The Last of Us Part 3 is Going to Be Insane (Spoilers)
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Hey guys!
So now that we have more information on The Last of Us Part 3 and the direction they're heading in, I wanted to do a video giving my predictions for the final instalment in this franchise. I could be wrong about the details, but I feel very confident about my predictions. Let's dive into it!
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if Ellie does end up being the cure, I'd love to see an epilogue where the cordyceps is cured and humanity is trying to repair itself. maybe from the perspective of an adult JJ, or Lev.
Same! Almost like the Walking Dead comics ending!
Too corny imo, and that makes Ellie and Joel’s relationship falling apart redundant
@@cocob0l0Eh I disagree with your take
@@cocob0l0 i agree, it would feel like it was wrapped up too nicely. naughty dog wouldnt do a "happily ever after" ending, specially cause of how they approached part 2 - killing off joel
Personally society had its chance so I don’t hope for it to be cured
Neil was so smart when deciding to have Ellie raise Jessie's baby. Imagine ellie not being able to look at her son's face without being reminded of the person she got killed by going on that quest of revenge. I think in the third game she needs to overcome her guilt to be the parent that was taken from her
Totally!
Gay
So basically you want part 3 to be The Sims
What? This literally doesn't make any sense.
@@ThatsJustEric how did you get that conclusion from my comment?
I need Ellie to have a near death experience where she sees Joel and tells him she forgives him after becoming a step mom she understands and they fully reconcile.
Yes!
@@pixel8ted the fact they never adressed this bothers me. After becoming a mom and seeing what it was like to have a child she never once said to herself “this is what Joel felt for me”
Near death? I would say she's dead after meeting a doctor who knows how to make a cure, and reuniting with Joel and his daughter.
Spiritually but not physically
@@link12992 That's the point of her arc. She was too focused on how he died that she didn't stop to consider why she lived.
I would love for TLOU3 to be about Ellie finding meaning and worth in her life. Understanding why Joel decided to save her and would do it all over again.
Having her move on towards a better purpose (not sure exactly what). If you’ve seen Vinland Saga season 2, I would love if it went a similar route as that.
I agree, I want her to be able to understand why he did what he did!
Trauma therapy simulator with zombies
Did you not play tlou 2 lol, the ending literally shows that she let Joel's death go.
Thats a movie, not a video game
@@TheBrandonnyou realise you can tell stories in games right? like the game thats being discussed in this very video..
The last of us story has been about Ellie from the start, I can’t see a 3rd game not focusing on Ellie. She’ll learn dying isn’t the only way for her life to have meaning…
I think your pitch for the story was great, I had thought many of the things you pitched myself with Ellie & Abby.
Neil said himself this is the story of Ellie! I've heard some say they think the game will have almost no Ellie in it, but that makes no sense to me either.
@@pixel8ted same here, Ellie is the last of us, there’s zero chance she’s not the playable character for the majority.
the first game was about Joel.... sure we played as Ellie for a chapter but even then it's to show us the impact Joel has had on her. Failing to understand that Part 1 is about Joel is honestly fucking hilarious in the year 2024.
@@pixel8tedtoo bad Neil isn't the only writer for Part 1 (and proved that he doesn't fully understand the nuance brought to the story by Bruce Straley) with how he handled that god awful hbo adaptation.
@@brotherbrod No it was about Ellie. that comes from the creator & director, we played from the perspective of Joel for the majority yes but the overall story was about Ellie’s immunity & being a potential cure for the world, in Neil’s own words he said they were building this new heroine in Ellie & this is her origin story.
Joel was a fundamentally important part of the story, you play through his perspective after all but overall it was Ellie’s story. That comes from Neil so if you have an issue with that take it up with him.
Abby should try and come in peace with Ellie. Kidnapping her wouldn't be too sincere. If Abby is to win Ellie's trust and forgiveness.
That's possible! I could see her coming in thinking the plan is one way, and then it takes a turn, and then she swaps sides due to what the fireflies do!
ELLIE IS THE BAD ONE!!!
@@mr.kwamid-86_43 But it's Abby coming to Ellie. Not the opposite way around.
Why would Abby want or need peace with Ellie or have her trust or forgiveness? She's been over it all long before Ellie.
@@MikeThePole There's still bad blood between them.
I'd like them to make one showing Tommy and Joel's journey from Texas to Boston. Remember in the first one Tommy says he still has nightmares
Yes!
Ellie has no idea that Joel killed Abby's dad. I think they left out that information on purpose so they can bring it up for the 3rd installment. Also, it feels a lot like part 2 was set up for Ellie and Abby to face-off against the rattlers together - but I bet they decided to save that for the 3rd game too (the idea of fighting together I mean)..
Good theories!
Actually Ellie does know....when they were at the theater Ellie says to Abby....I know why you killed Joel....he did what he did for me....Nora told Ellie why Abby came after Joel
@@Gaymergirl69X I thought that too but she thinks its because of what he did to the fireflies. in the commentary Neil Druckman said.. "Ellie doesn't get it" when she says that line. I didn't know about the Nora ting though
God I hope not, Abby needs to stay in that boat at sea and never come back
@@Gaymergirl69XI think Ellie only knows that Abby killed Joel because he took away the only chance at a cure, not because Abby’s dad was the one that Joel killed
Once everything is wrapped up, I'd love to see other completely unrelated stories told within the universe. I think Seattle was evidence that entirely new factions with radically different ideals could easily exist. The universe is so rich and dense, and the possibilities are endless, well beyond the core narrative
Yes!
It's implied that other countries have fallen to the cordyceps, so imagine a game taking place within another country entirely.
@@ADcommenterYes, I would love to know what’s going on in other countries
It’s awesome because despite having seen so many locations and met so many people/factions within these 2 games, there’s still so many people and places that we haven’t met and visited in this world yet. What’s Europe like? Japan? Mexico? While I doubt the series will ever take us there, it’s intriguing to think about
Maybe what could work is a dlc that goes with the game, like left behind, that focuses on Joel and Tommy during early outbreak. That’s if Tommy has a major role in part 3.
As much as I understand your idea of forgiveness, I think Ellie has already forgiven Joel. She was going to give him a chance until he died. And she fulfilled that forgiveness vicariously by sparing Abby. It’s because she’s able to forgive someone like Joel that she’s able to do so with Abby.
That's possible!
My idea is that Abby will find Ellie for the fireflies and the series will end with Ellie making the choice to give her life to make a cure. I never really thought that it made sense that Abby's dad was the only one who can make a cure, there has to be another doctor alive somewhere and maybe the new fireflies found them.
That's possible!
Sometimes you're dat guud that no one else can covah foh you! Let alone get da jerb dun, 🌞
That’s a possible ending however I don’t hope that Ellie would sacrifice herself for the cure since then Joel died for nothing😢
I know that’s what she wanted but I honestly don’t think she’ll ever do that otherwise Joel will have died for nothing along with so many other lives taken
I like this EXCEPT I think they should have ellie chose to sacrifice her life for the cure but then they can do it without killing her. Her life has meaning, I don't think she should die at the end
Ellie calling Joel dad is like the only thing I want out of a 3rd game
Yes!
when Joel died in part two imagine if Ellie just uttered dad right before the killing blow
For real I don't get when people always want to push this bs about Ellie calling Joel dad, it feels like the most unnatural thing ever speaking character-wise and would sound like a dialogue straight out of a poor fanfic
@@semago29 i mean fair but like come on man
@@semago29I agree 100%
If Part 2 is Ellie’s fall, then Part 3 needs to be her rise, and given everything she’s gone through I think it needs to be about her finding her own meaning, for herself.
Maybe similar to K’s character arc in BR2049?
Whatever direction they go, I’m sure it’ll be amazing.
Agreed!
What I think part III will be about:
2 year time jump from TLOU Part II, Ellie is still in the process of redeeming herself and restoring her relationships with other people, Jackson has expanded and has become part of a network of communities in the western United States, who run a large jointed community of settlements, the infected are mostly gone, and the world is slowly recovering, the people, however, aren’t. Ellie has decided to return to Jackson, and after people learn of her immunity, she has become a pariah in her community, Abby and Lev have found the Fireflies, and are working on a cure for the Cordyceps Fungus, learning to make a strain that can kill off those taken by the virus, they are still at war with FEDRA, and have many splinter groups devoted to wiping out their enemies and the infected to solve their problems, rather than restoring the world. A very large splinter group, calling themselves something like the New Precinct or the Settlers have been engaged in a war with FEDRA for a number of years, and have brought the war to places near Jackson, the game is about Jackson and the Fireflies protecting themselves from this ongoing war, the game ends with Ellie and Abby being forced to fight side by side against FEDRA and the Splinter Group, and eventually coming out on top, Ellie faces an injury in a final battle against the leader of the splinter group, and when nearly dying, has a vivid vision of Joel, who she finally forgives, before being healed and sent to a hospital, in the hospital, her blood is used to create a medicine, which is tested on her, removing the cordyceps from her bite wound, and from her brain, Ellie returns to Jackson and many people there have begun to accept her again for her selfless actions to protect them, her relationship with Dina is finally healing and Tommy has been able to recover due to the resources donated by the Fireflies. Time skip to 5 years later, Ellie is back with Dina, and Tommy has repaired his relationship with Maria, The infected have been practically eradicated, as the cure has been released, making people immune, Ellie has also met with Abby, they talk out their differences, and understand that they will never be able to forgive each other, but express regrets for what they put each other through, leaving each other on good terms and with closure, Ellie, Dina, JJ and Tommy visit Joel and Jesse’s grave, and Ellie says some final goodbyes, ultimately expressing that she understands why Joel did what he did, and realizing that she still cared about him, even if she couldn’t excuse his actions, and she understands that he made the decision of the human instinct to protect your child, she carries a now fixed watch with her, and leaves the graveyard with JJ, similar to how Joel was with Sarah, and the game ends with Ellie being happy, being able to live a normal life with her family and friends. The title screen changes from a run down, makeshift home on a street near a relatively empty farm, to a well kept street, with a field of wheat where the field was, and most importantly, people, going about their lives, there can be a rare time where you can see Ellie in the background, just going about her life, she’s happy, living in peace, The End.
Interesting stuff!
To good to be true 😭
Nah sounds gay I got a better idea, in fact I’m gonna work on the story and try and make a deal with naughty dog and see what they think of my story for last of us part 3
Thats actually really good
In the end of TLOU2 Dina moved to Jackson and Ellie left to go find her. I’m not 100% sure how long the time jump from her leaving and her returning is but I’m assuming it’s at least a few weeks or a month. I think that when Ellie finds Dina she will have found someone new and creates a huge conflict because she’s moved on from her, a conflict just like between Mel and Abby. I think If part 3’s main theme is about forgiveness I think that Dina will learn to forgive Ellie.
A Tommy prequel with the falling out of him and Joel with frequent flashbacks to him and Joel would be awesome. Would be cool to see what happened to Ellie or Abby too.
Yes!
We need a prequel to the Last Of Us where we get to see Joel during the days after the outbreak and see him with Tommy and traveling to Boston
Yes!
@@pixel8ted thanks for the heart! ❤️
Yup
IVE BEEN SAYING THAT AND NOBODY EVER LISTENS TO ME
Should call it The Last of Us Survivors
Hear me out. Tommy is the only one left of Joel's family still alive (by blood.) in the first game, Sarah dies, Tommy is helpless to save her. TLOU2, Joel dies, Tommy is helpless to save him. I wouldn't be surprised if TLOU3 started with Tommy and showed him dying.
Not Tommy!
A prequel game where we see Joel and Tommy during the 20 years, during the early stages of the apocalypse, would be insane. A year one game would be cool to see - especially Joel's life after Sarah...
Also, a Tommy solo game would be great! I really wanted a Yara and Lev DLC where we see their time on the island just before they left the island.
I totally think that will happen. Tommy can't really fight anymore, but I think you will play as modern Tommy dealing with the grief of Joel, and seeing flashbacks of his time with Joel and what they did. I think it could be really cool! Either that or they find a way to put that in Part 3, but I think it'll be it's own game.
Tommy was in the army I guess lot of skills adapted to the survival of the fittest in this mad world
Yeah lets play an entire game of a guy that we already know dies. Oh wait, already did that.
Why so many theories hardly ever includes JJ as a central character when it comes to imagine a sequel ? JJ is the full embodiment of the legacy of part II, his name is a fusion of two peoples names incredibly important to the narrative and characters, Joel and Jesse, a kid born not long after real traumatic events for Ellie and Dina, and bearing the initials of the two peoples names they brutally lost : Joel's death, that started the whole bloody quest for revenge, and Jesse's death, who, in the end of this quest is killed as a collateral victim, consequences of this whole vendetta launched in the name of justice. It serves as a demonstration on how Ellie and Dina put a real significance behind the name of JJ and how he embodies the lessons they've learned from their mistakes in going for revenge. Interesting dynamics could emerge between them as he grows, like, how Ellie is going to transmitt her life lessons and experiences to him, how Jesse's death might play a role in Ellie's guilt, raising a son who has no father because of her bloody vendetta in part II.
About forgiveness being the theme of Part III for Ellie, forgiving Joel IS already the story of part II : In the last scene of the entire game, Ellie remembering her last conversation with him is a reflection on how she finally managed to forgive him at the end. It could also foreshadow how Ellie is hoping to potentially try and rebuild her relationships with her loved ones, the hope for Dina to forgive her. She learned the cost of unresolved issues and grief can have. Because what also motivated her rage in part II was that her and Joel were in bad terms when he died. She felt like he died not knowing she still loved and cared for him despite her bitterness regarding his actions. Ellie lost Joel abruptly, and couln't stop it, the way she should have died suddently in part 1 : she now gets what the idea of her dying in an unfair abrupt death did to Joel back then, as she litteraly lived Joel's fear in part II, and has integrated and finally understood why Joel made the choices he did.
In addition, her, as an immune individual, realizing she isn't the solution to the world's problems and doesn't have to bare on her shoulders its salvation in a quest for a cure, is also something she already integrated in the end of part II. In her journal in Santa Barbara, she drew the Rattlers logo, and underneath, wrote : "Scars. Wolves. Fireflies. Fuck all these groups ". Ellie is grouping the Fireflies with other violent factions like slavers or cultists. It's an indication that her view of them has greatly changed during the game. In Part III, we could see her completely reject the ideology of the Fireflies, and also FEDRA. She has realized the futility and hypocrisy of these ideals of another time, and she now refuses to conform to expectations that do not align with her and many peoples' reality.
This is a great point, JJ will probably play a bigger role than expected!
i’ve had similar ideas, abby and ellie would make such a great duo in this way! i love your idea of ellie living to an old age then offering herself over and truly finding her meaning in life is not just to provide a cure! damn there’s so much material for them to work with
Yes there is!
TLOU 3 should be named The Last of us REDEMPTION. Where Ellie joins a gang and roams the west, eventually dying of tuberculosis.
I don’t know where Part III will go, but if I were to venture a guess, this is what I as a fan would see:
Abby and Lev found the Fireflies and have been working with them for a couple of years now. Their numbers have grown and they are trying to find another possibility for a cure to the Cordyseps Virus. Lev accidentally lets it slip about Ellie and the Fireflies demand that Abby help them find her. Abby says “No” because she doesn’t want to open that door again due to the pain it caused her. The Fireflies use Lev as leverage to force Abby into helping them. Lev escapes and decides to persue Abby and get to Jackson in order to warn Ellie. However, Ellie is not in Jackson as she never went back. Ellie couldn’t deal with the pain of losing people she loved anymore, so she went off by herself and now no one knows where she is.
A lesson that Ellie will have to learn is that “Joel gave her a chance to live. So Live!”
Part I: Love
Part II: Hate
Part III: Life
Very good ideas!
Pretty good tbh
I actually don’t hate that
Why is it so hard for people to not call the FUNGUS a virus?
Like everywhere i go i see them call this games' disease a virus
I would love Part III to actually explore events between outbreak and Boston where we play as Tommy in this 20 year gap
Something the show did that would be a very cool feature for the next game was the roots on the ground that alert infected to where you are. Imagine while you’re sneaking around with infected in the room, you have to also watch out for the roots. If you step on one, not only do the infected start attacking you, more infected also come to your location. Obviously not a whole army like in episode 2 of the show but maybe like 4 or 5 extra ones. It would make stealth more engaging then it already is.
They could add a whole new horror element!
That would be cool, but I don’t know how they would introduce this. It wouldn’t really make sense to randomly just have it as a mechanic
It’d be nice to see Tommy’s perspective that was missing in pt 2. And some nice flashbacks of him and Joel when they were younger and even with his daughter would be cool.
Agreed!
I honestly wouldnt like it if the 3rd one dont have anything to do with Ellie, the 3rd one should be with her and not without, ive seen comments that maybe it could be her finding redemption which i would love to see, but id actually like it to be not only that but also Ellie finding out that the fireflies are still very much alive and that more are being recruited, and once she finds that out, thatll be how we would get a start of another adventure in the 3rd game.
That's possible!
Another thing Neil said was that the concept he has, has a through line between the other games. I think that through line is love. Part 1 was the unconditional love between a parent and their child, part 2 was justice/grief for the ones you love. So part 3, whether it is forgiveness or redemption or something else, will connect by love. If it’s forgiveness, maybe it’s a simple as forgiving the ones you love or love allowing forgiveness?
That's very interesting!
Abby and Lev (and maybe an army of Fireflies) march toward Jackson. Maybe Abby finds the logs that the Jackson Scouts leave and discovers Ellie’s motherhood, and that’s what leads her to leave the Fireflies to warn Ellie. I can definitely see her taking shelter in the lodge where she killed Joel and being overwhelmed with regret.
That's possible!
The forgiveness aspect can definitely be painted onto Dina’s forgiveness of Ellie for leaving
Totally!
Doesn't really have the same weight as forgiving murder though does it
Ellie dying of old age and submitting to "research" to find a cure is really freaking brilliant and I hope it absolutely happens.
She gets to live the life Joel wanted for her, and she gets to make her choice!
10:38 you mention about part 3 is where Ellie will learn forgiveness and forgive Joel, but she already forgave him - the moment she's about to drown Abby she has the flashback to Joel on the porch. That is the exact moment she forgave him, and it only made sense to forgive Abby too - hence saving her at the last moment. It's a very powerful moment that often gets overlooked
It's possible! I still feel like there is still a bit more to wrestle through, but maybe I'm wrong!
@@pixel8ted not at all, I just feel like her forgiving Joel and Abby has been done, she didn't say it with her mouth but her actions in letting Abby go 😎 the next story should focus on Ellie finding that purpose (even though she had it with Dina & JJ) - it's a chance to find herself again whilst Abby and lev continue on their journey in less prominence - plenty of flashbacks to Joel and Ellie will be of course welcomed 😎
I want to see how Joel and Tommy survived right after Sarah’s death. I think that could be a great game.
Yes!
WHAT I THINK IS what will happen is that Ellie said before in the first game that she is waiting for her turn because she had many friends that have died because they have been near her so I feel like it’ll be her turn this time, and the story will end with her passing away or maybe her choosing to not live anymore and gets killed by something or someone
That would be tragic!
As soon as I beated the last of us, part two remastered I said “hopefully there will be a third game so they can have a finale to this” and here we are I think what’s gonna happen is that there will be a another chance for a cure
I think so too!
I like the whole forgiveness theme, but I have a different idea for how 3 should go. I think somehow Lev and Dina's baby, JJ ( now older), runs into each other scouting on a route maybe, and help each other and become friends. Then as some time goes on, they both get captured by some group. This pulls back in Ellie and Abbey, and basically makes them work together to save them, out of love for Lev and JJ. Eventually saving them and again going their separate ways. It opens it up for more action, more emotion filled moments, and a true forgiveness scenario. It gives Abbey and Ellie motivation to work as a team, but it'll be rough, because of everything that brought them to the end of part 2. But it also gives them a chance to talk and reveal from their perspectives how their loss and grief affected them. They of course won't part being best buds and will most likely never meet again, but they will have come away with a better understanding and can then possibly heal.
Interesting theory!
It took them 7 years to come out with a sequel for the first game. So if they do the same for part II then we should have part III by 2027
I definitely think it will come at the end of the PS5 life cycle, I think that's why they remastered the other two games for it, so that the trilogy will live on PS5!
I would say it's the 2nd game that's about Ellie's story, but the first game is as much about Joel's story, if not more so and his journey back from losing Sarah and finding it in his heart to love again after all the years that had passed since her murder. It's probably the main reason that the 2nd game hit so hard with so many players. It was never really about the death of Joel, it was about the death of the relationship that had formed between him and Ellie. Players took that journey with both of them and felt part of that bond, it was the feel good factor in all of the violence in the first game and that was taken away in the 2nd game when Joel was murdered. Which is why I guess I felt drained and nothing but emptiness at the end of the 2nd game. It all felt like nothing had been achieved but heartache and grief.
A difficult game to play during Covid because it was devoid of hope.
That's a fair point!
Man, I can’t wait for the third game. Great video and theory, dude!
Thank you!
These predictions let alone gave me cold chills. I hope they create something amazing.
I hope so too!
While I like the idea of the game tackling forgiveness. I just feel like both Abby and Ellie have done way too much damage to one another to ever forgive one another, I think there's a chance they could learn to understand one another but I'm sure if they met again, neither would be in murder mode but neither would want each other around. Both Ellie and Abby would just remind each other of something they want to move on from.
Personally I think the story is going to be about purpose, it's a throughline we've seen through Part I and Part II. In Part I we followed Ellie and her purpose was essentially to die for humanity while playing as Joel who had no purpose at the start of the game and by the end of the game, his purpose became Ellie, he would do anything for that girl and she was his reason to keep going.
In Part II she finds out that Joel killed the fireflies and now her purpose is gone until Joel is killed and her purpose becomes a mission of revenge. Now at the end of Part II, Ellie probably feels very empty and has no clear goal in sight and so I'd imagine Part III will be about finding purpose once again.
I could be wrong but going off the first two games, I feel like this is a pretty good next step for Ellie to take as a character.
Great theories!
I honestly always imagined a TLOU game but it’s an open world. With an offline and online mode and a create ur own character for each. Starts off by getting saved by Joel and Tommy and they take u to camp (Jackson) and from there u explore every poi/ open world/and landscape. And u just do missions taking place a year before Joel’s death...idk if it’s just me but sounds cool either way😭🙌🤷♂️
That could be a cool idea!
The problem with the cure for me is that I cannot see an organization discovering it and not keeping it for themselves to have the edge on everyone who opposes their views on how things should be, essentially making them the world rulers.
But maybe there is a person who doesn't get fully consumed by the power the cure would give them and has enough followers that also don't seek the power to rule the world...
+ the logistics needed in such a world to cure everyone o.O
I just want satisfying endings for all the character arcs in part 3, what happens to tommy will he ever recover mentally and figure things out with Maria, how is Dina handling the situation after the end of part 2, is she okay? I am sure we will get to see what happens to Ellie and if she has learned her lessons from part 2 but I also want closure for the "minor" characters. And if Ellie isn't pleading for forgiveness from the people she has wronged (Dina&JJ) ima lose my mind and say she hasn't really learned a thing (but maybe that’s just me as Dina was one of my favourite side characters in the game).
Does Naughty Dog even do happy/happyish endings for their series?
Uncharted 4 was a great ending!
I want to see a prequel where joel and tommy get to boston, how bill owes joel favors, why tommy has nightmares and why tess says theyre bad people and they have been for a long time. Joel seeing or using the map interrogation tactic and how he knew that one guy aint even hurt when they got to Pittsburgh.
Would love this!
This last of us remix playing in the background is fire
It's so good!
Tommy with a prosthetic to help with his limping setting out to finish the job Ellie couldn't will be awesome!!
Could be crazy!
I do think Ellie will work with Abby to make a cure, but I do not think she will get the long, full life that she wants. I think TLOU as a series will be about sacrifice more than anything at the end of the day, and the throughline between the 3 games will be "It can't be for nothing." Ellie isn't going to let everyone that died to keep her alive die for nothing, and she will fulfill what her life was supposed to do in Part 1.
That's my guess anyways.
I'd be surprised if they undid Joel's wish for her like that, but you never know. It would feel like everything Joel sacrificed was for nothing, but who knows!
when you said the part about ellie and abby forgiving each other i had that thought as well but i really hope they keep ellie and abby alive in the end coz joel dying just broke me for real
Totally!
the final theme should be hope
That could work!
Im going to like and sit on this, for when the next game drops. That way i can come back too, and compare when that time comes.
See you soon! 👍🏽
A long, but good read. Trust me.
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One simple change they could've done to the game to make it resonate more wit players (which is something I think they'll do in part 3 and season 2).
Is that we should've played Abby's side first.
BUT!
It styll happens, but kinda skip over or move around the whole "Abby meets Joel & Tommy in the snow" part.
Start the game wit Abby & co leaving the mansion & going to Seattle & continue up until Abby n Lev sneak into the theater.
(All the while, us getting to learn who these new characters are, how they've been handling the pandemic, BUT not yet show how they link up to our characters, until we get to Abby's backstory and then Ellie's side.)
But do it in a way where we don't kno who it is that's killing all our new friends in Seattle (that we think it's cuz we abandoned the WLF or something).
Then, right BEFORE seeing that we run into Tommy at the theater, we switch to Abby's backstory.
We see that her dad was the one Joel killed.
Now we feel for Abby & everything she went throo.
THEN, we finally get to Ellie's side of the story.
(Yes, it would take quite a while, but this way, not knowing Joel dies yet & knowing what Abby went throo, we actually would feel for Abby.)
Now we play as Ellie's story like normal.
When we get to the mansion, we hear screaming and bust in to see Joel being murdered.
Now we put 2 & 2 together and go
"Ahh! THAT'S why Abby & co. were running away from the mansion in the beginning and tryna get outta there."
Then we go on the hunt for Abby & co.
Now, our emotions for Abby become conflicted wit new disdain for Joel & for some, may jus jump straight to hate for Abby.
And both are fine and perfectly reasonable.
Then, let the story play out how it does.
It would flow better, IMO.
Way better than how they did it.
And the leaks...
(which I never looked at myself.
I jus heard ppl were laughing at a golf club for some reason. Lol
I didn't get it and didn't want to get it at that time.)
...didn't help the game at all, since a lot of ppl knew what happened in the beginning.
But yeh, I personally understand what Naughty Dog was tryna do, I jus think that the way they executed it was backward.
Taking away the option for players to feel diff emotions.
Instead, they jus had everyone pissed as we're forced to play as Abby for half the game, this character who jus offed our main guy from part 1.
The way I would've done it styll gives dramatic reveals, possibly more reveals tbh, and gives the player their own chance to feel whatever way they want to about Abby & Joel, now that we already played her side, got to kno her, went throo trials wit her saving Yara & Lev.
Then, finding out her dad was the surgeon at the end of the last game.
Then, understanding why she wanted to hunt Joel down.
Now that we have the full picture, we can feel and judge the way we want to.
But don't jus take out one of our fav and main characters at the start and force us to play as the killer jus for shock value.
What? Lol
There's a diff way to get the same shock value, like in my version.
Love to see new locations with Ellie’s journey finding someone or something that relates what caused the outbreak & meeting new characters
That could be interesting!
Yeah I'm on board with your idears. We need a fourth game about Joel and Tommy directly after Sahra dies leading up to meeting Tess and Ellie. Full circle.
Everyone is dying for that Tommy game!
Your idea makes most sense to me , but still expect the unexpected
Totally!
I think Ellie has to sacrifice herself for the cure, redeeming herself for the lives she has taken. The Last of Us is really about the last of the old world, Ellie is obsessed with the old world, it would be poetic for her to sacrifice herself for the cure and the better future for JJ
Totally possible!
I have no clue if they would be able to put this into the story, but some sort of siege on Jackson would be sick, whether from the fireflies, infected, or some new group I think it’d be sick
That would be wild!
You know what would be cool twist? A new Immune character, but as villain. And probably a new "Firefly" that Abby rebuild, since she is Dr Jerry's father and with Ellie and probably Tommy as the founding. But this firefly will not be as Marlene which only focused on crusades and rebellions, but it's about building society and community with example of Jackson Community
Another immune character could be cool!
I was also thinking another immune character would be cool, but I didn’t think of them being a villain! That would be interesting to see. I think part 3 will need another antagonist bc Abby is no longer Ellie’s enemy. Should this new character be a male or female, and what age? I don’t think Ellie would pursue a revenge journey again so what would make Ellie want to go after them? What would make them the villain?
I think that you're right. The third theme will be forgiveness, but it will also be, in my opinion, redemption.
I can see that!
I love all your theories! I think all the stuff you said is really awesome. One thing I hope is that Ellie and Abby team up and we get to explore the lower region of the US. And maybe go back to Joel’s old home in Texas? Idk but more exploration across America is something I desperately want!
That could be cool!
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Here's my take:
Part 3 picks up with Abby and Lev, Ellie has finally moved on - she still sees Dina and JJ (but they're not a couple anymore). Ellie is in constant pursuit of Dina's forgiveness very much in the way Joel seeked Ellie's.
Eventually another medical professional shows up who is also capable of creating a vaccine. Abby realises Ellie was the only person and they cross paths again, only this time they become friends. In the end, Ellie gets to finally have the choice of sacrificing herself for humanity.
She can either die at the end In order to make the vaccine or decide screw humanity, we're the real monsters in all of this.
Either way, I'm sure they'll cook something up😊
Whatever they do will be great!
Personally im all for ellie dying but in a way that isnt tragic, it'll be sad but beautiful if she gets to finally make that choice. Maybe she'll meet with Joel in the after life and he can say "baby girl, it just wasn't your time yet" @pixel8ted
the first time I played tlou 2 I noticed the similarities between ellie and abby and always would have loved to them work together as a team so I agree with your idea
It could be cool!
Going off of your theory, a reason why Abby might choose to protect or forgive Ellie is to honor her father. In the 2nd game, Abby no longer has nightmares about the Salt Lake hospital after saving Lev and Yara. This might be a stretch, but I believe that in order for her to forgive herself and come to terms with her father’s death, she needs to do something that he would be proud of. Maybe this could be a chance for her to die, having forgiven herself and being at peace (hypothetically).
That's possible!
I 100% agree, pretty much all your points are completely reasonable and probably will happen. Adding onto the point I have to say I think it will be a mix of forgiveness and acceptance, because Ellie kind must have thought or be thinking she lost Dina and JJ, almost lost Tommy for a fight, lost Joel, and just accepting who she is as a person and the cure, so I think a huge part of it will be forgiveness and then learning to accept, along with accepting Abby dying for her and that people who seem bad maybe aren't fully evil people and have reasons! It's something I would love to see be leaned into, because acceptance scenes are always great and emotional. I also really want to see her accept why exactly Joel did what he did and realizing she would do that for JJ, and understand why he did it, and then forgiving him.
Really interesting!
A possible theory is that we find out Abby is Immune as well. Maybe this could be a major part of the story for part III.
That could be crazy!
I’d like to see a spin off game take place in Japan and it ends with a samurai/survivor going to Korea where he meets up with scientists who believe they can find a vaccine and they heard of a girl in the west that can help, and the samurai is tasked with finding her.
Seeing different places could be cool!
I agree with all that, but what im wondering is if there isnt going to be rage, hate, resentment, revenge, etc then that doesnt give a lot of gameplay? I believe Tommy is going to be in part 3 too. He left angry, and i wanna know whats up.
I mean the first game was about love and still had tons of gameplay, so I think that'll be fine! I'm hoping we get more Tommy in a small spin off with flashbacks of him and Joel.
This is exactly what I was thinking they would do but I'm thinking of a different ending. It's a story of atonement. Joel atone for his sins by caring for and saving Ellie. Now it's Ellie's turn to attone for the thing she did out of grief and love. Abby will find atonement by sacrificing herself for a cure and dying in that effort. Ellie will offer herself up to save humanity. Their sins are atoned for with a sacrifice and then there's finally peace. The perfect closing to a story.
Good theories!
Maybe there are other ways for Ellie to atone? I feel like sacrifice would be a sad end to Ellie’s story. I know Ellie wants her immunity and her life to mean something, however, there’s a high chance she’s not the only one in the world with immunity. For Ellie to sacrifice herself not knowing for sure if there’s others like her would be brave but also a bit foolish in my eyes.
I have a quick question, at 13:25 and 12:20 when did Neil ever said that Ellie’s immunity will be a big part of The Last of Us 3?
I like your ideas! Sounds like fun to play through. Hope we get something similar.
Hoping it's great!
I totally agree. I think the questions of each part are:
1. What will we do for love?
2. What will we do for revenge? (you called this grief)
3. What will we do to forgive?
The real meaning of part II was forgiving
@@giacomorenna822 Says who? Who was forgiven?
@@terranncegilmore that's not the point, but if you Watch the last flashback scene of Ellie and Joel on the balcony you'll understand. I know that all the game is about revenge, but the game isn't that banal
I agree!
Good stuff man.
I don't think Dina is gonna forgive Ellie so soon, which will mean Ellie wandering off for self reflection and is she ready too be a Parent.
On her Travels, she see a Young Boy being attacked by some Infected, Ellie saves the Boy and discovers the Infected she Killed is in-fact the Boys Parents, so now feels she has too take care of the Boy and head back too Dina.
The Newly Formed Fireflies headed by Abbey, heard there was a Young Boy who is Immune from the Virus but the Family has since moved on but a New Doctor has been found that may have an answer too the cure, so Abbey with a Team must Track down the Boy and the Doctor.
Ellie still heading back too Jackson and Protecting the Boy from any Infected and Bandits alike, after one close call encounter with some Infected, she ask the Boy are you ok, he says no I've been bitten, Ellie is about too Shoot the Boy but he says wait i am Immune, Ellie says Bullshit about too Pull the Trigger, the Boy shows are an old Bite Wound, look I've been Bitten before but i haven't Turned, Ellie can see with Tears in her Eyes that she isn't the only Immune Person and right let's get back too Jackson Safely.
Abbey and the Fireflies has found the Doctor and sends a Team too Track down the Boy and his Family, the Team eventually comes across the Boys Infected Parents but no Boy, they continue on where they catch up with a Woman and a Boy, Ellie knows who they are and what they are after, she Kills the Team Protecting the Boy but one of the Team Wounded heads back too Abbey and tells her about the Woman and a Boy who Attacked and Killed the Team.
Abbey now goes after this Woman n Boy, not knowing it's Ellie.
That is just a summary of what Part 3 could be about, I don't think this will happen tho guys lol.
Great theories!
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it would be interesting if ellies immunity slowly started to actually affect her with age, much like how in Logan (the wolverine) his healing powers start to weaken and all his injuries dont heal properly, so in this context all ellies bites slowly manifest into something greater and she becomes what shes been destroying her whole life. It would be really tragic if ellie becomes a 'monster' but also quite interesting.
That could be really interesting!
Does anybody else feel like there might come a time in this game where Ellie is forced to kill Tommy?
I can't see him forgiving Abby... feel like he could even be a little loopy by the time this game begins.
I can't imagine how emotionally wrecking it would be for Tommy to turn into a villain...
Whatever the plan for TLOU3 is, I can't wait for it!!! Also would love to see some spinoff games in this universe. One of the absolute best video game universes ever made. We need more games!!!
Same!
I can see that the fireflies have a doctor who that is trying to finish what abbys dad wanted to do with the cure, but they need abbys dads notes and they also need ellie. Abby appears with lev giving the fireflies hope that she has her dads notes but abby lets them down by letting them know she lost them, but that she knows where ellie is. You go back to the hospital to look for abbys dads notes and you find a secret room in the hospital with all the notes and abby finds a secret file hidding in a small box showing that the chances of the cure working are really really low and thay abbys dad just wanted this to work because he was desperate. At the end abby decides to not to turn ellie up to the fireflies but they threaten abby to kill lev if she doesn't forcing her to give up ellies location. The fireflies give up ellies location causing a huge fight between the fireflies and ellies people. A lot of people die and tommy gets badly hurt. The fireflies find ellie and take her to a hospital close by to perform a surgery on ellies brain. Abby is watching as ellie is about to have her brain dissected and she has a flash back of her father and owen telling her to so the right thing. She loses it and begins killing all surrounding fireflies and she makes her way into the surgery room similar to joel in the last of us 1, instead of killing the doctor she knocks him out and carries ellie off the bed. While almost making it to the elevator abby and lev look back at someone and tell them please don't do this and a shot goes off and the screen goes black. Once the screen comes back abby is driving with ellie in the back seat and she's driving back in a erratic behavior, and the game shows that a surving firefly tries to shoot abby to stop her from taking ellie, but instead lev jumps in the way taking the bullet in his arm and at the same time shoots an arrow through the fireflies head. You then see lev in the front seat bleeding heavly from his gun shot wound. Time passes and you make it back to Jackson, ellie awakens to pissed off that their is no cure, but is suprised to know that she's alive due to abby and lev saving her. She hears about lev and goes to check on him. Lev lost a lot of blood but abby gives him some of her blood to save him. Ellie ask why abby saved her if she killed joel for what she'd just done. Abby tells that in the end of it all joel was right to have saved her because her dad wasn't going to save the world instead he was gonna take an innocent life. She then apologizes to ellie for killing joel and to tommy for letting her anger get the best of her. Ellie forgives her for killing joel and apologized for joel killing her dad to save her. Ellie then offers abby and lev a home in jackson now that they have nowhere to go. Maybe the after credits could be a mob of people receiving orders for a mission only to show the person giving the orders is the doctor who survived is forming an army.
Interesting ideas!
I remember Neil saying that the next game would be ‘its own thing’ that’s going to link all 3.
This makes me think it’s going to be a game in the past. Either Marlene’s story, or Tommy, or even Joel & Tess’s story.
I think there could two concepts also added here. 1)Ellie might not be the only immune, this could be explored alongside how cruel humans can be to achieve a result 2)a cure might not even be achievable and if the cure isn’t even possible how Joel’s decision could affect Ellie after realising this
Both of those are possible!
I don't think they will let us know whether it actually would have worked or not
I think a big theme of the games that has been neglected is loss and grief. These games feel closer to a tragedy (especially part 2). I think it would be uncharacteristic and odd for these games to wrap up so nicely with finding a cure, or for Ellie and Dina to just get back together. I think it would eliminate the suffering that this world tends to constantly have. The characters deserve nice things, but when that’s never happened other than in the small moments which we treasure, it feels odd to me
That's possible!
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Hahaha that would be wild!
Man, how's even possible that I had almost exactly the same idea about the Part III? I don't just think that's what's going to happen. It's what I HOPE to happen, because I'd really love the idea of the forgiveness between Abby and Ellie, and they fighting together. Because the character of Abby deserves better. She's a good girl. And obviously, Ellie too. This is the first time I watch your channel, I've already liked and subscribed, and I'm sure your channel is going to take off. You've done a great analysis, from an intelligent point of view. Best wishes, bro.
Great minds think alike!
Can’t see a bright theme for part 3 because this is a world where bad and senseless events are always around the corner
That's totally possible, but the first theme was pretty bright (but in a Last of Us way)
I wish Joel is still alive for part three
I think we will for sure see him in flashbacks or dreams!
"It's called luck. And it's gonna run out."
"Luck doesn't exist. Everything happens for a reason."
-TLOU Part 3
It'll be interesting to see where it goes!
Interesting theory, and it could be a possibility, but I think the story will be more about redemption. I do think Abby and Ellie will learn to forgive each other. I think somehow Abby is going to travel across the country to bring Ellie back for them to make it cure where they will team up for the majority of the game. I think Abby will live. Ellie will die for the cure (because Ellie will choose to so JJ will have a normal life) Ellie will be on the operating table closes her eyes when they put her under, and she will see Joel and his daughter waiting in the light for her, you will probably hear Joel‘s voice say something like hi kiddo been waiting for you (they will be reunited ) then after the credits, you will see JJ as an adult and the world will be on its way back back to normal because the vaccine worked.
Interesting theories!
My god... That was beautifully put.
@@lorivera94 thank you :)
@@michaeldietz2648 I also cried seeing it in my mind.
My fav theory so far
This is exactly the way I imagined it. It makes the most sense, and a good direction for the story. I imagined Ellie and Abby working together to find the fireflies, so Ellie can finally end her life to restore humanity. This is what Ellie wanted to do in the first place in part 1.
I could see it happening!
One thing you said really struck me. Abbey not being able to rip Ellie from her son which would make her like Joel. She’d become who she hated
My take away from The Last of Us 2 is that she already became Joel (and didn’t seem to have the self reflection to realize it).
Like Joel, she met a kid and found herself willing to kill a LOT of members of a paramilitary group to protect him.
The only difference is Joel killed a bunch of assholes that didn’t care about consent because they felt they didn’t have to so the used force and threats (they fucked around and found out)
Abbey killed even bigger assholes but unlike Joel, she was a Judas. She killed a bunch of her comrades to protect a teenager she didn’t know. (I admire her choice but a more self aware person would empathize with Joel’s position).
Yes I’ve over thought this
Totally!
Tlou3 should be the mourning of Tommy, arguing to Maria about Seattle, taking out Fireflys, rattlers, and infected along the way. And make a 4th game the prequel of Joel and Tommy surviving the outbreak (optional multiplayer story)
Those are interesting ideas!
Hi!
I would love for The Last Of Us 3 to be about how Ellie redeems herself and finds meaning in her life too!💖I hope that Ellie has a great ending and that she gets the ending that she deserves too! I think she is the best character in The Last Of Us franchise alongside Joel and Dina!
I agree, I hope it's a good ending for her!
@@pixel8ted Me too!
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT THE GAME IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 that Ellie finds a purpose to live for instead of ending her life
I think it honours Joel and her own decision!
I dont want nothing deep but ellie learning what joel meant by protecting her by protecting a loved one of her own.
I think that could play a part in it!
think you're pretty bang on for a lot of that. not sure about the cure at the end. but! perhaps it may take that long anyway, as they don't have someone who is skilled enough to create a vaccine that they are aware of. perhaps they will have to be trained/study first anyway.
so if so, perhaps they will go on a quest to find someone with those skills, or find information to give to someone with medical skills. or create a training facility.
im actually anti cure unless they can find a way to do it in a way that is not too cheesy. and i hope it's still different/ moving / sad / heartbreaking a little haha.
also i really hope she is working out things with dina, i suspect she is trying at the time at the end of the 2nd. i really want abby and ellie to team up somehow. and yeah i think that will be fun if they can find common ground but they hate each other at first.
I agree!
Heres an idea Jackson is under threat by a new group and Ellie has to figure out who they are etc meanwhile you go in the psst as a young tommy as he and joel try and survive as hunters and why tommy eventually leaves joel so you have 2 narratives like godfather part 2 and the present story draws parallels to the past story, maybe tommy notices ellie be coming more ruthless and adopting hunter like tactics, eventually you get the ending where ellie realises its wrong to be so ruthless and thst her purpose is to defend her community rather than be the saviour of mankind reconciling with joels decision…i dont wanna see abbey or anymore fireflies rather focus on a new group and this way we can finally have a playable tommy in the last of us series
Great ideas!
God it’s so nice to hear people talk about TLoU 1/2 with out going fucking crazy
Indeed!
They BETTER, make “Ellie” have a Happy Ending. She has Suffered WAY too damn much man. Just let her be at peace. So I HOPE, “Forgiveness” IS, the last Chapter.
I agree!
I have a strong feeling that Ellie and or Abby meets another person who is immune, and they are in conflict with each other because they disagree about sacrificing themselves for the cure
Could be really interesting!
Redemption. For Ellie, Abby and Tommy. Fighting against an enemy of mankind, where they can finally square up with the sins of their pasts
It would be cool!
I was so sad there wasn't a dlc for part 2, like Left Behind. I would have love a dlc about Yara and Lev escaping in the first place. Because if Abbey is going to die and Lev ends up joining Ellie, Abbey's death will hit hard getting to know Lev more than the context clues.
Same!
just watched this and I think that all points made were absolutely amazing. I've seen online a lot of people thinking that Ellie will be dying in this next game however I don't think that's true and I think that it would be really stupid idea for the developers to do that, I feel like many people have a theory that the first person you play as in the next game will be the first person to die (such as with sarah in part one and joel in part two) and I feel like a lot of people think that that's going to be Ellie however I think we might start as Abby on the island with Lev and the fireflies talking about their plan and everything regarding the cure or whatever and I think overall that would make more sense as a place to start because it would also build more intrigue as to where Ellie is as this is her story but I just don't think that Ellie dying in this game would make sense unless it was at the end in a time jump to the future where she's old and she's gone back to the fireflies or whoever is now working on the cure and tells them about how years ago she promised that when she was ready she would sacrifice herself for the cure not only allowing her to live her life as mentioned in this video but also have that purpose that she's always kinda wanted to kinda free herself from that survivors guilt while also living her life but I agree with all the points made and I hope that these things can come to fruition in the next game however we don't know when that'll be or how that's happening but we can remain hopeful for the future as i believe these are really solid points that would make for a really interesting story that i feel would leave a lot of people satisfied with the outcome of this story 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
These are amazing points! i totally agree w all of them, and I REALLY love all the full circle moments we’ll hopefully get to see!
Agreed!
The first game was about love, i agree. The second game was about hate, and vengeance.
So good!
Something could happen to Dina and when Abby finds that out, it makes her feel extremely empathetic towards Ellie which drives the "team up" and the turning away from the fireflies. The firefly doctors could also be prisoners under their new leadership. In the end, the doctors end up being great people and now that they cleared the corrupt side of the fireflies, she feels ready to sacrifice herself.
That's possible!