@@matyasd007 🤣 I don’t refer to the fact that it moves (to the right and the left) in general. That’s of course intended. I mean the movement upwards und downwards
The compass movement and not 100% alignment to the numerals are exactly like on the previous model and are not great, but also not an issue in practice. Usually gets unnoticed in everyday use. Found green not really universal in strap color choice and would go for the white version if I would go that route again...one of the most beautiful Seiko Sports watch cases imho and a perfect size...nominal size is the same as my 214270 Explorer but it feels way smaller on wrist, which is a good thing for me
'Alpinish'. Got it in one :) That internal bezel play is BAD. I've got a 1977 Pogue with an internal moving bezel that can be rotated without play and with just the right amount of resistance, so that it doesn't move while you wear it. What went wrong?
The compass “issue” is well within the usefulness of this feature. Analog watches are not exactly surveyor grade compasses but will prevent you from getting turned around in the field. The low contrast between the green face and the gold numbers make it more of an urban watch than an expedition watch, you need to see it at a glance, more contrast preferred. The strap it came with suggests Seiko understood that, your more rustic strap attempts to make it more rustic. I don’t see it that way. Just my thoughts…
Thank you very much for your comment and subscribing! Somehow my watch-buying compass is still not calibrated as I just ordered the SPB199J. Yeah, it’s the watch Virus😅
The "play" in the compass ring is probably a defect in his (this) individual watch. I have one and have seen several others and they have no such problem.
My SBDC093 (champagne/gilt) has the same sloppy compass ring issue. Crystal has AR coating this time too...much hated (by most ) cyclops works great and was used in the past on several Alpinist models. All-in-all one tough, classy piece, that can also make for a great daily wearer. Enjoyed the vid!
I like your video but I would've like to see what the watch ⌚️ looked like in the 🌞 sunlight. I like the old model that had more sunburst reflection. Someone is buying this model for me and I hope it has enough green color to it
I’m looking at buying this watch but I’m not sure whether to go for this model or the older model. I do like the Prospex logo the cyclops and the clasp on this one. The newer one is around £120 more than what I might pay for an older model and there’s questionable watches on eBay plus with a new one you get a guarantee and you can guarantee it’s a genuine watch.
You pretty much summed up all arguments that also bothered me before finally buying this one. In the end it was the power reserve of 70hours and the fact that I wasn’t willing to pay the relatively high prices for the old model and preferred to get a new and definitely genuine one.
watchyouwant? I think I’ll buy the newer version just for that piece of mind and just tell myself I missed the boat on the SARB017. I’ll probably wear it on the supplied strap and maybe a NATO strap.
James C you might want to wait a little longer. Seiko are releasing the new alpinist soon. This one is alpinist inspired. Search for the seiko 2020 catalog
@mandeep Virdee: This is the “new Alpinist”. There is no Alpinist on the dial etc. but it’s the successor of the SARB017 NO DOUBT about it! The new models in the Catalogue are also “Alpinist inspired” if you will.
This is a 4 year old video, but I have to ask, who manufactures the strap that you put on this watch? I just purchased one of these and don't like the dress strap it comes with. I'd also like to swap it out with a more casual, but quality leather strap.
Danke! Das Band gibt es bei Amazon leider nicht mehr. Sucht man nach „vintage 20mm“ findet man aber ähnliche. / Unfortunately the strap isn’t available on Amazon anymore. If you search for „20mm vintage“ you’ll find similar straps.
Does any one know if there is a difference between Seiko SBDC093 and Seiko SPB123J1 Why does Seiko use different model numbers for the same watch since it seams both are made in Japan
SPB indicates that it is the global model number, SBDC033 that it is the Japanese one. Apart from that there’s no difference (unlike with the “K models” that are manufactured outside of Japan.
Don’t think so. Because it probably didn’t trigger many buying decision for more expensive Seikos. But I think that Seiko unfortunately realized, that it could raise its prices
A remark from a professional geographer: there is NO compass by any definition. It is only a bezel with the markers as the assistance of the "old scoout trick" ;) (Seiko is misleading in case that claiming there is a compass). Othwise a nice watch... I have it just because... I am an alpinist in real :)
@@beesofst.ambrose9306 It fluctuates. It’s been down to 500 and the other day it’s 615 or so. Just wait and the price will go down again. Sometimes you can also propose a price to the dealer.
Het ontwerp is prachtig. Maar de speling in de kompasring is slordig. Ook de wijzers zijn niet glad afgewerkt. De cijfers zijn mooi afgewerkt maar kunnen mooier. De afwerking van een oude Seiko 5 van 30 jaar geleden was mooier. 740 Euro heb ik betaald. Als ik dit eerder had geweten, had ik het horloge niet gekocht. Bij de aankoop van mijn volgende horloge neem ik mijn loupe mee.
Sarb017 is a better option. This is not even close to the older model, sarb017 is classier and just looks and feels great. This watch is not worth the price.
Unacceptable chapter ring alignment issues on a $775 watch from Seiko and doesn’t convey anything to the so called Japanese precision. I have this btw and yes they don’t align
@Star_Sn1per Regarding the Prospex logo, if I have to choose I prefer the little "X" over the SARB017's "DIASHOCK 23 JEWELS" printed in white capitals and an ugly typeface across the dial. Apparently one can't have everything - which for me would be nothing (neither "X" nor "DIASHOCK..."), and the "20 Bar" could also have stayed on the case back, while the remaining nice "Automatic" script could've been printed in a more suitable colour. Signed crown? Personally I don't care either way, it was just an "S" on the SARB017. I don't mind signed crowns as such when I think it adds to the design, in this case I don't mind the absence of yet another logo. Cyclops? It's an actually useful feature considering the otherwise small date window, but still a matter of taste, not right or wrong. Red Alpinists also had cyclopses. Fortunately it's just a feature of the crystal, which can be replaced with something else.
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The issue with the compass is presented at 06:09.
Unacceptable on a $775 watch from Seiko and doesn’t convey anything to the so called Japanese precision. I have this btw and yes they don’t align
That's not an issue. That's a feature.
@@matyasd007 🤣 I don’t refer to the fact that it moves (to the right and the left) in general. That’s of course intended. I mean the movement upwards und downwards
mine has the exact same issue too
I've been wanting one of these for years and finally ordered one tonight. I'm so excited, I can't wait to get it in my hands finally
Congratulations 🎊!
One of the most real reviews on RUclips thanks
Thanks man!
I have the black dial version and I absolutely love it but I agree the compass issue is annoying
The compass movement and not 100% alignment to the numerals are exactly like on the previous model and are not great, but also not an issue in practice. Usually gets unnoticed in everyday use. Found green not really universal in strap color choice and would go for the white version if I would go that route again...one of the most beautiful Seiko Sports watch cases imho and a perfect size...nominal size is the same as my 214270 Explorer but it feels way smaller on wrist, which is a good thing for me
Thank you for sharing your experiences 👍🏻
Really like the green dial and grey band
Really like the strap that comes with the watch.
sloppy compass ring issue isn't just on these watches, many watches have the same issue.. it must be extremely hard to get right.
Nice review. I do agree with the strap replacement part.
You nailed the strap.
It was smaller than I expected, but really beautiful watch
They really need to dump the prospects logo and have alpinist on there in the same style as the word Automatic.
'Alpinish'. Got it in one :)
That internal bezel play is BAD.
I've got a 1977 Pogue with an internal moving bezel that can be rotated without play and with just the right amount of resistance, so that it doesn't move while you wear it. What went wrong?
mua mot chiec mau xah
@Ginja Ninjaaa feel better now?
Brands with sub brands feels cheap.
@@freddyfox5002 I’m not following, so a Rolex shouldn’t have Submariner or sea dweller on the front because it looks cheap?
Idk about a compass but when i cook steak i turn n to when i need to flip my meat it wont beep at you but its a good timer reminder analog
Thank you, well done. I enjoyed this video, loved the angles, and valued your input and opinions. Valuable content
Thank you very much!
The compass “issue” is well within the usefulness of this feature. Analog watches are not exactly surveyor grade compasses but will prevent you from getting turned around in the field. The low contrast between the green face and the gold numbers make it more of an urban watch than an expedition watch, you need to see it at a glance, more contrast preferred. The strap it came with suggests Seiko understood that, your more rustic strap attempts to make it more rustic. I don’t see it that way. Just my thoughts…
Very good points! Thanks for your comment
What is that type of strap called? I cant find it I love it
Very good review. You deserve more subs, so I subscribed :) Nice touch with the moving compass, puts a question mark on buying these
Thank you very much for your comment and subscribing! Somehow my watch-buying compass is still not calibrated as I just ordered the SPB199J. Yeah, it’s the watch Virus😅
@@watchyouwant1617 Lol, congrats on that one as well :)
@@oganovdavid Thanks!
The "play" in the compass ring is probably a defect in his (this) individual watch. I have one and have seen several others and they have no such problem.
No, it’s genuine Seiko (had two more of them) and actually not a big deal.
My SBDC093 (champagne/gilt) has the same sloppy compass ring issue. Crystal has AR coating this time too...much hated (by most ) cyclops works great and was used in the past on several Alpinist models. All-in-all one tough, classy piece, that can also make for a great daily wearer. Enjoyed the vid!
Thank you very much! I appreciate it!
Not sure why people hate the cyclops. It makes the date more legible.
What strap do you have there please?
The stock strap looks like the one that came with my SARX047.
my one i had lined up spot on
Great review! What is the strap you have added to it?
Thank you very much for your feedback! Strap is from Amazon. Bought it back in 2019. Brand is called „Sulla“.
Is there bit of wiggle aswel in 2nd crown? How smooth or stiff is the compass crown?
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Hello, whre can i buy the green strap?
I like your video but I would've like to see what the watch ⌚️ looked like in the 🌞 sunlight. I like the old model that had more sunburst reflection. Someone is buying this model for me and I hope it has enough green color to it
I’m looking at buying this watch but I’m not sure whether to go for this model or the older model. I do like the Prospex logo the cyclops and the clasp on this one.
The newer one is around £120 more than what I might pay for an older model and there’s questionable watches on eBay plus with a new one you get a guarantee and you can guarantee it’s a genuine watch.
You pretty much summed up all arguments that also bothered me before finally buying this one. In the end it was the power reserve of 70hours and the fact that I wasn’t willing to pay the relatively high prices for the old model and preferred to get a new and definitely genuine one.
watchyouwant? I think I’ll buy the newer version just for that piece of mind and just tell myself I missed the boat on the SARB017. I’ll probably wear it on the supplied strap and maybe a NATO strap.
You probably won’t be disappointed. I really love this little and versatile watch.
James C you might want to wait a little longer. Seiko are releasing the new alpinist soon. This one is alpinist inspired. Search for the seiko 2020 catalog
@mandeep Virdee: This is the “new Alpinist”. There is no Alpinist on the dial etc. but it’s the successor of the SARB017 NO DOUBT about it! The new models in the Catalogue are also “Alpinist inspired” if you will.
This is a 4 year old video, but I have to ask, who manufactures the strap that you put on this watch? I just purchased one of these and don't like the dress strap it comes with. I'd also like to swap it out with a more casual, but quality leather strap.
@@Helvetica_Scenario Bought it 2019 from Amazon Germany:
Sulla 20mm men's leather vintage watch strap Pilot Style BS white seam brown
Nice review. I like the brown strap. Can you please send me link (I am from Germany)?
Danke! Das Band gibt es bei Amazon leider nicht mehr. Sucht man nach „vintage 20mm“ findet man aber ähnliche. / Unfortunately the strap isn’t available on Amazon anymore. If you search for „20mm vintage“ you’ll find similar straps.
great strap where did you get it from?
Amazon. Been a while.
Since it sits between dress and field, it should be very informative if you can present
wrist shorts outdoor too.
You’re absolutely right! Unfortunately I’ve already sold it
Where do you find those awesome straps?
The brown one is from Amazon and the green one from uhrenarmband-versand.de
Thank you!
Hello,
Do you have some complain about accuracy of this xatch ?
Hey! Already sold it but I didn’t have any issues. It ran like 5 seconds fast per day which is just fine for me.
@@watchyouwant1617 Thanks. I'm looking to this watch.
Great review!
Thank you!
Does any one know if there is a difference between Seiko SBDC093 and Seiko SPB123J1 Why does Seiko use different model numbers for the same watch since it seams both are made in Japan
SPB indicates that it is the global model number, SBDC033 that it is the Japanese one. Apart from that there’s no difference (unlike with the “K models” that are manufactured outside of Japan.
Was the 017 just a loss leader?
Don’t think so. Because it probably didn’t trigger many buying decision for more expensive Seikos. But I think that Seiko unfortunately realized, that it could raise its prices
Yeah the compass calibrations are not that important. You are using it against the sun so accuracy is iffy at best. But I would like less play in it.
A remark from a professional geographer: there is NO compass by any definition. It is only a bezel with the markers as the assistance of the "old scoout trick" ;) (Seiko is misleading in case that claiming there is a compass). Othwise a nice watch... I have it just because... I am an alpinist in real :)
Thank you very much for the clarification!
Where are you purchasing for $600? This watch is pulling at my heart strings!
Uhrenlounge.de Sometimes you can get them even for around 510 EUR
@@watchyouwant1617 I checked that site and its price is 719 euro... Any clues to get closer to 510?
@@beesofst.ambrose9306 It fluctuates. It’s been down to 500 and the other day it’s 615 or so. Just wait and the price will go down again. Sometimes you can also propose a price to the dealer.
I got mine for around 600 Euros :) (India)
ស្អាតណាស់ Sir 🤗🤗
Where can I order this strap from?
From Amazon. It’s called “Sulla”
@@watchyouwant1617 is it 20 mm or 22 mm?
20mm
@@watchyouwant1617 thanks 😊
Most people will never use the compass. And a lot of watch owners probably don’t know how to use one.
Its not a compass. If you know what to do. You can use a digital watch.
my compass isn't moving. You should get it checked.
I had three Alpinists, all of them with slightly moving bezels. Not a big issues but sold them anyhow. Thank your for your comment!
Het ontwerp is prachtig. Maar de speling in de kompasring is slordig. Ook de wijzers zijn niet glad afgewerkt. De cijfers zijn mooi afgewerkt maar kunnen mooier. De afwerking van een oude Seiko 5 van 30 jaar geleden was mooier. 740 Euro heb ik betaald. Als ik dit eerder had geweten, had ik het horloge niet gekocht. Bij de aankoop van mijn volgende horloge neem ik mijn loupe mee.
The compass seems useless function
The decline has already begun.
Seiko boxes are a joke. Not funny, I must add. At this price point there should have given way more than this bog standard shit.
Sarb017 is a better option. This is not even close to the older model, sarb017 is classier and just looks and feels great. This watch is not worth the price.
Why are people sending $700-$800 for this?!!!
Also *iso diver...
Absolutely right👍🏻
Unacceptable chapter ring alignment issues on a $775 watch from Seiko and doesn’t convey anything to the so called Japanese precision. I have this btw and yes they don’t align
Thanks for the feedback
Sarb017 is so much nicer than this model
Why exactly? I like the black date window of the sarb017
@@watchyouwant1617 Signed crown, no stupid cyclops , no stupid prospex logo and no stupid see thru case back that reveals the ugly 6r35 movement 😅
@@Star_Sn1per Good points!
@Star_Sn1per Regarding the Prospex logo, if I have to choose I prefer the little "X" over the SARB017's "DIASHOCK 23 JEWELS" printed in white capitals and an ugly typeface across the dial. Apparently one can't have everything - which for me would be nothing (neither "X" nor "DIASHOCK..."), and the "20 Bar" could also have stayed on the case back, while the remaining nice "Automatic" script could've been printed in a more suitable colour.
Signed crown? Personally I don't care either way, it was just an "S" on the SARB017. I don't mind signed crowns as such when I think it adds to the design, in this case I don't mind the absence of yet another logo.
Cyclops? It's an actually useful feature considering the otherwise small date window, but still a matter of taste, not right or wrong. Red Alpinists also had cyclopses. Fortunately it's just a feature of the crystal, which can be replaced with something else.