MLM Mom With A Secret Life... The Murder of Paige Birgfeld

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  • @KendallRae
    @KendallRae  3 года назад +2198

    Please please please with cherries on top sign this for DJ Henry! www.change.org/p/new-york-governor-re-open-dj-henry-s-case?recruiter=842731680&G%3ESearch%3ESAP%3EUS%3ENonBrand%3EBMM&recruited_by_id=a94455a0-e0c0-11e7-9b09-7710141f03bb

    • @donovanosis
      @donovanosis 3 года назад +93

      I will always sign something you ask us to sign. With the amount of work that you put into your videos, it is the least I can do to return the favour. Thank you for always putting so much of yourself into these cases. They are incredibly entertaining, and help so many people!

    • @jenw1335
      @jenw1335 3 года назад +58

      Just signed and donated for DJ’s petition. Thank you for bringing his case to the forefront, Kendall. I hope his family can get some justice.

    • @carolharris8884
      @carolharris8884 3 года назад +21

      I will always support you girl , you are pretty amazing with everything you do .

    • @ladyjustice1829
      @ladyjustice1829 3 года назад +13

      Just signed the petition and I am going to have all my friends and family watch the video and sign the petition. Thank you so much for all the work you do.

    • @mickeyking92
      @mickeyking92 3 года назад +13

      can you do the holly bobo case

  • @deli.rat.
    @deli.rat. 3 года назад +13244

    Victim blaming is disgusting. Sex workers deserve to be safe too.

    • @MF-xg1tf
      @MF-xg1tf 3 года назад +121

      💯

    • @elliec4715
      @elliec4715 3 года назад +57

      Check out My Favorite Murder's newest podcast! they talk about a case in the 70s involving sex workers its crazy

    • @YeahForSure99
      @YeahForSure99 3 года назад +401

      Thats like saying construction workers deserve to be safe too. Yeah they deserve to be safe but when you put yourself into potentially dangerous situations, bad things can happen. Its not victim blaming to say that.

    • @frnk708
      @frnk708 3 года назад +925

      @@YeahForSure99 construction is dangerous because accidents can happen. murdering someone is no accident. I agree that she was in a dangerous line of work but I don't think those 2 can really be compared.

    • @shrike9483
      @shrike9483 3 года назад +369

      - YeahForSure - an accident is different then murder

  • @ayashakeckler5301
    @ayashakeckler5301 3 года назад +16064

    I’ve commented this before but I know you get tons of comments. There is a case that occurred end of 2019 early 2020 only a few hours from me. In Port Clinton Ohio a 14 year old boy (Harley Dilly) went missing and was later found dead in a chimney. It was ruled an accident but if you look into this case you will see a lot of discrepancies in the possibility of what they are saying happened. Please like this so she can see it and possibly cover this case.❤️

    • @itsntamandaitsAMELIA
      @itsntamandaitsAMELIA 3 года назад +357

      Seriously though. The case is totally bizarre!

    • @brittanyholtgreven4106
      @brittanyholtgreven4106 3 года назад +239

      Ohioan here as well I would love her to cover it! Also for an old case I would love her to cover Carrie Culbertson

    • @ayashakeckler5301
      @ayashakeckler5301 3 года назад +138

      Amelia Ann I agree!!! There is just too many things that don’t add up. When I saw the picture of how small the chimney opening was I knew something was way off!

    • @paigelarson9279
      @paigelarson9279 3 года назад +80

      What!? That's mental. Definitely needs to be covered

    • @ayashakeckler5301
      @ayashakeckler5301 3 года назад +134

      Brittany Holtgreven I’m so glad there’s people here who know what case I’m referring too!!! That boy deserves his story to be told and for real justice.❤️

  • @mangafairy7851
    @mangafairy7851 2 года назад +152

    My cousin who was a sex worker was brutally murdered and when the news aired a lot of people in my community basically said she was trash and should have known what she was in for. I got into so many arguments with people trying to defend her but it all felt hopeless. I know this video is old but thank you to everyone in the comments defending sex workers and treating them as a human being. It really means a lot to see people have compassion

    • @deborahabbenante3483
      @deborahabbenante3483 8 месяцев назад +11

      I am so sorry you lost your cousin in this heartbreaking way. Love to you and yours.

    • @Deenurr
      @Deenurr 6 месяцев назад +8

      She didn’t deserve that and you also don’t deserve this either. I’m so sorry for your loss x

    • @lauriem4112
      @lauriem4112 5 месяцев назад +8

      Your cousin didn't deserve to die nor was she trash. I'm sorry for your loss 🙏

    • @Melissa-tw2gp
      @Melissa-tw2gp 5 месяцев назад +5

      That’s disgusting. I’m so sorry for your loss.

    • @michellefrancis7108
      @michellefrancis7108 2 месяца назад

      ❤So sorry for your loss.

  • @Akursedtime
    @Akursedtime 3 года назад +1512

    Sex worker or not. She loved her children, wanted everything for them and was a kind woman and mother. She deserves all the praise and not the scrutiny.

    • @cassidyyy9589
      @cassidyyy9589 2 года назад +16

      @@haweka9007 she didn’t need to? why would she

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 2 года назад +29

      @@haweka9007 I agree. If she needed cash she could (and probably should have) downsized from the house she was in and gotten rid of her live in nanny.

    • @pupleshungry152
      @pupleshungry152 2 года назад +23

      @@NikkiC777 there is a lot of stuff that goes into all of that like for example credit, if her credit was not great there was no way she is getting a different house

    • @aliinwonderland656
      @aliinwonderland656 Год назад +8

      @@pupleshungry152 she could’ve gotten an apartment or even a trailer. She didn’t want to do that.

    • @melodyreyes444
      @melodyreyes444 Год назад +5

      People say she could’ve downsized but they’re not realizing it’s not just her she’s gotta worry about she’s worrying about how her kids are gonna feel having to leave the home they grew up in especially and go live in a trailer cuz that’s what they could get like no people just like to talk down in sex workers because of generations of bullshit spouted by the same patriarchy that made the way for, use, and abuse only to try and be like oh no that’s not me at all that’s filthy meanwhile their hypocrites

  • @babybluecheeks
    @babybluecheeks 3 года назад +5544

    If my children's father ever and I mean ever said that he was going to murder our children, even if in an argument i would leave him in a heartbeat!. Who threatens to murder their children?.

    • @SobrietyandSolace
      @SobrietyandSolace 3 года назад +385

      I wish my mother was like you. Stayed with a defended a man who threatened and tried to kill more than one of us. I’m in a homeless shelter now.

    • @julianarose9149
      @julianarose9149 3 года назад +223

      Little Wolf Taima I’m so sorry! You deserve so much more. Hoping and prayer for you, your siblings, and your future❤️

    • @daniann19_91
      @daniann19_91 3 года назад +17

      100%

    • @danielhartin7680
      @danielhartin7680 3 года назад +43

      We don't even know he said it.

    • @babybluecheeks
      @babybluecheeks 3 года назад +33

      @@danielhartin7680 I believe he said that.

  • @annie_xo
    @annie_xo 3 года назад +3640

    Man I hate MLMs. Nothing more disappointing than being invited to a dinner party or being messaged by an old friend and thinking they want to reconnect with you, only to find out it’s just a sales pitch for some shitty pyramid scheme.

    • @sharcrum
      @sharcrum 3 года назад +16

      What's an mlm?

    • @annie_xo
      @annie_xo 3 года назад +143

      Shar Crum multi level marketing, also called direct sales and more accurately pyramid schemes lol. Some examples are Mary Kay, Younique, Doterra, Amway, Herbalife, Paparazzi etc etc there are lots of them but they’re all the same shit.

    • @Subterranean_sebastian
      @Subterranean_sebastian 3 года назад +242

      Bro I was really confused cuz mlm also means “men loving men”

    • @zookeeps1340
      @zookeeps1340 3 года назад +24

      @@Subterranean_sebastian yeah I was like?????

    • @zookeeps1340
      @zookeeps1340 3 года назад +6

      @@Subterranean_sebastian also taka and mondo

  • @mommylulu2763
    @mommylulu2763 Год назад +50

    I never understood why people are so spiteful against sex workers... you know what everyone I have met in that industry have been the sweetest, most empathetic people I have ever met.

    • @inheritmyshoes9559
      @inheritmyshoes9559 8 месяцев назад +3

      I have had the same experience!

    • @mayajoestar2300
      @mayajoestar2300 4 месяца назад

      It’s sadly just because they’re easy targets for the most part, it can get specific but that honestly depends on the murderer. It’s sickening..

  • @beccac6812
    @beccac6812 3 года назад +739

    Whenever I hear of someone’s body being found years and years later , I think about the POS who killed them and was just walking around living their life . It scares me so much that those people are just out there walking around and we might not even know .

    • @allysaritchey5731
      @allysaritchey5731 2 года назад +30

      Absolutely. Or when I'm driving around somewhere and see a trash bag or something, and wonder. I know it's weird, but it's just something that gives me chills every time I'm driving somewhere, especially back roads.

    • @karleeodin9134
      @karleeodin9134 2 года назад +41

      My mom, Karen Bodine, was murdered in Rochester WA in ,2007. It's unsolved to this day. We are pretty sure we know who did it but we cannot prove it. I live in a small town. I've had to walk my dog past this persons house. I've been behind them in the grocery store...knowing this is the person that most likely murdered my mom, and j can't do anything about it, and the town doesn't seem to mind that there's a killer walking freely...

    • @sarahferguson3732
      @sarahferguson3732 2 года назад +15

      @@karleeodin9134That would be SOOOO incredibly to have to live with. I’m sorry you have to deal with this, blessings huni 💫💜

    • @beccac6812
      @beccac6812 2 года назад +14

      @@karleeodin9134 I’m so sorry for your loss and that justice has not been served

    • @meganjansen8232
      @meganjansen8232 2 года назад +7

      There’s a statistic somewhere that every human walks past 5 murderers in their life

  • @kaitlensmith9419
    @kaitlensmith9419 3 года назад +3077

    It always astounds me that people don't discuss major life choices like children before they get married...

    • @ifiwsaflowridbearose
      @ifiwsaflowridbearose 3 года назад +193

      Really tho.. I went into my relationship fully aware my bf wants kids while being iffy about it myself (depression issues). I now have two and love them to death. People, please talk these things out. Do not go through life expecting your partner just to go along with whatever you want.

    • @alayahwatson1778
      @alayahwatson1778 3 года назад +36

      sometimes they don't even be meaning to make them and they are forced into that parenthood

    • @limemayo1741
      @limemayo1741 3 года назад +181

      The thing I hate the most is when you tell someone that you don’t want to have kids and their respond is “oh you’ll change your mind later” 😒🙄

    • @Thurston86
      @Thurston86 3 года назад +49

      Janet YES!! I have been hearing that all of my adult life. Luckily, my husband is on the same page. However, that doesn’t stop other people (including those who don’t even know me well) from saying it.

    • @anon0268
      @anon0268 3 года назад +23

      Maybe they did talk about it, but he probably said something along the lines of "yeah, we'll have kids eventually. But first, let's enjoy each other's company."
      And then once they were married, he realized that he wasn't ready for that kind of responsibility.
      That's just something I thought about, though.

  • @-leezha-
    @-leezha- 3 года назад +2892

    GUYS A TIP FOR THE CHARITY VIDS:
    Watch them in a separate tab on a computer and put them in a Playlist, and have the repeat option on and just let them play for a while on mute!

    • @KendallRae
      @KendallRae  3 года назад +397

      Thank you!!!!!

    • @-leezha-
      @-leezha- 3 года назад +39

      Kendall Rae of course!!

    • @skylerricketts7392
      @skylerricketts7392 3 года назад +19

      I was totally thinking about this! I love this!

    • @skylerricketts7392
      @skylerricketts7392 3 года назад +97

      I made one if anyone wants to do this:
      ruclips.net/p/PLw2MvSloZjXMiPPXdNQZLOldRZ69T7GTq

    • @jamiedelatorre1908
      @jamiedelatorre1908 3 года назад +50

      Also you can make the video faster so you can watch through more!

  • @adrihanaharajuku
    @adrihanaharajuku 3 года назад +1556

    Your the first RUclipsr that I’ve seen put awareness and donations towards murdered and missing indigenous women, thank you so much for doing that, you earned my subscribe button 💖

    • @Jaggededge112
      @Jaggededge112 3 года назад +2

      Have you heard the stolen sisters podcast on Kirstie skyes channel?

    • @isabellind1292
      @isabellind1292 2 года назад +8

      More awareness has to be brought to domestic violence within indigenous communities. In Canada, indigenous women are three times more likely than caucasians to suffer from physical violence in their own homes but this is not addressed either.

    • @Jaggededge112
      @Jaggededge112 2 года назад +10

      @@isabellind1292 it should be. I don’t understand why indigenous women get treated like they don’t matter. They most certainly do matter!

    • @susanhodgson25
      @susanhodgson25 2 года назад +5

      I agree with you @Adrihanas StorySessh - its a beautiful generous act and shows how seriously & deeply Kendall feels about the people she is reporting on! Absolute respect from me! A true example of "putting your money where your mouth is"! Thank you Kendal. I hope other RUclips crime reporters follow your example! I will put your DJ Henry RUclips on loop and just let it keep running! 😀 I have signed this petition and every other one you have asked us to do.

    • @MoriacMumma7
      @MoriacMumma7 Год назад +1

      @@ruger2185 wow! It amazes me how some people can find misery & ulterior motives in anything & everything that is generous or positive. U sound like my ex.

  • @tiffanyloccisano8408
    @tiffanyloccisano8408 2 года назад +1180

    Being an escort, stripper, whatever, does not make anyone less of a person. Yes it's a dangerous business but she did it for her kids and that make her a great mother. Period.
    I'm glad she got justice!

    • @theequeen637
      @theequeen637 2 года назад +33

      For sure! I'm sure it wasn't her ideal "career" but she had to do what she had to make tons of cash to care for her 3 kids. I'm glad she also outsourced to work in other things. She sounds like a hard worker and amazing mother.

    • @abizek9342
      @abizek9342 2 года назад +39

      I wouldn't imagine my husband to do sex work, and then sleep with me, bleh

    • @hollystiener16
      @hollystiener16 2 года назад +33

      @@theequeen637 IDK she had a full time nanny. She could've done other things at that point other than being an "escort".

    • @navreetkaursidhu5042
      @navreetkaursidhu5042 2 года назад +19

      Ofcourse it doesn't make her any less human. She wasn't out hurting anybody, she was providing for her kids and living her life. I don't even understand how people can treat sex workers like they aren't worthy of a normal human life.

    • @robinmccoy1411
      @robinmccoy1411 2 года назад +2

      It got her murdered! How'd that work out for her and her children?

  • @bluejean445
    @bluejean445 3 года назад +2421

    I can't imagine a friend coming to me saying they dont feel safe and just "brushing it off". Ask questions "why do you think you are unsafe?" "What makes you feel that way?" CHECK ON YOUR FRIENDS EVERYONE!!!!!! This stuff is real!!!

    • @julias2855
      @julias2855 3 года назад +31

      Yes!
      I have gotten involved. My husband got teed off. But he always gets involved too & is very helpful.
      When people say they feel unsafe, take it seriously.

    • @urmomisatmyhouse
      @urmomisatmyhouse 3 года назад +22

      YES THANK YOU!! She says so many ppl just brush it off whenever someone says that but I don't understand that!

    • @erikaperez7650
      @erikaperez7650 3 года назад +12

      Thank you I thought the same thing. I would never have blown that off.

    • @williss1192
      @williss1192 3 года назад +13

      Klingy Kittens My thoughts exactly. I guess people are too comfortable and think dangers are far away from them

    • @bunnyfeng4635
      @bunnyfeng4635 3 года назад +13

      I wouldn't leave my friend's side if they said they felt unsafe.

  • @MelancholyArmy
    @MelancholyArmy 3 года назад +765

    Kendall I am a 24 year old black woman that has been watching you since I was a teenager. Thank you so much for still bringing attention to DJ Henry. He deserved so much better.

  • @malisahalloran
    @malisahalloran 2 года назад +265

    This is why women feel pressured to say yes. There’s the very real possibility of something happening to you if you say no.
    It’s not consensual if no is not an option

    • @savannahskatzes8701
      @savannahskatzes8701 2 года назад +1

      No is always an option yes you run the risk of being murdered but no is always an option

    • @whatevezzz
      @whatevezzz 2 года назад +7

      @@savannahskatzes8701 not really, these freaks might just murder you and rape your corpse. You really can't win.

    • @babyturkey8342
      @babyturkey8342 2 года назад +10

      Another time I made a post on Facebook talking about my boyfriend who'd recently died and some pervert commented that "sad girls are sexy" and then messaged me. I said "no thanks I'm still grieving" and he proceeded to call me a disgusting fat pig lol oh ok

    • @bm-ww8kb
      @bm-ww8kb Год назад +1

      @@maritzamcgill4972 you dont seem to know where u stand at all lol

  • @sammy1396
    @sammy1396 Год назад +25

    No line of work should make any reason or excuse for being murdered. Poor woman. Some people are truly evil!

  • @daisy4994
    @daisy4994 3 года назад +2227

    Your dog in the background was being too cute... she was sleep walking and moving her paws🥺🥺

    • @biancafaugno6964
      @biancafaugno6964 3 года назад +45

      This is the comment I was looking for!! I knew I could not have been the only one that noticed!!

    • @shareewilliams1124
      @shareewilliams1124 3 года назад +21

      Aww was she I missed it. I luv when dogs do that🤗

    • @poisonousjinx9823
      @poisonousjinx9823 3 года назад +19

      She was dreaming 😊

    • @sxnny2315
      @sxnny2315 3 года назад +10

      Daisy my cat will do it sometimes and just 🥰

    • @trufamilybromontqc
      @trufamilybromontqc 3 года назад +1

      the have a new dog ?
      shes has a pyrenees?right

  • @riochime386
    @riochime386 3 года назад +2152

    What type of friends brush off when someone says “I feel worried about my safety..” nah they are not true friends.

    • @user-qm8gt8lf7l
      @user-qm8gt8lf7l 3 года назад +4

      @W Zee what the hell is wrong with u....

    • @carolynmanno311
      @carolynmanno311 3 года назад +31

      That sad that her friends didnt listen to her cry for help shame on them

    • @xxx-not666
      @xxx-not666 3 года назад +34

      In that line of work, she should have had someone she can call each time she is about to meet someone (give the address to them and name of John she's meeting), and right after the meeting is over and make sure she is safe.

    • @antiduckable
      @antiduckable 3 года назад +28

      They didn't brush her off at all, they reassured her, what else were they supposed to do?

    • @jessicah3450
      @jessicah3450 3 года назад +30

      You'd be surprised how friends scatter like ants when shit in your life actually hits the fan.

  • @maamyesmaam321
    @maamyesmaam321 3 года назад +151

    I’ll never understand what possesses a person to hurt people who have never done anything to them. Just sick

  • @WonderWhom
    @WonderWhom 2 года назад +168

    This devasted the sex work community, absolutely crushed everyone because, like you said, she was so loved and adored. The heartbreak lingers to this day.

    • @navreetkaursidhu5042
      @navreetkaursidhu5042 2 года назад +14

      And people need to understand that sex workers are as much human as anybody else and they have every right to say no to a client they don't want.

    • @stormyweather8798
      @stormyweather8798 Год назад +2

      Devastated.

  • @aliciawistrand2014
    @aliciawistrand2014 3 года назад +1679

    My dad was murdered when I was 2 in flint, mi. My dad had gotten really bad into drugs. He was beat to a pulp with a crow bar then the killer got in my dads vehicle and ran him over 4 times then ditched his car down the road.
    Never received justice. It was so unfortunate bc my mom believed many people witnessed it but refused to speak up. Unfortunately my mom died two years later of breast cancer when I was 4. She kept a journal after my dads death and I truly believe she died bc she was so heart broken. I don’t think she would have ever gotten over it. Just still really unfortunate he will never receive justice. It seems like when a murder involves drugs or sex work or taboo things people feel like it isn’t as important. Nobody knows that my dad was the best father and he raised two extra children as his own that weren’t. He was such a good husband and dad but unfortunately addiction took his life over.

    • @aquariusmoon8648
      @aquariusmoon8648 3 года назад +37

      ❤❤❤🙏

    • @martha06
      @martha06 3 года назад +65

      I’m so sorry for you loss ❤️

    • @erinsteiner3237
      @erinsteiner3237 3 года назад +70

      I’m so so so sorry for your losses. Is there anyway we could start a petition to get it reopened? This is terrible :(

    • @janedoex1398
      @janedoex1398 3 года назад +45

      It's so sad to hear that. Addicts are human too and not everyone goes around commuting crimes ! But people like to put others into categories they see fit .

    • @aliciawistrand2014
      @aliciawistrand2014 3 года назад +25

      erin steiner crime stoppers did run an article on it about a year ago in hopes that someone would finally speak up but nobody did. Thank you so much for your suggestion tho.

  • @Jess-lf2fe
    @Jess-lf2fe 3 года назад +1839

    Why didn't the nanny suspect something may be wrong, when she didn't return home Thursday through Saturday?! 🤔🕵

    • @user-vs5jg2bg3q
      @user-vs5jg2bg3q 3 года назад +173

      Jessica Walsh i would bet she either assumed she was with ron and was like,, vibin or was ised to her not coming home for a few days bc shes an escort

    • @TayTay33
      @TayTay33 3 года назад +83

      I wondered that too. She was a very devoted mother. I would think she is someone who would check on her kids consistently when she was not with them and would let the nanny know if she was going to be away for a prolonged amount of time.

    • @mrsp7481
      @mrsp7481 3 года назад +41

      I was looking for this comment. I was wondering why the nanny wouldn't ring police but then thought maybe it was normal? I dunno

    • @modestferala1488
      @modestferala1488 3 года назад +33

      I believe this had happened before so the nanny wasn’t really alarmed. Maybe if more days went without a trace of her she would’ve said something.

    • @Jess-lf2fe
      @Jess-lf2fe 3 года назад +18

      You all are probably right. So sad. I'm sure the nanny lives with regret.

  • @queenlegitimate5015
    @queenlegitimate5015 2 года назад +94

    As a former sex worker, I so appreciate the respect and dignity you still gave telling Paige's story. Sex workers are still people and deserve the same consideration as the next person. Thank you for always being an ALLY to ALL Kendall❤

  • @debbierobinsonakad.s.robso6298
    @debbierobinsonakad.s.robso6298 2 года назад +73

    I lost my Mom a few years ago, it never goes away, I feel for these kids, they didn't deserve that and neither did she.

  • @glizzionwannatalk7871
    @glizzionwannatalk7871 3 года назад +3296

    i hate when they have dogs helicopters and big search parties and years later one hiker finds the body😐🤦🏽‍♀️ is it me or does like almost every case happen that way

    • @irisjuliete8057
      @irisjuliete8057 3 года назад +526

      It’s like that saying when you are looking for something you can never find it but when you stop looking all of a sudden it’s right there. But yeah I get what you mean they do always have these large search parties and then nothing turns up, really frustrating.

    • @bmd4414
      @bmd4414 3 года назад +120

      What's a dog helicopter?

    • @christinagrace7455
      @christinagrace7455 3 года назад +235

      Glizz it’s actually believed that he buried her and that the large amounts of rain we had that year and because where her remains where found was in a gully/wash way of sorts that the ground was washed away and exposed them.

    • @charleslebowski8878
      @charleslebowski8878 3 года назад +43

      B MD Dogs and Helicopters.

    • @makenzieperry1490
      @makenzieperry1490 3 года назад +132

      B MD You know exactly what her comment meant, no need to be a smart ass.

  • @collegegrad2955
    @collegegrad2955 3 года назад +5374

    Thank you Kendall for being a great ally for black,indigenous, Hispanic communities.

    • @michelleiturbide8472
      @michelleiturbide8472 3 года назад +59

      I know! She’s great!

    • @vermontmom4232
      @vermontmom4232 3 года назад +35

      She is awesome. 💞

    • @arielg6167
      @arielg6167 3 года назад +9

      🙌🙌🙌💕

    • @evelynjaime9238
      @evelynjaime9238 3 года назад +57

      girl off topic but you’re absolutely stunning!!! and yes!!! i’m so glad i found kendall because she’s such a great, genuine person(((:

    • @collegegrad2955
      @collegegrad2955 3 года назад +8

      @@evelynjaime9238 thank you!

  • @AnalystManIssac
    @AnalystManIssac 10 месяцев назад +13

    For those of you who are curious about Paige’s kids, eventually, they were return to their father. And it seems like they have a good relationship with him.

  • @sheltertwo7957
    @sheltertwo7957 2 года назад +103

    Thank you for treating cases involving sex workers with care & respect. As a sex worker myself, it means so much. The fact that you even referred to us as sex workers & not “prostitutes” speaks for itself.

    • @QueerFrogRabbit
      @QueerFrogRabbit 2 года назад +6

      Oldest occupation in the world! Why it's so taboo is absolutely ridiculous.

    • @amym5114
      @amym5114 Год назад +1

      Thank you for sharing! No shame! You do you! And obviously be as safe as you can!

    • @Lmcv82
      @Lmcv82 Год назад +6

      Sex work is work.

    • @amym5114
      @amym5114 Год назад +4

      @@Lmcv82 damn straight!!!!

    • @Drbyage60
      @Drbyage60 Год назад

      Yes, but I found it interesting that the host used "fuck" to describe the murderer but did not use the term "fuck" workers or "fuck" services. Say it for what it is. Oh, how PC and tolerable we are. Humans judge. Even the host judged.

  • @Jenny_thebeaglemom
    @Jenny_thebeaglemom 3 года назад +2488

    You know a person gives off a super bad vibe when someone in the sex industry says they are creeped out by them. Those people deal with creeps everyday so when they say, “nah hard pass” you know it’s bad.

    • @konjurekatrina
      @konjurekatrina 3 года назад +160

      Escorts have a much lower tolerance for weirdos that the average woman. They generally screen their clients thoroughly. At least that’s what a friend of mine who was an escort in the late 90’s-Early 2000’s told me. She turned way more guys than she ever ended up seeing. Girls who are Street Walkers and/or have pimps don’t have the luxury of turning down very many potential clients.

    • @PlatigirlCece
      @PlatigirlCece 2 года назад +9

      5 months ago but just wanted to say girl that tan looks amazing on u
      if not a tan fammm

    • @Jenny_thebeaglemom
      @Jenny_thebeaglemom 2 года назад +4

      @@PlatigirlCece haha thanks! I’m actually naturally tan somehow

    • @PlatigirlCece
      @PlatigirlCece 2 года назад +5

      @@Jenny_thebeaglemom well u got really nice golden skin!!!!

    • @r0ckymarie
      @r0ckymarie 2 года назад +56

      @@konjurekatrina you are 100% correct. Those of us that have the “luxury” to turn down clients and screen them properly, turn away way more than we see. I can tell by their first message how things are going to go.

  • @EpicPandy
    @EpicPandy 3 года назад +1502

    When you talk about Vanessa PLEASE talk about women in the military in general. Look into it. So many of these “suicides” are women who reported sexual harassment and then WERE KILLED. The military covers it all up and they never get justice and families never get answers!! Look into it!! I can even recommend a good podcast 🥺

    • @amandapanda251
      @amandapanda251 3 года назад +75

      Yes!! Like the Lavena Johnson case, so many women in the military are murdered and they cover it up by saying it’s a suicide!

    • @janeygotaknife
      @janeygotaknife 3 года назад +15

      That is scary and sad

    • @tay6099
      @tay6099 3 года назад +41

      Yes !!!! It’s such a big issue. When I was younger I watched the movie (The Generals Daughter) and it stuck with me all these years. It’s mind blowing that women experience this type of shit at all. But to sign up to serve your country and the “hero’s” fight next to you rape and murder you. What the actual fuck. Obviously there are so many that defend our country and stay really good people. But there’s also people that a little different and once they start killing the line between right and wrong gets majorly blurred.

    • @glow9303
      @glow9303 3 года назад +12

      Yes!!! I was saying vanessa is already getting so much coverage maybe she could look into other unsolved murders of women in the military. There are dozens of cases that everyone just forgot about :(

    • @lisad5177
      @lisad5177 3 года назад +5

      She said on Twitter she’s going to make a video about it when more information arises but she plans to!

  • @adeline5902
    @adeline5902 2 года назад +26

    Dudes reputation was only shattered when the financial situation turned sour, not the abuse charges lmao
    Sounds about right

  • @pixelatedponies
    @pixelatedponies 2 года назад +26

    "It's a Multi Level Marketing... something" I think scheme is the word you're looking for

  • @reginamachamer821
    @reginamachamer821 3 года назад +2334

    Omg 🤦 I was getting soooo confused by "Ron" and "Rob", I appreciate that you kept mentioning whether they were the first or second husband.

    • @katekirbs24
      @katekirbs24 3 года назад +13

      Omg me too lol

    • @heysaucemikehere1804
      @heysaucemikehere1804 3 года назад +25

      Kyla Lambalot sometimes I hear rob and sometimes I hear Ron (when she’s talking about the same person lol) like at 4:28 I’m almost positive she says Ron, and a few times right after but at 5:04 I hear rob

    • @reanbeanc3762
      @reanbeanc3762 3 года назад +2

      Me too haha

    • @SharlenesJourney
      @SharlenesJourney 3 года назад +2

      Same I was so confused lol😭

    • @emmaearthling444
      @emmaearthling444 3 года назад +2

      Same

  • @shannondaylie563
    @shannondaylie563 3 года назад +2061

    I'm using the rest of my data (which means giving up music for the 2 hour drive home) to watch this vid while camping... Dedication ;)

    • @KendallRae
      @KendallRae  3 года назад +332

      Omg thanks Shannon! Be safe 🏕

    • @brookemckinley5709
      @brookemckinley5709 3 года назад +27

      100% worth it!!

    • @wafflekiwi7085
      @wafflekiwi7085 3 года назад +17

      I'm also camping!

    • @Jessiegwendolyn1998
      @Jessiegwendolyn1998 3 года назад +26

      Do you use Spotify? I love it cause you can download playlists!

    • @melodymachado6193
      @melodymachado6193 3 года назад +29

      Idk what phone company you have but you can totally take your phone to at&t and switch to the prepaid plan for unlimited everything for like $60 bucks a month or something like that

  • @jacquieturrell9931
    @jacquieturrell9931 2 года назад +41

    She loved and cared for her kids was a lovely friendly person. Didn’t deserve to die the way she did. Feel so sorry for her family and children

  • @isabellawestbrooks6733
    @isabellawestbrooks6733 10 месяцев назад +28

    Okay but can we talk about how awesome she is! She was a successful escort, MLM rep, made products for nursing mothers and raised 3 kids on her own. AND SHE CALLED THE COPS ON HER ABUSER! She did not deserve this at all.

  • @punkrocksmidge
    @punkrocksmidge 3 года назад +994

    Man, the whole Ron/Rob thing was confusing. I forgot who was whom about 30 times lol.😝

    • @samiaramzy74
      @samiaramzy74 3 года назад +12

      Samantha same lmao

    • @allyowl
      @allyowl 3 года назад +43

      I somehow thought they were both called Ron until half way through 😆

    • @clarissao4
      @clarissao4 3 года назад +15

      She did call Rob, Ron a couple of times

    • @juju-be4279
      @juju-be4279 3 года назад +2

      She switched them up a few time😭

    • @mindydiaz9015
      @mindydiaz9015 3 года назад +6

      Me too. I was thinking I wish she said first husband second husband

  • @tbmdd
    @tbmdd 3 года назад +468

    I have a single mom and growing up I would always get worried if she was even 30 minutes late to get home or didn't answer her phone for a couple hours. I can't imagine being those kids and having their mother not answer and not even come home. Sad.

    • @jasmineali8540
      @jasmineali8540 3 года назад +3

      😢

    • @AllTheCloudsArePink
      @AllTheCloudsArePink 3 года назад +1

    • @Sayali312
      @Sayali312 3 года назад +3

      My moms also a single mom, and worked night shifts. If she didn't come home on time I'd check on life 360 and it would show me where she was. Usually she either had to stay late of went out with friends and forgot to tell me.

    • @courtneymichelle5746
      @courtneymichelle5746 3 года назад +3

      I always just got used to my mom being late and she hates phones and barely answers (single or not but she is now married)😕 i would feel awful if I didn’t notice because of that.

    • @thatkidliv
      @thatkidliv 3 года назад +6

      same. i would call her constantly if she was late coming home. i was always so worried i would loose her. i cannot ever imagine.

  • @yvetteaguirre444
    @yvetteaguirre444 2 года назад +10

    Can you imagine being so young, knowing your mom is probably dead and not having found her body for years later? 🥺 having to change locations from your home to your uncle’s to your dad’s and all you want is your mom? 🥺🥺🥺 my heart breaks. 😔

  • @sierrajaxson6917
    @sierrajaxson6917 3 года назад +31

    I remember reading about this on unsolved mysteries somewhere. I'm so glad the case was solved and she got justice. poor beautiful lady and her poor babies

  • @itsjessimaee
    @itsjessimaee 3 года назад +914

    As soon as you introduce Lucy. My dog Lucy walks in and her ears perked up because she heard her name and was looking around for you who said it 😂

    • @luciekiss1618
      @luciekiss1618 3 года назад +11

      So many dogs are named Lucy and that’s my name I find it so funny

    • @loveforeignaccents
      @loveforeignaccents 3 года назад +3

      Too cute!

    • @amandamc6569
      @amandamc6569 3 года назад +2

      Awwww hi hunni!!!!!!!!!!

    • @itsjessimaee
      @itsjessimaee 3 года назад +2

      Lucy says hello to ya'll! 😊

    • @taisvv1284
      @taisvv1284 3 года назад +3

      My dogs is Lucy, I named her because I love the Beatles and the song "Lucy in the sky with diamonds"

  • @nicnat3573
    @nicnat3573 3 года назад +3466

    She did everything she could to take care of her children. I would never judge someone who works hard for their children. That’s love right there

  • @jowilliams3992
    @jowilliams3992 2 года назад +5

    No one should judge what she did for a living to support her family. So sad for them

  • @nicolelax123
    @nicolelax123 3 года назад +19

    Lester pretended to be a different person since she wouldn't work with him and got a burner etc to lure her somewhere.. sick smh

  • @emilyburkholder
    @emilyburkholder 3 года назад +358

    it’s SO frustrating how it took YEARS to find her body. god i can’t imagine what it was like to be her children, wondering why their mom never came home. so sad.

  • @Kennyken6166
    @Kennyken6166 3 года назад +2821

    As a fellow sex worker, this case breaks my heart. Sex work doesn’t make someone a bad person, she sounds like she was an amazing person and made a positive impact on so many lives.

    • @alvaimvu4854
      @alvaimvu4854 3 года назад +40

      Do you enjoy it?I respect sex workers but I don’t get it why not just follow your dreams.

    • @FortuitousOwl
      @FortuitousOwl 3 года назад +232

      ALVA IMVU because in the society we live in money is required to live, and sex work gets lots of money lol also people genuinely enjoy doing sex work it’s not like this shameful secret

    • @breakfastattiffanys741
      @breakfastattiffanys741 3 года назад +40

      So many lives, ewwwww hahaha

    • @FortuitousOwl
      @FortuitousOwl 3 года назад +99

      Moon Fae fuck off the woman is dead

    • @murdermysterymissing8044
      @murdermysterymissing8044 3 года назад +46

      @@alvaimvu4854 Some women just find it an easy way to provide a good life to their kids.

  • @melissamarcelin4000
    @melissamarcelin4000 2 года назад +7

    When do abusers EVER admit to their abusive ways??? It’s never them😒😒😒

  • @robynmoxham4255
    @robynmoxham4255 2 года назад +18

    How heartbreaking. I’m glad he was brought to justice. I feel so bad for her children. And by the way, thank you for rescuing. Your sweet Lucy is beautiful ❤️💞🐾

  • @katemaloney4296
    @katemaloney4296 3 года назад +5103

    Woman: I got married because I really want children more than life itself! Let's start right away!
    Man: I got married so I can be with only you. Let's put kids off indefinitely.
    Me: THIS is something you discuss BEFORE you tie the knot.

    • @DaturaNodana
      @DaturaNodana 3 года назад +322

      right!? like I don't get that. How does that not come up at all??

    • @GoldSkye
      @GoldSkye 3 года назад +25

      Absolutely

    • @JCPatrick
      @JCPatrick 3 года назад +122

      I personally know someone that just wanted kids so badly (she was nearing mid 30’s and this was all she talked about). She eventually met some guy online and it was more of a sexual relationship for him. They started dating & then broke up after a few months. She went to his house soon after they broke up and he wouldn’t let her in, found out he was already banging other girls and had one at his house that day she showed up.
      Anyways, she got pregnant (on purpose) they got married and after she got 2 kids from him, they got a divorce. She’s now trying to get me to go and hang out & reconnect but nah, I’m ok (bc she’s a shitty, selfish person).

    • @br5632
      @br5632 3 года назад +38

      They were young weren't they? Seems like an innocent mistake

    • @squidward9155
      @squidward9155 3 года назад +63

      Exactly!! Like this is MARRIAGE I’m only 17 and I know nothing about marriage but shouldn’t y’all maybe talk about that first?

  • @malyssagonzales-long6735
    @malyssagonzales-long6735 3 года назад +229

    I would never victim shame. She didn’t deserve this type of ending. Those poor children, it’s so sad.

    • @MentalHealthMonday
      @MentalHealthMonday 3 года назад +2

      Exactly! Nobody deserves to be murdered. She was doing what she could for the kids.

  • @shoshonono81
    @shoshonono81 2 года назад +5

    But like, if kids were so important to her, why didnt she talk to her first husband about it before GETTING MARRIED

  • @Lindsayivyrose
    @Lindsayivyrose 5 месяцев назад +6

    First time watcher. I LOVE that you donate to causes! What a cool way to give back! Go you! ❤

  • @sarahsan4882
    @sarahsan4882 3 года назад +3736

    Kendall : start talking 👱🏼‍♀️
    Every pet that is behind her : 😴
    Wow thank you guys ♥️

    • @Lola-ip6yi
      @Lola-ip6yi 3 года назад +74

      😆 ... I was thinking the same thing! Kendall’s voice is ASMR to her fur babies! 💕

    • @Kaye77273
      @Kaye77273 3 года назад +12

      Thats what i said lol

    • @DamaCallyphora
      @DamaCallyphora 3 года назад +36

      Her voice is very calming 😍

    • @mommalynnette8190
      @mommalynnette8190 3 года назад +22

      I have a chihuahua that won't eat unless I am in the kitchen with him 😭 I feel like an asshole when I have to work 13 hours a day on the weekends.

    • @zirqskitchen9964
      @zirqskitchen9964 3 года назад +1

      😅🤣😂

  • @jordanwalker4194
    @jordanwalker4194 3 года назад +565

    Why someone would "donate" something they were actually still leasing, is beyond me. That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard.

    • @alexmunch9275
      @alexmunch9275 3 года назад +4

      2. Idiotic comment

    • @jordanwalker4194
      @jordanwalker4194 3 года назад +14

      Alex Munch 2nd comment you wasted time replying to😂

    • @mariamm7695
      @mariamm7695 3 года назад +32

      Alex Munch are you financially irresponsible? Sound like you are. The comment was perfectly logical and legitimate. You can’t donate something you’re leasing because you don’t know what might happen to it and you’re responsible for it. It’s a good point and yours isn’t.

    • @alexmunch9275
      @alexmunch9275 3 года назад +5

      Mariam M I was just replying to his 3 different comments, one of them shitting on the woman for being in the sex work industry. It ain’t that deep. Plus you sound pretty irritated, funny. That was my intention.

    • @jordanwalker4194
      @jordanwalker4194 3 года назад +3

      Elizabeth Ann yeah not at all . . .😒

  • @Platinum907
    @Platinum907 5 месяцев назад +1

    As a woman living my life walking w/ a friend, jogging, sitting, sleeping there are too many threats, it’s just ridiculous.

  • @finch8703
    @finch8703 3 года назад +48

    I am just realizing that the title didn't mean men loving men

  • @sarahberkheimer90
    @sarahberkheimer90 3 года назад +543

    Is it just me or does the dog in the background look like a deer just casually sleeping on the bed 😂

    • @carolineeaton4231
      @carolineeaton4231 3 года назад +9

      ikr! i was like, "damn, thats a weird plushie"

    • @Butterfly-pw4lb
      @Butterfly-pw4lb 3 года назад +5

      tell me why she scared me lmao

    • @raineaye
      @raineaye 3 года назад +4

      I thought it was a kangaroo for a split second 😂

    • @caitlinzabel
      @caitlinzabel 3 года назад +1

      This! 😂 I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought that

  • @kamabokogonpachiro3798
    @kamabokogonpachiro3798 3 года назад +384

    "You asked me where I burried the body? "
    Police : what?
    Luster: what?

  • @mimic7848
    @mimic7848 Год назад +4

    Thank God they solved this one, I thought about her over the years and hoped that her murderer would come to justice. Thanks for covering this case Kendall.

  • @lilorangy
    @lilorangy 2 года назад +65

    As a sex worker I’m always afraid of something happening to me and being shamed for what I do. I am more than a sex worker, I am an artist, a writer, a loving girlfriend and daughter. Cases like these really infuriate me-a hung jury? Most likely because she was a sex worker…it’s pretty disgusting we are still treated as worthless when there are far worse careers to be chosen that are celebrated. RIP as always, these cases definitely hit me differently.

    • @beautifulrose8619
      @beautifulrose8619 2 года назад +17

      I think for me personally, I would rather be poor than do sex work. The idea of selling my body in any capacity is something I could never do. I understand that some people do sell their bodies though and it is something that I don't understand. Everyone is different.

    • @mjhorvath2336
      @mjhorvath2336 Год назад +5

      It infuriates me the people & police never consider that *sex work* involves 2 people! It's not a solitary act because there is always a "client"! It takes 2 to Tango 🤣

    • @Yurim878
      @Yurim878 Год назад +1

      it’s sad another case of kids left with out a good mother ..

    • @bm-ww8kb
      @bm-ww8kb Год назад

      @@beautifulrose8619 so go broke. no one cares about your popular opinion. its not even noteworthy

    • @dariennedykes678
      @dariennedykes678 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@beautifulrose8619 anytime someone does manual labor they "sell their body" for money. Most forms of manual labor are way harder on the body than SW. What makes other forms of manual labor any less a form of "selling one's body" than sex work? If you aren't comfortable doing it than obviously no one is going to make you but you shouldn't look down on others for doing so. I'm not even a sex worker but I'd never look down on anyone for doing it.

  • @abskadabs
    @abskadabs 3 года назад +3185

    You should do a valentines series called “twisted hearts” about killer couples and stalkers in love!
    TYSM for so many likes I hope Kendall sees this and thinks about doing this

  • @bethanyayres9702
    @bethanyayres9702 3 года назад +470

    I love the way Kendall is never ever judgmental when she tells these stories. You can tell she has the purest heart and really cares for people 🥺❤️

    • @fluffybunny3178
      @fluffybunny3178 3 года назад +2

      Really, cause she seems angrier and preachy these days. She just told us not to judge this women and what comments she did not want to see.
      I think she only wants people who mirror her own opinions.
      She also has a special anger for men when they are the killer.
      Its a pity because she presents well but she is not impartial

    • @benwyatt8715
      @benwyatt8715 3 года назад +14

      girl shut the fuck up

    • @Katannjones
      @Katannjones 3 года назад +23

      @@fluffybunny3178 "She also has a special anger for men when they are the killer" Dude what? 😂 Of course she does! Do you want her to feel positively towards a murderer? Talk them up like they are a great person when they took somebody else's life? That's a normal reaction, to feel anger and disgust for a person like that.. ffs.And I've been watching her videos for a couple years and she is definitely not a judgmental person. You clearly don't watch her very often if that's the type of person you think she is. She's far from it.

    • @carolinebilliot2298
      @carolinebilliot2298 3 года назад +8

      fluffy bunny hush, child 😑

    • @fluffybunny3178
      @fluffybunny3178 3 года назад

      @@carolinebilliot2298 hush yourself 🤫

  • @roxyp7569
    @roxyp7569 2 года назад +21

    when you have a child, all of a sudden, it doesn't matter you will do anything to provide for them. I never understood when people would go to extremes for their kids, but when I became a mother I understood completely

  • @dakota2054
    @dakota2054 3 года назад +10

    Hey guys, just so everyone knows- I think it was mentioned that her kids were teens at the time but if I’m remembering correctly- they were likely all born between 1999-2001 so since she went missing in 2007, the oldest would have been at least 8/9 which is heart breaking

  • @chickpeapasta
    @chickpeapasta 3 года назад +1307

    It’s never a free trip. If anyone reading this doesn’t know about MLMs, don’t believe the “free trip” posts.

    • @hannahgrace2554
      @hannahgrace2554 3 года назад +38

      Mary J in reference to multi level marketing (the company whose products she was selling)

    • @chalawhina
      @chalawhina 3 года назад +36

      Not true. But it's a bonus for sales etc. not something you win. My sister has gone on multiple trips with scentsy without paying and brought my mother with her.

    • @diamond30angel
      @diamond30angel 3 года назад +68

      chalawhina HAHAHAH SCENTSY WHAT THE FUCK

    • @happyandhealthyyou2507
      @happyandhealthyyou2507 3 года назад +42

      @@chalawhina you are right. You earn the trips, not win them. It's hard work but a well-deserved perk.

    • @therealvlad505
      @therealvlad505 3 года назад +10

      @@hannahgrace2554 OH lmao i thought this was a mom who had a gay kid omg

  • @lesliemartin3
    @lesliemartin3 3 года назад +125

    I bartended in Go Go bars for years and also danced a bit when I was way younger. It is such a hard business to leave because the money can be amazing without having to compromise your values or morals. I absolutely identify with her way of taking control of her life after suffering a major loss of her marriage and partner. Its a shame how many people would have the audacity to judge her when in reality she showcased herself to be an incredibly responsible and creative loving mother who dedicated her life to her kids. She also produced an admirable quality in my opinion to be able to balance all of these different positions while still remaining a terrific person who didn't seem to be in the adult entertainment industry for the drugs and drama.

    • @daniellemarie6059
      @daniellemarie6059 3 года назад +5

      I can relate a lot and I can not believe she suffered such a terrible end. I feel blessed to be out of it. The money is great but the work is hell.

    • @florawinston278
      @florawinston278 3 года назад +5

      this is so beautifully written 💕

    • @frostyskeletons8950
      @frostyskeletons8950 3 года назад +1

      ❤️❤️❤️

  • @mimimi9169
    @mimimi9169 2 года назад +3

    You are truly a good person. Adopting and giving home to so many pats, helping victims’s families with donations and sharing their stories. Honestly, thank you 🙏

  • @celestialfox9282
    @celestialfox9282 3 года назад +5

    That's so sad that they grew up without their mommy. That's one of my biggest fears, my children growing up without me.

  • @maggiemcneely407
    @maggiemcneely407 3 года назад +118

    Hikers always are finding bodies.. I am NEVER going hiking! Lesson learned!

    • @00ooooo216
      @00ooooo216 3 года назад +16

      Anyone walking a dog is statistically most likely to find a body. Hikers often bring dogs with them. Dogs find the scent of the body.

    • @ameliashostak4764
      @ameliashostak4764 3 года назад +9

      hikers and dog walkers!!! that's why i don't have a dog and i don't go on any hikes!!

    • @kikiqt2442
      @kikiqt2442 3 года назад

      Good to know...

    • @martha06
      @martha06 3 года назад +5

      Yeah hikers always seem to find them but police who do the searches never 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @sophiagoodman-merel7453
    @sophiagoodman-merel7453 3 года назад +2561

    I'm just mad they didn't sell those expensive cars when they were struggling with money

    • @angelamartinez4551
      @angelamartinez4551 3 года назад +261

      Depends if they owned them or if they were leased. If the cars were leased then they couldn’t sell them since it’s not technically theirs to sell.

    • @nayshkamariel
      @nayshkamariel 3 года назад +137

      she said he leased everything

    • @maryanne7161
      @maryanne7161 3 года назад +30

      I think they were so much in debt that their used cars would have brought back a very small percent of the money.

    • @Aj-me8mo
      @Aj-me8mo 3 года назад +17

      You're obviously not a car person. You don't simply "sell" your prized cars

    • @m.josena4485
      @m.josena4485 3 года назад +84

      @@Aj-me8mo and very thankful for that,

  • @MarthaRodriguez-up4yl
    @MarthaRodriguez-up4yl 3 года назад +29

    Page worked hard to support her children. A mother will do anything to keep her children safe and bring food to the table. R.I.P PAGE.

  • @dingodave9160
    @dingodave9160 3 года назад +51

    Kendall, you have a talent of telling such interesting stories. I could listen to you for hours. Thank you for your informative and totally entertaining channel. ❤

  • @badgrl89
    @badgrl89 3 года назад +469

    I’m curious as to why social services didn’t get involved after the first 911 call? Anyone who can threaten to kill their own child needs therapy. That’s not something to joke about, that isn’t something you “just say.”

    • @litheon1289
      @litheon1289 3 года назад +14

      I completely agree, however the problem with things like that is proving that someone truly said it. Speaking from personal experience with my own mother, I know very well how some people will twist things to get others hurt... again I agree but things are just difficult that way.

    • @Master_ESE
      @Master_ESE 3 года назад +7

      SS in that area isn’t that great, there’s a reason the city is nicknamed Junk Town.

    • @jilliancorcoran3593
      @jilliancorcoran3593 3 года назад +5

      YEAH i was so disturbed by that comment, i was certain the video was going to be about Rob doing it. And when she said the kids live with him I was like......

    • @jeandixson5610
      @jeandixson5610 3 года назад +6

      The police in Grand Junction are funky and they don’t take women seriously, that’s really true. Look up the violence of Ricky Schroeder I have seen his wife in City Market with black eyes, him walking around like a movie star

    • @jessicah3450
      @jessicah3450 3 года назад +1

      Domestic violence isn't taken seriously anywhere. It has to be very serious before the DA or Social Services will get involved. Too many people drop out and go back to their abusers, kids involved or not.

  • @rachelelaine7094
    @rachelelaine7094 3 года назад +757

    Why didn’t the live in nanny call the police when she didn’t come home?

    • @jasmineali8540
      @jasmineali8540 3 года назад +145

      I’m guessing the nanny was used to her boss not coming home at night... she worked as a night escort, after all.

    • @aproxamillionwasps474
      @aproxamillionwasps474 3 года назад +66

      In hind sight she should have but when someone doesn’t come home it’s easy to tell yourself they’re probably sleeping at a friends house or just out doing something.

    • @cvb4117
      @cvb4117 3 года назад +4

      I was wondering the same thing

    • @lyss5905
      @lyss5905 3 года назад +23

      Ron did say she was meeting with a client after the date so I’m sure she mentioned that to the nanny

    • @ElleEasternSuburbsMum
      @ElleEasternSuburbsMum 3 года назад

      Right??

  • @samanthawert-black4437
    @samanthawert-black4437 2 года назад +14

    I seriously love all of the animals in your videos. I also LOVE what you do for these victims. You’re so awesome.

  • @femalevoice_
    @femalevoice_ Год назад +7

    How did she tell her friends she’s creeped out by him if no one knew she’s in the sex industry?

  • @nintendogh0st
    @nintendogh0st 3 года назад +234

    The title: “MLM”
    Me: Ah yes Men loving Men

  • @avagaiawelch3236
    @avagaiawelch3236 3 года назад +441

    Doesn't matter what you do for a living, it's no reason to murder someone. My heart goes out to this girls friends and family, especially her kids.

    • @brendaleigh7834
      @brendaleigh7834 3 года назад +9

      Illegal activity such as prostitution is high risk behavior

    • @Me-iq4se
      @Me-iq4se 2 года назад +17

      @@brendaleigh7834 but that doesn't make them deserving of murder. It can be dangerous but no one deserves to be murdered.

    • @kevinhenderson5520
      @kevinhenderson5520 Год назад +3

      @@brendaleigh7834 yeah but... So a person can have sex freely and that's okay, but if they make money from it it's not okay??? Doesn't make sense to me.. personally I don't disagree with it.... There are plenty of make and females who enjoy this occupation and it should be legal to some degree. At least for consenting adults.

    • @DUBSTV2003
      @DUBSTV2003 Год назад +1

      @@brendaleigh7834 prostitution isn't illegal everything, just like smoking weed isn't. Neither is a reason to be killed.

  • @silasfletcher2556
    @silasfletcher2556 3 года назад +19

    As I was watching this video I was thinking how 'this seems different' in how you were describing the events. Usually, in cases involving sex workers, that's the part that is focused on, sensationalized. I love the way you described her so humanly, as to how I (assume) she would have wanted to be remembered: a loving mother, a charismatic sales women, etc. Definitely liking and following.

  • @alyssadawn6396
    @alyssadawn6396 3 года назад +1

    You said it perfectly, no one deserves to be murdered! No victim blaming is needed and I’m glad you called it out before it happened!

  • @ashleymulford1072
    @ashleymulford1072 3 года назад +846

    my inbox is full of MLM's from highschool that bullied me lmao

    • @tyramcburney9764
      @tyramcburney9764 3 года назад +45

      lmao girl same thing is happening to me. its like now they want all your money and to be your best friend.

    • @curlwhurl8054
      @curlwhurl8054 3 года назад +50

      I do a lot of mental health support on my instagram. Not as a business, just a way to talk about my feelings and support others, I connect with lots of different people for conversation. And it grinds my gears when people reach out to me pretending to be interested in what I talk about and then drop it on me or slyly mention that they are wanting to recruit people to some business meaning me.... I just find it tacky and manipulative. I get that we all have to make money, but be honest about it haha.

    • @GonkBoy66
      @GonkBoy66 3 года назад +1

      Same!!! 😂😂😂

    • @elodielebrun
      @elodielebrun 3 года назад +26

      why is it always the high school bully bitches lmfaoo

    • @ashleymulford1072
      @ashleymulford1072 3 года назад +14

      @@elodielebrun lmao i know. atleast i dont feel bad for leaving them on read lol

  • @j1o1h1n1f32
    @j1o1h1n1f32 3 года назад +502

    Escort or not she was an obviously beautiful person who didn't deserve to be brutally murdered by some creep. Her profession put food on her family's table and the goody goods shouldn't judge.

    • @jasmineali8540
      @jasmineali8540 3 года назад +45

      “Sex work” is not the answer and it doesn’t make me a goody goody to think escorting is terrible for women. Many women go back to school in order to get a better career or switch careers entirely, go to night school, whatever it takes. It’s so sad that she thought she had to sell her body. That’s never safe.

    • @candlejenner5558
      @candlejenner5558 3 года назад +70

      Right, there is absolutely nothing wrong with sex work. She did what she had to do for her kids. The people who are victim blaming her are disgusting.

    • @kaleidoscopic9495
      @kaleidoscopic9495 3 года назад +47

      IMO it should be legal and regulated. Sadly there would still be people judging and shaming, but there would be less risk for the women and would also at least lessen the stigma.

    • @Hypno_BPM
      @Hypno_BPM 3 года назад +32

      candle jenner there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a hooker ? lmfao wtf

    • @MissSusannna12
      @MissSusannna12 3 года назад +8

      Apart from actively judging or supporting there’s a category of people who just don’t want to interact with this kind of stuff in any shape or form and choose to zone out silently from this people and any interactions with them. I can relate. Not judging not supporting, just minding my own business.

  • @kyraphillips6819
    @kyraphillips6819 3 года назад +10

    I appreciate that you not only report on crime stories but you also advocate for victims, you are an amazing person 🤘💖

  • @emo7636
    @emo7636 2 года назад +11

    Refused to give him any of her 'business'. That's the most eloquent way I've heard of saying she refused to sleep with him for money.

  • @rosemarietrent1638
    @rosemarietrent1638 3 года назад +1281

    hey i don't know if you've seen the trafficking conspiracy theory with the cabinets but i think you would find it super interesting to cover, would also fit extremely well with you're thorn campaigns!

  • @Samantha-xm5gp
    @Samantha-xm5gp 3 года назад +129

    “you ask me where i burried the body” UM THAT PUT KNOTS IN MY STOMACH

  • @HBICTiff
    @HBICTiff 3 года назад +3

    People who are victim blaming, just imagine it’s your loved one and then we’ll see how judgemental you are.

  • @emmathomson2584
    @emmathomson2584 2 года назад +4

    You literally cannot make money in an MLM unless you're one of the first people in on it & are able to amass a huge downline of family & friend slaves you make money off of. Terrible business practice.

  • @estopesto2647
    @estopesto2647 3 года назад +1109

    "There is a car on fire"
    "Do you see flames or smoke?"
    When dispatchers don't understand what fire is

    • @cherrycherrylady1700
      @cherrycherrylady1700 3 года назад +16

      🤣💀

    • @kristinasymons
      @kristinasymons 3 года назад +21

      Was thinking the same thing lol

    • @jlw839
      @jlw839 3 года назад +293

      As a dispatcher I can explain. It's because people will call and say "there is a car on fire"and you ask "is it fully engulfed or is the fire centralized to one area?" and they say "it's only smoking" then its smoking, not on fire. Vehicles can smoke and never catch fire. It all has to do with prioritizing calls. Fully engulfed > smoking.

    • @jazmingonzalez78
      @jazmingonzalez78 3 года назад +8

      Honestly lol some of them ask the stupidest questions

    • @SuicideRedemption
      @SuicideRedemption 3 года назад +111

      @@jazmingonzalez78 you just don't understand the reasoning. Doesn't make it a stupid question
      The person above you even explained why they ask this

  • @mira_bellchen4265
    @mira_bellchen4265 3 года назад +260

    I‘m not only 5 minutes in but the story of her first husband makes me think: wouldn’t you talk about things like family planning and children before you get married? I mean it’s something fundamental and if you don’t agree on that, maybe marriage isn’t the right step...not blaming anyone on their decisions, just thinking.

    • @stephanie4ever
      @stephanie4ever 3 года назад +17

      I agree. The 2 serious relationships I’ve been in I’ve always brought that up. I don’t want to get too involved, get married and then realize they don’t want kids . Even though I’m not trying to have a kid right now I still need someone to be on the same page as me for later on in the future. Definitely important to talk about. At the very least, after the engagement start having those conversations.

    • @Mel__21
      @Mel__21 3 года назад +12

      I'm sure they talked about it. Maybe she thought he would change his mind eventually. A lot people tend to do that, but often waste their time.

    • @lynncrf
      @lynncrf 3 года назад +1

      I know other couples who ran into the same issue, but I never asked if they talked about it beforehand.

    • @avierzba91
      @avierzba91 3 года назад +3

      My husband and I agreed on having 4 kids (I had always wanted 5-6 and he said 3-4) and then after we had 1, he had the hardest time coming around to the idea of a 2nd. Finally had our 2nd and he swears he’s done with having children. Honestly it’s so frustrating but we did have multiple conversations before getting married and agreed on 4! Ugh.

    • @aliciagiron7250
      @aliciagiron7250 3 года назад +4

      Yes. You most definitely do. I’m married now and in every relationship I’ve been in (3 boyfriends.) I always made sure to make that a point. And keep a lookout on their reactions. You don’t have to force someone or ask them. Their actions show a lot.

  • @tinafanelli3382
    @tinafanelli3382 3 года назад +10

    Lester must have tricked her into thinking she was meeting another man and then ambushed her. So sad.

  • @nbgilbert
    @nbgilbert 2 года назад +4

    Glad I found you! Love how you promote donations to families who need help.

  • @mdot1955
    @mdot1955 3 года назад +807

    Do a story of Heather D Grigsby my granddaughter murdered 4-26-2019. Lexington, Kentucky. No one charged for murdering her and her friend Shannon.

    • @rosade4219
      @rosade4219 3 года назад +88

      I’m so sorry :( I covered it on my TikTok. Is there a petition that I could attach to my bio?

    • @frog8603
      @frog8603 3 года назад +36

      I'm so sorry for your loss. May they rest in peace

    • @brookcosby2923
      @brookcosby2923 3 года назад +20

      Thats not too far from me, I think I remember hearing about that, I am so sorry for your loss.

    • @kikiprimavera9203
      @kikiprimavera9203 3 года назад +18

      Rest In Peace Heather and so sorry for your loss grandma. I can imagine her zest for life, optimism and how vibrant she was. I’m only saying this, because we share same birthday. All the blessings!

    • @HighsideOfJupiter
      @HighsideOfJupiter 3 года назад +13

      Do y’all have any ideas of who murdered them? We’re y’all able to lay the bodies to rest ? It’s absolutely mind boggling that cold cases or situations like yours happen in this generation go technology and science.

  • @isaflores6041
    @isaflores6041 3 года назад +89

    I’m very anti-MLM and a true crime junkie so I needed this in my life

    • @anastasiaxo2350
      @anastasiaxo2350 3 года назад +3

      Same lol

    • @podthenorth
      @podthenorth 3 года назад +3

      You need to listen to the first season of the podcast Uncover about the MLM "NXIVM" - it is WILD

    • @LinaK786
      @LinaK786 3 года назад +2

      Did you cringe when Kendall talked about "she won a free trip to Caribbean"? After we all learnt just how "free" these trips are when all the huns were trying to return their plane tickets that they purchased to go on their "free" trips and unbook their airbnbs this spring.

    • @isaflores6041
      @isaflores6041 3 года назад

      Kattie .L Oh I know all about NXIVM. Shit is FUCKED UP

    • @isaflores6041
      @isaflores6041 3 года назад +1

      Lina K I do. All their luxury prizes like cruises, cars, and vacations are total scams.

  • @Stup_efied
    @Stup_efied 2 года назад

    Thank you for pointing the other videos out. They did not show up in my feed. I appreciate all that you do for the victims and their families. As well as the foundations that you support.

  • @Jenahh-aye
    @Jenahh-aye 2 года назад +4

    I'm so glad this story ended with justice. Her kids deserve that atleast. You could tell she really loved them.

  • @jaydenreads-kg7pw
    @jaydenreads-kg7pw 3 года назад +634

    I don’t know, if I wanted kids more than anything, I would probably figure out if my partner wanted them too before I got married...

    • @alexandra_vic_
      @alexandra_vic_ 3 года назад +37

      yes! and did he change his mind when she was divorced with 3 kids?!

    • @Hiphop618
      @Hiphop618 3 года назад +6

      100% agreed

    • @micaelaann6588
      @micaelaann6588 3 года назад +2

      a good point!

    • @440jasmine
      @440jasmine 3 года назад +30

      Men will lie to you about that, then after you marry them they start with the "lets wait"

    • @annabethdiana5857
      @annabethdiana5857 3 года назад +9

      @@alexandra_vic_ I think he was more worried that they would have kids and their relationship would end badly because he wasn't sure what he wanted. After spending so much time apart and then reconnecting and falling in love with her kids probably reminded him that he wanted to be with her.
      Not saying it isn't sketchy but there are plenty of people I know who are way more comfortable with being a step-parent than actually being legally responsible

  • @delhaney11
    @delhaney11 3 года назад +226

    “HELLOOOO PAMPERED CHEFFF”

  • @jeffreywolfe7371
    @jeffreywolfe7371 Год назад

    You are the best! I love how you don't sound arrogant in the way you talk, and you have a lot of sympathy for victims of these horrible crimes.