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Did I waste my money on this Auction Fire Truck?
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2022
- I bought this fire truck off the GSA Government Auction website, and now we are trying to bring it back to life and turn it into an amazing toy hauler.
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Let give those batteries a salute they held up to all that cranking
Pretty damn good for batteries that cost less then $100 each.
Caught your series because of the 466. Very entertaining. I would have done everything that I could to clean up the rat crap before putting hands and arms all in it. Run it up on blocks on one side and used the fire hose to wash interior out. Probably would empty the nearest reservoir though. Your aunt is a trooper.
Thank you and I love your RUclips name. I can so relate to that.
finally a youtuber in Oregon, lived here my whole life and its rare to meet/see others online
Thank you so much Jayray. I know what you mean. I have been trying to find some local youtubers that are larger than I am so I can chew on there ear about how to put out a better product, but there really is not any.
If it has glow plugs, you should cycle them a few times before turning it over.
Love the rig. I’m excited to see how turns out.
I’m a retired fire chief. Now I like to travel, Camp, hike, fish, etc.
Got brothers and Mom at Lake Shasta.
Right on Stephen. Sadly the DT466 inline 6 that's in it doesn't have glow plugs. International did put intake heaters on them but that was not until 2004. I'm sure that we are having fuel bleed off somewhere in the system or I have read that it can be because of the ECU. It will defiantly be something I have to dive into soon because I need it to start on cold days as well.
@@PaperBeatsRock ether
@@PaperBeatsRock Check the engine oil to see if fuel is getting into the oil.
Nice looking truck., many possibilities with the compartments. Tools, food, wire rope, etc. I'd keep the box...
I agree and I would keep the box if I didn't need to pull goose necks and 5th wheels.
When it gets around freezing, time to add some anti gel additive to the tanks. I got a 96 f250 with the 7.3 and on these, there is a fuel bowl heater that shorted out on the highway causing the 30a fuse to the ECM to blow. When replacing the fuel bowl heater, I found it burried in sludge that looked like wet clay which also blocked off the fuel bowl drain port. Cleaned it up, replaced the heater and fuse and filter and she has been great ever since. I also leave the key on for about 30 seconds after the wait light goes out to let the glow plugs get even hotter.
I really do need to get some anti gel for the tank. That and properly clean this whole fuel system.
Best Sunday morning ever!thanks for the upload!
Thank you so much Ryan.
grabs wrench.. "whadda we got goin on here!?"
The single gray wires in the console are for the warning lights. They removed most of them from the vehicle. The combination cord will be custom to whichever the modifiers used it. You can either remove or reinstall the warning lights in compliance with state law. Yellow is nice ;)
Thank you Peter. At this point I may run a few warning lights but no where as much as they did. I would like to do a lot of lighting for working in the dark though. I'm going to have to look at the wires more and the load they take and see how much I can reuse.
I have a friend who is an Emergency Vehicle Tech (EVT) I’ll share your video with him, he has way more knowledge in his little finger than most of us gain in a lifetime
@@peterhicks1093 Thank you sir
Yes all the gray 3 wire cables are for strobes looks to have 2 whelen power supply the other wire that is coming up by the passenger seat is an old light bar cable that was probably from a federal signal or code 3 light bar. All the box work lights are low power 12v
Problem with rags is if they run away they will suck the rag into the intake LOL
that is my worry and why I have not done it. Granted that being said its not like I have a block around with me to stop a run away. Thank you for the reminder and I will put one close to the intake.
Very well produced. 😎
Thank you bud.
Aunt Sue for the win!!!!
For sure man. She is awesome.
Awesome truck, some tlc goes a long way
Thank you very much Derrick. It does need a lot of TLC but its going to be so worth it in the long run.
Sue got game she is willing to do whats needed
Awesome rig! I would make a suggestion…since you are removing the pump and bed, you should consider offering them up as a donation to one of the local volunteer fire departments. With the budgets most run on, it could be invaluable. Any of the parts actually (center console, SCBA seats, etc).
Thank you Chris. I'm currently talking to a fire department working something out. They had bought a truck exactly like this one for their type 3
Aunt Sue is a Rockstar, you are in for a treat no doubt when you try taking the box off that thing as you obviously no by now. Watching the next episode should be fun.
Thank you Michael. She is amazing. As for the box. Seth and I have been tackling it as Sue has been working on the cab. Its a huge pain in the ass with how tight it is and trying to undo plumbing inside it.
Just letting you know you are being viewed in Australia. Love the series so far, I am so envious of what you guys can get in the USA and how cheap that truck is. If it was available here, you would be looking at paying in the vicinity of $25 to 35,000 for something like that. Can't wait for the next installment. regards Van
Thank you so much Van. Do you all have government auctions down there in Australia? I know not all do or there is huge restrictions on being able to sign up for them.
@@PaperBeatsRock They do but the prices are prohibitive
Example A 1994 Inter S line Bogie drive $13000
@@vannewman4905 damn. That sucks man. Sorry to hear that.
Aunt Sue for the win !!!
Absolutely. She is so awesome.
27F super cold, oh you poor oregon people :) I know cannon beach got snow this last week, but 27 super cold, ha!
It is funny when I hear 27f as super cold. I don't even bother plugging in my 2001 7.3 at that temp. His case to me sounds more like air in the fuel line possibly from a pin hole in a line.
haha, yeah I cringed when editing that part of the video and knew that this comment was going to come up lol. For my local area and as we roll into winter that had been our coldest night so far. It can get into the negatives here but most of the time only in the singles and some times the teens but really that's not that cold. I did boot camp in Great Lakes, Illinois. It right on Lake Michigan and with the wind chill we will hit -40 often. That is some of the coldest I have ever been.
I believe you are correct Pugmalley. Most likely it's an O ring that had deteriorated. Something I will be diving into because I hate these hard starts and having to pump that much ether into her.
Great truck! limit the starter to 15 second bursts, your starter will last much longer, switch the key off then back on to reactivate the glow plugs.
Thank you Mike. The DT466 doesn't have any glow plugs. I wish that it did. Doesn't even have a intake warmer.
Wow, your aunt is such a great sport! Tell her "great nails"! You can probably sell that box or part it out(sell the fire stuff, then a utility box) and get most of your money back!
Thank you, David. Aunt Sue does read the comments and she loves seeing this. I'm so thankful for having her here in our lives.
Your Mrs is a legend 😊
yes she is.
funny sometimes this guy sounds like the Dad from American dad or Cronk from the emperor's new grove🤣😂
I have got that several times. lol
First video of yours I've watched but I'm already ready for the next video!
Thank you so much Craig.
Looking forward to seeing your vision for this truck.
Thank you Karl
That would make a great overlander rig for camping and exploring.
That it would Gerry. I have a good 4 season over landing tent currently but I want to make some kind of of slip on unit so that we can take the truck out camping and not always have to bring a big trailer.
A nice cab over camper would do.@@PaperBeatsRock
Keep up the good work i own my own fire ladder truck 1997 FL80 in Australia love your channel keep it up.
That is awesome Ryan. I had saw a hook and ladder truck up on the auction a few months back and I so wanted to buy it, But I need to keep my eye on the goal with the current build and if a hook and ladder is meant to be in my life then when the time is right one will show up.
If you will turn the key on and cycle the glow plugs 3-4 times then Try and start it it will help you. Starter fluid is bad on them and can brake a can or a crank shaft .
Thank you Dc and if the truck had glow plugs I would do that for sure. Sadly international didn't put any in the DT466.
I have a similar truck, mine was a forestry transport. I also ripped out the full interior, highly recommend putting sound damping down on the floor. I did the floors, roof and walls. Pretty much anywhere I could get to. Makes it a lot more quiet in the cab. I'm sure you noticed how loud it was driving! Cheers!
Chris, That is something we have been talking about a lot lately. The road noise is terrible. what did you end up using for sound damping?
@@PaperBeatsRock I used some stuff from Amazon. It works really well and is easy to work with. I used the Noico Green 170 mil and the Noico 80 mil. The 170 mil is for heat also. There may be other better products out there now /shrug
Cheers!
5:55 check your glow plugs
Sadly Al the DT466 doesn't have glow plugs. International didn't even put intake warmers on them until 2004
I'm surprised you cranked like that,the only time I've ever done that was on a scrapper and I exploded the starter motor,I would have snuffed it sooner but your cranking is killing me here,glovesfor ratstoo no matter how dead,apart from that great 😀👍
Love the truck and can't wait to see it finished. Thanks for video and nice sound track as well 👍
Thank you Brodie. I have some really awesome plans for the custom bed. I also been looking at some different idea for a cool custom bumper on it. I want it to be different then the norm you see on these trucks
@@PaperBeatsRock that sounds awesome man,really looking forward to seeing it
Not at all! Keep going! That’s a great find and I’m interested in seeing where you go with this project. Cool rig and great channel 👏
Thank you so much Joseph. We are cranking away at it and a new video is dropping today.
Good thing Sue was around to do all your heavy lifting. I'm sure you paid her real well with a Christmas bonus at that coming ....Way to go Sue
Aunt Sue is amazing. She is here a lot helping us with my son and his autism. We are very blessed to have her around.
use shop vac to clean up the rat shit etc before disassembling
I'd hook that ether canister push button injector back up again for cold starting purposes for sure.
yeah I plan on it. Also going to put a block warmer on it.
I don't know why; But I love that truck, I can't wait to see it with the 'Paper Beats Rock' spin on it!
Thank you so much Wrecker. I always love your support and seeing in the comments man.
What is it about old trucks other people threw away that makes us fall in love? I love my old saved from scrap heap truck far more than makes sense. 😍
Nice video, nice music and nice truck. Thanks!
Thank you Berber. I appreciate that.
Man,your gonna get her addicted to starter fluid lol
I think she already is lol
I know you said you didn't have plans but it would look great with a goose neck trailer I've seen a old fire engine G M C be great as a tool wagon with a trailer
Oh yeah Mark its going to be a toy hauler. I currently have a 25+5 dovetail gooseneck. We are also looking to get a dozer and a equipment trailer for it. It should be a pretty awesome hauler.
Really cool glad to see the project moving along!
Thank you Scott. Its great getting in there with the family and working on it.
I'm so excited with this project, big trucks and fire engines, two things I love 👌
Hell yes bud. Its going to be one hell of a truck once its done.
Started watching when you got your first bronco running again and every video since has been awesome! Can’t wait to see what you do this truck and keep
Up the great work!
Thank you so much Noah. I really appreciate all the support man.
Dont know about in America but over here its quite common for fire appliances to have a 24v external supply and block heaters to help them start that way you avoid having to rely on the battery to start and keep the engine warm
It pretty common here as well but sadly its not a option that was added to these trucks.
I think that is a USFS mod. 62 wildland fire engine. They manufacturer used to have the specs posted online but I don't think they are there now. Maybe a call to the manufacturer of the body could get valuable info in how it was built to aid in your conversion. I once saw an older version of this fire engine made into a really neat flatbed.
Funny that you brought this up Ken. I talked to Jason over at Boise Mobil Equipment. They had a bunch of the records for this model of truck. He was not able to pull up the build sheet. I'm guessing its in archives and they are still transferring all that from paper to digital, but he was still able to give me a ton of information, wiring diagram, service manuals. Its going to be a huge help.
You can always let the air out of the rear tires temporarily to give yourself a couple more inches of clearance.
Oh yeah. I had cut it out of the edit but Sue and I was talking about that as well if needed.
wow, I cant believe how much ether your spraying into that thing. you might want to first do some tests on fuel to see if its getting to injector pump and then to see if its getting to injectors.
a great way to blow up a Diesel engine is by spraying lots of ether into the intake.
Like your videos - great fire truck! Best regards from Germany
Thank you so much HAUKE J.
Intro is sick dude! Keep it up
Thank you Fordtuff.
@@PaperBeatsRock for sure man
I'd love to find a front bumper like that
Its not bad but I feel the hose lay in it is a bit small.
Good job Sue!
Thank you
She did all the work!
She did a ton of the work in the cab and she is still after it at this point. In a lot of this I have been under the truck starting to tackle the body mounts and plumbing but im not taking away from how awesome she was.
Could part it out and still make plenty
Oh yeah for sure. That is why I had no problem buying it unknow. Even in a worst case scenario I would still make my money back and then some.
im sure its been said, but i didnt catch it, whats the plans for this truck? - nevermind i found it, puller truck. this could make a really neat camper build too. there is soo much space in the can with all those large chairs removed.
I agree that these would be great for a single person camper. You could easily make the back of the cab into a sleeper and still be able to haul around anything you need to.
That starter is screaming uncle 😂
It did use the safe word so I kept going 😂
She may have a remote start kit on the rear,I ran some same vintage that had them on the enginers panel. You need to have the injection pump overhaul,she sounds nackered and especially since your fuel system looked like ectoplasma lol
Yeah Scott the fuel system really needs to be gone through big time. I dont like how much it took to get running. One of the big down falls of it setting so many years not running.
Watching from South Africa 🇿🇦
Right on Isidore. Thank you
I've spent A Lot of time restoring ol cars. An Rat Piss is like ASID to steel.
Its the worst David. We are lucky that I'm not really finding any wiring chewed on yet.
All those gray 3 conductor cables with the molex plugs are for the strobe lights around the box.
Thats good to know. Thank you Dasvigo.
@@PaperBeatsRock Sorry if that was obvious I did not notice the strobe power supplies shown before you pulled out the console box.
Careful with that either it can become dependent on. it just takes a little squirt. Too much either will break the top rings on the pistons. There are no glow plugs on a dt466e. Plug it in when its cold it will light right off
Your spot on there K. I don't like having to hit her with that much. The fuel system in the truck currently is not at 100%. Here shortly we will be diving into that and I'm sure that's were a lot of our problems are.
Nice dentside Bronco!
Thank you very much Matt. That was my first vehicle. I just got it back up and running a few years ago but it still needs a lot. Like most things its depends on the budget and our current needs. It is a truck that I really want to come back into the shop and build it the way I dream of.
@@PaperBeatsRock I know what you mean, it’s a similar story with my ‘90 Bronco, she’s about halfway there but there’s always more to do!
@@someone9906 thats the truth man.
Oh also cool some fam joined in!
great vid
Thank you Matthew
Great truck, 👍 like others have said " can't wait to see the rebuild and finished truck " also like you! I have an incredible Woman that is not shy doing most mechanical work. Good on you Sue!😉.
TNT, 👌🏻👍✌🏻🤘🌧❄️ 🌬 ☃️🇨🇦.
Thank you so much h.h.legacydiesel. Its amazing to have great people around you. It makes a world of difference.
Enjoying the international videos can't wait for more thanks...
Thank you very much Johnny
Super nice truck
Thank you so much Wilton.
I love the Pac Man tee shirt too
Right on Triple J. I got a few old school TMNT shirts that I rock as well. im a bug sucker for the 80s nostalgia of my childhood.
Good luck 😅
Thanks Thad. I more than need it
its very nice truck
Thank you very much hôpital-mécanique.
There should an electical plug for your block heater somewhere around the front
I will have to look again but I don't think I saw. It does need something though.
SWEET AS
thank you
Deflate the truck tires to help get you more roof clearance when lifting the box
Thanks for the tip. We may end up having to do that.
Can’t wait to see this build content
Thank you Jester
So theres a way you can wire your glow plugs to a switch so you can heat them, that helps a lot.
Also you should NEVER work around rodent droppings without an respirator you can get very sick from this.
I'm a new subscriber all the way from Barbados and loving the content.
Thank you so much Kahlil. Sadly this truck doesn't have glow plugs. I'm pretty sure the fuel system needs a proper look over and fix any problems because its acting like we are losing our prime.
Keep up the good work
Will do sir.
love these vids can't wait to see more as you progress with it
Thank you so much Dan. I love the support.
Adam so glad to see your channel growing and doing awesome. Been a long time subscriber love your old ford dentside truck videos and copart flips take care Adam and merry Christmas Christmas from utah congrats on the success that's awesome well deserved
When I eventually make it to the states I would like to come and help you out with whatever project you're working on for a day 😁
I would love to work on a truck like this!
Thank you so much Chris. If you make it over this way your more than welcome to come on out spend some time in the shop and I can show you some of our lovely area. I need to make my way back over to the UK as well. I have a few mates that I have not seen sense Afghanistan. When we do make that trip across the pond ill make sure to let you know.
@@PaperBeatsRock Adam that would be awesome! 😁👍
Most Fire Trucks come with onboard charger and aux air comp, usually powered by a shoreline (120v) some will use batt power also for compressor thats the buzzing sound from the air compressor
I know we had them in our departments but I'm not finding anything on this truck in the normal spots. Usually its right next to the driver door for them to disconnect before starting.
Sweet rig at a great price brother!
Thank you Crusty. I agree and was blown away at the price I was able to get it.
@@PaperBeatsRock sure thing! Can wait to see what you do with it!
Love ypur channel brother and love this series! Was waiting for an update on this beautiful machine
Thank you so much Ernesto. This is motivating.
A vice grip goes a long way in holding nuts on the other side of anything you’re working on
I'm kicking myself right now. I know that they are but i just space cadet that one and didn't even think of pulling them out.
@5:40 Cook that starter! When you have more money than brains!
Dude. Do some research before you start. This is no Honda
I'm going to subscribe, this looks like it'll be fun to watch.
Thank you so much Joe.
One day I hope I’m in a position to have a garage to do anything in
We got really lucky finding this place 2 years ago. I never would of thought I could have a place like this.
First thought was the pump primer and when you walked around back I was yelling “foam upload!” at my phone.
The pump is a two stage you can either pump in pressure or volume. Might have been answered already.
Unless that engine was stationed in a high elevation (cold) station the ether was probably never hooked up it’s whole life.
Thank you tgafire87. The truck came from The Sierra National Forest. So higher elevation. All i know is that it currently doesn't have a bottle in it.
@@PaperBeatsRock oh yea, I’ve frozen my a-off there fighting fire before.
Love watching the build!
@@tgafire87 I believe it, man. I was on a wildland complex back in the day until November. Started snowing on us and freezing at the end.
you might see if its got a block heater as well that help when below freezing
I will be adding one for sure.
No, you’re awesome and thank you for the great video! Haha
Thank you very much Jacob
.my 7.3 I cycle key 3 times in cold weather . Keep it plugged up .
I wish I had these options. This truck doesn't have glow plugs or a block heater.
The engine sounds like the typical engine that has spent its whole life with ether. They spin over fast and easy but won't kick off and start, this is due to low compression, usually from cracked piston rings. They get cracked from the use off to much ether. However, given the state of the fuel system was in it could also be that the injectors are clogged and not atomising the fuel in a nice spray pattern. Anyway, if and when when you pull the injectors to get them serviced you will be able to do a compression check.
I also have an ex fire engine that was a bucket lift pumper, I purchased it just as a chassis cab, but like yours it had a crazy amount of extra switches and wiring in the cab which took a lot of sorting and removal.
I can imagine you are going to come up against a lot of hurdles in removing that box, lots more wiring and awkward plumbing too. I wish you well with it, I will be avidly following your progress.
David in the UK.
Thank you David. I agree that its mostly likely something with the fuel system do to how nasty things were. We will be diving into that once we get this bed off because its not proper to just let it be that way. Also like you said the wiring and plumbing is something I dread. We have just started to crack into that and its extremely difficult in lots of these tight areas and that also makes it hard to show that on screen. We will just keep cracking on and make it happen.
yes, yes you did...
21:20 all those wires in the gray casings were for the strobe lights if you didn't know it.
Thank you pugmalley. I didn't know but its good to know know. they had removed almost all of them before I got the truck minus the ones on the box. removing all that wiring is going to be fun...
Hey man, great content. Tired of the advice? Haha! Can’t help myself. Turn key on so glow plugs do their work for 19 seconds. Turn key off. Do that 3-4 times. Not a mechanic, just old fire eater!
Thank you so much Rob, and I'm never tired of the advice but I regret not stating that the DT466 in this truck doesn't have glow plugs lol
Glow plug relay …. Goes out on most of the older 7.3 even 6.0 diesels. Virtually impossible to start without starting fluid.
Man i wish this girl had glow plugs. Sadly international didn't put them in the DT466 😓
Wow I hasn’t heard of that before and I’ve driven a few in my day . Btw use WD40 to start it better than ether and see if the injectors are leaking. Might be the fuel pressure. Cool rig either way and those things run forever.
I would think that are cleaners to make the rats mess go away. use the rubber mats as a template for new mats.
yeah Bill I think we are going to end up doing that for now.
yall know they make flashlights with magnets on them right, also cell phones dont make great ones.
haha Yes sir. We just got a flash light sponsor and I'm loving the light they sent us.
Sounds low on compression
We will be pulling the injectors in the future and will be checking compression at the same time.
less is more all about keeping budget light fuction simple yes more on abilty ,fuction lot add ons my bigs are fuel air all kinda fluids lot and lots of additives each system fun cooling or transmission are just if not more so then heat or air conditioning
it sounds like its now primed ,may need to fill fuel filters with fuel , I would also check the glow plugs as well make sure they have power to them
AS I wish this truck had glow plugs. unfortunately, it doesn't. International didn't even put an intake warmer on the DT466 until 2004. We did replace the fuel filters right when we got it running in the video before this but the fuel system was so nasty that I'm sure that's what I'm still fighting with. The injectors probably are super nasty and need to be pulled as well as the whole system checked for leaks.
@@PaperBeatsRock plug the truck in at least 30 minutes before you want to start it and it should start right up
On some old diesels you should pump the "gas" when starting. Not true for all models.
thats true. Back in the day at the fire department we had a 80s ford ambulance with a 6.9 idi in it. We had to keep the peddle mashed to the floor to start it.