@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker if i have more possession, I would swap the anchor to a regista. My second tactics are a 5 box 1 DM WB, with a DLP - Regista - Enganche - Trequartista. Still trying to imitate Benfica/Leverkusen in real life.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker so my enganche and trequartista are playing on the right side, with raumdeuter, SV and poacher on the left, both E and T have the most CCC and assist positional play where either one will either go in out push up or move down. Now there's another role combo I enjoyed when your video of SS and DLF played (auto play), so the opposition swapped to 523 WB Wide/Narrow, I pushed my SV into SS on the left side, my Championship team beaten a Premiership team 5-3 (Carabao Cup). Your player roles video are a game changer for me, especially with having FM25 pushed to March. * I was doing the hybrid tactics with my left positions are goal scorers while right positions are possession retainers
I have many hopes coming from this video. Most notably: 1) You are planning on exploring every combination even those that make no sense (no-nonsense centre back & Trequartista in the striker position) 2) There's a hidden chapter 5 where Lanzini ignores that chapter 5 isn't there and just talks about his love for River Plate
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I always thought he looked like quite an approachable fella when he played for West Ham. Like he might answer your first call and be very polite. The immediately block your number upon hanging up.
@@mustermannfm River Plate fan here. Manu seems like a very chill guy, he probably would answer his call. It's so cool to see a FM youtuber playing with River Plate, I never expected that. Vamos River, carajo!
Enganche, Poacher, and Raumdeuter will give you some of the craziest goals of any trio. You saw some of them in this video... ...and they'll do nothing for you when defending, so get ready to try and win matches 4-3 🤣🤣
Stinger did a video a while back where he did well with a full no-press 4231 with very generic player roles. I feel like there's some synergy to be had.
Yes, liking the pair up videos. Looking forward to wing play and target forward pairing (advanced forward, poacher, pressing forward etc) videos. Class as always.
Your videos are awesome, I used to be most interested in the transfer side of FM but finding your channel I've been inspired to experiment more tactically (rather than just select whatever roles my players have high stars in). Also, love the Miami Vice style colour palette and production!
thank you for taking the time to comment :) really awesome to know that the videos are helping you in the FM journey And I feel the Miami Vice palette are strangely fitting for Football Manager :D
I feel like most traditional number 10s have traits that conflict the enganche's hard coded instructions. You need someone there who's strong but also has a high level of flair and the ability to navigate congested spaces plus be amazing at first touches and passing. Honestly no one comes to mind immediately, except maybe someone like Zlatan though I doubt he ever played that role.
I don’t know if we are suggesting current or historical examples but if historical: Juan Roman Riquelme or Jari Litmanen. Enganche was killed as a role by double DM systems. Any modern players will be in roles that drift in and out of the hole, like false 9
Your videos made me not afraid to use the NFB. I always assumed it was for like Boomer ManU 90s football. I started using it at a reasonably high level, fixed a lot of my ball retention issues in possession
IWB is a good choice too. I like using the Libero because I love the role 🤣🤣 but also when you use the Libero with two No Nonsense Full Backs, you get a super wide back-3 formation, and I've been liking that setup recently
Thank you for another great video, how would you say this roles behave on defense? Which play style do u think works the best with those roles? Keep it up! 😊
The Poacher will stay up top and doesn't track back to play defense really. And the Enganche will drop, but it's more that they'd like to get the ball rather than helping out defensively. So both don't really do very much. And these are definitely attack focused roles. They can be good in possession style too. Not so much defensive or counter. Hope that helps :)
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker on FM21 i played a poacher and a F9 in a 424 formation. Thats literally the only time ive managed to get a striker to score 40 goals a season consistently.
back in 2013, I was still just learning about football (soccer for us). There was a player named Eder Alvarez Balanta and I always liked him.. ever since then I've always had a soft spot for River Plate :)
Hi I am korean fan. I am enjoy watching your videos. And I want your tactics data more specific. Can you upload your tacitcs?? Or I want to know about Team guildlines. Your video is very very interesting because you use roles that are not main stream. Thx
thank you for the comment :) For the tactic, there are only three team instructions: positive mentality, shorter passing, and slightly higher tempo. And no player instructions so it should be easy to recreate. Thank you again and let me know if you have any more questions I will be happy to help
Hey man can you help me with something? I really want to play a 343 diamond midfield (Cruyffs barca/Peps city but diamond instead of box), im trying to achieve this by defending in 4231, with 2 IFB, & a Libero. The issue is, my Libero doesn't move into the #6. He plays in this weird left cdm position, as if theres supposed to be a double pivot. If i play him centrally in the 4back, he moves up into the 6 perfectly, Attacking wise this plays perfect, but defensively obviously this leaves a huge gap between him and the left back as the defense is lobsided. Is the only way for a Libero to move into the 6 to play a 5 back? Maybe i could try a 3 back with slightly more defensive wingers? Let me know if theres anyway i could achieve a 343 diamond, Thanks if you get back to me
Through reading this, ive come to the conclusion that im terrible at explaing things, i'll just visualize how i want to play in possession LOL GK o o o o o o o o o o Look at it.. Its perfect
it is beautiful. What's funny, is I've tried for ages to get some kind of 3-1-2-3-1 Ajax style formation to work. Often times I'm excellent in attack and get crushed on the counter since the flanks are non-existent To answer your question, I don't think there's a way to get the Libero in the CDM position where he's not offset. He always wants that double pivot. If I was going to try, I would do the 3-4-3 but use Defensive Wingers like you mentioned. They're more pressing/tackling focused, but may be a better starting point
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Man, ive been fiddling around with it for days! Even going as far as using 5 backs with 2 IWB's to use as 8's, trying Liberos on support to try and use him as an 8 aha. Maybe next year they'll implement a way to get this formation. Thanks for getting back to me, if you end up finding a way please dont forget me😅
I guess one of the reasons why enganches and poachers arent that popular is that they are kinda "1v1" roles. So if ur enganche is better than the DM hes gonna play killer pass after killer pass but if is off the ball is worse than the opponents marking and defensive positioning hes gonna be marked out of the game most of the times. Same with the poacher. Btw are u playing ur raumdeuter inverted, so with the left foot on the right side or regular?
@@MarceloAlahid-vm3if Well interms of skillset the enganche and the poacher are maybe the most generic ones. cause the enganche has the same skillset as a advanced playmaker.
Enganche, poacher and raumdeuter in a single formation is the most football hipster thing I’ve ever seen, I love it 😂
Libero too man. Can't be a proper hipster without a libero.
Lol cbs have a lot of time on the ball lol
oh gosh you're right.... and like wheels said, a Libero too??? haha
YES!!! My current main tactic except the winger is a trequartista
thank you for the gift my friend :) and I love the tactic!! what other roles are you using??
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker if i have more possession, I would swap the anchor to a regista. My second tactics are a 5 box 1 DM WB, with a DLP - Regista - Enganche - Trequartista. Still trying to imitate Benfica/Leverkusen in real life.
@@sidfederallaw3429 How do you like the Enganche and Treq together?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker so my enganche and trequartista are playing on the right side, with raumdeuter, SV and poacher on the left, both E and T have the most CCC and assist positional play where either one will either go in out push up or move down. Now there's another role combo I enjoyed when your video of SS and DLF played (auto play), so the opposition swapped to 523 WB Wide/Narrow, I pushed my SV into SS on the left side, my Championship team beaten a Premiership team 5-3 (Carabao Cup). Your player roles video are a game changer for me, especially with having FM25 pushed to March.
* I was doing the hybrid tactics with my left positions are goal scorers while right positions are possession retainers
I have many hopes coming from this video. Most notably:
1) You are planning on exploring every combination even those that make no sense (no-nonsense centre back & Trequartista in the striker position)
2) There's a hidden chapter 5 where Lanzini ignores that chapter 5 isn't there and just talks about his love for River Plate
he probably wouldn't return my calls, but could we get Lanzini on a podcast???
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I always thought he looked like quite an approachable fella when he played for West Ham. Like he might answer your first call and be very polite. The immediately block your number upon hanging up.
@@mustermannfm River Plate fan here. Manu seems like a very chill guy, he probably would answer his call. It's so cool to see a FM youtuber playing with River Plate, I never expected that. Vamos River, carajo!
@@mustermannfm P.D.: Lanzini seems more like a Trequartista than an Enganche IRL. Maybe our last great Enganche (in River) was Juan Fernando Quintero.
If this guy was a your life teacher you'll definitely be on GOD mode in everything you do. Blessed on delivery skills
thanks haha!!!
Enganche & Poacher + Raumdeuter + Segundevalante, sounds like a sick combination!
Sounds like a menu from a 5 star posh restaurant😉
Poacher - Trequartista - Enganche - Raumdeuter - 2 Anchors
The 0 Gegenpress Anti-Klopp
Flaccid Metal
Enganche, Poacher, and Raumdeuter will give you some of the craziest goals of any trio. You saw some of them in this video...
...and they'll do nothing for you when defending, so get ready to try and win matches 4-3 🤣🤣
Stinger did a video a while back where he did well with a full no-press 4231 with very generic player roles. I feel like there's some synergy to be had.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker dayum, my craziest match was a 7-6 and a 6-5 that makes anyone at the edge of their seat.
Yes, liking the pair up videos. Looking forward to wing play and target forward pairing (advanced forward, poacher, pressing forward etc) videos. Class as always.
thank you :) I feel like I need to to a whole mini-series on striker pairings because there's so many good ones
Your videos are awesome, I used to be most interested in the transfer side of FM but finding your channel I've been inspired to experiment more tactically (rather than just select whatever roles my players have high stars in).
Also, love the Miami Vice style colour palette and production!
thank you for taking the time to comment :) really awesome to know that the videos are helping you in the FM journey
And I feel the Miami Vice palette are strangely fitting for Football Manager :D
thanks for the new upload .. keep that good work going
🙌🙌
Great video and of course, the hat collection continues to be one of the big stars of this whole thing - the Expos hat 🔥🔥🔥
if anything ever happens to me, make sure they save the hat collection haha
I love your videos bro, u have taught me a lot about this game
glad to hear it :)
I really like your videos, pls do more about role combinations
thank you :) I'm looking forward to doing more of these in the future
I feel like most traditional number 10s have traits that conflict the enganche's hard coded instructions. You need someone there who's strong but also has a high level of flair and the ability to navigate congested spaces plus be amazing at first touches and passing. Honestly no one comes to mind immediately, except maybe someone like Zlatan though I doubt he ever played that role.
I don’t know if we are suggesting current or historical examples but if historical: Juan Roman Riquelme or Jari Litmanen. Enganche was killed as a role by double DM systems. Any modern players will be in roles that drift in and out of the hole, like false 9
The Enganche is the one role where I'm really curious what the player's instructions are doing under the hood.
The only Enganche I know is Ganso from Fluminense
My man can disappear from the match but still very influential to his team’s attack, quite amazing
Ganso was such a good player albeit inconsistent
sounds very Enganche-y... I'll have to check him out!!
Your videos made me not afraid to use the NFB. I always assumed it was for like Boomer ManU 90s football. I started using it at a reasonably high level, fixed a lot of my ball retention issues in possession
I've joked about the NFB being underrated, but it's seriously underrated. No other role will allow you to create a shell and pin the opponent in.
Yaaay, a combi roles content!
really excited to getting back to some role combos :D
Really love this combination!!🎉
they're freaking awesome together
I prefer an IWB rather then using Libero to back up VOL role. Thanks for the tips btw. We keep going
Doesn't that leave your flank exposed to quick counter attacks?
@treacheroustiger5571 True, I feel like libero has more risk so I have to give up something
IWB is a good choice too. I like using the Libero because I love the role 🤣🤣 but also when you use the Libero with two No Nonsense Full Backs, you get a super wide back-3 formation, and I've been liking that setup recently
@@treacheroustiger5571 yea that's the weakness for an IWB. Gives you more support in attack, but more exposed on a counter
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I would swapped between the NFB and IWB depends on opposition wingers positions
Enganche + Poacher
Sounds like something I should try 😂
please do! they're awesome together haha
Thank you for another great video, how would you say this roles behave on defense? Which play style do u think works the best with those roles? Keep it up! 😊
The Poacher will stay up top and doesn't track back to play defense really. And the Enganche will drop, but it's more that they'd like to get the ball rather than helping out defensively. So both don't really do very much.
And these are definitely attack focused roles. They can be good in possession style too. Not so much defensive or counter. Hope that helps :)
Funny. Two roles I never got a lot out of....
Lets put them on the field together, that will make them work 😅.
My channel's goal is to make the Poacher popular haha
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker on FM21 i played a poacher and a F9 in a 424 formation. Thats literally the only time ive managed to get a striker to score 40 goals a season consistently.
@@abedfo88 the F9 and Poacher are elite together. Used them in my F9 video; they carried us to a promotion challenge
a river plate save? 🤩🤩
back in 2013, I was still just learning about football (soccer for us). There was a player named Eder Alvarez Balanta and I always liked him.. ever since then I've always had a soft spot for River Plate :)
Hi I am korean fan.
I am enjoy watching your videos.
And I want your tactics data more specific.
Can you upload your tacitcs??
Or I want to know about Team guildlines.
Your video is very very interesting because you use roles that are not main stream.
Thx
thank you for the comment :) For the tactic, there are only three team instructions: positive mentality, shorter passing, and slightly higher tempo. And no player instructions so it should be easy to recreate. Thank you again and let me know if you have any more questions I will be happy to help
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Thank you for your answer.
Needs more attacking duties
Need to use a Trequartista instead of a Winger on the other flank lol
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Trequartistas everywhere!
Which players exemplified the role of the Enganche in your opinion?
A few others have pointed me on to Riquelme, a true playmaker
Hey man can you help me with something? I really want to play a 343 diamond midfield (Cruyffs barca/Peps city but diamond instead of box), im trying to achieve this by defending in 4231, with 2 IFB, & a Libero. The issue is, my Libero doesn't move into the #6. He plays in this weird left cdm position, as if theres supposed to be a double pivot. If i play him centrally in the 4back, he moves up into the 6 perfectly, Attacking wise this plays perfect, but defensively obviously this leaves a huge gap between him and the left back as the defense is lobsided. Is the only way for a Libero to move into the 6 to play a 5 back? Maybe i could try a 3 back with slightly more defensive wingers? Let me know if theres anyway i could achieve a 343 diamond, Thanks if you get back to me
Through reading this, ive come to the conclusion that im terrible at explaing things, i'll just visualize how i want to play in possession LOL
GK
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Look at it.. Its perfect
it is beautiful. What's funny, is I've tried for ages to get some kind of 3-1-2-3-1 Ajax style formation to work. Often times I'm excellent in attack and get crushed on the counter since the flanks are non-existent
To answer your question, I don't think there's a way to get the Libero in the CDM position where he's not offset. He always wants that double pivot.
If I was going to try, I would do the 3-4-3 but use Defensive Wingers like you mentioned. They're more pressing/tackling focused, but may be a better starting point
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Man, ive been fiddling around with it for days! Even going as far as using 5 backs with 2 IWB's to use as 8's, trying Liberos on support to try and use him as an 8 aha. Maybe next year they'll implement a way to get this formation. Thanks for getting back to me, if you end up finding a way please dont forget me😅
Enganche :
AMF✅️
OMF✅️
SS✅️
CMF✅️
Poacher :
CF✅️
SS✅️
ST✅️
I guess one of the reasons why enganches and poachers arent that popular is that they are kinda "1v1" roles. So if ur enganche is better than the DM hes gonna play killer pass after killer pass but if is off the ball is worse than the opponents marking and defensive positioning hes gonna be marked out of the game most of the times. Same with the poacher.
Btw are u playing ur raumdeuter inverted, so with the left foot on the right side or regular?
These are special roles unlike generic roles like dlp or ap are so many players today fit that role.
@@MarceloAlahid-vm3if Well interms of skillset the enganche and the poacher are maybe the most generic ones. cause the enganche has the same skillset as a advanced playmaker.
Pablo Solari is my main Raumdeuter and he's right footed (reasonable left foot though). He just likes hitting those inverted passes I guess haha
2 inverted wingbacks and a half back video?
oooo i like that idea... and even the idea of doing trio combinations
Waiting for build-up tutorial but EnganchexPoacher is okay
all in due time ;)
Enganche + poacher = Enforcer ?
Did you mean McSorley 😂
🤣🤣 I guess Luc Robitaille would be the playmaking Winger in this case???
The most used combination by all FM streamers 😂😂😂😂😂
P.S.
Both roles can be good with players low on pace
I do wonder how many times the words "Enganche" and "Poacher" have been used in a video this many times haha
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker you probably matched the whole history of FM on RUclips with a single video ahahahahahah