Except the EU didn't loose gdp. It lost a memberstate, the EU gdp is simply adding up the gdp of its members. So a paper exercise. The individual memberstates will not notice anything from that fact. They only notice differences in trade between them and former member now 3rd country UK, and that balance is different for each individual country. @@aleph8888
Dear James, you are friendly and polite. "Other Europeans". In many mails I received Brexiteers behaved as if the UK was not a part of Europe. Unfortunately some Tories did the same. There were slogans like: "Let's go to Brussels and show the Europeans who has the upper hand", "We are more Americans than Europeans " (Peter Bone). The fact has been that UK culture from Shakespeare to Rock Music has given us so much.
@@godehardbrysch7905 I doubt any Brexiteers think the UK is not part of Europe. (Though whether Europe really exists is debateable, as it is not clearly delineated from Eurasia generally). Can you give us some sourced examples of slogans like, "Let's go to Brussels and show the Europeans who has the upper hand"? I googled that specifically and found nothing. This strikes me as part of the nonsense about the UK wanting to resurrect the British Empire, etc. The British are pretty pragmatic and generally know what is practicable and what is not. Heck, we gave up our empire almost without a fight. You can't go into any negotiations if you rhetorically downplay your prospects. Hyperbole is inevitable. It is the French who have identified the "Anglosphere". If this puts us in the mid-Atlantic culturally, they are probably right. No other European country is in a similar circumstance and it does mean the UK is somewhat semi-detached from Europe on a number of levels not replicated on the continent.
It isn't surprising that getting rid of a member who doesn't want to row in the same direction is a positive. The EU would also benefit if Hungary were to leave.
there is an arte tv channel here on youtube for both short clips and documentaries in french and german... just turn on the subtitles and select english... 👍
@@23merlino Absolutely, or learn French there are already 40% of English words which derive from French, this should make things a little easier (at least it helped me in my learning English).
They're engl-subs on the application (android, IOS) and certainly on your box..... and spanish, italian, etc.... I understand... you were far away from UE a long time before living !!! 😅😂😅
Their electorates are not that stupid. Maybe something to to with their popular media and press being more honest and independent, unlike England's predominantly right wing, pro Brexit press and media which is owned by scumbag tax exile right wing billionnaires.
and then england took back control and showed them again that the colonies have no say - dont forget you are in the english democracy where only the english vote matters
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland are a Democracy so said an English Man and the DUP TUV. It was a United Kingdom wide vote. 🇮🇪🇪🇺
Think of the benefits. Interesting Titanic exhibitions featuring artefacts recovered from the seabed. It made stars out of Kate Winslet and Leonardo Di Caprio. The Titanic sinking had benefits...
What a load of crap we only officially left the EU bureaucracy in 2020 and we have had the pandemic Afghanistan climate change war in Ukraine. Brexit is fantastic it is the EU that is in a mess look at the farmers.
@@snowyowel7961 For the umpteenth time, Snowy, if Brexit is so wonderful, why haven't you been able to answer my simple question, despite being repeatedly asked to do so.? Don't bother with digression or whataboutery, all that's needed is a simple answer to the simple question - either YES, there is such a benefit, and here it is, or NO, there isn't one. The question? Provide a tangible benefit of leaving making everyday life better NOW for ALL ordinary people. Over to you, yet again...
But this will be stopped once the import controls are in place, so ... any moment since they've only been delayed five times (yet), so they surely will happen soon! ;-)
We have a FTA with the EU so no great change in the trade, most of this business was the big companies who have to comply with thepaperwork to export and import from other parts of the world. A few smaller businesses decided to only trade within the UK. Very little change.
.....possibly not. The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508 The majority of economists believe that Brexit has harmed the UK's economy and reduced its real per capita income in the long term, and the referendum itself damaged the economy.It is likely to produce a large decline in immigration from countries in the European Economic Area (EEA) to the UK, and poses challenges for British higher education and academic research. Sorry, but your convoluted "clarifications" don't resist an impartial and objective scrutiny; sound rather like Russian trolls disinformation.
@@AlexGys9 Uhhh why would a French person want to visit Great Britain? for his warm welcome? For these crazy prices? To hear yourself called froggy by friendly English people? it's a lot of advantages.... Which personally I will decline to my great shame.
Then you think wrong. To the facts, rather than the prejudices - The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508 nuclear electricity is only 17% of the total energy spent by France. I know many people don't understand it and get wrong numbers (because they don't get the gap between "electrical power" - 75 % nuclear - and total energy consumption" - 17% nuclear) : just check on the french government data if you want. 17% nuclear : nearly useless to keep low prices when Putintler starts a war and threatens Europe
Exactly - what us EU27 based commenters have been stating since years: the EU is better off without the UK. Which why we 🇪🇺won't have you 🇬🇧 back for many a decade, even if you met the accession criteria (you dont. You meet barely 50% as of 2024). Greetings from the EU 🇪🇺
@@stevejones2310 Same here, semi-German semi-Briton dual national by birth. In 3 weeks' time, 4th anniversary of us leaving the UK for good. Go and live with them - immigrants welcome, even immigrants from the UK unless they are brexitards. 😊👋
I don’t think it is necessarily true to say that the remain side did not push the falsity of the £350 million on the side of the bus . I saw this debunk many times by both reminders and even on the news , However when you are fighting against permanent headlines in the express the mail and the Sun you struggle
Tbf the Remain campaign was badly managed. Of course it didn't help with the lies and half truths spouted by the Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph ad nauseam and their non UK resident owners. Also the British population didn't take it seriously. There was austerity imposed by Osborne and Cameron and both of them were Remainers, therefore people could "stick it to Cameron " by voting for Brexit. That'll teach him. 😒😮💨😪 The funniest ( in a dark humour way) was what I read about the commonest Google search term from the UK : What is the EU ? On the day AFTER the referendum. Stupid is as stupid does as Forrest Gump's mama used to say..
Thanks for this, Rob. This was incredibly informative. A pity that our own media, usually like rottweilers, are so frightened to tackle Brexit critically and honestly.
The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@helderalmeida3417 Is that a problem? If so, why, if the same message is appropriate in more than one place? What would be the point in paraphrasing the same message?
@@markaxworthy2508 Sorry my friend but in 2023 France has passed Great Britain again, but hey it's actually very similar. Let's say that as France is twice the size of England there is surely more land available and therefore less expensive to settle there. Bienvenue😉
For years, I have regularly watched the economic or political reports on ARTE in both French and German. And I must say that contrary to all the French-speaking and German-speaking channels and even the British channels, ARTE delivers serious information. I don't watch the BBC anymore.
Glad I grabbed one of the last spaces through the channel tunnel to get a titre de sejour covered by the withdrawal agreement. Time will tell if it was a smart move. But I for one am pretty confident I will have no regrets.😂
I have been living in France for a number of years, and since Brexit I have absolutely no intention in returning to the UK. I regularly view ARTE news and features as their impartiality is refreshing. I also saw this particular program in early February and how true it rang..! People over here are witnessing the situation within the Uk , and believe you me such notions of leaving the EU have all but vapourised. Remember the old prase 'united we stand but devided we fall..!
Great video. It's nice to see the view from the other side of the Channel. I always found political/current affairs round tables on TV more serious and less bombastic in Europe than in the UK or the US (🤦♂). It would be interesting to find out how the EU in general has been affected by Brexit, if at all. I know, from speaking with friends back home in Germany, that there are virtually no discussion rounds about the effect of Brexit on the EU on any channel. They, themselves, never think about it at all. These friends, for the most part, work for large companies, VW, Sparkasse Bank, and a couple of others, and they all say that while things got a little rough after the UK actually left, the effects were quite small and dissipated quite quickly, and were overtaken by concerns about Covid then the Ukraine war, then, then, then; basically the usual stuff, but Brexit wasn't one of them.
It has bee quite interesting for me. ARTE is a German/French TV programme. I'm German but I speak English and French. The arguments are all well known but there has been something new to me, the journalist said something like: The EU is not a prison so one can leave it but without costs (?). It seemed to me that many Brits thought one could leave without any disadvantages.
The EU is not a prison so one can leave it but WITH costs. Like a divorce you can leave but it will cost you. The journalist then said the error of Brexiters is that they think it would not.
@@dieterdodel835point is that the UK was free to decide at any point tonkeave the EU. Scotland however is at the mercy of the English who decide if Scotland is allowed to leave. The first one is a union, the second one a prison.
The referendum vote gave Brexiteers what they wanted and once achieved there was no way they were going to let go. The very right wing of the British government have shown how much power they had in government circles to persue their dogma. In some ways, Brexit has been a positive thing in that it is over and done with. Had the "remainers" achieved a majortíty in 2016, the propoganda for a Brexit would not disappear overnight and these powerful forces would keep barking until they got what they wanted. It is very positive that voices and demonstrations for rejoining are being made though the concept of opinion seems to be that no immediate change will happen. Personnaly, I percieve that the whole system of British politics has to undergo radical change before the conditions for rejoining become palatable to the existing EU member states.
British (rather, English) politics is just part of the problem. English mentality towards the EU is the biggest issue. Not just from politicians, but from the population. It all starts with education and developing analytical skills.
Don't just blame the politicians for Brexit. Voters weren't deceived, they wanted Britland for Brits. The country that controlled most of the world at one point didn't like being controlled by EU regulations. What a laugh for all of us!
Just found your channel, and I'm so glad I did! Love hearing European perspectives that are not massaged by Tory bias and right wing propaganda and xenophobia. Please find more of these. Where can we watch the whole clip?
Typical the Brexit guy acknowledges its been a disaster but then blamed those that voted to remain. Is this taken from the film 'Kellys Hero's' when the bridge blew up and Odd Ball the tank commander blamed his tank drivers 'Negative Waves'.
Singapore is where almost a third of the economy is owned by its own Sovereign Wealth Funds, GIC and Temasek and they provide government housing for the population. I am not sure that Conservatives have any idea how Singapore is run.
The taxi service in Singapore is terrible. ( At least when I was there in the 90s). If you try and flag them down in the street they drive by and ignore you. And most of the shops and restaurants closed at 7 pm. 🇸🇬 Singapore is a dump.
I think we in Ireland suffer more than most in the EU. I used to be super easy and convenient to order stuff from UK suppliers. This amounted to many billions of € of trade that has now disappeared and we order from Germany and France instead.
It's my Brexit benefit! Double benefit because I am an American Revolutionary and the 1776 war didn't punish the British nearly enough. Brexit changed all that. Cheers and trebles all around!
De Gaulle was right. Even though he knew what he owned to the British people he was convinced the UK place was outside of Europe because of its proximity with the US. Because of this superiority complex. That is why he imposed a referendum on the uk entry in the ECC but back then he was no longer president. And his successor supported the UK membership.
I think de Gaulle´s France already paid their due by holding off the German army at the perimeter of Dunkerque while the brits were fleeing in small boats. ( Oh the irony)
There are two separate issues here. Firstly, the EU did not, and could not, force the UK to change the colour of its passports. The EU recommend that member states adopt the mauve colour subsequently adopted by most of them. However, Croatia had blue passports before it joined the EU, and Croatian passports are STILL blue. Second, ALL current British passports are produced in Poland, by a Polish subsidiarity of a French company.... This is yet another fascinating interpretation of the phrase "Taking Back Control!". Obviously, nothing, but NOTHING, says"Taking Back Control!" like having your passports produced by a foreign company in a foreign country.....
If I were British I'd be very very afraid ! Especially since a lot more "ties" between the UK and the EU will be "cut" like services and more " obstacles" errected like passport controls ! And I see no chance for the UK to become a member any time soon. Not with a state debt of over 100 % !
You are obviously entitled to your opinions on Brexit and changes this will cause to UK's future relationship with the EU, but you need to be accurate with some of your facts. Although UK's debt as a percentage of its GDP stands currently at 101%, it's among the lowest of the G7 countries. France is 104%, USA 128%, Italy 147% and Japan around 200% only Germany now in recession and Canada is lower.
No need to worry about the cutting of ties to Europe: the UK is already a “faithful ally” of America in terms of foreign & defence policies (in the Tony Blair days, some British opponents to the 2d war in Irak would have said “a poodle"). My hunch is that Britain will have within ten years made its choice, which will amount to an “ever closer union”... with the USA. As a European, I deeply regret this; but the trend is unmistakable for those who watch from outside. __ .
@@christianfournier6862 I suspect this will change especially with a new government and if the republicans and trump get their way. The majority of people in Britain aren't aligned on a values basis with America. We are far more liberal and left wing on the whole
@@christianfournier6862 Now what would the USA gain by ever closer ties with the UK ? UK's role as a link between the EU and the USA - gone ! UK's standing in the world - dimished. UK's economic clout - dwindling. Both are in a military alliance already - so ? And I wonder when and if that UK-USA free trade will EVER happen ! Greetings from one of the neighbours just 20 miles off UK's coast, not some THOUSAND miles :)) !
A brexiteer was telling me that the EU puts a stop to creativity by implementing so many rules. I said to her you know the reasons for these laws and the reasons for the plight of many UK businesses? She didn’t want to listen. I said to her if you don’t like the facts then that’s on you.
Nice to hear that you are one of the Brits, that are into; European languages. Language skills give a greater-insight and a great deal of satisfaction!! 👍👍👍 However I have a problem, I can't shed the cultural inheritance, given to me by my French grandmother. Passion can be a problem; in a Brit environment. Brexit ist ein Loch im Kopf.
Having recently seen footage from 2009 of Cameron arguing for Brexit, I'm becoming persuaded that there never was an official Remain campaign and both sides were working for a No majority, with Cameron's artificially escalated unpopularity being used to trigger a reaction vote from those who wanted to punish him. I've always been suspicious because of the anti-EU content of his pre-referendum 'negotiations' and the fact that he resigned immediately the result came through. The latter allowing the hard-Brexiters a leadership vacuum in which they could hijack the result and come very close to railroading through a hard Brexit via falsely applied Royal Prerogative.
The brexit Paradox is that any govt capable of delivering brexit wouldn't. The brexit reality is that voters clever enough to decode brexit would reject it. Result - an inept/venal govt conned a majority of gullible/deluded electors
Sadly, the denial is still very strong among the Brixiteers. I suspect that those British people who hope to make a successful FOURTH application for EU membership need to wait until a substantial proportion of those Brixit fanatics have died off.... Meanwhile, us EU citizens will get on with improving our lives, raising living standards and quality of life across the continent and forming a more cohesive response to Putin and his warmongering.
I watched the original video and the cast was very friendly towards the British and their aims, dreams and hope in doing the Brexit. They were not laughing and said many times how sad the French that Britain left the EU. Contrary to what some might think, most of Europe suffered a big loss and like the UK very much. A sad Belgian whose heart is torn.
But if Brexit strengthened the EU, that must mean that a hypothetical UK's return to the EU would weaken the EU. So the take home message of this video is: EU, keep the doors closed for the UK! 😁
The UK can never rejoin with the advantages that they once had. I doubt that the EU would even reconsider a rejoin, particularly since the UK has never even fully implemented Brexit. Their ability to implement contractual obligations is in question.
Were no longer part of and no longer whinning and moaning thinking that we should have special treatment all the time in the EU.. We deserve all that happens to us now because this is what we stupidly voted for. ..!!
Have the UK farmers worked out that any limitation on imports of food from the EU will allow greater food from Australia, India and NZ trade deals - NOT increase the prices of home grown food stuff from the UK.
No, the British farmers have STILL NOT "...worked out that any limitation on imports of food from the EU will allow greater food from Australia, India and NZ trade deals - NOT increase the prices of home grown food stuff from the UK." But then the majority of British farmers voted for Brixit, innit? Not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier, are they? And food production in Britain is actually DECREASING, because of a lack of labour... Farmers in Northern Ireland, on the other hand, are doing pretty well....
If Brexit made the EU stronger then that IS a benefit. A collapsing EU would be FAR more serious to the world than a self-excluded, isolated and self-deluding England slowly becoming weaker and less relevent.
Brexit was a disaster for everyone in the EU. Mostly for the UK - but costs went all around the table. Even countries like Norway and Switzerland were hurt. At least the EU got it's act together after the fact. UK remains a mess for now. Biggest irony ever has to be the UK calling on the EU to include Ukraine to ensure that country's safety and economic future! At the end of the day solid, national marco-economic and social policies decide long term welfare outcomes for populations. Differences within the EU are thus large - even when only looking at the few years following Brexit. Being outside the EU involves an extra cost that Brits for now will have to work harder and longer to overcome - or live on less as now. Its not black magic but solid economic policy that is needed within and outside the EU.
Yeah, there are benefits to Brexit - "They just happen to be for the future of the EU." I voted against Brexit, it was one of the stupidest decisions the UK ever made. I've voted SNP ever since, because I doubt the English will ever come to their senses.
I cringe whenever Brexiteers talk about being the Singapore of Europe. There are many things to admire about Singapore's economic ascendance, but the price paid is hardly something that Britons would stomach. Singapore's workforce consists of an enormous number of Malaysian migrant workers, many of whom cross the Johor Strait daily, raising the GDP, but not the resident population, and are taxed on their income, regardless of their residency. Singapore encourages proportional ethnic ratios in each voting district via its housing policies, ensuring one party rule falling on ethnic lines. Singapore has punitive taxation on things like automobile ownership. It has been, and continues to be a successful, well-run state, operating a benevolent de-facto one-party rule, a condition which Singaporeans gladly accept and which has lifted them out of a post-independence economic crisis. Nevertheless, Singaporeans' civil liberties are more restrictive than what Britons are accustomed to. Can the United Kingdom deal with that?
An interesting discussion about the results of Brexit and the effects on the British economy. But since the UK cannot rejoin the EU, what are some solutions to the economic problems they are experiencing? Raising taxes on the wealthy, perhaps. Increase VAT, maybe. Tax incentives to big business to increase productivity. Link wage growth to productivity. Compulsory superannuation to reduce the future burden on Social Security. Compulsory work for benefits SCHEMES to encourage slackers back to the workforce. Modify proceeds of crime legislation for easy forfeiture of ill gotten gains.
MIchel Rocard (French prime minister in 1988) once said that Europeans will be obliged to eject Great Britain (Mrs Thatcher was the prime minister) , due to its perpetual desire to have the cake and eating it too. And the British people did it themselves. I think that the majority of British people wanted Great Britain outside of Europe but a majority of the other European people wanted it too.
It was the ultra Conservative rich and the delusional, ultra old aged whom remembered their good old days, who contributed to the present Conservative party that wanted brexit. Everyone else knows it was a bad idea.
What really flabbergasts me is the constant British arrogance. First was among brexiteers. And now among rejoiners. We're going to rejoin the EU, they say. The EU doesn't have a say in it. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but this won't happen any soon.
Make no mistake, pulling out of the biggest trade block in the world, that includes all your closest neighbours, where you have built up supply chains and business relationships over 30 years is a very bad idea. BUT it didn’t have to be this bad. The Tories and their sophomoric “libertarianism” means that they did as little as possible to facilitate the transition plus chose the most extreme brexit. It’s error upon error, lie upon lie. I just hope the voters make them pay for this debacle.
I'm based in South west France,been here almost 20 years.I watch a lot of France24,we are getting real facts about the UK and Brexit..Good luck with the exam !
It was an epic win for the EU! Getting rid of the endless whining, raising the median education level, and reducing he number of English drunks around Europe? There is literally no downside.
I work in a large international company. Because I am responsible for fulfilling orders for parts, machines, equipment and services, I contact suppliers in many EU and EEA countries. I effectively avoid cooperation with companies from the United Kingdom. I have no intention of studying British tax rules and want to save time and money. If the British want sovereignty and create problems - go your own way. Greetings from Poland.
How strange, I´m a highly qualified accountant, retired. Currently all EU countries have their own Corporation tax policies, this is not standarised within the EU and Corporation tax (tax on company profits) is not within the remit of the EU Commission, though they realy would like to take control of that. Income tax on peoples wages and other income is also not a EU remit. Each member state has their own allowances tax rates and tax bands. The remaining tax is VAT or sales tax. This tax does go to the EU as part of the EU budget to pay for their two parliaments excessive expenses and huge public waste. But again every member state has their own rates. The EU can and does set a minimum rate by different categories. In Portugal food made in Portugal is taxed at 5%, all food imported wether EU or not taxed at 21% Alcohol taxed at 13%. So why do you need to know British tax rules but not any tax rules within the EU. We do have a Free Trade agreement with the EU it sets zero tariffs and zero quota rules for all trade between the UK and the EU for goods that comply with the Rules of Origin.
To qualify for zero tariffs and zero quotas custom declaration forms have to be submitted concerning the origin of goods and goods have to be correctly classified. This takes time even if done correctly, as why wait for customs when a buyer in Spain can more quickly source from somewhere already in the EU. Thereby putting UK businesses at a disadvantage. For this reason many UK businesses have opened locations in the EU to sell directly to EU customers. One could see this a Brexit benefit, thousands of new jobs for EU citizens.
@@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt your clients are very lucky that you have retired. Portugal doesn´t have 5% nor 21% IVA, and the notion that " The remaining tax is VAT or sales tax. This tax does go to the EU as part of the EU budget to pay for their two parliaments excessive expenses and huge public waste." is completely false. Speaking of different tariffs also is a meaningless response to the OP, since the height of vat doesn´t matter for his story. As a "highly qualified accountant" you will probably be aware that neither corporation tax nor income tax plays any role when importing goods from abroad. A "highly qualified" person would also understand that the OP, as a non-native speaker, uses "studying British tax rules" in a broad sense, meaning including all the details and procedures surrounding imports from a 3rd country besides VAT. I´ve encountered quit a few of those "highly qualified" Brits in my life, somehow I get the impression we on the continent have a different definition of that word.
Thanks. Interestingly, 80% of Poles in the UK have remained since Brexit and almost all those who left did so in the first three years after 2016. Since 2020 the number has been pretty stable at around 1% of the population. They are very welcome. Poland is doing particularly well, so it is not surprising some have left. The situation with French and, to a lesser degree, German residents is similar.
Congrats, you beat me, I've "only" been living in France 23 years; But after the 2016 Brexit vote (which, like yourself as UK non-resident more than 15 years, I wasn't allowed to vote in), I applied for and was granted my French Nationality. Now I'm a proud citizen of the EU.
I've been living and working in Germany for over thirty years now, and also applied for and got the German Citizenship, whilst being able to hold my British one. But I'm still peeved about not being allowed to take part in the Referendum as a then British EU Citizen . 3 million of us denied to take part ?
@@mrscreamer379 In return you enjoy decent public services in France. What good are low taxes in the UK when you then have to shell out 1000s on medical treatments, or linger on an endless NHS waiting list?
@@mrscreamer379 Is tax everything? The happiest countries in the world Finland, Denmark, Iceland all have much higher taxes than the UK. Pay more and get better health, schools roads, water etc etc and a wholly better life? Or live in an unhappy and angry place jealous of someone else`s bank credit score? "The price of everything, the value of nothing" ED, The lowest tax countries in Europe are Armenia and Azerbaijan.
The problem with this discussion is its focus on purely mercantile and financial issues. They are very important, vital even but that's not entirely what the EU is about. An ever closer political union is about peace. It's about making a European war extremely unlikely if not impossible between member states. The Ukraine war is not covered by that obviously. It started with de Gaulle and Adenauer and the Coal and Steel Union but spread via the Treaty of Rome outwards. That aspect is something that UK governments cannot get their heads round. Churchill was in favour of a European peace project but didn't think it was suitable fir Britain because he was still a staunch imperialist.
You are right in the point the eu is not primarily about money, the economics is the weapon it uses to create an empire. The evil is the political agenda, certainly no one in the UK ever wanted any part of. The lies about peace are farcical, that they have the temerity to make the claims is a farce. Nukes made war in the old way to make a Napoleon or Hitler again as the continentals so love impossible, well suicidal for all. SO they developed the eu, a cabal of elites with no loyalty to their nations making the continent servile to them, by economic war. Suborning political classes in nations with 'a say' at a top table but losing all control, and 'bribing' with money the populaces with subsidies. We would have left on the first eu making treaty had we been let have the deciding vote. My parents accepted the eec only as a trading club. Zero political existence was even considered let alone accepted. Lest we forget, the eu caused the Ukraine war, by its usual suborning of a nation into it's orbit, and stealing it away from Russia's orbit where it always belonged. This is how the evil eu operates. Better out of it even if we become destitute, Liberty or death. Not, oh I will be a bit better off as a slave, ok then!
@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554 I must admit that the rest of the world is very pitiful when I read the grandeur of your arguments. Such a usual technique coming from one of those Brits who sees his problems necessarily caused by “the others”. My poor kid, victim, but never the origin of anything! By the way, the UK was part of the EU for 40 years (with the biggest benefits ever) and has been in NATO for over 70 years. But the war in Ukraine is the fault of "others"... pathetic stupidity and so typical of this British imperialist way of thinking of which you seem to be the worthy heir.
Britain had a large influence on the EU with that sweetheart deal they had. So now that deal, and influence is gone, the EU is stronger and more united. Also helps that EU states get front row seats to watch post brexit economic collapse.
@@dermeisterdesspiegels3518 The question is not whether the parasitic agitator Viktor Orbán wants to continue embezzling EU funds, but whether the EU will cut off Hungary from EU funds completely once it has withdrawn Hungary's voting rights.😇
@@TruthToPower Je vous souhaite bonne chance, Rob! Moi, je suis en train d’apprendre le français en Duolingo mais le niveau C1 est très loin pour moi. 😂
@@geraldwagner8739 Bravo, your sentence is perfectly spelt and almost grammaticaly correct wich is impressive cause of the difficulty of it. However it isn't a very natural form of expressing yourself in french, it is not sounding like a daily basis french for exemple the structure "je suis en train de" (which is the equivalent of be+ing tence) is actualy grammaticaly correct but it's more common to use "j'apprend" (I learn which is completly unusual for english native speaker). next you use "en" before Duolingo it's the only grammatical error you must use "sur"(the equivalent of on in english, en is the equivalent of in) but you can use "avec" (the french for with) it's equal. For the last part it's not it's uncomprensible but with adding the word "encore" between "est" and "très" will definitivly looking better and more native speaking. Well done for learning French, I know it's hard to learn French and don't be harsh on yourself for making those errors, on the right hand you have done no misgender error and your spealing is very good, Keep going you're doing great. Signed : an French native who can't restrain the national urge of correcting the french of strangers with a broken english.
When Brexit comes up with family or friends here in the EU, many people shake their heads and say how strange they think the decision was. We then usually move on to another topic without further discussion. Greetings from Belgium, EU.
The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
I've seen these discussions several times in Germany and Poland and Ukraine, by the way. Always the same, Brexit is a disaster, never even one new advantage
@@foxkillingtime Sovereignty is a feature of Brexit. It's not a benefit. A benefit has to be descried as something that gives its beneficiary something better than it had without it. If the benefit of sovereignty is being able to make your own laws you need to define what was wrong with EU law (over which we had control anyway) and how UK law is better.(I know you understand this, I'm just explaining to the 'some' what a benefit is)
@@simonjohn9525U.K. law is for the corrupt. Just take a look at the horizon scandal. Now the corrupt lot know they can get away with it, laughing all the way to bank 😂
@@simonjohn9525 Is Britain more sovereign? Because I'd argue it's not. Now it has to pretty much say yes to almost everything, if it wants to trade. And if it doesn't, other countries already have arrangements, they don't need the UK. Yes, the UK said no to Canada... for now, but Canada can live without the UK, the UK can't live without everyone else. Sovereignty is of 2 types: internal (the ability to regulate one's own affairs) and external (the ability to operate independently on the international stage). Sure, the UK can now do whatever internally, in theory, but if they want to interact with the rest of the world through trade, then they must make concessions. And they don't have the resources to just isolate themselves economically from the rest of the world. Apparently, they don't even have enough food to feed their population, so they need to import. Soon, they won't even have enough steel. The theoretical sovereignty they earned will be sacrificed for resources, for trade. In practice, they're in a much weaker negotiating position. Their external sovereignty took a massive beating through Brexit.
I lived in France as a young man studying at university. Ever since returning to the USA I found ways to keep in touch with French news especially since the advent of the internet and RUclips. Seeing the French perspective is a real eye opener. En plus, je vous souhaite bonne chance pour vos examens. Vive Truth to Power! 😊
(sorry if I make some mistakes, I am not a native English speaker) What kind of french news do you watch ? Arte is great, but in the last two decades many french medias were bought by a few rich men. There is the exemple of Bolloré, who have many TV and radio channels, and also written press, and push hard for a far right agenda. However I agree it's always good to get your infos from somewhere else if you can have it. The more sources, the better. I watch a lot of international news on English speaking medias, and I think my understanding of the world is better than what it used to be. Bonne chance à vous, que ce soit pour parfaire l'apprentissage du français, la pratique de votre accent (tips, don't overdo it, having an accent is having an identity, don't be ashamed of that), ainsi que pour tout le reste. Je pense par exemple aux élections américaines qui auront lieu cette année. Bref, bon courage, et bravo pour votre ouverture sur le monde.
Indeed Brexit is here everyday to remind EU citizens of reality vs dreams of sunny uplands and unicorns. We are much stronger together than alone - even though it requires compromise
Prior to UK referendum Marine Le Pen was blathering about Frexit. She's gone quiet on that score. Not even Victor Orban wants to leave the EU, and Hungary is the problem child.
Stronger together if everyone has the same goal and works for it. That wasn't the case with the UK when it was a member. Even though the EU now is smaller than before Brexit it is stronger. Numbers are not everything. You also have to look at who plays in your team.
"Perfidious Albion": refer to acts of diplomatic sleights, duplicity, treachery and hence infidelity (with respect to perceived promises made to or alliances formed with other nation states) by monarchs or governments of the UK (or England prior to 1707) in their pursuit of self-interest. ‘Perfidious’ signifies one who does not keep his faith or word (from the Latin word perfidia), while ‘Albion’ is an ancient name for GB.
A title well deserved over centuries and the british civil servants worked hard for decades to replace it with the "fair play gentlemen" lie - but the english just couldnt keep up with that mask , it would have slipped sooner or later even without Johnson because they just cant hide their true colors.
Funny to see rejoiners just dripping with the very same British exceptionalism that drove the Brexit vote. They're doing nothing to force the radical changes necessary to comply with the EU ATAD and somehow expect to just breeze back into the EU.
As getting out of the EU before the ATAD was introduced was one of the main aims of the current UK government there is nothing that can be done until that government is ousted. Roll on a general election!
That's absolutely true. We're going to rejoin the EU. Just like that. The EU doesn't have a say in it. Will the UK meet the economic criteria for rejoining ? Will the EU even WANT the UK back ? UK had incredibly favourable terms as a member that no other member had. Those terms will no longer apply, even if UK rejoins. I think that the UK should only be readmitted if a future referendum shows 75 per cent in favour of membership.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gwagreed. I would also ask for compensation : the EU has faced enormous costs due to brexit. You want back? You pay for what you caused. There's a price for treason
I have travelled a lot in France for work. Once upon a time people would give a thumbs up to Brexit, very few do now. They aren`t as invested in the dream of Brexit, so can change their minds more easily after seeing the real world results.
As a foreigner... yes, we can watch the whole thing more dispassionately and while there is a bit of personal stuff in it (the vilification of Europeans touched a nerve), at the end of the day, I can tune out Brexit. I don't have to see its consequences every day and it's something happening to other people 2000 km away from me. If I were British, I'd probably be apoplectic in rage against Brexit supporters.
It's not really that surprising, from an outside perspective, it's a lot easier to see things clearly, in the UK, too many Brits got too emotional on Brexit and it clouded their judgement. Also, we should remember that the UK has a very hostile media against the EU for decades that have been bashing the EU, clarity wasn't going to be the Brits strong point with that kind of messaging for so many decades.
@@paul1979uk2000 Politics is one thing and logic is another. How in a country which imports 40% of its food, 27% of which is more than a quarter from the EU, can we think that things will go well? How can we not suspect that food will be much more expensive? I can only understand people who have been taken advantage of by unscrupulous people, but frankly I had to think...
I now live in Spain. I spend time sourcing what I need from other EU countries if I cannot source from Spain. If I purchase clothes on line I have them sent to my Family in UK and then bring them back after I've visited them
@miakeogh6844 my point is that custom duty is charged on items purchased from the UK to Spain. Parcels go to an holding centre in Madrid until charges are paid often amounting to more than the item itself. So it's not worth purchasing items even on such sites like Amazon Etsy and ebay shops.
One thing I continually got blank stares in response to(if not, outright denial) was when I would argue with Brexshitters that by leaving the EU we wouldn't be free of EU rules, because the EU rules that apply to non-members would apply to us. The only difference is that outside, we would have no power to define those rules.
I used to be the Customer Care Manager for a global hardware company based in the USA. We designed are products to the strictest standards from around the globe because countries with lower requirements always accepted our higher standard products. Most aspects of our products were to EU standards or USA standards whichever was strictest. This let us make a product that could be sold everywhere with no restrictions. So yes British companies will have to do the same thing if they want to sell outside the UK. Brexit was like shooting yourself in the testicles with a shotgun.
Well, I saw a lot of debates like this one in Portuguese tv, Spanish tv, Italian tv, French tv, German tv, online channels and opinions, radio shows, podcasts, etc, etc, before, during and after brexit, and it was of no use. So to me, personally, nothing will change until people like the Brit that was sitting in this debate sweating, are removed from their ability to do anything more than stand in the sidelines and complain, the British speciality, and grown ups are in charge of Britain. A like from me Rob, you deserve it.
The Bloomberg estimate of economic loss is based on trying to simulate what would have happened if the UK had not left the EU. The doppleganger model used to make this calculation is disputed. The real impact is likely far less than this prediction, as outlined in this debate by academic economists. ruclips.net/video/wpiRmUdsBZM/видео.html&ab_channel=TheUKinaChangingEurope Not to mention the 100 Billion the UK would have had to raise as tax as a net contribution to the EU Covid fund (given the Netherlands are paying 40 Billion Euro net and Ireland 17 Billion Euro net with populations a third and a tenth of the UK respectively). Given that tax revenue is around a quarter of GDP it means that sum requires at least 400 Billion in additional GDP to generate. I think it's pretty clear that contributions to the EU are only going to increase, possibly quite significantly. www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/eu-long-term-budget-needs-reform-lawmakers-experts-say/ The economic certainty about remaining in the EU is more difficult to sustain.
@@catinthehat906 it is plainly obvious that despite a huge government campaign to hide, obscure or fudge news of the damages from Brexit, there have been many. My business just one small bit of damage in the crippling of the multi-billion British music industry, a field where independent British music was loved and respected but now mostly confined to these shores as European touring is really now only possible for the big names. Do you remember "Leave the EU and cut all the red tape" 😂🤣😂 - the mad thing is that the same people who fell for the Brexit lies are still swallowing bs from the same liars - talk about never learning, Thing is that there are millions of statistics and whoever you are you can pick and choose which ones you highlight and which you ignore according to your opinions and the story you want to tell.
Analysing the £350m figure probably wouldn't have got the Remain campaign anywhere. Brexit voters wouldn't have had the concentration to listen. They would have thought it was the Remainers who were lying, because they were using complex, rational arguments, instead of arguing from emotion and from the heart.
The power of a lie is that it takes a few words or 1 sentence. Debunking a lie might take a full page. The first one fits on the side of a bus, the second one doesn't.
Since 2010, a combination of Cameron's austerity programme, the slow poison of Brexit and the Conservatives complete fiscal incompetence/corruption, has wreaked untold havoc upon the UK, even if the political will exists, it will take decades to even begin to reverse the damage, and a lot of what we've lost has disappeared forever.
The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508Lol. Whst about Gross Domestic Income, the Labour share of GDi, productivity, and poverty? And mein herr, the UK was in the EU for most of that last half century. I suggest you look at the OECD and IMF Databases which allow a comparison over time. They are free to access without registration. Then you will be able to fully digest the facts.
@@markaxworthy2508 My brief post doesn't say everything is the result of Brexit, I point to the Conservatives toxic mix of policies and decisions: austerity/Brexit/fiscal incompetence/corruption. The food shortages are evident in every major supermarket, and have been for some time. Less choice, empty shelves, fruit and veg on the point of going off. Is this what we all expected Brexit to deliver? Lastly you speak of France investing in nuclear power for decades outside of EU structures, well they didn't just invest outside of Europe. You might be interested to know that the UK currently has five operational nuclear power plants, all owned by Électricité de France (EDF) which is wholly owned by the French state.
@@trevellyanblack4101 Austerity was inevitable whoever won the 2010 election. Alistair Darling's plans make that clear, as did Liam Byrne's "There is no money" note. At that point the Tories hadn't been in office for 13 years, so "fiscal incompetence" is clearly not a Conservative monopoly! The Brexit referendum was voted for by EVERY national political party and, as they were all majority pro-Remain, lost by all of them. What corruption? You need to be more specific. I have seen no food shortages apart from the short period last year when the Spanish tomato crop was weak. What can't you get? Perhaps I could send you a food parcel? Yes, it is interesting that state-owned and subsidized French utilities can buy UK utilities, but the UK can't buy French utilities. Not very "communautaire", was it?
Great content. It's good to see the view of other Europeans.
Yes, interesting to see it from a different perspective
The EU losing over 15% of its GDP with Brexit has been great for the EU. 😝
Except the EU didn't loose gdp.
It lost a memberstate, the EU gdp is simply adding up the gdp of its members. So a paper exercise.
The individual memberstates will not notice anything from that fact. They only notice differences in trade between them and former member now 3rd country UK, and that balance is different for each individual country. @@aleph8888
Dear James, you are friendly and polite. "Other Europeans". In many mails I received Brexiteers behaved as if the UK was not a part of Europe. Unfortunately some Tories did the same. There were slogans like: "Let's go to Brussels and show the Europeans who has the upper hand", "We are more Americans than Europeans " (Peter Bone). The fact has been that UK culture from Shakespeare to Rock Music has given us so much.
@@godehardbrysch7905 I doubt any Brexiteers think the UK is not part of Europe. (Though whether Europe really exists is debateable, as it is not clearly delineated from Eurasia generally).
Can you give us some sourced examples of slogans like, "Let's go to Brussels and show the Europeans who has the upper hand"? I googled that specifically and found nothing.
This strikes me as part of the nonsense about the UK wanting to resurrect the British Empire, etc. The British are pretty pragmatic and generally know what is practicable and what is not. Heck, we gave up our empire almost without a fight. You can't go into any negotiations if you rhetorically downplay your prospects. Hyperbole is inevitable.
It is the French who have identified the "Anglosphere". If this puts us in the mid-Atlantic culturally, they are probably right. No other European country is in a similar circumstance and it does mean the UK is somewhat semi-detached from Europe on a number of levels not replicated on the continent.
Brexit: cutting off your own leg then boasting you have won a 50% discount on shoes.
Excellent analogy.
Well, it's true strictly speaking. 😁😆😂😅😄😃😀😄
Priceless! 😁😆😂
And you had to buy a pair of crutches !
That is a great analogy!
It isn't surprising that getting rid of a member who doesn't want to row in the same direction is a positive. The EU would also benefit if Hungary were to leave.
Pointless is the kindest thing you can say about Brexit
I would say that if it didnt change anything, but Brexit did changed alot and not for the good...
Europe should shift all their financial operations from UK to Europe immediately..
I mean, the UK was the most neoliberal contry in the EU, they left for the wrong reasons.
Good to show a French analysis of Brexit!
Good description about Brexit: a slow poison..
lead poisoning...
Arte a superb channel. Shame nobody can watch it in GB, unless you speak German or French.
there is an arte tv channel here on youtube for both short clips and documentaries in french and german... just turn on the subtitles and select english... 👍
@@23merlino Absolutely, or learn French there are already 40% of English words which derive from French, this should make things a little easier (at least it helped me in my learning English).
on the internet there is ARTE. Just google it. And you can choose your language. Of course there is English
They're engl-subs on the application (android, IOS) and certainly on your box..... and spanish, italian, etc....
I understand... you were far away from UE a long time before living !!!
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Scotland,Northern Ireland and Gibraltar voted to remain in the European Union in 2016.🎉🎉🎉
Indeed. What kind of a “Union” is the UK? I prefer the European one!
Their electorates are not that stupid. Maybe something to to with their popular media and press being more honest and independent, unlike England's predominantly right wing, pro Brexit press and media which is owned by scumbag tax exile right wing billionnaires.
and then england took back control and showed them again that the colonies have no say - dont forget you are in the english democracy where only the english vote matters
And also London by 60% to 40%
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland are a Democracy so said an English Man and the DUP TUV.
It was a United Kingdom wide vote.
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We have to wait a bit longer before calling the sinking of the Titanic a disaster. (Jeremy Stubbs)
Think of the benefits. Interesting Titanic exhibitions featuring artefacts recovered from the seabed. It made stars out of Kate Winslet and Leonardo Di Caprio. The Titanic sinking had benefits...
Brexit has shown us what happens when British politicians are totally in charge. Chaos !
It was a tory policy, if we had PR it would never have happened
I wish we had PR in the US! The two-party system is deeply flawed, probably outdated.
What a load of crap we only officially left the EU bureaucracy in 2020 and we have had the pandemic Afghanistan climate change war in Ukraine.
Brexit is fantastic it is the EU that is in a mess look at the farmers.
@@snowyowel7961 For the umpteenth time, Snowy, if Brexit is so wonderful, why haven't you been able to answer my simple question, despite being repeatedly asked to do so.?
Don't bother with digression or whataboutery, all that's needed is a simple answer to the simple question - either YES, there is such a benefit, and here it is, or NO, there isn't one.
The question? Provide a tangible benefit of leaving making everyday life better NOW for ALL ordinary people.
Over to you, yet again...
Making the UK and the EU weaker is a big benefit to Russia.
"They need us more than we need them!!!" Still having a laugh about that every once in a while....
I am still waiting for the German car manufacturers to rise up and demand massive concessions to the UK. They need us more than we need them etc.
We hold all the cards. Yeah. Obviously they forgot to read the fineprint "Not for EU" on these cards.
That was the most supremely stupid statement amongst a host of stupid statements.
Big benefit, the EU has somewhere to send its out of date food.
and inferior food.
Not just the EU - with no checks the whole world can send its crap to the UK.
But this will be stopped once the import controls are in place, so ... any moment since they've only been delayed five times (yet), so they surely will happen soon! ;-)
@@williampatrickfagan7590 you think that started with Brexit ?
Brexit gives us our own standards, We do not have to follow EU rules. Let our food companies benefit from Brexit just as our water companies have,
Thank you Rob, a very good video.
When it comes to trade with the EU, Brexit Wrexit.
We have a FTA with the EU so no great change in the trade, most of this business was the big companies who have to comply with thepaperwork to export and import from other parts of the world. A few smaller businesses decided to only trade within the UK. Very little change.
Indeed. Absolute wrexit. The number of insolvencies in 2023 is the highest ever, even higher then during the 2008 financial crisis
.....possibly not. The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
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The majority of economists believe that Brexit has harmed the UK's economy and reduced its real per capita income in the long term, and the referendum itself damaged the economy.It is likely to produce a large decline in immigration from countries in the European Economic Area (EEA) to the UK, and poses challenges for British higher education and academic research. Sorry, but your convoluted "clarifications" don't resist an impartial and objective scrutiny; sound rather like Russian trolls disinformation.
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I think even listening to someone speaking French makes Brexiters frothing and foaming.
And that's what makes them blind !
Deaf and blind 🙄
@@AlexGys9 Uhhh why would a French person want to visit Great Britain?
for his warm welcome?
For these crazy prices?
To hear yourself called froggy by friendly English people?
it's a lot of advantages.... Which personally I will decline to my great shame.
@@olivierpuyou3621 You are correct, my friend. It was a poorly thought out comment and I will remove it.
Then you think wrong. To the facts, rather than the prejudices - The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508 nuclear electricity is only 17% of the total energy spent by France. I know many people don't understand it and get wrong numbers (because they don't get the gap between "electrical power" - 75 % nuclear - and total energy consumption" - 17% nuclear) : just check on the french government data if you want.
17% nuclear : nearly useless to keep low prices when Putintler starts a war and threatens Europe
Exactly - what us EU27 based commenters have been stating since years: the EU is better off without the UK.
Which why we 🇪🇺won't have you 🇬🇧 back for many a decade, even if you met the accession criteria (you dont. You meet barely 50% as of 2024).
Greetings from the EU 🇪🇺
😠 Foreign Office!
My girls are half German with German passports. Can't see them staying in the UK much longer
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat No. Forensic data analyst, employed by the US' largest and most important IT provider.
@@stevejones2310 Same here, semi-German semi-Briton dual national by birth.
In 3 weeks' time, 4th anniversary of us leaving the UK for good.
Go and live with them - immigrants welcome, even immigrants from the UK unless they are brexitards. 😊👋
And no rebate, no opt-outs no cherry picking plus both political parties must agree.
I don’t think it is necessarily true to say that the remain side did not push the falsity of the £350 million on the side of the bus .
I saw this debunk many times by both reminders and even on the news , However when you are fighting against permanent headlines in the express the mail and the Sun you struggle
Tbf the Remain campaign was badly managed. Of course it didn't help with the lies and half truths spouted by the Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph ad nauseam and their non UK resident owners. Also the British population didn't take it seriously. There was austerity imposed by Osborne and Cameron and both of them were Remainers, therefore people could "stick it to Cameron " by voting for Brexit.
That'll teach him. 😒😮💨😪
The funniest ( in a dark humour way) was what I read about the commonest Google search term from the UK : What is the EU ?
On the day AFTER the referendum.
Stupid is as stupid does as Forrest Gump's mama used to say..
Thanks for this, Rob. This was incredibly informative. A pity that our own media, usually like rottweilers, are so frightened to tackle Brexit critically and honestly.
It must have taken quite a bit of money and/or influence to buy them all off.
Thank Boris! Thank Farage! My country is safe within the European community !
The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508copy and paste 😂
@@helderalmeida3417 Is that a problem? If so, why, if the same message is appropriate in more than one place? What would be the point in paraphrasing the same message?
@@markaxworthy2508 Sorry my friend but in 2023 France has passed Great Britain again, but hey it's actually very similar.
Let's say that as France is twice the size of England there is surely more land available and therefore less expensive to settle there.
Bienvenue😉
For years, I have regularly watched the economic or political reports on ARTE in both French and German. And I must say that contrary to all the French-speaking and German-speaking channels and even the British channels, ARTE delivers serious information. I don't watch the BBC anymore.
Another word for sovereignty is B.S.
Glad I grabbed one of the last spaces through the channel tunnel to get a titre de sejour covered by the withdrawal agreement. Time will tell if it was a smart move. But I for one am pretty confident I will have no regrets.😂
I have been living in France for a number of years, and since Brexit I have absolutely no intention in returning to the UK. I regularly view ARTE news and features as their impartiality is refreshing. I also saw this particular program in early February and how true it rang..!
People over here are witnessing the situation within the Uk , and believe you me such notions of leaving the EU have all but vapourised. Remember the old prase 'united we stand but devided we fall..!
Great video. It's nice to see the view from the other side of the Channel. I always found political/current affairs round tables on TV more serious and less bombastic in Europe than in the UK or the US (🤦♂). It would be interesting to find out how the EU in general has been affected by Brexit, if at all. I know, from speaking with friends back home in Germany, that there are virtually no discussion rounds about the effect of Brexit on the EU on any channel. They, themselves, never think about it at all. These friends, for the most part, work for large companies, VW, Sparkasse Bank, and a couple of others, and they all say that while things got a little rough after the UK actually left, the effects were quite small and dissipated quite quickly, and were overtaken by concerns about Covid then the Ukraine war, then, then, then; basically the usual stuff, but Brexit wasn't one of them.
It has bee quite interesting for me. ARTE is a German/French TV programme. I'm German but I speak English and French.
The arguments are all well known but there has been something new to me, the journalist said something like: The EU is not a prison so one can leave it but without costs (?).
It seemed to me that many Brits thought one could leave without any disadvantages.
The EU is not a prison, unlike the UK, which is. Ask the Scots.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw .....lol, so they (the Scots) chose prison over freedom in the 2014 referendum.......William Wallace would be so proud.
The EU is not a prison so one can leave it but WITH costs. Like a divorce you can leave but it will cost you. The journalist then said the error of Brexiters is that they think it would not.
I think it was more that you can leave it but not without costs.
@@dieterdodel835point is that the UK was free to decide at any point tonkeave the EU.
Scotland however is at the mercy of the English who decide if Scotland is allowed to leave.
The first one is a union, the second one a prison.
The referendum vote gave Brexiteers what they wanted and once achieved there was no way they were going to let go. The very right wing of the British government have shown how much power they had in government circles to persue their dogma.
In some ways, Brexit has been a positive thing in that it is over and done with. Had the "remainers" achieved a majortíty in 2016, the propoganda for a Brexit would not disappear overnight and these powerful forces would keep barking until they got what they wanted.
It is very positive that voices and demonstrations for rejoining are being made though the concept of opinion seems to be that no immediate change will happen. Personnaly, I percieve that the whole system of British politics has to undergo radical change before the conditions for rejoining become palatable to the existing EU member states.
British (rather, English) politics is just part of the problem. English mentality towards the EU is the biggest issue. Not just from politicians, but from the population.
It all starts with education and developing analytical skills.
Danke!
Thank you, Harald!
Don't just blame the politicians for Brexit. Voters weren't deceived, they wanted Britland for Brits. The country that controlled most of the world at one point didn't like being controlled by EU regulations. What a laugh for all of us!
And they also didn’t like to be in the same club as the French and even more the Germans who many still regard as enemies!
"They don't like it up 'em."
You actually mean England, and screw the rest!
@@geraldwagner8739 Hi Gerald - what Brexit voters told you this my friend?
Hi dmr - so you're saying that as Britain had an Empire that it should be the EU? How does that work my friend?
Great reporting, it is very informative to have views from outside the UK about the reality of how bad Brexit was and is!!
Just found your channel, and I'm so glad I did! Love hearing European perspectives that are not massaged by Tory bias and right wing propaganda and xenophobia. Please find more of these. Where can we watch the whole clip?
Wow, the French even do British Conservatives better than Britain. Surely the “rivalry” between the two countries is now well and truly concluded
yeah because Uk is not a real rival anymore. Sad but true.
Typical the Brexit guy acknowledges its been a disaster but then blamed those that voted to remain. Is this taken from the film 'Kellys Hero's' when the bridge blew up and Odd Ball the tank commander blamed his tank drivers 'Negative Waves'.
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Singapore is where almost a third of the economy is owned by its own Sovereign Wealth Funds, GIC and Temasek and they provide government housing for the population. I am not sure that Conservatives have any idea how Singapore is run.
Well, human rights wise the UK is closing the gap with Singapore quite fast. Maybe the UK government thinks that's all it takes?
The taxi service in Singapore is terrible. ( At least when I was there in the 90s). If you try and flag them down in the street they drive by and ignore you.
And most of the shops and restaurants closed at 7 pm. 🇸🇬 Singapore is a dump.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw Singapore has changed since the Nineties. There's a lot wrong with Singapore but a 'dump' it is not.
@maartenaalsmeer
It all depends how you define the word "dump".
I think we in Ireland suffer more than most in the EU. I used to be super easy and convenient to order stuff from UK suppliers. This amounted to many billions of € of trade that has now disappeared and we order from Germany and France instead.
oh the irony
and the poolplug in Mordor is laughing all the way.
It's my Brexit benefit! Double benefit because I am an American Revolutionary and the 1776 war didn't punish the British nearly enough. Brexit changed all that. Cheers and trebles all around!
De Gaulle was right. Even though he knew what he owned to the British people he was convinced the UK place was outside of Europe because of its proximity with the US. Because of this superiority complex. That is why he imposed a referendum on the uk entry in the ECC but back then he was no longer president. And his successor supported the UK membership.
I think de Gaulle´s France already paid their due by holding off the German army at the perimeter of Dunkerque while the brits were fleeing in small boats. ( Oh the irony)
C1 level language is pretty impressive!
Congrats on your new Francophone channel Rob. Even the Tory sounded more rational in French. À samedi prochain
I'm not even British, but I still like your videos. Good work.
Brexit has made the passports blue.
Of envy?
@@ab-ym3bf I don't know what color is used. The company is in the EU.
There are two separate issues here.
Firstly, the EU did not, and could not, force the UK to change the colour of its passports.
The EU recommend that member states adopt the mauve colour subsequently adopted by most of them.
However, Croatia had blue passports before it joined the EU, and Croatian passports are STILL blue.
Second, ALL current British passports are produced in Poland, by a Polish subsidiarity of a French company....
This is yet another fascinating interpretation of the phrase "Taking Back Control!".
Obviously, nothing, but NOTHING, says"Taking Back Control!" like having your passports produced by a foreign company in a foreign country.....
@@gloin10 Importing passports just proves how good British trade deals are.
@@viper_fan
"Importing passports just proves how good British trade deals are"?
Yeah, right.....
If I were British I'd be very very afraid ! Especially since a lot more "ties" between the UK and the EU will be "cut" like services and more " obstacles" errected like passport controls !
And I see no chance for the UK to become a member any time soon. Not with a state debt of over 100 % !
You are obviously entitled to your opinions on Brexit and changes this will cause to UK's future relationship with the EU, but you need to be accurate with some of your facts. Although UK's debt as a percentage of its GDP stands currently at 101%, it's among the lowest of the G7 countries. France is 104%, USA 128%, Italy 147% and Japan around 200% only Germany now in recession and Canada is lower.
No need to worry about the cutting of ties to Europe: the UK is already a “faithful ally” of America in terms of foreign & defence policies (in the Tony Blair days, some British opponents to the 2d war in Irak would have said “a poodle"). My hunch is that Britain will have within ten years made its choice, which will amount to an “ever closer union”... with the USA.
As a European, I deeply regret this; but the trend is unmistakable for those who watch from outside. __ .
@@christianfournier6862 I suspect this will change especially with a new government and if the republicans and trump get their way. The majority of people in Britain aren't aligned on a values basis with America. We are far more liberal and left wing on the whole
And germany is lower because of their own rules forbid any new debt over a set limit.
@@christianfournier6862 Now what would the USA gain by ever closer ties with the UK ?
UK's role as a link between the EU and the USA - gone !
UK's standing in the world - dimished.
UK's economic clout - dwindling.
Both are in a military alliance already - so ? And I wonder when and if that UK-USA free trade will EVER happen !
Greetings from one of the neighbours just 20 miles off UK's coast, not some THOUSAND miles :)) !
A brexiteer was telling me that the EU puts a stop to creativity by implementing so many rules. I said to her you know the reasons for these laws and the reasons for the plight of many UK businesses?
She didn’t want to listen. I said to her if you don’t like the facts then that’s on you.
Vote scotland indipendence
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Thanks
Thanks for all your support, Andrew.
Nice to hear that you are one of the Brits, that are into; European languages. Language skills give a greater-insight and a great deal of satisfaction!! 👍👍👍
However I have a problem, I can't shed the cultural inheritance, given to me by my French grandmother. Passion can be a problem; in a Brit environment.
Brexit ist ein Loch im Kopf.
Brexit is the best thing that happened to EU!
Having recently seen footage from 2009 of Cameron arguing for Brexit, I'm becoming persuaded that there never was an official Remain campaign and both sides were working for a No majority, with Cameron's artificially escalated unpopularity being used to trigger a reaction vote from those who wanted to punish him.
I've always been suspicious because of the anti-EU content of his pre-referendum 'negotiations' and the fact that he resigned immediately the result came through. The latter allowing the hard-Brexiters a leadership vacuum in which they could hijack the result and come very close to railroading through a hard Brexit via falsely applied Royal Prerogative.
Austerity and Brexit the Silent Killers in our Midst.
The brexit Paradox is that any govt capable of delivering brexit wouldn't. The brexit reality is that voters clever enough to decode brexit would reject it. Result - an inept/venal govt conned a majority of gullible/deluded electors
Sadly, the denial is still very strong among the Brixiteers.
I suspect that those British people who hope to make a successful FOURTH application for EU membership need to wait until a substantial proportion of those Brixit fanatics have died off....
Meanwhile, us EU citizens will get on with improving our lives, raising living standards and quality of life across the continent and forming a more cohesive response to Putin and his warmongering.
Thanks for great vid
I watched the original video and the cast was very friendly towards the British and their aims, dreams and hope in doing the Brexit. They were not laughing and said many times how sad the French that Britain left the EU. Contrary to what some might think, most of Europe suffered a big loss and like the UK very much. A sad Belgian whose heart is torn.
BS. No one misses those tea drinking fekkits .
But if Brexit strengthened the EU, that must mean that a hypothetical UK's return to the EU would weaken the EU. So the take home message of this video is: EU, keep the doors closed for the UK! 😁
I would say - Keep the doors closed for England
The UK can never rejoin with the advantages that they once had. I doubt that the EU would even reconsider a rejoin, particularly since the UK has never even fully implemented Brexit. Their ability to implement contractual obligations is in question.
We may have dumped the EU, but at least we got a trade deal with Brunei (population, 445k).
And, would the EU let us back in? I dont think so?
How much has Boris profitted of the Brexit by Putin, directy or indirecty?
Were no longer part of and no longer whinning and moaning thinking that we should have special treatment all the time in the EU.. We deserve all that happens to us now because this is what we stupidly voted for.
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Why can't The English realise that the EU doesn't want anything to do with them!
Once bitten .......etc etc.........
Soaring food prices? Outside the USA? Many Americans think their grocery bills should be blamed on Biden for some reason.
Thanks
You're so kind, John, thank you.
Have the UK farmers worked out that any limitation on imports of food from the EU will allow greater food from Australia, India and NZ trade deals - NOT increase the prices of home grown food stuff from the UK.
No, the British farmers have STILL NOT "...worked out that any limitation on imports of food from the EU will allow greater food from Australia, India and NZ trade deals - NOT increase the prices of home grown food stuff from the UK."
But then the majority of British farmers voted for Brixit, innit?
Not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier, are they?
And food production in Britain is actually DECREASING, because of a lack of labour...
Farmers in Northern Ireland, on the other hand, are doing pretty well....
Go EU!!!!!
If Brexit made the EU stronger then that IS a benefit. A collapsing EU would be FAR more serious to the world than a self-excluded, isolated and self-deluding England slowly becoming weaker and less relevent.
Brexit was a disaster for everyone in the EU. Mostly for the UK - but costs went all around the table. Even countries like Norway and Switzerland were hurt. At least the EU got it's act together after the fact. UK remains a mess for now. Biggest irony ever has to be the UK calling on the EU to include Ukraine to ensure that country's safety and economic future! At the end of the day solid, national marco-economic and social policies decide long term welfare outcomes for populations. Differences within the EU are thus large - even when only looking at the few years following Brexit. Being outside the EU involves an extra cost that Brits for now will have to work harder and longer to overcome - or live on less as now. Its not black magic but solid economic policy that is needed within and outside the EU.
Great pronunciation of Faridge, the serial parliamentary failure and sabateur and Britain's answer to Homer Simpson
Yeah, there are benefits to Brexit - "They just happen to be for the future of the EU." I voted against Brexit, it was one of the stupidest decisions the UK ever made. I've voted SNP ever since, because I doubt the English will ever come to their senses.
I cringe whenever Brexiteers talk about being the Singapore of Europe. There are many things to admire about Singapore's economic ascendance, but the price paid is hardly something that Britons would stomach. Singapore's workforce consists of an enormous number of Malaysian migrant workers, many of whom cross the Johor Strait daily, raising the GDP, but not the resident population, and are taxed on their income, regardless of their residency. Singapore encourages proportional ethnic ratios in each voting district via its housing policies, ensuring one party rule falling on ethnic lines. Singapore has punitive taxation on things like automobile ownership. It has been, and continues to be a successful, well-run state, operating a benevolent de-facto one-party rule, a condition which Singaporeans gladly accept and which has lifted them out of a post-independence economic crisis. Nevertheless, Singaporeans' civil liberties are more restrictive than what Britons are accustomed to. Can the United Kingdom deal with that?
What Napoleon Bonaparte did dream, Isolate the UK, the Brexit did it.
They feel sorry for us. We're the poor man of Europe once again.
An interesting discussion about the results of Brexit and the effects on the British economy. But since the UK cannot rejoin the EU, what are some solutions to the economic problems they are experiencing? Raising taxes on the wealthy, perhaps. Increase VAT, maybe. Tax incentives to big business to increase productivity. Link wage growth to productivity. Compulsory superannuation to reduce the future burden on Social Security. Compulsory work for benefits SCHEMES to encourage slackers back to the workforce. Modify proceeds of crime legislation for easy forfeiture of ill gotten gains.
MIchel Rocard (French prime minister in 1988) once said that Europeans will be obliged to eject Great Britain (Mrs Thatcher was the prime minister) , due to its perpetual desire to have the cake and eating it too. And the British people did it themselves. I think that the majority of British people wanted Great Britain outside of Europe but a majority of the other European people wanted it too.
Brexit, what not to do.
This is a very novel way of stating the negative effects of the UK leaving the EU. Thank you for this different view.
It was the ultra Conservative rich and the delusional, ultra old aged whom remembered their good old days, who contributed to the present Conservative party that wanted brexit. Everyone else knows it was a bad idea.
What really flabbergasts me is the constant British arrogance. First was among brexiteers. And now among rejoiners. We're going to rejoin the EU, they say. The EU doesn't have a say in it. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but this won't happen any soon.
Make no mistake, pulling out of the biggest trade block in the world, that includes all your closest neighbours, where you have built up supply chains and business relationships over 30 years is a very bad idea. BUT it didn’t have to be this bad. The Tories and their sophomoric “libertarianism” means that they did as little as possible to facilitate the transition plus chose the most extreme brexit. It’s error upon error, lie upon lie. I just hope the voters make them pay for this debacle.
arte is a great channel
There already is a Singapore of Europe, the Netherlands.
I'm based in South west France,been here almost 20 years.I watch a lot of France24,we are getting real facts about the UK and Brexit..Good luck with the exam !
I watch France24 english every morning - my french is not good enough - yet. Real facts -- good program.
It was an epic win for the EU! Getting rid of the endless whining, raising the median education level, and reducing he number of English drunks around Europe? There is literally no downside.
I work in a large international company. Because I am responsible for fulfilling orders for parts, machines, equipment and services, I contact suppliers in many EU and EEA countries. I effectively avoid cooperation with companies from the United Kingdom. I have no intention of studying British tax rules and want to save time and money. If the British want sovereignty and create problems - go your own way. Greetings from Poland.
How strange, I´m a highly qualified accountant, retired. Currently all EU countries have their own Corporation tax policies, this is not standarised within the EU and Corporation tax (tax on company profits) is not within the remit of the EU Commission, though they realy would like to take control of that. Income tax on peoples wages and other income is also not a EU remit. Each member state has their own allowances tax rates and tax bands. The remaining tax is VAT or sales tax. This tax does go to the EU as part of the EU budget to pay for their two parliaments excessive expenses and huge public waste. But again every member state has their own rates. The EU can and does set a minimum rate by different categories. In Portugal food made in Portugal is taxed at 5%, all food imported wether EU or not taxed at 21% Alcohol taxed at 13%. So why do you need to know British tax rules but not any tax rules within the EU. We do have a Free Trade agreement with the EU it sets zero tariffs and zero quota rules for all trade between the UK and the EU for goods that comply with the Rules of Origin.
To qualify for zero tariffs and zero quotas custom declaration forms have to be submitted concerning the origin of goods and goods have to be correctly classified. This takes time even if done correctly, as why wait for customs when a buyer in Spain can more quickly source from somewhere already in the EU. Thereby putting UK businesses at a disadvantage. For this reason many UK businesses have opened locations in the EU to sell directly to EU customers. One could see this a Brexit benefit, thousands of new jobs for EU citizens.
@@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt your clients are very lucky that you have retired. Portugal doesn´t have 5% nor 21% IVA, and the notion that
" The remaining tax is VAT or sales tax. This tax does go to the EU as part of the EU budget to pay for their two parliaments excessive expenses and huge public waste."
is completely false. Speaking of different tariffs also is a meaningless response to the OP, since the height of vat doesn´t matter for his story.
As a "highly qualified accountant" you will probably be aware that neither corporation tax nor income tax plays any role when importing goods from abroad.
A "highly qualified" person would also understand that the OP, as a non-native speaker, uses "studying British tax rules" in a broad sense, meaning including all the details and procedures surrounding imports from a 3rd country besides VAT.
I´ve encountered quit a few of those "highly qualified" Brits in my life, somehow I get the impression we on the continent have a different definition of that word.
Thanks. Interestingly, 80% of Poles in the UK have remained since Brexit and almost all those who left did so in the first three years after 2016. Since 2020 the number has been pretty stable at around 1% of the population. They are very welcome. Poland is doing particularly well, so it is not surprising some have left. The situation with French and, to a lesser degree, German residents is similar.
@danielaong9436 The reason is irrelevant. Brexit or no Brexit, they are still here and welcome.
Arte is a brilliant channel..
It is.I watch it in German.
the best
I am so glad that I live in France for the past 40 years
Congrats, you beat me, I've "only" been living in France 23 years; But after the 2016 Brexit vote (which, like yourself as UK non-resident more than 15 years, I wasn't allowed to vote in), I applied for and was granted my French Nationality. Now I'm a proud citizen of the EU.
I can't imagine how much you have paid in tax. Enjoy your 'freedom'.
I've been living and working in Germany for over thirty years now, and also applied for and got the German Citizenship, whilst being able to hold my British one. But I'm still peeved about not being allowed to take part in the Referendum as a then British EU Citizen . 3 million of us denied to take part ?
@@mrscreamer379 In return you enjoy decent public services in France. What good are low taxes in the UK when you then have to shell out 1000s on medical treatments, or linger on an endless NHS waiting list?
@@mrscreamer379 Is tax everything? The happiest countries in the world Finland, Denmark, Iceland all have much higher taxes than the UK.
Pay more and get better health, schools roads, water etc etc and a wholly better life? Or live in an unhappy and angry place jealous of someone else`s bank credit score?
"The price of everything, the value of nothing"
ED, The lowest tax countries in Europe are Armenia and Azerbaijan.
The problem with this discussion is its focus on purely mercantile and financial issues. They are very important, vital even but that's not entirely what the EU is about. An ever closer political union is about peace. It's about making a European war extremely unlikely if not impossible between member states. The Ukraine war is not covered by that obviously. It started with de Gaulle and Adenauer and the Coal and Steel Union but spread via the Treaty of Rome outwards. That aspect is something that UK governments cannot get their heads round. Churchill was in favour of a European peace project but didn't think it was suitable fir Britain because he was still a staunch imperialist.
You are right in the point the eu is not primarily about money, the economics is the weapon it uses to create an empire.
The evil is the political agenda, certainly no one in the UK ever wanted any part of. The lies about peace are farcical, that they have the temerity to make the claims is a farce. Nukes made war in the old way to make a Napoleon or Hitler again as the continentals so love impossible, well suicidal for all. SO they developed the eu, a cabal of elites with no loyalty to their nations making the continent servile to them, by economic war. Suborning political classes in nations with 'a say' at a top table but losing all control, and 'bribing' with money the populaces with subsidies. We would have left on the first eu making treaty had we been let have the deciding vote. My parents accepted the eec only as a trading club. Zero political existence was even considered let alone accepted. Lest we forget, the eu caused the Ukraine war, by its usual suborning of a nation into it's orbit, and stealing it away from Russia's orbit where it always belonged. This is how the evil eu operates. Better out of it even if we become destitute, Liberty or death. Not, oh I will be a bit better off as a slave, ok then!
@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554Still got your head up your arse , I see
@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554"The evil EU "! From a brit, who raped and terrorised half the planet for centuries. Shame on you
@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554 I must admit that the rest of the world is very pitiful when I read the grandeur of your arguments. Such a usual technique coming from one of those Brits who sees his problems necessarily caused by “the others”. My poor kid, victim, but never the origin of anything!
By the way, the UK was part of the EU for 40 years (with the biggest benefits ever) and has been in NATO for over 70 years. But the war in Ukraine is the fault of "others"... pathetic stupidity and so typical of this British imperialist way of thinking of which you seem to be the worthy heir.
@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554 Who is "we"?
Britain had a large influence on the EU with that sweetheart deal they had. So now that deal, and influence is gone, the EU is stronger and more united. Also helps that EU states get front row seats to watch post brexit economic collapse.
Quite frankly, I’m happy England is out of the EU. Hopefully it stays that way.
@@a.r.stellmacher8709 If you're already happy about the UK leaving the EU, hopefully you won't be bursting from happiness when Hungary leaves the EU.😉
@@ettoreatalan8303eh, won't happen, Orban needs money despite his shortcomings
@@dermeisterdesspiegels3518 The question is not whether the parasitic agitator Viktor Orbán wants to continue embezzling EU funds, but whether the EU will cut off Hungary from EU funds completely once it has withdrawn Hungary's voting rights.😇
C1 is a very advanced level of speaking a foreign language. My congratulations, Rob. 👏
Not saying I'll pass, Gerald! Such a hard slog for someone who failed O level!
@@TruthToPower
Je vous souhaite bonne chance, Rob! Moi, je suis en train d’apprendre le français en Duolingo mais le niveau C1 est très loin pour moi. 😂
@@TruthToPower. Vivre la Corrèze libre 🤫
@@geraldwagner8739 Bravo, your sentence is perfectly spelt and almost grammaticaly correct wich is impressive cause of the difficulty of it. However it isn't a very natural form of expressing yourself in french, it is not sounding like a daily basis french for exemple the structure "je suis en train de" (which is the equivalent of be+ing tence) is actualy grammaticaly correct but it's more common to use "j'apprend" (I learn which is completly unusual for english native speaker). next you use "en" before Duolingo it's the only grammatical error you must use "sur"(the equivalent of on in english, en is the equivalent of in) but you can use "avec" (the french for with) it's equal. For the last part it's not it's uncomprensible but with adding the word "encore" between "est" and "très" will definitivly looking better and more native speaking.
Well done for learning French, I know it's hard to learn French and don't be harsh on yourself for making those errors, on the right hand you have done no misgender error and your spealing is very good, Keep going you're doing great.
Signed : an French native who can't restrain the national urge of correcting the french of strangers with a broken english.
Time for a French language version of the channel?
When Brexit comes up with family or friends here in the EU, many people shake their heads and say how strange they think the decision was. We then usually move on to another topic without further discussion. Greetings from Belgium, EU.
Many if not most in the UK feel exactly the same especially if their own family and friends voted for it
The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508UK is in recession made official today with GDP contraction....
@@mattyghost3409 Yup the UK dipped into recession in the last half of 2023. Germany and Japan are also in recession. Your point is?
Greetings from Poland EU😊
Best thing about Brexit is that the EU is becoming more united!
I've seen these discussions several times in Germany and Poland and Ukraine, by the way. Always the same, Brexit is a disaster, never even one new advantage
Sovereignty is an advantage for some.
How? It has strategically weakened the EU and NATO, exactly what Putin and other hostile nations want.
@@foxkillingtime Sovereignty is a feature of Brexit. It's not a benefit. A benefit has to be descried as something that gives its beneficiary something better than it had without it. If the benefit of sovereignty is being able to make your own laws you need to define what was wrong with EU law (over which we had control anyway) and how UK law is better.(I know you understand this, I'm just explaining to the 'some' what a benefit is)
@@simonjohn9525U.K. law is for the corrupt. Just take a look at the horizon scandal. Now the corrupt lot know they can get away with it, laughing all the way to bank 😂
@@simonjohn9525 Is Britain more sovereign? Because I'd argue it's not. Now it has to pretty much say yes to almost everything, if it wants to trade. And if it doesn't, other countries already have arrangements, they don't need the UK. Yes, the UK said no to Canada... for now, but Canada can live without the UK, the UK can't live without everyone else. Sovereignty is of 2 types: internal (the ability to regulate one's own affairs) and external (the ability to operate independently on the international stage). Sure, the UK can now do whatever internally, in theory, but if they want to interact with the rest of the world through trade, then they must make concessions. And they don't have the resources to just isolate themselves economically from the rest of the world. Apparently, they don't even have enough food to feed their population, so they need to import. Soon, they won't even have enough steel. The theoretical sovereignty they earned will be sacrificed for resources, for trade. In practice, they're in a much weaker negotiating position. Their external sovereignty took a massive beating through Brexit.
I lived in France as a young man studying at university. Ever since returning to the USA I found ways to keep in touch with French news especially since the advent of the internet and RUclips. Seeing the French perspective is a real eye opener.
En plus, je vous souhaite bonne chance pour vos examens. Vive Truth to Power! 😊
Merci, puntitgi. Comme tu peux écouter, même si je peux traduire assez bien, mon accent a besoin du travail!
@@TruthToPower C'est pas mal, mon accent de français est bien pire.☺☺
@@TruthToPowerOn fait ce qu'on peut. 😊
(sorry if I make some mistakes, I am not a native English speaker) What kind of french news do you watch ? Arte is great, but in the last two decades many french medias were bought by a few rich men. There is the exemple of Bolloré, who have many TV and radio channels, and also written press, and push hard for a far right agenda.
However I agree it's always good to get your infos from somewhere else if you can have it. The more sources, the better. I watch a lot of international news on English speaking medias, and I think my understanding of the world is better than what it used to be.
Bonne chance à vous, que ce soit pour parfaire l'apprentissage du français, la pratique de votre accent (tips, don't overdo it, having an accent is having an identity, don't be ashamed of that), ainsi que pour tout le reste. Je pense par exemple aux élections américaines qui auront lieu cette année.
Bref, bon courage, et bravo pour votre ouverture sur le monde.
@@TruthToPower
Why don’t you support Wales and Scotland independence and apply to join EU
Much faster and easier than UK rejoin 🎉
Indeed Brexit is here everyday to remind EU citizens of reality vs dreams of sunny uplands and unicorns.
We are much stronger together than alone - even though it requires compromise
Prior to UK referendum Marine Le Pen was blathering about Frexit. She's gone quiet on that score. Not even Victor Orban wants to leave the EU, and Hungary is the problem child.
Stronger together if everyone has the same goal and works for it. That wasn't the case with the UK when it was a member. Even though the EU now is smaller than before Brexit it is stronger. Numbers are not everything. You also have to look at who plays in your team.
How long will it take for the UK to come to terms with loss of Empire?
Centuries.
Make that England. Who are well on the way to a return to singularity.
Wow. What stupid comments. Not thought of empires since history lessons at school...
England still has an Empire. Gibraltar, the Falkland Islands, Northern Ireland, etc.
@@garryferrington811 That's not an empire - that's a poor joke.
"Perfidious Albion": refer to acts of diplomatic sleights, duplicity, treachery and hence infidelity (with respect to perceived promises made to or alliances formed with other nation states) by monarchs or governments of the UK (or England prior to 1707) in their pursuit of self-interest. ‘Perfidious’ signifies one who does not keep his faith or word (from the Latin word perfidia), while ‘Albion’ is an ancient name for GB.
A title well deserved over centuries and the british civil servants worked hard for decades to replace it with the "fair play gentlemen" lie - but the english just couldnt keep up with that mask , it would have slipped sooner or later even without Johnson because they just cant hide their true colors.
I have been calling England „perfidious Albion“ for years now. In the past I thought the English were friends. Never have been, never will be!
Funny to see rejoiners just dripping with the very same British exceptionalism that drove the Brexit vote.
They're doing nothing to force the radical changes necessary to comply with the EU ATAD and somehow expect to just breeze back into the EU.
As getting out of the EU before the ATAD was introduced was one of the main aims of the current UK government there is nothing that can be done until that government is ousted. Roll on a general election!
That's absolutely true. We're going to rejoin the EU. Just like that. The EU doesn't have a say in it. Will the UK meet the economic criteria for rejoining ? Will the EU even WANT the UK back ? UK had incredibly favourable terms as a member that no other member had. Those terms will no longer apply, even if UK rejoins. I think that the UK should only be readmitted if a future referendum shows 75 per cent in favour of membership.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gwagreed. I would also ask for compensation : the EU has faced enormous costs due to brexit. You want back? You pay for what you caused. There's a price for treason
That ain't happening. Not in my lifetime.
Both the French and the Germans look at Brexit with a lot more clarity. Surprise.
I have travelled a lot in France for work. Once upon a time people would give a thumbs up to Brexit, very few do now. They aren`t as invested in the dream of Brexit, so can change their minds more easily after seeing the real world results.
It's a lot easier to look at anything with a lot more clarity when you don't have propaganda media.
As a foreigner... yes, we can watch the whole thing more dispassionately and while there is a bit of personal stuff in it (the vilification of Europeans touched a nerve), at the end of the day, I can tune out Brexit. I don't have to see its consequences every day and it's something happening to other people 2000 km away from me. If I were British, I'd probably be apoplectic in rage against Brexit supporters.
It's not really that surprising, from an outside perspective, it's a lot easier to see things clearly, in the UK, too many Brits got too emotional on Brexit and it clouded their judgement.
Also, we should remember that the UK has a very hostile media against the EU for decades that have been bashing the EU, clarity wasn't going to be the Brits strong point with that kind of messaging for so many decades.
@@paul1979uk2000 Politics is one thing and logic is another.
How in a country which imports 40% of its food, 27% of which is more than a quarter from the EU, can we think that things will go well?
How can we not suspect that food will be much more expensive?
I can only understand people who have been taken advantage of by unscrupulous people, but frankly I had to think...
I live in Ireland and now have to pay duty on online shopping from UK. No more UK purchases from me unfortunately.
I now live in Spain. I spend time sourcing what I need from other EU countries if I cannot source from Spain. If I purchase clothes on line I have them sent to my Family in UK and then bring them back after I've visited them
Elaine ?
Wouldn't buy the time of day from Britain, it would be a lie.
@miakeogh6844 Yes Elaine...and your point?
@miakeogh6844 my point is that custom duty is charged on items purchased from the UK to Spain. Parcels go to an holding centre in Madrid until charges are paid often amounting to more than the item itself. So it's not worth purchasing items even on such sites like Amazon Etsy and ebay shops.
One thing I continually got blank stares in response to(if not, outright denial) was when I would argue with Brexshitters that by leaving the EU we wouldn't be free of EU rules, because the EU rules that apply to non-members would apply to us. The only difference is that outside, we would have no power to define those rules.
I used to be the Customer Care Manager for a global hardware company based in the USA. We designed are products to the strictest standards from around the globe because countries with lower requirements always accepted our higher standard products. Most aspects of our products were to EU standards or USA standards whichever was strictest. This let us make a product that could be sold everywhere with no restrictions. So yes British companies will have to do the same thing if they want to sell outside the UK. Brexit was like shooting yourself in the testicles with a shotgun.
So glad I left UK for France in 2015.
Good for you 😊
So am I, one less whiney, unpatriotic Remainer.
@@truthmatters5209 Brain dead troll
Well, I saw a lot of debates like this one in Portuguese tv, Spanish tv, Italian tv, French tv, German tv, online channels and opinions, radio shows, podcasts, etc, etc, before, during and after brexit, and it was of no use. So to me, personally, nothing will change until people like the Brit that was sitting in this debate sweating, are removed from their ability to do anything more than stand in the sidelines and complain, the British speciality, and grown ups are in charge of Britain. A like from me Rob, you deserve it.
The Bloomberg estimate of economic loss is based on trying to simulate what would have happened if the UK had not left the EU. The doppleganger model used to make this calculation is disputed. The real impact is likely far less than this prediction, as outlined in this debate by academic economists.
ruclips.net/video/wpiRmUdsBZM/видео.html&ab_channel=TheUKinaChangingEurope
Not to mention the 100 Billion the UK would have had to raise as tax as a net contribution to the EU Covid fund (given the Netherlands are paying 40 Billion Euro net and Ireland 17 Billion Euro net with populations a third and a tenth of the UK respectively). Given that tax revenue is around a quarter of GDP it means that sum requires at least 400 Billion in additional GDP to generate.
I think it's pretty clear that contributions to the EU are only going to increase, possibly quite significantly.
www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/eu-long-term-budget-needs-reform-lawmakers-experts-say/
The economic certainty about remaining in the EU is more difficult to sustain.
@@catinthehat906 it is plainly obvious that despite a huge government campaign to hide, obscure or fudge news of the damages from Brexit, there have been many. My business just one small bit of damage in the crippling of the multi-billion British music industry, a field where independent British music was loved and respected but now mostly confined to these shores as European touring is really now only possible for the big names. Do you remember "Leave the EU and cut all the red tape" 😂🤣😂 - the mad thing is that the same people who fell for the Brexit lies are still swallowing bs from the same liars - talk about never learning,
Thing is that there are millions of statistics and whoever you are you can pick and choose which ones you highlight and which you ignore according to your opinions and the story you want to tell.
Analysing the £350m figure probably wouldn't have got the Remain campaign anywhere. Brexit voters wouldn't have had the concentration to listen. They would have thought it was the Remainers who were lying, because they were using complex, rational arguments, instead of arguing from emotion and from the heart.
The power of a lie is that it takes a few words or 1 sentence.
Debunking a lie might take a full page.
The first one fits on the side of a bus, the second one doesn't.
Yes.. there really is no cure for stupid
@@ab-ym3bf
Exactly!
Since 2010, a combination of Cameron's austerity programme, the slow poison of Brexit and the Conservatives complete fiscal incompetence/corruption, has wreaked untold havoc upon the UK, even if the political will exists, it will take decades to even begin to reverse the damage, and a lot of what we've lost has disappeared forever.
The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508Lol. Whst about Gross Domestic Income, the Labour share of GDi, productivity, and poverty? And mein herr, the UK was in the EU for most of that last half century. I suggest you look at the OECD and IMF Databases which allow a comparison over time. They are free to access without registration. Then you will be able to fully digest the facts.
@@BigHenFor What about them? You don't say.
@@markaxworthy2508 My brief post doesn't say everything is the result of Brexit, I point to the Conservatives toxic mix of policies and decisions: austerity/Brexit/fiscal incompetence/corruption. The food shortages are evident in every major supermarket, and have been for some time. Less choice, empty shelves, fruit and veg on the point of going off. Is this what we all expected Brexit to deliver? Lastly you speak of France investing in nuclear power for decades outside of EU structures, well they didn't just invest outside of Europe. You might be interested to know that the UK currently has five operational nuclear power plants, all owned by Électricité de France (EDF) which is wholly owned by the French state.
@@trevellyanblack4101 Austerity was inevitable whoever won the 2010 election. Alistair Darling's plans make that clear, as did Liam Byrne's "There is no money" note. At that point the Tories hadn't been in office for 13 years, so "fiscal incompetence" is clearly not a Conservative monopoly! The Brexit referendum was voted for by EVERY national political party and, as they were all majority pro-Remain, lost by all of them. What corruption? You need to be more specific. I have seen no food shortages apart from the short period last year when the Spanish tomato crop was weak. What can't you get? Perhaps I could send you a food parcel?
Yes, it is interesting that state-owned and subsidized French utilities can buy UK utilities, but the UK can't buy French utilities. Not very "communautaire", was it?