I didn't find this video to be too much talking. I listen to videos for your perspective and experience. I have yet to find your information to be too long in content. Thanks!
Thank you for the education great video. PODcast/ Talking head video's like this one are absolutely appreciated when you are sharing that type of knowledge. Keep 2A alive.
Thank you Ray. Talking is a good thing. I always learn something new from you. Ole Kenny has come a long way on his builds. Knowledge is power. Thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge.
What a great video! Thank you so much Ray. The level of gear 'fine tuning' available to the shooting public, right now, is absolutely amazing. 'Form follows function!'
Ray, your's is BY a MILE the best shooting content on the Net. By far the best knowledge and presentation style. I lean a ton every time i see one of your videos. This one is a gem.. loaded with exactly the info i need right now. You do it because you like the community and shooting as a lifestyle and it shows in your whole approach to your content. Simply outstanding. Your efforts are hugely appreciated and for me, simply because i do not have access to barrels, scopes and the rest of the specialist stuff, your testing and unbiased opinions are pure gold! In the years of surfing the net, your channel is THE ONLY one i subscribe to. Massive thanks for what you do!!!
Such a great video. I started with a 308 chasing speed well above book numbers and ran into issues when i went up 7000 feet altitude and warmer than when i developed the load. After that i built a valkyrie and co.oeted and learned thru 2 barrels on that. Niw i use the 6gt, and probably wont change. I havent gone back to my data to see a velocity node slower, but i had exceptional results at 2950. Ill never be competative as a cripple since 2009, so i just go have fun and wnjoy the great company. Also never had feed issues on the bolt gun. Havent yet put the gas gun barrel into a receuver 3 years after getting it
Earlier this year I watched your XLR rifle chassis magazine adjustment video from probably a year ago at this point and now I'm building my first bolt action. Originally hated bolt actions cause in my mind once you bought one in that caliber that was it. I had no idea you could take a 700 SA and do barrel swaps on them without taking them to a gunsmith. Normal hunting rifles are also very uncomfortable for me to use. Being able to go from a 14.5" with a suppressor in 6.5 Creedmoor for white tail to a 6.5 PRC with a 20" barrel for elk all in one rifle is wonderful. Anyway, this video might get me to try out some long range stuff as well, if I can find a range that goes out past 200 in my area. Keep up the great work!
I've always appreciated your videos, you've gotten me into my practice and one day I'll start to throw myself into the mix of competition.. very insightful thoughts and how you've come about the sport.. practice for fun and practice with a purpose!
Thanks for sharing so much information Ray, I really appreciate it. This was a very good video for me as I have been contemplating between 6.5 Creedmoor and 6 Creedmoor, and you answered this for me. I plan to hunt and do have a 308, which is honestly a great hunting rifle, but I would like to get something with better ballistics, pretty much exactly what you pointed out. I agree, the 6.5 Creedmoor is a better cartridge, and it's still readily available and is easier to get projectiles for reloading than many others. It was apparent that the 105 was more difficult for Jamie also.
U will be surprised how much jump a hybrid will still shoot tight groups with. With my 109 hybrid, I'm jumping .080 and getting killer groups. Now I can put the bullet in the lands, but I was getting my largest node on back. One thing I have noticed is I don't have to chase my seating depth near as much when I run more jump.
Ray, A good insight into the evolution of PRS vs other rifle disciplines. Surprised on the current scope from a shooter of Nightforce and TT's in the past.
I’m in the U.K. and just getting into firearms. Every video like this I watch, the more confused about what I should get I become and the more I realise how little I know. I guess, luckily, with our laws/licensing system being what they are, I’m definitely getting a 6.5mm creedmore.
@@lgdurocher They likely do anyway 🤣. It’s not taboo but it’s certainly not as common as in the US. There’s a certain amount of unfamiliarity that does draw some looks but I’ve found it’s not as uncommon as I first thought……just seems that most people with firearms tend to keep it a bit more quiet. If I’m honest, I was born in the wrong country for my interests and do wish it was a bit more common/accepted/less hassle.
Love your content and the variety. How about a review on tri pods/ball mounts (lots of options for new guys) or a 50 bmg review 😎keep up the great videos
Man you got some wicked gear ray…I’d like to learn about shipping expensive rifles n such…I’m thinkin bout building my 700 7mm into a long range rig possibly in 7saum and have never shipped one…shootin 6.5prc waypoint now with 140 bergers and tipped gamekings for deer…thanks buddy..matt
@@XRINGyes, they absolutely need space and exercise. I grew up with them as a kid, luckily we had a nice big yard. Ours were naturally excellent hunters, a lot of squirrels and rabbits never made it back out once they came through that fence.
What are your thoughts of running a SAAMI 6 creed FB with, say, the 115 DTAC? Thats what im looking to load in mine? And just because it CAN run those aat 3000fps, you'd suggest running it a good bit slower for better trace and probably better barrel life?
Great question. So that is what I did in the beginning. I was running the 115 DTACS as well but have learned that the slower velocity is what you really want.
@@XRING David tubb has them on sale for around 38 cents per bullet and they're a bit easier to get than than my old go to's which was the 105's and 109 bergers. I was thinking about running them around 2900, though max charge woul put them around 3050 in a 226in barrel. I originally thought speed speed because i only thought stability. MPA is making ma a 1:7 twist barrel which will be more then adequate to stabilize these even at slower speeds
Ive shoot a 6 GT for 600 yard F-Class.. I see ZERO advantage over a 6CM for PRS. As Xring stated, you can get the same velocity performance and gain availability on ammo.
Looking to get my first LR rifle leaning towards a Bergara HMR Pro heavy barrel or Bergara premium match rifle, both in 6.5…Any thoughts.? Or advice.? Love your channel
I was wondering why they used such small rounds, I figured it was for recoil or barrel life considering there is no bullet expansion to worry about Well now I'm not worried about PRS calibers anymore, I'm pretty much interested in hunting only
9:46 The online specifications for the Zeiss LRP S3 say that the Eye Relief is only 3 - 3.5 inches. Is the Eye Relief really that "short" or is it more forgiven? I generally like at least 3.5+ inches of Eye Relief at maximum magnification.
Why couldn’t the 105 hybrid work with a SAAMI freebore? It may not group as well with a seating depth set for a shorter freebore, but they can be loaded longer. Even .135fb’s work great with the 105 hybrids. I’m just really confused by that statement
Too much jump in my rifles. The accuracy just goes out the window. I have tried up to the point that only half of the bullet is seated in the neck. Just doesn’t work well for me.
Hi, Ray!...very helpful video as always!... I checked out Kauger Arms' actions. Is yours their Benchrest Dual Port BR III OR BRII? Looks like it has a dual port. I think it is their BR II MODEL? By the way, What is the benefit of a dual port?
I know this question is not part of this video ,but in 22 rimfire can a non- controlled feed rifle be consistent out beyond 300 yards? If so ,what would you recommend. I have a stock tikka T1x . Should I get a chassis and barrel or just get a controlled feed action?
Hi Ray, I’ve been shooting for just over a year in the UK and have learned a lot from your videos - thanks ! I’m just about to buy my first long-range rifle in 6.5 CM. I’ve narrowed it down to 2 rifles and watched your videos on both - the Tikka T3 A1 TAC and the Christensen Arms MPR. You’ll probably say “it depends “, but all things being equal, would you recommend one over the other? Thanks- Greg
Cool you're getting in to it. Do you watch Chris Parkins and Richard Utting? I like watching their stuff to see what you all get over there that we don't get in the states. They also happen to be great shooters.
Did NRL Hunter address the min PF issue, if I remember right you had to be careful with 6.5 cm or it wouldn't make the PF, especially with factory ammo they would allow some lea way
@@XRING yeah at one time it was worded as factory sealed boxes. It just got me thinking when you were talking about slowing velocity down. Handloads aren't allowed any lee way I don't think
Hello, you say the action of your rifle is a Cobra Arms from Georga but i cant seem to find them on google. is that name accurate or am I just bad a googleing?
Awesome will do! Ironically, we were talking about you yesterday. A friend of mine was talking about having a custom precision rifle made and was asking about your services.
I think PRS should add some movements into the matches ... At this point its basically turning into who has the most accurate rifle... They should limit weights and have you move with it some distance to add human errors to really see who is a better shooter.
Did you know there is a wolf behind you 😁
Your videos are part of what got me into shooting long range back in 2020. What a journey it’s been. Keep up the great content!
Thank you Jason! I hope the journey continues and I thank you for watching!
10:32 continue that way, that's why we trust and enjoy your videos.
I didn't find this video to be too much talking. I listen to videos for your perspective and experience. I have yet to find your information to be too long in content. Thanks!
This channel is like grad school for shooters. Incredible content.
Thank you for the education great video. PODcast/ Talking head video's like this one are absolutely appreciated when you are sharing that type of knowledge. Keep 2A alive.
That desert precision is beautiful!
Thank you Ray. Talking is a good thing. I always learn something new from you. Ole Kenny has come a long way on his builds. Knowledge is power. Thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge.
What a great video! Thank you so much Ray. The level of gear 'fine tuning' available to the shooting public, right now, is absolutely amazing. 'Form follows function!'
Thanks sjohnson and thanks for watching the channel.
Ray, your's is BY a MILE the best shooting content on the Net. By far the best knowledge and presentation style. I lean a ton every time i see one of your videos. This one is a gem.. loaded with exactly the info i need right now. You do it because you like the community and shooting as a lifestyle and it shows in your whole approach to your content. Simply outstanding. Your efforts are hugely appreciated and for me, simply because i do not have access to barrels, scopes and the rest of the specialist stuff, your testing and unbiased opinions are pure gold! In the years of surfing the net, your channel is THE ONLY one i subscribe to. Massive thanks for what you do!!!
Hey John and thank you very much for the comment. I appreciate you watching and subscribing to the channel. 👍🏼. Have a great week.
Thank you, Brother, for your video.
Thanks for the information . Elkhound in the back is great to 👍
Rays amazing. Thanks for everything, all the help and input
Thank you dboyz31 👍🏼
Omg I didn't think the dog was real lol I thought it was a statue , awesome guns beautiful dog.
Ray thanks as always for all the information. I learn with every video. That is one sweet rifle.
Such a great video. I started with a 308 chasing speed well above book numbers and ran into issues when i went up 7000 feet altitude and warmer than when i developed the load. After that i built a valkyrie and co.oeted and learned thru 2 barrels on that. Niw i use the 6gt, and probably wont change. I havent gone back to my data to see a velocity node slower, but i had exceptional results at 2950. Ill never be competative as a cripple since 2009, so i just go have fun and wnjoy the great company. Also never had feed issues on the bolt gun. Havent yet put the gas gun barrel into a receuver 3 years after getting it
Excellent video, keep it real
Your videos are to a lot of help for a newbie!:) Thank you very much!
Great info sir! I’ve been considering 6CM as well. Nice to know I’m not alone on that.
Earlier this year I watched your XLR rifle chassis magazine adjustment video from probably a year ago at this point and now I'm building my first bolt action. Originally hated bolt actions cause in my mind once you bought one in that caliber that was it. I had no idea you could take a 700 SA and do barrel swaps on them without taking them to a gunsmith. Normal hunting rifles are also very uncomfortable for me to use. Being able to go from a 14.5" with a suppressor in 6.5 Creedmoor for white tail to a 6.5 PRC with a 20" barrel for elk all in one rifle is wonderful. Anyway, this video might get me to try out some long range stuff as well, if I can find a range that goes out past 200 in my area. Keep up the great work!
Kenny did one hell of a job on that bad boy! Zeiss is an awesome scope in my opinion,never had any trouble
Thank You Sir! This were great insights! The groups looked really great! 👍🇺🇸
You are the best 👍 love watching all your videos
I've always appreciated your videos, you've gotten me into my practice and one day I'll start to throw myself into the mix of competition.. very insightful thoughts and how you've come about the sport.. practice for fun and practice with a purpose!
Thanks for sharing so much information Ray, I really appreciate it. This was a very good video for me as I have been contemplating between 6.5 Creedmoor and 6 Creedmoor, and you answered this for me. I plan to hunt and do have a 308, which is honestly a great hunting rifle, but I would like to get something with better ballistics, pretty much exactly what you pointed out. I agree, the 6.5 Creedmoor is a better cartridge, and it's still readily available and is easier to get projectiles for reloading than many others. It was apparent that the 105 was more difficult for Jamie also.
Thanks, your advice is always appreciated. Thanks for the video.
Man just the sheer knowledge dumb you give when do a video is great! Thank you
Great information, thanks Ray
Thanks for posting! A learning experience. Shooting at range is so safe because of the procedures drilled in us to provide multiple levels of safety.
Loved 4 legged partner in the background 😀
A VERY well done & informing video !!! - Thanks So Much for sharing !!....TOTALLY Agree on the Zeiss Optics fer sure !!! - I am with you there !!
Always a tones of knowledge thank you Sir . God bless you all Abundantly
good to see you’re back
U will be surprised how much jump a hybrid will still shoot tight groups with. With my 109 hybrid, I'm jumping .080 and getting killer groups. Now I can put the bullet in the lands, but I was getting my largest node on back. One thing I have noticed is I don't have to chase my seating depth near as much when I run more jump.
Excellent information. Not too much talking. Nice wolf, too (Alaskan Malamute)!
Great video. Great information. Thank You!
Thanks for the knowledge X-Ring !!!!!!!!!!!!
Love that rifle!!! Cerakote job is sweet.
Awesome video. You make it easier for someone to develop some confidence. Thanks for all you do!
Thanks Charles and thank you for watching the channel.
Love the knowledge brother
thank You for a very informative video 🙏👍🇸🇪
Sweet rifle Ray you sure do keep Kenny busy!
Thankful for your content 🙌
Thank you for watching the channel Alexander!
Great info. Love that rig Kenny built.
Always a Beauty of a Rifle you use! I love it! Hope all is well brother🍻
Glad to see Kenny is still building
quality. Glad you mentioned the velocity perspective. No more shooting the 6C at 3000 fps.
Ray, A good insight into the evolution of PRS vs other rifle disciplines. Surprised on the current scope from a shooter of Nightforce and TT's in the past.
Starting t upload more often. I love it
Thanks for another video
Great info Ray
Thanks Corwin and thanks for watching.
I’m in the U.K. and just getting into firearms. Every video like this I watch, the more confused about what I should get I become and the more I realise how little I know.
I guess, luckily, with our laws/licensing system being what they are, I’m definitely getting a 6.5mm creedmore.
If you can, get a rifle that can shoot 308Win....it's cheaper and it will always be around.
@@tacticalmattfoley Just got my FAC through and it states 6.5CM. I could apply for a variation but that’d be months before/if it was approved.
Is that a taboo in the UK? If you told your fellow citizen you’re getting into guns/shooting, would they look at you funny?
@@lgdurocher They likely do anyway 🤣. It’s not taboo but it’s certainly not as common as in the US. There’s a certain amount of unfamiliarity that does draw some looks but I’ve found it’s not as uncommon as I first thought……just seems that most people with firearms tend to keep it a bit more quiet. If I’m honest, I was born in the wrong country for my interests and do wish it was a bit more common/accepted/less hassle.
@@Smatnm yeah. As disheartening as our active shootings are…I can’t help but be grateful to be American just because of my love for firearms.
that winter camo rifle looks absolutely sick
Phenomenal, thanks.
Just learning. Thanks!
Solid video bro 👊🏽
Thanks Gamaliel. I hope you have a great week sir.
Love your content and the variety. How about a review on tri pods/ball mounts (lots of options for new guys) or a 50 bmg review 😎keep up the great videos
I second the video on tripods and mounts. I’m in need of one and prices are all over the place.
We appreciate you sir
Great video
Awesome! Thank you
Man you got some wicked gear ray…I’d like to learn about shipping expensive rifles n such…I’m thinkin bout building my 700 7mm into a long range rig possibly in 7saum and have never shipped one…shootin 6.5prc waypoint now with 140 bergers and tipped gamekings for deer…thanks buddy..matt
Nice back in 80ies 303 comps or 308 in slr good old days.
Thanks Ray. Will you be shooting any of the matches at MKM Precision in Pennsylvania this year?
Hey Charles.
Probably won’t be headed that far north this year.
Very cool!
Good content
dont see norwegian elkhounds very often. great dogs.
Not a dog you see every day.
They have a great temperament as well, but they just need to be outside with tons of exercise constantly.
@@XRINGyes, they absolutely need space and exercise. I grew up with them as a kid, luckily we had a nice big yard. Ours were naturally excellent hunters, a lot of squirrels and rabbits never made it back out once they came through that fence.
Awesome Shepherd doing Overwatch. Haha, Just like mine.
What a zen scenery
Love the videos sir. What’s your opinions on 6mm Creedmoor in an AR10?
Hi, great video's but could you do one about the DSR-1 rifle, if you could get your hands on one? kind regards
I noticed the SWW TMB on a rifle with rings, but no scope. Hopefully that's a sign of content to come?...?..?.
71 was a good year
I don't remember 71 but I did like growing up in the 80's quite a bit. Society wasn't as hectic as it is now.
Let's GO!
Thanks Ray. And for 52 you are in great shape! keep up the good videos, Please dont do the Patreon shit
Do we just tell desert precision that we want the ray special rifle when ordering?
Kenny would have to know which Ray special rifle you are referring to! 🤣😂🤣. There are several.
What are your thoughts of running a SAAMI 6 creed FB with, say, the 115 DTAC? Thats what im looking to load in mine? And just because it CAN run those aat 3000fps, you'd suggest running it a good bit slower for better trace and probably better barrel life?
Great question. So that is what I did in the beginning. I was running the 115 DTACS as well but have learned that the slower velocity is what you really want.
@@XRING David tubb has them on sale for around 38 cents per bullet and they're a bit easier to get than than my old go to's which was the 105's and 109 bergers. I was thinking about running them around 2900, though max charge woul put them around 3050 in a 226in barrel. I originally thought speed speed because i only thought stability. MPA is making ma a 1:7 twist barrel which will be more then adequate to stabilize these even at slower speeds
I quit the 6 CM and went to 6GT and 6mmARC AND a EC Tuner Brake.
Ive shoot a 6 GT for 600 yard F-Class.. I see ZERO advantage over a 6CM for PRS. As Xring stated, you can get the same velocity performance and gain availability on ammo.
@@gun-disiac4511 and manage recoil and follow up shots better with 6GT or 6ARC.
Hello Ray, how many rounds do you get out of your six Creedmoor?
Well done
Good morning sir what barrel twist rate do you use for your 6 mm Creedmoor?
Looking to get my first LR rifle leaning towards a Bergara HMR Pro heavy barrel or Bergara premium match rifle, both in 6.5…Any thoughts.? Or advice.? Love your channel
I was wondering why they used such small rounds, I figured it was for recoil or barrel life
considering there is no bullet expansion to worry about
Well now I'm not worried about PRS calibers anymore, I'm pretty much interested in hunting only
True. However, the NRL Hunter series is based off of hunting calibers and is another option.
@@XRING !! That's awesome, thank you! I never heard of this series
9:46 The online specifications for the Zeiss LRP S3 say that the Eye Relief is only 3 - 3.5 inches. Is the Eye Relief really that "short" or is it more forgiven? I generally like at least 3.5+ inches of Eye Relief at maximum magnification.
What do you think about 6mm ARC?
Why couldn’t the 105 hybrid work with a SAAMI freebore? It may not group as well with a seating depth set for a shorter freebore, but they can be loaded longer. Even .135fb’s work great with the 105 hybrids. I’m just really confused by that statement
Too much jump in my rifles. The accuracy just goes out the window. I have tried up to the point that only half of the bullet is seated in the neck. Just doesn’t work well for me.
Hi, Ray!...very helpful video as always!... I checked out Kauger Arms' actions. Is yours their Benchrest Dual Port BR III OR BRII? Looks like it has a dual port. I think it is their BR II MODEL? By the way, What is the benefit of a dual port?
At the time stamp of 5:50... That is Rick, he now identifies are a dog... lol
Dru Dru . Good video Ray
I know this question is not part of this video ,but in 22 rimfire can a non- controlled feed rifle be consistent out beyond 300 yards? If so ,what would you recommend. I have a stock tikka T1x . Should I get a chassis and barrel or just get a controlled feed action?
Hi Ray, I’ve been shooting for just over a year in the UK and have learned a lot from your videos - thanks !
I’m just about to buy my first long-range rifle in 6.5 CM.
I’ve narrowed it down to 2 rifles and watched your videos on both - the Tikka T3 A1 TAC and the Christensen Arms MPR.
You’ll probably say “it depends “, but all things being equal, would you recommend one over the other?
Thanks- Greg
Cool you're getting in to it. Do you watch Chris Parkins and Richard Utting? I like watching their stuff to see what you all get over there that we don't get in the states. They also happen to be great shooters.
My wife has PMS on a monthly basis, does count!!😂😂😂 Is the 6mm ppc still a popular caliber these days for PRS shooting??
LOL!. I don't remember the last time someone on my squad was running the 6ppc.
In your experience, what is the best rifle caliber that can use small rifle primers reliably? Thanks
That’s all I use in my 6 Creedmoor’s
Damn dire wolf in the background!
I really want to get into PRS
Ray, is that a Brindle Akita in the background?
It's a beautiful dog. 👍🏼
The rifles are nice too. :-)
Hey brother, been following you for several years, great content! Wondering what you do for a living & are you prior Leo?
Did NRL Hunter address the min PF issue, if I remember right you had to be careful with 6.5 cm or it wouldn't make the PF, especially with factory ammo they would allow some lea way
I was told factory ammo is ok for 6.5
@@XRING yeah at one time it was worded as factory sealed boxes. It just got me thinking when you were talking about slowing velocity down. Handloads aren't allowed any lee way I don't think
Hello, you say the action of your rifle is a Cobra Arms from Georga but i cant seem to find them on google. is that name accurate or am I just bad a googleing?
Kauger Arms. It’s my bad southern accent! 😂
Hey, Enjoy watching your show. Holler at me sometime I own smoky mountain custom guns. I'm in Burnsville NC
Awesome will do! Ironically, we were talking about you yesterday. A friend of mine was talking about having a custom precision rifle made and was asking about your services.
I really hate that Big Ivey shut down
Hey ray watch out u got a wolf behind you!😂
I think PRS should add some movements into the matches ... At this point its basically turning into who has the most accurate rifle... They should limit weights and have you move with it some distance to add human errors to really see who is a better shooter.
LOL. That’s called a ruck match and or Sniper match! 😁
@@XRING I might try out for that :D Just wish there was 700 yards range near me.
Hey sir, I know you’re primarily into bolt guns, but how do you feel about SPR’s/5.56 gas guns for LR?
LOL! I’m in to gassers even more. I love the 5.56 and SPR’s. I took a 20” out to a mile with one. Nothing like M262! 😁
Gasser content would bet greatly appreciated as well!👍🏻