I bought the S5IIx with 20-60mm, 50mm and 70-300mm. I took the Blackmagic VideoAssist 12G, SmallRig 99 V-mount batteries and stacked them in the rig. An excellent combo for run n gun travel documentaries. Stabilization is perfect, I no longer use a tripod or gimbal. I record everything handheld. BRAW is a dream, flexibility in DaVinci is top. Although I also have the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8, I think the Lumix 20-60mm kit lens is a great choice. Way less sharp than Sigma but gives a good film look in my opinion.
Does anyone have a preference when it comes to photos? I want a S5IIX for the video, but I think I might like the R6 II more for photos. And I do both…
Since you've covered Canon R6 mark II, Lumix S5IIX , and Sony A7IV. I would like to see this 3 cameras being compared to each other, if which is better for which.
Good video but sounds like you missed a few big video features on the S5iix like Open Gate, recording to SSD, ProRes, Proxy recording, Frame-io integration, shutter angle, timelapse
Awesome comparison brother. Panasonic has definitely checked all of the boxes for me and made me leave the canon system. That doesn't mean Canon doesn't still hold a place in my heart. LOL!!! If Canon starts to offer more in their hybrid cameras like lumix does, and not try to drain accounts, then I might consider adding them back into my life. Until then Lumix has a major advantage especially for what I do when it comes to documentary/music video work in multiple environments.
Upto 30 fps, the S5IIX has a whole stop advantage in DR. At 4k 60fps, they're about the same as the S5IIX needs to crop in to APSC. Canon is limited by CLog3 as the DR in photography is quite close to the S5IIx.
your videos are great, subbed. decided photography again as a hobby and bought my first full frame camera after watching your videos. chose the s5iix with 20-60, 50mm and it comes with a free 85mm part of the deal. gonna try learn a bit of videography as well. main use will be urban/street photography, secondary use for outdoor/wildlife as I bought a sigma 150-600 with it. i had a nikon d7000 i havent used in years but didn't want to invest into older F lenses so I'll adapt my AF and AI lenses to my new camera instead.
I agree. Others disagree in the comments for some reason, but to me in this video and several other comparison videos, the lumix immediately looks better
It especially feels that way if you compare with third party options for e.g. Sony. But if you compare e.g., Canon RF 50mm f1.2 on BH with Sony 50mm f1.2 on the same website, they both actually cost the same ($2000). With that said, the Sony lens is newer so it might go down slighty in price as time passes (to like $1800).
@@TerraThink Sony 50mm 1.2 is a fair bit lighter, less CA and sharper with smoother transitional bokeh compared to the canon - you're getting more quality for the price compared to the canon RF 50mm 1.2
@@infantfrontender6131 Yes, Sigma is always cheaper (Tamron too). But a lot of people are a bit mistrusting of 3rd party lenses. So they prefer to pay double to get native glass. Otherwise Sony probably wouldn't be selling any lenses themselves :p Just bodies for Sigma & Tamron lenses.
I don’t know if it’s a RUclips compression issue (I haven’t download the files yet), but in the lowlight comparison the Canon side, on 640 ISO has pretty severe macroblocking, and falls apart pretty quickly when ISO starts going up. I’m perplexed, because the S5 side seems to be much more usable in all conditions. And the same with some shots on the porch, where the highlights rolloff on the Canon is simply abysmal. I’ll check the files soon and see for myself.
After some tests I can say that the macro blocking is totally absent on the file, and even using RUclips on the PC; just a TV issue, a suppose. Still, I can see Canon preference is to give an edge on skintones but it's pretty yellowish as soon as the lights goes down. The Panasonic is more natural looking in low light. Noise is pretty much comparable, the Canon is a little bit smoother, but also darker and less detailed and maneuverable (Pana is easy to match to Canon colors, less easy is the opposite). It goes down to personal choice, not a clear winner, for me.
Video is becoming more popular than photography because you can extract photos from a video but not the other way around. Photography will never die though. Canon needs to catch up and respect their amature users a bit more.
@@snowwalker9999 Canon needs to catch up how? They recently released two so called hybrid lenses that are way more video focused than they ever had before. RF 24-105mm f2.8 & RF 35mm f1.4 And this is seemingly just the beginning. Rumor has it that two more such hybrid f1.4 primes are coming this year (likely 24mm & 50mm).
@@TerraThink we were talking about sensors and camera feature not lenses. No needed to take it personally. Everybody knows Canon makes the best lenses.
@@snowwalker9999 I do have a Canon, but I've looked into switching to Sony, and I've previously been fond of Panasonic (MFT sensor). It doesn't matter to me if you like Canon or not. And I'm not sure if they always make the best lenses. Sony, Tamron etc. have released some great glass in later years (Sony 24-70 f2.8 II, Sony 70-200 f2.8 II, Tamron 35-150mm f2-2.8 for instance, and I'm very curious about the rumored Sony 85mm f1.4 II). I was just wondering in what way you thought they needed to catch up? :) What sensor tech/camera features do you see a lack of in Canon's lineup?
@@snowwalker9999 Just look at the canon R8. Which full frame camera at this price range give’s you oversampled 60fps 4K Video without crop? They have a great camera line up for beginners. But the lenses are expensive.
I have aS5IIX...and it´s a 6k sensor. So actually 6k it´s of course better than 4k, and it´s 4k it´s downsampled from 6k...so...perhaps this video it´s not as accurate as could be, he he. But somethigis true: both are great cameras. Just S5IIX has a lot of functions and every single button it´s customizable.
@@KenseiAkatsu yeah i saw this video, S5II vs Fx30 and this video was amazing. 🔥 But S5IIX is newer version. And price is too close. So most people can get new information from you.😊❤️
The s5iix is amazing, however, there’s a lot of reports that lumix s line lenses have poor QA, and suffer from glue or whatever separation which causing noticeable bubbles inside the lens. I checked my 50 1.8 and I can see thick layer of separation around the glass, I don’t know if it will degrade more and how is that affects the image. But it’s very very disappointing and worrying. I hesitate if to invest in this system or get rid while I still do not have a big park of lenses. What a shame!
@@KenseiAkatsu It's quite hard to notice at first even if you have it. I was using a flashlight and inspecting it under daylight same time, but when you see it, it's obvious, thick round layer around the edges somewhere inside. UPDATE: looked at my 20-60, and there's oil spots just behind the front glass around the plastic/metal ring of the zoom element. I'm quite honestly shocked. I've never seen anything like this even in my 50+ years old glass... if they don't fix these production lines, it will be the end of lumix.....
for me Canon is better in every aspect its even not close in skintone and contrast aspect, BUT this big "but" stabilisation is on the whooooole different league and this is so important! because gimbals are mess... but if with gimbal canon is way better
Canon is great with handling skintones, but one thing many Canon users that I know complained about (with the 5D, to be sincere) is how, in lowlight, everything is just yellow. I hope the R mirrorless series doesn’t have the same issue.
@@Promikes Good to know, but still, I want to see how the results are in harsh environments like tungsten lowlight situations. I'm messing a bit with the files and I must say that the R6 is quite good. It all goes to personal preferences, speaking of color science
Canon absolutely shitty ibis. If you want some kind use in as videographer, you need buy ONLY lenses with stab. But even in RF L lenses (not all of them) did not have stab. Even if you use lenses with stabilization, there’s still the problem of overheating, low bitrate, and the utterly ridiculous mechanism that shuts off the camera when you urgently need to swap the SD card. 😂
That's not even a question, until Canon stops treating its customers like garbage and allows third-party lenses. 😂😂 But anyway it's interesting to watch this video.
I bought the S5IIx with 20-60mm, 50mm and 70-300mm. I took the Blackmagic VideoAssist 12G, SmallRig 99 V-mount batteries and stacked them in the rig. An excellent combo for run n gun travel documentaries. Stabilization is perfect, I no longer use a tripod or gimbal. I record everything handheld. BRAW is a dream, flexibility in DaVinci is top. Although I also have the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8, I think the Lumix 20-60mm kit lens is a great choice. Way less sharp than Sigma but gives a good film look in my opinion.
I like the colors better on Canon but there's no denying the IBIS is just unstoppable on Panasonic.
I like how Canon shoots skintone!
And yeah Panasonic is just on fire about that
Does anyone have a preference when it comes to photos? I want a S5IIX for the video, but I think I might like the R6 II more for photos. And I do both…
S5IIX... overall
@@KenseiAkatsu Thanks for the feedback!
If Sony and canon had a baby. It would look like the LUMIX. I had both. Nice middle ground.
That is the best metaphor!
I agree 100% lol
Downloadable files are no longer available. 😭😭
Since you've covered Canon R6 mark II, Lumix S5IIX , and Sony A7IV. I would like to see this 3 cameras being compared to each other, if which is better for which.
Thank you for sharing those files so we can compare side by side. Very helpful video
Good video but sounds like you missed a few big video features on the S5iix like Open Gate, recording to SSD, ProRes, Proxy recording, Frame-io integration, shutter angle, timelapse
Thank you so much for mentioning those!!
why not combination lumix x canon lens
i already tried it , using sigma adapter l mount to ef lense Af really good
Great option!
Thanks for suggesting, I will try it!
I just got this setup too. Insane 🔥
Awesome comparison brother. Panasonic has definitely checked all of the boxes for me and made me leave the canon system. That doesn't mean Canon doesn't still hold a place in my heart. LOL!!! If Canon starts to offer more in their hybrid cameras like lumix does, and not try to drain accounts, then I might consider adding them back into my life. Until then Lumix has a major advantage especially for what I do when it comes to documentary/music video work in multiple environments.
can you send the link to the files its not working
Great video 🎉
Thank you 😁
good comparison! do you remember what AF settings were used on the S5II @13:53 ?
I guess it was max
The lens has a big impact on the test: difficult to get an opinion because you should have the same lens on the two camera to be neutral.
Wondering was the dynamic range in log near similar as it’s not mentioned?!
Upto 30 fps, the S5IIX has a whole stop advantage in DR. At 4k 60fps, they're about the same as the S5IIX needs to crop in to APSC. Canon is limited by CLog3 as the DR in photography is quite close to the S5IIx.
your videos are great, subbed. decided photography again as a hobby and bought my first full frame camera after watching your videos. chose the s5iix with 20-60, 50mm and it comes with a free 85mm part of the deal. gonna try learn a bit of videography as well. main use will be urban/street photography, secondary use for outdoor/wildlife as I bought a sigma 150-600 with it.
i had a nikon d7000 i havent used in years but didn't want to invest into older F lenses so I'll adapt my AF and AI lenses to my new camera instead.
The colors of the Lumix S5ii x are way better in my opinion.
They both have great uniqueness but I like Lumix better too
I agree. Others disagree in the comments for some reason, but to me in this video and several other comparison videos, the lumix immediately looks better
The colors are better for Lumix, but when it comes to portraiture and skin tone, Canon is better.
Canon lenses are super expensive compared to others in the competition.
It especially feels that way if you compare with third party options for e.g. Sony.
But if you compare e.g., Canon RF 50mm f1.2 on BH with Sony 50mm f1.2 on the same website, they both actually cost the same ($2000).
With that said, the Sony lens is newer so it might go down slighty in price as time passes (to like $1800).
@@TerraThink Sony 50mm 1.2 is a fair bit lighter, less CA and sharper with smoother transitional bokeh compared to the canon - you're getting more quality for the price compared to the canon RF 50mm 1.2
Yeah, no third party lenses = no Canon for me!
@@TerraThink, don't forget about Sigma 50mm f/1.2 for E and L mounts. It cost $1.4k
@@infantfrontender6131 Yes, Sigma is always cheaper (Tamron too). But a lot of people are a bit mistrusting of 3rd party lenses.
So they prefer to pay double to get native glass.
Otherwise Sony probably wouldn't be selling any lenses themselves :p Just bodies for Sigma & Tamron lenses.
I don’t know if it’s a RUclips compression issue (I haven’t download the files yet), but in the lowlight comparison the Canon side, on 640 ISO has pretty severe macroblocking, and falls apart pretty quickly when ISO starts going up. I’m perplexed, because the S5 side seems to be much more usable in all conditions. And the same with some shots on the porch, where the highlights rolloff on the Canon is simply abysmal.
I’ll check the files soon and see for myself.
After some tests I can say that the macro blocking is totally absent on the file, and even using RUclips on the PC; just a TV issue, a suppose. Still, I can see Canon preference is to give an edge on skintones but it's pretty yellowish as soon as the lights goes down. The Panasonic is more natural looking in low light. Noise is pretty much comparable, the Canon is a little bit smoother, but also darker and less detailed and maneuverable (Pana is easy to match to Canon colors, less easy is the opposite). It goes down to personal choice, not a clear winner, for me.
Video is becoming more popular than photography because you can extract photos from a video but not the other way around. Photography will never die though. Canon needs to catch up and respect their amature users a bit more.
@@snowwalker9999 Canon needs to catch up how?
They recently released two so called hybrid lenses that are way more video focused than they ever had before.
RF 24-105mm f2.8 & RF 35mm f1.4
And this is seemingly just the beginning.
Rumor has it that two more such hybrid f1.4 primes are coming this year (likely 24mm & 50mm).
@@TerraThink we were talking about sensors and camera feature not lenses. No needed to take it personally. Everybody knows Canon makes the best lenses.
@@snowwalker9999 I do have a Canon, but I've looked into switching to Sony, and I've previously been fond of Panasonic (MFT sensor).
It doesn't matter to me if you like Canon or not.
And I'm not sure if they always make the best lenses. Sony, Tamron etc. have released some great glass in later years (Sony 24-70 f2.8 II, Sony 70-200 f2.8 II, Tamron 35-150mm f2-2.8 for instance, and I'm very curious about the rumored Sony 85mm f1.4 II).
I was just wondering in what way you thought they needed to catch up? :)
What sensor tech/camera features do you see a lack of in Canon's lineup?
@@snowwalker9999 Just look at the canon R8. Which full frame camera at this price range give’s you oversampled 60fps 4K Video without crop? They have a great camera line up for beginners. But the lenses are expensive.
I have aS5IIX...and it´s a 6k sensor. So actually 6k it´s of course better than 4k, and it´s 4k it´s downsampled from 6k...so...perhaps this video it´s not as accurate as could be, he he. But somethigis true: both are great cameras. Just S5IIX has a lot of functions and every single button it´s customizable.
True.
With that said, S5IIX is better in video
@@KenseiAkatsu Yup. It is
Please make a video of lumix s5iix focus performance in 120/100fps
4k60 crop is deal breaker for me. No to s5iix, sony a7iv
The First Take: Kensei Akatsu 😎😎😎
Waiting for you to comment about it lol 😂😂😂
Can we get FX30 vs R6II
and Also FX30 vs S5IIX?
It will be more fun, Apsc vs Full Frame with similar price point. 😁👀
I did S5II vs FX30 before, so check it out!!
R6II vs FX30? Interesting...
@@KenseiAkatsu yeah i saw this video, S5II vs Fx30 and this video was amazing. 🔥
But S5IIX is newer version.
And price is too close.
So most people can get new information from you.😊❤️
@@KenseiAkatsu Come on, R6 will humiliate fx30, it is better in everything. fx30 - is a bad joke
love this video
thank you !!
The s5iix is amazing, however, there’s a lot of reports that lumix s line lenses have poor QA, and suffer from glue or whatever separation which causing noticeable bubbles inside the lens. I checked my 50 1.8 and I can see thick layer of separation around the glass, I don’t know if it will degrade more and how is that affects the image. But it’s very very disappointing and worrying. I hesitate if to invest in this system or get rid while I still do not have a big park of lenses. What a shame!
Oh really?
I didn't know there was that issue. I gotta check mine.
@@KenseiAkatsu It's quite hard to notice at first even if you have it. I was using a flashlight and inspecting it under daylight same time, but when you see it, it's obvious, thick round layer around the edges somewhere inside. UPDATE: looked at my 20-60, and there's oil spots just behind the front glass around the plastic/metal ring of the zoom element. I'm quite honestly shocked. I've never seen anything like this even in my 50+ years old glass... if they don't fix these production lines, it will be the end of lumix.....
@@KenseiAkatsu Nah...
I have 24/35/50/85 of lumix primes about 2-3 years and don't see the problem you are talking in any of the lenses.
If you are worried about LUMIX lenses, just buy Sigma 🤷🏻♂️
But wait…Which one motivates your sensibilities…?
I see you are one of KA family 😎
...S5IIX for me
Any camera but a Nikon is outstanding in 2024 😅. Sony, Canon, and now Panasonic best autofocus of 2024.
I gotta check it out!!
Goodluck buying 😂 cf express card for Nikon
Can't let you say that, the Z6iii is just out of this world, nobody come close enough for less than 3k€
so this is a comparison in video????
Mainly yeah
for me Canon is better in every aspect its even not close in skintone and contrast aspect, BUT this big "but" stabilisation is on the whooooole different league and this is so important! because gimbals are mess... but if with gimbal canon is way better
Canon is great with handling skintones, but one thing many Canon users that I know complained about (with the 5D, to be sincere) is how, in lowlight, everything is just yellow. I hope the R mirrorless series doesn’t have the same issue.
@@fedzciulla I use r6 from release, don't see this problem
@@Promikes Good to know, but still, I want to see how the results are in harsh environments like tungsten lowlight situations.
I'm messing a bit with the files and I must say that the R6 is quite good. It all goes to personal preferences, speaking of color science
Canon absolutely shitty ibis. If you want some kind use in as videographer, you need buy ONLY lenses with stab. But even in RF L lenses (not all of them) did not have stab.
Even if you use lenses with stabilization, there’s still the problem of overheating, low bitrate, and the utterly ridiculous mechanism that shuts off the camera when you urgently need to swap the SD card. 😂
S5IIx is the easy choice.
dinamig range best in panasonic
everyone is raving about canon colors but i have an r8 and i find it rather underwhelming. and your canon footage looks greenish tinted
I can't take anything less than the R5 seriously. Canons R series of cameras are a joke video wise
Now you made me wanna try it
"Choosing a Camera is Choosing Your Life " - absolutely agree
Canon r8 please!!!!!!
👍
That's not even a question, until Canon stops treating its customers like garbage and allows third-party lenses. 😂😂 But anyway it's interesting to watch this video.
They recently started allowing third party for APS-C.
Hope it's just a matter of time for full frame lenses as well.
dont care...the aftersale service of canon rated no 1 and the colours are amazing,
Why do everybody need shitty third party lenses? You have 300 lenses for Canon made by Canon. Not enough?
@@НефедовГлебThird party lenses are not shitty, and RF glass is expensive
I hate canon's designs.