I've played WoW on and off since Vanilla and as someone who has only recently became interested in the stories of this world, I really appreciate these videos.
i don't think it sums up Shadowlands, BfA's plot was - recruit new armies -> war between factions -> Queen Azshara has returned! -> screw you, N'Zoth is here, while Shadowlands was pretty much "stop the Jailer even though he is several steps ahead of you!" the entire expansion
I think WoW needs to focus on telling one story well in each expansion, rather than falling into the trap of just creating more setup for story in the next expansion and so on. Tell a complete story and give a teaser for what comes next in the epilogue.
@@Menolith what are you talking about? Virtually every expansion is a confusing mess story-wise. If they just tackled a major plot well, they’d do better. And maybe they could not do endless retcons
@@adams303 If each expansion has been a confusing mess story-wise, then I think that's indicative that Blizzard really should re-think their approach and, say, try to focus on a clearer long-term narrative which would prevent those retcons you brought up. Of course they should just "tackle a major plot well" but that doesn't mean they also can't have more long-term narratives. It just boils down to saying that they should "Just write it better" which isn't insightful criticism because a magic 8-ball could give them that.
@@Menolith the point I’m trying to make is that they make too many side stories that often go nowhere or only get recalled years later. So a narrower narrative focus may help to prevent that occurring.
It takes quite an impressive effort to make an entire expansion about dragons feel that dull and forgettable. I hope they change a lot about how they design and tell the story in the war within.
Bell has a lot of xpac overview vids, in which he talks also about the story of the expansions (from a lore perspective, but alsp from gameplay and development perspectives). From tbc to mop at least, probably the later xpacs too
WoW feels like Dragon Ball where you start out battling a bandit in the desert for low stakes, and then later you're fighting with gods and battling in a tournament where the stakes are the existence of the universe.
It was a good plot in theory, executed rather poorly. I want to enjoy it because the story beats do work if you understand the context, but the writing is so Disney-esque the vibe is just all off.
Second time this month I thought "man, I wish Bellular did a video about this and this" and you guys deliver THE NEXT DAY. I would thank your entire team for the amazing work in all of your channels but now I'm starting to think I'm being watched.
Thank you, I haven't really played since BFA (although I did at least finish the Shadowlands campaigns), and really didn't want to have to rush through all of DF before the next xpac drops. This was a really great catchup summary, and now I can just focus on levelling and gearing up my characters instead :)
The lore and history of the dracthyr and them finding their own path along with Ebonhorn becoming the black dragon aspect was definitely the best part of this expansion
Returning player from the Wotlk days and just finished the DF MSQ, its funny reading all the negative comments. Compared to the old days of Wow and also other games on the market today I thought the world building and story telling was pretty damn good. Not perfect. But definitely compelling, interesting, and emotional at times. As a returning player it was a lot better than I expected. And i feel like its been incredible value for money with how much content there is.
Thank you! As a recently returned player I haven't completed(read: barely started) DF yet. I've been more focused on getting all my alts up to 60 so they can take advantage of warbands and the prepatch event to quickly get from 60-70. My only 70 is due to the boost that came with the new xpac pre-order so I'm woefully lost in DFs story and events atm.
DF’s story may have been lacking, but it’s still a solid A-tier expansion. Not every expansion needs a Thanos/Avengers level threat. DF villains were like B-Level MCU villains.
i will give Blizzard props where its due. having Azeroth give them their powers back is both smart and makes sense. Azeroth is a titan, even if she is unborn. she would be the one to be able to give the dragons their titan powers back.
After I read all the dragon flight related novels from the beginning of the novels, then Dragonflight made sense. Not sure how they could do that in game for people who haven't read the books. The game and characters were very meaningful *after* I read the books. And thank you so much! This video was very helpful!
pitty me (and quite the bunch of others for sure...) who haven't read those books and thus are either mostly clueless as to where "the point" was in all that or watch videos like this about the lore despites having played it through... 🫤
@minecraftys I think the major lore in books issue is one of the major downfalls of modern wow. Forcing the story into non game media is a bad move in my opinion.
@@sophialafae7160you don't have to, it makes it easier. vanilla wow had a bunch of lore... in in game books and quest logs. in both cases though, what players need is taking the time to read instead of blasting through quests to get to max level faster
The overarching theme of this expansion was Rebirth; we see this throughout the zones and with the aspects themselves needing to take steps to both step up to the roll and to deal with their past.
If by roll you actually meant role..... the problem is, none of the aspects ever successfully stepped up to their role in Dragonflight. They all seemed to fail at it and give up.... instead going for some abstract mysterious "family" thing that was never their role.
I don't know if people would want a new game, or if it even is a remote option, but it'd be cool if after the players get Azeroth to wake up safely they'd just make a new, better game, from that idea. It's great what they're trying to do with the improvements to the game in the last few years, the new races and stuff, but it's just a ancient game, they should direct efforts to a new one, with a new code base, that could be even better improved in the future. Specially because the MMORpg genre is gonna get a bunch of new competition in the next few years and, even if WoW managed to keep itself relevant throughout all these years, it's barely hanging on and everyone can see that... Imagine what they could do with this game if it was a bit more up to date with other games, I think it'd amazing honestly.
Uh… what does he mean awaken Tyr in the future? The dude is awake now. He’s sitting that chamber opposite the tier set forge. That human what’s-his-name telling him everything that’s happened since he did the memory backup thing. It was kind of a disappointment. Though admittedly not as bad as Ra being sad and pathetic
@@wight4991 I know, not saying it didn’t make sense. Makes sense for Tyr to be like, woah wtf bro!? Lol I guess I, with everything we know about Tyr, I was expecting him to come out of the corner swinging. I’m assuming he will have a greater role to play in the future, unless the writers forget about him…
@@rkramer5629 The model they gave him, the Tyr's Guard (and a player title of it), and having a whole chain quest to awaken him... yea I'm sure they won't forget this one, don't worry
The point is that Tyr woke up, because the Aspects thought they needed him. But they didn't. They grew past needing him. However, being that Tyr was already one of the Watchers that butted heads with the Titan's plan, it didn't take much convincing for him to not be upset that the Aspects regained their power from a different source, not the Titans. I fully expect Tyr to be our ally against Odyn and the Titan loyalists in The Last Titan. We are going to see a full scale reveal about just how shifty the Titans really are and Tyr will have our backs.
The whole 'alternate' timeline thing is so damn confusing, I want simplicity, not writers coming up with lackluster stories with one-dimensional themes
Dragonflight did have some really nice and sweet moments. I loved how Tyrande finally saw Malfurion again and literally ran towards him for a kiss. I honestly can’t remember there was ever a moment in all of warcraft and wow like that.
Thank you for this video, I did the MSQ and but basically forgot everything about the story. I didn´t really care about any of the characters especially since I knew they´re gonna be forgotten as soon as the next expansion rolls around
Am I crazy or did you just straight up not mention how Tyr actually did come back fully but just has decided to wait around for a bit before deciding what to do? And also did you not mention how the Dragon Aspects were reimpowered by Azeroth herself and that Ebyssian and Merithra are Aspects now.
There isn't any evidence that Azeroth empowered anybody inside the emerald dream at the end of the Amirdrassil raid. The most likely description using Occam's Razor as a principle is to surmise that cosmic team Life empowered the dragons and that is why they are mind controlled with family and not fulfilling their role for the defense of the planet.
I also thought it was pretty clear the oathstones didnt work because tyr was gone. He poured a part of his power into making them aspects. They are now no longer tyrs dragon aspects, they are azeroths. Also he didn't clarify that azeroth is a titan as well.
@@Ultramarine4th Correction, the dragon aspects are now enslaved to cosmic team Life... azeroth did not do it; and does not exist in the emerald dream, the seed for amirdrassil was made by Elune and empowered with cosmic team Life magic.
I kinda liked the black dragonflight we had forgotten about like Sabellian and Ebyssian being brought back and getting development, I like seeing old characters become more important and the dracthyr and primals are a welcome addition to the dragon lore, after the Shadowlands we needed a more down to earth and casual expansion
I think DF's story was meh, but I can appreciate that it does it's own thing instead of pissing all over old lore like SL and (to a lesser extent) BFA did.
So some corrections for you. Emberthal was part of the Adamant Vigil, not Argent Vigil. And the Healing Wings were not disbanded. In fact, some of the blue dragonkin that you rescue during Dracthyr starting area join the weyrn.
I'm pretty sure The Tear of Elune goes all the way back to Legion. It shows up again in Shadow Lands but it was part of the whole thing where you have to kill Ysara.
The Cycle will complete Before the expansion: THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT! Mid Expansion: This is kind of not what I expected but let's see if it will get better. Pre Announcement of next Expansion: The Story is Lame and the Systems suck! Announcement of next Expansion: THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT!
I know Dragonflight as a whole wasn't overly exciting but it really did mostly what we/it needed it to be, especially after SL. Iridikron is baller though!
It was worse than Shadowlands Shadowlands at least had something going for it, some teeth Dragonflight felt completely castrated, it was on the level of the recent Disney tv shows
@@Shiirow like shadowlands did whenever people were saying THE EXACT SAME SENTENCE about BfA? Yeah wow players don't learn, and let me say this, Rats have a better learning curve whenever they are getting zapped multiple times.
I used to play wow, joined at WoTlk and sort of stopped after Legion (i enjoyed legion) ive lost my account and plan to start again, fresh. Obviously im a few expansions behind, what order would you recommend content? Or just start with War Within straight away? I was thinking. BFA, DragonFlight then War Within.
Were not gunna talk about the fact that they fired the story guy Steve halfway through the expansion? I guarantee that was why we saw this shift in the story suddenly setting up the war within saga. and the war within saga itself seemingly coming out of nowhere once Chris came back. Why would they fire steve halfway through if it was going so well? They wouldnt. He was going to flop on his face and give us another "What is to come" ending and they canned his ass.
I was curious if you guys were going to do videos of what Tank class is best what DPS class is best and what Healer Class is best like you have in the past for The War Within????
Maybe the mother stone didn't work because it knew they were no longer blindly following the titans plan so it didn't give them the power from titans. Interesting its almost as if they will be on our side vs the titans in the future.
And the thing is..... the ones claiming that the world was wrong..... were villains. Literal villains, doing literal ethically bad things to every living thing around them, and who hated the azeroth world soul and hated mortals and hated any non-dragon life and hated any dragon outside their own genetics. Listening to villain incarnate dragons complaining about the titans is like watching an episode of Cops on tv where a drug-dealing murderer accuses the police of being terrible because they didn't let the criminal get his cigarettes and his hat before they put him in the back of the squad-car on the way to prison. I have zero sympathy for either of those criminal villains.
Me before I watched this video: "I wonder what is happening in World of Warcraft before this new expansion" Me after this video: "I don't care what's happening in the world of warcraft"
We don't have any evidence that Azeroth empowered anybody. Since the origin of that empowerment came from inside the emerald dream.... it is very possible that cosmic team Life did the empowering.
Weird Comparison, but i feel like Dragonflight Expansion is pretty much like Skypea Arc from One Piece. It feels like a side adventure where it has little to nothing to do with the main story. then suddenly. BOOM! everything makes sence, And EVERYTHING has something to do with the main story.
Dragonflight had to kind of fix or try and build apon th3 problems of the previous expansion and i would say it did pretty well, it wasnt amazing story telling mind u but it did good and def set up for the next expansion and later on
Sigh it was just easier when you were not the storyline, and were just in the world. I think Blizzard forget they are making a game and not a Fantasy Movie. I would rather see great gameplay then extremely confusing story.
if you've been here for the last 14 years this should be the end lore wise we've come full circle to deal with the void itself that's what it is .that's the story the rest is season after season like all other games.
so what happens if we arent successful in an expansion? wonder if we cant win in war within? then what? i want that to be a possibility. the stakes should be high.
Thanks for the videos, very informative however I do miss things in WoW. I miss heroic sweaty characters, I miss the time heroes did not speak about their feelings and I miss not being the savior of the planet. What worries me is that they are not creating any new heroes in the lore, no characters like Ilidan, Garrosh, Varyan or Voljin. Alleria seems cool, but she has been around since WC3. I fear once they run out of WC3 heroes they will run out of lore potential.
The problem isn't that they aren't making new heroes, because they obviously are. Anduin is a great example, Moira, Emberthal, Khadgar, Lorthemar, and the new order of the silver hand led by Travard are all good examples of them making new heroes. The problem is that everyone new they introduce a not insignificant portion of the fan base instantly rejects and demands the heroes of old, before immediately claiming they're failing to make new heroes. Nostalgia is a powerful drug.
I liked Dragonflight's story fine. Though the Oathstones turned out pointless, and the dialogue is a bit cringe in some parts, I did enjoy the experience way more than I did most of BfA and Shadowlands. Certainly a breath of fresh air.
WoW's climax was Northrend and the Lich King. After killing him, everything else just felt anticlimactic, especially when most of my friends left WoW. "Deathwing"? OOOOOOH... whatever. I was pretty bummed about Cataclysm (despite Vash'jir being such an awesome zone), and although Jade Forest brought back the fun, it's just never been the same. But I'm OK with that. I play in moderation now, without the obsession to constantly upgrade all my toons, and it's still fun. I pay my subscription every three months because each month of WoW is cheaper than a night at the pub, and offers more fun per month. I expect I'll keep playing until they shut down the last server.
Summarized this way the story it’s kinda okay but damn did it feel way worse experiencing it in game. Goes to show how much in game decisions (renown lock, pacing between patches or stories, accesibility, etc) impact the game story
From what I'm guessing, from somethat hasn't played since Shadowlands, this makes it seem like much of the story seems to be tied to the raids? So that means nothing really interesting happens in the leveling, and doing the story myself will be annoying. Got it.
A lot of the story is ALWAYS in the raids. Always has been. That being said, the leveling story is the best we've had in years. Right up there with the Alliance side of BFA leveling story or Legion's. If you don't read or listen to the story it's easy to call it bad, but also silly and lazy
I am the only one who liked the expansion? It was a dragon civil war mostly, why need to be more? It was pretty simple and fun, and ok from a lore point of view, not everything need to be a WORLD ENDING event. It was kinda like mist of pandaria!
Making a good story in WoW would require Blizzard to put time and effort into it rather than making what they really want: Raids. Yes, you CAN do both, but that's money Blizzard doesn't want to spend. And would it kill them to just have expansions be self contained for once? Not every damn expansion needs to lead into the next big bad.
This might be an unpopular opinion but here it comes: Dragonflight had the worst story of any wow expansion, worse than shadowlands in my opinion I didn’t hate shadowlands, it was just bad, but it had an overall wow vibe Dragonflight is just hot garbage, castrated and souless, not a single spark of the wow vibe was left in it
Ngl, I think when I was dragged aside to do all this weird sands of time stuff, it really stretched my interest and attention thin. I just completely lost interest at that point because it took me away from a storyline i was kind of enjoying and just seemingly tried opening up this nebulous marvel multiverse and i just couldn't be arsed anymore. Now im back and i have no idea whats going on. Honestly, I'd love it if Wow stuck to the Darkshore/Ashenale Horde vs Alliance vibe.
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I've played WoW on and off since Vanilla and as someone who has only recently became interested in the stories of this world, I really appreciate these videos.
If you’re like me you got from the beginning to end of an expac with absolutely no idea what was going on with the story lol
@@benkelly7182 played through so many like that, cause I was mainly a pvper. Just now getting into raid and story
"Its plot was oddly paced, it was pretty messy and generally it wasn't that gripping" brother i feel like that also summs up BFA and Shadowlands
Shadowlands was _entirely_ disconnected from Azeroth, and Zovaal was the most boring edgelord.
Ardenweald has some of the best aesthetic design blizzard has pulled off tho.
i don't think it sums up Shadowlands, BfA's plot was - recruit new armies -> war between factions -> Queen Azshara has returned! -> screw you, N'Zoth is here, while Shadowlands was pretty much "stop the Jailer even though he is several steps ahead of you!" the entire expansion
Dragonflight was way worse than Bfa and Shadowlands combined
You can add the W.W. to that lame list of crappy expansions.
I think WoW needs to focus on telling one story well in each expansion, rather than falling into the trap of just creating more setup for story in the next expansion and so on. Tell a complete story and give a teaser for what comes next in the epilogue.
They tried that in shadowlands lol
Dunno, they've been doing that for the past two decades or so. I really can't fault them for trying something different.
@@Menolith what are you talking about? Virtually every expansion is a confusing mess story-wise. If they just tackled a major plot well, they’d do better. And maybe they could not do endless retcons
@@adams303 If each expansion has been a confusing mess story-wise, then I think that's indicative that Blizzard really should re-think their approach and, say, try to focus on a clearer long-term narrative which would prevent those retcons you brought up.
Of course they should just "tackle a major plot well" but that doesn't mean they also can't have more long-term narratives. It just boils down to saying that they should "Just write it better" which isn't insightful criticism because a magic 8-ball could give them that.
@@Menolith the point I’m trying to make is that they make too many side stories that often go nowhere or only get recalled years later. So a narrower narrative focus may help to prevent that occurring.
It takes quite an impressive effort to make an entire expansion about dragons feel that dull and forgettable. I hope they change a lot about how they design and tell the story in the war within.
Blizzard needs to understand that we judge and appreciate an expansion's story based on what it is, not on how well it sets up the next expansion.
Cosmic void is quite a few orders of magnitude spookier than fleshy tentacle void.
Pls do one for every expansion.
This, please. Bell may have some already but not sure
Nobell has a breakdown for each one I think
@@nolabets3130 yea don't like his video much
Bell has a lot of xpac overview vids, in which he talks also about the story of the expansions (from a lore perspective, but alsp from gameplay and development perspectives). From tbc to mop at least, probably the later xpacs too
Your profile pic is wild. Testing the waters with RUclips?
WoW feels like Dragon Ball where you start out battling a bandit in the desert for low stakes, and then later you're fighting with gods and battling in a tournament where the stakes are the existence of the universe.
Fell off towards the start of Dragonflight but this video has gotten me caught up (with essentials) and keen. Great vid Bellular!
Good video, I missed the majority of Df so it’s appreciated
Phenomenal synopsis my friend, thanks for sharing!
Dragonflights story was okay. Not the best not the worst. Just okay.
It was a good plot in theory, executed rather poorly.
I want to enjoy it because the story beats do work if you understand the context, but the writing is so Disney-esque the vibe is just all off.
it was like if cataclysm was in pandaria
From 05 till now it's always been mid lol.
The 'golden age' was just when players had hairlines and wives still 😂
It was an excuse to make dragons do stuff. Which is good.
I liked it. It was better than wod in my opinion
Second time this month I thought "man, I wish Bellular did a video about this and this" and you guys deliver THE NEXT DAY. I would thank your entire team for the amazing work in all of your channels but now I'm starting to think I'm being watched.
I’ve played DF, I’ve watched this video and I still have NFI what’s going on. I miss the straightforward stories of vanilla, TBC etc
Thank you, I haven't really played since BFA (although I did at least finish the Shadowlands campaigns), and really didn't want to have to rush through all of DF before the next xpac drops. This was a really great catchup summary, and now I can just focus on levelling and gearing up my characters instead :)
The lore and history of the dracthyr and them finding their own path along with Ebonhorn becoming the black dragon aspect was definitely the best part of this expansion
Returning player from the Wotlk days and just finished the DF MSQ, its funny reading all the negative comments. Compared to the old days of Wow and also other games on the market today I thought the world building and story telling was pretty damn good. Not perfect. But definitely compelling, interesting, and emotional at times. As a returning player it was a lot better than I expected. And i feel like its been incredible value for money with how much content there is.
I agree with you
Thank you! As a recently returned player I haven't completed(read: barely started) DF yet. I've been more focused on getting all my alts up to 60 so they can take advantage of warbands and the prepatch event to quickly get from 60-70. My only 70 is due to the boost that came with the new xpac pre-order so I'm woefully lost in DFs story and events atm.
DF’s story may have been lacking, but it’s still a solid A-tier expansion. Not every expansion needs a Thanos/Avengers level threat. DF villains were like B-Level MCU villains.
i will give Blizzard props where its due. having Azeroth give them their powers back is both smart and makes sense. Azeroth is a titan, even if she is unborn. she would be the one to be able to give the dragons their titan powers back.
After I read all the dragon flight related novels from the beginning of the novels, then Dragonflight made sense. Not sure how they could do that in game for people who haven't read the books. The game and characters were very meaningful *after* I read the books. And thank you so much! This video was very helpful!
pitty me (and quite the bunch of others for sure...) who haven't read those books and thus are either mostly clueless as to where "the point" was in all that or watch videos like this about the lore despites having played it through... 🫤
@minecraftys I think the major lore in books issue is one of the major downfalls of modern wow. Forcing the story into non game media is a bad move in my opinion.
Your comment is what is wrong with wow now. You have to read a book to get the game story. That is ridiculous
@@sophialafae7160you don't have to, it makes it easier. vanilla wow had a bunch of lore... in in game books and quest logs. in both cases though, what players need is taking the time to read instead of blasting through quests to get to max level faster
Imagine the guy pitching this story in the board room lol. If i was there I'd be like ok maybe just simplify and stick to a couple main pillars
The overarching theme of this expansion was Rebirth; we see this throughout the zones and with the aspects themselves needing to take steps to both step up to the roll and to deal with their past.
If by roll you actually meant role..... the problem is, none of the aspects ever successfully stepped up to their role in Dragonflight. They all seemed to fail at it and give up.... instead going for some abstract mysterious "family" thing that was never their role.
More like afterbirth lol
I don't know if people would want a new game, or if it even is a remote option, but it'd be cool if after the players get Azeroth to wake up safely they'd just make a new, better game, from that idea. It's great what they're trying to do with the improvements to the game in the last few years, the new races and stuff, but it's just a ancient game, they should direct efforts to a new one, with a new code base, that could be even better improved in the future. Specially because the MMORpg genre is gonna get a bunch of new competition in the next few years and, even if WoW managed to keep itself relevant throughout all these years, it's barely hanging on and everyone can see that...
Imagine what they could do with this game if it was a bit more up to date with other games, I think it'd amazing honestly.
I didn't mind dragonflight, definitely ready, and looking forward to war within.
Uh… what does he mean awaken Tyr in the future? The dude is awake now. He’s sitting that chamber opposite the tier set forge. That human what’s-his-name telling him everything that’s happened since he did the memory backup thing. It was kind of a disappointment. Though admittedly not as bad as Ra being sad and pathetic
atleast Ra-den had his story laid out back in MoP and we got exposition on what he did, what happened to him and why he is the way he is now.
@@wight4991 I know, not saying it didn’t make sense. Makes sense for Tyr to be like, woah wtf bro!? Lol
I guess I, with everything we know about Tyr, I was expecting him to come out of the corner swinging. I’m assuming he will have a greater role to play in the future, unless the writers forget about him…
@@rkramer5629 The model they gave him, the Tyr's Guard (and a player title of it), and having a whole chain quest to awaken him... yea I'm sure they won't forget this one, don't worry
The point is that Tyr woke up, because the Aspects thought they needed him. But they didn't. They grew past needing him. However, being that Tyr was already one of the Watchers that butted heads with the Titan's plan, it didn't take much convincing for him to not be upset that the Aspects regained their power from a different source, not the Titans. I fully expect Tyr to be our ally against Odyn and the Titan loyalists in The Last Titan. We are going to see a full scale reveal about just how shifty the Titans really are and Tyr will have our backs.
@@GrumpyRook He's a Keeper not a Watcher btw, different roles (Keepers are stronger)
The whole 'alternate' timeline thing is so damn confusing, I want simplicity, not writers coming up with lackluster stories with one-dimensional themes
Dragonflight did have some really nice and sweet moments. I loved how Tyrande finally saw Malfurion again and literally ran towards him for a kiss. I honestly can’t remember there was ever a moment in all of warcraft and wow like that.
The gameplay was good that’s enough for me.
Awesome video, thanks !
Thank you for this video, I did the MSQ and but basically forgot everything about the story. I didn´t really care about any of the characters especially since I knew they´re gonna be forgotten as soon as the next expansion rolls around
Am I crazy or did you just straight up not mention how Tyr actually did come back fully but just has decided to wait around for a bit before deciding what to do?
And also did you not mention how the Dragon Aspects were reimpowered by Azeroth herself and that Ebyssian and Merithra are Aspects now.
There isn't any evidence that Azeroth empowered anybody inside the emerald dream at the end of the Amirdrassil raid. The most likely description using Occam's Razor as a principle is to surmise that cosmic team Life empowered the dragons and that is why they are mind controlled with family and not fulfilling their role for the defense of the planet.
Thought he mentioned the azeroth aspect thing twice.
Definitely didn't mention the new aspects
I also thought it was pretty clear the oathstones didnt work because tyr was gone. He poured a part of his power into making them aspects. They are now no longer tyrs dragon aspects, they are azeroths. Also he didn't clarify that azeroth is a titan as well.
@@Ultramarine4th Correction, the dragon aspects are now enslaved to cosmic team Life... azeroth did not do it; and does not exist in the emerald dream, the seed for amirdrassil was made by Elune and empowered with cosmic team Life magic.
I kinda liked the black dragonflight we had forgotten about like Sabellian and Ebyssian being brought back and getting development, I like seeing old characters become more important and the dracthyr and primals are a welcome addition to the dragon lore, after the Shadowlands we needed a more down to earth and casual expansion
You should do the whole story from vanilla to now! Maybe a part a week. I liked dragon flight after coming back since MoP
I think DF's story was meh, but I can appreciate that it does it's own thing instead of pissing all over old lore like SL and (to a lesser extent) BFA did.
@13:50 how do you see Elune in game?
I feel like you guys forgot the point of the oathstone, it was to contact the titans and ask them for power, but the titans just had them on ignore.
So some corrections for you. Emberthal was part of the Adamant Vigil, not Argent Vigil. And the Healing Wings were not disbanded. In fact, some of the blue dragonkin that you rescue during Dracthyr starting area join the weyrn.
I'm pretty sure The Tear of Elune goes all the way back to Legion. It shows up again in Shadow Lands but it was part of the whole thing where you have to kill Ysara.
The Cycle will complete
Before the expansion: THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT!
Mid Expansion: This is kind of not what I expected but let's see if it will get better.
Pre Announcement of next Expansion: The Story is Lame and the Systems suck!
Announcement of next Expansion: THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT!
I know Dragonflight as a whole wasn't overly exciting but it really did mostly what we/it needed it to be, especially after SL. Iridikron is baller though!
iridiwho? oh the stone dragon guy that never did anything meaningful since he was set free and was painted as "Dragonflights Main Antagonist" ?
It was worse than Shadowlands
Shadowlands at least had something going for it, some teeth
Dragonflight felt completely castrated, it was on the level of the recent Disney tv shows
@@macwecek right in DF i felt like i was a kid playing spyro. like a special needs person
The story of Dragonflight walked so that The War Within could run.
that remains to be seen, TWW could just stumble and fall just as easily.
@@Shiirow like shadowlands did whenever people were saying THE EXACT SAME SENTENCE about BfA?
Yeah wow players don't learn, and let me say this, Rats have a better learning curve whenever they are getting zapped multiple times.
Iridikron* recovered and powered up the MacGuffin Xal'Atath needed to start TWW.
Hey - Great video 🙌 What is the song name playing when the credits appear at the end of the video (17:57)?
Thanks dude
I love the side adventure of DF. Reminded me of vanilla.
I used to play wow, joined at WoTlk and sort of stopped after Legion (i enjoyed legion) ive lost my account and plan to start again, fresh. Obviously im a few expansions behind, what order would you recommend content? Or just start with War Within straight away?
I was thinking. BFA, DragonFlight then War Within.
Were not gunna talk about the fact that they fired the story guy Steve halfway through the expansion? I guarantee that was why we saw this shift in the story suddenly setting up the war within saga. and the war within saga itself seemingly coming out of nowhere once Chris came back.
Why would they fire steve halfway through if it was going so well? They wouldnt. He was going to flop on his face and give us another "What is to come" ending and they canned his ass.
There was a story?
Yeah it was hard to tell if there was even a salvageable story underneath the constant browbeating "modern audiences" agenda.
Not exactly what I would call it. I've read better stories from a Mickey Mouse comic book lol
I scrolled down wayyyy to far to find this comment. This needs to be sent to the top of the comments but I doubt it 🤣🤣🤣
@@kerviuskuroshiba5120 so quirky and unique ahahaha x d xd
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I was curious if you guys were going to do videos of what Tank class is best what DPS class is best and what Healer Class is best like you have in the past for The War Within????
love the lore content!
Thanks for the video
Thanks for that ❤
Bellular talking about Oathstones with a straight face :)
Dragonflight taught me that the World of Warcraft isn't about war, or a world, or craft - no, it's about FAMILY
calm down fast and furious
Great vid
Maybe the mother stone didn't work because it knew they were no longer blindly following the titans plan so it didn't give them the power from titans. Interesting its almost as if they will be on our side vs the titans in the future.
the cracks on the dark heart look a lot lke the login screen cracks ngl
I,m wonder where are Aspects in TWW? They got new powers to protect Azeroth but now when Xal'atath attack they are nowhere to be found
they'll be dropped entirely because DF was an abysmal failure
@@slytherben and the fact they didnt hit dragon aspects on their "dartboard of important characters" this time around while playing Expansion Madlibs.
guess the red threat got broken too many times to be patched together by now
Just like with 90% of every crisis, the aspects are just as unreliable as the titan keepers in taking their job seriously
@@slytherben omg you're so cool and edgy!
Would do them good to follow a ff14 style story telling. Tell us the main story during the expansion, then build up the next story in post patch. Ezpz
They never explained how the world was wrong, only kept saying it was. I found it annoying that our characters never asked.
And the thing is..... the ones claiming that the world was wrong..... were villains. Literal villains, doing literal ethically bad things to every living thing around them, and who hated the azeroth world soul and hated mortals and hated any non-dragon life and hated any dragon outside their own genetics.
Listening to villain incarnate dragons complaining about the titans is like watching an episode of Cops on tv where a drug-dealing murderer accuses the police of being terrible because they didn't let the criminal get his cigarettes and his hat before they put him in the back of the squad-car on the way to prison. I have zero sympathy for either of those criminal villains.
Me before I watched this video: "I wonder what is happening in World of Warcraft before this new expansion"
Me after this video: "I don't care what's happening in the world of warcraft"
@@Russtick92 it’s not THAT bad
Too dumb to understand lol?
@@soapgaming4903 it really is though
Imagine thinking youre gonna defeat the gods when it only took a void touched dragon aspect to imprison you
imagine we only started fighting the orcs. Now we're fighting cosmos baby!
I liked Dragonflight a lot tbh, great expansion
The point is to replace war with peace to turn Warcraft to Peacecraft
i bet im not the only one but is it just me or does he look like Samwise
8:05 it bothers me that blizzard never fixed his floating horn model bug
Pls Cover the other Expansion as well
The Titans gave the Aspects each a specific powers, do they still have those powers now that they are empowered by Azeroth?
We don't have any evidence that Azeroth empowered anybody. Since the origin of that empowerment came from inside the emerald dream.... it is very possible that cosmic team Life did the empowering.
Weird Comparison, but i feel like Dragonflight Expansion is pretty much like Skypea Arc from One Piece. It feels like a side adventure where it has little to nothing to do with the main story. then suddenly. BOOM! everything makes sence, And EVERYTHING has something to do with the main story.
Expansion with Knaifu is good expansion, even when as antagonist
Dragonflight had to kind of fix or try and build apon th3 problems of the previous expansion and i would say it did pretty well, it wasnt amazing story telling mind u but it did good and def set up for the next expansion and later on
Sigh it was just easier when you were not the storyline, and were just in the world. I think Blizzard forget they are making a game and not a Fantasy Movie. I would rather see great gameplay then extremely confusing story.
if you've been here for the last 14 years this should be the end lore wise we've come full circle to deal with the void itself that's what it is .that's the story the rest is season after season like all other games.
They retcon Deathwings story? War of the Ancients is when he fell and betrayed the other flights....
so what happens if we arent successful in an expansion? wonder if we cant win in war within? then what? i want that to be a possibility. the stakes should be high.
Imagine creating an army so bad that u have to time them out for essentially ever out of embarrassment 😂😂
Thanks for the videos, very informative however I do miss things in WoW. I miss heroic sweaty characters, I miss the time heroes did not speak about their feelings and I miss not being the savior of the planet. What worries me is that they are not creating any new heroes in the lore, no characters like Ilidan, Garrosh, Varyan or Voljin. Alleria seems cool, but she has been around since WC3. I fear once they run out of WC3 heroes they will run out of lore potential.
Anduin....
The problem isn't that they aren't making new heroes, because they obviously are. Anduin is a great example, Moira, Emberthal, Khadgar, Lorthemar, and the new order of the silver hand led by Travard are all good examples of them making new heroes. The problem is that everyone new they introduce a not insignificant portion of the fan base instantly rejects and demands the heroes of old, before immediately claiming they're failing to make new heroes. Nostalgia is a powerful drug.
> I miss the time heroes did not speak about their feelings
you mean like illidan? in wc3, that cried 24/7 about how tyrande doesn't love him?
I liked Dragonflight's story fine. Though the Oathstones turned out pointless, and the dialogue is a bit cringe in some parts, I did enjoy the experience way more than I did most of BfA and Shadowlands. Certainly a breath of fresh air.
Remember when it was a war between alliance and horde xD
Blizzard sure doesn’t
WoW's climax was Northrend and the Lich King. After killing him, everything else just felt anticlimactic, especially when most of my friends left WoW. "Deathwing"? OOOOOOH... whatever. I was pretty bummed about Cataclysm (despite Vash'jir being such an awesome zone), and although Jade Forest brought back the fun, it's just never been the same. But I'm OK with that. I play in moderation now, without the obsession to constantly upgrade all my toons, and it's still fun. I pay my subscription every three months because each month of WoW is cheaper than a night at the pub, and offers more fun per month. I expect I'll keep playing until they shut down the last server.
Summarized this way the story it’s kinda okay but damn did it feel way worse experiencing it in game. Goes to show how much in game decisions (renown lock, pacing between patches or stories, accesibility, etc) impact the game story
I love the Windrunners. Looking forward to TWW.
From what I'm guessing, from somethat hasn't played since Shadowlands, this makes it seem like much of the story seems to be tied to the raids? So that means nothing really interesting happens in the leveling, and doing the story myself will be annoying. Got it.
A lot of the story is ALWAYS in the raids. Always has been. That being said, the leveling story is the best we've had in years. Right up there with the Alliance side of BFA leveling story or Legion's. If you don't read or listen to the story it's easy to call it bad, but also silly and lazy
I am the only one who liked the expansion? It was a dragon civil war mostly, why need to be more? It was pretty simple and fun, and ok from a lore point of view, not everything need to be a WORLD ENDING event. It was kinda like mist of pandaria!
You have been inspiring to all. In a world of makbelive and wonder. Thank you. We must meet.
Can you please do a story up to now, but in the style of reddits thread "Talk to me like I'm a child"
Love the video. DF storyline was bit hard to follow at times for sure. Noticed a small spelling mistake. 9:27 Iridikron is missing an i.
It's intriguing that you managed to make a 19 min recap of story about children quarrel :D
Making a good story in WoW would require Blizzard to put time and effort into it rather than making what they really want: Raids.
Yes, you CAN do both, but that's money Blizzard doesn't want to spend.
And would it kill them to just have expansions be self contained for once? Not every damn expansion needs to lead into the next big bad.
This might be an unpopular opinion but here it comes:
Dragonflight had the worst story of any wow expansion, worse than shadowlands in my opinion
I didn’t hate shadowlands, it was just bad, but it had an overall wow vibe
Dragonflight is just hot garbage, castrated and souless, not a single spark of the wow vibe was left in it
I really liked DF the new flying system, the story what was not to like in a 20 year old game
Still waiting for another WotLK/MoP/Legion level story. DF wasn't bad though
Ngl, I think when I was dragged aside to do all this weird sands of time stuff, it really stretched my interest and attention thin. I just completely lost interest at that point because it took me away from a storyline i was kind of enjoying and just seemingly tried opening up this nebulous marvel multiverse and i just couldn't be arsed anymore. Now im back and i have no idea whats going on. Honestly, I'd love it if Wow stuck to the Darkshore/Ashenale Horde vs Alliance vibe.
Dragons and elves are the eevee of wow
Good video, makes me glad I skipped that expansion!
2:00
I was tempted to get back into WoW, but this mess of a story has convinced me not to.