Narcissist's, Borderline's Rage Not Same (Grandiosity vs. Acting Out)

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @Pink_143_6
    @Pink_143_6 Месяц назад +35

    Would enjoy if you covered narcassists who are content creators and how they try to control their audience. I am always baffled by the grandiosity of particular content creators who act out of they don’t get their way and blame others for example their channel content getting less views. Thank you! Youre the best!

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  Месяц назад +7

      Search the channel for "guru" and "expert".

  • @Joe-Fowler
    @Joe-Fowler Месяц назад +11

    Talk about borderline mothers and their children

  • @maryvera123
    @maryvera123 Месяц назад +5

    I like how you get right to the core of WHY people with BPD and NPD behave the way they do. 💯

  • @apubanerjee5496
    @apubanerjee5496 Месяц назад +5

    PROF SAM , A Bulls eye hit content .
    👍.
    The rage of narcissist & psychopath ,
    some way or the other way ,
    merges to one another ,
    by a fine thread line ,
    there by producing ,
    a synergy effect
    of the two ,
    within each of them ,
    without any discrimination ,
    amidst them .
    🌟 .

    • @apubanerjee5496
      @apubanerjee5496 Месяц назад

      @@SherriFlemming
      When they gets rejected at the
      beginning itself . ✔✔✔
      ( as in my case the narcissist got rejected by me , within 6 months , from the starting of my initial involvement , ie , from day one , )
      👇
      thier life's tie rod ↔️ gets cut off forever .
      👇
      Never ever they did manage to recover from
      it , since their early teen hood to now at thier
      old age ie 52+ yrs .✔✔✔
      MADAM SHERRY ,
      This is what i have seen & observed
      till today , in a specific narcissist .
      By this time 😃 , i also reached from my
      the then a college going boy ,
      to now me an old man of my 62+ yrs of age .
      It is , ↔️ what it is .
      🌟 .

    • @apubanerjee5496
      @apubanerjee5496 Месяц назад

      @@SherriFlemming
      Madam SHERRI ,
      When they gets rejected at the beginning
      say within 6 months ( as in my case ) , from
      day one , by me ,
      👇
      their tie rod gets cut off forever .
      They never recovers even one inch
      further from it ,
      be it to highway , to bylanes , or even to
      their own ways .
      That's what i observed atleast in a specific
      narcissist / psychopath
      ( the two in one ) ,
      over last 4+ decades .
      A reality , ↔️ as it is .
      🌟 .

  • @lisatotzauer8245
    @lisatotzauer8245 Месяц назад +8

    I have tendencies of both (around every "regular" contact I am more narcissistic, around my favorite person more Borderline = probably Covert Borderline) and I can confirm that distinction from my point of view 👍👍👍

  • @Wordywizard1121
    @Wordywizard1121 Месяц назад +4

    I feel like a shame egg sometimes, peeking through the cracks in embarrassing ways rather than facing the light. Unintentionally malicious to the gift of Self and making it my enemy as I keep up appearances. I pretend that this is all happening internally but I realize that everything eventually makes its way into the makeup of my mask and the quality of my actions. Therapy is helping but I'm subconsciously undermining progress so I can avoid feeling 'unfixable'. This video helps me face my vunerabilities and shortcomings I must admit, I don't want to be a virus and I don't have to be if I nurture awareness and personal reflection. Thanks again professor, it's not an easy subject to cover but you do an excellent job.

  • @ginkgo2021
    @ginkgo2021 Месяц назад +8

    If someone is a covert narcissist, how is it that they can also be a successful business person? Why do they not collapse during the periodic pressures of being “the boss” in a workplace setting?

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  Месяц назад +16

      Coverts are in a PERMANENT state of collapse. They are USED to it and function well (high-functioning) WITH it.

  • @jesskuhmess
    @jesskuhmess Месяц назад +2

    Maybe a suggestion for borderline mothers who are self aware and fighting to self govern not traumatize their children.
    I've come so far but there are parts of me that i will never be able to control a strong exaggerated emotional response too.

  • @a.alliswell4987
    @a.alliswell4987 Месяц назад +2

    Amazing ... Thank You !!

  • @JoeVellaMalta
    @JoeVellaMalta Месяц назад +3

    Interesting. Short and sweet

  • @mykhailoserhiichuk1300
    @mykhailoserhiichuk1300 28 дней назад

    Great video with lots of basic ideas!

  • @DilfuzaKHaydarova-e1p
    @DilfuzaKHaydarova-e1p Месяц назад

    Thank you so much Dear Sam❤

  • @jtowers599
    @jtowers599 Месяц назад +5

    Appreciate your videos Dr vaknin.Does medication such as SSRIs have any affect on the narcissists & borderlines rage? Do you have any videos on medication for cluster b personality Disorders?

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  Месяц назад +3

      Search the therapies playlist.

  • @andrewmarshall1460
    @andrewmarshall1460 Месяц назад +5

    Any discernible differences in the aftermath, when rage is talked about? E.g. Pretend like it didn't happen, blame shifting vs shame based apologies etc.

    • @unamass75
      @unamass75 Месяц назад +5

      Bpd will forget and then feel shame and say sorry NPD will twist the story and become a victim

    • @agentin00katz14
      @agentin00katz14 Месяц назад

      ​@@unamass75 When I feel ashamed but at the same feel like a victim, also realizing I act out when confronted with why I feel ashamed (cluttering behaviour for example) and then in 'defensive acting out rage' I tell the confronting person what I did right and she/he did wrong - is this twisting the story?
      I feel often there is overlapping in many people's raging into acting out (and the other way around), or it's just simply me, I don't know.
      I just think that 'raging because the gradiosity is attacked - the grandiosity that is based on empty core and shame (of the 'true' or 'former' = child person) - and needs to be rebuilt, is in my eyes the same as 'acting out' to regain control of yourself, while fearing abandonement.
      Or maybe a borderline can turn into a narcissist over years - even decades - of 'failed' relationships (including friendships and relationships with family members), meaning leaning towards grandiosity as it is the only left option to survive mentally after rejections over rejections/decisions of leaving a loved person out of feeling to overwhelmed with being exposed over and over again with the shame/shadow sides of oneself and the partner.
      I don't know how else to describe it.

  • @AlejandraSarmiento-o1h
    @AlejandraSarmiento-o1h Месяц назад +2

    @samvaknin what if the narcisist win the trial against him (violence charges). What to expect? Will he try to hurt me again?

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  Месяц назад +3

      Search the channel for "revenge".

  • @rebeccajean9806
    @rebeccajean9806 Месяц назад +2

    Professor Vaknin,
    Is it a possibility that the narcissist behavior changes,like devalue , degrade are dependent on his observations of his wife’s mood.

  • @user-rm4ye7fp5d
    @user-rm4ye7fp5d Месяц назад +3

    i believe i have a vulnurable narcissistic older brother and a younger sister with bpd. can narcissist abuse develop bpd in a sibling? 🤔

    • @lilithh23
      @lilithh23 Месяц назад

      @@user-rm4ye7fp5d yes, if your parents also narcissistic

    • @user-rm4ye7fp5d
      @user-rm4ye7fp5d Месяц назад +1

      i got a notification of a reply, but don't see it now 🤔

  • @sneak9407
    @sneak9407 Месяц назад +2

    Hence:
    You will see crimes like: one person trying to get the other person back from complete abandonment. Going over to the person, having sexual intercourse, taking pictures, and at the end removing the partner because they failed to halt the further seperation. Doctors will even diagnose such people with pyschopathy, instead of what they actually are: *BPD*
    Their last attempt to save the complete and absolute abandonment failed
    Hence the temporary state of a psychopath due to the rage and anger.
    Note: colmplete abandonment is not "let's have a break". It is when on the break and it seems like there is no coming back. No coming back in the sense that the other party is about to move on to another partner. This is when the BPD does the last ditch effort of securing a date to "hookup" but the intention at the end of the day is you abandon engaging any further with the new partner. If this fails, the abandoning party must feel physical pain... which usually gets out of hand and leads to the demise of the partner.
    The "let's have a break" stage only induces psychopathy to the levels of: "i will off myself, if you leave me" and instense promiscuity. Hence why it never gets better after the "break phase"

  • @lilithh23
    @lilithh23 Месяц назад +4

    borderline rage more dangerous?

    • @lilithh23
      @lilithh23 Месяц назад

      @whatap_prof_Sam_vak_fan how do I contact you?

  • @johnnuaxon3
    @johnnuaxon3 Месяц назад +1

    Is Leo Gura a narcissist ?