, with Spain for example and Gibraltar. But would love to, need this videos to do better to justify another trip like this, as it's expensive and I fund this all through YT. Max and I are also thinking of doing a Sunday Roast tour of the UK and Ireland this year. Great idea for a video though.
🤔Mes penses? 🗣"Allez Vous En"! After 2016 Referendum, for 6 years the Brits conducted the most hostile, aggressive attacks on the EU, European Parliament etc. The EU pleaded with Britain to reconsider. Britain said NON! NON! NON! Au jour d'hui, Il fait froid, tres froid et dure! Dommage!!!
I'm a Franco/British national living in France. As with many UK/Gibraltar nationals, I was denied a vote on this matter which concerns us. The UK benefitted from so many opt-out while in the UK, now that it voted for the "final" opt-out I feel that such a rapid change of heart is childish. Wait for 20 years and grow up, after which Europeans will have time to devote on reversing a stupid decision.
@@politicalx6151 im pretty sure he now would like his english assets back in the EU to continue arguing against EU unity and "god forbid" an EU military
it would have been interesting to see a vox pop in London just after India had left the British Empire. "60% want to rejoin the EU" .... don't make me laugh (c'est ne pas vrais, c'est faux) - btw the EU are doing what they are best at, repeating their mistakes of the past, inviting the Ukraine in, (having help spark the Yugoslav civil war by recognising Slovenia I think?). The EU is an expansionist empire & we DON'T share the same racist ideals as the EU here, we are the only major European country that has never been a fascist dictatorship .... that's why they are together on their shared island, that is why on our island, we don't need to be.
Sometimes they are almost the same thing, that kind of monarchy is called an 'absolute monarchy', @@politicalx6151 dictators and absolute monarchs just rule and make all the rules up, they also try to kill their opponents, they have to. Let's think about Russia - Tsar Nicholas thought he was anointed and appointed by God, that he was super-human and could do what he liked, as you know massacres of hungry peasants and workers occurred, so the population rose against him and killed him, and his family (lest they decided they were anointed by God too), then Lenin came in and pretended the dictators were the proletariat, he died and Stalin steel-manned his way in, pretty much dropping the veil - he did for between 6 million and 9 million of his kinfolk before he died, he possibly wasn't even killed by anyone? Now Putin. Most countries who still have a monarch aren't 'absolute monarchies' they are what is called 'constitutional monarchies' where their King or Queen has little power and are held in check by an elected government, parliament enacting new laws and policies like for instance, going to war or changing the time pedestrians have to cross a road when it is controlled by traffic lights etc. Dictators do seem to be murderous monsters, Henry VIII was the last absolute monarch we had in the UK and the English revolution of 1649 ensured that would never happen again incidentally after the 'benevolent? dictatorship of O.Cromwell. It is why we are so stable as a government and have never lurched into dictatorship like for instance, France under Napoleon whose attempts at forming an 'EU' foundered in the snows of Russia as did the designs of the German dictator Hitler who sought to construct a similar prototype 'EU' .... those two countries found out that in order to dominate Europe, they had to try something less violent than conquest by arms (because that had proved impossible). Hitler and Napoleon were dictators .... Queen Elizabeth the Second was a monarch(constitutional) - that is the difference, @politicalx6151, I'm sure you know this, so what point were you trying to make?
I'd also point out a country where hereditary monarchies are emerging, North Korea ... where the dictators son and grandson seem to be becoming absolute monarchs, Kings who would murder their own family members to cement power. And the country which oddly looks like something similar may one day take place, the USA .... where powerful families are currently vying with each other for (hereditary?) dominance. The Kennedys who were murdered and died one by one which stopped them. (though they still seem to harbour hereditary claims to power), the Bushes ... two Presidents so far, the Clintons .... the clever one, Hillary seeking to succeed her husband and possibly Trump who employs his kids in senior roles .... even Obama's wife was touted as a candidate. I welcome your comparison of these families tussles with the 15th century squabbles and murders in England, the Wars of the Roses ......
The UK won’t be allowed back in (it’ll only take one veto) unless and until we adopt Proportional Representation for general elections. The UK’s current political pendulum will present far to great a risk of another minority forcing another exit.
After a very nasty 'divorce' (BREXITEERS terminology) and 6 years since arguing over the divorce settlement, Britain does not deserve a second chance! 🗣🎤🎶"Baby, it's cold outside"!
I am British and consider myself generally Europhile and proudly voted remain in the Referendum. Despite this, given what people have said in these interviews and in the comments, I do wonder if the Brexiteers have a point. While I consider myself in many senses European, I have never seen myself as a “Citizen of Europe” in the way many interviewees seem to be implying they do, nor do I warrant the vast majority of Brits. Socially, I feel as close to an Australian as I do to a French person, despite having been to France many times but never to Australia. I also don’t think I’d be willing to rejoin if it meant giving up some important things such as our currency, monarchy or half of our Parliament (although I doubt any EU official would demand the latter two explicitly). Nor do I think I’d be able to give up some of the little things that make us quirky, but EU doctrine expects nations to conform on such as the metric system, side of the road we drive on, plug sockets etc. I do see genuine advantages to things like the return of the doctrine of sovereignty of parliament and an independent national judiciary, but they can be compromised on as before. Perhaps this is just a Parisian Bubble being interviewed, but my vision of what Britain should look like in the EU seems to be different to theirs. To me, I love the idea of common standards, immigration and trade policy across the EU, but a common European identity will probably always evade me
To be quite blunt: you've completely mistaken the point of these people. There is no point in brexit. Nobody was implying you should be a part of a European greater nationality or asking you to abolish the monarchy and so on. This is all only in your own head. This is exactly the problem with brexit: you are talking about it amongst yourselves, but not with the other Europeans. You are talking about 'ghost images' which are not pleaded for anywhere in the EU. This is why you are now suffering the consequences of your own insular mentality. However, they are talking about common values, which help to create stability in the continent. You can not only have stability based on money, because, well, money can be transferred to let's say your beloved Australia. You need common ideas such as democracy, rule of law and so on. You cannot treat Europe just as a market. A market is based on a political agreement as well: you politically agree not to have tarrifs and so on, to have a common currency backed by all participating governments. You cannot separate out politics out of the market. This is the fundamental mistake the brits make: fighting agains ghost ideas that nobody is actually advocating for, and being afraid of political integration so necessary in order to have the market you so deeply desire.
You've totally missed the point of the European enterprise! Each member State retains its own sovereignty! It's about trade, freedom of movement etc. Britain never had to surrender its currency, sovereignty, unique identity etc! 'LEAVE' arose out of paranoia, insecurity and xenophobia!
@@noelryan6341 we had an opt out on currency. I doubt we’d get that again. for the sovereignty argument, well depends how you define it. In the UK, “sovereignty” is defined as who has the power to make laws. That is limited to Parliament and the Sovereign in Britain. EU membership let the EU parliament overrule domestic law and strike down Acts of Parliament. Not often and not on many things I grant, but judicial review didn’t exist in Britain before we entered the EU. Similar with the ECJ, which can overrule British courts. It is undoubtedly cleaner to just have Parliament in charge. But as I said, it’s not a dealbreaker for me
@@koenkeep I don’t just desire a European market though. I don’t want an economy linked to Greece and Germany and Croatia and Italy as we would if we were in the Euro, because it is a fact that those countries would want to pursue different fiscal, borrowing, taxation policies etc and inflation would be different in different parts of it. Getting the Euro opt out was one of the best things Blair did for this reason. “These people” refers not to the EU politicians and bureaucrats who we would be negotiating with, and whom I generally have little fault with, but some of the mindless commenters in this thread, who I have seen advocate for every thing I mentioned. Britain had a strong hand in creating democracy and the rule of law, of course we hold to them. But that doesn’t mean that all aspects of ever closer union appeal
i can help you calm down: you are out now and not anymore considered an EU citizen, not by your government and not by any other government in the world. And consideringe your attitude towards the EU i can only say im as glad as yourself that you are not an EU citizen anymore. Like most british you seem to be better suited to be a subject of your King.
The GBP was in fact a good thing to have in the EU when the Euro was introduced. It was and kinda still is one of the most important currencies in the world. So it was a stabilizing factor for EU's economy. However, in the last 10-15 years of UKs EU membership it was more and more the other way round, the Euro being the major currency in the EU supports all currencies part of the same market. I think, if the UK would be still part of the EU the Euro wouldn't be a bad decision. The Germans and French also managed to get over the "loss" of their beloved Marks and Francs.
Currency is totally irrelevant, it's just a symbolic act, even if there were a pound that would be pegged to the ECB, other countries like e.g. Poles still have the zloty.
@@politicalx6151 If negotiating "good terms" means opting out of the Euro and Schengen area it just proves that you are not committed at all. It doesn't matter how many Brits want to "rejoin". It is the EU's decision.
@@politicalx6151 That's BS. 85% of EU Slav anchor babies maybe, but I think you'll find pre-2003 British nationals almost 100% in favour of remaining independent.
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Were you shocked at the French response?
Couldn’t you find someone that was totally against the uk back in the eu? Not one lunatic?
This people were all so reasonable. 😀
@@jannetteberends8730 lol only non 😉
I'm not shocked - just a little bit surprised about the unison result. But then you've interviewed people in Paris - possibly the result would look a bit different with people from Rennes, Lille, Strasbourg, Lyon, Marseille, Toulouse, Bordeaux, Nantes, etc.
Same problem I can see with the interviews which you've made in Berlin.
Also I'm not sure how much they really understand and know about that matter. Brexit didn't drop out of a blue sky. And while many focus on objections to the EU of the more conservative side of the political spectrum in the UK objections on the left wing are often neglected or completely ignored.
I would really like to see the UK rejoining the EU. But there are a couple of issues I'd prefer that the UK would resolve before that.
No. I am sure you will find a similar attitude in all major EU cities. Unless, of course, you happen to meet someone who is more knowledgeable of the ins and outs of EU-politics.
Stop lying. The answers you want have been taken. Everyone knows this type of manipulated survey.
Scotland hasn't really seen France as anything other than dn ally historically
yes the bigotry against the English among politicians in Scotland and France is strong, its a shame.
Scotland is even more irrelevant after years of SNP rule
..but the phoney Auld Alliance didn't get them far.
Thr English complained about de Gaulle not wanting them into the EEC but when they got in they moaned about it constantly. De Gaulle knew they wouldn't play ball in Europe
I think De Gaulle was Chauvinist in the way of any british politician. He was pro-european unionism but he also wanted France to have the biggest voice. Adenauer and other post-war West German politicians had way more influence in bringing the EU into a club of equals than Presidents like De Gaulle or admittedly, almost every British Prime minister short of Tony Blair maybe.
Looking back I'd say the UK got too many cherries to pick. That they had their own currency wasn't a problem, others do as well, also the GBP was a stabilizing factor for the Euro because same market, later it was rather the other way round.
What I mean are rather these unprecedented rebates, no other (contributing) member enjoyed. The UK simply fell short on their obligations but still received all benefits. Then there was the constant EU bashing in British politics from all sides. The EU was always the perfect scapegoat for shortcomings of UK domestic politics. What was everybody expecting when you send a highly brainwashed population to a referendum?
@@wanderschlosser1857 The rebate should be considered in context of UK's 46 year membership and being one of the biggest net contributors for 45 of those years, the only exception being a small net benefit in 1975, even with the rebate. That included years when the UK was considered the sick man of Europe and even needed an IMF bailout so the rebate was not without merit. Spain has been a net recipient during most of it's membership and renegotiated it's contribution in order to remain a net recipient when it would have been a net contributor - but no one ever mentions that.
@@NonFlyiingDutchman Simple, neither Germany nor France nor Benelux nor Sweden nor Danmark nor Austria nor Italy or any other country that always or part of those decades contributed, got such rebate. You certainly know that Germany in general always paid more than the UK. What you might not know, quite a few countries like Sweden, Danmark or The Netherlands paid a considerably higher contribution (like double) per capita than the UK and even Germany. So, please, don't try to justify the rebate. It was mainly given because the UK demanded it and the EU accepted it, to get forward in other projects that the UK used as negotiation subjects.
@@wanderschlosser1857 The UK's economy was so bad it needed a bailout by the IMF, but was still a net contributor: when have any of those countries you mention been in that much need of help? As for Benelux: Belgium and Luxembourg were amongst the biggest net beneficiaries as recently as 2021. I guarantee you that Brexit would not have happened if the UK had been a net beneficiary like Belgium or Luxembourg - even the Brexiteers could have spun a story to convince voters to leave an organisation that is giving them someone else's money. And again, why don't you complain about Spain renegotiating it's contribution to remain a net beneficiary?
My husband is english ,but we moved to Germany 50 years ago. We are very glad to have done so,and our sons
as well.
What's also very telling is that if this was done in London about the French how many Londoners can speak French ?
I think we’d be surprised in London, or our other capitals, but not so sure outside of major cities
There's a difference between finding people in France who can speak English and finding people who can speak French in England. For me as an english person, in cultural terms, I'd be way more flattered if people ate the cuisine of my culture compared to if people learnt english or any other language, say if I were italian. Language is important but things like food and common sayings derived originally from another language are massively overlooked parts of cultural exchange.
Yes I know what you're saying but you never used the best example , I'm a Brit living in Cyprus and apart from English breakfast we don't exactly have a strong cuisine .
As for language the English language has a large chunk of words which come from the Greek language yet I would guess that 95% of Brits are totally unaware of this .
This is my gripe that we have been dumbed down so much we just can't keep up with Europe on a cultural level .
@@politicalx6151 But that's just because they are immigrants. Ask native English people with English roots whether they can speak a second foreign language.
Uk education has failed to make language learning interesting, forever. I am 60, live in the countryside and learning French now, and love it, I have realised that living in a 100% English bubble has cut off so much unknown culture, I see the world from a new perspective. Brexit was a huge huge mistake, right wing bullshit is destabilising the world, we are one.
Europe says NON! 😂
Europe = 27 EU countries and 19 Non-EU-countries
Oui! D'accord! 😉👍
So do the British. The above video is completely false.
Before UK contemplates rejoining EU, the causes of the “brexit” movement need to be addressed:
Misinformation by the media and the fools paradise of brexit
Manipulation by politicians influenced by lobby minority unelected lobby groups with
Vested interests to avoid EU legislation environment, money laundering etc. (the beneficiaries of the London laundromat, privatised companies all have much to gain )
External influences that stand to gain politically from a weaker Europe e.g. USA, Russia. Why was the scope and released of of the “Russia Report” suppressed by the Conservative party ?
Education of a brainwashed public about the history of the EU ( ECSC etc.) and the fact the it has prevented war between the the major powers in Europe for two generations.
Governments to take responsibility for their failings and failures and not use EU as a scapegoat.
Brexiteers response to this "of course they'd say that, they want our money!"
With that mindset, I can't see GB back for at least a generation.
Oh I can, Brexiteer numbers are shrinking daily
@@politicalx6151Now - after the Tories have screwed up things even more than expected.
But isn't that the usual see-saw game of political mood in the UK ? How much of that is plain pragmatism and how much of it is commitment to the fundamental idea of the European Union ?
@@michaelburggraf2822You can never tell without giving people a chance to prove it.
Even if they crawl over broken glass, the brits do not deserve to be reintegrated. Who wants 1980's Thatcher-era Soccer Hooligans, who trashed Europe, welcomed back? Out! Out! Stay Out!
@@politicalx6151 I don't think so. It doesn't matter if 4 million Slavish anchor babies turned 18 this year. Any attempt to rejoin the EU will have dire consequences for those pushing this agenda.
As a Brit I can confirm that Brexit was a huge mistake.. we allowed ourselves to be shafted by a right wing ideological idea.
Corbyn isn't "right wing" 😂
Brexit was pushed both parties.
I agree that you allowed yourselves to be shafted but I have my doubts it was by a "right wing ideological idea"
@@AlexGys9 we all got shafted by an idea pushed by Farage... and he's a right wing ideologues... every other politician got caught up in it... they let themselves be drawn in to his game.
That will be why all across Europe right wing parties are winning, the failure of the left
@@BatTaz19 Scotland rejected brexit.. across every single constituency
If it is just for your economy, please don't come back, we are ok without the UK. If it is about friendship and doing greater things together than alone, I am sure the vast majority of French citizens will be happy to have the UK back. At least let Scotland a chance to chose to leave the UK for the EU, and maybe also Northern Ireland as part of Republic of Ireland or as an independent new European state (as they wish).
Don't worry. The EU won't last long.
All my UK family voted remain, but we all lived in Brexit heartlands. First Irish reunification and then Scottish independence.
RIP Jacques Delors 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
Concerning the wider issue of how the " French", if generalising is ever possible, view the British (or rather the English), the difference between the two countries, in my opinion, is that there is no outspoken and systematic hostility in France towards the UK to the degree found in the UK towards France. There is nothing comparable to the British tabloid press in France, in which France and the French are regularly derided and belittled, and it seems this attitude has a significant impact on the population, along the class lines of course. At best, for the Brits, the French are the "ennemies " one loves to hate, and France always provides an excellent scapegoat.
On the UK (re) joining the EU, of course it will be 27 national parliaments accepting, which is not granted, and France may not be the most hostile. In fact I don't think Brits in general have any real desire to be in the EU beyond mercantilist concerns. "Bregret" is mostly tears about lost trade, in my view.
I'll finish with one consideration : at age 17 or 18, at school, in my lycée, as part of my curriculum, I knew (roughly) how the European project originated, what the European institutions are, how they operate etc. I am not sure that the Brits of my generation (I am 60) had the same exposure.
As a German I'd like to add that at least the amount of mutual derision and scapegoating doesn't exist among most European countries - if at all. That doesn't mean that there aren't any stereotypes and prejudice it's just that they don't seem to get unpacked and thrown so easily at each other like they appear to be within reach immediately in the UK.
Maybe the reason for that is just that everyone is thinking twice about insulating a neighbour who's living virtually next door in contrast to one living across some water. But that wouldn't explain the lopsided exchange of questionable "compliments" with the UK which appears to be more productive in that regard. To be fair countries on the continent take advantage of the aspect that border regions have become areas of growing exchange commercially but also culturally. However I think that there's been put a lot of effort and ambition into that development in order to realize the "Vision of a European Community". And both of us were quite the first generation to actually experience those efforts during our school days already.
"Bregret" certainly has grown by a significant amount due to the negative economic consequences it has contributed. But there's a number of people who truely feel derived of more than just materialistic rewards of being in the EU - particularly within the younger generations.
Britain voted 'LEAVE' in 2016 and for 6 years has aggressively stuck to that position. Non! Non! Non! Their decision was not in haste and they've had too much time to recant, but after 6 years 'DIVORCE' that's a 'Decree Nici!'
for me as a European its a qualified; yes with a "but only if;" - no more exceptions, no more opt-outs or special deals, a commitment into all of the EU and all its institutions; including the €uro and Schengen.
As a Europhile Brit who voted remain, I would never take that deal. I’d love to return to our old relationship with our European friends but not at the expense of so much of what makes us British
@@eelsemaj99 what if the deal was presented as; you ahve to sign on to commit to the €uro, but there are no time limit for when it has to be implemented, like sweden who has signed on to it, but not implemented it yet..
Only Denmark currently has a permanent opt-out from the €uro.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Union
@@gawkthimm6030 I doubt we could renegotiate that, but I could fathom joining the EU if we kept the pound, and would rejoin on the old terms without a second thought
@@eelsemaj99 how independent would the pound / Bank of England have to be? under such a negotiated deal for you to accept it? - Denmark has kept our currency but its "tied" to the Euro. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Exchange_Rate_Mechanism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark_and_the_euro
@@eelsemaj99so much though of what "makes us British" is simply trying to be different for the sake of it but with no substance, like pints of wine, inches and miles, driving on the left -- but this isn't culture or tradition. So much of farages shtick revolves around pints down the local as an exceptionslist thing -- it isn't, the EU citizens also like beer the last time.i looked...
My thoughts are, as we frequently say in France, "Paris n'est pas la France".
And a couple of blokes all apparently belonging to the same age/social group are even less representative of my country. Wanna ask some french fisherman? Would be interesting certainly innit?
Bottom line being that, even if you had something even remotely representative of the french people, it wouldn't matter.
People dont have a real say in who joins the EU, our politicians on the other hand...
Better prepare to lower your pants and be a bit butthurt over fishing rights.
Countries dont have friends, only interests.
Realistically speaking the UK has a few things that we (the EU) could want depending on the price, none that we need.😅
I’d be game for interviewing French fisherman.
The point of the video is too see if the social media trolls were right, you’re going to be surprised at the reaction…
Finally staying seperate is exactly what Putin wants…
@@politicalx6151 Well we aren't that separated when it comes to Putin since this is managed mostly by NATO. Air patroling on the Baltic sea is still done jointly by Germany and the UK. France has a quick reaction air force stationed in Baltic state too.
I doubt fishermen are hard to interview when they come back to port and they probably don't have much love for the EU as well, although it's a necessary evil for them.
I don't think I would be surprised, I expect lots of diversity of opinions. More than what was shown in the first place.
I also happen to work with a lot of European diplomats (from the EU delegation and from EU states), can't tell they miss the UK much when it comes to the EU's policies development.
Ultimately they are the ones that count because the eventual return of the UK in the EU will be decided by politicians of EU states, not by people, excepting the people of the UK of course.
It's not so relevant realistically speaking whether EU citizens love UK or not.
Economically we are, economically we are weaker and slower to work together as a result of brexit, as well as creating a significant amount of mistrust and animosity, all of which appears to have been a long term aim of Putin.
Well the British fishermen didn't and they now regret their vote to leave.
If it's popular with people, its popular with politicians.
It wasn't just about love, it was about whether they would want us back.
@politicalx6151 dude, can you interview french brits, like me, who have had the whole premise of their identity wiped out by brexit? Thanks for your work!
@@louisdaillencourt2454 if these videos do well I’d love to come back and interview Brits living in Europe
It’s alright the French can pay for the rest Europe.
Good luck
As far as I'm concerned, I can't wait to see the UK back. I'm a northern French guy and I have got a bottle of champagne in the fridge to celebrate the occasion, even if it's going to be long coming. my grandmother kept some bubbly hidden in her house during the last war, hoping one day to drink it after liberation. It came in August 1944 she did drink it with our liberators. They were British. Need i say more?
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it will never happed
We would probably have been alright in the EU and backed the project, but as you know de Gaulle kept us out for a decade while he fixed the disastrous Common Agricultural Policy in favour of French farmers, maybe he felt embarrassed about the war but it is about time France gave up pretending its in charge of this Empire, its a German thing, Merkl was its de facto ruler for years, the Euro just a construct to keep the DeutschMark cheap for his exports ... for which I don't think they have actually ever thanked Greece have they?
Allez Vous En! Britain is a highly disruptive influence. Britain needs the EU more than the EU needs Britain!
Luckily your Grandma was not in the French fleet stationned in Toulon and sunked by the British during WWII.
The UK has always done its best to hinder the political construction of the EU to only focus on their own economy.
The EU will be better without them.
If they want back in they will definitely have to do their best to fit in.
That's not going to happen, and you're deluded if you believe these stupid videos. The UK has no intention of rejoining the EU.
What’s wrong with focusing on your own economy also the uk wasn’t the only eurosceptic country look at Italy, Poland and Hungary they are even bigger trouble makers than the uk supposedly was.
7-0 for UK to rejoin? Come on ! That i s a joke! French people are so happy that UK is not part of EU anymore. Farage is not missed in the EU institution.
Prove it.
@@politicalx6151 Well, I am in Paris, just interview me ! And I have many friends, intervew them too. you are not gonna get any "yes".
And why are you happy that the UK is not part of the EU anymore exactly ?
@@undefinedfr-fr Because UK used it veto all the time to get advantages and block EU reforms. It was never about EU, it was always about UK preventing EU development. EU countries are glad now UK is out EU. EU first, now it is be great to get out Poland and Hungary, they are as annoying as UK.
@@adrien5834 I think the people who answered the question were implicitly thinking in terms of a good faith rejoin, not a rejoin-so-that-those-continental-bastards-regulation-eating-monkeys-would-be-forced-to-give-us-back-our-cake.
My guess would be that even if no one will miss the whining special snowflake UK governed by crooks, we all know that Europe would be better off with an honestly guided UK and we'd be happy to see that back, but not under any conditions.
I'm french. The general sentiment in the population is "FUCK YEAH GOOD RIDDANCE, AT LAST !". Your interview picks show you have an agenda.
Watch the other videos.
30 people selected at random, only 2 have said no.
Do your own and see for yourself…
Music to Putin’s ears
I'm French and nobody's talking about brexit unless they have ties with the UK. French people have almost no reason to care but I suppose that the UK is still viewed as a funny neighbor with even worst politician that we have and that if they want to rejoin for good reasons and stop whining for rebates because they are so specials they would be welcome again without any problem.
@@politicalx6151 30 people walking by on the place des Vosges and the place de la république is not exactly random. But unless you interview some « frexiters » I doubt anyone would want to oppose a sincere come-back of the UK.
Really interesting project and I hope EU politicians will also want the UK back. I think there are going to need to be some realistic expectations on both sides. For the UK population there will also need to be some honest discussions, explaining the EU and the pros and cons. Experts this time not far right talking heads... Sad to say, also dumbed down. A lot of people chanted "Leave means Leave", "sovereignty", "taking back control..." "Knowing what they voted for" whilst not having a clue about reality. Overcoming cult thinking and getting an acceptance they were promised the impossible and conned will not be easy for many.
Thank you
yes, exactly, we were in the EU for 40 years and membership didn't even help our education system. For French people reading this, it was the impoverished North, where we used to make things but now have NO economy at all that voted to leave, not these rich Londoners who look at us like chimps in a clearing through the wrong end of their binoculars.
Dans mon ptit ville aux Nord d'Angleterre, nos choix etait pour Brexit, parce-que London a tous et dans les 40 ans le EU n'a pas résolu le problème, didn't cause it, totally but didn't solve it. London takes EVERYTHING including the clever kids and gives nought back, not even a decent railway line.
(see what I mean about bad education ... I'm only OK speaking French when I'm drunk ;))
@@MrVorpalsword EU agreements improved consumer, employment and environmental rights and also a lot of inward investment for the UK. Maybe it's a shame education was left to individual countries, we might have been better with EU educational standards. Might at least have understood the pros and cons of the EU but might have meant the population was taught critical thinking. We so need more critical thinking!
and yet you clap the EU like a circus SeaLion. Doncaster got NOTHING. The employment rights were fought for for generations by the Trades Unions, the EU sees workers movement as vital and it undercuts the very rights and wages that the unions won - cheap migrant labour(incidentally why socialists are against the little capitalist club). Britain was a net contributor, it, by definition means we didn't get anything monetarily. You don't need educating in addition and subtraction do you? And yes, I see higher standards in all sorts of fields when I travel in Europe, it was clear that something was going wrong in the UK, and that membership of the EU hadn't put it right in 40 years, that is why I, who strives to change things for the better voted out .... apart from hating EU racism etc. etc. btw I would advocate British kids spending MUCH more time abroad (like a school year) as I believe languages open the mind to be able to learn. I'm an internationalist btw. not a little European.
@@tompearce3610
Britain has been extremely unpleasant towards the EU since the 2016 Referendum (how many ppl actually voted to yield a 'Majority' to LEAVE?) so after 6 years of hostility their uncontested position has been 100% clear! Labour has been pi** weak in Opposition, so totally irrelevant!
Ireland doesn't miss UK.
Why would the UK want to re-join an Organisation that has declined economically over 50% compared to the USA in 20 years ? That's why everyone in Europe is broke, the EU is a disaster
They have better living standards in Poland and Slovenia compared to the U.K.
Are you telling me the USA is weak because it’s a union?
.. And UK is worse:
OBR « Living standards are heading for the worst fall in at least seven decades since records began in the 1950s »
London School of Economics « A living standards gap worth £8,300 had opened up between typical households in Britain and their average peers in Netherlands, France and Germany. »
IMF says Brits are poorer than average EU citizen: 2023 GDP per capita *PPP* USD : Denmark 73,300 Netherlands 72,900 Austria 69,500 Germany 66,100 Sweden 65,800 Belgium 65,500 Finland 60,800 France 58,800 European Union *56,900* United Kingdom 56,400
« Homelessness among armed forces veterans in England rises by 14% »
Food banks: in 2010 the Trussell Trust: 35. In 2021: 1,400 + 1,172 independent food banks.
« Poverty levels in the UK are “simply not acceptable” and the government is violating international law, the UN’ poverty envoy has said ahead of a visit to the country this week. » (5 Nov 2023)
« Hospitals ‘falling to bits’ as NHS in England faces record £12bn repair bill »
« Tory government stalls on Raac concrete repairs: schools in England face years of chaos »
« Backlog in NHS and courts will take 10 years to clear. Next government will inherit most challenging situation in public services since second world war »
« England worst place in developed world to find housing, says OECD report. »
« England heads for obesity disaster. Government has shelved policies that could have helped to change landscape weighted in favour of unhealthy food options »
« Turkey and the U.K. are Europe’s most overweight countries, the WHO said Tuesday in a report declaring an “obesity epidemic »
On 31 December, two key air quality regulations will drop off the statute book under the Retained EU Law Act... following Tory vote to ditch EU clean waters law, allowing raw sewage dumping in rivers.
« Thames Water: 72 billion litres of sewage pumped into Thames in two years, the BBC has revealed. 9 nov. 2023 » (72 billion litres = 72 million tonnes)
« UK’s traditional festive swims face sewage : any swimmer who becomes ill will not be able to claim compensation from water companies after Tories blocked an amendment. »
Napoléon dreamt of Brexit, De Gaulle tried to avoid BrexIN. See how clever they were. As a French who lived in the UK for years I am convinced that UK rejoining is no good option. The country is too divided on that question for the EU and the UK to reconsider the matter and loosing time every decade. On top of that Brexit itself left deep scars on the continental side.
The polls are not reflecting that.
@@politicalx6151 well polls were wrong in the first place if you well remember back in 2016. It is documented. And even if the polls are showing a majority to rejoin it is a slight one. And on top of that I do not see the brexiters at Westminster and inside the tabloid press letting « the biggest democratic exercise in modern British history » been questioned.
dont worry, you now have pint wine bottles
😂
I would personally oppose (and even campaign against) the U.K. getting back any bit of the EU’s executive or legislative power but I reckon most French people wouldn’t care.
Nobody would ask them anyway, so the matter comes down to what the French political and business elite would want. And there’s not much doubt what the outcome would be.
60%? You are tripping. No way we go in with the same deal we had. No better off out. I voted remain but ship has sailed
The UK back in the EU? Doesn’t seem likely in the short term - none of the mainstream political parties want it (labour wants to “make Brexit work” apparently). Might an independent Scotland back in the EU be a more probable prospect?
In the unlikely event of the UK returning into the EU, the relationship would have to be different, with more respect for the EU and its institutions, and less British exceptionalism.
Brexit is Brexit, don't come back. UK was a real pain in the A when it was in the EU.
Putin is pleased with you
@@politicalx6151 Pleased with me? The Russians are connected to Boris Johnson and the Tories !!! Blame yourselves, not me!
Don't worry. We won't.
Remember it was 48% to 52% it’s madding that such a hard brexit was followed for such tight margins, if the eu offer some slight change to freedom of movement I think we would of remained as that was the issue I kept hearing over and over again. Plus the sad thing is even in the Eu is starting to acknowledge to be a bit of problem. But we should work together more to solve the immigration issue. Which is not as bad as people on the right like to make out but for many reason people seem to love turning it into the no1 issue.
You should visit Ireland, (not NI) and ask the same questions, you might/ will get far more incisive & interesting answers, as only Ireland, of all EU countries, has had such a long (& historically bitter) interaction with Britain. (even now, Irish Govt taking the UK to International court etc, having to explain the history of NI to their British counterparts, etc etc). UNIQUELY, and indeed more than the French, Germans, Danish Dutch, etc etc Irish people & from the Govt, down, understand the twisted-rot at the heart of the Brexit Tory-driven mindset. We've been dealing with it for centuries! Indeed it's most interesting and revealing, how so many in Britain/England, still don't 'get' how the country on their western flank is so different, vis-a-vis its understanding of the EU. Finally, btw, I very much doubt people here, (in Ireland) would be keen on welcoming Britain back! Several decades out I would suggest.
I could debate that, with Spain for example and Gibraltar. But would love to, need this videos to do better to justify another trip like this, as it's expensive and I fund this all through YT. Max and I are also thinking of doing a Sunday Roast tour of the UK and Ireland this year. Great idea for a video though.
What 60%? Absolute nonsense. Try to rejoin and see what happens!
Absolute Truth
you're probably going to get a more liberal sample in Paris than in rural France or Eastern Europe
Possibly
🤔Mes penses? 🗣"Allez Vous En"! After 2016 Referendum, for 6 years the Brits conducted the most hostile, aggressive attacks on the EU, European Parliament etc. The EU pleaded with Britain to reconsider. Britain said NON! NON! NON! Au jour d'hui, Il fait froid, tres froid et dure! Dommage!!!
Did all the Brits?
Question: 🤔How did/would you have voted? @@politicalx6151
@@politicalx6151 no , not all the brits, and if you where to make a video im pretty sure it would show the brits 10/10 pro-EU
I'm a Franco/British national living in France. As with many UK/Gibraltar nationals, I was denied a vote on this matter which concerns us. The UK benefitted from so many opt-out while in the UK, now that it voted for the "final" opt-out I feel that such a rapid change of heart is childish. Wait for 20 years and grow up, after which Europeans will have time to devote on reversing a stupid decision.
Exactly what Putin likes to hear.
@@politicalx6151 im pretty sure he now would like his english assets back in the EU to continue arguing against EU unity and "god forbid" an EU military
Stop lying. The answers you want have been taken. Everyone knows this type of manipulated survey.
😂 1/10 two video only one negative out of 22.
Tell you what make your own version and let’s see what you find out
it would have been interesting to see a vox pop in London just after India had left the British Empire. "60% want to rejoin the EU" .... don't make me laugh (c'est ne pas vrais, c'est faux) - btw the EU are doing what they are best at, repeating their mistakes of the past, inviting the Ukraine in, (having help spark the Yugoslav civil war by recognising Slovenia I think?).
The EU is an expansionist empire & we DON'T share the same racist ideals as the EU here, we are the only major European country that has never been a fascist dictatorship .... that's why they are together on their shared island, that is why on our island, we don't need to be.
What’s the difference between a monarchy and a dictatorship?
Sometimes they are almost the same thing, that kind of monarchy is called an 'absolute monarchy', @@politicalx6151 dictators and absolute monarchs just rule and make all the rules up, they also try to kill their opponents, they have to. Let's think about Russia - Tsar Nicholas thought he was anointed and appointed by God, that he was super-human and could do what he liked, as you know massacres of hungry peasants and workers occurred, so the population rose against him and killed him, and his family (lest they decided they were anointed by God too), then Lenin came in and pretended the dictators were the proletariat, he died and Stalin steel-manned his way in, pretty much dropping the veil - he did for between 6 million and 9 million of his kinfolk before he died, he possibly wasn't even killed by anyone? Now Putin.
Most countries who still have a monarch aren't 'absolute monarchies' they are what is called 'constitutional monarchies' where their King or Queen has little power and are held in check by an elected government, parliament enacting new laws and policies like for instance, going to war or changing the time pedestrians have to cross a road when it is controlled by traffic lights etc.
Dictators do seem to be murderous monsters, Henry VIII was the last absolute monarch we had in the UK and the English revolution of 1649 ensured that would never happen again incidentally after the 'benevolent? dictatorship of O.Cromwell. It is why we are so stable as a government and have never lurched into dictatorship like for instance, France under Napoleon whose attempts at forming an 'EU' foundered in the snows of Russia as did the designs of the German dictator Hitler who sought to construct a similar prototype 'EU' .... those two countries found out that in order to dominate Europe, they had to try something less violent than conquest by arms (because that had proved impossible). Hitler and Napoleon were dictators .... Queen Elizabeth the Second was a monarch(constitutional) - that is the difference, @politicalx6151, I'm sure you know this, so what point were you trying to make?
I'd also point out a country where hereditary monarchies are emerging, North Korea ... where the dictators son and grandson seem to be becoming absolute monarchs, Kings who would murder their own family members to cement power. And the country which oddly looks like something similar may one day take place, the USA .... where powerful families are currently vying with each other for (hereditary?) dominance. The Kennedys who were murdered and died one by one which stopped them. (though they still seem to harbour hereditary claims to power), the Bushes ... two Presidents so far, the Clintons .... the clever one, Hillary seeking to succeed her husband and possibly Trump who employs his kids in senior roles .... even Obama's wife was touted as a candidate. I welcome your comparison of these families tussles with the 15th century squabbles and murders in England, the Wars of the Roses ......
well let me know if you ever swing by Denmark. :)
On the potential list 🙂
The result is the same everywhere. He cherry-picks the answers that support his propaganda.
The British will have to get rid of the last vestiges of "empire" - the Royals, the House of Lords, etc. - before they can return.
says who? you? and you are? 500 million eu citizens?
@@koenkeep Obviously.
@@MediaFaust maybe it’s not just up to you
@@koenkeep Moron.
Who cares.😊
Political X, what is your Nationality please, let's see what we are dealing with?
Hard to get views on RUclips
If you a less racist - yes
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The UK won’t be allowed back in (it’ll only take one veto) unless and until we adopt Proportional Representation for general elections. The UK’s current political pendulum will present far to great a risk of another minority forcing another exit.
After a very nasty 'divorce' (BREXITEERS terminology) and 6 years since arguing over the divorce settlement, Britain does not deserve a second chance! 🗣🎤🎶"Baby, it's cold outside"!
@@noelryan6341 Don't worry. They won't be rejoining.
I am British and consider myself generally Europhile and proudly voted remain in the Referendum.
Despite this, given what people have said in these interviews and in the comments, I do wonder if the Brexiteers have a point. While I consider myself in many senses European, I have never seen myself as a “Citizen of Europe” in the way many interviewees seem to be implying they do, nor do I warrant the vast majority of Brits. Socially, I feel as close to an Australian as I do to a French person, despite having been to France many times but never to Australia.
I also don’t think I’d be willing to rejoin if it meant giving up some important things such as our currency, monarchy or half of our Parliament (although I doubt any EU official would demand the latter two explicitly). Nor do I think I’d be able to give up some of the little things that make us quirky, but EU doctrine expects nations to conform on such as the metric system, side of the road we drive on, plug sockets etc. I do see genuine advantages to things like the return of the doctrine of sovereignty of parliament and an independent national judiciary, but they can be compromised on as before.
Perhaps this is just a Parisian Bubble being interviewed, but my vision of what Britain should look like in the EU seems to be different to theirs.
To me, I love the idea of common standards, immigration and trade policy across the EU, but a common European identity will probably always evade me
To be quite blunt: you've completely mistaken the point of these people. There is no point in brexit. Nobody was implying you should be a part of a European greater nationality or asking you to abolish the monarchy and so on. This is all only in your own head. This is exactly the problem with brexit: you are talking about it amongst yourselves, but not with the other Europeans. You are talking about 'ghost images' which are not pleaded for anywhere in the EU. This is why you are now suffering the consequences of your own insular mentality.
However, they are talking about common values, which help to create stability in the continent. You can not only have stability based on money, because, well, money can be transferred to let's say your beloved Australia. You need common ideas such as democracy, rule of law and so on. You cannot treat Europe just as a market. A market is based on a political agreement as well: you politically agree not to have tarrifs and so on, to have a common currency backed by all participating governments. You cannot separate out politics out of the market. This is the fundamental mistake the brits make: fighting agains ghost ideas that nobody is actually advocating for, and being afraid of political integration so necessary in order to have the market you so deeply desire.
You've totally missed the point of the European enterprise! Each member State retains its own sovereignty! It's about trade, freedom of movement etc. Britain never had to surrender its currency, sovereignty, unique identity etc! 'LEAVE' arose out of paranoia, insecurity and xenophobia!
@@noelryan6341 we had an opt out on currency. I doubt we’d get that again. for the sovereignty argument, well depends how you define it. In the UK, “sovereignty” is defined as who has the power to make laws. That is limited to Parliament and the Sovereign in Britain. EU membership let the EU parliament overrule domestic law and strike down Acts of Parliament. Not often and not on many things I grant, but judicial review didn’t exist in Britain before we entered the EU. Similar with the ECJ, which can overrule British courts. It is undoubtedly cleaner to just have Parliament in charge. But as I said, it’s not a dealbreaker for me
@@koenkeep I don’t just desire a European market though. I don’t want an economy linked to Greece and Germany and Croatia and Italy as we would if we were in the Euro, because it is a fact that those countries would want to pursue different fiscal, borrowing, taxation policies etc and inflation would be different in different parts of it. Getting the Euro opt out was one of the best things Blair did for this reason.
“These people” refers not to the EU politicians and bureaucrats who we would be negotiating with, and whom I generally have little fault with, but some of the mindless commenters in this thread, who I have seen advocate for every thing I mentioned.
Britain had a strong hand in creating democracy and the rule of law, of course we hold to them. But that doesn’t mean that all aspects of ever closer union appeal
i can help you calm down: you are out now and not anymore considered an EU citizen, not by your government and not by any other government in the world.
And consideringe your attitude towards the EU i can only say im as glad as yourself that you are not an EU citizen anymore.
Like most british you seem to be better suited to be a subject of your King.
There is no way that British people would vote to rejoin if we had to adopt the Euro as our currency.
85% of under 35 want to rejoin, Im sure we can negotiate good terms.
The GBP was in fact a good thing to have in the EU when the Euro was introduced. It was and kinda still is one of the most important currencies in the world. So it was a stabilizing factor for EU's economy. However, in the last 10-15 years of UKs EU membership it was more and more the other way round, the Euro being the major currency in the EU supports all currencies part of the same market. I think, if the UK would be still part of the EU the Euro wouldn't be a bad decision. The Germans and French also managed to get over the "loss" of their beloved Marks and Francs.
Currency is totally irrelevant, it's just a symbolic act, even if there were a pound that would be pegged to the ECB, other countries like e.g. Poles still have the zloty.
@@politicalx6151 If negotiating "good terms" means opting out of the Euro and Schengen area it just proves that you are not committed at all. It doesn't matter how many Brits want to "rejoin". It is the EU's decision.
@@politicalx6151 That's BS. 85% of EU Slav anchor babies maybe, but I think you'll find pre-2003 British nationals almost 100% in favour of remaining independent.