@@multivitamin425 Not even, the new aspects will be forget they have new powers, same way everyone forgot about the sword sticking out of Silithus for two expacs.
@@eodyn7I've heard a lot of good things about Dragonflight. But I'm just not in a place for a game like WOW anymore. Too much game not enough free time sadly. But I like to keep up with the story at least. Excited for the Trilogy.
hopefully Blizzard brings Retail WoW too Consoles, with pay once play forever model. For people like this guys situation can casual hop on and play. That would be freaking fantastic , sticking too just PC kinda suck , Dragonflight capital crashes my Battlenet and freezes up the game.. like dam Blizzard it's 2024 , just port it too Xbox and PSN , Nintendo already
I really appreciate your effort into trying to tie in what is essentially an expansion of short stories into one continuous story. This expansion surely will be remembered as one of the expansions of all time
@@tryhardname It's still way longer than 20 minutes lol, have you tried getting a life instead of spending every second of your miserable existence complaining about wow online?
I really didn't care to play dragonflight. I did buy it and play it for a while and it was a ton better than shadowlands, but I ultimately quit after 3 weeks or so, which I can't really even blame on the game. More just my interest level. Really hoping the metzen stuff pans out well. This story could end up concluding in a really awesome way and then setting the tone for the next 20 years like they're claiming it will.
I left in shadownlands and came back recently, so end of dragonflight. And its nearly impossible to see thr story in a coherent way. Mostly as the middle of the story takes renown, but the start and end doesn't, so it will just throw you around the story no matter how hard you try. You will understand it all, but scenes out of order etc. Legit so badly told in-game
It's so strange just being an outsider of the lore now. I came back for Legion and had a ton of fun, then BFA pretty much got me to go on another hiatus, and I haven't been back since, no Classic for me either since there is too much nostalgia baiting going on. Sad to see a whole expansion can be boiled down to a simple 20 minutes, but you did a fantastic job.
@zure7526 You can cut it down way further if you want, Killian Experience condensed the entirety of the story of Warcraft from the first game through to Warlords of Draenor in 12 minutes and still made it perfectly clear that Khadgar is a pretty shit wizard.
So glad to see this release when it did. I recently came back to the expansion after a break for the start of this tier and really hoped you had pieced all the random stuff together and BOOM here it is fresh off the press!
thank you i’ve been really confused having come back to WoW in this final chapter. so this was exactly what i needed. the only thing better would be to have the entire cinematic play with narration in between but honestly i’m very happy with this.
Wow! That was great, honestly! I took a little break and was completely lost with everything that was going on! Thanks Nobbel, your vids are always great!
I like that instead of making Vyranoth change her views on titan empowerment, Azeroth empowered her. Vyranoth has every right to be suspicious of the titans and she recognized that being an aspect will help assist in protecting so she accepted the power from a more natural source.
Thank you for the story! I really had to quit DF after the first two weeks and the Lore (albeit kind of whack) is still very much important to me. Good job!
So is anyone else noticing that Alexstrasza now no longer has a male consort and that her and the ice primal are growing rather close and seem to have history?
So is the Shadowlands sealed off in terms of the story canon? As in we can never physically go there again, meaning we can't visit our loved ones after they die? I understand players can still travel there for gameplay reasons, but in the lore, the story, is it sealed permanently?
It’s so painful to hear “over twenty thousand years of war gets smoothed over off screen.” I’m just so exhausted by the lack of nuance or understanding of how actual people interact. I know it’s called World of Warcraft but we shouldn’t treat War Crimes like an infant accidentally dropping a plate.
Part of me is kind of sad that we didn’t get to see all 4 primal incarnates wreaking havoc together at once in the storyline. I’m a relative newcomer to WoW and they’re already some of my favorite antagonists.
Where have the primalists been for so long? They really held their grudge tight to their chests for…20,000 years or so? And mobilized really quickly without anyone knowing
There weren't any primalists in the past, there had never been any mortals with these villain dragons. They didn't work with any mortals until after SL.... and even then, they were never fulfilling any bargain to those mortals, they were always exploiting them and discarding them and being dishonest with them.
@ndino More because it is terribly stilted and terribly written. It is close to the quality of "The planet is healing, and this is good. Good things are good!" edit: Actually, it is almost on the level of "Magneto defeated with a wooden gun" bad writing, but with a massive budget.
@hypasky bro they talk and are acting like every single character in wow 😂 they have always been overdramatic just cause it's a happy ending is why you think it's cringe 😊
They 1000% hired some mid tier DnD writers for this expansions. DnD rules, things that have never existed in WoW are all over this expansion and it's actually cringe how everything just always works out because it has too be a certain way, so much convience. I pray they where let go already. That new DnD book with all those new races has whoever wrote this expansions little garbage touches all over it too.
*entire expansion of amazing short stories, dragon lore, titan lore, etc etc. Has five minutes of 'Oh shit its the old gods' at the end* GUYS THE ENTIRE EXPANSION WAS ABOUT THE OLD GODS
I really hope they add an in-game way to go through the entire story of WoW in some future expansion. One canon telling that would cover everything important with speech bubbles or voice acting along with any needed cinematics. The universe has such fun lore but the methods of getting the stories are terrible in-game as so much has been removed, retconned or is in books/comics.
Thank youuu, I started playing the expansion in December and the only thing I have to do is Amirdrassil (so I won’t finish the video) When I tell you I did everything before that but I couldn’t for the life of me explain what happened in a timeline… The quests are given in any order and you end up jumping back and forth in time… It was awful. At one point I allied with Vyranoth before she was freed from her prison 🙃
So we still dont know what it was that called the dragons home. And was it the dragons being close to the isles that awakened Koronos? And how does the beacon work? Is the natural state of the isles to be hidden and slumbering? The beacon had to be turned on to reveal the isles
Except there was even more drama in DF... and violations of real lore. That, and the fact that ALL 3 of the major raids of this expansion were narrative lies.
I know I am on the wrong channel for this but df did pretty much everything right in my book EXCEPT the story. Dragon riding, Skill trees, upgrade system, crafting, raids all of those pretty good and can be even better with minor improvements
@@KatesDirtySister I don't know...... the incoherent story that violated previous lore may have been my biggest problem........ but I think there were lesser problems yet unavoidable problems with the new talent system and professions and upgrade system. The sheer amount of unfun needed to finish upgrading items you already had was pretty terrible. Not as terrible as azerite armor or covenants, but still terrible. And the profession system was a disaster that profited only the exploiters and abusers while harming the vast majority of casual players. Again, maybe not as terrible as the shadowland legendary crafting system, but still terrible. And the new talent system has been pretty bad, forcing false divisions between aoe and single target that never should have been forced and ossified in the system, as well as making balance between performance of various specs even more imbalanced. Made even worse by them inventing tier set bonuses that "forced" people to pick talents they didn't want and which violated playstyles and made rotations worse for at least half the specs in the game. Again, to repeat, yes..... it was better than shadowlands; but shadowlands had such an incredible downturn that going up from there is still very low.
@@laertesindeed Could you elaborate on the 3 raids being narrative lies? I kinda just ran through the expac but Im invested in lore and want to know these kind of details:)
@@joseeduardomartinezsanchez3535 The corporation that runs this website tends to shadowban my comments since I have typed it out before on other videos..... but I'll give it a go. You say if you see it this time. Vault of the Incarnates: There was no prison cell for Raszageth anywhere in that entire raid....nor was there any prison cell in the forbidden reach where we found her, she didn't get defeated or imprisoned by the Titans, she got defeated by Neltharion serving N'Zoth. She never cared about Azeroth, she never cared about other dragons, she never cared about mortals....not even the slaves in her primalist cults. She lied to her cultists over and over and over again, exploiting and betraying and deleting them; while exploiting and betraying and mutating dragon eggs as well. There were no primal dragons with sentience "ANYWHERE" on the dragon isles or anywhere else on the planet besides those 4 named villains. Literally, all the primal dragons were dumb as a box of rocks, with less intelligence than a cow or duck or crocolisk..... so they could not possibly have been part of any army that ever fought against the dragon aspects way back before the sundering. There was never any explanation, then, of how those 4 villains were given intelligence let alone magic visage forms, nor any acknowledgement of the evil they did against mortals. Aberrus: It was a total lie, the ghost image of Neltharion that follows you around in the raid is not actually Neltharion and never was, it was a faceless one telling you lies. Therefore, it is yet another unreliable narrator..... so everything you see in the lab, and everything any characters inside that lab say..... can just be a lie. The faceless one could have done it all, including all the experiments, and all the hiding artifacts or secrets, all the enslaving of djaradin, all the creation of the dracthyr as a species....... every last single shred of it could have been done by the faceless one ghost and "NOT" Neltharion at all. When Nozdormu tries to retrieve a memory of the past from Emberthal in the animated cinematic which we saw just before the launch of Dragonflight, where she saw an image of Neltharion leading them and then using void powers..... literally we have no way of knowing if that wasn't also the faceless one in disguise using void powers to capture Raszageth and then putting all the dracthyr into stasis. Amirdrassil: Also a total lie. Freya never showed up anywhere in the dream. Elune never showed up anywhere in the dream. Eonar never showed up anywhere in the dream. All the fake magical characters in that dream (not just the ones turned to fire, but the non-fire ones also) did not give one shred of care for us, or mortals, or the world soul inside Azeroth, or the planet Azeroth itself. They tried to murder us, and they exploited and lied to the many thousands of dead night elf souls which they were using as fuel. There is "ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE" that azeroth gave any powers to any dragons in that raid. We have yet another unreliable narrator spoken claim about it, and no lore showing any such thing. Considering that power was given to an evil ice dragon mass genocidal ecosystem destroyer like vyranoth.....then it makes no sense that the world soul inside azeroth would ever participate in such a way. And considering that the replacement writing in that raid totally disregarded and violated and contradicted the entire purpose of those aspects..... Earth/Time/Magic/Life/Dream ........ where we "NEVER" learned anything about Earth/Time/Magic/Life/Dream and did not use any of those to help the world soul nor the planet.......... Then we are left thinking that some kind of evil cosmic Life villains hiding in the emerald dream somewhere just created a borg collective hivemind from the dragon aspects where they are finishing each others' sentences and repeating a mantra of together, family, together, family, together, family, together, family that totally excludes and victimizes every mortal other than dragons on the planet. They stopped being protectors of Earth/Magic/Time/Life/Dream and turned into a xenophobic group of greedy predators that only focus on themselves and their own genetic relatives. Yet all 3 of these major raids was presented as if they meant something else..... and you'll have some players that didn't pay attention to any of the quests, or fans that didn't actually play but just watched some cinematics online.... all assuming that these 3 raids mean something different from what the actual bad writing showed. Some of them still think that Vault had any evidence for Titans doing anything wrong, and Aberrus being some objective account of what Neltharion did, and Amirdrassil being some kind of empowerment by Azeroth in dimensions where she does not exist......... all of which is wrong; and not presented in the writing that way at all.
I quit playing during BFA when Blizzard completely ruined the Horde's storyline. Watched this to see what is going on with the Horde these days. Literally not mentioned once. Business as usual I guess.
This expansion i feel improved a lot of the in game mechanics, the flying and world quests were fun but from a lore aspect I’m just so confused now, especially as a player in the horde who has followed all the stories, I’m just left feeling confused and unsure how my character fits into all of it 🤷
These writers for the story gotta be the same writers for kong skull island. "an undiscovered island" as soon as humans started flying in airplanes that idea went out the window. Also these aspects can turn into dragons and fly but they can't find the dragon isles again. It makes no sense. They just are trying to make it like mists of pandaria because that was the last successful expansion they had.
I'm still wondering what exactly woke the isles. The death of The Jailer or the pain of Azeroth or maybe the coming of a new threat ? The world is healing ? Who took the sword of Sargeras off ?
Hi Nobbel, I wanted to thank you for all your work! I have trouble falling asleep at night and your Spotify uploads are basically the only thing that can help me with that, so I'm really thankful :) Oh, and I also really enjoy watching your videos when I'm awake ofc :p
Hey Nobbel are you going to continue your lore video when Chronicle Part 4 comes out? It says in the plot summary: “In the wake of cataclysmic events across Azeroth, new adventures and old dangers await those willing to meet them. From the rediscovery of lost lands to a demonic invasion that sees Horde and Alliance banding together to a journey into the Shadowlands themselves, fans won't want to miss this comprehensive volume packed with fresh story insights, gorgeous original artwork, maps, cosmology charts, character family trees and more!”
@@eodyn7 Dragonflight doesn't have any footing. The customer reaction, let alone the content creator reaction like Nobbel/Acco/Bellular/etc demonstrates that it didn't achieve any footing. The promises by Metzen at blizzcon that he wants people to come back and that his team needs to do things right means...... that the ex-team for Dragonflight did not do it right.
I consider it more than cheesy. It felt like a complete lie. As if some group of villains deep inside the emerald dream was performing mind control on the dragons and getting them to be incredibly ignorant of their purpose, violating their purpose, betraying the planet and every other mortal....... all while forcing these dragons into some kind of Borg Collective Hivemind where they repeat together, family, together, family, together, family, together, family.. over and over. They never once taught us anything about Earth/Time/Magic/Life/Dream and they didn't use Earth/Time/Magic/Life/Dream to protect the planet nor the mortals on that planet. They spent the entire expansion doing greedy stuff "ONLY" for dragons.
Neltharion's form is a human, which also didn't exist back then. But they have a flight designed around time travel, so it was probably time travel shenanigans on why they are shaped after species that weren't even around yet.
What do you mean outta nowhere? The whole black dragon narrative is about how Sabellion and Wrathion are immature, self-centered pricks with tainted motivations, while Ebonhorn is getting shit done.
all the characters look like power rangers of different colours and everything is about working together as friends and family, is this made for little kids? i think its very very lame and the conversations are cringe af, ill be playing for the gameplay, probably will be skipping every single cinematic and quest text, cant handle that much lame writing...
@@goestheboom5211 na, alot of people agree with me, they characters are lame af and the writing sounds like its trying to teach kids to accept and love eachother, not world of warcraft lol
WoW is horrible at telling a cohesive story. Every expansion i lose track if the story and have to watch videos like this to even figure out what is going on.
Thank f**** they killed Fyrakk asap, one of the worst "villains" in WoW recent history. Had it live any longer would have prolly reach Tom n Jerry levels of ridiculousness.
The visual designs for the new trio in general look weird, but yeah Fyrakk was by far the worst. HIs looks, voice, even his animation style were all so weirdly off base for warcraft. Not an insult it felt like a Rachet and Clank villain jumped universes.
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And now that the dragons have their power back, they will mightily sit back and do nothing all next expansion(s)
some villain will activate the macguffin and reset everyone's powers
@@multivitamin425 Not even, the new aspects will be forget they have new powers, same way everyone forgot about the sword sticking out of Silithus for two expacs.
@@RT42-v6zWell it seems they remembered surprisingly.
Having bailed on WoW a while ago, I've been waiting for Nobbel to release a condensed version of the storyline. Thanks for this
You're missing out. WoW is the best it has been in years.
@@eodyn7I've heard a lot of good things about Dragonflight. But I'm just not in a place for a game like WOW anymore. Too much game not enough free time sadly. But I like to keep up with the story at least. Excited for the Trilogy.
@@eodyn7gameplay is great. Everything else is ass. This is easily the worst story in the game.
this isn't condensed.
hopefully Blizzard brings Retail WoW too Consoles, with pay once play forever model. For people like this guys situation can casual hop on and play. That would be freaking fantastic , sticking too just PC kinda suck , Dragonflight capital crashes my Battlenet and freezes up the game.. like dam Blizzard it's 2024 , just port it too Xbox and PSN , Nintendo already
I really appreciate your effort into trying to tie in what is essentially an expansion of short stories into one continuous story.
This expansion surely will be remembered as one of the expansions of all time
Worst. You mean it was the second worst expansion of wow ever. Which it is.
@@laertesindeed You're dense if you don't think Dragonflight was a good expansion.
@@eodyn7Everything new = bad, everything old = good. These chuckles are the same ones trying to claim that Warlords was a misunderstood gem.
😂😂😂😂 lay off the copium pipe man. But if you compare it the to previous 2 turds of course is a bit better (when bar is set so low the only way is up)
Expansion was mid get over it lol.
"Over 20.000 years of War is smoothed over offscreen". Blizzard storytelling at its finest.
It's the Emerald Nightmare resolution all over again
The entire Dragonflight story crammed in 20 minutes.
And it's stretched
Yeah, the story had a lot of breather space with these limitations.
No it isn't, he missed out so much of the nuance@@tryhardname
@@NanoLT bruh just don't. They cut the story short and we all know it.
@@tryhardname It's still way longer than 20 minutes lol, have you tried getting a life instead of spending every second of your miserable existence complaining about wow online?
Nobbel you tell the Story of Dragonflight better than Dragonflight itself.
Take all my likes, pin this and close the comments this expansion is done.
I really didn't care to play dragonflight. I did buy it and play it for a while and it was a ton better than shadowlands, but I ultimately quit after 3 weeks or so, which I can't really even blame on the game. More just my interest level. Really hoping the metzen stuff pans out well. This story could end up concluding in a really awesome way and then setting the tone for the next 20 years like they're claiming it will.
DF pretty much the Disney Amusement Park , before the War Within comes out .
Agreed! Came back after 7years and I’m lost. I can’t make heads or tails of the storyline of the current expansion.
I left in shadownlands and came back recently, so end of dragonflight. And its nearly impossible to see thr story in a coherent way. Mostly as the middle of the story takes renown, but the start and end doesn't, so it will just throw you around the story no matter how hard you try. You will understand it all, but scenes out of order etc. Legit so badly told in-game
A finale Dom Toretto would be proud of. It’s all about family.
That’s what I was thinking hahahaha, dragon riding is 2 fast 2 furious
i burst out laughing when i heard it lmao
Never have I heard you cover a story recap so sarcastically. Well done.
It's so strange just being an outsider of the lore now. I came back for Legion and had a ton of fun, then BFA pretty much got me to go on another hiatus, and I haven't been back since, no Classic for me either since there is too much nostalgia baiting going on. Sad to see a whole expansion can be boiled down to a simple 20 minutes, but you did a fantastic job.
you can boil down any story to 20 minutes if you cut off the details tbh
I also came back in Legion and then left in Shadowlands because it was extreme trash. I used all my gold so I wouldn't be tempted to return.
@zure7526 You can cut it down way further if you want, Killian Experience condensed the entirety of the story of Warcraft from the first game through to Warlords of Draenor in 12 minutes and still made it perfectly clear that Khadgar is a pretty shit wizard.
This ending cinematic was so expositive i learned the secrets of the universe
It feels like they took the story outline made in ChatGPT and just read it out loud lmao
We used to get 2 hour videos for a singular character, now a 20 minute video for an entire expansion. How the mighty have fallen blizzard.
So glad to see this release when it did. I recently came back to the expansion after a break for the start of this tier and really hoped you had pieced all the random stuff together and BOOM here it is fresh off the press!
Looks like I didnt miss a single thing.
thank you i’ve been really confused having come back to WoW in this final chapter. so this was exactly what i needed. the only thing better would be to have the entire cinematic play with narration in between but honestly i’m very happy with this.
Wow! That was great, honestly! I took a little break and was completely lost with everything that was going on! Thanks Nobbel, your vids are always great!
I like that instead of making Vyranoth change her views on titan empowerment, Azeroth empowered her. Vyranoth has every right to be suspicious of the titans and she recognized that being an aspect will help assist in protecting so she accepted the power from a more natural source.
after all those year s - i still love listening to your well researched lore videos :D
Awesome video as always! I would love an extended version with more cutscenes and moments.
After spending an entire expansion flying face first into trees, it feels like a cruel joke to force us to grow the biggest tree on Azeroth.
Thank you for the story!
I really had to quit DF after the first two weeks and the Lore (albeit kind of whack) is still very much important to me.
Good job!
Story was decent. Not bad, but also not good. Looking forward for Metzen’s return.
I'm not sure he'll be able to salvage things. You can't go full scorched earth for so long and still expect to yield anything of value.
It's a Faster&Furious movie?
F A M I L Y 👨🦲
Many thanks for the lore retrospective!
If not for this channel i would have no idea what's going on
So is anyone else noticing that Alexstrasza now no longer has a male consort and that her and the ice primal are growing rather close and seem to have history?
After learning about the family a new flight was created, Diesel flight.
With their leader Vin, they are known as especially fast and furious.
Thank you so much for this video nobbel!!
"Nothing is stronger but Family" - Dom Toretto
So is the Shadowlands sealed off in terms of the story canon? As in we can never physically go there again, meaning we can't visit our loved ones after they die? I understand players can still travel there for gameplay reasons, but in the lore, the story, is it sealed permanently?
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man this guys accent never gets clearer even after all these years, thank god for subtitles
Its atrocious.
I quit wow about 1.5 years ago and I feel like I've missed... nothing
It’s so painful to hear “over twenty thousand years of war gets smoothed over off screen.” I’m just so exhausted by the lack of nuance or understanding of how actual people interact. I know it’s called World of Warcraft but we shouldn’t treat War Crimes like an infant accidentally dropping a plate.
Dragonflight felt like it was made by AI. It wasn't the worst thing world of Warcraft at, but i gave up playing because of it.
What made you think AI was used? I don't play WoW but I find it to be an interesting game I missed the best moments of.
Part of me is kind of sad that we didn’t get to see all 4 primal incarnates wreaking havoc together at once in the storyline. I’m a relative newcomer to WoW and they’re already some of my favorite antagonists.
Where have the primalists been for so long? They really held their grudge tight to their chests for…20,000 years or so? And mobilized really quickly without anyone knowing
There weren't any primalists in the past, there had never been any mortals with these villain dragons. They didn't work with any mortals until after SL.... and even then, they were never fulfilling any bargain to those mortals, they were always exploiting them and discarding them and being dishonest with them.
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It is not often I say this, but...
Wow, that entire cutscene made me cringe.
Why because they got a bunch of Fruity color hair dye peeps having a dialog with each other ? 😂
Oooh nm , it's like a Old Saturday morning Cartoon acting going on lol
@ndino More because it is terribly stilted and terribly written. It is close to the quality of "The planet is healing, and this is good. Good things are good!"
edit: Actually, it is almost on the level of "Magneto defeated with a wooden gun" bad writing, but with a massive budget.
I thought the exact same thing. "It was about coming together as a family" "and so we did". The dialogue and acting is just cringey
@hypasky bro they talk and are acting like every single character in wow 😂 they have always been overdramatic just cause it's a happy ending is why you think it's cringe 😊
great vid!
They 1000% hired some mid tier DnD writers for this expansions. DnD rules, things that have never existed in WoW are all over this expansion and it's actually cringe how everything just always works out because it has too be a certain way, so much convience. I pray they where let go already. That new DnD book with all those new races has whoever wrote this expansions little garbage touches all over it too.
Remember when dragon flight was gonna be a classic adventure like BFA and also was just about old gods again .
@@Upuroade one raid and a couple dungeons?
*entire expansion of amazing short stories, dragon lore, titan lore, etc etc. Has five minutes of 'Oh shit its the old gods' at the end* GUYS THE ENTIRE EXPANSION WAS ABOUT THE OLD GODS
@@LordsSky bruh that was the first patch. The last two major patches are nothing but us dealing with old God scheming.
@@Upuroade I could say the game is mostly about ogres and trolls since they are almost in every zone.
I love your stories best just because of the rolling r’s. I have to skip back often it’s so distracting lol
Ok but....wtf happens to decatriarch wratheye
I really hope they add an in-game way to go through the entire story of WoW in some future expansion. One canon telling that would cover everything important with speech bubbles or voice acting along with any needed cinematics. The universe has such fun lore but the methods of getting the stories are terrible in-game as so much has been removed, retconned or is in books/comics.
They'd have to cut a wholeeeee lotttttt of content
Thank youuu, I started playing the expansion in December and the only thing I have to do is Amirdrassil (so I won’t finish the video)
When I tell you I did everything before that but I couldn’t for the life of me explain what happened in a timeline… The quests are given in any order and you end up jumping back and forth in time… It was awful.
At one point I allied with Vyranoth before she was freed from her prison 🙃
So Wrathion got cucked and some other random dude is the leader now?
So we still dont know what it was that called the dragons home. And was it the dragons being close to the isles that awakened Koronos? And how does the beacon work? Is the natural state of the isles to be hidden and slumbering? The beacon had to be turned on to reveal the isles
Enjoyed it a lot , def good expac to wind the drama from SL down
Except there was even more drama in DF... and violations of real lore. That, and the fact that ALL 3 of the major raids of this expansion were narrative lies.
I know I am on the wrong channel for this but df did pretty much everything right in my book EXCEPT the story.
Dragon riding, Skill trees, upgrade system, crafting, raids all of those pretty good and can be even better with minor improvements
@@KatesDirtySister I don't know...... the incoherent story that violated previous lore may have been my biggest problem........ but I think there were lesser problems yet unavoidable problems with the new talent system and professions and upgrade system. The sheer amount of unfun needed to finish upgrading items you already had was pretty terrible. Not as terrible as azerite armor or covenants, but still terrible. And the profession system was a disaster that profited only the exploiters and abusers while harming the vast majority of casual players. Again, maybe not as terrible as the shadowland legendary crafting system, but still terrible. And the new talent system has been pretty bad, forcing false divisions between aoe and single target that never should have been forced and ossified in the system, as well as making balance between performance of various specs even more imbalanced. Made even worse by them inventing tier set bonuses that "forced" people to pick talents they didn't want and which violated playstyles and made rotations worse for at least half the specs in the game.
Again, to repeat, yes..... it was better than shadowlands; but shadowlands had such an incredible downturn that going up from there is still very low.
@@laertesindeed Could you elaborate on the 3 raids being narrative lies? I kinda just ran through the expac but Im invested in lore and want to know these kind of details:)
@@joseeduardomartinezsanchez3535 The corporation that runs this website tends to shadowban my comments since I have typed it out before on other videos..... but I'll give it a go. You say if you see it this time.
Vault of the Incarnates: There was no prison cell for Raszageth anywhere in that entire raid....nor was there any prison cell in the forbidden reach where we found her, she didn't get defeated or imprisoned by the Titans, she got defeated by Neltharion serving N'Zoth. She never cared about Azeroth, she never cared about other dragons, she never cared about mortals....not even the slaves in her primalist cults. She lied to her cultists over and over and over again, exploiting and betraying and deleting them; while exploiting and betraying and mutating dragon eggs as well. There were no primal dragons with sentience "ANYWHERE" on the dragon isles or anywhere else on the planet besides those 4 named villains. Literally, all the primal dragons were dumb as a box of rocks, with less intelligence than a cow or duck or crocolisk..... so they could not possibly have been part of any army that ever fought against the dragon aspects way back before the sundering. There was never any explanation, then, of how those 4 villains were given intelligence let alone magic visage forms, nor any acknowledgement of the evil they did against mortals.
Aberrus: It was a total lie, the ghost image of Neltharion that follows you around in the raid is not actually Neltharion and never was, it was a faceless one telling you lies. Therefore, it is yet another unreliable narrator..... so everything you see in the lab, and everything any characters inside that lab say..... can just be a lie. The faceless one could have done it all, including all the experiments, and all the hiding artifacts or secrets, all the enslaving of djaradin, all the creation of the dracthyr as a species....... every last single shred of it could have been done by the faceless one ghost and "NOT" Neltharion at all. When Nozdormu tries to retrieve a memory of the past from Emberthal in the animated cinematic which we saw just before the launch of Dragonflight, where she saw an image of Neltharion leading them and then using void powers..... literally we have no way of knowing if that wasn't also the faceless one in disguise using void powers to capture Raszageth and then putting all the dracthyr into stasis.
Amirdrassil: Also a total lie. Freya never showed up anywhere in the dream. Elune never showed up anywhere in the dream. Eonar never showed up anywhere in the dream. All the fake magical characters in that dream (not just the ones turned to fire, but the non-fire ones also) did not give one shred of care for us, or mortals, or the world soul inside Azeroth, or the planet Azeroth itself. They tried to murder us, and they exploited and lied to the many thousands of dead night elf souls which they were using as fuel. There is "ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE" that azeroth gave any powers to any dragons in that raid. We have yet another unreliable narrator spoken claim about it, and no lore showing any such thing. Considering that power was given to an evil ice dragon mass genocidal ecosystem destroyer like vyranoth.....then it makes no sense that the world soul inside azeroth would ever participate in such a way. And considering that the replacement writing in that raid totally disregarded and violated and contradicted the entire purpose of those aspects..... Earth/Time/Magic/Life/Dream ........ where we "NEVER" learned anything about Earth/Time/Magic/Life/Dream and did not use any of those to help the world soul nor the planet.......... Then we are left thinking that some kind of evil cosmic Life villains hiding in the emerald dream somewhere just created a borg collective hivemind from the dragon aspects where they are finishing each others' sentences and repeating a mantra of together, family, together, family, together, family, together, family that totally excludes and victimizes every mortal other than dragons on the planet. They stopped being protectors of Earth/Magic/Time/Life/Dream and turned into a xenophobic group of greedy predators that only focus on themselves and their own genetic relatives.
Yet all 3 of these major raids was presented as if they meant something else..... and you'll have some players that didn't pay attention to any of the quests, or fans that didn't actually play but just watched some cinematics online.... all assuming that these 3 raids mean something different from what the actual bad writing showed. Some of them still think that Vault had any evidence for Titans doing anything wrong, and Aberrus being some objective account of what Neltharion did, and Amirdrassil being some kind of empowerment by Azeroth in dimensions where she does not exist......... all of which is wrong; and not presented in the writing that way at all.
Gaaaah that final cinematic is so boring. I’m ok with the story, it’s just presented like a PowerPoint.
I quit playing during BFA when Blizzard completely ruined the Horde's storyline. Watched this to see what is going on with the Horde these days. Literally not mentioned once. Business as usual I guess.
This expansion i feel improved a lot of the in game mechanics, the flying and world quests were fun but from a lore aspect I’m just so confused now, especially as a player in the horde who has followed all the stories, I’m just left feeling confused and unsure how my character fits into all of it 🤷
What on earth does that mean "as a bonus"?
I'm so confused. How do they get their powers back???
You've always been an inspiration for me as someone who tells stories. I hope to count with your support one day on my RUclips channel 🎉
I do wonder how you may interpret the story of Eternity's End and the Sepulcher of the First Ones.
These writers for the story gotta be the same writers for kong skull island. "an undiscovered island" as soon as humans started flying in airplanes that idea went out the window. Also these aspects can turn into dragons and fly but they can't find the dragon isles again. It makes no sense. They just are trying to make it like mists of pandaria because that was the last successful expansion they had.
I'm still wondering what exactly woke the isles. The death of The Jailer or the pain of Azeroth or maybe the coming of a new threat ?
The world is healing ? Who took the sword of Sargeras off ?
If only they kept Alexstrasza's model from the thumbnail.
Hi Nobbel, I wanted to thank you for all your work! I have trouble falling asleep at night and your Spotify uploads are basically the only thing that can help me with that, so I'm really thankful :)
Oh, and I also really enjoy watching your videos when I'm awake ofc :p
Hey Nobbel are you going to continue your lore video when Chronicle Part 4 comes out?
It says in the plot summary:
“In the wake of cataclysmic events across Azeroth, new adventures and old dangers await those willing to meet them. From the rediscovery of lost lands to a demonic invasion that sees Horde and Alliance banding together to a journey into the Shadowlands themselves, fans won't want to miss this comprehensive volume packed with fresh story insights, gorgeous original artwork, maps, cosmology charts, character
family trees and more!”
yea yea! gonna cover chronicles 4
it really was a filler expansion huh.
To summarize you can skip the whole expansion if all you care about is lore.
"Dragonflight" was a good expansion where WoW regained its footing. I can't wait for "The War Within".
I'm not sure what you mean.....?
@@laertesindeed Where are you confused? Shadowlands was a rough expansion and Dragonflight was a good expansion where a lot of things were improved.
@@eodyn7 Dragonflight doesn't have any footing. The customer reaction, let alone the content creator reaction like Nobbel/Acco/Bellular/etc demonstrates that it didn't achieve any footing. The promises by Metzen at blizzcon that he wants people to come back and that his team needs to do things right means...... that the ex-team for Dragonflight did not do it right.
Never thought the DF had a story...
I just came back to the game after 3 years, did the story, and not sure what the shit happened, i only did campaign and i got so confused.
Oh look, an underwhelming story told by modern Blizzard, who would have thought.
Story of red mommy and her mates
9:35 is that a fart lol?
Good video shit story
i don't know, like, the ending is a little cheesy, but i kinda liked it
I consider it more than cheesy. It felt like a complete lie. As if some group of villains deep inside the emerald dream was performing mind control on the dragons and getting them to be incredibly ignorant of their purpose, violating their purpose, betraying the planet and every other mortal....... all while forcing these dragons into some kind of Borg Collective Hivemind where they repeat together, family, together, family, together, family, together, family.. over and over. They never once taught us anything about Earth/Time/Magic/Life/Dream and they didn't use Earth/Time/Magic/Life/Dream to protect the planet nor the mortals on that planet. They spent the entire expansion doing greedy stuff "ONLY" for dragons.
Why is Sindragosa black as a blue Dragon withmagic afination and also a highelve, Malygos also? They didnt exist then?
Oh my God, dude, you can't just ask why people are black.
Neltharion's form is a human, which also didn't exist back then.
But they have a flight designed around time travel, so it was probably time travel shenanigans on why they are shaped after species that weren't even around yet.
@@mokarokas-1727 why i cant? We dont care american Bullshit and racism here in switzerland. Its a normal question
@@Ten_Tacles asked about that also and no one has a answere. Only Nozdormu would make sense. But the others have no clue about
why are there taurens in the dragon isles calling us "outsiders"?
Family ♥
Worst end cinematic ever, but a great video from Nobbel. Thank you.
First expansion I never even touched, huh. Probably classic n that coming out same time but still, ive no idea wtf going on
Family was the true loot all along...
Lame.
Bro,this story line suck balls XD
Sabellian not becoming the Leader and instead they toss it to Ebonhorn out of nowhere was the biggest slap in the face
Why do either of the bitchtwins who spent the entire expansion fighting over power deserve to be aspects?
What do you mean outta nowhere?
The whole black dragon narrative is about how Sabellion and Wrathion are immature, self-centered pricks with tainted motivations, while Ebonhorn is getting shit done.
So sad to see that the videos getting shorter as the story is stupid and boring and short
This is definitely better than Shadowlands lets be real
Dragonflight is a good start of a fix
Thanks Blizzard
You made a medium fix
Probably because the Jailer arc was terrible and should be forgotten. The less the game mentions that trash the better.
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I'm so glad I skipped this one as well.
It was really fun
That Fyrakk end cinematic is such supreme cringe.
Why do you say "time period"? Is there space period?
Why are you pretending "time period" is not a common thing to say?
@@mokarokas-1727 I never said that
Im so happy that i skipped this expansion
all the characters look like power rangers of different colours and everything is about working together as friends and family, is this made for little kids? i think its very very lame and the conversations are cringe af, ill be playing for the gameplay, probably will be skipping every single cinematic and quest text, cant handle that much lame writing...
Oh yeah cause working together and happy endings are lame and childish 😂😂😂 bro just hates life
@@goestheboom5211 na, alot of people agree with me, they characters are lame af and the writing sounds like its trying to teach kids to accept and love eachother, not world of warcraft lol
you know that expansion is shit when Nobbel full lore video is 20 minutes :D :D
5 reten
A good job but you can't fix bad writing!
I didn't play Dragonflight. I appreciate this catch up, but Jesus Christ that Disney ending was cringe.
Shit made less sense than Shadowlands...Chris Metzen please salvage and end this thing on a high note
WoW is horrible at telling a cohesive story. Every expansion i lose track if the story and have to watch videos like this to even figure out what is going on.
Far out the story is bad and lame Feel for u, mate since ur focus is lore.
Thank f**** they killed Fyrakk asap, one of the worst "villains" in WoW recent history. Had it live any longer would have prolly reach Tom n Jerry levels of ridiculousness.
The visual designs for the new trio in general look weird, but yeah Fyrakk was by far the worst. HIs looks, voice, even his animation style were all so weirdly off base for warcraft. Not an insult it felt like a Rachet and Clank villain jumped universes.
It's so bad lol
World of Furry femboycraft
As I saids????
Why do you talk like that?
Why do you add random "s" at the end of sentences?
Annoying af
Midflight