Psycho ex-boyfriend with black truck who knows she's moved on and having a baby with another man plus has just discovered one child he thought was his, isn't...or 11 year old boy with no motive or criminal history. Wow. Tough one.
Agreed. I don't even know if Adam was the murderer. He could have been. Certainly a more reasonable suspect than Jordan. It does sound like there should have been more investigation into Adam, but the real miscarriage of justice is what happened to Jordan, in my opinion.
Also did the police look enough into it? Seems they took the "evidence" in the house pretty lightly and wasted a lot of time trying to pin the child instead of looking more into other possibilities.
A lot of the comments are saying he couldn't have done it because he's 11...James Bulger's killers were 10, Mary Bell was 10. Sometimes children do kill. Jordan didn't, but some kids do, some kids are crazy!
Psychology has shown that police should only interview children one time and record it, using that recording as the kid's testimony at trial, and if it is necessary to reinterview the child, don't ask the same questions. When kids are asked the same questions over and over, they're going to change their answer because they think they answered incorrectly or didn't give the answer the person was looking for. This is something that's used in school all the time: a teacher asks the class a question, the class gets it wrong, the teacher gives them some sort of help to find the right answer, then reasks the question to get the correct answer. Police can't treat children the same way they do adults, it doesn't work.
Yes, I had to get interviewed when I was younger and I was about 9-11 but I got interviewed by police and by investigators or whoever they were I can't remember but they both asked me questions I had already answered, being the only witness it scared me that I thought I answered wrong and I changed my story a bit, but as a child it should be made sure that even if you're an older kid you should be asked questions by someone who is trained to ask kids these types of questions, not a police officer who deals with adults
I agree, especially since it is said that multiple adults were interviewing the kids, which just puts more pressure to the kids to try to say what the adults want to hear.
@@TheMillerChild no. That’s just not likely don’t go unnecessarily blaming little girls. It’s already bad as it is that the blame was put on an 11 year old kid now you wanna blame little girls? They’re young, they wouldn’t understand the severity of their actions so would just slip up that they were playing with the gun. They wouldn’t know to keep it a secret.
Seriously!!! My youngest son is 11 (gonna be 12 in 2 weeks) and he can’t take a cookie without leaving evidence (ie pantry door open, crumbs, leaving the empty container in the pantry 😂😂)
It’s probably because he was not related to them. My sister is adopted and you would not believe the things she’s been accused of including jealousy of the other kids in the family. It makes me so angry! And I know it’s just because she not blood related. I bet Kenzie’s family had the same feelings about Jordan.
I mean, If there was actual physical evidence then I would side with them, but the fact there was no evidence and it was all based on the police taking the easy way out... Children are capable of murder - look at the case of James Bulger, 2 kids tortured and killed him. But there was actual evidence to convict them. In this case there was no actual evidence. I've watched this video a few times now and each time I'm like why wasn't his hands checked for gun powder residue? Yet the dad was and they ruled him out so I feel if they had actually checked the kid when they arrested him it could have actually been sorted that night.
Yeah they should've been more thorough. Then her family to really believe that he did it is pretty mean. I would've spoken to him at least. Maybe he just didn't like her family?
The fact that his football friends had parents who were understanding enough to allow their children to visit him made me tear up. That poor boy. Our justice system really breaks my heart sometimes.
That was the moment in this video when I said huh. Doesnt make sense that ALL those parents would be okay with that unless they believed that Jordan was innocent.
And why did Kenzie ask him to stay home THAT day? She still had two weeks to go. Why did she not want to be alone that day? Because her ex was gunning for her and probably made a very recent and specific threat. I'm guessing checking phone records wasn't necessary after all their hot shot detective work sniffing guns, looking at snow and testing laundry piles for GSR.
I partly agree. I had thought that too at first. Like it seems weird that day specifically she wanted him to stay home. Almost like she wanted protection because she feared something would happen. With how heavily pregnant she was, she probably wouldn't be able to run very fast and protect herself and her 4 year old daughter. However, the only part that makes no sense to that theory is, if she had a feeling her ex would be there, why not have told Chris why she wanted him to stay home?
Idk, it’s not all unbelievable for someone to have the baby that early. Plus she may have just been feeling really pregnant and symptomatic that day. I still think it was likely the ex tho.
@@fidelianerina what if she wasnt comfortable talking about that part of her life and just him in general or maybe the way he got in contact with her could have been avoided and maybe she willingly answered him and was ashamed of how far it gotten to where she didnt feel safe in her home? idk theres so many possibilities
Well, they murdered someone, who was VERY pregnant. I doubt that having a little kid take the fall is something that a person like that would get upset about. I would imagine that the murderer was just happy that it was little Jordan locked up instead of them.
Jordan and Janessa left around 8:15 according to the 4yr old, when she finally spoke out she said she woke up to a sound of the gunshot around 9am. The detectives thought her statement wouldn’t be credible enough because she was so young.
I agree. I also think asking around at school, further questioning the tree people, and getting some genuine analysis on that gun would be a good idea too. So much was overlooked here
I believe that right when they left to school something happened to Kenzie and because the guns were what Jordan and his father used for hunting the ex wore gloves when he did so in order to frame the dna on Jordan
Omg i was thinking the same thing because her story changed everytime they talked to her not only that her story even changed in the trial at less 2 different times then she makes up that her dad raped her and she get off scoot free and this little boy changed his story 1 time N lost everything in a blink of an eye come the hell on
also after the ex had found out one of the kids he thought was their's wasn't, like obviously he would be mad at her AND the unborn kid because the new kid was with a different guy as well as one of the girls he thought was his own
I mean I’ve driven around and had snow stay on a truck. It’s called driving carefully 😂. But like if you want to make it look like you didn’t then drive super slow so the snow doesn’t move. But also..Like what if Adam was the one on the other end of the phone that the daughter mentioned was ringing? Like calling to see if anyone noticed him?
@@mckennacousineau8781 And also, where was the snow? Was it on the hood, specifically, or was it in the bed? Did the cop specify? Not all cops have integrity.
Gotta love how her father only said he didn’t like Jordan and he was a troubled kid but then provided no anecdotal evidence. I’ve met some troubled kids and you always have a story.
Yes the police deemed him ",troubled" His stepmother and baby brother are killed and he's being accused of it? Yes I guess he WOULD be troubled. The police never spoke to him before the incident, so how would they have known if he was troubled?
It is a good point - it may have been coz she didn’t feel well and wanted help with the 4 year old. Or like u say - it may have also been coz of what she was gonna have to deal with that day ...
@T Retano having experience with guns doesn't mean someone is a killer, especially since nothing is solid enough to convict an eleven year old. Not to mention your other comments makes me think you don't care about the evidence you just don't like guns and think anyone who owns one is a blood thirsty killer which is stupid as f*ck when it comes to this case
@@frogking6416 who gives the gun to children though? And why the gun was laying around randomly. I know the cops and detectives were absolute morons but Its not unheard of when children shot themselves or their family members by accident because they were playing with gun that wasn’t securely stored.
@@vkrgfan are you American? Bc that explains ur first two questions. Don’t look for too much logic, kids usually start young with guns and parents are uncommonly shit about locking them up or having them in a safe place. Some houses even display them as a warning but idk that one feels less common
@@vkrgfan welcome to the south where kids have guns because hey it's the south. Not to mention everything doesn't even line up for the kid to be considered a suspect, I know killer kids is a thing but he doesn't seem one of them, not to mention he'd have to walk to the bus, leave his sister, walk back to the house, shoot his step mom, change clothes, then walk back in time for the bus
Loreto Bustos Finger prints are VERY important. So if it's his gun, then no one else can touch it? Like you have a phone, it's yours, so no one else can use it? Come on. They also said the kid participated in a turkey shoot or something, so yeah, his clothes had gun powder on them. It's pretty clear that the ex did it. The police work here is abysmal.
@@BlueblueN right? Like I think the ex is 100% guilty. He was abusive to the point where she had a restraining order on him. He said he would kill her. Now imagine an abusive ex that already wants to kill you as it is finding out that the child he thought was his wasn’t. That would set him off. They said there’s no way he would know nobody was home but I think that someone like him wouldn’t care about that and his anger would set him off to the point where he just did it anyway. It just worked out in his favor that nobody was home. & maybe he didn’t know that she had a new boyfriend so he thought the only ones that would be there are her little daughters and didn’t care at that point.
Something is telling me that her family absolutely hated her husband and his son and instead of getting the real murderer, they wanted it to be an 11 year old boy, because that would be the worst for the both of them. They probably liked the ex more than the person who was kind to her.
So your telling me that the police basically arrested A 11 YEAR OLD and used jealousy as proff... but ruled out a ex boyfriend because he had snow on his car... wow... just wow
It really feels like the police tried to convict that kid as fast as they possibly could. And it's weird how the family just hates him right away for some reason.
@@bluezauza I have a feeling that it has something to do with the fact that he is not related to them if you know what I mean? I think they just wanted to point fingers at someone, it so weird that everybody ignore the crazy ex. There were a lot of things that made him the principal suspect!! The way the police handle everything was just horrible, it makes me think they were friends or something like that with the ex.
right, they barely had any evidence. i also believe that they should’ve asked the teachers how his behavior was when he went to school, was he worried?
To be honest most people right away would hate someone who “Killed” Their family. Me myself don’t think he did their was not enough evidence to prove him guilt especially not putting him in prison for the rest of his life. That is at least what I think.
I feel like her ex probably did it when he found out his daughter wasn’t actually his. & hes just sitting back laughing at the fact that they blamed it all on an 11 year old.
Also the ex boyfriend daughter switched up the story to make it seem like the little boy did it i wonder if she did that to save her dad? Because they thought maybe it was him instead
I’m so happy that Jordan’s father believed in his son’s innocence and never gave up! I just love that father son relationship they had! Absolutely precious. Those small town detectives are just that, inexperienced. They went through this case with stupid tunnel vision. Hooray,Jordan is suing their ass! I know he’ll win!
The fact that that judge found him guilty at 11 years old with such little and insignificant “evidence”. just makes me realize how much of a joke our judicial system is.
Her ex had also confronted her and Chris at a nightclub the night before she was murdered which resulted in him being thrown out. But, hey. Snow on the car.
@@kathylavoie3105 This doesn't mean anything!!! I have seen cars with snow on top in the streets! it is cold and it won't melt! So if you don't remove them it will stay there. This is just crazy
@@mahnazha yes Now they should go get the real killer instead of trying to pawn it off on our 11-year-old boy. My 11-year-old grandson couldn’t come up with something like that and like one other lady said my 11-year-old grandson can’t make a PB&J without making a mess and leaving behind evident
One side: 11 yo. "was kinda weird" Other side: Adult. Violent past. Restraining order. Paying child support - kid is not his. Threatened family. Black truck. Stalker. Police: LET'S BRING THE KID TO JUSTICE
I just heard about this case and it struck me immediately that the police focused in the 11 year old child. He would be the last suspect in my mind. 24 hours later they arrested him... who would do that. I think that police deparment was corrupt and they knew the real killer.
It also makes no sense, because it appears that hours have passed since the murder. It’s perfectly possible that it snowed during that time and that’s why snow was present on top of his vehicle. Even discounting the fact that snow can stick to roofs of cars, especially if the snow was partially melted and the refroze.
Everyone with a brain after hearing that her ex threatened to kill her: oh so he's the most likely suspect Cops: yeah but there was also this 11 year old boy at school too
The ex boyfriend literally threatened to kill her and that’s documented with the restraining order. Then she said she ends up dead with no evidence? Come on, why would you not look into that?
@MEDICAL CRUSADE He saw a black truck outside. and the ex had a black truck. Besides, the motive is pretty weak. The ex has a stronger motive than the kid. Plus the ex didnt even have an alibi. They just assumed that he wadnt there cause there was snow on his truck.
@MEDICAL CRUSADE And no if it's on your clothes it's on there till it's washed off. Gun powder don't just leave your shirt. A few hours on your hand because you wash your hands all the time.
In her ex Just found out the one little girl was not his so he was pissed And killed her and Jordan said he seen a black truck and didn’t think anything of it I really like police officers but in this case they’re fucking stupid just saying
@@jordangann7438 red headed freckle faced 10 yo kid that lured a 4 yo and brutalized the 4 yo with a tree stick ( you know what i mean ) and a large rock.
If we were all "felt guilty" by someone, the whole planet would be imprisoned....which it feels like during Covid ;-) Tragic, disgraceful case. Poor kid. Poor mom & unborn baby.
Yeah the amount of cops saying "Our theory is" in that interview was ridiculous. They were way over their head, I grew up in a rural area and the cops there would not know the first thing about solving a murder.
The Police Force really did not investigate this case thoroughly and professionally. There was no strong evidence to prove that Jordan did do it. If he did shoot her, how come the daughters and the men outside didn't hear when the gun went off?! May both souls R.I.P!! My prayers are with you and your father Jordan.
I completely agree. I was absolutely disgusted by the "Chris needs to look in the mirror and tell himself that I'm the father of a murderer" comment. What the fuck? That's soooo unfair, even if Jordan DID do it... That's just wrong.
and he’s still going through it to this day, put through all this trauma for no damn reason. i saw the 20/20 episode a few years back and the fact that he’s still having to go through court cases is just maddening. i don’t think he ever got the chance to truly grieve or even grow up properly because of this. i feel for him so much. he’s probably so confused.
Ally it’s so sad because Jordan isn’t the only one who is going through this so many other kids and teens in America are going through this police corruption/incompetence😕 it’s really scary to think how America’s prison systems are literally businesses they make money for putting and keeping people in jail
For Kenzie's family to so adamantly claim that Jordan is the killer, even without any real evidence, it makes me wonder if one of her family members actually killed her. The only other thing I can think of is that they really, really didn't approve of her and Chris' relationship, and this fueled their belief that his son was the killer.
I was actually going though the comments like wtf why would her family be so adamant to push the full extent of the law on a little boy other than they got some kind of benefit from it... just bc "they had a bad feeling all of a sudden" wtf is that he's an 11yr old boy hes awkward...they all are!!! I honestly think your on to something like it's just so messed up like even if he did he's still eleven and your the only ppl who have ever seen anything funny about him not one single person other than you guys?! Smh thank God justice was actually served bc I don't think he did it at all!!!
It seems like they just believed what they were told. Like maybe they were so desperate to see someone go down for their daughters murder that they would blame anyone
That's the reason one man sacrificed his life in order to prove that and that's how the death penalty has been taken off the menu now in some states. Kevin Spacey played him in a movie.
I'm from the town this happened in and i worked at the jail when Jordan was brought in. He seemed so lost and scared. Thank you for covering this story so respectfully. It is still a very hot debate here, even after all this time. Great video 💚
@@addihouk6951 Yes, I agree that you were the truest victims. Somehow this gets overlooked in this case and it's very upsetting. I think it has a lot to do with sexism/ male privilege. While I don't know a lot about the details of the case, it seems likely Jordan did it. It is so rare and unusual that a child that age could or would do something like that, but the access to weapons literally might have been the perfect storm. The father is at the very least negligent for having all of those firearms unlocked/unprotected/ within reach of a child. I am truly sorry for the loss of your mother and the trauma you endured, and still continue to endure.
@@mariellencressman9624it’s super wild that you came to that conclusion. It’s just as likely one of the daughters did it that Jordan did it. Guns in the house, janessa and Jordan left at the same time. With that logic maybe she was in on it. It’s sounds pretty ridiculous doesn’t it? There’s literally no evidence linking him to the murder which is proven in this video, and anything they might have had could’ve easily been pinned to any one of them in that house. It’s actually more likely that the ex boyfriend did it. At least he had a motive. Poor kid still getting dragged for something he very obviously didn’t do
How do the adults think “yeah, has to be a child. Not a psycho ex boyfriend with motive, and multiple protective orders against him.” Guess the victims family and police never heard of Occam’s razor. 🙄
the whole thing with Kenzie's family insisting that Jordan has a "dark side" absolutely reeks of "we're not happy our daughter got remarried to a man who already had a kid". i just can't imagine why else or _how_ else they could justify that to themselves, justify wishing the death penalty on this tiny 11 y.o. child... it's completely unbelievable. and like Kendall pointed out, IF Jordan did do it, the timeline doesn't make a lick of sense. NONE of the prosecuting argument against Jordan makes sense.
@@AlphabetSoup3000 in some cases i would agree, however seeing his dad and how he has loved and raised his son i dont think that he would find that behaviour acceptable. My partner passed at the end of 2019 and our youngest child was 11 and i give her some lead way on acting out but i would not accept her lashing out at someone (other than me) as we all should know that others are not responsible for accidents that happen. This has happened once, to a close family friend but that is still no excuse.
If he did it, you'd think Janessa would have heard more than just the one sound she mentioned. I find it incredibly unlikely that (A) the shot to the head was so sudden that there was no time for Kenzie to shout something like "NO!" or "JORDAN, STOP!", (B) the 11-year old was so composed that he blew someone's skull open and then went to school without making a sound, crying, etc, and (C) said 11-year-old wouldn't break down and admit what he did at some point, especially if he was told doing so would make the Scary Stuff stop.
Ex boyfriend: *Has a black truck, has made threats against kenzie, orders against him, had been staying low entire time, youngest daughter mentions the boom at a time when Jordan wasnt home* Jordan: *gets arrested*
You nailed it!!! The ex boyfriend must have friends in the police force or payed some people off! He will get his one day! Letting an 11 year old get the blame!!
@@cassidy983 though this is true in a lot of cases *including this one* sometimes abusive partners aren’t the killer Bc they genuinely love the person they’re abusing.. like most abusers were abused so that’s all they know to do
Also the police wrote him off mainly over a polygraph? Did he have an actual alibi? And idk about the snow on the truck thing, snow can definitely stay on a truck while driving, no?
Yeah I’m really getting suspicious with these endless cases where the police are so quickly making the more outrageous claims instead of the far more common. When you hear hoofbeats think horses not zebras.
I personally think it’s the ex. It’s beyond sickening that her family thinks this child did this. All evidence points to the ex. He deserves an apology at minimum. I can’t image the PTSD he has.
No that’s not how it works you can’t just have a restrictive order against someone and say oh we have no evidence against him that guy done it because he has a restrictive order
@@salvare381 ummm. Didn’t say to charge someone with no evidence??? Said the person I have a restraining order against should be the number one suspect. As in should be investigated thoroughly...
The way Kenzie’s family acted towards and about Jordan afterwards is absolutely disgusting. The police work was so sloppy and half assed. The assessment of the ex was so terribly done. Even the story Kenzie’s daughter told seems odd. Everyone was so worried about “solving” and closing this case, that nobody even took the proper time and assessments to evaluate the case properly. This case is heartbreaking, Jordan was terribly failed.
This reminds me of an episode of forensic files I watched where a person was wrongfully convicted and they were so shocked because the idea that the justice system could EVER get ANYTHING wrong was just so foreign, it had never even crossed their mind. That’s insane to me. I can’t understand just blindly believing police and the justice system with how corrupt it is. I think they might be the kind of people who just believe whatever the police say.
The photo of him sat in prison with his head down when all his football friends came to visit him absolutely broke my heart😢😢😢 poor boy this case is so so so unfair it’s unbelievable
as someone who only owns big breed dogs and does bitework etc, i also worked at a dog daycare where there were small breeds like yours and i can say for a fact your dog is the most well behaved small breed i have ever seen. i love her
Why would they be so sure it wasn’t Adam? He finds out his child isn’t his and on top of that his ex is with a new guy, happy, and pregnant. Sounds like motive to me
The police reasoning was that there was snow on his car still (of he had done it,which I'm 100% sure about) after he drove all the way to Kenzie's and back....and he passed a polygraph
Your actually kidding me with that, my mom drives me to college and back and then to work and there is still snow on her car. Plus polygraphs are pretty easy to pass apparently.
And the ONLY part they said changed was, HE SAW A MAN IN THE TRUCK WITH A HAT ON...... That's not exactly a "change in story", that's recalling MORE DETAILS 🙄🙄
@@leightadesse9385 I guess that's why they said "with practically zero evidence." They're not saying they're sorry for the kids who have actually murdered others.
Then change the current system where if a child backchats a teacher and doesn't immediately listen, just as one example, the POLICEMAN who is the security, takes them to spend an hour or two in real solitary in a real prison. Then they wonder why that same kid has a 50/50 chance of making that their home as an adult. That needs to change - make the punishment fit the crime and the age, period. If it does not change, look at the parent, because the child is the result, the product, not the cause.
I can’t imagine an 11 year old wouldn’t crack if he did it and either confess or tell someone. Damn I felt guilty if I didn’t return a library book on time when I was 11.
Right?! oh they definitely would end up confessing- the tactics that police interrogators have will get smart, prepared adults with experience with police to confess- it’s hard for me to imagine an 11 year old having the cognitive ability to lie through an interrogation, especially without any former issues (no fighting or history or abuse, he was a good inmate, no other signs of psychological problems that would cause an 11yr old to murder). Also I think 4 year olds will def remember events like that... I remember some preschool and kindergarten events that weren’t traumatic.
As someone who lives in Canada and is very used to driving with snow on my car, I can say with 100% conviction that it is possible to drive and not have the snow fall off your vehicle, especially if it’s wet sticky snow and there’s no wind. I think it was the ex.
I agree with the snow comment, I've driven countless times with seemingly untouched snow on the hood of my car. I think almost all of us think it was the ex, and it speaks even more to his lack of integrity that he would let a little kid take the blame for him.
I completely agree, same here. Snow acts differently depending on what kind of snow it is. If it was dry powder sure it'd come off but virtually any other kind will stick. There's a reason those brushes exist on the windshield scrapers.
No same. I play this game in my area (Michigan) and just "guess" who owns a garage and who has to park outside, because the latter ALWAYS have snow on their car. And a ton of it, to boot.
Yep! im from Canada too and i also had snow stay on my vehicule going to work. I always try to take it off for security of other cars but if im late, its staying on... If the kid did it, the other would have known. Two kids were waiting for that bus. I believe that black car was a big clue that was overlooked.
So when Janessa, who's younger than Jordan, changes her whole story, it's credible. But when Jordan adds a small detail to his previous story it's a complete lie?
@@outtaspace1566 most definitely personal issues. god damn it watching this case multiple times made me super mad, I cant fathom how Jordan and his dad must be feeling for years
@@annettejones7777 My thoughts exactly, probably keep asking her similar questions over and over til she tell them what they need for the statement. Even the victim family seemed like they've been talked over by the police and convinced them how likely that Jordan is the one who did it.
It’s beyond terrible that they convicted him, a child, without proper evidence, but how they did it… he was a child. During arrest and imprisonment, not allowing him parental support, or even counselling… tragic.
Kenzie's mother calling Jordan a "murderer" with her whole chest without any proof made my blood boiled. Also ok he might have misbehaved sometimes like any other regular 11 years old boy would still that doesn't make him a "bad kid" let alone a killer
the same thing happened here in my country. That the victim's mom had the audacity to call the victim's innocent friend's killer without any evidence. It literally makes me mad up till now.
I can't believe they'd rather think an 11 yr old did this instead of a violent ex who threatened to kill all their grandkids too. Either they benefitted somehow saying this in public or they're lacking more than half of their brains.
Whats wrose is somebody made another video - a 13 mintue video talking about it and conclused Jordan was the killer. Everyone the comments are gross, and calling this poor kid a cold blooded murder and that he 'absolutely' killed her. Dispite the fact the video was missing a few details...
The way the police in this case were soooooo sure it was Jordan make suspect that they never really looked for another suspect. In my opinion, Adam is the only one with a CLEAR motive. If they had said Jordan and Kenzie didn't get along or there were some other familial issues between them THEN I could see Jordan as a suspect. That was never the case, it seemed as though they really loved one another. Also, the other kids would have said there were issues because kids will say everything that happened. Sometimes they get coached by adults though...
How can this boy shoot his stepmom before leaving for school when the stepmom told his stepsister and himself to head to the bus stop, so they don't miss the bus?
“Can’t be the ex…. He doesn’t even know where she lives!!!” Kenzie: *has an order of protection against ex which gives him her address so that he knows where to stay away from* What?????
THANK YOU! And the fact that he JUST found out that one of her daughters wasn’t his like? 🙄 They were so fixated on it being Jordan. The ego is disgusting
Rapist and those who commit absolutely horrendous crimes go free because “lack of evidence” yet the “lack of evidence” in this case was enough to convict AN 11 YEAR OLD KID?? Like I truly do not understand our justice system. It continues to fail us more and more every day.
I was 4 years old on the day of my father’s death and to this day vividly remember details of what happened. Years later my mother confirmed what I remembered to be true. Later yet, I had a conversation about this and the fact I had memories of my father as early as 1 or 2 with my marriage counselor who was a clinical psychologist. She explained most children don’t have cognitive memories before the age of 5 unless there is a traumatic occurrence (good or bad). Then the little child’s mind clings tightly to the memories he or she deems important. Therefore, the youngest daughter’s account should in no way be so easily dismissed.
i feel like that too. or he would have said something sus to someone he trusted. i can’t imagine committing a murder and then not being able to tell anyone about it as a child. i agree with you
Agreed! I had so much guilt as a child, I could never keep anything from my mom because we were so close. I think he would have broke down and told his dad if he really did it
BUT...HOW would Jordan have done it? He and his sister were sitting on the couch, waiting for the bus, and heard Kinsey tell them to go on out to the bus. SO, she was alive, JUST before they left the house TOGETHER, and got on the bus!
Makes me wonder if the killer was already in the house and she asked him/her to allow the children to leave first. . . I can't recall if they said they "saw" her when she told them to go to school or if she called it out from another room. She was asleep by all counts until they heard her tell them to go on out to the school bus. A good mother, which she was by all accounts, would try to get them out of the house when faced with a potential violent situation. . . Just too many questions left unanswered
OH yeah! That was just mentioned once so by the end of the video I already forgot about it. But yeah, the two kids were together and she heard her mom call to them, then they left. I really think the ex got away with this. They didn't really investigate him enough, I mean no looking for fingerprints at the house or anything? So incompetent.
@@AmbassadorofKing This was my thought as well.. maybe someone (personally I think the ex boyfriend should be looked at more closely, maybe he had some police connections) went into the house after Chris left for work. Early in the morning, before the tree trimming folks got there, but after the kids left for school. Unless I missed it, neither of the kids said they saw the tree trimmers before they got on the bus, but Jordan said he saw a black truck parked outside. I do not believe an 11 yr old could have done this with such precision & went to school like nothing happened. I'm assuming his teachers noticed nothing out of the ordinary. I find it incredibly suspicious that the police didn't process the crime scene for prints. This again makes me think that maybe the ex boyfriend had some connections. A single gunshot to the head to a pregnant woman in her bed by a random person, no motive, no break in, nothing stolen/missing, seems highly unlikely. Execution style killings are pre-planned usually and the ex boyfriend had a violent history of threatening to kill her and her entire family. And he had just found out that one of the kids wasn't his, so he had motive. If he was in the house after Chris left, then he would have easily had access to the guns. He could have even been casing their house to get a feel for their schedule, I mean we just don't know. But the ex certainly had means, motive and opportunity to carry it out. I'm puzzled as to why he was eliminated so very quickly, given the violent history of death threats AND the fact that he drove a black truck which is what Jordan said he saw outside on the way to school. And I agree w/ you about a killer waiting for the kids to leave - I would even further speculate that someone who cared about those kids didn't want them to be traumatized or to have that kind of memory. I hope and pray that whoever did it will be brought to justice.
11 year old who just lost his 'mother' and brother: there was a black car outside our house, I think 11 year old who was dragged out his bed in the middle of the night and convicted for murder: I'm pretty sure there was a man, in a hat, ducking down in the black car Police: yeah the kid is a liar. Let's convict him. How does that make sense??
exactly!! and like, it was an added detail, its not like he said the truck was now red and not black! ppl add details all the time in interviews as they recall things more and more
Okay, but like also, sometimes investigators can convince easily influenced people to say certain things too. A child cannot be truly interrogated because they can’t logically think through most things. So I definitely think they didn’t do the child any justice in this whatsoever.
Especially with what those adults did and what they are into like one of those could have been a gang recruiter or a rapist like come on let’s have some common sense people
I would be embarrassed to be part of that police department. The PD said "there was no way he (the ex) would know she was home alone" I'm sorry if you're outside her house you would see the husband leave, the kids leave and who's to say he hadn't been there before and knew the family's schedule.
@@terrencemchatten4804 polygraphs are bullshit. all that they do is read and record breathing, heart rate, and blood pressure. if any fluctuations occur, then the person is considered to be lying. however people who are truly innocent may just be nervous in general in the hands of the police, people with heart problems may have a faster heart rate which may cause investigators to wrongfully suspect them, etc.
Because some idiot thought it sensible to have multiple guns, including a child sized gun, in a house full of children? Mate, that's normal for Americans.
@@DylanRomanov there is a 20/20 episode all about it that’s been out for awhile on the ABC network. I’m not sure where it’s available to watch but I have 20/20 set on my DVR to record episodes and I just randomly came across it one day a couple years back. I’m surprised not more people have spoken about it though, as I thought it was a pretty big story, and court cases are still ongoing about it. I’m glad Kendall raised awareness!
thats what im thinking! like wtf were police thinking? "yea lets blame it on the 11 y/o with anecdotal evidence and not the crazy ex who abused her, said he would kill her whole family, had multiple court orders from kenzie against him, was seen parked outside by jordan, and recently found out that kenzies youngest daughter wasnt his" makes sense, totally 🙄
I live in Canada and this is fact. We have people here who never clear off their cars except for the wind shield. Like 20 there and back? Pish I’ve seen people drive an hour and a half to the next city with snow still on-top of the car.
Yea it froze the other day and the ice stayed on my hood the whole ride to work even tho it was thin and the truck would have been warm from driving it
Unbelievable that they sent an 11 year old to jail with adults and then found him guilty at 14, with zero proof. This poor guy and family went through absolute hell on top of losing their mom/wife to horrible violence. I hope they win their lawsuit. Someone (prob Adam) is walking free because of some seriously piss-poor investigation and that is tragic.
Her ex boyfriend: Threatening to kill her and her whole family. Seems pretty guilty to me Jordan: Just went to school and said he saw a black truck and her ex drives a black truck. Police: ok, let's arrest the little boy Cuz that makes sense.
How does a perfectly normal kid just go to school like nothing happened after killing his mother?? He literally saw her as a mother figure, called her mom. Something fishy going on with these police officers. If he was able to commit a murder like this, surely there would be more signs of behavioural issues... was a mental health check done? Would love a therapist’s perspective! Poor kid.
her parents blaming Jordan it's almost like THEY didn't like the kid because he was the STEP child. That's not fair to him. He was 11 years old and with her death it's like he lost his Mom. She was the only Mom that he knew, so why would he kill her? he was excited for the baby coming and they all got along. But, for her parents and the police to automatically point fingers at him and say "you did this" is like telling the child he's unwanted in a way. It's BULLSHIT and I am glad his Father stood by his side in all of this. The police are at fault for NOT processing the scene and they can interview a 4 year old during a traumatic event IF they have a child psychologist available. They totally dropped the ball on this case and it's really sad.
I feel so sad for Kenzie whose life was taken, all the signs pointing to a man she was deeply afraid of, and now her own family is trying to blame the child that she loved, and her husband. There has been no justice for her.
But wasn’t Kenzie the one who told them to leave so that they didn’t miss the bus?!?! This is awful police work, so much ‘assuming’ being labeled as ‘evidence’
@@bchazin27 if the sister said that in her first interview... that’s open and shut to me. Even as a small kid I’d NEVER say my dead mom talked to me before I left for school if it didn’t happen. There’s absolutely no gray area there.
that’s exactly what i was just thinking. like both children said Kenzie told them to leave a little early for the bus so they won’t miss it. and her daughter changed her story out of no where to say jordan was playing with guns? even a child would know to tell the cops that their brother was playing with guns the morning her mom was shot. these cops really said 2+2=5🤦🏽♀️
I would thunk he prob does I mean no w ya they actually think that 11 yr old done it over an angry ex. If someone didn't have ties then wow how stupid can u literally be
11-year-olds should not be worrying about being tried for Murder, they should be worrying if their Hogwarts letter will come or not. accusing a CHILD of Murder is honestly awful and the adults are just idiots for accusing a CHILD of murder.
sounds like the ex has friends in the police force - knowing what we know now about police, I'm wondering how many innocent people are in jail based on an officer's word. Absolutely insane!
Theres only one person who actually said they would kill kenzie; Her EX. And theres only one person who found out "their child" wasnt theirs and wanted to kill Kenzie; Her EX.
I feel like Kenzie knew Adam was looking for her, that's why she asked Chris not to go to work that day. Then for Jordan to say he say a black pick up truck outside which is the same car as Adam? Also to use the excuse that snow was still on his truck as a reason for him to be innocent is just pure bs.
A child being arrested for double homicide without 100% clear cut proof is BS and I hope those former police lose the law suit. Pressing to have him tried as an adult was disgusting.
I feel that they need to look more closely at her ex. If she was afraid enough to get a restraining order, then there is something else going on. I'm thinkning her ex could have been stalking her. If he was he could have waited everyday to see what their routine was. I just think they should check him again.
Especially since he found out his child wasn't actually his child. If he were already violent before, then imagine how enraged he would be to find out it isn't his kid. Enough to murder someone? Maybe. Protection orders were put against him, so it's very possible.
My heart hurts because of this young man going through what he went through as a young child without real evidence, yet there are creeps getting waaaay less time for something where there is sufficient evidence and proof then what this child served until he was released 9 years later!
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Psycho ex-boyfriend with black truck who knows she's moved on and having a baby with another man plus has just discovered one child he thought was his, isn't...or 11 year old boy with no motive or criminal history. Wow. Tough one.
Agreed. I don't even know if Adam was the murderer. He could have been. Certainly a more reasonable suspect than Jordan. It does sound like there should have been more investigation into Adam, but the real miscarriage of justice is what happened to Jordan, in my opinion.
And it'd be pretty brilliant to call the home phone to see if she was dead for sure
Also did the police look enough into it? Seems they took the "evidence" in the house pretty lightly and wasted a lot of time trying to pin the child instead of looking more into other possibilities.
A lot of the comments are saying he couldn't have done it because he's 11...James Bulger's killers were 10, Mary Bell was 10. Sometimes children do kill.
Jordan didn't, but some kids do, some kids are crazy!
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I agree, Sara. You've made a good point.
Psychology has shown that police should only interview children one time and record it, using that recording as the kid's testimony at trial, and if it is necessary to reinterview the child, don't ask the same questions. When kids are asked the same questions over and over, they're going to change their answer because they think they answered incorrectly or didn't give the answer the person was looking for. This is something that's used in school all the time: a teacher asks the class a question, the class gets it wrong, the teacher gives them some sort of help to find the right answer, then reasks the question to get the correct answer. Police can't treat children the same way they do adults, it doesn't work.
Yes, I had to get interviewed when I was younger and I was about 9-11 but I got interviewed by police and by investigators or whoever they were I can't remember but they both asked me questions I had already answered, being the only witness it scared me that I thought I answered wrong and I changed my story a bit, but as a child it should be made sure that even if you're an older kid you should be asked questions by someone who is trained to ask kids these types of questions, not a police officer who deals with adults
I agree, especially since it is said that multiple adults were interviewing the kids, which just puts more pressure to the kids to try to say what the adults want to hear.
my thoughts exactly! it was completely unprofessional how the police handled this case!! so frustrating !
Exactly, the police work was extremely unprofessional
Yeah children usually say what they think adults want them to say.
My 11 year old can’t even make a sandwich without leaving evidence.
Lmaooo
Lmaooo 😂
@@TheMillerChild no. That’s just not likely don’t go unnecessarily blaming little girls. It’s already bad as it is that the blame was put on an 11 year old kid now you wanna blame little girls? They’re young, they wouldn’t understand the severity of their actions so would just slip up that they were playing with the gun. They wouldn’t know to keep it a secret.
Seriously!!! My youngest son is 11 (gonna be 12 in 2 weeks) and he can’t take a cookie without leaving evidence (ie pantry door open, crumbs, leaving the empty container in the pantry 😂😂)
My 10 year old can't even make a sandwich
There’s something so evil about kenzie’s family wanting an 11 year old boy to be punished severely….
It’s probably because he was not related to them. My sister is adopted and you would not believe the things she’s been accused of including jealousy of the other kids in the family. It makes me so angry! And I know it’s just because she not blood related. I bet Kenzie’s family had the same feelings about Jordan.
Agreed; very gross.
Yes crazy
I mean, If there was actual physical evidence then I would side with them, but the fact there was no evidence and it was all based on the police taking the easy way out... Children are capable of murder - look at the case of James Bulger, 2 kids tortured and killed him. But there was actual evidence to convict them. In this case there was no actual evidence. I've watched this video a few times now and each time I'm like why wasn't his hands checked for gun powder residue? Yet the dad was and they ruled him out so I feel if they had actually checked the kid when they arrested him it could have actually been sorted that night.
@@cheryleadie2372 this is where we can agree to disagree. Children should not be in jail.
These “investigators” need to be FIRED AND NEVER REHIRED
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Are you kidding me?! They picked the 11 year old over the adult creep who had motive and a violent past?? Great work guys. Wow.
LMFAOO it’s mind boggling as to how senseless some people can be
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Yeah they should've been more thorough. Then her family to really believe that he did it is pretty mean. I would've spoken to him at least. Maybe he just didn't like her family?
The fact that his football friends had parents who were understanding enough to allow their children to visit him made me tear up. That poor boy. Our justice system really breaks my heart sometimes.
Right. Clearly the parents didn't think he was a troubled and dangerous kid
What a smart thought, that does speak volumes!
That was the moment in this video when I said huh. Doesnt make sense that ALL those parents would be okay with that unless they believed that Jordan was innocent.
Why was the other sister not a factor in any of the questioning? Couldn't she have said whether her mom was awake when they left?
It's not a justice system. It's a punishment system that lets bad people go and ruins good people's lives.
And why did Kenzie ask him to stay home THAT day? She still had two weeks to go. Why did she not want to be alone that day? Because her ex was gunning for her and probably made a very recent and specific threat. I'm guessing checking phone records wasn't necessary after all their hot shot detective work sniffing guns, looking at snow and testing laundry piles for GSR.
I partly agree. I had thought that too at first. Like it seems weird that day specifically she wanted him to stay home. Almost like she wanted protection because she feared something would happen. With how heavily pregnant she was, she probably wouldn't be able to run very fast and protect herself and her 4 year old daughter. However, the only part that makes no sense to that theory is, if she had a feeling her ex would be there, why not have told Chris why she wanted him to stay home?
Idk, it’s not all unbelievable for someone to have the baby that early. Plus she may have just been feeling really pregnant and symptomatic that day. I still think it was likely the ex tho.
@@fidelianerina what if she wasnt comfortable talking about that part of her life and just him in general or maybe the way he got in contact with her could have been avoided and maybe she willingly answered him and was ashamed of how far it gotten to where she didnt feel safe in her home? idk theres so many possibilities
I agree I bet it was the ex
You got me at sniffing guns😂
You know what’s really sick? Is that someone out there had a 11 year old take the fall for them.
How can anyone live with the thought of that. Disgusting.
Someone sick enough to plan to murder someone clearly doesn't care about life.
They went as far as blow a pregnant woman’s head off. Setting up an elementary school kid for their crime isn’t that much of a shock at this point.
The perfect crime... committing murder and blaming a child
Well, they murdered someone, who was VERY pregnant. I doubt that having a little kid take the fall is something that a person like that would get upset about. I would imagine that the murderer was just happy that it was little Jordan locked up instead of them.
this boy lost his childhood over no evidence. that’s terrifying and heartbreaking
Kenzie and her baby lost their lives too. Don't miss the Forrest for the trees
how is that illegal? uh,,,?
@@jackdallas6169 uhmmmmmmmm this isn’t really about kenzie?!...
@@anna-sg4oj you have stumbled onto my point, Congrats!
@@jackdallas6169 They’re all victims here
I’m glad Jordan is suing. His whole childhood was robbed with no evidence.
Yeah ay, that never should have happened he was accused with no evidence but circumstantial evidence...🤦♀️
He didn't do it !!
He killed his mom & trying to get money from it, belive it or not kids murder all the time.
@@Sapphire1982 Believe it or not The ex most likely did it.
I hope his family moved out of that town bc they will make that family go though hell
I think the school bus driver's testimony would've be crucial, along with the mortician's estimation of death.
i think so too it might have proved that Jordan wasn't guilty
Jordan and Janessa left around 8:15 according to the 4yr old, when she finally spoke out she said she woke up to a sound of the gunshot around 9am. The detectives thought her statement wouldn’t be credible enough because she was so young.
I agree. I also think asking around at school, further questioning the tree people, and getting some genuine analysis on that gun would be a good idea too. So much was overlooked here
Times of death are not that accurate, they can only give an general estimate. Life isn't C.S.I.
I believe that right when they left to school something happened to Kenzie and because the guns were what Jordan and his father used for hunting the ex wore gloves when he did so in order to frame the dna on Jordan
I can’t believe their only “evidence” and lead was basically “well an adult wouldn’t murder like that” like WHAT?!
Fr because people act like adults know how to murder correctly like bruh
But then they almost tried him as an adult??? They need to check their morals 🙄
@@DevilzBeat_ fr
That kind of excuse is usually used on child suspects
Right!!!??? An adult wouldn't but an 11year old would??? It doesn't even make sense😡🤬 This world SUCKS!
Casey Anthony still walking free and this poor kid was robbed of his childhood. Awful!
Omg i was thinking the same thing because her story changed everytime they talked to her not only that her story even changed in the trial at less 2 different times then she makes up that her dad raped her and she get off scoot free and this little boy changed his story 1 time N lost everything in a blink of an eye come the hell on
I was about to write the same comment
@@teratomago-blosser8665 exactly!! and his "story change" wasnt even super drastic, all he did was add a detail he more than likely just recalled.
100% true statement!!!
OMGGG !! you’re so right. the justice system is screwed up .🙄
“he was jealous of a new sibling being born” ok and her ex couldn’t be jealous that she was having a kid with a different guy?
After finding out simultaneously that his child with her wasn’t his !!!
also after the ex had found out one of the kids he thought was their's wasn't, like obviously he would be mad at her AND the unborn kid because the new kid was with a different guy as well as one of the girls he thought was his own
But there was snow on his truck, solid alibi 😒
I mean I’ve driven around and had snow stay on a truck. It’s called driving carefully 😂. But like if you want to make it look like you didn’t then drive super slow so the snow doesn’t move. But also..Like what if Adam was the one on the other end of the phone that the daughter mentioned was ringing? Like calling to see if anyone noticed him?
@@mckennacousineau8781 And also, where was the snow? Was it on the hood, specifically, or was it in the bed? Did the cop specify? Not all cops have integrity.
Gotta love how her father only said he didn’t like Jordan and he was a troubled kid but then provided no anecdotal evidence. I’ve met some troubled kids and you always have a story.
Yes the police deemed him ",troubled" His stepmother and baby brother are killed and he's being accused of it? Yes I guess he WOULD be troubled. The police never spoke to him before the incident, so how would they have known if he was troubled?
Kenzie asked Chris to stay home that day, can’t help but think she was expecting someone who she didn’t want to be around alone
That’s a really good point 🤔
Good point-did they even check whether the ex had been contacting her??
yes, great point!
It is a good point - it may have been coz she didn’t feel well and wanted help with the 4 year old. Or like u say - it may have also been coz of what she was gonna have to deal with that day ...
oh snap.
Weird how a child’s testimony isn’t considered credible, but a child can definitely be a calculated murderer.
@T Retano having experience shooting guns doesn’t equate to being able to cover up a murder. Chill on the caps lock.
@T Retano having experience with guns doesn't mean someone is a killer, especially since nothing is solid enough to convict an eleven year old. Not to mention your other comments makes me think you don't care about the evidence you just don't like guns and think anyone who owns one is a blood thirsty killer which is stupid as f*ck when it comes to this case
@@frogking6416 who gives the gun to children though? And why the gun was laying around randomly. I know the cops and detectives were absolute morons but Its not unheard of when children shot themselves or their family members by accident because they were playing with gun that wasn’t securely stored.
@@vkrgfan are you American? Bc that explains ur first two questions. Don’t look for too much logic, kids usually start young with guns and parents are uncommonly shit about locking them up or having them in a safe place. Some houses even display them as a warning but idk that one feels less common
@@vkrgfan welcome to the south where kids have guns because hey it's the south. Not to mention everything doesn't even line up for the kid to be considered a suspect, I know killer kids is a thing but he doesn't seem one of them, not to mention he'd have to walk to the bus, leave his sister, walk back to the house, shoot his step mom, change clothes, then walk back in time for the bus
The fact that they didn’t even check for finger prints and immediately pointed fingers at an 11 year old child is crazy.
What was the point . It was his hunting gun . They Checked clothes for gunpowder and it showed up
@@loretobustos1302 no because the residue was tested wrong and never used fingerprints aswell as the gun not being acc gired
Loreto Bustos Finger prints are VERY important. So if it's his gun, then no one else can touch it? Like you have a phone, it's yours, so no one else can use it? Come on. They also said the kid participated in a turkey shoot or something, so yeah, his clothes had gun powder on them. It's pretty clear that the ex did it. The police work here is abysmal.
@@BlueblueN right? Like I think the ex is 100% guilty. He was abusive to the point where she had a restraining order on him. He said he would kill her. Now imagine an abusive ex that already wants to kill you as it is finding out that the child he thought was his wasn’t. That would set him off. They said there’s no way he would know nobody was home but I think that someone like him wouldn’t care about that and his anger would set him off to the point where he just did it anyway. It just worked out in his favor that nobody was home. & maybe he didn’t know that she had a new boyfriend so he thought the only ones that would be there are her little daughters and didn’t care at that point.
@@TheMillerChild that’s a really good theory but I feel like one of the kids would’ve cracked by now and told the police the truth
Something is telling me that her family absolutely hated her husband and his son and instead of getting the real murderer, they wanted it to be an 11 year old boy, because that would be the worst for the both of them. They probably liked the ex more than the person who was kind to her.
So your telling me that the police basically arrested A 11 YEAR OLD and used jealousy as proff... but ruled out a ex boyfriend because he had snow on his car... wow... just wow
Right?
Or even perhaps, he could have shoveled the snow onto his car??
An ex boyfriend who threatened to kill her and her family!!!
But he was ruled out cos he was friendly with the police? 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ Tf
It sounds like a joke. So ridiculous
that’s who did it
It really feels like the police tried to convict that kid as fast as they possibly could. And it's weird how the family just hates him right away for some reason.
Isn't that weird? Why wasn't that investigated? 11 year olds can be troublesome, that does not make them killers. Why do they hate the kid?
@@bluezauza I have a feeling that it has something to do with the fact that he is not related to them if you know what I mean? I think they just wanted to point fingers at someone, it so weird that everybody ignore the crazy ex. There were a lot of things that made him the principal suspect!! The way the police handle everything was just horrible, it makes me think they were friends or something like that with the ex.
@@justhere2403 I agree. There was no investigation, none at all.
right, they barely had any evidence. i also believe that they should’ve asked the teachers how his behavior was when he went to school, was he worried?
To be honest most people right away would hate someone who “Killed” Their family. Me myself don’t think he did their was not enough evidence to prove him guilt especially not putting him in prison for the rest of his life. That is at least what I think.
I feel like her ex probably did it when he found out his daughter wasn’t actually his. & hes just sitting back laughing at the fact that they blamed it all on an 11 year old.
Also the ex boyfriend daughter switched up the story to make it seem like the little boy did it i wonder if she did that to save her dad? Because they thought maybe it was him instead
He should’ve been investigated more!
@@mere2187 Who says he wasn't?
@@Naturegurl124 He seemed to be ruled out pretty quickly
Meredith M too quickly & with the most motive, as he’d just found out the youngest wasn’t his & was posting about it on social media.
I’m so happy that Jordan’s father believed in his son’s innocence and never gave up! I just love that father son relationship they had! Absolutely precious. Those small town detectives are just that, inexperienced. They went through this case with stupid tunnel vision. Hooray,Jordan is suing their ass! I know he’ll win!
The fact that that judge found him guilty at 11 years old with such little and insignificant “evidence”. just makes me realize how much of a joke our judicial system is.
exactly! no evidence but somehow he’s guilty!!
Literally all cause one inexperienced cop sniffed a shotgun in a house full of guns in a country where guns are everyones best friend
There may be more to the story than is reported to the public.
It breaks my heart time and time again
Exactly!!! With no evidence! Everything was circumstantial and “opinions”!!
Her ex had also confronted her and Chris at a nightclub the night before she was murdered which resulted in him being thrown out. But, hey. Snow on the car.
where did you find that info i would love to know more about that
Omg 😳 the x bf so got away with murder. I'm shocked they have not gone back in and tried him.
Was it snowing that day. Snow could have accumulated on the roof of the car if it was still snowing where he lived
@@kathylavoie3105 This doesn't mean anything!!! I have seen cars with snow on top in the streets! it is cold and it won't melt! So if you don't remove them it will stay there. This is just crazy
@@mahnazha yes Now they should go get the real killer instead of trying to pawn it off on our 11-year-old boy. My 11-year-old grandson couldn’t come up with something like that and like one other lady said my 11-year-old grandson can’t make a PB&J without making a mess and leaving behind evident
One side:
11 yo. "was kinda weird"
Other side:
Adult. Violent past. Restraining order. Paying child support - kid is not his. Threatened family. Black truck. Stalker.
Police:
LET'S BRING THE KID TO JUSTICE
I can't wrap my head around it, how It is that adult men so often get away with such a terrible crimes!
I think it's the ex boyfriend to
It doesn’t make sense that they thought it was the child
"bUt hE wAs sO nIcE aND cOoPeRaTiVe, he couldn't have done it!" 🙄🙄
That's Pennsylvania for ya!
I just heard about this case and it struck me immediately that the police focused in the 11 year old child. He would be the last suspect in my mind. 24 hours later they arrested him... who would do that. I think that police deparment was corrupt and they knew the real killer.
Ex boyfriend : have a restrictive order against him
11 yo boy : goes to school
Police : it's the little boy.
Lol
lollllll
Omg. Made me choke on my own spit. Lol
right... these cops are weird and dumb.
@@alexw3925 I'd bet my house the ex has some accointances in the local PD...
I'm just so incredibly baffled that her abusive ex was completely clear over "snow being present on top of his vehicle." What the actual fuck?
And a polygraph... which isn’t even accurate enough to be used as evidence in court 🤦♀️
@@nickigregersen1826 exactly
if they were proper detectives they'd test that theory, we all know snow is really hard to get off a car. I'm just so disgusted.
It also makes no sense, because it appears that hours have passed since the murder. It’s perfectly possible that it snowed during that time and that’s why snow was present on top of his vehicle. Even discounting the fact that snow can stick to roofs of cars, especially if the snow was partially melted and the refroze.
He could have stole/borrowed/owned/rented another car and left it somewhere.
Everyone with a brain after hearing that her ex threatened to kill her: oh so he's the most likely suspect
Cops: yeah but there was also this 11 year old boy at school too
OMGGGGG, I love this one
he had snow on his black truck, it can't be him (days after it happened)
Hahaha seriously. So ridiculous.
@@0bscur3rose lmao right
Bro but didn’t Jordan gone with his step sister cause it was him and the other girl couldn’t she be a witness
"Common sense is not common to the common men."
I wish Jordan and his Dad all best on their way forward because they deserve it so so much.
The ex boyfriend literally threatened to kill her and that’s documented with the restraining order. Then she said she ends up dead with no evidence? Come on, why would you not look into that?
Corrupt officials cause corrupt results
@MEDICAL CRUSADE no they never tested his hands they tested clothes from a laundry bin and the whole family shoots
@MEDICAL CRUSADE He saw a black truck outside. and the ex had a black truck. Besides, the motive is pretty weak.
The ex has a stronger motive than the kid. Plus the ex didnt even have an alibi. They just assumed that he wadnt there cause there was snow on his truck.
@MEDICAL CRUSADE And no if it's on your clothes it's on there till it's washed off. Gun powder don't just leave your shirt. A few hours on your hand because you wash your hands all the time.
In her ex Just found out the one little girl was not his so he was pissed And killed her and Jordan said he seen a black truck and didn’t think anything of it I really like police officers but in this case they’re fucking stupid just saying
So a four-year-old is not a credible witness, but an eleven-year-old can be sent to prison for life without parole.
In all 50 states witnesses in criminal trials must be four years of age or older and they will be testifying period.
Actually I think that's a great point....why did they ask her if she had seen anyone in the home that day?
right
There was a couple of ten-ish Yr olds who murdered a 2 Yr old in the UK I think it was around 1980 ish
@@jordangann7438 red headed freckle faced 10 yo kid that lured a 4 yo and brutalized the 4 yo with a tree stick ( you know what i mean ) and a large rock.
They can’t be putting people away for life with what they “feel” happened!
If we were all "felt guilty" by someone, the whole planet would be imprisoned....which it feels like during Covid ;-) Tragic, disgraceful case. Poor kid. Poor mom & unborn baby.
They sadly do this all of the time :(
Ikr.. and then rape cases involving kids they get 6months or some dumb shit. Smh Or killers with more evidence and they are walking around free... sad
I agree but it definitely happens more to people of color than any race he just got really lucky that he was able to be set free
Yeah the amount of cops saying "Our theory is" in that interview was ridiculous. They were way over their head, I grew up in a rural area and the cops there would not know the first thing about solving a murder.
The Police Force really did not investigate this case thoroughly and professionally. There was no strong evidence to prove that Jordan did do it. If he did shoot her, how come the daughters and the men outside didn't hear when the gun went off?! May both souls R.I.P!! My prayers are with you and your father Jordan.
I personally think Kenzies family just wants someone to blame and they have no one else except Jordon, that’s why they’re so convinced that it’s him.
100%
yup
Yes!!!!!
Exactly what I’m saying to my bf rn. They rather blame an 11 year old then not have anyone to blame at all.
Yep. I feel for them tho
I understand that Kenzie's family is in pain, but they are being absolutely cruel to Jorden and Chris...
They're the type of family that you see when someone else admits they did it would still be saying that Jordan did it.
I completely agree. I was absolutely disgusted by the "Chris needs to look in the mirror and tell himself that I'm the father of a murderer" comment. What the fuck? That's soooo unfair, even if Jordan DID do it... That's just wrong.
They're evil tbh
SO TRUE
Exactly!
This case makes me so mad, they took away Jordan’s childhood without ANY real proof that he did it
and he’s still going through it to this day, put through all this trauma for no damn reason. i saw the 20/20 episode a few years back and the fact that he’s still having to go through court cases is just maddening. i don’t think he ever got the chance to truly grieve or even grow up properly because of this. i feel for him so much. he’s probably so confused.
yep its sad and raging when adam was probably the one killing her cause he ad restrain order against him for wanting killing her,being violent....
Ally it’s so sad because Jordan isn’t the only one who is going through this so many other kids and teens in America are going through this police corruption/incompetence😕 it’s really scary to think how America’s prison systems are literally businesses they make money for putting and keeping people in jail
For Kenzie's family to so adamantly claim that Jordan is the killer, even without any real evidence, it makes me wonder if one of her family members actually killed her. The only other thing I can think of is that they really, really didn't approve of her and Chris' relationship, and this fueled their belief that his son was the killer.
I was actually going though the comments like wtf why would her family be so adamant to push the full extent of the law on a little boy other than they got some kind of benefit from it... just bc "they had a bad feeling all of a sudden" wtf is that he's an 11yr old boy hes awkward...they all are!!! I honestly think your on to something like it's just so messed up like even if he did he's still eleven and your the only ppl who have ever seen anything funny about him not one single person other than you guys?! Smh thank God justice was actually served bc I don't think he did it at all!!!
I really question how Kenzie’s mother is able to confidently, without even blinking an eye, call an eleven year old a murderer.
She looks like a very pleasant person.
Bet police drilled it into their heads but they should have had some doubt from jump
Right?
Or the DA brainwashed them or they didnt like their daughters decisions
It seems like they just believed what they were told. Like maybe they were so desperate to see someone go down for their daughters murder that they would blame anyone
If they lock up 11 year old that easily with no evidence I don't wanna know how many other lives were destroyed by crappy police and court work.
Watch "confession tapes" on Netflix it's ridiculous
That's the reason one man sacrificed his life in order to prove that and that's how the death penalty has been taken off the menu now in some states. Kevin Spacey played him in a movie.
Way too many.
“Theres going to b a lot of mixed opinions in the comments” *everyone collectively agreeing tht this was bs*
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@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Love your name lmao.
@@abic5468 puke
@@jimmynuccio5045 aw u mad doggie?? biden’s your president, if you don’t like it , leave !!
@@aden.e Biden is no President, he is nothing more than a puppet imposter. 🤣
The swamp/Democ-rats are the hand and Biden is the old man puppet 😂
I'm from the town this happened in and i worked at the jail when Jordan was brought in. He seemed so lost and scared. Thank you for covering this story so respectfully. It is still a very hot debate here, even after all this time. Great video 💚
but what about me and my sister who were lost and scared without our mother ?
@@addihouk6951 Yes, I agree that you were the truest victims. Somehow this gets overlooked in this case and it's very upsetting. I think it has a lot to do with sexism/ male privilege.
While I don't know a lot about the details of the case, it seems likely Jordan did it. It is so rare and unusual that a child that age could or would do something like that, but the access to weapons literally might have been the perfect storm.
The father is at the very least negligent for having all of those firearms unlocked/unprotected/ within reach of a child.
I am truly sorry for the loss of your mother and the trauma you endured, and still continue to endure.
@@addihouk6951 Who do you think murdered your mother.
@@mariellencressman9624it’s super wild that you came to that conclusion. It’s just as likely one of the daughters did it that Jordan did it. Guns in the house, janessa and Jordan left at the same time. With that logic maybe she was in on it. It’s sounds pretty ridiculous doesn’t it? There’s literally no evidence linking him to the murder which is proven in this video, and anything they might have had could’ve easily been pinned to any one of them in that house. It’s actually more likely that the ex boyfriend did it. At least he had a motive. Poor kid still getting dragged for something he very obviously didn’t do
How do the adults think “yeah, has to be a child. Not a psycho ex boyfriend with motive, and multiple protective orders against him.”
Guess the victims family and police never heard of Occam’s razor. 🙄
Neither the police nor the victim's family seem that intelligent.
Exactly! 🙄
Well he had a “restraining order “ out against him and you know people always follow those (heavy sarcasm for those who think I mean this)!!
I totally agree with u I think it is the psycho ex who had a motive and was violent towards Kenzie so terrible that they think it is Jordan!!!!
the lengths people go to protect grown ass men
the whole thing with Kenzie's family insisting that Jordan has a "dark side" absolutely reeks of "we're not happy our daughter got remarried to a man who already had a kid". i just can't imagine why else or _how_ else they could justify that to themselves, justify wishing the death penalty on this tiny 11 y.o. child... it's completely unbelievable. and like Kendall pointed out, IF Jordan did do it, the timeline doesn't make a lick of sense. NONE of the prosecuting argument against Jordan makes sense.
Yes they probably really liked Adam or something crazy
Also I bet he like. Sassed them or said something rude, because he was eleven and kids have no sense of tact.
Exactly what I thought too
@@AlphabetSoup3000 in some cases i would agree, however seeing his dad and how he has loved and raised his son i dont think that he would find that behaviour acceptable. My partner passed at the end of 2019 and our youngest child was 11 and i give her some lead way on acting out but i would not accept her lashing out at someone (other than me) as we all should know that others are not responsible for accidents that happen. This has happened once, to a close family friend but that is still no excuse.
i’m sorry but who would fire someone who just lost their girlfriend, child, and had another child in custody??? omg
that is terrible. some jobs have no compassion
ikr? the world is too cruel, i hate capitalism
Corporate America, thats who.
Exactly what I was thinking!!! How cruel.
Literally every single company in America.
If he did it, you'd think Janessa would have heard more than just the one sound she mentioned. I find it incredibly unlikely that (A) the shot to the head was so sudden that there was no time for Kenzie to shout something like "NO!" or "JORDAN, STOP!", (B) the 11-year old was so composed that he blew someone's skull open and then went to school without making a sound, crying, etc, and (C) said 11-year-old wouldn't break down and admit what he did at some point, especially if he was told doing so would make the Scary Stuff stop.
Ex boyfriend: *Has a black truck, has made threats against kenzie, orders against him, had been staying low entire time, youngest daughter mentions the boom at a time when Jordan wasnt home*
Jordan: *gets arrested*
You nailed it!!! The ex boyfriend must have friends in the police force or payed some people off!
He will get his one day! Letting an 11 year old get the blame!!
As soon as I hear abusive ex I get frustrated because it’s so obvious!!!! He literally threatened to kill her!!! Duh it was him!!!
@@cassidy983 though this is true in a lot of cases *including this one* sometimes abusive partners aren’t the killer Bc they genuinely love the person they’re abusing.. like most abusers were abused so that’s all they know to do
@@cassidy983 TOTALLY STILL AGREE WITH U THO
Also the police wrote him off mainly over a polygraph? Did he have an actual alibi? And idk about the snow on the truck thing, snow can definitely stay on a truck while driving, no?
Police : "Adam didn't do it because there is still snow on his truck"
Me: *drives 70mph down parkway* Come on snow get off my damn truck!!!!
Yup I drive on the highway an hour and still have snow on my car like wtf is this way of thinking
Ikr💀
Seriously though. I’ve seen it stay for days and tons of miles
😂 Ikr? Cop thought he was Sherlock Holmes!
Right?! Such bs.
I'm willing to bet the ex-boyfriend was a buddy of a few of the police officers.
Exactly my thoughts
Probably payed them off
Nice Profile Pic 👌
Yeah I’m really getting suspicious with these endless cases where the police are so quickly making the more outrageous claims instead of the far more common.
When you hear hoofbeats think horses not zebras.
@@jimon0724 I love that metaphor, never heard it before
I personally think it’s the ex. It’s beyond sickening that her family thinks this child did this. All evidence points to the ex. He deserves an apology at minimum. I can’t image the PTSD he has.
If i have a restraining order against someone and then get murder... please make that person the NUMBER ONE suspect
You would think! But he had to have ties to the police department.
No that’s not how it works you can’t just have a restrictive order against someone and say oh we have no evidence against him that guy done it because he has a restrictive order
@@salvare381 They didn’t even look into him enough so of course they have no evidence😐 just like they had no evidence of Jordan being the killer
@@salvare381 ummm. Didn’t say to charge someone with no evidence??? Said the person I have a restraining order against should be the number one suspect. As in should be investigated thoroughly...
@@salvare381 you sound like someone that has a restraining order against them lol
The way Kenzie’s family acted towards and about Jordan afterwards is absolutely disgusting. The police work was so sloppy and half assed. The assessment of the ex was so terribly done. Even the story Kenzie’s daughter told seems odd. Everyone was so worried about “solving” and closing this case, that nobody even took the proper time and assessments to evaluate the case properly. This case is heartbreaking, Jordan was terribly failed.
Exactly my thoughts!
I literally just wrote out my comment saying the same thing. Its bullshit and the department just wanted the case closed
And that notion tore that family apart.
This reminds me of an episode of forensic files I watched where a person was wrongfully convicted and they were so shocked because the idea that the justice system could EVER get ANYTHING wrong was just so foreign, it had never even crossed their mind. That’s insane to me. I can’t understand just blindly believing police and the justice system with how corrupt it is. I think they might be the kind of people who just believe whatever the police say.
@@rossvegas1346 yup! But in all reality, police make the MOST mistakes, and can never own up to them.
The photo of him sat in prison with his head down when all his football friends came to visit him absolutely broke my heart😢😢😢 poor boy this case is so so so unfair it’s unbelievable
as someone who only owns big breed dogs and does bitework etc, i also worked at a dog daycare where there were small breeds like yours and i can say for a fact your dog is the most well behaved small breed i have ever seen. i love her
Why would they be so sure it wasn’t Adam? He finds out his child isn’t his and on top of that his ex is with a new guy, happy, and pregnant. Sounds like motive to me
Amen to that! I have one pulling this crap right now with my oldest daughter!
@@hjfox1 really girl stay safe. hopefully he can grow up and change!
The police reasoning was that there was snow on his car still (of he had done it,which I'm 100% sure about) after he drove all the way to Kenzie's and back....and he passed a polygraph
Your actually kidding me with that, my mom drives me to college and back and then to work and there is still snow on her car. Plus polygraphs are pretty easy to pass apparently.
sNoW iS sTiLL oN tHe CaR cAnnOt PoSsIbLY bE hIM mUsT be tHe cHiLd
"When they questioned him, his story changed." Me: HES LITERALLY 11 I LIED TO MY DOG AT 11
also when a suspects story stays exactly the same even in details it's sometimes used as an argument for it being made up
@@2Hoot4u1 Yeah you get accused if your story changes, and you get accused if it stays the same.
And the ONLY part they said changed was, HE SAW A MAN IN THE TRUCK WITH A HAT ON...... That's not exactly a "change in story", that's recalling MORE DETAILS 🙄🙄
And are extra details really a "changing" story??
But they use his step sister’s story who is younger as evidence when she changes her story as well
The thought of an 11 year old sitting in prison with practically zero evidence breaks my heart.
Have you ever seen killer kids? Yea don’t feel too bad. Kids can be killers too
@@leightadesse9385 but he’s not the killer.
@@leightadesse9385 I guess that's why they said "with practically zero evidence." They're not saying they're sorry for the kids who have actually murdered others.
Then change the current system where if a child backchats a teacher and doesn't immediately listen, just as one example, the POLICEMAN who is the security, takes them to spend an hour or two in real solitary in a real prison. Then they wonder why that same kid has a 50/50 chance of making that their home as an adult.
That needs to change - make the punishment fit the crime and the age, period. If it does not change, look at the parent, because the child is the result, the product, not the cause.
@@stoned8433 but he is. But hey what do I know??? 🤦♀️🙄
What’s crazy is they spent all of this time trying to pin this on that child, while the real killer is still living their life! Smh WILD!
I can’t imagine an 11 year old wouldn’t crack if he did it and either confess or tell someone. Damn I felt guilty if I didn’t return a library book on time when I was 11.
Right?! oh they definitely would end up confessing- the tactics that police interrogators have will get smart, prepared adults with experience with police to confess- it’s hard for me to imagine an 11 year old having the cognitive ability to lie through an interrogation, especially without any former issues (no fighting or history or abuse, he was a good inmate, no other signs of psychological problems that would cause an 11yr old to murder). Also I think 4 year olds will def remember events like that... I remember some preschool and kindergarten events that weren’t traumatic.
@@jillmarie3841 - you said it, sister!!!!
As someone who lives in Canada and is very used to driving with snow on my car, I can say with 100% conviction that it is possible to drive and not have the snow fall off your vehicle, especially if it’s wet sticky snow and there’s no wind. I think it was the ex.
I agree with the snow comment, I've driven countless times with seemingly untouched snow on the hood of my car. I think almost all of us think it was the ex, and it speaks even more to his lack of integrity that he would let a little kid take the blame for him.
I completely agree, same here. Snow acts differently depending on what kind of snow it is. If it was dry powder sure it'd come off but virtually any other kind will stick. There's a reason those brushes exist on the windshield scrapers.
No same. I play this game in my area (Michigan) and just "guess" who owns a garage and who has to park outside, because the latter ALWAYS have snow on their car. And a ton of it, to boot.
Yep! im from Canada too and i also had snow stay on my vehicule going to work. I always try to take it off for security of other cars but if im late, its staying on... If the kid did it, the other would have known. Two kids were waiting for that bus. I believe that black car was a big clue that was overlooked.
I'm from wisconsin and I agree, cause it's not even just one type of snow that sticks, there's like 5 types of snow that would hold to the roof.
So when Janessa, who's younger than Jordan, changes her whole story, it's credible. But when Jordan adds a small detail to his previous story it's a complete lie?
I think they had personal issues here
@@outtaspace1566 most definitely personal issues. god damn it watching this case multiple times made me super mad, I cant fathom how Jordan and his dad must be feeling for years
And what are the odds she was coached before the 2nd interview?
@@annettejones7777 My thoughts exactly, probably keep asking her similar questions over and over til she tell them what they need for the statement. Even the victim family seemed like they've been talked over by the police and convinced them how likely that Jordan is the one who did it.
He is a liar and a murderer!!
It’s beyond terrible that they convicted him, a child, without proper evidence, but how they did it… he was a child. During arrest and imprisonment, not allowing him parental support, or even counselling… tragic.
What the f are you talking about... That boy is guilty as heck..
Kenzie's mother calling Jordan a "murderer" with her whole chest without any proof made my blood boiled. Also ok he might have misbehaved sometimes like any other regular 11 years old boy would still that doesn't make him a "bad kid" let alone a killer
EXACTLY
the same thing happened here in my country. That the victim's mom had the audacity to call the victim's innocent friend's killer without any evidence. It literally makes me mad up till now.
I can't believe they'd rather think an 11 yr old did this instead of a violent ex who threatened to kill all their grandkids too. Either they benefitted somehow saying this in public or they're lacking more than half of their brains.
The aggressive way her family was talking was BS. Are you kidding me? He’s eleven?! And your dubbing him a psychopath with no evidence. Sickening.
He broke her garden gnome and since then she’s held a grudge 😂
Ok, i hate Kenzie's parents. I think they hated Chris. And by association they hated Jordan. This whole case makes me so fuckin angry.
The way they talked about an 11 year old was disgusting.
Whats wrose is somebody made another video - a 13 mintue video talking about it and conclused Jordan was the killer. Everyone the comments are gross, and calling this poor kid a cold blooded murder and that he 'absolutely' killed her. Dispite the fact the video was missing a few details...
I agree
i have a feeling kenzie's parents or someone in the family did it
The way the police in this case were soooooo sure it was Jordan make suspect that they never really looked for another suspect. In my opinion, Adam is the only one with a CLEAR motive. If they had said Jordan and Kenzie didn't get along or there were some other familial issues between them THEN I could see Jordan as a suspect. That was never the case, it seemed as though they really loved one another. Also, the other kids would have said there were issues because kids will say everything that happened. Sometimes they get coached by adults though...
Adults can’t even murder without leaving evidence, so how can 11 year old do all of this?!
My sandwich can’t even make an 11 year old without leaving evidence
@@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper true, true.
Honestly!! I mean Chris even said that an 11 year old can’t even plan a birthday party, let alone a murder!
Exactly. Like there is NO way on EARTH he could’ve killed someone with no evidence left behind
@@apri9601 yes he did!!!
How can this boy shoot his stepmom before leaving for school when the stepmom told his stepsister and himself to head to the bus stop, so they don't miss the bus?
CAN'T BELIEVE there is a human being out there that let an 11 year old child take the fall for them. It's disgusting.
the actual murderer may have been in the shadows laughing at police for blaming an innocent child for a crime they committed themselves.
That was my thought too!
The murderer doesn't care, its not about anyone else's happiness except his own.
The fact that an adult wouldn’t really choose a shot gun because it breaks off and has too many pieces??
My thoughts exactly.
“Can’t be the ex…. He doesn’t even know where she lives!!!”
Kenzie: *has an order of protection against ex which gives him her address so that he knows where to stay away from*
What?????
Exactly
Not to mention the kids mentioning the black truck outside
No forreal!! He could’ve been stalking her the whooole time! Not that they even looked into that possibility
THANK YOU! And the fact that he JUST found out that one of her daughters wasn’t his like? 🙄
They were so fixated on it being Jordan. The ego is disgusting
"Oh he still had snow on the top of his truck. That couldn't possibly have been on there the 20 miles there and back to commit this murder!" 🙄🙄🙄
Rapist and those who commit absolutely horrendous crimes go free because “lack of evidence” yet the “lack of evidence” in this case was enough to convict AN 11 YEAR OLD KID?? Like I truly do not understand our justice system. It continues to fail us more and more every day.
Everyday
a guy got 5 years for murdering his wife and admitting to it
We need a purge of the government and police and start over again
@@callanightshade8079 gen z 🙏
At least he didn’t end up like George Stinney, Jr. He was actually executed.
I was 4 years old on the day of my father’s death and to this day vividly remember details of what happened. Years later my mother confirmed what I remembered to be true. Later yet, I had a conversation about this and the fact I had memories of my father as early as 1 or 2 with my marriage counselor who was a clinical psychologist. She explained most children don’t have cognitive memories before the age of 5 unless there is a traumatic occurrence (good or bad). Then the little child’s mind clings tightly to the memories he or she deems important. Therefore, the youngest daughter’s account should in no way be so easily dismissed.
I feel like as a young child under all that stress he’d have admitted it..
i feel like that too. or he would have said something sus to someone he trusted. i can’t imagine committing a murder and then not being able to tell anyone about it as a child. i agree with you
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I wouldn't have been surprised if, under all that stress, at 11 years old, he'd have admitted it despite being innocent! Adults do that.
@@StrategicGamesEtc my thoughts exactly
Agreed! I had so much guilt as a child, I could never keep anything from my mom because we were so close. I think he would have broke down and told his dad if he really did it
BUT...HOW would Jordan have done it? He and his sister were sitting on the couch, waiting for the bus, and heard Kinsey tell them to go on out to the bus. SO, she was alive, JUST before they left the house TOGETHER, and got on the bus!
Makes me wonder if the killer was already in the house and she asked him/her to allow the children to leave first. . . I can't recall if they said they "saw" her when she told them to go to school or if she called it out from another room. She was asleep by all counts until they heard her tell them to go on out to the school bus. A good mother, which she was by all accounts, would try to get them out of the house when faced with a potential violent situation. . . Just too many questions left unanswered
That's what I said and then the step sister changed the story and left out that kenzie talked to them to leave early
OH yeah! That was just mentioned once so by the end of the video I already forgot about it. But yeah, the two kids were together and she heard her mom call to them, then they left. I really think the ex got away with this. They didn't really investigate him enough, I mean no looking for fingerprints at the house or anything? So incompetent.
Exactly! Agreed! I was thinking same thing!
@@AmbassadorofKing This was my thought as well.. maybe someone (personally I think the ex boyfriend should be looked at more closely, maybe he had some police connections) went into the house after Chris left for work. Early in the morning, before the tree trimming folks got there, but after the kids left for school. Unless I missed it, neither of the kids said they saw the tree trimmers before they got on the bus, but Jordan said he saw a black truck parked outside. I do not believe an 11 yr old could have done this with such precision & went to school like nothing happened. I'm assuming his teachers noticed nothing out of the ordinary. I find it incredibly suspicious that the police didn't process the crime scene for prints. This again makes me think that maybe the ex boyfriend had some connections. A single gunshot to the head to a pregnant woman in her bed by a random person, no motive, no break in, nothing stolen/missing, seems highly unlikely. Execution style killings are pre-planned usually and the ex boyfriend had a violent history of threatening to kill her and her entire family. And he had just found out that one of the kids wasn't his, so he had motive. If he was in the house after Chris left, then he would have easily had access to the guns. He could have even been casing their house to get a feel for their schedule, I mean we just don't know. But the ex certainly had means, motive and opportunity to carry it out. I'm puzzled as to why he was eliminated so very quickly, given the violent history of death threats AND the fact that he drove a black truck which is what Jordan said he saw outside on the way to school. And I agree w/ you about a killer waiting for the kids to leave - I would even further speculate that someone who cared about those kids didn't want them to be traumatized or to have that kind of memory. I hope and pray that whoever did it will be brought to justice.
11 year old who just lost his 'mother' and brother: there was a black car outside our house, I think
11 year old who was dragged out his bed in the middle of the night and convicted for murder: I'm pretty sure there was a man, in a hat, ducking down in the black car
Police: yeah the kid is a liar. Let's convict him.
How does that make sense??
Seriously. I can't form complete sentences at 3 in the morning on a normal day, never mind after losing my mother to murder.
exactly!! and like, it was an added detail, its not like he said the truck was now red and not black! ppl add details all the time in interviews as they recall things more and more
Okay, but like also, sometimes investigators can convince easily influenced people to say certain things too. A child cannot be truly interrogated because they can’t logically think through most things. So I definitely think they didn’t do the child any justice in this whatsoever.
Kenzie’s moms reaction to that that 11 year old is absolutely DISGUSTING
Imagine being 11 years old in a prison with adults, that'd be traumatizing
Especially with what those adults did and what they are into like one of those could have been a gang recruiter or a rapist like come on let’s have some common sense people
@@Lavender11108 America is FAILING SO MANY
I would be embarrassed to be part of that police department. The PD said "there was no way he (the ex) would know she was home alone" I'm sorry if you're outside her house you would see the husband leave, the kids leave and who's to say he hadn't been there before and knew the family's schedule.
Yeah it’s called stalking right? And she had a restraining order :/
He passed a polygraph test tho
and whose to say he wasn't planning on killing the entire family? chris, jordan, all the kids.
@@terrencemchatten4804 polygraphs are bullshit. all that they do is read and record breathing, heart rate, and blood pressure. if any fluctuations occur, then the person is considered to be lying. however people who are truly innocent may just be nervous in general in the hands of the police, people with heart problems may have a faster heart rate which may cause investigators to wrongfully suspect them, etc.
@@terrencemchatten4804the thing with polygraph test is that's so not always 100% correct
His poor little face in the mugshot oh my goodness
That just absolutely broke my heart. 😓
I know 😔
This is so so sad. Where are his bloody clothes or Any sign of proof!? I am so glad he is out and just heartbroken for all they have endured.
"Her hair caught all of the blood" 🙄
this is literally one of the most infuriating cases i’ve ever heard
I know! How is this not more talked about? I feel like this should be a good example of how NOT to do an investigation
Check out Khalif Browder
Because some idiot thought it sensible to have multiple guns, including a child sized gun, in a house full of children?
Mate, that's normal for Americans.
@@DylanRomanov there is a 20/20 episode all about it that’s been out for awhile on the ABC network. I’m not sure where it’s available to watch but I have 20/20 set on my DVR to record episodes and I just randomly came across it one day a couple years back. I’m surprised not more people have spoken about it though, as I thought it was a pretty big story, and court cases are still ongoing about it. I’m glad Kendall raised awareness!
Also, did the police check out Adam the same day this occurred or when did they check him out? Had it snowed since the murder?
So a grown man who SAID he would kill her, was seen on the property, and has motive was considered less suspicious than a kid who loved her? :|
thats what im thinking! like wtf were police thinking? "yea lets blame it on the 11 y/o with anecdotal evidence and not the crazy ex who abused her, said he would kill her whole family, had multiple court orders from kenzie against him, was seen parked outside by jordan, and recently found out that kenzies youngest daughter wasnt his" makes sense, totally 🙄
I think it was a tip off honestly. Crooked cops
Well apparently no one saw the truck, only Jordan.
@@barpal7804 but even if Jordan didn't know this guy, so HOW could he have guessed that he drove a black truck like
Snow isn’t an alibi! You can drive for HOURS before the snow melts off the top of your car, and if it’s at all frozen it won’t just blow off!
Exactly! Snow can be super heavy and will stick to a vehicle for days after driving!
Exactly, I still have snow on my car fr a snowstorm that happened last week tbh
Minneaotan here. Yes, was l what a ridiculously weak argument.
I live in Canada and this is fact. We have people here who never clear off their cars except for the wind shield. Like 20 there and back? Pish I’ve seen people drive an hour and a half to the next city with snow still on-top of the car.
Yea it froze the other day and the ice stayed on my hood the whole ride to work even tho it was thin and the truck would have been warm from driving it
Unbelievable that they sent an 11 year old to jail with adults and then found him guilty at 14, with zero proof. This poor guy and family went through absolute hell on top of losing their mom/wife to horrible violence. I hope they win their lawsuit. Someone (prob Adam) is walking free because of some seriously piss-poor investigation and that is tragic.
Her ex boyfriend: Threatening to kill her and her whole family. Seems pretty guilty to me
Jordan: Just went to school and said he saw a black truck and her ex drives a black truck.
Police: ok, let's arrest the little boy
Cuz that makes sense.
Man, what can you say ?
How does a perfectly normal kid just go to school like nothing happened after killing his mother?? He literally saw her as a mother figure, called her mom. Something fishy going on with these police officers. If he was able to commit a murder like this, surely there would be more signs of behavioural issues... was a mental health check done? Would love a therapist’s perspective! Poor kid.
Pennsylvanian cops are trash. I'm just speaking from personal experiences with Pennsylvanian cops.
Lousy cops. Also maybe one of them is related to or is a buddy of her ex.
Ikr! So annoying!!
her parents blaming Jordan it's almost like THEY didn't like the kid because he was the STEP child. That's not fair to him. He was 11 years old and with her death it's like he lost his Mom. She was the only Mom that he knew, so why would he kill her? he was excited for the baby coming and they all got along. But, for her parents and the police to automatically point fingers at him and say "you did this" is like telling the child he's unwanted in a way. It's BULLSHIT and I am glad his Father stood by his side in all of this. The police are at fault for NOT processing the scene and they can interview a 4 year old during a traumatic event IF they have a child psychologist available. They totally dropped the ball on this case and it's really sad.
Yes! That's what I was thinking as well...her parents didn't like him or didn't want him so they blamed him. So awful.
True
I feel so sad for Kenzie whose life was taken, all the signs pointing to a man she was deeply afraid of, and now her own family is trying to blame the child that she loved, and her husband. There has been no justice for her.
If she is/was watching this all unfold she would be so heartbroken that a child that she loved is being wrongly convicted. Allegedly
You said it perfect!!!! She would be heartbroken to hear her family talk about them like this
KB- YES,YES, YES
@@YuLingZeng313 except she brought that evil into his life by cheating on her ex and lying to him about his daughter
@@kiradownie5717 that means she deserved to die?
Not only did a woman and her unborn child lose their lives, but this kid lost his childhood.
But wasn’t Kenzie the one who told them to leave so that they didn’t miss the bus?!?! This is awful police work, so much ‘assuming’ being labeled as ‘evidence’
This genuinely bothered me throughout the whole video. I’m hoping there’s some clarification on this!!!
Information probably from Jordan and the sister so there’s obviously no way to 100% prove that happened.
@@bchazin27 if the sister said that in her first interview... that’s open and shut to me. Even as a small kid I’d NEVER say my dead mom talked to me before I left for school if it didn’t happen. There’s absolutely no gray area there.
Pennsylvania cops are awful.
that’s exactly what i was just thinking. like both children said Kenzie told them to leave a little early for the bus so they won’t miss it. and her daughter changed her story out of no where to say jordan was playing with guns? even a child would know to tell the cops that their brother was playing with guns the morning her mom was shot. these cops really said 2+2=5🤦🏽♀️
I wonder if the ex-boyfriend has ties to the police and that's why they decided not to investigate him
that’s definitely possible in a small community
100% small town bullshit!
Would not be surprised
I would thunk he prob does I mean no w ya they actually think that 11 yr old done it over an angry ex. If someone didn't have ties then wow how stupid can u literally be
Who said he wasn't investigated though?
Mad respect to Chris for not turning on his son despite the media and Kenzie’s family !!
Yes, we Stan strong, loving fathers :)
Ha love the name and I agree with your statement ☝️
Yes !!!!
go to hell
@@addihouk6951 who the hell are you talking to?
11-year-olds should not be worrying about being tried for Murder, they should be worrying if their Hogwarts letter will come or not. accusing a CHILD of Murder is honestly awful and the adults are just idiots for accusing a CHILD of murder.
sounds like the ex has friends in the police force - knowing what we know now about police, I'm wondering how many innocent people are in jail based on an officer's word. Absolutely insane!
Theres only one person who actually said they would kill kenzie; Her EX. And theres only one person who found out "their child" wasnt theirs and wanted to kill Kenzie; Her EX.
yeah and he could've very well snuck in
Agreed. That's such a strong motive yet, they chose the route of, "Jordan was jealous". What a joke.
Amen.
I feel like Kenzie knew Adam was looking for her, that's why she asked Chris not to go to work that day. Then for Jordan to say he say a black pick up truck outside which is the same car as Adam? Also to use the excuse that snow was still on his truck as a reason for him to be innocent is just pure bs.
And they didn’t check for fingerprints! Like wtf?! This guy had to be friends with a cop or something
@@JennyJeanRazzle I know right! Something just doesn’t seem right at all!
I've had snow on top of my car driving fast on the highway an HOUR AWAY I drove FARTHER THAN HIM and I had snow on my car.
I am wondering now if there was any snow on the car Jordan saw
That’s a great point like why would she want him to stay, it’s not like she was going into labor or anything
I am 21 years old and I can't even brush my hair without leaving evidence
A child being arrested for double homicide without 100% clear cut proof is BS and I hope those former police lose the law suit. Pressing to have him tried as an adult was disgusting.
I feel that they need to look more closely at her ex. If she was afraid enough to get a restraining order, then there is something else going on. I'm thinkning her ex could have been stalking her. If he was he could have waited everyday to see what their routine was. I just think they should check him again.
Yup exactly same thing I said to my bf.
Especially since he found out his child wasn't actually his child. If he were already violent before, then imagine how enraged he would be to find out it isn't his kid. Enough to murder someone? Maybe. Protection orders were put against him, so it's very possible.
The ex probably has close ties to the police force. So they look the other way.
I agree. They were too quick to blame an 11 year old boy.
@@Hollyweeds that thought crossed my mind as well
all the evidence is SO circumstantial. like that’s not enough to convict, no matter his age
Just plain STUPID !!
My heart hurts because of this young man going through what he went through as a young child without real evidence, yet there are creeps getting waaaay less time for something where there is sufficient evidence and proof then what this child served until he was released 9 years later!