Well he already started ruining that “tragedy” by bring back Saul to life as oda always does. We gonna find out later all the ohara people hid in a basement for decades
Brooks story will forever be so much more tragic than Robin's to me. Yes she has to live with, and in her mind relive the tragedy of Ohara probably every day. But Brook had to live through his tragedy twice in actuality, with the second time taking decades to pass, meanwhile carrying that with him, but still bringing smiles to faces with his music - Every. Imu-damned. Day.
While it's likely that Kuma made certain assumptions about Luffy's character and how he'd handle Amazon Lily. I think one huge reason is staring us right in the face. Kuma knows why Saobody is a warzone when he gets there, he knows that Luffy rocked a celestial dragon right in the teeth, if he knows a single thing about Boa Hancock he'd know how much shed respect that. Couple that with Amazon Lily being historically closed off and you get an ideal hiding place.
Also I guess why he arrived in Sabody in time to teleport them was because he was travelling to meet someone on New World. And accidentally arrived in time. And I guess the one he trying to meet was SHANK. At the end of battle of Marinefort, Shank by somehow appeared immediately to protect Koby and ended the war and their ship by somehow after fighting with Kaido a short time ago can go from Wano to Marinefort IN TIME without BE SPOTTED. My theory was that he knew if Luffy be separated, he will trying to rescue Ace and he really want someone to take care of Luffy. After teleported SH to his designated location, he told Rayleigh about Luffy's location and proceed to Fishman Island on coated transportation ship and met Shank on halfway. Then after discussion he teleported Shank and Ben Beckman to Marinefort DIRECTLY, meanwhile his ship and crews be teleported to another safe location near Marinefort. Thanks to Kuma the Red Hair Pirate already in position before the battle began and they only intervene when Luffy's life in danger. That's also explained why he need a while to returned and protect Thousand Sunny because he has to wait for another coated transportation vessel passed through.
That's a very insightful point cause. It is certainly possible that Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily in order to protect him from the World Government and its agents. Kuma knew that the World Government would be looking for Luffy after he punched a Celestial Dragon, and he knew that Amazon Lily would be a safe place for him. The island is secluded and heavily guarded, and it is unlikely that the World Government would be able to find Luffy there. Kuma also knew that Boa Hancock would be sympathetic to Luffy's plight. Hancock is a former slave herself, and she understands the suffering that Luffy has endured. She would be more than willing to help him, and she would also be able to protect him from the World Government. Sending Luffy to Amazon Lily was a risky move, but it was also a calculated risk. Kuma knew that Hancock would be able to protect Luffy, and he also knew that it would give Luffy a chance to recover and regroup. This decision shows that Kuma was not a mindless slave to the World Government. He was still a man of compassion and loyalty, and he was willing to put his own life on the line to protect those he cared about.
Kuma didn't know what had happened between Zoro and Mihawk but he did know that Mihawk had a interest in the Straw Hat Pirates because Mihawk himself said so in the meeting in Mary Geoise. Given What he had seem of Zoro in Thriller Bark he would've probably guess that sending Zoro to him would've been okay
for real, It's possible that Kuma was aware of Mihawk's interest in the Straw Hats and that he sent Zoro to him with the intention of having Mihawk train him. Mihawk is the world's greatest swordsman, and he is known for his reclusive lifestyle. He rarely takes on students, and he only does so if he believes that they have the potential to become truly great swordsmen. Zoro is a skilled swordsman, but he is still relatively inexperienced. He needs a mentor who can help him to reach his full potential, and Mihawk is the perfect choice. Kuma may have sent Zoro to Mihawk in the hope that Mihawk would recognize Zoro's potential and take him on as a student. If Mihawk did agree to train Zoro, it would be a huge opportunity for Zoro to grow and develop as a swordsman. It is also possible that Kuma sent Zoro to Mihawk as a way of testing him. Kuma may have wanted to see if Zoro was strong enough and determined enough to survive on Mihawk's island. If Zoro was able to survive on Mihawk's island and learn from him, it would prove that he is a true warrior. It would also show that he is worthy of being Luffy's first mate. Whatever the reason, it is clear that Kuma sent Zoro to Mihawk for a reason. He believed that Mihawk was the best person to help Zoro reach his full potential, and he was willing to take a risk in order to make it happen. This act of faith shows that Kuma believed in Zoro's potential, and that he wanted to see him succeed. It is a testament to the bond that Kuma had with the Straw Hats, and it is a reminder that even in the darkest of times, there is always hope.
@Itoyokofan Perona asked him to. Kuma asked where she would go if she could be sent anywhere and Perona immediately talked about a creepy mansion in the middle of an abandoned island (I'm paraphrasing). I also doubt Kuma would've wanted Moria's crewmate to suffer knowing the past he's had and how sympathetic Kuma is painted to be
I think that Robin was sent to the Revolutionaries not only because Kuma knew that his 'family' would protect her the most, but it was mentioned by a Revolutionary agent at Tequila Wolf that the Revolutionaries had a standing order to protect Robin if she was ever found.
Is also worth mentioning that the Ohara incident was a big trigger to the foundation of the revolutionary army, so is natural to them to protect Robin at all costs.
lol, That is an interesting point. It is certainly possible that Kuma was aware of the Revolutionaries' standing order to protect Robin, and that this played a role in his decision to send her to them. Kuma was a Shichibukai, and he was aware of the Revolutionaries' activities. It is possible that he had some kind of contact with them, or that he had learned about their standing order to protect Robin through other means. If Kuma did know about the Revolutionaries' standing order, it would explain why he sent Robin to them. He knew that they would be able to protect her from the World Government, and that they would also be able to help her to find her place in the world. It is also possible that Kuma had a personal connection to the Revolutionaries. He may have known some of their members, or he may have sympathized with their cause. Whatever the reason, it is clear that Kuma sent Robin to the Revolutionaries because he believed that it was the best place for her. He knew that they would be able to protect her and help her to find her place in the world. This act of kindness shows that Kuma was not as heartless as many people believed. He was a complex and conflicted character who was capable of great compassion.
it's kinda sad that you skipped Nami, where as she was the person who mostly resembles Ginny. I think it was the hardest for Kuma when he had to seperate Nami from the rest of the crew. Nami was the first Strawhat that Kuma encountered, and at that time Nami was in a wedding dress escaping from a forced marriage(just like Ginny) it must've been hard for Kuma to see that. And the place that Kuma decided to send Nami in Sabaody was A sky island, a place that Bonney wanted to go to celebrate her 20th birthday(in the end Nami actually had to celebrate her 20th birthday there), it was also a place that is perfect for Nami as she is smart and witty(just like Ginny) to learn and expand her weather knowledge and navigation skills.
I like it. Nice connection. I already thought it was really strange how Ginny was insanely similar to Nami as a pro thief, foul mouthed , wire tapping and most of all as stingy with money.
Usopp: Would never willingly train. Kuma sent him somewhere that would not give him a choice in the matter. Get stronger or die were Usopp's options. It was also a place where all of Usopp's other needs would be met as well as weapons to use. He just had to learn to fight Nami: Self-explanatory. He sent the Weather/Climatology savant to a place she could properly train and study. Chopper: Sent him somewhere that he was uniquely equipped to bridge the gap between man and beast.
Franky: Sent the Engineer to a place with unique Blueprints. Simple. Brook: Sent the scary skeleton pirate to a cult of devil worshipers for protection. Robin: Self-explanatory, Sent her directly to Dragon, somebody more of a threat to to the WG than she was. Sent the Last Survivor of Ohara to the World's Most Wanted Man....and his army. She was as close to safe as safe can get.
Sanji: A Kick fighter who cooks, and One of Luffy's top two Fighters. Sent to a place where he would be able to access great recipes and learn from a people that fight with kicks. The unexpected bonus is that Sanji would spend all his time running and hiding, and building up his strength in the process. Zoro (and Perona): Obviously, the Future World's Greatest Swordsman could stand a lesson from the Current one. I believe Kuma picked up that Mihawk was having a small mini internal issue concerning human bonds and felt it would be mutually beneficial, which is why both Perona and Zoro were launched straight to Mihawk's doorstep, leading both Zoro and Perona to get stronger during the Timeskip. Training for the youngsters. A lesson in people skills for Mihawk. Luffy: Is the tricky one and I believe that the unknown predecessor of Hancock may have ties to the Revolutionary Army that has yet to come to light. Regardless, Kuma also told Rayleigh his plan and if push came to shove, dealing with an Angry Hancock until Rayleigh arrived was better than fighting Kizaru.
ive seen another comment suggesting why kuma sent nami to a sky island, (im going to write from kumas pov) aside from controlling lightning, nami was so similar to ginny, first appearing while escaping a forced marriage, nami hit kuma close to home, so he sent her to a sky island to learn abt the weather & bc ginny wanted to go to a sky island on her 20th birthday (nami also celebrated her 20th birthday there)
how oda makes all these characters is beyond me, the connections after a decade is incredible, one piece is one of those shows where, rewatching it is another whole experience. Incredible, what a time to be a one piece fan.
I started following One Piece lore videos as manga Gear 5 Luffy took over the internet, before this I've never watched One Piece except for an episode or two as a kid like 20 years ago. Now that I am actually watching it (I just finished Amazon Lilly) I love seeing how things play out knowing some of the "truths" of the world of One Piece. (I know it's odd to spoil things for yourself before watching, but that's how I best enjoy content like movies or TV.)
There's a really cool amateur documentary detailing Oda's journey into becoming a world class manga writer. In it it states that Oda's former boss kept pushing him and pushing him to make new characters and stories. Oda didn't understand at first and was extremely frustrated that he kept making new stories and characters for years and then being told to scrap them and make a new story, or make the characters or story have more depth. Finally he realized that his boss was creating in him the ability to make many characters, to never forget about them, to truly base stories off characters, to understand that cool pictures and non character driven plots aren't enough. Then BAM, one piece starts and Oda is READY. Not only with the story he's been thinking about since a child and with nice artistic skills, but with new skills of being able to create a TON of characters, while making them interesting, useful to the plot and unique. That documentary finally helped me humanize Oda, I thought of him as a God and truly wondered how someone like him came to be. But now I can see the tiny steps, step by step, that it took to make him into the writer and artist that he eventually became. I recommend every one piece fan watch it.
honestly i think thats cause this wasw suppose to be like 5 years long not 25. so like kuma was prolly suppose to be revealed like a year or 2 after he showed up not 10. yk. really whats amazing his how hes able to make so much of it.
I've always found the scene when Kuma offers Luffy's pain to Zoro as odd, especially the more we got to learn about Kuma earlier in the story. If he was an ally all along, why would he intentionally risk Zoro's life? You've finally suggested a satisfying answer in that Kuma intended to take the pain himself, but was impressed at Zoro's resolve
kuma only intended to take the pain himself if zoro failed to do it himself. And zoro would only fail to do it if he died in the process. So really kuma did risk zoro's life but he survived through sheer will
It was maybe that Kuma could not take the pain due to his lack of being fully organic. He wanted to save Luffy, dragons son, and a potential Nikka. So he hoped Zoro would be able to do it and it payed off. He also knew if he didnt get someone to do it it would simply go right back to Luffy.
Brook’s ‘training’ makes so much sense too when you consider Kuma knew Saturn was a demon. Kuma sending Brook to a summoning circle might have inadvertently stopped an actual summoning before a real demon appeared because he knew how real and horrid these beings are.
Oh wow. This might feel like a huge reach now but that's truthfully a good point. They definitely could've summoned much worse and it's a great thing that Brook arrived before one of those Thriller Bark monsters, Saturn, or something even crazier got pulled in
Zoro: Sent to Mihawk, so he could learn from the best. Nami: Sent to Weatheria after witnessing her using meteorological phenomena in battle. Sanji: He noticed that Sanji was a martial artist, and thought he could learn from the Okama Kenpo masters of Kamabakka Queendom. Unfortunately, he didn't account for Sanji's distaste for drag queens. Chopper: Sent the little animal fella to a place where man and animal was at war with each other, hoping that he would bring peace. Usopp: He thought he was a bit scrawny and weak, so he sent him to a place where every day would be a fight for survival in the hopes of toughening him up. Robin: Finally having found her, he sends her to a place where he knows that she will meet the Revolutionaries, and trusts that they will keep her safe. Franky: Sent to Vegapunk's home so he could learn from the greatest mind in the world. Brook: Sent to a place full of occultist devil worshippers, where he would be the most likely to be accepted. Luffy: Sent to the home of a former slave, hoping that he would liberate her heart from the shackles of the Celestial Dragons.
Kuma could have sent Robin to Baltigo (Revolutionary Army HQ) but he likely wanted to show Robin that the Revolutionary Army was trustworthy once they freed the slaves of Tequila Wolf but did not account for her to become a slave when arriving.
Agree with all except Luffy. Why would Kuma go tell Rayleigh what he did if he thought that Luffy would be fine in Amazon Lily on his own? He probably figured, just as Morj said, that Luffy would find a way to survive until Rayleigh got there to mitigate the situation. But he had to tell Rayleigh first, otherwise who knows if Rayleigh would've even visited. He could've just drank and gambled for 2 years, definitely up his alley.
Eggland Island has done a lot of great things but for me getting more on Kuma(my favorite warlord) and the contextualization of his actions/ the Paw Paw fruit's pain ability has been a treat. It really does make his actions at Thriller Park and Saobody that much more palpable. There are still some more details that need to be fleshed out, like how he became known as the "Tryant" and a warlord, but Oda overall has been on fire with this arc/ backstory.
Well, wouldn't it make sense that the title of "Tyrant" was awarded to him by the world government. Much like the "worst generation", the titles do not represent the actual actions of the pirates, but rather the level of danger they pose to the world government. As such, once this title was awarded to Kuma, he choose to take on the role of warlord to protect his country and rule it like Dressrosa. Trafalgar did also take on the title of warlord during the timeskip, so he could safely traverse the grand line. Once a pirate has been labelled "Tyrant" or "Worst generation" they could expect a more aggressive response from the marines.
My pure head cannon is that Kuma sent Luffy specifically to an island that it would be impossible for him to join the paramount war. An island in the calm belt, where it's only inhabitants are women who hate men and it's ruler especially does so.
He coulda had some kind of interaction with gloriosa that we have yet to see on god valley so maybe he was sending luffy to her? I’m wondering why he didn’t slap Raleigh there right after honestly. Made that man swim rude as hell lol.
I always thought Kuma was going to take the damage onto himself. When we saw Kuma guarding the boat; the seeds were starting to grow. Now we see his flashback and it’s a full oak tree strength of carry for this saint of a human
Kuma sending Luffy to Amazon Lily for me, has always been related to the fact that Luffy recently punched a Celestial Dragon. It's possible that Kuma knew the story behind Boa Hancock, as she was a warlord like him, and was once part of the revolutionaries. I think he knew Luffy could find support in Amazon Lily in the situation he was in that moment.
i hope this flashback gives us Kuma's POV when he found out _why_ Kizaru had been sent to Sabaody. hearing that Luffy had just smashed in the face of a Celestial Dragon without hesitation to protect other people had to be A Moment for him
I think the question Kuma asked Perona has a bit of meaning behind it, where would you go for a vacation? Kuma can travel to many locations all over the world, and has likely helped the Revolutionary Army by researching islands. Brook is going to be the least likely to have much thought as Kuma had only recently met him. For the others, he made sure to send them somewhere that they would be able to get stronger the the areas they excel at.
Looking back on this, knowing this was Kuma's last moments (who knows in the future) it is incredibly tragic and by far the saddest life out of any character in One Piece :(
One thing I love about morj vids is that you can tell he is an excellent essay writer and that he thoroughly edits his scripts. I love me a rambling tekking video, but morj just drops in and out in a short concise video and makes a banger argument without wasting any time.
One thing I believe is that Kuma sent Luffy to the amazons because he saw Luffy's exceptional ability to get people on his side, and he knew Luffy would be able to befriend the amazons like what actually happened.
Kuma sending the crew to their temp homes for training was always ingenious because it gave them a way to not only get stronger but, it kept the government from going after them since at that point they were essentially on their own. When Kuma's flashback started it made it so there's a new way to look at it which is always what I love about this series. Though it could've been possible that for some of the other crew members, since Kuma and Vegapunk are good friends is it possible that he sent members like Nami, Chopper, and Usopp based on his suggestions or what he found in his research?
I think it's very possible kuma already identified Luffy as Nika and sent him to Amazon Lily, knowing that only a man who carries Nikas will could get the Amazons to spare him. This would connect with Mihawks statement that Luffy has the most dangerous power - to gain allies everywhere, so maybe that's part of being Joyboy/Nika
kuma literally teleported himself in my top 3 fav characters. man carried the title of "tyrant" while doing the work of god, endured the pain throughout his life and is still doing so. may he find happiness at the end
Great vid as always Morj. Two things I noticed: 1. Robin was sent to a space camp, not the revolutionaries directly. She was rescued by the revolutionaries while there. 2. Rayleigh didn’t know where Luffy was sent initially. He was told by Shakky based on her intuition.
Kuma likely knew the Revolutionaries were heading to Tequila Wolf, and there also may have been some significance to her being there that we still dont know. i feel like she's the crewmember whose 2 years we know the least about
We forget that Impel Down occurred after Amazon Lily. Meaning Kuma could have told Rayleigh but by the time he was otw to Amazon Lily, Luffy was already making a ruckus at Impel Down then Marine Ford. Shakky telling where Luffy would be after Marine Ford was based on her intuition
Watching this after reading 1099 gives things a whole new context. Knowing that Kuma put this much thought into where he sent the Strawhats mentioned in this video, we now have even further context about why the others were sent where they were. This only adds the conversation about Kuma's true intentions and reasonings behind how he helped the crew during and after Sabaody, plus in hindsight his character seems a lot more layered and nuanced in his actions; was he truly this foreboding about all that was to come regarding Luffy and the others? Interesting stuff!
On the reason why Luffy was sent to Lily, the fact people forget is that Luffy just punched a Celestial dragon causing him to be actively targeted by Kizaru (a marine admiral) and the rest of the marines. The fact that Amazon Lily is NOT only surrounded by the calm belt but also the fact that 1st, it's warlord territory 2nd, the strict rules forbidding men from entering makes it extremely difficult for the marines to pursue Luffy, making it the perfect place for Luffy to lay low. Also, when you account the fact that Reighly was told where Luffy was headed, you start to understand that Kuma understood that the island itself was dangerous considering Luffy is a man. You start to understand his intention was for Reighly to go and assist Luffy as soon as he can. That just shows how thought out Kuma's plam was if nothing else.
More than likely he sent Luffy to amazon lilly because its hard to leave. That is a common theme among all the islands, if he sent them someplace where they could just leave immediately then odds of them getting any benefits would likely be ignored as the crew would head straight back.
From the moment it was revealed that Kuma was a slave, I knew there was no way he was going to give Luffy up to the gov. The way I figure, Kuma was there to take Luffy to Dragon but was stunned into changing his mind. After the crew telling him off post conflict with Moriah, AND 2 of them making it through his attack AND one of them immediately counterattacking, I think Kuma decided the kid was going to be alright... but if Kuma were to have gotten word of what Luffy did at Sabaody... that's probably what made him decide he was going to bet on him.
What if turns out that Luffy’s mom was from Amazon Lily? Could that even be possible? That would add so much more context to him being sent there as well.
Another banger analysis by Morj!! It's almost supernatural the way Oda handles one piece. Just thinking about the amount of study he must make of HIS OWN STORY to make the world feel alive and connected plus the effort to keep things fresh and exciting gives me a headache lmao.
I think one possible connection for Amazon Lily is that Kuma being a former slave and a fellow warlord may have known about the Hancock sisters past. Pair that with Luffy being Nika, he may have made the gamble that Luffys personality and potential as well as his care for freedom wouldve earned him the trust of Hancock as a former slave who was freed and that Luffy would ultimately be safe there. Add on to Rayleighs connection to the island through his wife, it was a good choice for him.
I think Luffy was send to Amazon Lily because it is impossible for luffy to escape from in theory. Kuma just had to tell reyleigh where to find him and he was sure he would still be there. I don't think he expected Luffy to befriend the amazons and manage to leave the island.
Kuma possibly send Luffy to amazon lily because he knew hancock had been as slave of the celestial dragons in the past, and since Luffy had just hit one, Kuma knew that news like that would spread all across the world, so maybe he expected Boa to be an ally to the man who dared to atack her slavers.
9:29 At that point, no one knew Luffy was Dragon's son. Ivankov was surprised when Luffy told him in Impel Down, and he is closer to Dragon than Kuma is.
Another reason that could explain why Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily is that Kuma might have known that Hancock was a slave like him and that she would gladly help Luffy once she learns that he hit a celestial dragon.
I'm really getting emotional from this video.. so beautifully said Morj. It was a last moment effort. And Kuma sending Sanji to his best friend, the way you said it was so heartwarming.
Here is the thing. Iva wasn't at Kamabakka kingdom when Sanji was sent there. If Luffy didn't start the prison break, Sanji would be training under random Okamas not Iva and Izuma. Iva was wait for Dragon to break them out and only agreed to escape because Luffy was Dragon's son.
I also always wondered the meaning behind him sending Perona to Mihawk, because I'm sure it wasn't by accident either (like yeah she said she wanted a dark gloomy island and all, but I'm sure there are a ton of other locations in the world that fit this description, so why to Mihawk specifically ? I think that Kuma had a soft spot for her and wanted her to be safe regardless and he knew that Mihawk would probably keep her safe. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he saw a bit of Bonney in her and wanted for her to be safe
@@membersonly807 I dunno, but he probably knew that Mihawk is not the type of guy that would just mindlessly attack her and would let her stay, and since nobody is foolish enough to attack Mihawk then well......she'd probably be fine
@@sephikong8323 he did "mindlessly" attack the Don krieg pirates and killed over 5000 of them just because of "boredome" he seems somewhat evil but somewhat also Empathic to perona and Zorro later on
@@membersonly807 If I recall correctly, Don Krieg was said to have attacked him first and Mihawk just retaliated then pursued him and his fleet to send a message to those who try to attack him. Mihawk does not look like the type of guy that initiates an attack, but he also won't forgive people who go after him either
@@sephikong8323 it Was clearly stated that the Krieg pirates did NOT attack him , jeff (sanjis cook dad) jokingly said that they most likley disturbed his nap , mihawk is a menace
Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily bc it's where his mom is from. Dragon probably told him that he arrived on the island, earn the respect of their empress and married her. This was of course Crocodile. He thought he could manage to convince them to teach him haki, but little he thought he would put the same feat as his father. I will die on this hill.
I enjoyed the video, but I think you focused on the easy ones and it's the others that we should theorize more on. If we treat Kuma as the main character serving his own goals rather than the Strawhats, what purpose for him would Chopper, Nami, Usopp and Brook's destinations? Do any of these islands have ties with Kuma's past? Is weatheria the sky island he planned to take Bonnie to? Do the wizards have ties to the revolutionaries? Did the tribes people on Chopper's island? Did the revolutionaries use the Boin Archipelago as a base? What was Brook's choice for?? That's the big one I can't figure out. Was there something he missed? Was that the last place he rescued with the Revolutionaries? Why did none get sent to the Sorbet Kingdom? I hope that we get some hints at these in the upcoming chapters. Thanks for the fun video!
I mean it seems pretty clear Kuma realized the guy who punched a celestial dragon would be able to win over the Empress who used to be a slave to them. I’m sure his similarities to dragon were part of his faith in him too but still. Weird you didn’t mention that.
I cannot imagine how happy Kuma would be if he just knew how the Straw hats turned out. I'd actually cry my eyes out, if we cannot see an interaction between them. 😭😭😭😭
kuma sent luffy on amazon lili cause as you said kuma believed luffy will gain respect from the empress "like father like son" and I believe its not just respect but love too that both father and some gained on amazon lili. Luffy's mom should be the previous empress which kuma knew about so he sent luffy to his mothers homeland.
I think another contributing factor to Kuma thinking that Luffy could ally with Boa Hancock is his witnessing of Luffy punching that World Noble. He might have known, either from his own time as a slave or his time as Shichibukai, that Boa and her sisters were former slaves of Mary Geoise.
To add to Robin being sent to the revolutionaries, the entire reason they even exist in their current form is because of the Ohara incident, so his allies were probably really happy to see a survivor of it as well.
I think Kuma's assumption was based on something. He knows who Luffy's Mom was. No, not Gloriosa or anyone. But the Unnamed Queen that was before Hancock and that died of Love Disease. What killed her was not when Dragon left, but what killed was having to part ways with Luffy since Garp took him to Fushia Village for protection. Kuma realized that if Dragon was able to make the Queen of Amazon Lily fall for him, then Luffy should be able to also sway the Heart of Boa Hancock. And Kuma is a man that knows Love, he had Ginny after all. He knows everyone needs love and Hancock was in need of it.
One thing I feel was missed here was Brook and his destination. Given Brook watched the whole scene with Zoro and Kuma play out, that hes somehow undead, and he cares enough to defend Zoro despite being weaker than him, it’s clear Kuma would have a great deal of respect for our skeletal musician. All that being the case, it cant be a coincidence that he got sent to the satanist island. Kuma's meeting with Saturn on God Valley means he already knows about the Gorosei's devilish capabilities--maybe in his time as a revolutionary and a pastor he learned that the soul and the Gorosei's magic are connected? If Brook ends up clutching up against Saturn, then just pick up that phone for me, alright?
Love this look back. I had a different thought for the use of his power. Similar to Bonnie picking a future variant of the person she ages, Kuma can will a destined location for the person he pushes. The hand of liberation sends you to the best location for you, and/or Kuma can pick the location. This makes sense for his early use of the fruit as it should be based on your knowledge of the world's geography.
Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily because... Luffy's mother was an Amazon. Which is why she couldn't keep him. She was the Empress before Boa and she died because she longed to be with Luffy.
I think amazon Lilly is actually luffy’s real home meaning his birth place and that’s why he sent luffy there. It’s a much bigger reason than just training. They was sent to places where they could belong and grew strong while being well protected at the same time.
Kuma's appearance and Brook's backstory at the end of thriller bark got me to watch the next 700+ episodes to catch up in less than 2 months, funny because Moria was such a dumb villain to me that I also quit because of the same arc.
There's a theory that Luffy's mother was the previous empress of amazon lily (one before hancock). It could be one of the reasons kuma sent Luffy to amazon lily
i don't think that Kuma sent Sanji to Kamabakka kingdom for him to train with Ivankov. Ivankov was in impel down when Sanji arrived there, Iva didn't have any intention on leaving the prison until he meet Luffy, and I don't think that Kuma knew that Luffy would go to Impel down, impress Iva enough to make him leave and finally arrive to Kamabakka to train Sanji.
Oda said that he believed he cannot top the sheer tragedy of Robin, but I really think Kuma's really has the potential to do that.
Well he already started ruining that “tragedy” by bring back Saul to life as oda always does. We gonna find out later all the ohara people hid in a basement for decades
@@TimedOut4noReason bro he wrote robins story arch like 15 years ago saul being alive or dead really doesn't change its impact at all in my opinion
@@TimedOut4noReasonthis made me laugh a little too much 😂😂
@@dretheblackthe new generation of one piece reader would feel its impact.
Brooks story will forever be so much more tragic than Robin's to me.
Yes she has to live with, and in her mind relive the tragedy of Ohara probably every day.
But Brook had to live through his tragedy twice in actuality, with the second time taking decades to pass, meanwhile carrying that with him, but still bringing smiles to faces with his music - Every. Imu-damned. Day.
While it's likely that Kuma made certain assumptions about Luffy's character and how he'd handle Amazon Lily. I think one huge reason is staring us right in the face. Kuma knows why Saobody is a warzone when he gets there, he knows that Luffy rocked a celestial dragon right in the teeth, if he knows a single thing about Boa Hancock he'd know how much shed respect that. Couple that with Amazon Lily being historically closed off and you get an ideal hiding place.
Exactly. Her reaction to the newspaper said it all.
Also I guess why he arrived in Sabody in time to teleport them was because he was travelling to meet someone on New World. And accidentally arrived in time. And I guess the one he trying to meet was SHANK. At the end of battle of Marinefort, Shank by somehow appeared immediately to protect Koby and ended the war and their ship by somehow after fighting with Kaido a short time ago can go from Wano to Marinefort IN TIME without BE SPOTTED. My theory was that he knew if Luffy be separated, he will trying to rescue Ace and he really want someone to take care of Luffy. After teleported SH to his designated location, he told Rayleigh about Luffy's location and proceed to Fishman Island on coated transportation ship and met Shank on halfway. Then after discussion he teleported Shank and Ben Beckman to Marinefort DIRECTLY, meanwhile his ship and crews be teleported to another safe location near Marinefort. Thanks to Kuma the Red Hair Pirate already in position before the battle began and they only intervene when Luffy's life in danger. That's also explained why he need a while to returned and protect Thousand Sunny because he has to wait for another coated transportation vessel passed through.
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Broooo... This theory makes so much sense!!!! Like WTH, How could no one make this connection between Shanks and Kuma?!
Amazing dude
That's a very insightful point cause. It is certainly possible that Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily in order to protect him from the World Government and its agents.
Kuma knew that the World Government would be looking for Luffy after he punched a Celestial Dragon, and he knew that Amazon Lily would be a safe place for him. The island is secluded and heavily guarded, and it is unlikely that the World Government would be able to find Luffy there.
Kuma also knew that Boa Hancock would be sympathetic to Luffy's plight. Hancock is a former slave herself, and she understands the suffering that Luffy has endured. She would be more than willing to help him, and she would also be able to protect him from the World Government.
Sending Luffy to Amazon Lily was a risky move, but it was also a calculated risk. Kuma knew that Hancock would be able to protect Luffy, and he also knew that it would give Luffy a chance to recover and regroup.
This decision shows that Kuma was not a mindless slave to the World Government. He was still a man of compassion and loyalty, and he was willing to put his own life on the line to protect those he cared about.
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Celestial Dragons need to be in the same room as Shao Kahn, Quan Chi, and Shang Tsung for the arseholes they were.
Kuma didn't know what had happened between Zoro and Mihawk but he did know that Mihawk had a interest in the Straw Hat Pirates because Mihawk himself said so in the meeting in Mary Geoise. Given What he had seem of Zoro in Thriller Bark he would've probably guess that sending Zoro to him would've been okay
I came here to say the same thing lol
for real, It's possible that Kuma was aware of Mihawk's interest in the Straw Hats and that he sent Zoro to him with the intention of having Mihawk train him.
Mihawk is the world's greatest swordsman, and he is known for his reclusive lifestyle. He rarely takes on students, and he only does so if he believes that they have the potential to become truly great swordsmen.
Zoro is a skilled swordsman, but he is still relatively inexperienced. He needs a mentor who can help him to reach his full potential, and Mihawk is the perfect choice.
Kuma may have sent Zoro to Mihawk in the hope that Mihawk would recognize Zoro's potential and take him on as a student. If Mihawk did agree to train Zoro, it would be a huge opportunity for Zoro to grow and develop as a swordsman.
It is also possible that Kuma sent Zoro to Mihawk as a way of testing him. Kuma may have wanted to see if Zoro was strong enough and determined enough to survive on Mihawk's island.
If Zoro was able to survive on Mihawk's island and learn from him, it would prove that he is a true warrior. It would also show that he is worthy of being Luffy's first mate.
Whatever the reason, it is clear that Kuma sent Zoro to Mihawk for a reason. He believed that Mihawk was the best person to help Zoro reach his full potential, and he was willing to take a risk in order to make it happen.
This act of faith shows that Kuma believed in Zoro's potential, and that he wanted to see him succeed. It is a testament to the bond that Kuma had with the Straw Hats, and it is a reminder that even in the darkest of times, there is always hope.
The biggest question here is WHY DID HE SENT PERONA TO MIHAWK? Was he like: "Hey, old grumpy dude, here's a chick for ya to lighten your mood."
@Itoyokofan Perona asked him to. Kuma asked where she would go if she could be sent anywhere and Perona immediately talked about a creepy mansion in the middle of an abandoned island (I'm paraphrasing). I also doubt Kuma would've wanted Moria's crewmate to suffer knowing the past he's had and how sympathetic Kuma is painted to be
@@Suto_KoAI ass reply
I think that Robin was sent to the Revolutionaries not only because Kuma knew that his 'family' would protect her the most, but it was mentioned by a Revolutionary agent at Tequila Wolf that the Revolutionaries had a standing order to protect Robin if she was ever found.
Is also worth mentioning that the Ohara incident was a big trigger to the foundation of the revolutionary army, so is natural to them to protect Robin at all costs.
lol, That is an interesting point. It is certainly possible that Kuma was aware of the Revolutionaries' standing order to protect Robin, and that this played a role in his decision to send her to them.
Kuma was a Shichibukai, and he was aware of the Revolutionaries' activities. It is possible that he had some kind of contact with them, or that he had learned about their standing order to protect Robin through other means.
If Kuma did know about the Revolutionaries' standing order, it would explain why he sent Robin to them. He knew that they would be able to protect her from the World Government, and that they would also be able to help her to find her place in the world.
It is also possible that Kuma had a personal connection to the Revolutionaries. He may have known some of their members, or he may have sympathized with their cause.
Whatever the reason, it is clear that Kuma sent Robin to the Revolutionaries because he believed that it was the best place for her. He knew that they would be able to protect her and help her to find her place in the world.
This act of kindness shows that Kuma was not as heartless as many people believed. He was a complex and conflicted character who was capable of great compassion.
@@Suto_Ko bro i hate to spoil it to you, but Kuma is a revolutionary, so he DEFINITELY knew everything that was going on in the revolutionary army
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it's kinda sad that you skipped Nami, where as she was the person who mostly resembles Ginny. I think it was the hardest for Kuma when he had to seperate Nami from the rest of the crew. Nami was the first Strawhat that Kuma encountered, and at that time Nami was in a wedding dress escaping from a forced marriage(just like Ginny) it must've been hard for Kuma to see that. And the place that Kuma decided to send Nami in Sabaody was A sky island, a place that Bonney wanted to go to celebrate her 20th birthday(in the end Nami actually had to celebrate her 20th birthday there), it was also a place that is perfect for Nami as she is smart and witty(just like Ginny) to learn and expand her weather knowledge and navigation skills.
I like it. Nice connection. I already thought it was really strange how Ginny was insanely similar to Nami as a pro thief, foul mouthed , wire tapping and most of all as stingy with money.
Omg
Woah
Yooooo and if the theory that Thriller Bark was actually a piece of God Valley, it explains his decision to forgo the orders, hits so different!!
Yea the other parts but literally everyone looks like nami but with a different hair color 💀
Usopp: Would never willingly train. Kuma sent him somewhere that would not give him a choice in the matter. Get stronger or die were Usopp's options. It was also a place where all of Usopp's other needs would be met as well as weapons to use. He just had to learn to fight
Nami: Self-explanatory. He sent the Weather/Climatology savant to a place she could properly train and study.
Chopper: Sent him somewhere that he was uniquely equipped to bridge the gap between man and beast.
Franky: Sent the Engineer to a place with unique Blueprints. Simple.
Brook: Sent the scary skeleton pirate to a cult of devil worshipers for protection.
Robin: Self-explanatory, Sent her directly to Dragon, somebody more of a threat to to the WG than she was. Sent the Last Survivor of Ohara to the World's Most Wanted Man....and his army. She was as close to safe as safe can get.
Sanji: A Kick fighter who cooks, and One of Luffy's top two Fighters. Sent to a place where he would be able to access great recipes and learn from a people that fight with kicks. The unexpected bonus is that Sanji would spend all his time running and hiding, and building up his strength in the process.
Zoro (and Perona): Obviously, the Future World's Greatest Swordsman could stand a lesson from the Current one. I believe Kuma picked up that Mihawk was having a small mini internal issue concerning human bonds and felt it would be mutually beneficial, which is why both Perona and Zoro were launched straight to Mihawk's doorstep, leading both Zoro and Perona to get stronger during the Timeskip. Training for the youngsters. A lesson in people skills for Mihawk.
Luffy: Is the tricky one and I believe that the unknown predecessor of Hancock may have ties to the Revolutionary Army that has yet to come to light. Regardless, Kuma also told Rayleigh his plan and if push came to shove, dealing with an Angry Hancock until Rayleigh arrived was better than fighting Kizaru.
I feel chopper is more personal because Kuma found that island when he searched for a cure for Bonny illness
Kuma probably knew Hancock would have taken a liking to Luffy after learning he punched a Celestial Dragon.@@koldraiynedownskayle5744
ive seen another comment suggesting why kuma sent nami to a sky island, (im going to write from kumas pov) aside from controlling lightning, nami was so similar to ginny, first appearing while escaping a forced marriage, nami hit kuma close to home, so he sent her to a sky island to learn abt the weather & bc ginny wanted to go to a sky island on her 20th birthday (nami also celebrated her 20th birthday there)
how oda makes all these characters is beyond me, the connections after a decade is incredible, one piece is one of those shows where, rewatching it is another whole experience. Incredible, what a time to be a one piece fan.
truly, this story really is indeed worth the wait
That's why you gotta laugh at all the AOT fans that think OP isn't complex 😂
I started following One Piece lore videos as manga Gear 5 Luffy took over the internet, before this I've never watched One Piece except for an episode or two as a kid like 20 years ago. Now that I am actually watching it (I just finished Amazon Lilly) I love seeing how things play out knowing some of the "truths" of the world of One Piece.
(I know it's odd to spoil things for yourself before watching, but that's how I best enjoy content like movies or TV.)
There's a really cool amateur documentary detailing Oda's journey into becoming a world class manga writer.
In it it states that Oda's former boss kept pushing him and pushing him to make new characters and stories. Oda didn't understand at first and was extremely frustrated that he kept making new stories and characters for years and then being told to scrap them and make a new story, or make the characters or story have more depth.
Finally he realized that his boss was creating in him the ability to make many characters, to never forget about them, to truly base stories off characters, to understand that cool pictures and non character driven plots aren't enough.
Then BAM, one piece starts and Oda is READY. Not only with the story he's been thinking about since a child and with nice artistic skills, but with new skills of being able to create a TON of characters, while making them interesting, useful to the plot and unique.
That documentary finally helped me humanize Oda, I thought of him as a God and truly wondered how someone like him came to be. But now I can see the tiny steps, step by step, that it took to make him into the writer and artist that he eventually became.
I recommend every one piece fan watch it.
honestly i think thats cause this wasw suppose to be like 5 years long not 25. so like kuma was prolly suppose to be revealed like a year or 2 after he showed up not 10. yk. really whats amazing his how hes able to make so much of it.
I've always found the scene when Kuma offers Luffy's pain to Zoro as odd, especially the more we got to learn about Kuma earlier in the story. If he was an ally all along, why would he intentionally risk Zoro's life?
You've finally suggested a satisfying answer in that Kuma intended to take the pain himself, but was impressed at Zoro's resolve
Maybe cause he a cyborg and there parts keeping him alive
kuma only intended to take the pain himself if zoro failed to do it himself. And zoro would only fail to do it if he died in the process. So really kuma did risk zoro's life but he survived through sheer will
Indeed kuma became a psycho over the years
He was testing what kind of pirates they were
It was maybe that Kuma could not take the pain due to his lack of being fully organic.
He wanted to save Luffy, dragons son, and a potential Nikka. So he hoped Zoro would be able to do it and it payed off. He also knew if he didnt get someone to do it it would simply go right back to Luffy.
Brook’s ‘training’ makes so much sense too when you consider Kuma knew Saturn was a demon. Kuma sending Brook to a summoning circle might have inadvertently stopped an actual summoning before a real demon appeared because he knew how real and horrid these beings are.
Oh wow. This might feel like a huge reach now but that's truthfully a good point. They definitely could've summoned much worse and it's a great thing that Brook arrived before one of those Thriller Bark monsters, Saturn, or something even crazier got pulled in
@@nyshyn307 saturn is a gorosei
yea they might have accidentally ended up summoning a gorosei
i dont think the gorosei can be summoned against their will tho...
@@JustMe-vs1kj that might be why they didn’t summon anything to begin with and why it happened to be Brook
Zoro: Sent to Mihawk, so he could learn from the best.
Nami: Sent to Weatheria after witnessing her using meteorological phenomena in battle.
Sanji: He noticed that Sanji was a martial artist, and thought he could learn from the Okama Kenpo masters of Kamabakka Queendom. Unfortunately, he didn't account for Sanji's distaste for drag queens.
Chopper: Sent the little animal fella to a place where man and animal was at war with each other, hoping that he would bring peace.
Usopp: He thought he was a bit scrawny and weak, so he sent him to a place where every day would be a fight for survival in the hopes of toughening him up.
Robin: Finally having found her, he sends her to a place where he knows that she will meet the Revolutionaries, and trusts that they will keep her safe.
Franky: Sent to Vegapunk's home so he could learn from the greatest mind in the world.
Brook: Sent to a place full of occultist devil worshippers, where he would be the most likely to be accepted.
Luffy: Sent to the home of a former slave, hoping that he would liberate her heart from the shackles of the Celestial Dragons.
Kuma could have sent Robin to Baltigo (Revolutionary Army HQ) but he likely wanted to show Robin that the Revolutionary Army was trustworthy once they freed the slaves of Tequila Wolf but did not account for her to become a slave when arriving.
Agree with all except Luffy. Why would Kuma go tell Rayleigh what he did if he thought that Luffy would be fine in Amazon Lily on his own? He probably figured, just as Morj said, that Luffy would find a way to survive until Rayleigh got there to mitigate the situation. But he had to tell Rayleigh first, otherwise who knows if Rayleigh would've even visited. He could've just drank and gambled for 2 years, definitely up his alley.
Boy he did liberate and conquer Boa heart at the same time
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Hey, to be fair with Sanji, they were the ones chasing him and trying to put him in a dress. I'd run too LMAO.
Kuma went from top 50 to top 5 favorite characters during Egghead Island arc.
Zoro will forever be first!
It's amazing
He’s the most carefully thought out character in the entire series imo. Never mind top 5, he’s top 1 material.
He was already in my top 5, too many people slept on him
@@yonkotobirama3809no one slept on him. We just got more content from other characters.
I have zoro at 6 or 5
Eggland Island has done a lot of great things but for me getting more on Kuma(my favorite warlord) and the contextualization of his actions/ the Paw Paw fruit's pain ability has been a treat. It really does make his actions at Thriller Park and Saobody that much more palpable. There are still some more details that need to be fleshed out, like how he became known as the "Tryant" and a warlord, but Oda overall has been on fire with this arc/ backstory.
Well, wouldn't it make sense that the title of "Tyrant" was awarded to him by the world government. Much like the "worst generation", the titles do not represent the actual actions of the pirates, but rather the level of danger they pose to the world government. As such, once this title was awarded to Kuma, he choose to take on the role of warlord to protect his country and rule it like Dressrosa. Trafalgar did also take on the title of warlord during the timeskip, so he could safely traverse the grand line. Once a pirate has been labelled "Tyrant" or "Worst generation" they could expect a more aggressive response from the marines.
My pure head cannon is that Kuma sent Luffy specifically to an island that it would be impossible for him to join the paramount war. An island in the calm belt, where it's only inhabitants are women who hate men and it's ruler especially does so.
he sent Luffy to a warlord, so i think it was the exact opposite. being with a warlord would help get Luffy to the war and Kuma likely knew that
@@gwen6622 a warlord, someone who's allegiance lies with the world government, who hates men with a passion
He coulda had some kind of interaction with gloriosa that we have yet to see on god valley so maybe he was sending luffy to her? I’m wondering why he didn’t slap Raleigh there right after honestly. Made that man swim rude as hell lol.
@@gwen6622 if that is the case it was a massive gamble. But I can also see why he'd take that gamble.
That he know that silver Rayleigh was married to a former Kuja queen
I always thought Kuma was going to take the damage onto himself. When we saw Kuma guarding the boat; the seeds were starting to grow. Now we see his flashback and it’s a full oak tree strength of carry for this saint of a human
Kuma sending Luffy to Amazon Lily for me, has always been related to the fact that Luffy recently punched a Celestial Dragon. It's possible that Kuma knew the story behind Boa Hancock, as she was a warlord like him, and was once part of the revolutionaries. I think he knew Luffy could find support in Amazon Lily in the situation he was in that moment.
i hope this flashback gives us Kuma's POV when he found out _why_ Kizaru had been sent to Sabaody. hearing that Luffy had just smashed in the face of a Celestial Dragon without hesitation to protect other people had to be A Moment for him
The hand of liberation one of best lines in last year or so of one piece
I think the question Kuma asked Perona has a bit of meaning behind it, where would you go for a vacation? Kuma can travel to many locations all over the world, and has likely helped the Revolutionary Army by researching islands. Brook is going to be the least likely to have much thought as Kuma had only recently met him. For the others, he made sure to send them somewhere that they would be able to get stronger the the areas they excel at.
Looking back on this, knowing this was Kuma's last moments (who knows in the future) it is incredibly tragic and by far the saddest life out of any character in One Piece :(
The most intimidating figure became the kindest, oda is unmatched
One thing I love about morj vids is that you can tell he is an excellent essay writer and that he thoroughly edits his scripts. I love me a rambling tekking video, but morj just drops in and out in a short concise video and makes a banger argument without wasting any time.
One thing I believe is that Kuma sent Luffy to the amazons because he saw Luffy's exceptional ability to get people on his side, and he knew Luffy would be able to befriend the amazons like what actually happened.
It's actually a better pro for luffys than being said in the video
Kuma sending the crew to their temp homes for training was always ingenious because it gave them a way to not only get stronger but, it kept the government from going after them since at that point they were essentially on their own. When Kuma's flashback started it made it so there's a new way to look at it which is always what I love about this series. Though it could've been possible that for some of the other crew members, since Kuma and Vegapunk are good friends is it possible that he sent members like Nami, Chopper, and Usopp based on his suggestions or what he found in his research?
I think it's very possible kuma already identified Luffy as Nika and sent him to Amazon Lily, knowing that only a man who carries Nikas will could get the Amazons to spare him. This would connect with Mihawks statement that Luffy has the most dangerous power - to gain allies everywhere, so maybe that's part of being Joyboy/Nika
kuma literally teleported himself in my top 3 fav characters. man carried the title of "tyrant" while doing the work of god, endured the pain throughout his life and is still doing so. may he find happiness at the end
Great vid as always Morj. Two things I noticed: 1. Robin was sent to a space camp, not the revolutionaries directly. She was rescued by the revolutionaries while there. 2. Rayleigh didn’t know where Luffy was sent initially. He was told by Shakky based on her intuition.
Kuma likely knew the Revolutionaries were heading to Tequila Wolf, and there also may have been some significance to her being there that we still dont know. i feel like she's the crewmember whose 2 years we know the least about
We forget that Impel Down occurred after Amazon Lily. Meaning Kuma could have told Rayleigh but by the time he was otw to Amazon Lily, Luffy was already making a ruckus at Impel Down then Marine Ford.
Shakky telling where Luffy would be after Marine Ford was based on her intuition
12:47 I like how Kuma send Usopp to an island basically built for training. Tons of food and scaling difficulty
Kuma knew Luffy would survive in Amazon Lilly due to what Kuma recognized (from his own life) as unmatched rizz
Under rated comment hahaha
Watching this after reading 1099 gives things a whole new context. Knowing that Kuma put this much thought into where he sent the Strawhats mentioned in this video, we now have even further context about why the others were sent where they were. This only adds the conversation about Kuma's true intentions and reasonings behind how he helped the crew during and after Sabaody, plus in hindsight his character seems a lot more layered and nuanced in his actions; was he truly this foreboding about all that was to come regarding Luffy and the others? Interesting stuff!
On the reason why Luffy was sent to Lily, the fact people forget is that Luffy just punched a Celestial dragon causing him to be actively targeted by Kizaru (a marine admiral) and the rest of the marines. The fact that Amazon Lily is NOT only surrounded by the calm belt but also the fact that 1st, it's warlord territory 2nd, the strict rules forbidding men from entering makes it extremely difficult for the marines to pursue Luffy, making it the perfect place for Luffy to lay low.
Also, when you account the fact that Reighly was told where Luffy was headed, you start to understand that Kuma understood that the island itself was dangerous considering Luffy is a man. You start to understand his intention was for Reighly to go and assist Luffy as soon as he can. That just shows how thought out Kuma's plam was if nothing else.
More than likely he sent Luffy to amazon lilly because its hard to leave. That is a common theme among all the islands, if he sent them someplace where they could just leave immediately then odds of them getting any benefits would likely be ignored as the crew would head straight back.
I can't believe how tragic Kuma's backstory was 😭
Kuma: Man this Usopp kid is skinny, poor guy probably doesn’t get enough to eat. *Sends Usopp to the Bowin Archipelago*
From the moment it was revealed that Kuma was a slave, I knew there was no way he was going to give Luffy up to the gov. The way I figure, Kuma was there to take Luffy to Dragon but was stunned into changing his mind. After the crew telling him off post conflict with Moriah, AND 2 of them making it through his attack AND one of them immediately counterattacking, I think Kuma decided the kid was going to be alright... but if Kuma were to have gotten word of what Luffy did at Sabaody... that's probably what made him decide he was going to bet on him.
Everyone with a brain knew Kuma was an ally when they saw the destinations
Lmao, imagine finding out that your son is Joyboy in the Gear 5th bounty poster. That must've been so awkward for Dragon!
I think the reason why Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily is because Luffy’s mom is the missing Empress that died of love sickness.
Wow, Crocodile being a former Empress of Amazon Lily is *crazy*
@@sephikong8323 Please stop
@@sephikong8323 He's had a long and storied life.
@@sephikong8323please I’m going to be sick if I hear this theory again
@@arizonaranger2333same it’s the weirdest one
Also Nami to a sky island - Bonny had asked to go to a sky island as a kid to Kuma
I asked for this video!!!!! Omg thank you so much!
Fantastic video Morj, any type of analysis like this by you is always fantastic and my favorite One Piece content there is
What if turns out that Luffy’s mom was from Amazon Lily? Could that even be possible? That would add so much more context to him being sent there as well.
Another banger analysis by Morj!! It's almost supernatural the way Oda handles one piece. Just thinking about the amount of study he must make of HIS OWN STORY to make the world feel alive and connected plus the effort to keep things fresh and exciting gives me a headache lmao.
I think one possible connection for Amazon Lily is that Kuma being a former slave and a fellow warlord may have known about the Hancock sisters past. Pair that with Luffy being Nika, he may have made the gamble that Luffys personality and potential as well as his care for freedom wouldve earned him the trust of Hancock as a former slave who was freed and that Luffy would ultimately be safe there. Add on to Rayleighs connection to the island through his wife, it was a good choice for him.
Kuma might have known Luffy too pure for Boa's DF to work on him
I think Luffy was send to Amazon Lily because it is impossible for luffy to escape from in theory. Kuma just had to tell reyleigh where to find him and he was sure he would still be there. I don't think he expected Luffy to befriend the amazons and manage to leave the island.
Luffy has to be related to Amazon Lily in some way, someone on that island means something to him
So glad you made this, you have further enriched this already monumentally fulfilling series. One of my all time favourites!
Kuma possibly send Luffy to amazon lily because he knew hancock had been as slave of the celestial dragons in the past, and since Luffy had just hit one, Kuma knew that news like that would spread all across the world, so maybe he expected Boa to be an ally to the man who dared to atack her slavers.
How would he know about hancock past
9:29 At that point, no one knew Luffy was Dragon's son. Ivankov was surprised when Luffy told him in Impel Down, and he is closer to Dragon than Kuma is.
kuma literally said luffy was dragons son on thriller bark wayyyyyyy before ivankov learned about it.
@andrewwashburn6080 for some reason, that scene was wiped from my memory. I had to google it
Another reason that could explain why Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily is that Kuma might have known that Hancock was a slave like him and that she would gladly help Luffy once she learns that he hit a celestial dragon.
Morj you always have unique fire ass 🔥videos. Thank you for being a One Piece RUclipsr.
Putting "Nothing Happened" in that new context actually blew my mind
I bet Kuma didn’t expect boa falling in love with luffy lol
I'm really getting emotional from this video.. so beautifully said Morj. It was a last moment effort. And Kuma sending Sanji to his best friend, the way you said it was so heartwarming.
Ivankov was in jail at this time, the theory does not work
Here is the thing. Iva wasn't at Kamabakka kingdom when Sanji was sent there. If Luffy didn't start the prison break, Sanji would be training under random Okamas not Iva and Izuma. Iva was wait for Dragon to break them out and only agreed to escape because Luffy was Dragon's son.
@@arugono Yeah true, thanks for the reminder. So it's actually misleading to say that Kuma sent Sanji to his best friend.
*Kuma decidng where to send Brook:*
🤨..🤔...🤷♂️....🖐️
Mr Morj glad your back on the map. Your roots are what made you enjoyable to watch!
I genuinely think that the 3rd Amazon Empress is Luffys Mother. Its gloriosa , shaqi and we dont know the 3rd generation, and then Boa.
Kuma sent luffy to Amazon lily bc he shipped him with Hancock
I also always wondered the meaning behind him sending Perona to Mihawk, because I'm sure it wasn't by accident either (like yeah she said she wanted a dark gloomy island and all, but I'm sure there are a ton of other locations in the world that fit this description, so why to Mihawk specifically ?
I think that Kuma had a soft spot for her and wanted her to be safe regardless and he knew that Mihawk would probably keep her safe. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he saw a bit of Bonney in her and wanted for her to be safe
Could be true , perona looks like bonney/ginney
But how would he know that mihawk would Protect her and not kill her ?
@@membersonly807 I dunno, but he probably knew that Mihawk is not the type of guy that would just mindlessly attack her and would let her stay, and since nobody is foolish enough to attack Mihawk then well......she'd probably be fine
@@sephikong8323 he did "mindlessly" attack the Don krieg pirates and killed over 5000 of them just because of "boredome" he seems somewhat evil but somewhat also Empathic to perona and Zorro later on
@@membersonly807 If I recall correctly, Don Krieg was said to have attacked him first and Mihawk just retaliated then pursued him and his fleet to send a message to those who try to attack him.
Mihawk does not look like the type of guy that initiates an attack, but he also won't forgive people who go after him either
@@sephikong8323 it Was clearly stated that the Krieg pirates did NOT attack him , jeff (sanjis cook dad) jokingly said that they most likley disturbed his nap , mihawk is a menace
Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily bc it's where his mom is from. Dragon probably told him that he arrived on the island, earn the respect of their empress and married her. This was of course Crocodile. He thought he could manage to convince them to teach him haki, but little he thought he would put the same feat as his father. I will die on this hill.
Kuma is suddenly my favorite character
Entire time from start to finish of Saboady was amazing how he was quietly observing them and formulated plans for their future.
I enjoyed the video, but I think you focused on the easy ones and it's the others that we should theorize more on. If we treat Kuma as the main character serving his own goals rather than the Strawhats, what purpose for him would Chopper, Nami, Usopp and Brook's destinations? Do any of these islands have ties with Kuma's past? Is weatheria the sky island he planned to take Bonnie to? Do the wizards have ties to the revolutionaries? Did the tribes people on Chopper's island? Did the revolutionaries use the Boin Archipelago as a base? What was Brook's choice for?? That's the big one I can't figure out. Was there something he missed? Was that the last place he rescued with the Revolutionaries? Why did none get sent to the Sorbet Kingdom? I hope that we get some hints at these in the upcoming chapters. Thanks for the fun video!
I mean it seems pretty clear Kuma realized the guy who punched a celestial dragon would be able to win over the Empress who used to be a slave to them. I’m sure his similarities to dragon were part of his faith in him too but still. Weird you didn’t mention that.
I cannot imagine how happy Kuma would be if he just knew how the Straw hats turned out. I'd actually cry my eyes out, if we cannot see an interaction between them. 😭😭😭😭
kuma sent luffy on amazon lili cause as you said kuma believed luffy will gain respect from the empress "like father like son" and I believe its not just respect but love too that both father and some gained on amazon lili. Luffy's mom should be the previous empress which kuma knew about so he sent luffy to his mothers homeland.
We dont know Kuma whole stort his flashbacks are still going
I think another contributing factor to Kuma thinking that Luffy could ally with Boa Hancock is his witnessing of Luffy punching that World Noble. He might have known, either from his own time as a slave or his time as Shichibukai, that Boa and her sisters were former slaves of Mary Geoise.
damn… what an insightful and powerful video. i am deeply impressed and really appreciative that i was able to watch this. thank you.
Love how this flashback recontextualizes scenes that were already brilliant (Nothing happened, Sabaody) and elevates them even further
Didn't even realize Kuma was planning on taking Luffy pain himself
Subscribed after this video. This was amazing.
That is a hell of a thumbnail! Wow!
To add to Robin being sent to the revolutionaries, the entire reason they even exist in their current form is because of the Ohara incident, so his allies were probably really happy to see a survivor of it as well.
I think Kuma's assumption was based on something. He knows who Luffy's Mom was.
No, not Gloriosa or anyone. But the Unnamed Queen that was before Hancock and that died of Love Disease.
What killed her was not when Dragon left, but what killed was having to part ways with Luffy since Garp took him to Fushia Village for protection.
Kuma realized that if Dragon was able to make the Queen of Amazon Lily fall for him, then Luffy should be able to also sway the Heart of Boa Hancock.
And Kuma is a man that knows Love, he had Ginny after all. He knows everyone needs love and Hancock was in need of it.
These are my favorite videos, you have the best breakdowns of characters an motives
I thought the same thing for Zoro and Sanji when I watched it, but never thought about Franky, Robin, and Luffy's! Great breakdown/perspective!
My favourite character ever since his introduction in thriller bark, and im proud of myself for seeing something deeper in the character back then
Kuma crafted the next generation one piece with his hands 🖐️ 🤚
One thing I feel was missed here was Brook and his destination. Given Brook watched the whole scene with Zoro and Kuma play out, that hes somehow undead, and he cares enough to defend Zoro despite being weaker than him, it’s clear Kuma would have a great deal of respect for our skeletal musician.
All that being the case, it cant be a coincidence that he got sent to the satanist island. Kuma's meeting with Saturn on God Valley means he already knows about the Gorosei's devilish capabilities--maybe in his time as a revolutionary and a pastor he learned that the soul and the Gorosei's magic are connected?
If Brook ends up clutching up against Saturn, then just pick up that phone for me, alright?
Love this look back. I had a different thought for the use of his power. Similar to Bonnie picking a future variant of the person she ages, Kuma can will a destined location for the person he pushes. The hand of liberation sends you to the best location for you, and/or Kuma can pick the location. This makes sense for his early use of the fruit as it should be based on your knowledge of the world's geography.
Kuma must've done his research, he knew EXACTLY where to send them to train them up.
Kuma sent Luffy to Amazon Lily because... Luffy's mother was an Amazon. Which is why she couldn't keep him. She was the Empress before Boa and she died because she longed to be with Luffy.
Kuma went from a Michael myers unstoppable figure to a jesus-like sacrificial lamb and savior
i like kuma the fact he dont care what the world thinks about him but is the moste goodwilling person to live
fire vid mr. morg 🔥
This video actually gave me chills
THIS IS SO BEAUTIFULLY MADE
Kuma must have been like:
"I'm so sorry Sanji but you need to go to that island."
Love you Morj!
I think amazon Lilly is actually luffy’s real home meaning his birth place and that’s why he sent luffy there. It’s a much bigger reason than just training. They was sent to places where they could belong and grew strong while being well protected at the same time.
Kuma's appearance and Brook's backstory at the end of thriller bark got me to watch the next 700+ episodes to catch up in less than 2 months, funny because Moria was such a dumb villain to me that I also quit because of the same arc.
There's a theory that Luffy's mother was the previous empress of amazon lily (one before hancock). It could be one of the reasons kuma sent Luffy to amazon lily
It is still pretty neat that we're shown Kuma has visited the island he sent chopper to before
Hercules from bowin island might be an ex revolutionary too
Kuma's story is so tragic. The tone of the whole series simply changes to something really melancholic and hopeless in the latest manga chapters
I just love how elegantly this many dangling threads are coming together during the Egghead arc
The short part at 10:35 that, I'm assuming, is edited in later sounds like an AI with Morjs voice
Kuma is now by far the most tragic character.
i don't think that Kuma sent Sanji to Kamabakka kingdom for him to train with Ivankov. Ivankov was in impel down when Sanji arrived there, Iva didn't have any intention on leaving the prison until he meet Luffy, and I don't think that Kuma knew that Luffy would go to Impel down, impress Iva enough to make him leave and finally arrive to Kamabakka to train Sanji.
Kuma probably just sent chopper to the island with the widest medical knowledge, after all, he knew every single island with medical knowledge.