India and US to make Javelin missile
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Most of our indigenous projects are getting shut down due to govt trying to please another country at huge cost.Seems like rulers are busy making money than develop India into a great power.
No, infact is contrary to what reality we are pushing indigenously built equipment on defence force even they want the alternative.
LoL ! did Rafale kill Tejas 😂 or did Apache killed Prachand project 😂
Pimps wants vote and r fooling public with some shit atmanirbhar slogan but has been looting like previous govt by giving screwdriver jobs to private companies from foreign OEMs and getting funds as commission.
Well you are not completely wrong about it. This is the effect of weak government in the sense of not having proper majority in lok sabha
@@Andres_12123India literally purchased 156 Prachand
India Army required man portable anti Satellite missile from Indian Firm, Foreign company ho to kuch v chalega.
Gazab hai bhai😂
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We should ensure that Modi Govt does NOT beat the drums for Atam Nirbhar Bharat and get such US or Israel equipment through backdoor!!! DRDO and Armed Forces must be called out to be transparent. If there is any political compulsion, we should know it clearly.
Justification kya dena hai bol denge china border pe jyda effective hai. Same double standards Indian products pe apply nhi honge waha inhe -20°C to 50°c hi chahiye. Ek anti tank missile testing me 7-8 sal lagate hai.
NOTE FOR MYSELF: DO NOT GET CARRY OUT OR TO MUCH OPTIMISTIC, WHY?
1. WE DEPENDS ON FOREIGN COMPONIES FOR ENGINES OF EVERY PROJECT IN OUR COUNTRY, IT INCLUDES HELICOPTERS,COMBAT AIRCRAFTS, SUBMARINES,DESTROYERS,CARRIERS,SHIPS...etc
So, They will delay every project we are working on by adding sanctions or different policies. It happened in past with LCA TEJAS and it will happan with other projects too.
2.Specifically USA, ALL EGGS ARE IN ONE BASKET,
we depend on USA for almost 1000+ engines for upcoming projects.
f404 engine(tejas mk1a=220 airframes, required engines 330+ 2airframes:3engines ratio for single engine aircrafts)
f414 engine(MK2+AMCA+TEDBF, required engines, 1airframes:3engines ratio for twin engines)
Do I really expect that USA will give INDIA engines that easily, USA can't stop INDIA but defenetly will delay these projects.
3.we got our probles even everything is going well HAL,GOVT.,DEFENCE MINISTRY, BUT what about politics
*politics in HAL,DRDO, foreign lobbies,
*Elections after every 5 years affects INDIA'S defence projects gets delayed every time for almost 1/1.5 years for each 5year term.
*we do not have specific set of rules for defence indtustry, which will help Inidan defence production entities.
*MOST IMPORTANT FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND EVERY MILITARY PROJECT REQUIRES ATLEAST 15 TO 20 YEARS FOR FULLY OPERATION IN SERVEICE,
STARING FROM EXPECTATION FROM PROJECT TO DELIVERY IN TO SERVEICELINE.
At first hermes in disguise of dristi to kill tapas then Stryker to kill whap and now javelin to kill the mpatgm,
No, all will be like subs to these projects because MPATGM can't be provided ro all soldiers so Javelin and MPATGM will be in Indian army and WhAP will be there because India buying Stryker AD variant.
Indian army only interested in imported systems for %
Don't worry mpatgm have nice future it will be replace konkurs and millan missile the army was interested in javelin because it was shoulder firing missile system meanwhile to launch mpatgm we needs tripod.
Bruh , drishti in very less number !! Will indian army have requirement of only 2 male uav ??
Only 4 Drishti were bought under emergency procurement and now 10 Tapas are being bought. All the others are simply speculation.
Public use to abuse DRDO, but you can see the actual picture. Import lobby zindabad..........
👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎.
DRDO 40 saal se ATGM develop kr rhi h aur abhi bhi overweight h.. MANPADs ka bhi same haal h. Min hitting range 200mtr se jyada h.
@@nishantshrivastava9674 MPATGM is a man portable version of Nag missile and work on it was started from 2015, i.e 9 years ago from today. I guess mathematics is easy here 😐😐. Talking about its weight, it has a weight of 14.5 kg, with its command launch unit (CLU) weighing 14.25 kg with range from 200m to 4km. And definitely it is more affordable.
Screw 🪛 driver assembly is what India will do.
🇮🇳स्वदेशी उत्पाद ही श्रेष्ठ है। मत भटकिए।🇮🇳
From last 5-6 years defence sector is again dipping. 😢😢 Ask govt what happened to make in India and self reliant India. 😢 And one thing Congress lover don't comment coz still better than congress govt.
Please notice nothing has been bought. MMRCA has been in talks for over 20yrs. 10 Tapas and 150LCH order are actually about be signed.
😂😂😂dalali to dikhani hi thi tum jaise gulamo ko congress bhi vaise hi thi jaisi bjp hai aur 5-6 saal pahle bhi tumhe bas pr hi dikhta tha paid media ka ye adani aur reliance ki dalali kar rahe hai desh ke sare resources unhe de kar aur kal ko agniveer ko bhi unhi ke hatho me theke par dekhar private army bhi bana sakte hai ye sale angrejo ke dalal ye naye tarike se east India company chala rahe hai
Rajnath Singh is a useless defence minister. Manohar Parikar Ji was the best man for this job but he passed away too soon.
He left office of MoD for Goa CM post.
Absolutely right 👍
Creame ministry cream position and zero performance
Ja bula la Swarg se Waps😂😂
Jo Zinda bkl DRDO hai aur Indian army k officials hain... unhoney hi kya ukhaad liya hai
Hope ...Neither striker nor javlin will come in India😊
Striker sirf 150 - 160 ke number me liya jaayega. China ka ilaaz krne ke liye.
Isse swadeshi whap pr koi effect nhi hoga.
Javelin ko bharat me aane se rokna hoga.
@@indianlovingreaction4000youtwoto kabhi mud me fas jata hai kabhi road se gir jata hai
I agreed that Tapas drone and Nag ATGM and Namica should be ordered in large numbers. Also when good platforms are available then foreign systems should not be bought. But atleast there's no reason for criticising Striker AD varient induction that is going on. Because it's a special application that would require considerably long to develop, testing, analysing and then production of such Indian system. Even if it only means development of software control system and integration of VSHORAD on TATA Kestrel. Thus, Striker AD is right thing happening. And VSHORAD is going user trials so it will take time.
Chandigarh lobby effect 😅
Kuch Chandigarh lobby nahi hai. ye Ajit Doval BKL kar raha hai.
What is it ?
@@devamjani8041 forging export lobby .. they always trying to push forign defence product .. they want just commission
@@devamjani8041 traitors within our defence forces who forces is to buy foreign maal for bribe or commission in that
Modi govt self reliant defence is facade...nothing else ...no improvement....rajnath singh is clueless he doesn't know anything about tech...mohohar parikar we miss u sir 😢😢😢
*manohar parikar
Atmanirbhar Bharat sirf chunavi jumla he kya
Bahut Corruption hai army ma higher level paa ...Soilders and Officers suffer coz of them
If we want foreign weapons, our condition must be transfer of technology and induction of above 60% indigenous components.
Make in India for Globe. This way we will be become largest components exporters in world.
Eg if you make components of F35 or F16, you will become supplier of that components worldwide.
It is a great pleasure that India is making America happy by continuously signing defense agreements with America and has punctured the slogan of self-reliant India,
A baby starting to walk can be a marathon runner one day. But it won't happen overnight. What we are witnessing today is the sum of all we decided and that happened since Independence.
Before becoming self reliant.. One need to become self sufficient and efficient reforms. DRDO jaisa langda ghoda jo 40 saal laga de ATGM develop krne me usse kvi self sufficient nhi bn skte ever evolving defense landscape me.
@@nishantshrivastava9674 You should also be critical of past governments and ever changing requirements of armed forces who could not freeze a set of parameters of the system to be developed. American, European and Japanese sanctions.
@@TheFreelancer007 Reform this langda ghoda DRDO and privatise HAL else u will be left with blame game instead of finished product. There were shortcomings in each product that's why ASQR kept changing. Hanwa defense and L&T were proactive.. They offered winter kit for their K9 thunder before Army asking for it during galwan clashes.
Kar di na chamaaro wali baat 😂😂😂
Our IA JINDABAD.. They want to fight 2 front war with imported weapons only.. God help India
So you want army to fight war with inferior or underproduction goods? Because nearly all army which have budget bought international equipment in addition to their indigenous
40 saal lag gye DRDO ko ek ATGM bnane me.. Kya pta Tejas mk1 ki tarah 70 shortcomings ho. Ye h efficiency lumber 1 DRDO ki😊
DRDO must be shut down and stop wasting our tax money
Atleast they can give something in the soldier's hand unlike 1962 where they gave 3 not 3 in front of Chinese machine guns 😂😂
Wow thats great..... Indian made defense equipments will be discarded now and in future... now again some businessman will be manufacturing the foreign defense equipments and amazingly defense experts will call that Make in India.....
Javelin is very expensive 😂😂😂😂
So from what you are saying, the Nag program began in 1982-83 and even as of now Nag has not been inducted? What's wrong with the system? Military doesn't talk to the designers and developers and keep changing specifications, and the DRDO keeps testing missiles year after year? What a ridiculous system, shame on us, our MoD, Army/Navy/IAF/DRDO/HAL etc.
Bros, we need to change the whole process, military specialists need to be embedded in the DRDO design team so that they can give real-time feedback! This is how the US and all Western R&D works. What is this pathetic process where decades go by without actual induction of the weapon system? Pyajama wearing Rajnath Singh needs to perk up and change the whole process. The DRDO review committee recommendations should be implemeted ASAP. I was shocked to see the latest Kargil documentary where even in 1999 we were not prepared with modern laser-guided bombs, GPS, artillary shells, etc. and we had to go begging to Israel who helped us. 1999 was not 1962 or was it? It sure looked like 1962 Phase 2. I don't know what the Indian military establishment does all day and all year. Your war gaming is very poor, you don't think big and don't consider various scenarios, always thinking old school style that "oh they won't do this", forgetting that the enemy has moved far ahead. You are always caight napping with your pants down. Look at Pakistan, how many drones they have, we have barely a dozen. They had BVR 120 km missiles after Balakot we didn't. They will get 5th GEn fighter before us. Where are we? Just shaking our you know what. One of the problems is our military establishment is full of egotistic old school generals who don't want to cooperate, with big muchas, jabering away. Have you seen some of the retid generals on some of the channels? Their thinking is so old school, they are not articulate at all, mumbling like fools. Can't believe they were in charge. How is Turkey able to develop so many weapons so quickly and induct it? South Korea? Their sales teams are so prepared when they go to sell their weapons to other countries, offering great value overall packagign the whole think in a lucrative manner. Our team goes ill-prepared, shows no professionalism, takes a huge contingent everywhere for "phoren" trip to shop with their fat biwis.... Khoob daru piyo Generals aur aish karo, you have no vision, and always think small.
Hmari forces indian equipments ko testing me hi rakhe-rakhe सड़ा kyu deti hai khas karke 'Indian Army' aur fir orders v nhi deti...
Agar kv deti v hai to 5-10 ke numbers me... Yhi baat agar foreign equipments ki aati hai to unki testing turant complete ho jati hai; agar khi pr fail v ho rhi hai to v usko nazarandaj kiya jaega jaisa ki Apache & Chinook ki case me kiya gya😢
Verba rhte hue v Igla-s ke orders diye gye aur hmari wali sad rhi hai 5 saalon se🤣
वो छोडो अदानी बनाएगा या अंबानी...वो बताओ😂
ye TATA ko jaayega. TATA bjp ka sabse bada funder hai. Adani ko mines, ports milta hai. Ambani ko internet + oil aur TATA ko defense. Sab saale MC hai
Koi bhi banaye fayda to desh ka hoga na bharat me banega to 😊
@@mayankindian3750 30 saal purani tech hai ghanta fayda....unka kuda kachara yaha banaoge aur royalty US companies ko jaayegi....Make in India ka matlab ye nahi tha ki foreign ke products India me banao 😅
@@Designerzola are bhai transfer of technology hai bhai or hamare khud ke log indian product ko support nahi karte hai
@@mayankindian3750 Accha? Log support karte hai tab koi product select hota hai??? Logo ne support kiya isliye GE ka engine tejas me lagaya gaya? ya local engine ko develop nahi kiya isliye lagaya gaya?
kuch bhi logic mat do.
Saare indigenous programs ko foreign product se replace kiya hai ye mat maano.
At certain times you need to learn from your enemies
US made javelin missile mehaj ek small weapon hai aur iss se behtar israel made spike missile to bharat ki armies pehle hi itemal kar rahi hain.🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
Hamara Dukh, Dard aur pida
Chup ho ja Amrica, B k L.... 😢
Why does the requirements changes so frequently?? Can't the give requirements considering / calculation 10/20 yeres further??? Don't they have vision/ plans for future??
30 saal purani tech saari bharat me bana rahe hai...waah.
I feel the javelin’s production is for India to be a supplier for western users. Not for our use as a main ATGM.
Best defence source Always learns from alpha defence
MAKE IN INDIA
India needs a lot of missile. Spike and Nag should be used side by side.
Javelin is way more expensive so India should ditch that
Sometimes Striker , and now Javelin.. Very pinching and frustrating. 😭😭😭
कुछ तो गड़बड़ है। छानबीन कीजिए। कुछ तो अवश्य मिलेगा।
Kal kangaru ko pel diya 😌😌😌
Stryker bhi toh le liya jabki Better Indigenous product available h
Question is humlog ka MPATGM ka induction kab hoga?
Justification should be given by forces not by government! because forces is the body o which recommendation government will have to react.
Sir you are forgetting about Russian Kornet missiles which are used by Indian Army.
Forgetting? That is 2nd Gen ATGM
@@AlphaDefenseHindi oh I didn't know that 😅
Army and Airforce just want foreign candy, don't like Indian halwa..
4 saal ka testing with no accountability...no induction dates..no quality
Testing Testing Testing...................!
Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Kharid lo jyada rupey hai.government jyada hai
I m happy that now DRDO is feeling the heat where they have have employed 15k people just for chai samosa stuff😂😂😂😂😂
Kesa na kesa delay karta raho aur phir import karta raho commission latta raho😂😂
Rather than this could be meant for export
Us might have issue in producing javelin in large numbers for Ukraine, Israel
40 saal laga diye DRDO ne aur abhi tk shoulder mounted ATGM na bna ske. Tri pod based le kr ghum rhe h 21st century me.. Reform kro yaar iss nikamme institution ko
do we have a top attack variant of NAG? light enough to be carried by humans? I don't think we do. That's why Javelin.
Javlen saa aacha Israel ki spick hh.
Spick movie tergat kar sakta hhh par javlen Nahi.
Spick kaa cost Kam hh javlen hhh.
Waise MOD ek din puri bhade ki army bhi le le toh achambhit mat hona...
What's the point of spending decades and millions spending on NAG ??
As usual our defence procurement makes no sense.
Adani will assamble javelin under Fake in India scheme and the name of the missile will be Modiastra.😂
All I can see is that DRDO is an incompetent organization and Indian army being a lazy Rookie who can't even figure out what they want...and together they have fcked up our overall weapons tech
In reference to Russia Ukraine and Israil Hamas wars, what indian change its defence equipment for future. Please make a video
Ek congress ka time hai jab America ne local production ke liye mana kar diya tha javelin ko
Most of indigenous system fail due to very long test period for 10-15 years ...because of this when its time to induct the system, Its already become obsolate
It's very unfortunate that our opposition won't ask the current govt for procurement of foreign weapon systems over indigenous weapon system.
Series productions of naag missile should be able to meet defence needs of bharat and of the export😮
Turkish antitank missiles omtas 2017 as hi sevice me hai 😢😢😢
Those who are talking trash about the Army and this decision should know that MPATGM even after large orders of Javelin will have a lot of room for enough orders and India has to replace older missiles in huge quantity so India needs missiles quick and fast
India have developed Nag anti tank missile after spending of huge amounts and long time, but eventually it was discord ed. It means that Indian have sever lack of confidence upon its indeginiously production
We get offer on those thonga that we made! Striker is heavier no use vehcles for us any chnges woll require US permission!
Import maal is supreme and OG.
Ye to Atmanirbhar Bharat ke ulta ja raha hai😐😐😐😐
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Dono induct hona chahiye bcz we need numbers
indigenous systems are always better. javelin and stinger if produced in india are good secondary options
India ke paas bhi naag, helina anti tank missile hai inhi ko apgrade version banane chahiye
Bana rahe hai, but uska man portable heavy hai, 14 kg for launcher compare to 6 kg launcher of of usa one. Usko tripod pe hi use kar sakte hai. Aur wo bhi abhi trail me nahi paucha hai
How is it different from VSHORAD
I hope screwdriver bhart doesn't win
Usa currently trying to manufacture all sort of weapons in india which has already have an alternative in India or India drdo working on it..
Basically to hurt India defence agency amd company these foreign companies 😂
Army not intrested own products but. Why
Its not government decission
Actually army selection will be final
Everyone please notice nothing has been bought. MMRCA has been in talks for over 20yrs. 10 Tapas and 150LCH are actually about to be bought.
Our nagastra must be ready hence all this nonsense
2017 se army avi tak order kiu nei diya..
Sir kay drdo ki mpatgm inferior hai javelin se?
Chandigarh lobby is doing same again and again
Do they want sabotage our atmanirbharta
Why is Javelin missile being pushed when MPATGM is available. I thought in missile tech, we became self sufficient.
Ye desh Kabhi atmanirbhar nehi hoga
Now, my only guess is corruption
Nag KO bhul ke javelin kyu?
But what about amogh 3 anti tank missile
Just like India made F -16.
I think last time they denied TOT on this system
JAI HIND 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Javelin provan hai but we can also prove NAG by providing it to Israel. It could be tested in Lebanon
Vande matram.
mpatgm and bdl
amogha 3 both have only 500 mm steel penetration while javelin has 1000 mm steel penetration.
Otherwise amogha 3 is better than both javelin and mpatgm but the warhead is not capable , it's for only 500mm steel over era.
If they can combine the javelin with tonbo imaging's uncooled optic system and launcher, that would be a great missile system.
Otherwise they just should upgrade the warhead in amogha 3 for better penetration and that will become the best missile in class.
French Akeron are better than these !
Worst Indian army
Worst defence minister
Indian Navy ❤️❤️❤️ Indian Air force ❤❤❤
Total fun policy.
Atma badbad bharat 😅
Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Jai hind
This is nonsense
Since 1988, the illustrious Nag missile has been a cherished work-in-progress for India, proudly touted for 36 years as the epitome of unbeatable technology. However, in a surprising twist, India is now shopping for anti-tank missiles from Russia, Israel, and the United States. Even Hamas managed to cobble together a basic anti-tank missile that works, yet India seems to be struggling to match their achievement. It's a curious case of boasting about unparalleled qualities while turning to foreign markets for what others seem to create effortlessly.
@@TatyaVichooCentrist
Agree, The Javelin missile system is not traditionally reloadable in the sense that the launch tube is disposable. Each Javelin missile comes pre-loaded in a single-use launch tube assembly, which is discarded after the missile is fired. The Command Launch Unit, however, is reusable and can be attached to another missile in a new launch tube.
Other side our Atgm launch tube is re-lodable.
@@TatyaVichooCentrist No I don't know. Do enlighten me
Jab drdo jo cheez bana leta baad mae wahi offer ki jati 😂😂