They forget that Jehovah never said to trust in a human. As a matter of fact, he said not to. "Do NOT put your trust in princes or in mortal man" Ps 146:3. The gb admits it's not infallible, get's things wrong and makes mistakes, but will never apologize".
Romans 13:1-4, 6 ASV [1] Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God; and the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Therefore he that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that withstand shall receive to themselves judgment. [3] For rulers are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. And wouldest thou have no fear of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise from the same: [4] It is God’s servant given for your benefit. But if you do what’s wrong, be afraid because it doesn’t have weapons to enforce the law for nothing. It is God’s servant put in place to carry out his punishment on those who do what is wrong. [6] You should also pay taxes for the same reason, because the authorities are God’s assistants, concerned with this very thing. bible.com/bible/12/rom.13.1-6.ASV
I remember my JW brother asking why I was watching "apostate" content. I told him I was trying to find videos of people talking about why they joined JWs, and couldn't find anything haha. I asked why they don't use youtube to try to reach people as it's the most popular video platform, but they're pretty confident about the website apparently. He tries to tell me the NWT is widely supported by scholars. Can't find any one supporting it outside the cult.
the WWW world wide web, a web that can easliy entangle , its amazing they placed spirtual food on this worldly platform instead of providing physical bible and publications
@@Masi.Capone *"the NWT is widely supported by scholars."* This is a common JW claim. They believe it because WT tells them this, but they never check it out themselves to learn it's NOT TRUE.
@@adamantiumbullet9215on their website they list about 10 so-called " scholars". In almost every single case the person has no training in the original languages, no linguistics or exegetical background and their qualifications have nothing to do with biblical languages. On the other hand 99% of the greatest greek and Hebrew scholars laugh at the NWT.
7:17 is not a prophecy; it’s a parable, a story that Jesus was giving. If you look at Luke 12:41, Peter asks, ‘Jesus, can you give that illustration again?’ If it were a prophecy, it would have been stated as such. It’s an illustration. And let’s remember the governing body isn’t infallible nor inspired
The ability to revise history, lie about certain teachings, & gaslight its members is quite astonishing. I love how they dismiss the history of wars, famine, injustice, earthquakes, etc. well b4 1914. I also appreciate how they tend to add words, subtly, into scriptures to make it appear modern day is a fulfillment while telling its members how & what they see and/or feel.
Can never get my head around all good JW are just waiting for the world to end. So the rest of us sinners get what is coming to us! If that is not creepy not sure what is
It's a bit like planning your funeral and last will and testament from the age of five and ignoring all else for 65-70 years but your anticipated death.
Back in the seventies, there was a JW family with three little boys, they were friends with my brothers. After field service on Saturday, they would drive around town and go "house shopping" for the houses they would live in after "Armageddon." Very sad.
@astridmiller7938 Moreover, all of Christendom is waiting and watching for the return of Christ, our blessed hope. Witnesses are waiting and watching for the coming of "Armageddon."
Back in the day there was a tele-church called "watching the world". This intro reminds me of that except back then jws used to talk sh#to about that church
Watchtower: "As a result of Christ's rule, the knowledge of Jehovah is abundant and overflowing." Also Watchtower: "But the fact is that we will not be able to share the good news with each individual on earth before the end comes." May 2024 study edition of the Watchtower p.10, par.7
"every trial we've been through, we can see how Jehovah has helped us." Right, let's just forget the most recent court cases, the ARC, the NZRC and so on and so forth.
Yes. Australia Royal Commission was the Way the Almighty GOD YHVH and his son Crist Jesus are bringing justice to victims of CSA.. By exposing GB before the entire world 🌎..
Reminds me of the intro to the show Praise the Lord on the Trinity Broadcasting Network TBN, just with different music 🥳 Just different flavors of weird religion I guess 🤪
Wayyyy longer than 10yrs!!! Armageddon was supposed to come when I was 3 in 1975. I am now going on 52!! The cult members who recruited my mother was waiting for Armageddon also which was FORTY NINE yrs ago and they had been in the cult long before they recruited/hijacked her! They're both dead now & my mother is almost 70 still running on the cult treadmill & getting nowhere but to the grave real fast!! Smfh
A recurring phrase used by the Jehovah's Witnesses go on about "The faithful and discreet slave". Don't they know that slavery is illegal across most of the world? Perhaps why they want their slaves to be "discreet" - so nobody on the outside knows who the enslaved are...?
Yes Jehovah choose these men who are money making false prophet apostates who he hates and offers no redemption through Jesus's sacrifice as Revelation 20:10 says .. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Why would anyone put their trust and faith toward men who are rebellious and disrespectful to Jesus as he said no one knows of the time not even he. ????? The top men of the Watchtower Corporation have been false prophet apostates since the late 1800's. The bible even warns about false prophets and says to not listen to them. 😳
*** w17 February p. 26 par. 12 Who Is Leading God’s People Today? *** The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.
Seriously? ... A woman holding a shield against arrows? ... Is this a not-so-subtle subconscious nod to (a) That women are more prone to weak faith? or (b) maybe there aren't enough men left to 'take the lead'? Anyway, I thought it was culty and pretty cringeworthy.
There is no concept of a Trinity of coequals sharing the divine nature in the scriptures ,the scriptures are quite clear that the God and Father of Jesus is the supreme divinity Luke Ch.1:32NIV"He will be great and will be called the Son of the MOST HIGH. The LORD God will give him the throne of his father David," John Ch.10:29NIV"My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than ALL c ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. " The God and Father of Jesus christ is the MOST HIGH God and thus is co equal to no one. John Ch.8:54NIV"Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. " According to Jesus his God and Father is the one and only God of Israel . By common consent the God and Father of Jesus is not triune. Therefore the one and only God of Israel is not triune. John ch.20:17NIV"Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ”" The God and Father of Jesus is not triune by common consent . The God and Father of Jesus is also the God and Father of Jesus' disciples . Therefore the God and Father of Jesus' disciples is not triune. Matthew Ch.24:36NIV"“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, f but ONLY the Father. " ONLY the God and Father of Jesus Christ is omniscient thus only the God and Father of Jesus Christ is the MOST HIGH God. Roman's Ch.1:9EHV"To be sure, (the)God, whom I serve with my spirit by proclaiming the gospel of his Son, is my witness to how constantly I make mention of you. In all my prayers, " Roman's Ch.3:30NIV"since there is only ONE(Grk.eis) God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. " Paul was an actual monotheist and thus rendered exclusive sacred service to one most high God. Whom he clearly identifies as the God and Father of Jesus Christ. Matthew Ch.16:16NKJV"Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”" not merely the living Father but the living God to whom all believers owe EXCLUSIVE Devotion/Sacred Service. Malachi Ch.2:10NIV"Do we not all have one Father b ? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?" The God and Father of Jesus Christ is the only true God.
Why is it that every time I challenge you people to demonstrate this supposed superior understanding of the scriptures you imply that you possess you keep dodging?
@@ExJWCaleb well I specifically challenged you to demonstrate your supposedly superior understanding of the scriptures, with no response to that challenge,
@@ExJWCaleb well you implied it when you suggested that the governing body's teachings are not in harmony with scriptures the only way you could know better than me whether the scriptures confirm or not the GB's teaching is to have a better understanding of said scriptures.
Yes, for example, the governing body teaches that they are God's channel and that following what they say is following what Jehovah says. That is nowhere in the Bible. I don't have a superior understanding on it, I've simply read the book.
Watchtower: "We recognize that Jehovah provides spiritual food and direction through this body or men." Also Watchtower: "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters and organizational direction." w2017 Feb. p.26 "Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food." w17 Feb p.26, par. 12 study edition
I am the only member of my family in the truth ,my family despise the brothers and would celebrate my leaving the faith your.narrstive fails with me, we have endured actual violence for steadfastly adhering to our faith so the idea that the kind of imaginary violence that you are allufing to ,being left alone,would deter anyone from acting on sincere convictions seems odd to us.
@@ExJWCaleb it has everything to do with our interchange you seem to imply that it is only the terror of being left alone that keeps us practicing our faith, that is nonsense there is no eternal conscious torment in our religion, no matter what I do JEHOVAH Will never subject me to perpetual suffering,and I have no family in the truth to worry about losing.
@@ExJWCaleb yes you did stop lying, why bring up disfellowshiping at all in the context of rights, leaving some one alone can never hinder them from practicing any rights
Because you're told who to shun and you need to obey that. That goes against your right to choose. Shunning people who leave also goes against freedom of religion. You said JWs don't take away rights. You were wrong.
I understand you have your disagreements with this organization. But don't you think cracking on the intro is a little too much effort on your part? The information that they're putting out should be your focus.
Simple way to resolve this: create your own RUclips channel and focus on WHATEVER you want to focus on. He has a reason for doing things a certain way, his way because IT'S HIS CHANNEL! LOL
@@soskeepingitreal9401 I'm saying that the intro into the broadcast isn't as important as the other information that was brought to the forefront. That is all.
@tgreen1862 I Don't need to read your comment again. I think me and everyone else saw exactly what you said and intended to say but ty and peace be with you as well.✌🏾
This is why withdraw companionship from you people ,you are lying hypocrites,the brother never said that the GB are equal to JEHOVAH,We are cessationists we do not believe in modern day prophets, it is the BIBLE that urges to obey those JEHOVAH Has raised as exemplars not the GB as you lyingly suggest. Hebrews ch.13:17NKJV"Obey those who [e]rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you." In JW theology no one is equal to JEHOVAH not even Jesus,He is utterly supreme . JWs are the articulation you will never go into a JW home and see portraits of prominent teachers on the walls none of our campuses have buildings name after the society's founders or any monuments to them,our literature has none of the author's names or photos,hero worship is utterly alien to JW culture,the lies of our self-styled betters notwithstanding.
Did gage fleegle say you obey Jehovah by obeying the governing body or no? You have the obligation to vote, given to you by the ones who rule over you, do you submit to their authority?
@@ExJWCaleb the Bible says Hebrews ch.13:17NKJV"Obey those who [e]rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you." And the verse is clearly speaking of those concerned with the welfare of our SOULS not secular rulers,so authorities within the church.
So you should obey them even when they tell you to go beyond or against the Bible? Because they told you not to vote when the bible is silent about it. Should you be obedient if the GB asks you to do something against the Bible?
@@ExJWCaleb no my personal study of the Bible confirms our essential beliefs if you or any of your associates think you know the Bible better than Me I'll be more than happy to put that claim to the test.
This has been a weird conversation to have with someone claiming to have grown up as a JW you don't sound like you have a clue about the way our religion works,we don't have altar calls where emotional work up members of the audience just come forward and get baptized you have to study the essentials of our faith and then you have to demonstrate a determination to put these into practice ,you have to live as a JW and demonstrate that your dedication is not such in name alone before even being considered for baptism
And neither are the governing bowel! They were first CEO'S of a publishing company and now they are real estate tycoons!! Not experts or "scholars" of anything just infamous affinity SCAMMERS no different than Bernie Madoff, soon to get what's coming to them! What have your human gods done for you lately, in any practical way?🤔
If you said to any GB member; "Could you describe God-Jehovah-to me as if he was a person here on earth?" they'd ALL describe themselves !
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Anything but Jesus lol
Absolutely 💯%
Real state business using the LORDS NAME IN VAIN .
They forget that Jehovah never said to trust in a human. As a matter of fact, he said not to. "Do NOT put your trust in princes or in mortal man" Ps 146:3. The gb admits it's not infallible, get's things wrong and makes mistakes, but will never apologize".
Romans 13:1-4, 6 ASV
[1] Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God; and the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Therefore he that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that withstand shall receive to themselves judgment. [3] For rulers are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. And wouldest thou have no fear of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise from the same:
[4] It is God’s servant given for your benefit. But if you do what’s wrong, be afraid because it doesn’t have weapons to enforce the law for nothing. It is God’s servant put in place to carry out his punishment on those who do what is wrong.
[6] You should also pay taxes for the same reason, because the authorities are God’s assistants, concerned with this very thing.
bible.com/bible/12/rom.13.1-6.ASV
I remembered back in the day how the GB was totally against their followers using social media and RUclips. Technology always trumps 😂
I remember my JW brother asking why I was watching "apostate" content. I told him I was trying to find videos of people talking about why they joined JWs, and couldn't find anything haha. I asked why they don't use youtube to try to reach people as it's the most popular video platform, but they're pretty confident about the website apparently. He tries to tell me the NWT is widely supported by scholars. Can't find any one supporting it outside the cult.
the WWW world wide web, a web that can easliy entangle , its amazing they placed spirtual food on this worldly platform instead of providing physical bible and publications
@@Masi.Capone exactly!
@@Masi.Capone
*"the NWT is widely supported by scholars."*
This is a common JW claim. They believe it because WT tells them this, but they never check it out themselves to learn it's NOT TRUE.
@@adamantiumbullet9215on their website they list about 10 so-called " scholars". In almost every single case the person has no training in the original languages, no linguistics or exegetical background and their qualifications have nothing to do with biblical languages. On the other hand 99% of the greatest greek and Hebrew scholars laugh at the NWT.
7:17 is not a prophecy; it’s a parable, a story that Jesus was giving. If you look at Luke 12:41, Peter asks, ‘Jesus, can you give that illustration again?’ If it were a prophecy, it would have been stated as such. It’s an illustration. And let’s remember the governing body isn’t infallible nor inspired
So much for them reading things in context 🤨
If Jehovah's witness do not listen to "apostates" and have a shield to protect them, why do they constantly need to hear about obeying Jehovah?
This cult is so full of itself.
Isaiah 8:10, 2thimoty 3:7-9, 2Peter 2:1-3.
@@vusimngomezulu2500
Hey visuetc. why are you still alive, not enough patriots in the USA (I’m guessing that’s where you reside)?
This cult of crap is full of shyte!
@@greyberet1 Psalms 37:20,Galatians 6:7.
@@vusimngomezulu2500
Hey visuetc. go f**k a snake 😂!
The ability to revise history, lie about certain teachings, & gaslight its members is quite astonishing.
I love how they dismiss the history of wars, famine, injustice, earthquakes, etc. well b4 1914. I also appreciate how they tend to add words, subtly, into scriptures to make it appear modern day is a fulfillment while telling its members how & what they see and/or feel.
Can never get my head around all good JW are just waiting for the world to end. So the rest of us sinners get what is coming to us! If that is not creepy not sure what is
It's a bit like planning your funeral and last will and testament from the age of five and ignoring all else for 65-70 years but your anticipated death.
Back in the seventies, there was a JW family with three little boys, they were friends with my brothers.
After field service on Saturday, they would drive around town and go "house shopping" for the houses they would live in after "Armageddon."
Very sad.
@@mattmurdock2868 Yup, I remember JW's doing that when I was in, and this was not long ago.
they are waiting while the world is living
@astridmiller7938
Moreover, all of Christendom is waiting and watching for the return of Christ, our blessed hope. Witnesses are waiting and watching for the coming of "Armageddon."
55 years later still no Armageddon ! Pathetic ... nit picking about beards ties slacks jackets
Back in the day there was a tele-church called "watching the world". This intro reminds me of that except back then jws used to talk sh#to about that church
Watching the Workd was the Awake articles feature where it would do a mini round up of news around the world also
😂😂😂😂
I wish I could wake my family up. But it’s so hard. They do a good job brainwashing.
It's still possible. My family never thought I would leave but here I am😊❤
Watchtower: "As a result of Christ's rule, the knowledge of Jehovah is abundant and overflowing."
Also Watchtower: "But the fact is that we will not be able to share the good news with each individual on earth before the end comes." May 2024 study edition of the Watchtower p.10, par.7
"every trial we've been through, we can see how Jehovah has helped us." Right, let's just forget the most recent court cases, the ARC, the NZRC and so on and so forth.
Yes.
Australia Royal Commission was the Way the Almighty GOD YHVH and his son Crist Jesus are bringing justice to victims of CSA..
By exposing GB before the entire world 🌎..
And what about all the ones that did die or suffer. The speaker omits that fact. I guess Jehovah didn’t sustain them.
"Jehovah has sustained those who are still alive."
LOL
A Perfect Analysis 👍🏼
With the statement trust even if it don't sounds reasonable they open the door for new business plan also with real estate
Yeah I see what you mean about the intro, the old one follows the queues of the music and is dynamic. This new one is pretty flat.
False prophets preaching a false gospel. The kings of deceivers
great video!
Reminds me of the intro to the show Praise the Lord on the Trinity Broadcasting Network TBN, just with different music 🥳 Just different flavors of weird religion I guess 🤪
hi!!!! big fan
Thanks ❤
10 years and no Armageddon 😅
145 years and no Armageddon.
Wayyyy longer than 10yrs!!! Armageddon was supposed to come when I was 3 in 1975. I am now going on 52!! The cult members who recruited my mother was waiting for Armageddon also which was FORTY NINE yrs ago and they had been in the cult long before they recruited/hijacked her! They're both dead now & my mother is almost 70 still running on the cult treadmill & getting nowhere but to the grave real fast!! Smfh
Its giving United Nations blue
0:10 OH F*CK IM OOOLLLLLLLLDDDDD!!!!!!!!!
trust me bro, what could go wrong?
There is something phony and fake about the way the men talk on JWB.
After listening to that, I'm about ready for a nice refreshing kool-aid and a long nap.
The designer of the original intro probably defected or was excommunicated so they ‘had’ to change.
A recurring phrase used by the Jehovah's Witnesses go on about "The faithful and discreet slave".
Don't they know that slavery is illegal across most of the world? Perhaps why they want their slaves to be "discreet" - so nobody on the outside knows who the enslaved are...?
Looks like Proverbs 22:3 is no longer in the new world translation
Yes Jehovah choose these men who are money making false prophet apostates who he hates and offers no redemption through Jesus's sacrifice as Revelation 20:10 says ..
10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Why would anyone put their trust and faith toward men who are rebellious and disrespectful to Jesus as he said no one knows of the time not even he. ?????
The top men of the Watchtower Corporation have been false prophet apostates since the late 1800's. The bible even warns about false prophets and says to not listen to them. 😳
7.11 What's the difference between giving up and giving out? I'm not an American, so I don't understand the fine distinction
I've literally never heard the phrase give out. Probably just making stuff up again.
*** w17 February p. 26 par. 12 Who Is Leading God’s People Today? ***
The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.
Seriously? ... A woman holding a shield against arrows? ... Is this a not-so-subtle subconscious nod to (a) That women are more prone to weak faith? or (b) maybe there aren't enough men left to 'take the lead'?
Anyway, I thought it was culty and pretty cringeworthy.
Didn’t know now it’s still September.
Ok let's be honest, we knew this was coming from that demonic cult eventually, surprised it took so long.
We see, you see that we see. We are almost done? Talking about themself?
Obey the direction of the governing body in USA? - but YHVH says obey my son Yeshua ! You can't have two masters.
Nope sorry Jake and Caleb
"You see these things happening" should be when you drink water...
No. God sent His Son Jesus . Jesus saves. The real good news is about Jesus Christ.
This religion acts like they own God Jehovah.
There is no concept of a Trinity of coequals sharing the divine nature in the scriptures ,the scriptures are quite clear that the God and Father of Jesus is the supreme divinity
Luke Ch.1:32NIV"He will be great and will be called the Son of the MOST HIGH. The LORD God will give him the throne of his father David,"
John Ch.10:29NIV"My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than ALL c ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. "
The God and Father of Jesus christ is the MOST HIGH God and thus is co equal to no one.
John Ch.8:54NIV"Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. "
According to Jesus his God and Father is the one and only God of Israel . By common consent the God and Father of Jesus is not triune. Therefore the one and only God of Israel is not triune.
John ch.20:17NIV"Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ”"
The God and Father of Jesus is not triune by common consent . The God and Father of Jesus is also the God and Father of Jesus' disciples . Therefore the God and Father of Jesus' disciples is not triune.
Matthew Ch.24:36NIV"“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, f but ONLY the Father. "
ONLY the God and Father of Jesus Christ is omniscient thus only the God and Father of Jesus Christ is the MOST HIGH God.
Roman's Ch.1:9EHV"To be sure, (the)God, whom I serve with my spirit by proclaiming the gospel of his Son, is my witness to how constantly I make mention of you. In all my prayers, "
Roman's Ch.3:30NIV"since there is only ONE(Grk.eis) God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. "
Paul was an actual monotheist and thus rendered exclusive sacred service to one most high God. Whom he clearly identifies as the God and Father of Jesus Christ.
Matthew Ch.16:16NKJV"Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”" not merely the living Father but the living God to whom all believers owe EXCLUSIVE Devotion/Sacred Service.
Malachi Ch.2:10NIV"Do we not all have one Father b ? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?"
The God and Father of Jesus Christ is the only true God.
And there's even less evidence of the term or concept of "governing body"
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Why is it that every time I challenge you people to demonstrate this supposed superior understanding of the scriptures you imply that you possess you keep dodging?
Please be more specific.
@@ExJWCaleb well I specifically challenged you to demonstrate your supposedly superior understanding of the scriptures, with no response to that challenge,
What superior understanding of the scriptures? When did I say I have that? What do you expect me to do to demonstrate it?
@@ExJWCaleb well you implied it when you suggested that the governing body's teachings are not in harmony with scriptures the only way you could know better than me whether the scriptures confirm or not the GB's teaching is to have a better understanding of said scriptures.
Yes, for example, the governing body teaches that they are God's channel and that following what they say is following what Jehovah says. That is nowhere in the Bible. I don't have a superior understanding on it, I've simply read the book.
Lewis Ruth Thompson Dorothy Walker Michael
Watchtower:
"We recognize that Jehovah provides spiritual food and direction through this body or men."
Also Watchtower:
"The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters and organizational direction." w2017 Feb. p.26
"Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food." w17 Feb p.26, par. 12 study edition
you know your watchtowers...😄
I am the only member of my family in the truth ,my family despise the brothers and would celebrate my leaving the faith your.narrstive fails with me, we have endured actual violence for steadfastly adhering to our faith so the idea that the kind of imaginary violence that you are allufing to ,being left alone,would deter anyone from acting on sincere convictions seems odd to us.
What does that have to do with the video
@@ExJWCaleb it has everything to do with our interchange you seem to imply that it is only the terror of being left alone that keeps us practicing our faith, that is nonsense there is no eternal conscious torment in our religion, no matter what I do JEHOVAH Will never subject me to perpetual suffering,and I have no family in the truth to worry about losing.
@@aservantofJEHOVAH7849 no, I never implied that in our conversation or in any video. That sounds more like you're projecting if anything.
@@ExJWCaleb yes you did stop lying, why bring up disfellowshiping at all in the context of rights, leaving some one alone can never hinder them from practicing any rights
Because you're told who to shun and you need to obey that. That goes against your right to choose. Shunning people who leave also goes against freedom of religion. You said JWs don't take away rights. You were wrong.
I understand you have your disagreements with this organization. But don't you think cracking on the intro is a little too much effort on your part? The information that they're putting out should be your focus.
Simple way to resolve this: create your own RUclips channel and focus on WHATEVER you want to focus on. He has a reason for doing things a certain way, his way because IT'S HIS CHANNEL! LOL
@@soskeepingitreal9401 I'm saying that the intro into the broadcast isn't as important as the other information that was brought to the forefront. That is all.
@tgreen1862 But that's NOT what u said. What u actually said sounded a bit judgy, critical and condescending, that's all.🤷🏾♂️
@@soskeepingitreal9401 I know what I said and what I meant very clearly. Read my comments again. Thank you. Peace be with you.
@tgreen1862 I Don't need to read your comment again. I think me and everyone else saw exactly what you said and intended to say but ty and peace be with you as well.✌🏾
This folks is where all your hard earned Donatins go. On Totally unnecessary and bullshit screen productions.
Anyone see the new JW Country. Video? If you play it backwards, you get your childhood back, your field service time back and all your donations.
clever person you are
@@astridmiller7938 nah, just a 90s child
@@ChrisPyle still clever
This is why withdraw companionship from you people ,you are lying hypocrites,the brother never said that the GB are equal to JEHOVAH,We are cessationists we do not believe in modern day prophets, it is the BIBLE that urges to obey those JEHOVAH Has raised as exemplars not the GB as you lyingly suggest.
Hebrews ch.13:17NKJV"Obey those who [e]rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you."
In JW theology no one is equal to JEHOVAH not even Jesus,He is utterly supreme . JWs are the articulation you will never go into a JW home and see portraits of prominent teachers on the walls none of our campuses have buildings name after the society's founders or any monuments to them,our literature has none of the author's names or photos,hero worship is utterly alien to JW culture,the lies of our self-styled betters notwithstanding.
Did gage fleegle say you obey Jehovah by obeying the governing body or no? You have the obligation to vote, given to you by the ones who rule over you, do you submit to their authority?
@@ExJWCaleb the Bible says Hebrews ch.13:17NKJV"Obey those who [e]rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you."
And the verse is clearly speaking of those concerned with the welfare of our SOULS not secular rulers,so authorities within the church.
So you should obey them even when they tell you to go beyond or against the Bible? Because they told you not to vote when the bible is silent about it. Should you be obedient if the GB asks you to do something against the Bible?
@@ExJWCaleb no my personal study of the Bible confirms our essential beliefs if you or any of your associates think you know the Bible better than Me I'll be more than happy to put that claim to the test.
I asked a very simple question. If the GB asks you to do something that goes against the Bible, would you obey them?
This has been a weird conversation to have with someone claiming to have grown up as a JW you don't sound like you have a clue about the way our religion works,we don't have altar calls where emotional work up members of the audience just come forward and get baptized you have to study the essentials of our faith and then you have to demonstrate a determination to put these into practice ,you have to live as a JW and demonstrate that your dedication is not such in name alone before even being considered for baptism
Did I say JWs get baptized without a jw study?
This person isn't a Bible scholar, so why should we listen to him?
And neither are the governing bowel! They were first CEO'S of a publishing company and now they are real estate tycoons!! Not experts or "scholars" of anything just infamous affinity SCAMMERS no different than Bernie Madoff, soon to get what's coming to them! What have your human gods done for you lately, in any practical way?🤔
You sound like the same complaining person as them. Its pretty ugly
How?