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Josh Barnett on submitting Dean Lister, why catch wrestlers are so sensitive & early UFC days
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
- For episode 2, we had to crack a bottle of whiskey with the War Master himself, Josh Barnett. We drove down to all the way to Los Angeles to meet with Josh & talk about the status of MMA, submitting Dean Lister, why Catch Wrestlers are so sensitive & much more.
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Chapters:
0:00 intro
3:00 Josh on training with Craig
4:42 Current state of grappling
12:41 Training with Kit Dale
14:14 Airbnb problems
15:19 Living in LA
18:44 MMA career
20:59 Crazy MMA characters
23:22 Growth of Martial Arts technique
28:06 Videotaping training
32:38 Why Catch Wrestlers are so sensitive
37:14 The merging of grappling arts
40:52 Best rule set for the sport
47:36 IBJJF podium fail at No Gi Worlds
48:48 The Josh Barnett rule
55:12 Josh Broke Craigs neck
55:36 Random Gi match Romulo
1:05:29 Josh has been to Australia
1:07:26 Craig can't cook
1:08:00 Bad Injuries in the sport
1:08:27 Submitting Dean Lister
1:14:47 Does Gordon Ryan hate HATE Craig?
1:19:33 Steroids in BJJ
1:22:00 Josh on Slap fighting
1:22:42 Craigs Million dollar idea
1:26:18 Josh on leg kicks
1:28:42 Liam leg injury
1:30:49 Savage BJJ youngsters
1:43:58 The naming of techniques
1:45:02 Origins of BJJ
1:50:36 War Bringer Whiskey
1:58:23 Outro
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that was over a week ago lmao
This is potentially the second best episode you guys have done to date. Great work- deserves a silver medal 🥈
Def in the top 5 episodes of all time so far.
Love guys like Josh Barnett still making bjj guys aware of the catch wrestling lineage
Also props Craig stickin to the Aussie roots rockin the TN’s
Sounds like CACC guys really are sensitive and egotistical maniacs
When you have 300 episodes from now, people will miss these foundational episodes where you are figuring out the tech.
The cast is worth listening to whether the mics work or not!
You’re 1000% right dude. I’ve watched multiple podcasts from their births and issues are looked upon fondly which is interesting
Nah. Sucks
@@FICTORIA sick bro!
Special thanks to our sound engineer Marlee Matlin
Bwahahahaha
Gordon seems like a banter vacuum brah
I'll never get over just how articulate Barnett is lol.
Josh Barnett is the fucking man. He's a staple of MMA and Grappling and was somehow a top HW for about twenty years. People sleep on him because his peak was before the modern casual, but that motherfucker is a monster.
I love both BJJ and Catch Wrestling, but these guys have a point. No-gi grappling has absorbed so much Catch Wrestling. The no gi game is a hybrid of BJJ and CaCC.
How do u call it catch wrestling if everyone just pulls guard
@@typfeufer if you go back to BJJ pre 1980, you’ll find that it has limited submissions including no leg locks. Also it was all done in the gi. Meanwhile, a Karl Gotch student named Satoru Sayama created a version of Catch Wrestling without pins for his Shooto system. This is the original “no gi grappling” and is where most of the modern leg lock game comes from, amongst other submissions. Over the many years you also had more and more wrestling being incorporated into no-gi grappling.
@theemperorcharlemagne leg locks were taught - pre 1980 - Jiu Jitsu in Brazil. Later it wouldn't be allowed in competition but leg locks have always been taught in Brazil.
@@fernandoortolani9709 some were taught in Brazil by guys with Catch backgrounds or by guys with styles that derive from Catch such as Luta Livre or Sambo.
It is largely recognized that most leg locks come from Japan, post the commencement of MMA. You can find a number of sources on that including John Danaher’s interview on the JRE. Erik Paulson is another great resource on the subject.
The Japanese leglock game comes from Catch Wrestling. Luta Livre is Brazilian Catch Wrestling. Sambo is Catch Wrestling plus Judo and they credit their leglock game to Catch as Catch Can.
@@theemperorcharlemagne leg locks were always taught at the Gracie Academy in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - way way way before 1980
Still haven't figured out the audio, I see.
they're athletes not sound engineers
@@mrawesome333doesnt give em a free pass
Ah goddamn it. I thought they would have for this one. Couldn't finish the first episode because of it.
I feel like they are not using the audio from the mics, and its just the audio from the cameras. Its insane!
On the road challenges, they’ve been corrected and expect 2nd best audio on pods to come!
Good choice of guests.
Barnett appeals to mma fans grappling fans. Just is a legend of grappling.
these mics are incredible
Yes incredibly bad.
I remember buying Josh’s DVDs punishing rides and attacking the guard. Made me give up the guard and just smash with knee on belly. KOB of life!! 😂
NEON BELLY!
Knee on Soul
Knee on Twig & Berries
I love it how you're holding mics only to use the camera audio. It's on brand.
One of my favorite grapplers… and Craig is their too…
Thank you for the content, keep it going y’all.
This is awesome guys love the podcast format of high level grapplers and fighters truthfully talking about things that matter to the people training wanting to be them! Good shit!
Craig: Today we have Josh Barnett with us….
Josh: I’m glad you asked…(proceeds to say all the words).
1:08:40 I remember this whole shoe debacle. Hahaha. It was funny AF.
First everyone in bjj calling him basically a moron for wearing shoes against Dean, and then same guys going full 180 degree after the match, and calling him practically a cheater. Hahaha. LoL. So which one is it?
That John Danaher voice clip at the beginning lmao
Barnett is such a cool dude man
Great episode. Flew by while I cleaned the house. I find myself laughing more at this type of “fucking around” humor than I do actual comedians.
The audio brings a certain level of charm to the podcast
Whoever put the time stamps in the description is a hero
BEST PODCAST EVER
When I saw the title,it was the fastest I've ever subbed.
Love this shit man!
Great conversation!
2nd episode was a challenge because in 1st one we got Uncle Chael but still loved it!
Keep em coming!
Loving this content 👏💪👌 Craig can you please elaborate on what it was like to roll with Chael and now with Josh? 🙏
Come on drink with Josh.Awesome podcast thanks, sounds is good with headphones, no complaints
I love Josh. Fantastic guest
This is the second best episode yet guys. In all seriousness I think Craig and the other guy do a great job, I think you should get Volk on next 👍🏼
I must say, and perhaps there is a reason for this, but Josh seems to come off much more polite and well spoken in this interview. In some of the interviews I have watched with him in the past, he seems to ramble on or interject randomly. Not sure if there was a specific reason for that, but props to Josh for being self aware and changing that around in this interview. Great to watch and a great guy all around.
b level audio....wouldn't have it any other way from the b team. you guys are second to none
Liked the vid already yet to watch it..... Josh is always a great watch.
Awesome to see JB on your podcast, Craig. Absolute legend of martial arts and you asked really great questions that gave way to some awesome stories that even Joe Rogan didn't get out of the mad lad. Also I am from Bundy so was good to hear the lad give us some props for making shit rum. If you drink bundy rum and don't get in a fight, you're a f#cking coward.
Also great to hear him talk about aussie MMA and people like Elvis who I trained under when I lived in Concord and is a great man.
1:00:00 This is known as "Brazilian war cry".
Basically, as a Brazilian competitor is losing, his whole squad suddenly starts yelling, crying and b*tching; threatening the organizers to never show up to their competitions again. Most competition organizers don't give a f*ck, but some of the poorly ran organizations give in to the b*tching pressure, and reverse their decisions.
It's quite sad to be honest. Grown men acting like little girls over a hurt ego.
Josh was very gentlemanly about this situation and incredibly gracious.
31:27
"everyone likes to gamble, some guys bet online and some guys send unsolicited d pics"
unrivalled sense of humour as usual Craig
Never Realized Josh Barnett was so charismatic, sick poddy
The Baby Faced Assassin!!!!!! Legend! Respect.
Craig, tell us about Travis Stevens
Gordon on this podcast would be legendary. I'm all for squashing the beef, but keeping the rivalry.
It would be like a between the two ferns episode
" if i had a 15 yo daughter showing me a picture of John Danaher and telling me she wants to move to Texas to train with this man, i'm going to have a serious conversation with her"....i laughed so hard at this. That being said Elena Crevar is a murderer on the mats.
one of my fav MMA fighters ever, awesome
Ran into Josh two days ago. Great guy
Craig I'm proud of you for upgrading from the hand held microphones 😂. All jokes aside I love your content and I'll definitely support the podcast. Keep it going.
But for real bro. Get a better setup.
Seriously love this podcast ✌️
what Josh Barnett says about not selecting the strengths of your opponent as a grounds of the fight is exactly what made GSP such a great fighter. great minds think alike. GSP was constantly switching between I will kick you in the face and I will double leg you and later I will threaten you with submissions.
What's more annoying than the sound is people complaining about the sound.
2:00:23 He's right. Besides, the price is nothing as we get a chance to learn from all of the best guys in the world. There has never been a time like this before.
My favorite pod currently.
Josh is one of the sharpest, most well rounded to ever compete in mma!
Oh man Josh was great in Stranger Things really good seeing fighters find a career outside of sports.
What you talking about little boy
This is the golden age episodes. This will be those episodes you'll see people rewatch for nostalgia
This happened with the predecessor to Catch Wrestling which came from India...people forget unless it's "branded."
The second Best B-team podcast is back!
CACC, sensitivity training
craig is doing so much for the game he will honestly be well appreciated as time goes by
Josh a class act
Awesome interview
Do you guys have like a boom mic sitting in the middle of the room and you're accidently using that instead of the handheld ones?
Pretty sure they messed up the handheld so reverted back to using the shitty in camera mic.
Great episode
Let's goooo. I don't even train bjj yet but im here for this lol
Craig lookin more and more like the crack is taking hold
I love 80’s $15 RadioShack microphones. Super phat!
Josh is a very interesting guy to listen to. I'd love to learn from him and also shoot the shut
They got that BTeam audio guy too.
Right from the opening seconds when Dean Lister pulled guard it was over for him.
Sakuraba snd Barnett have proven time and again that if you pull guard against a very good catch wrestler you’re going to lose.
There’s a reason why all wrestling styles always seek to get a top dominant position…
Because it’s superior to ANY bottom position.
this one was great
catch wrestler Barnett is the King
Tns still looking fresh
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I feel you. Australian english is hard to understand.
Hope the mic issues are fixed for the third episode. Waiting until fix happens. Need more Craig in my life.
Well the audio improved, can’t wait till shots of Simone helps them with their asmr edition of the el segundp podcast
Good stuff!
Get Neil Melanson on here.
Lol a Brazilian black belt told me that shit don't use kesa or kata gatami b/c I can take your back. I then proceeded to crush all of his student with it. It's a viable position and I use it to demoralize my opponent.
I crush black belts with it who tell me not to use it. Coz those are the ones who understand it the least.
Same. I slaughter bjj guys including purple and brown with it. I’ve been doing judo 2 years and bjj 3 months. I’ve never had my back taken from kesa or even close. If I start to feel my opponent escape that direction (has happened only twice) I’ll just switch to regular side control or north south. I usually finish when I get kesa, it’s actually so easy for me that I now often let them escape just to keep the roll going.
It’s funny to see/feel the body language as opponents go from “heh what is this noob doing” and attempting escapes to “shit what do I do” and resort to survival trying not to get armlocked
Cannot understand why bjj guys don’t use it more
Would love to see a submission-grappling promotion were points are for take-downs / escapes only. Basically point system designed to encourage stand-up battles. Either stand-up dominance or submissions to win.
Wtf is interesting in two guys pushing each other around? I wanna see tech to submission. Glad we are still in majority
Great content.
Are you guys planning to do an interview with Kit Dale? that would be hilarious
Around 24:00 Josh talks how in early days people were trading techniques and Pat Miletich learned crucifix from catch wrestling guys. It's super cool, because Pat temporarily unretired himself and fought Mike Jackson recently, he utilised crucifix for a big part of the fight
Jesus Christ the mics are just fucking props at this point
Very enjoyable
You’d guys have twice as many listeners if you just fixed the audio. Get some usb condenser mics, they plug right into the computer or mixer
Andre Galvao also dominated Xande Ribeiro with the double under back control.
Bruh 1 hour 45 into the podcast things FINALLY get interesting and Josh is talking about the origin of sport jui jitsu and how catch wrestling gave martial artists from all background a chance to show off their own specialized skill and it gets interrupted 5 minutes in to talk about War Bringer Whiskey cmon man
They need to supplement that chair's sagging frame with a couple of hardback books- Renato Laranja Show style
The microphone sounds like it’s coming from the camera not the mics.
41:40 "...let's make it accurate...Craig is losing..." 😅
Love this. Please have Gordon on! Then have Lex.
Can you please make your podcast recordings at a higher volume?
"I'll call Gabby" @1:35:07 💪🥳
Mic check ✅✅✅
I might be crazy but I think you could get away with a regular title
Maybe like
El Segundo Ep. 2 : Josh Barnett ?
Let’s goooo!
Its the second episode. Give the sound guy some slack. This is Bteam.
Please have Josh on often!!! Love it 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
you know about the leopard thong? " your a real animal ill give you that" haha
Will this podcast be on Spotify?
Yes! Spotify, Apple, and all other podcast platforms! Download and enjoy
@@BTeamJiuJitsu alrighty just gave it a watch on RUclips I'll make sure to give it a listen on Spotify tomorrow during work you'll stay killing it...
That Gabby Garcia clip LOL
When are you switching on the microphones?
If @craigjones actually gets Gordon as a guest. That would be epic.
Never happen. He can’t handle the banter though. 😂
Turn up the gain on the mics. If you’re in LA again, id love to handle your audio needs.