My ELECTRIC CAR is EVen more WORTHLESS & I CAN'T GET INSURED now the BAN on Petrol & Diesel is 2035!
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- I've owned an Electric Car now for 2 years and over that period I have lost an incredible amount of money and owning an EV has left me in negative equity. Since Rishi Sunak announced that the ban on pure-petrol and diesel cars is being pushed back to 2035, which he says is “pragmatic, proportionate and realistic”, easing the burden on motorists during the cost of living crisis and aligning the UK with targets in other countries. It has now devalued the price of Electric Cars significantly and also made insurance premiums increase beyond belief, some insurance companies are even refusing to insure Electric Cars as they have been prone to catch fire and are significantly more expensive to repair. Join me on my journey and I'll tell you how much my Electric Car has devalued and also how much my Insurance is now quoting me.
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A bloke up at my golf club who has had a Tesla 3 for two years says this:
‘It’s like owning a diesel with a tiny five litre fuel tank which you have to fill up with a tea spoon - and which occasionally tries to kill you.’
Smart meters, electric cars? Sorry you can’t charge your car today. You’ve used your electricity ration for the week.
“And don’t think you can get charged at your mate’s house. We know what you’re up to. When you plug in, we know what vehicle this is. Assuming we don’t know it anyway from the cameras plastered everywhere. If we notice your car continues to move around beyond the range last notified to us via Porsche Glass, your vehicle will warn you to stop. If you ignore multiple warnings, Glass will automatically shut your car down remotely”.
That’s probably the future. If you own a Lear jet you’re all good, environmentally friendly.
😂 lol
@@seebarry4068 or own several mansions in Maui
Or you can only charge if you car-pool, recycle, vote a certain way AND stop trash talking EVs on YT
I’m adamant I will stick to diesel in my car and van for as long as I possibly can.
So bloody reliable and simple to use.
The environment issues are just one big con.
Hello Adam Ant.
Just bought a Duster that can’t be hacked, tracked, and will do over a thousand km on a tankful.
Nitrous oxides a problem,we should have been using Nichola Teslars technologies 120 years ago but the Rothchilds oil and banking cabal have to much control over government's
@craiglatham very droll, good though.
yes, indeed, in the UK we used to put heating fuel in ours it was cheaper to run and less polluting, how about that?, it's a higher grade fuel than deisel (especailly red farm deisel) and I never had a car lorry or generator blow up ???
An American politician on tour with an ev had an assistant go ahead in a gas vehicle and block up a station😱 until the ev could get there. An ev owner waiting to charge called the cops. 🤣
She is the idiot Sec of Energy in DC. No citizens voted her in. She wants usa military to go all electric as well. She spoke of it in a Senate Committee meeting. What a joke! Next it will be airplanes.
Yeah, well, that is typical f'd up behavior, for a Democratic Party cabinet member, and liberal. I cant tell you how much I hate them, and the whole current administration! Do you know how frustrating it is, to vote for the MUCH BETTER candidate, in 2020, only to watch these corrupt, dishonest, INCOMPETENTS slip into the White House, instead? No wonder a quarter of a million patriots, waving American flags--and mighty angry--showed up to protest, at the Capitol, in DC. I finally saw the video, it was not a dinky few hundred, rioting, like the media said (or like the liberals get), but people as far as the eye could see, a signicant part of the country, all very upset. Every liberal demonstration, or riot, I see, has only a few hundred; how does that compare, to a quarter million? If we dont win the next election, and get rid of these liberal "disasters", in office right now, ten million people will come to DC to protest, next time!
As with any car purchase, once you drive it off the lot, it looses 25% or more of its value immediately. Personally for the distances I need to travel, I believe that an energy efficient petrol vehicle is the way to go. Saves the environment (less pollution) and keeps more money in my pocket (less taxes, less petrol). We have been sold a bill of goods. "You need a bigger, faster, fancier ... vehicle in order to stay ahead of the Jones (whoever that might be)".
Not true. I remember someone who drove it off the lot and right into a drain ditch. Car totaled, got all his money back, had 3 miles on it.
I got more than my money back. I put down a deposit, and they sold the bike, so let me have a better one for same price, it was totaled 5 days latter, and I got more than I paid for it, and I never even paid a cent in premiums.
A car goes up in flames at Luton airport's carpark, and the news channels are saying it's down to a lithium battery in a diesel car.
Of course it is.
Trust the politicians and the journalists at your own peril, always.
Way to go Mac. Keep your back straight and your chin up, always with truth. Never bow to insanity.
Better to trust the randos
@@MrPdxLover In Mt Colt I trust. I don't even trust Smith & Wesson after they sold up out in the 90's.
I can't believe anyone has been daft enough to buy into the electric car con!
The ban on the internal combustion engine will not happen with mine or my children’s lifetime. There is no realistic alternative on the horizon. In order for the ban to take effect when planned Britain would have to install approx 800 charging stations per day every day. We would have to undertake the largest public works of all at an unimaginable cost to the taxpayer. The ban is neither practical or attainable. Subsequent governments, even those who are hardened net zero nuts will be forced to push it back again and again.
Over 90% of EVs on the road are fleet vehicles, leased by companies to avoid extra charges. EVs are not practical and are some of the highest depreciating assets out there.
But other than that, the EV is the way forward.
Sarcasm alert.
Exactly
And where do you think those “90%” “depreciating” assets will end up. Undercutting used ICE prices, removing the premium the anti EVers keep banging on about. The writing is on the wall, but the letters are not big enough for you to see.
The great consolation you can take from this Lee is that you've saved many people the anguish, hand-wringing, time and expense associated with EV ownership. My heartfelt apology to 'How dare you!' Greta and the EV community.
Only a (rich) fool would buy electric!
I knew been too poor to afford a decent EV would pay off eventually 😅
@@edwardstaniforth3057 it's a motorbility car, they push EVs, I didn't want one..I am a stroke victim, not a fool
@@WeeShoeyDugless stroke victim, with a motorbility car..not rich or a fool..
@@johnsovcom
Sorry to hear of your predicament, I certainly never implied you were a fool or rich, I never replied to you.
the world uses 100 million barrels of oil per day, nobody here reading this will live to the day they 'ban oil'
That 36 million barrels of oil per year and is calculated at 47 years left of all oil on earth as we know. Even if you say "we don't know exactly how much oil we have because we haven't discovered all of it", sure double that or triple that even. That would mean your children will live in that time frame. And it's not ALL about fuel for cars. Without oil, we have no plastics or rubber, there are food products made with byproducts of oil (guarantee you've consumed it even if you think you haven't), waxes, adhesives ....
The situation is far more devastating than buying a gas vs electric car. The device your using to watch these videos use some sort of product from crude oil.
To say no one here will live to see the day is the reason we have all the problems we have in the world today. Because you and others like you don't care and are willing to pass it on to your next generation to deal with on top of any new problems. Then crap just adds up and makes life less desirable and harder. Then you wonder why younger generations are having such a hard time when you didn't.
Have some dignity and STOP making your problems someone else's problem. And if you refuse to due that, you have no right to complain what the next generation does to fix your problems.
Trueth sucks.
@@allenhoekstrajr
Holy long-winded comment Batman!
I'm just saying we will use up all the oil in the ground. We are oil junkies, there is no replacement for a 100 MILLION barrels per day addiction with current technology.
Also solar panels and wind turbine blades are being dumped for my great grand children to clean up! Nuclear also needs to be cleaned up at a truly obscene cost. Let me say it again, we don't have the technology to replace 100 MILLION barrels of energy per DAY ! Nuclear fusion plants will take a whole life time to build.
@@allenhoekstrajr Actually, ultimate recovery of oil goes up every year. We have spent the last 100 years getting a low few percent of the oil that is actually there. Old fields will become new again.
@@richy69ify I'm in oil. We have only scratched the surface of oil extraction. For a long time we might get 2% of the oil oil of a field. New technologies make old fields productive again. Then there is the junk we just burn off because it's inconvenient and not valuable enough to capture and market. We have at least 300 years of natural gas that could be converted Gas To Liquid into vehicle fuel. Dutch Royal Shell already pioneered the technique for a cleaner burning fuel equivalent to diesel at equivalent price. We are so far away from being out of petrochemicals for vehicles, it's laughable.
@@allenhoekstrajrYou’ve arbitrarily multiplied the estimated reserves by a given amount. You’ve no basis for that value. Instead, I choose to multiply it by 20-30.
If you go back to any earlier decade and run your calculation forward. Notice we’ve never got much runway. There’s a reason for that.
Also, how much reading around abiogenic origins of oil have you done?
Once you consider how much methane there is & the likely origin of that simple molecule, you’ll start to wonder things like I am now.
Ok, spoiler. Check the composition of the atmosphere of one of Saturn’s moons, Titan. Over 5% is methane and it’s at higher pressure than on Earth’s surface, such that it’s liquid on Titan’s surface.
It’s logical to assume methane on Earth also arises from formation of the planet, billions of years ago. There’s not the slightest evidence of life on Titan.
There’s no evidence for biogenically-derived methane deep beneath Earth’s surface. It’s simply implied by the deliberately chosen label as a “fossil fuel”. Look up how & when oil and gas attracted that label & who sponsored the activity. Pennies began dropping for me at that point, and was the spur to check my assumptions around oil & gas and recall where they came from.
Consider further what petrol is, largely. Did you know, before looking it up?
Now, of the two routes of synthesis of that principal component, which seems better supported by the available evidence? 1. From long dead, previously living things, 2. From methane, present when Earth formed.
Here’s a final question for you. What’s the deepest below the surface that verifiable fossils have been found? What’s the routine depth to which we drill to obtain oil and gas?
The strangest thing is that the latter value is 10,000 feet deeper than the former.
Please now reconsider your answer, 1 or 2 above?
Now, I’m not an expert in petrochemicals. But I do have a degree & a PhD in scientific subjects (biochemistry, toxicology and pharmacology). So I have a good understanding of chemical & biochemical reactions. I can also reason & read scientific literature with critical thinking skills.
I’m no longer satisfied with the assumptions we’ve mostly made, if we’ve ever thought about it at all.
Once it’s appreciated that there’s been a lot of deliberately misleading information about the topic stretching back well over a century, it’s not at all unreasonable to challenge what we’re being told about “fossil fuels”.
I no longer automatically believe ANYTHING governments tell me. Because they’re proven, serial, serious liars.
EVs are just a stepping stone to having no car
Yes,bus travel is the future for the peasants.
dont you know by 2050 we will all be using teleporters
You never said a truer word I had one for 5 years insurance went up this year 3 times as much could not afford it being a pensioner could not sell
It but lucky just before insurance ran out it was stolen off my drive and never recovered they paid me out after 7weeks yippee so bought a petrol one
I see that the fire brigade is advising garages that service cars to park electric vehicles 50ft apart from other cars because of a possible fire risk. Absolutely agree with you about the control element.
What. Fire brigade?
I'm glad the ban has been delayed, EVs are way to expensive for most people and unsuitable for too many as well.
In North America, electric vehicles are sitting on dealership lots with no customers to buy them. Their price, operating costs, and range issues are scaring people away.
It is currently impossible to manufacture more than about 8-10 million EV's per year as there simply isn't enough material. By material I am referring to firstly Cobalt, then Lithium. Cobalt is required to stabilise a Lithium Ion battery, and prevent heating expansion, and ultimately battery failure and a very loud bang.
All current lithium Ion batteries require approx 5% of the battery material to be Cobalt. Some may claim 3% (Tesla), but 5% is more realistic. Less than this and the battery simply can not retain charge, deliver the required power, or support the charging cycles required to be of much use, over it's "short" lifetime.
The average 65Kwh EV battery weigh's in at about 350Kg, so a quick calc gives us a Cobalt requirement of about 17kg per battery, based on 5% per battery, or 11kg bassed on the lower 3% figure.
We are currently able to either mine, dredge (sea bed), reclaim, or recycle about 190,000 metric tones of Cobalt per year. Out of this we use roughly 40% of that for all non EV Lithium Ion batteries (phones, laptops etc). So that leaves us 115,000 metric tones of Cobalt for EV's, that's 115,000,000Kg of Cobalt. Each EV battery requires 11kg-17kg (3%/5%). We'll be generous and take the 3% Cobalt figure, 115,000,000kg/11kg = 10,454,545 (10.5 million) EV batteries.
We currently sell about 76 million cars globaly. The UK alone sells 2.3 million cars every year, and by 2030 all cars sold will have to be EV's, or PHEV's (2035). Please note I did not say we would be selling 2.3 million EV's in the UK every year, and nor did the government.
These facts are conveniently never mentioned in any government statistics, predictions, or manufacturer advertising, or tester RUclips vids, including this one .
This is the reason that EV's are so expensive, and will only become ever more expensive due to supply and very limited demand of EV batteries. This is also the reason why all the investors in British Volt have scarpered. The Chinese have already laid claim to about 75% of all the availible Cobalt supply. There is simply no point in building a Giga Factory here in the UK as we won't be able to procure the material (Cobalt/Lithium) required to manufacture EV batteries on a scale required to make it viable.
The only places where Cobalt is found in any quantity are countries like DRC, and Cuba, so not the most stable environments on earth, by a long shot. Also the mining and collection of Cobalt in these countries is appalling in terms of Human Rights, and conditions. All this is glossed over by the motor industry.
I won't even start of the lack of infrastructure for EV's in the UK. We needed to spend some 2 trillion pounds on our Nation Grid infrastructure to support renewables, and EV's between 2020, and 2030. That was a staggering 90 billion every year for 10 years. We've currently spent nothing! The reason for this are the facts laid out above. The government know all this, were mearly playing for time and praying to god that a miracle occurs in EV battery technology some time soon.
Sorry to wee all over the chips (insert joke here), but perhaps people need to start reading factual papers more, rather than following trends, and the trendy.
EV sales have now plateaued at about 11.5% of total car sales (265,000), that's because everyone that can afford to buy the latest trendy thing, at an inflated price, has already done so. To get to 2.3 million by 2030 we will need to add an additional 165,000 EV's to the previous years total every year up to 2030. So in 2024 we will need to sell 430,000 EV's, you get the idea? This is clearly not feasible, so by 2030 we may be selling, lets be generous and say 500,000 EV's a year. This will be down to cost and lack of supply. That leaves a yawing 1.8 million people waiting for a new car every year, year on year, because they can't buy a new petrol, or deisel car. This will take us right back to the 1960's USSR where waiting times for a Trabant was 20 years.
As an aside what ever happened to V2G (Vehicle to Grid)?
I read this, but you thus far only have 9 likes, I'm finding YT a comments a pretty pointless adventure and an utter waste of time beyond telling people to wee off in word of one syllable!...
Well you bought an electric Porsche what did you expect especially in this economy? The price is going to keep tanking, it was over priced to begin with and half the price was in the badge. 🙏🏿
I’ve always been of the opinion people who buy EV cars are the same people who expect Tesco to have strawberries in December.
Strawberries 🍓 in December are not a European / Government directive
Are you implying ICE owners don’t buy strawberries out of season ? You should stand watch in the car park and prove yourself wrong.
Any government that bans petrol and diesel cars will be voted out of office.
Also, being so heavy, they are going to carry way more kinetic energy in the event of a collision.
e=mc2?
My Kia EV is 1700Kg a Standed Range Rover about 2900Kg???
Insurance premiums have also doubled because a minor incident is enough for a write off of an EV.
That's absolutely ridiculous. Why would you write off an EV after a minor incident?
That's absolute rubbish! There's more to go wrong with an IC motor in a crash than an EV.
Folk throw trash like this around on both sides of the argument if only people checked up on actual facts first. That includes RUclipsrs writing dodgy click bait titles!!
@@franzmuller235 Might be ridiculous, but if a battery pack is damaged, that could result in a disastrous fire, at any time.
@@franzmuller235 simple: there is no way to check if the shock of the collision has damaged any cells inside the battery pack. Nobody wants to sign that everything is ok and then, a few weeks later, the owner finds himself with the car on fire.
Watch the videos of Wham Baam Teslacam (an EV partisan channel) and count how many written off cars there are in minor collisions.
Lea, you only have yourself to blame, nobody forced you to buy an electric car my friend, so now you have to bite the bullet so to speak. Personally I'm happy that Sunak has pushed back the sale of ICE vehicles to 2035. I love my diesel car, I wouldn't have anything else.
By his own admission, Lee did not buy his electric car. He leased it, so doesn't matter about the value as long as he stays within the mileage limit he contracted for and keeps it in an acceptable condition for lease-return. Please, ANYBODY, correct me if I'm wrong.
how high do fuel prices have to rise? before this moron shuts his pie hole...
my 1994 Toyota Camry is the greenest car on the planet , and looking more beautiful every day .
Anyone knew the EV was a joke. I love my diesel.
I couldn't agree more. I'm Diesel till I die.
#me too :-) by far the safest fuel should the vehicle catch on fire too.
I love deisel engines , i just had my first ignition based car fail (Honda Hair Dryer) as I had to buy one for my wife here in thailand as "she who must be obeyed" insisted. I've owned trucks vans generators boat engines and audis all deisel !
My diesel car charges really fast as well. 0-600 miles in about 1minute !
I wouldn't buy one myself cus they are not as green as they are made out to be.
Totally agree
Yeah my little Suzuki would have cost less than half that in fuel. If people really want to save the planet, they are going about it the wrong way.
My car is 2/5 the weight, 1/6 the price, and I have absolutely no trouble getting insurance. Electric cars are not green, they are green washed.
If you spend £120,000 on a car, fuel mileage cost shouldn't really be a thing. Just saying.
Electric cars are the greatest step backward in modern automotive history.
My ice car wont let me die stuck in a blizzard overnight
The problem is that nobody can predict how much damage the battery pack sustained when an EV has been in an accident. It might catch on fire and nobody can predict when.
Will an electric car last as long as my 20 year old ford focus 1.6 ghia.
EV insurance costs have exploded because when they have a bump the integrity of the battery cells can not be guaranteed so they write the whole car off. Add to that the spontaneous combustion issues and that has led to a 40% increase in insurance for everyone not just EV owners.
Just said exactly that in my post up above. Just the other month an E.V. caught fire on a container ship and burnt the whole thing to a crisp off Norway. It was transporting E.V.s and one just decided it was going to burn. They ended up abandoning the ship and getting in rescue teams to put it out. The crew are on record, online and in reports saying it was an E.V. that started it. The various companies involved have tried to sweep it under the carpet as usual....
@@Simon-xc5oy @paulmoon2717 People are using the Luton Airport case to jump on the anti-EV bandwagon as well (approx 1500 cars and the car park destroyed). All investigations have suggested it was a diesel vehicle that started the fire (not sure on how this happened though as diesel is pretty hard to ignite). How many reports have you seen though suggesting we ban all diesel vehicles? The irony is quite amusing 🤷.
You are right I agree with you. I dont want them to abandon or abolish E.V.s I just want them to be cheaper and safe regarding the battery. I want to pull up to a charging point, spend 10 minutes charging the car and get 300 miles or so out of it in all weathers. When they can do that, I would think about buying one. But they cant do that. The tech is not there yet and I dont think it ever will be unless there is some vast incredible breakthrough of some kind. When I was a tiny child in the early 70s there was some issues with car petrol tanks and them leaking and exploding. They refined the technology and made them very safe. The car in Luton was supposed to be a diesel. Until I hear otherwise. Range Rovers have many issues but it is strange it blew up like it did. Why did it do that? As you say diesel does not burn like that easily. When it comes to Electric Cars there are still so many issues with the batteries that need to be addressed. I constantly read online and in the papers about Electric Bikes, Scooters, Phones and even vapes exploding and or catching fire due to the batteries. Same tech in Electric cars. Listen to that car of his in the video hum due to the sheer amount of voltage going into it. Its like an Electric Substation! I just dont trust manufactures to get these things 100% when they are chasing sales and profits. The lie, they omit facts and the truth is from their point of view. Time will tell if this all ends up working out for the best. Bottom line is I dont trust electric cars due to the batteries.
Charging a battery makes no sound. But it does create some heat. The car has a battery conditioning system that either cools or heats the battery as needed. That has a fan which can make quite some noise.
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The memorial at Birch Services was for Inspector Raymond Anthony Codling who was shot dead on September 14 1989 whilst on a night shift. He and his colleague Sergeant James Bowden entered Birch services looking for a white van. The officers saw a motorcyclist who they approached and he gave his details (these were false). A short time later they saw the same man again as they approached Sgt Bowden noticed in the man’s belt a large knife and the man with his hand inside his jacket. Sgt Bowden went to grab the knife only for the man to push him back and pull out a 9mm revolver and shoot at him, the shot missed but he then shot Inspector Codling in the chest and whilst lying injured another shot was taken killing him. Sgt Bowden gave chase but was shot in the leg and was forced to take cover. A manhunt for the suspect identified as Anthony Hughes was traced to a garage in Kendray South Yorkshire, where upon entering he was found dead having shot himself with the same gun he had used to kill Inspector Codling. In 1991 a memorial was unveiled at the place of his death by the Police memorial trust. Gun crime in the UK is unusual and even more so back in 1989 so this was a shock to the Country and all Police forces. Whether you like or hate the Police, these officers put their lives on the line every time they go to work not knowing whether this is their last.
2035 will NOT happen and 2040 WILL NOT HAPPEN actually it will NEVER HAPPEN i always said this is WY I got a Diesel car 3 y ago
That’s great and I agree electric cars are not a solution, however they could try and price us out of ice cars by hiking the tax up, or phasing put petrol stations, the second would only happen if 50% or more of people take on electric cars, as the demand for fuel will decrease.
Yet if you pay your daily ULEZ charge it will help the environment
Subsidies and higher prices mean EVs produce more carbon than ICE vehicles. Higher cost means economic activity to produce those dollars which in turn produces more carbon dioxide. Even worse it takes about $20 dollars in economic activity to produce $1 in subsidies and/or higher prices.
Hello there, I am UK born. I have lived in Perth, Western Australia for the last 50 years. I am 71 years old still have a decent brain.
The United Kingdom by land area will fit into Western Australia 13 times, so as you imagine WA is a big piece of land. Take for instance Perth to a city down in the south of WA named Albany. Distance is app around 500 kilometers. Apart from the country towns along the way it is a barren landscape. It is what we call bush.
The road you drive on is not a motorway, most of it is just a 2 lane road. Maximum speed limit of 110kph, or 66mph. Fuel stations along the way, as far as I know do not have electric charge points. They want to sell you Petrol or Diesel.
The cost of electric cars in Australia is much more than the average petrol car. People who have a mortgage cannot afford these cars. The Tesla costs app $75,000 to buy. I have no idea what they cost to run but they have a cost.
We drive long distances here in WA, we can drive up to 1000klms a day, we do it in say 14 hours. 2 drivers make this trip an easy trip.
We can drive 300 klms and not see a fuel station at all. We use a lot of SUV's and full size $WD's. Our lifestyle would be severely impacted by EV's. More on this at a later date,
Graham.
Buying EVs is utter stupidity, and ANYTHING but eco; quite the opposite...
They're were EV's when you were young , they were called milk floats and that's where they should have stayed.
I live in Maine now, but in the early ‘80’s I did a milk round in Enfield for the Co op. My electric milk float was the only vehicle I’ve ever driven that had the brake and accelerator pedals reversed, it used to mess me up worse than driving on the wrong side of the road in the U.S. But… I loved that job!
one of my business partners was Tim Ashby of Sussex Dairies in Brighton (UK) he had 200 of them, what a loss now we have to drive to a local bloody shop to get milk, cheese,eggs and bread that Tim's blokes used to deliver. @@Bobjlow
It worked better with horses pulling the milk wagons but I believe the number of horse deaths due to drunks was a factor in removing the horses from the streets by at least 45 years ago . But today all civilised countries have addressed that problem pretty well .
My Seat Leon ST diesel has stop start so in traffic the engine switches off until I depress the clutch. I get 70 mpg and over 700 to a tank which takes 10 minutes. EV are EVil
How can we let a politician control major aspects of our lives?
The infrastructure in this country hasn’t improved in years but they still expect you to pay through taxes etc. someone is getting rather rich from these failings.
Well said pal, they cant fix the roads so what chance do you have of going totally electric, people need to face Facts, it exactly the same in America, don't kid yourselves.
They have just revamped a Shell garage by me apparently there are Shell recharge chargers there. They seem to have forgotten to install them or they are waiting for them to arrive on the slow boat literally from China.
@@bentullett6068 Everything comes from China, it needs to Stop!, we are over dependent on them already, think long term what this means.
What's the carbon footprint of an electric car battery fire?
I am 87 years old and have had many,many,years of driving an ICE car - I do not envy today's youth.
Doing a full on U turn on the petrol car ban was too much for politicians. Hence the 5 year delay, which will get delayed again and eventually swept under the carpet when the current politicians have retired. Not their problem anymore...
Don’t be so sure,Labour will likely get in and that’s the economy down the toilet and all the Eco Loonies pushing the Climate Fraud.
Mate it was only ever a pledge it was not signed into UK law. I for one knew Britain can't meet any deadlines, from NHS projects to Railways
@@richy69ify How is that billion pounds of trees working out. Any of them still alive?
@@robertsmith2956
what? you mean the ones Boris Johnson pledged to plant?
Insurance companies have realised that they catch fire a bit more often than you’d think also if you have an accident in one it’s none too easy to find garages who want to repair these eyewateringly expensive toys
Insurance companies are well aware that EV's are vastly less likely to catch fire than ICE. And I have been driving an MG5 for 3 years, bought for £24,000 and worth perhaps £16,000 today. It does all my daily driving and just did a tour of the Scottish highlands. In that time maintenance has been nothing. WTF do you get "eye wateringly expensive toy" from?
Tesla cars are very expensive to repair. Body panels and electronic components in particular
And take your house with it lol .
They know if a fire happens, nothing is left Also good chance nothing around it will survive also a chance of being locked inside so a death won't be good @@mikebreen2890
Anybody that parks their EV in a garage attached to their home is insane. Remember that an EV fire is self sustaining. Nothing extinguishes it. But beyond that, the people pushing EVs admit that constraining freedom of movement is part of the deal. Some people will simply not be able to own their own transportation. They like that the hoi poli will not be able to freely move.
Thanks for speaking the Truth!
Halon Gas will. But the joke is on them. EV's are just code for MOBILE LASER PLATFORM. All they are doing is forcing you to have it easier to take them out. No ballistics with a laser either.
Trying to get to the Gold Coast from Brisbane is a nightmare at most times,but when the government lets half a million immigrants in this year alone what else can you expect.The federal government lets the people in but the state government is responsible for infrastructure.What infrastructure?They are years behind.
Remember in winter our government telling us to save power by not using electric at peak hours, well can you imagine 10 million EVs being charged up at the same time.
Yeh. That's why I charge my car at night for 1/4 of what it cost during the day (Octopus energy) and 1/7 of the energy cost for petrol. If elec vehicles are loosing money now it the time to buy.
In Aberdeen the power was out last winter in in some areas for over a week... many with electric cars didnt go anywhere
@@gerryparker7699 🤣🤣🤣
@@gerryparker7699 you won't be charging anything when the grid goes down.
Car insurance has gone through the roof across the board not just evs
That just isn't true. My Porsche Cayman GTS insurance was slightly lower this year. My Ducati Multistrada was lower this year. My Tesla Model 3 doubled. My partners MX5 lower this year.
I'm in Canada. 500 kms is considered a short drive here.
You are 100% CORRECT.
It's all about CONTROL.🤬🤬
Bullshot. The statistical average driving daily distance in Canada is 37.9 kms. When was the last time you drove "500 kms" ... yeah, go away now.
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It’s pert of a right wing conspiracy effort.
@markmark5269 he didn't say he went for long drives all the time. In reality if its within the state and under for 4 hours, I might say it's not that far. If it's 5+ hours I'd say it's "kind of a long drive" it's by enlarge enviornment, social and local (rural likely) definitions, which unfortunately you can't always effectively "Google". It's like relying on zillow to have accurate algorithms, but they're only loosely based in reality and vary wildly. Look up 10 homes on zillow that haven't sold in several years, they dont have enough details or information to be accurate. Those dad gum city slickers arrr da ones calling 38 km a long drive 🤣 (which is maybe 20 minutes). At most he was mildly exaggerating.
Taycan: cost 120k, range 280 miles, 0-60 in 5.4s
Model 3 LR: cost 50k, range 390m, 0-60 in 4.2s.
The market has marked the value of your car down to what it's really worth. It doesnt care about your opinion about Tesla quality vs Porsche. The problem is not so much EVs as your decision to buy an overpriced fault-ridden car.
So glad to have paid my taxes this year so you can enjoy a nice EV subsidy. While I drive a 15 year old car I bought second hand (6th hand) so the carbon footprint of manufacturing it belongs to the first owner (or is split between me and the 5 previous owners)
EV owners and their new cars are ruining the planet and exploiting children in third world countries to mine the huge amounts of lithium.
More lithium in his ONE EV battery than in EVERY phone or gadget I will ever own PUT TOGETHER.
Values sharply dropping isn't due to Rishi (I'd be the first to blame him if it was!), it's due to a metric crapload of ex-lease electric cars flooding the market this year coupled with used car prices finally starting to drop after their covid-induced peak. The ridiculous insurance hikes at the moment are for everyone whether they own a Taycan or a Fiesta.
I AM SURPRISED A INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD EVEN INSURE ELECTRIC CARS WITH THEIR LIABILITY FACTOR.....
EV’s, no thanks. Great for golf courses, gated communities and around town. But no to all around daily driving long distances. I’ll stick to my 86 I.C.E. daily driver 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The whole EV thing is the biggest con.
Yes it is. What are they for anyway? They are running on mainly fossil fuel generated electricity, which is traded through at least two wholesalers The batteries can weigh the equivalent of 9 cwt bags of coal. Considering we've had battery road vehicles for around 100 years, modern EVs are not such great design work. It was always going to be a very heavy battery and an electric motor. Overall, EV's are not exactly very innovative and certainly won't help to save the planet. They might suit the company car market for a while. until financial reality kicks in.
I was told by my insurance company, that they will void my insurance if I charge my car in my garage it has to be min 20 feet from the house
Good serve's you right for buying one
I sold my 2022 EV as it was unusable for anything other than commuting, difficult to find a working public charger that was available or worked. My insurance went from £335 to £1564. I lost 35% of the value when I traded it in. Gone back to petrol now.
Wow! Absolutely mind blowing 😱
Good video, thanks. It's weird how you never hear non EV drivers talking about how much fuel they have, or what range they have. They simply stop for 5 mins and hey presto another 400+ miles.
Wow that’s amazing 😂👍🏻
You are right about freedom of movement we have got this joke of a Welsh government
Constant fast charging will reduce the service life of the batteries. The amount of times that you fast charge is recorded in the battery modules ECU. A technician can then plug a laptop into your cars ECU and determine the condition of the batteries and number of fast charging cycles that those batteries have had in their lifetime. This will further reduce the value of the car. Try not to fast charge too often. Probably only do it once or twice a month.
Finally!.. someone that understands battery technology and maintenance. Thank you.
No one here has also mentioned the effects of cold climate on battery power storage.
I’ve just bought myself a sexy little Triumph Trident 660 motorcycle ( nearly 9k with all its extras , a lot of money for a truck driver ) it makes a gorgeous noise and goes like a cut snake for a mid range bike ( for a middle aged novice) I love putting E5 petrol in it and burning my own little hole in the ozone layer to annoy that cranky Greta . I feel for future generations who will never have the thrill of owning petrol vehicles
After 5 years or so, who wants to purchase a second hand battery !
I would not want a used EV of 5 years old but now look at a diesel of around 6 years old. They have been devalued because of Ulez but would go on for many years but some are either being crushed or sold to an area with no Ulez or Caz zones.
I was talking to a small independent specialist car insurance at a car show at the weekend and they confirmed the price hikes are mainly down to electric cars, yes prices would of gone up due to supply shortages, but even a normal Cat D incident can cause an electric car to being written off.
That’s from the horses mouth
And presumably ICE insurance is going up because of the risk of a fault claim involving an EV. So we're paying both ways.
didnt we used to have green things called horses and carts? horse manure was good for the veggies beds as well...
Rather stick with my diesel
I can't imagine having to plan my day's activities around whether or not I have a vehicle that will get me there on a certain level of charge, and then getting criticized if I don't have a "full tank" before I start out.
I can imagine it alright. I guess I'm lucky enough to not be able to afford it. :)
I appreciate your honesty, so many others will just live in denial, or try to explain how great it is to be under water on their cool new toy.
How much heavier are electric vehicles and has anyone worked out how much extra damage they may cause to the roads.
and inertia when they smash into something.. a good point you've made...
Hoping little Rishi, or whoever is ruining the country at the time, puts the ban on petrol and diesel back to 2050.
Car manufacturers have *always* had the opportunity to refuse to build EV's. If they'd got together and simply said 'no', what could the Government do? Close them down? Fine them? The uproar wouldn't be worth it. But their own GREED was their downfall - believing that 'forced' EV ownership would create a lucrative market for them. Serves them right.
ESG score is in place so they are controlled
@@turokforever007 so they have now squandered billions of their shareholders money. Very responsible! Whole ESG system needs dismantling as it has been used to further this blatant criminal scam of blaming CO2 for climate change.
Nothing has changed. It’s just an attempt to get votes in 2024. Days after the announcement, Nissan stated they will stop ICE cars by 2030.
I'm in South Australia and regularly travel to Adelaide, the capital. a big state with a very small population. I go via the oldest major freeway here that's part of route 1 which is like the coast road, east to west and has a rubbish surface and by the time I get to 30 kms away, traffic is building and at every entry after that, it increases until by the last one, some 10 kms out, it is slowed to 70-80kph from the set speed of 90. When I hit town, it's 60kph and lucky to do 50 with lots of waiting for 3 and 4 changes of traffic lights before getting through to the next red light. Pity we haven't invented a computer that can make the traffic flow. Sigh. It's the same everywhere in town. We used to call it a 20 minute city, be doing well now if you got from one end to the other in 40 minutes now.
So many SUVs and 4WDs now. On the country roads I can count off 7 to one sedan. Can't imagine that lot going EV.
I notice how good UK road surfaces are. Many major roads here are crap. Pot holes, poor man hole covers not level and or below grade, badly filled patches that aren't even with the road, poor joins with earlier surfaces, really bad level crossings. I haven't seen a good one anywhere. Bump, bump, bump would have been my video. I feel like I'm playing Frogger dodging them. That's not to say there aren't some very good roads but the seem few compared to what I see from other places.
It costs me $110 to fill my 60 liter tank on my 2002 6 cylinder gas guzzler, that gets about 540 kms to the tank mostly on country roads at 105-110kph. It cost $1700 to buy several years ago, it needs a new exhaust now, $2,000 but could I get a second hand for a lot less.
What about the cost of EV tires? They need to be inflated harder and they wear faster because the extra battery weight. That's a hidden cost and someone said it's also extra pollution too as all the rubber compound ends up on the road, into the drains and then where?
I'm still barracking for compressed air cars. They were good in the 40's driving from coast to coast in the US on one charge but got squeezed out by big oil. With modern carbon fiber tanks, we could easily, safely store lots of air. Motor oil would last the life of the motor which would be incredibly long as the heat kills the oil and the heat and carbon does the petrol/Diesel motor in. Hmm, sounds like all the reasons why they never got off the backyarder's bench.
You should rename your channel "Gullible's Travels".
If you can afford a Taycan, you can afford the insurance!
Just the opposite. If you can afford a Taycan, you shouldn't need to have insurance at all.
He can't afford either.
Over 100 years ago the internal combustion engine proved its its superiority to the electric car. The EV is not the future, its the past.
The ICE powered car has had billions spent on its development. Battery technology is proceeding at pace and, very likely will produce astonishing results within a decade. The main advantage right now is no unhealthy tailpipe exhaust.
There are limits to how quickly a battery can be charged that's physics. There are also limits to the efficiency of a battery due to weather humidity and other factors. You're Faith that somehow miraculously these physics limits will be overcome is optimistic in the extreme. As far as pollution is concerned one EV battery going through Thermal Runaway and the emissions from that fire is much more toxic to the environment than anything coming out of a tailpipe of thousands of cars. The amount of Earth must be displaced to create these lithium ion batteries is mind-boggling it makes coal strip mining look like panning for gold at the creek. But you go ahead and buy your electric car but allow me to keep my cheaper safer, more particle and ecologically saner vehicle.
damn, that means I can't commit suicide unless I suck the battery terminals, you lot never consider the latest earth pillaging aspects in your mindless acceptance of naff rush-to-market technology @@AlanWilliams-su4bs
Why are people buying battery cars - and where do they think the electricity comes from to charge the battery, and where does the lithium come from for the batteries, and what damage is done because of extra weight and going up in flames??
1984 is supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual on how to run society .
Idiocracy is another cautionary tale as well.
I’ve seen many call it a documentary 😁
Seen a post the other day about the lifespan of wind farms, the blades are made of carbon fibre and only have a lifespan of 2 years then are left piled high as they have no way of recycling these
So much for this green energy!!
I was thinking about a EV then the push back happened :) 4.4 diesel Range Rover now sits on my drive way :) Ohhhhh Happy days
the majority of people wont be able to purchase an ev but will be forced to hire lease instead. The plan from the WEF is "OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY".
Sh*t! I can't afford a beat-up, used, very old GAS car right now--let alone even think about such an unaffordable pipe dream, as an EV. Right now, I take a LOT of buses, every week, and walk over 20 miles a week, in between bus rides, just to buy food, and hang out with friends--and I am 71 years old, no less!
Most own nothing now. If the WEF is right at least they'll be happy then.
When the thieves realise the batteries and motors are worth a lot, then insurance will go higher.
Insurance increased because of the lack of mechanical expertise and parts availability. EVs use different construction techniques. The Tesla in particular are a single stamped out chassis. When it's damaged, it's a much more involved repair than unbolt, order, bolt on new structure. Parts are proprietary and not oem available or refused in other vehicles. The delays in shipping, border problems (thanks brexit), higher costs for parts and the repairs means we need a courtesy car for longer while waiting. For insurance to lower, the industry needs better ev oem parts networks, more education for mechanics and autobody repairs for the new construction methods, or a change in design with repair in mind. Quicker turnaround on repairs for lesser courtesy car hire periods.
Are you sure that super hot EV fires that destroy and pollute anything nearby, isn't part of the problem?
You was sold the dream and ended up in a nightmare. My petrol car as gone up £2500 since i bought it cheap. And my older petrol car which ive had since 2007 which as been a work horse for years is also worth a couple grand not bad after 14years of use and still going strong. I am keeping my 2 petrol cars all day everyday 👍
That equaled 29 US dollars. At 87% charge and 20 minutes. My car costs 60 US dollars to fill the gas tank and takes two minutes. So, it's time VS money.
Then theres the range. Mine costs 170usd or there about to fill up here in Sweden, but I can drive all month on that in my diesel van and I have a ways so go to work.
I think he satid he had some 280-ish miles on a full charge at the beginning, so lets say 250 on those 87%, so thats 8,6 miles to the dollar.
Which to my surprise is twice what I get at 4.27 miles per dollar. But then diesel is 8,6 usd/ usgallon here.
Life is too short to be sitting at a charging station.
He said the car was at 35% before he started charging so 52% total.
@@evilsmurf2k8 thanks, I missed that. Damn video was 10 times as long as he had content for anyway, so no wonder people lose focus. :P But maybe that's an EV thing?
By 2035 most of today,s EV,s will be scrapped, making them even less desirables
Even if you do not insure the car for damage, you need liability insurance for the other cars it will burn.
why would anybody buy a vehicle that won’t do a 600 mile round trip?
Have you ever actually driven 600 miles non-stop? The last time I did a 600+ mile trip (670, actually) was 15 years ago, when I was still safely in my 30s, when I drove from the south-western corner of Spain to the French border. I had to stop twice for food and a piss - and once for fuel. With my MG4, I'd need to stop 3 *maybe* 4 times to recharge (depending on the weather) - but now I'm 50, I'd be stopping more often for a piss I reckon.
As a matter of interest how do governments around the word expect manufacturers to make plastics without the use of oil ?
Ecars when they get into an accident & the batteries get damaged causes the entire car to be scraped because the cost of the batteries is so high.
Thats more ecological, no?
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@@by010 the more you have to replace costs more. An entire car is a lot!
@@davidyeoman4500 /s is note that comment is highly sarcastic.
Why does no-one talk about the HUGE job losses when ICE cars cease to be made? Not just the car industries, but all the satellite industries that supply them with parts, and all those involved in the after-market parts supply?
Because its not important?
That's like arguing that replacing horses with cars was a bad idea, because the horse shoers would lose their jobs.
Now AI, on the other hand, has the potential to destroy society. Because that could replace all jobs.
Don’t worry there’s more of us who aren’t dumb and more people with no money so they will keep driving real cars my car is almost 60 years old and it goes up in value plus it costs me $50 to register each year while the wife pays $400 for her new Nissan also the governments around the world get the most money from fuel taxes just wait till some bright clown realise’s this they won’t stop oil we need it plus it’s china that is putting out so much pollution that it makes no difference what we do it’s all a scam.
It’s already happening. Starting with dealerships. Tesla has none, and they don’t require routine servicing. Other OEMs will have to follow suit to compete. Like it or not, this is unstoppable.
45.4 kW costing £24.63 = 0.54p/kwh ( quite reasonable for public charging ) Being generous if you get 4 miles per Kw that = 0.13p per mile. My 300bhp BMW averages 44 mpg - filled up last night at £1.53 per litre = 0.15p per mile. Generally do 1000 miles a month so your saving the measly sum of £20 p/m based on 1000 miles, Minus the cost of all those coffee's and sandwiches your compelled to buy while waiting for the thing to charge up i reckon I'm quids in - Not Including my cheaper purchase price and Insurance - ICE all the way -no brainer
If we all end up with a EV the charging costs will work out more than a ICE
Pretty much there already - I'm being generous at 4 miles per kwh but 0.60p/kwh would be break even with my ICE and I think a lot of public chargers are more around 0.70/0.80 p/kwh already so i will be the one who can afford to buy coffee and sandwiches and still be ahead !! @@turokforever007
All countries including the EU countries signed up to ban ICE cars by 2035 Boris Johnson did a bit of virtue signalling and bought it forward to 2030 and we were the only country who did that. All Richie has done is put it back in line with the EU and the other countries. Britain moving it forward 5 years made no sense if all the other countries were carrying on with ICE cars. It was just virtue signalling. So "putting it back" to 2035 is giving nothing away really.
Yes. The EV is SUCH a wonderful and MASSIVE leap forward that you STILL need a ban on ICE cars in order to persuade the public to make the switch. So what does it matter if it's set at 2030, or 2035, or otherwise?
The only electric Vehicle that makes any sense is an e bicycle for use in a built up area or city at which they excel.
Ridiculous. E bikes are equally bad. They cost a bloody fortune and people on low income can't afford them. They're essentially middle class bikes by people who don't want to exercise but appear trendy and eco (pass the sick bucket). Also, bikes used to be for exercise.
@@DavidWilliams-qs6lz my e-bike has been my best ever purchase. I use it whenever I can and it saves time, money for fuel, parking and it’s enjoyable. I live in a hilly area and it has been a really positive addition to my life.
You shouldn't have to plan your life because of charging a car! Having lived with an EV for a year (wife's company car) I can honestly say it's a nightmare, charging times, charging anxiety on long trips etc.. I personally don't think EV is the future.
Interesting however no anxieties or nightmares here in over 10 years of EV ownership. Not one to use my employers car for long trips though even if he says he's OK with it.
Even with a middle of the road EV with 250 miles range that's means stopping for 30 to 45 minutes every 4 hours (unless your driving at breakneck speeds well above the legal speed limit in most places) which you are going to need to do anyways for a Bio-Break and sustenance so no big deal for the majority of reasonable people.
Now if the employer gave her an EV set up with a 120 mile battery for the average daily commute that would not be a reasonable vehicle to use for regularly commuting over 30 miles per day round trip which is the average nor a good choice for long trips however that is getting the wrong tool for the job.
I could also get try to use a 9 volt cordless drill with a 0.6 amp battery for long jobs that need an 18 to 20 volt 5 amp battery with a 15 minute charger and complain too however would that be the drills fault or my own for choosing one inappropriate for my usage?
Best!
Probably all insurance companies will stop insuring EVs because if your car starts a fire that destroys other cars or buildings, the insurance company will need to pay out 10s or 100s of thousands for the damage. Furthermore, do not be surprised if your house insurance skyrockets also if you have a garage. They will assume you park it inside and may burn down the house. Some companies may not insure houses for EV owners in the future.
Bunch of crap.
In the USA there were 5600 garage. Fires.
Total EV fires anywhere around 50.
Gas car fires in USA are 11x more often than EV fires
London parking garage collapse was caused by a non EV catching fires.
Gas cars are too dangerous.
Don't forget 1600 gas pump fires..
No Tesla supercharger fires..
Also house insurance is going up for ev owners as it to much risk of fire and death and some will also not insure your home if you have a pod charger fitted
So the value of the car drops but the price of insurance goes up, sounds like a Great deal, I'm happy to see the Insurance companies wake up.