Message to "Trad Bros" & "TFP Student Action" - I will defend myself from an authoritative regime.

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • Any Catholic Trad Bro suggesting we would be better off in an authoritative monarchy regime has led me to utilize my 2nd Amendment Right to bear arms and defend my freedom.
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    Whoever made the attempt to suggest I wanted to "unalive" by trying to post on my parish's Facebook webpage/alumni page, you should be aware my parish has a strong tradition of honoring veterans who served to protect our freedoms. We had a wonderful priest that serves as a naval intelligence officer... and parishioners and alumni that died protecting our country and its freedoms.
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  • @OrdinaryCatholic1
    @OrdinaryCatholic1  Месяц назад

    Whoever made the attempt to suggest I wanted to "unalive" by trying to post on my parish's Facebook webpage/alumni page, you should be aware my parish has a strong tradition of honoring veterans who served to protect our freedoms. We had a wonderful priest that serves as a naval intelligence officer... and parishioners and alumni that died protecting our country and its freedoms.

  • @Beatnik59
    @Beatnik59 Месяц назад

    I think student groups in general these days are rather extreme. The criteria for me to determine if these student groups are dangerous has less to do with the ideas, but the actions. Have these groups imposed their agendas on those who are unwilling? Have they sought to harm their political enemies? Do they break the law? Do they cause authorities to capitulate to their demands? Do they target private citizens for disagreeing with their politics, seeking to harm them in some way? Maybe I'm just too American but, for me, I'm not one to get so concerned with what people are thinking and writing. But once they start to do things that harm others in pursuit of their ideas, that's when I start to get concerned.

  • @unhomme1737
    @unhomme1737 Месяц назад +1

    So as a "catholic" you'll refuse a catholic monarch who will make people respected God's law and you'll fight against him to defend your "freedom" ?
    What kind of freedom are we talking about here ?

    • @OrdinaryCatholic1
      @OrdinaryCatholic1  Месяц назад +2

      Absolutely! We already have the Pope and the teachings of the Church. We don't even need a monarch. As Catholics we are to have hearts as big as the world as testimony to the love of Jesus. Maybe you don't have your heart in it to love others and do good. As Catholics we don't need to rely on a regime to love, we are perfectly capable of doing that with our free will.

    • @OrdinaryCatholic1
      @OrdinaryCatholic1  Месяц назад +1

      Bro - You didn't read the assignment as a Catholic. We can't actually make (force) anyone to have a relationship with Jesus. Ultimately individuals have to choose to love.

    • @unhomme1737
      @unhomme1737 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@OrdinaryCatholic1 The teachings of the Church, so the Tradition, will never change, as the Gospel.
      We do need, not necessarily a monarch, but a strong catholic leader, only catholicism can bring the whole Truth.
      As about our testimonies, of course we need to obey God's law, which is primarily to love each other.
      "As Catholics we don't need to rely on a regime to love, we are perfectly capable of doing that with our free will." That's protestantism.
      I know your intentions are good, but get radicalized and try to put all the blame on "trads", we are all in the same boat, and we are all sinking and afraid.
      Trust Jesus, love your brothers and sisters, even the trads... we are simply seeking solutions, but one thing is for sure, we need to pray more and love more.
      May God bless you.

    • @OrdinaryCatholic1
      @OrdinaryCatholic1  Месяц назад +1

      ​@@unhomme1737 You're perverting our Catholic faith. You are rejecting the Magisterium. You're more of a protestant who wants authoritative control than a Catholic. "Traditional Catholicism" is a form of protestantism.

    • @unhomme1737
      @unhomme1737 Месяц назад +1

      @@OrdinaryCatholic1 I don't see how I am rejecting the Magisterium but you seem to think you have all the answers, so please, enlighten me.

  • @constitutionman9026
    @constitutionman9026 Месяц назад

    A thought first on monarchy and TFP. While some TFP people may be sympathetic to monarchy, I do not believe all are. It's a fantastical idea to believe in it here in America, anyway. There is an error of fantasy in the belief in monarchy as something that is the perfect system of government ordained by God. If one looks at the OT and the institution of the monarchy of ancient Israel, one finds that God did it only very reluctantly, and that the prophet Nathan spoke to the people, telling them all that their king (in this case, Saul) would do to them, in terms of taking their property and all. God only agreed to it to placate the people. The result was predictable, with the majority of kings in the OT doing evil in the sight of the Lord.
    Also, those Traditional Catholics who believe in monarchy fail to see how it is a double-edged sword. Yes, monarchy did cause the conversion of whole countries in Europe to Christ. It also, in one fell swoop, caused the Catholic Church to be lost for a time in all of England, suppressed Catholicism in Ireland, and helped spread the Protestant Revolution through German princes who sided with Luther.
    Finally, who is to say that God does not ordain other forms of government at different times to fulfill His purposes? Some Traditionalists criticize the American Republic for various reasons. OK, well, what about the Roman Republic? What is the justification for opposing that (other than some individual issues in the Twelve Tables of the Roman Law)? If we did not have the Roman Republic, we would have not later had the Roman Empire. If we did not have the Roman Empire, Jesus would have never been crucified, would have never Resurrected, and we would not have had Christianity spread through Europe on the roads and ships that the Romans built.
    Now, that being said, you heard this from a Trad Catholic. A Trad Catholic who is sympathetic to the TFP.
    I also have a background in Social Science, which means government, economics, history, and related subjects. Let's talk fascism. How is it defined economically? Fascism is the control of the means of production and distribution without outright ownership, usually through government-corporate partnerships. So a lot of what you and society do not recognize as fascism is, economically speaking, fascism. For example, Obamacare is fascism. It is a system of government control over the health insurance industry while, through state-run market exchanges, sets up a system of cooperation with health insurance providers.
    The term fascism comes from the ancient Roman ceremonial battleaxe, the fasces, which is an axe surrounded by reeds. It was a symbol of Roman, and later Italian, strength. Mussolini's Fascist Party was an outgrowth of the Italian Socialist Party. A lot of it's manifesto reads like the Democratic Party platform. There is support for old age pensions, an eight hour workday, a minimum wage, "progressive" taxation, universal suffrage (including voting rights for women), and government involvement, through national councils, in labor, transporation, communication, and "social hygiene".
    In other words, fascism is the kissing cousin of socialism and belongs on the political left, it's militarism and nationalism notwithstanding. On a true political spectrum, government goes from 100% control (on the far left, where Communism, Nazism, socialism, and fascism are), to 0% on the far right (where anarchy is). What is in the middle is limited government, best found in a constitutional republic (NOT a democracy, but that is a different story).
    This is a much more logical, reasonable, and simpler take on different forms of government, rather than the mess that is commonly used. It is simply reasonable to state that economic control of a society by government leads to political control. If a government does not have significant control over an economy, if most of that is left to private ownership, and the government merely acts as referee, then it is less likely to be dictatorial.
    Now, on a personal note, in regards to a previous video you had on not watching TFP videos, which I had responded to, but for which further comments are now on hold, why should I contact your cardinal to complain about you? Your expectation of me doing that comes from exactly the kind of leftist thinking that that is what should be done. No, I am a Traditional Catholic and a free market thinker. I believe in freedom. I believe in people having the freedom to put out their own views, as long as they are not calling for criminal or other illegal acts to be done. Reporting people is the thing leftists do.
    About Jesus being carried out on a luggage cart, why didn't I stop it by going to the local bishop? Well, it's a little hard to do that when I am in their weird, New Agey quiet room and, suddenly, they are carting out Jesus right before my eyes. Nothing to do in that moment but film and send it to TFP.
    Ummm...and just one more thing. Like I said, the idea of having a monarchy here in the U.S. is a fantasy (although returning to being a constitutional republic seems to be also an increasing impossibility with our descent into madness and socialism). But, in all brutal honesty (how shall I say this), you don't exactly project a Rambo image. 😂😂😂

    • @OrdinaryCatholic1
      @OrdinaryCatholic1  Месяц назад

      @@constitutionman9026 All I have is a "marshmallow musket" my kids used during a reenactment of the Battle at Concord/Lexington while in Cub Scouts. Yeah, no Rambo here.

    • @OrdinaryCatholic1
      @OrdinaryCatholic1  Месяц назад

      I made a video inspired by this comment, which includes the marshmallow musket. ruclips.net/video/NL94z1mbyHE/видео.htmlsi=7da7GI17p4WR5Cf8

  • @CMaj1506
    @CMaj1506 Месяц назад

    Oh dear! I don’t understand whether this is serious or not. Is this sarcasm? Freedom is only found in our Lord. Not in yourself. Our Lord is the real King! As a true Catholic, you submit to him and his will, as He has authority over every aspect of our lives.

    • @OrdinaryCatholic1
      @OrdinaryCatholic1  Месяц назад

      Rewatch the video... I never said anything contradictory to the teachings of Catholicism and free will.

  • @OrdinaryCatholic1
    @OrdinaryCatholic1  Месяц назад

    Any Catholic Trad Bro suggesting we would be better off in an authoritative monarchy regime has led me to utilize my 2nd Amendment Right to bear arms and defend my freedom. ruclips.net/video/FUBvUVOpS30/видео.htmlsi=OXT1oJV3pXBPM_O-