The Cancelled Classic Dungeon
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
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The original version of World of Warcraft includes 19 dungeons, which is the most for any version of the game. What a lot of players do not know is that more were planned to be added following the games release. In this video we will take a closer look at two of them: what we eventually got, and what we never got to see!
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It's a shame hayven passed away from cancer, it was heartbreaking when I found out...
Hayvenn still should have showed up as an NPC in bastion. a heroes light never dies.
Ikr? Insulting they didn't honor our fellow palidan
I mean I'd hope for something in a better place.
Sigh.. Hayven.. rip man. Thank you for linking his video.
Awesome video as usual.
RIP
Hayven will stay missed. rip
The fact he is still talked about and linked to really shows how important he was/still is to the community. He really was something else
RIP Hayven, thank you for sharing his video.
This was always one of my favorites, like the Black Morass always felt much older than Burning Crusade to me, and finding out a version of it was in the files since Vanilla just made sense.
Amazing video as always! I know no one can replace Hayven but man, you are the only other channel who makes videos that dive as deep and have as amazing footage as Hayven!
Agreed, feels homely to be on this channel
Tbh this channel is everything I wanted from a wow channel when I was younger and I'm so glad I found it.
I remember watching "top 10 cut content from wow" types of videos or Hayven Games and thought it would be nice if there were videos that go into more detail.
Thanks for making a channel which is literally that
Thanks a lot! Im happy to see people like this part of the games history as much as i do
I heard somewhere that Jaedenar (whatever that complex is in Felwood is called) was supposed to be a dungeon, hence why the cave system is so needlessly big.
There's an old picture of a ton of ideas Blizzard had back in 2001 about what endgame content was supposed to look like. I think Jaedenar is one of the dungeons, but there's a ton of others.
There is a Furbolg raid that was supposed to be in vanilla near felwood and mount hyjal. That's what this was.
@@Vixxie_Aerogosa The barrowden entrance is in Azshara.
either way its not needlesly big. just how it should be
turtle wow, the private server, put back the caverns of time dungeon
if you have a Wotlk Database, you can go into the database table "instances" and add a row yes add a row and enter the instance ID. You'll have to research the instance ID because i don't remember this exact id off the top of my head. this dungeon was left out of the database tables and is almost lost to time. very few people even know that this dungeon existed. it is all of the scarlet monastery instances into 1 super dungeon. Inside of almost every instance if you go out of bounds it is basically the outside zone, or nothingness. deadmines has "old deadmines" and the Strand of the ancients BG out of bounds has an entire city underwater with a waterfall :P great video! super fun topic!!!
They're going to use that dungeon for the scarlet raid.
@@michaelmoran2125 they’re sayings it’s sunken temple 😭
What do you mean add a row?
Insert a table, so if there is say 99 instance ID's ascending from 1-99 add a new row into the instance database and make its ID of the correct ID, it was removed out of the database and forgotten, so if you can find that old instance ID and add that instance into the database it will now be accessible which it was not before, some type of developer instance, all of its information is stored in the DBC, so the files are already in the patches, just need to add the instance ID to the DB@@TimFrischIsHere
There will be no scarlet raid, since it got released as a dungeon
Wow. Hayven Games. I remember chatting a little with him before. Nice guy.
Still miss 'em.
Also I still use the Eagle Eye chain macro to look around more places you cant normally get into. (one example is the Emerald Dream of dragonflight in which you can see one of the biggest areas Blizzard copied, namely the whole island) and added Dream elements to it.)
But if you tried to fly in there to the areas, you'll get "ported" away via a dream spell.
Super cool! Did not know about this expanded version of the dungeon! :o
Nice to see ya here!
Great video and big love from Finland! Keep them coming my dude! =)
Thank you! There will be more :)
Fantastic video dude! Love seeing small creators randomly blow up on the algorithm, especially something as niche as wow archival stuff.
Honestly a great video, thank you for making it :)
Thanks for covering the instance I suggested! 🥰
RIP Hayven.
RIP HAYVEN GAMES.
Also, tbh, is not fair to call these cancelled... more like, posposed. They got releazed in the end, just with some tweaks of course.
I can imagine the devs were not happy with the initial idea for those 2 dungeons. To be fair, all of them can be a bit... is hard to put into words... but maybe they arent the favorite of everyone...
Black Moras, just like Hyjal Summit raid, suffer from the wave-attacks design. I don't think anoyne realy favors those 2.
Old Hilldsbrad is a gigantic escort quest... but the old South Shore is amazing to visit for the lore and to see such amazing characters such as Alexandros Mograine and Kel'Thuzad.
Culling of Stratholme style is also a bit boring, with the initial round of groups spawning around the city. But the 2nd part is great imo.
The Cata ones seem to have been much better designed. I personaly fucking love Well of Eternity!
I personally found the little story development of Bartolo Ginsetti (the cloak salesman) to be a nice touch
Im not really a fan of how either of the Dungeons play out, but their scenery is amazing
@@TurbotarzanWoW I personaly would like to see more Caverns of Time dungeons, just done in the style of the Cata ones.
Maybe we could have some going over some of the key events of Wc2 and 3.
Maybe one of the Scourge Invasion of Quel'Thalas, ending with the rise of the Kel'Thuzad the Lich! Or maybe one were we witness Broxiggar going through the portal and wounding Sargeras!
Super, Super cool video. This is the kind of stuff I'd love too see in SoD.
First time watch you. This was a cool video bro. I’ll definitely be checking out more.
Man, I miss Hayven Games
originally you could just die in front of the caverns of time and then your ghost could walk through the door and res on the other side
Imagine if they added caverns of time as a SM-style dungeon hub in SOD or Classic+ when it releases!
So doing what they did in tbc.. nah I want to see more creative ideas
Heyy, i must admit, that This is a very interessting Video 🙈 thanks for that🥰 keep it up
Thanks a lot! there will be more :)
@@TurbotarzanWoWit the perfect Video to watch while eating your meal :D
Don't forget the crypts under Karazhan and the portal (likely intended to be to Hyjal) in Winterspring (Darkwhisper Gorge).
Not likely. It WAS intended to be hyjal. The other side of that portal is where the under construction sugb seen in trailers was as well as archumindes Skeleton from wc
The Azshara portal, Grim Batol, Uldum...
@@kyleellis1825 There was also portals to the Emerald Dream in Feralas and Duskwood too...
@@InternetGravedigger and the blasted lands portal originally being more of a single max level zone with a raid.
We need this dungeon in SoD! Make it into raid, that would be epic
I never knew chromie was such a long-standing fixture in the game
Awesome video
I remember trying to get to 60 in Western Plaguelands back in later Vanilla only to find a female gnome in one of the houses. I was like... "you're a dragon? Psht, no you're not." And left her quest untouched, haha. I hadn't caught onto the Katrina Prestor reveal then. I just heard her Stormwind /yell now and again and wondered what it was.
Verry good video keep it up😊😊😊
So the structure that you can see in Karazhan (Prince Malchezaar Room) is actually that of Black Morass?
Wondered the same thing, but its not quite the same (just checked again)
Back in vanilla, I got into the caverns of time by just dying in front of the entrance and walking through it as a ghost.
It still infuriates me that Blizzard refuses to add an NPC for Hayven even after 2 completed petitions...
9 minute video for 1 minute of the cancelled dungeon 😂
Have you ever made a video about the additional rooms in BWL?
Holy shit, what?? There were extra rooms? Please cover this! I'm curious now.
I remember there was a petition for Hayven to become immortalized in the game. I still resent blizzard for ignoring it. Hayven should become an NPC inside Light's Hope Chappel. R.I.P. Hayven , we miss you.
Great video mate
havent watched the video yet but i will bet youre talking about either black temple. karazhan or hyjal
In turtle wow a classic+ private Server the devs made this a playable dungeon. 😊 not one of my favorite but nice to explore
Never realized Chromie was that old (in game time). I started a week before BC dropped and didn't really get caught up until the tail-end of WotLK, so I never met her in all that time.
Best game ever made. Nothing came close ever since.
So this is where the Black morass dungeon on turtle wow comes from, i thought it was full custom content!
yaay a new video
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Isn't this de-bunked by the fact that Garrosh went back in time and it had no effect on our present because when you go back in time in the game it's an alternate universe you go to?
This dungeon and it's lore was made waaaaaay before that happened. The tidbit there is just to remind people why that dungeon happened lorewise back then.
Would've much preferred actual reimagined cancelled content for classic than Slop of Discovery. Tons of spells in game exist on NPCs that would be perfect additions to the class archetypes. So much lost potential.
You could easily bypass the rock in front of Caverns of Time in vanilla, if you died in front of the stone, you could walk through it as a ghost and resurrect on the inside.
It should be noted that dragons being able to disguise themselves as humans had been a thing in canon since WC2.
Patch 1.2 and 1.3 were years apart, don't forget that.
What do you mean?
1.2 released on November 7, 2004
1.3 released on March 7, 2005
so four months apart
months not years, my bad@@Jokar93
@@doodmonkeyI just thought you were making a joke about 2004 vs 2005 lol
1:57 4 dragons, after you kill 3, here is another quest.
Know what the raid portal at the end of Strath is?
It was supposed to be the alternate (non attunement requiring) entrance to Naxxramas, similar to the Blackwing Lair entrance in Blackrock Spire, or the Molten Core entrance in Blackrock Depths. Its likely that when Blizzard realised that pretty much everybody opted for the attunements over the dungeon entrances, they decided not to open the dungeon entrance which would have been located at the end of the Stratholme dungeon
So did everybody forget about the unused portal in SW?
Talking about the one with the closed gate?
That was supposed to be for player housing back in vanilla, but that became cut content. They kinda were lazy in removing that portal.
feels very odd to have played with someone called TurboTarzan but that was during Classic.
And now watch a vid made by a TurboTarzan. . .
Hmm which realm was this?
@@TurbotarzanWoW Sadly I don't remember because I transferd after a while to the RPpvp server during classic.
Which might be that one, I recall doing Naxx with a Tarzan.
rip hayven. best wow youtuber imo, well at least at the time.
What I never understood is why there was such a wonderfully developed storyline surrounding every Caverns of Time instance....except Hyjal, which had NONE.
"We just thought players would think it was cool."
Stupid.
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Your sound (voice) is so soft, I gave up after a bit of having my phone at full crank. You need some compression on your voice my guy.