Before I switched to a custom loop I had Arctic eSports 34 Duo on a 12700k and while the BioniX P12 fans are great, the heatsink itself wasn't very good. I transferred to the Arctic 34 Duo heatsink to an older build and decide to take a chance on the PA120 (SE edition though, which has even slightly smaller heatsink than non-SE), and the temps were sooo much better, I could finally overclock the 12700k a bit. I did however keep the Bionix P12 on the Thermalright cooler because they're better but the heatsink itself is very good for such a budget cooler! I'm assembling my custom water loop now but if I ever would need to go air I'd probably go straight to one of the cheap costing Thermalright coolers.
Hello Ben, welcome to my channel, thank you for the feedback. this is also the reason why I am revisiting some budget range Air Cooler. You are absolutely right. It's mind blowing how well the heatsink are for Thermalright. I am impress with this air cooler, it looks super sleek and the temperature is extremely good when I replace these default fans to the Gentle Typhoon. once again thank you for visiting and to leave your valuable feedback, greatly appreciated it.
@@KleoYan I got the PA120 SE on discount for $37.5, it's almost all fully black, and the heatsink itself is just a tiny bit smaller, so in theory the PA120 (not SE) should be theoretically better and subjectively slightly better looking since it's fully black. The stock fans though are alright but nothing exceptional, I had better temps when replacing them with the regular Arctic P12s, and then replaced the Arctic P12s with the Arctic BioniX P12s which improved the temps even a bit more. If those Thermalright 120mm CPU coolers came with excellent budget fans like the Arctic P12s it would be such a killer combo, insane value! P.S. thanks for the welcome but I already subscribed like almost a year ago lul :P
@@Ben-ld1qi oh.. ok sorry didnt know hahahah.. wow your PA120 SE definitely a steal.. wish I am able to purchase at that price too. Yup the Arctic P12 is another good fan.. infact for Arctic fans be it the P or F vaiant, they all perform extremely well. Thank you buddy for sharing your experience with me ^-^v
@@Ben-ld1qi hahaha... thank you buddy.. I am always curious .. influence by my dad, I started watching him at the age of 10 as I enjoyed watching what he does, example fixing window sliders, chaging bathroom or kitchen sink taps and lots more. He have taught me alot, which comes in handy, espeically fixing home stuff. Anyway am glad you enjoyed my content but most of my friends find my channel not appealing as I talk too much hahahah.
I was annoyed to hear GamersNexus announce in the US and having checked, here in AU too, that the Assassin Spirit has disappeared from the market, which is super disappointing seeing it was one of the best performing budget coolers in that price tier and Thermalright replaced the actual Amazon page with its updated model Assassin King which its more expensive replacement. I previously have had such good things to say about Thermalright, its LGA1700 bracket and many of its previous line and thermal pastes being excellent products but I don't like when businesses/sellers use deceptive conduct to sell newer products masquerading as previously well reviewed Amazon products by reusing Amazon links, it just doesn't sit well with me and i'd rather see them show end of line/out of stock.
Hi Tyson, wellcome back. I guess if there is a demand on an item but with low supply, prices will increase, this includes companies will want to make the most profit out of it. I mean in general, even for some people, they buy cheap and sell expensive. So ya I get what you mean..
4:20 Just out of curiosity, should I place some washers to protect the motherboard from the spacers? Arctic has a similar mount with their Sports 34 Duo cooler and they provide some sort washer stickers to place before you screw the spacers on top of the motherboard. Although my spacers are 1mm plastic sl I'm not sure if that would throw off the entire mounting system off balance lol.
Hello Logan, welcome back, I do not advise you to do so if it's not provided. the plastic standoff will not scratch your motherboard and if you place a washer. the retention pressure will be more as you screw down the heatsink block to the standoffs. It's better not to do that.
@@KleoYan gotcha! Thanks a lot :) I'm getting either this or the PA120 SE ARGB for my mother's PC (I'll ask which which she prefers)... So just wanted to be prepared. Anyway it's going to be a majoooor overkill since she's on i5 3470 with 4x4GB DDR3 1600 🤣🤣
Hi George, welcome to my channel. I yes it will cool a 7700X with ease and you can play with PBO2 settings to lower down temperature and to get better performance results.
This is push out hot air right ? The fan position you placed. Is it okay if i place the backside to blow air front and middle one to blow front as well of cpu case front side. (I mean to say same normal fan placement but from backside becoz of ram clearance same as yours?)
Hi Deep Regmi, welcome to my channel, yes that''s correct. it'will blow air out to the back (motherboard rear I/O) side and yes you can do the placement like I did.
Hello Gooda, welcome to my channel. You mean when you purchase this air cooler. It does not have the screws? If that so, get hold of where you purchased from and ask for it.
hello ramses cordova, welcome to my channel. you might be interested to see the temperature results. ruclips.net/p/PLEW-b-2vYDdMnBBLGyRrX4w0SmGCZjyEk click on best budget aircooler.
Do you know why the black one stopped being sold? For the 120 you can only buy the grey one. The black one only exists for the SE version which is a little ugly
Hi Koray yücel, welcome to my channel. I will not advise you to plug this cooler to your Zalman S2 case. I mean if you do try to fit, remember, if you force the side panel back in place, you might push the cooler and causing it to add additional pressure to your IHS (processor) area. Processors are sensative to additional pressure and might cause your system not able to boot, therefore please dont use this cooler in your chassis.
@@KleoYan Thnx for quick answer. In other hand, my existing cooler Zalman Optima II and its height 158mm, fit very well :) I can't be sure, which one is the correct dimensions. really awkward situation. I mean, case max cooler height is 156mm, my existing cooler is 158mm and this one 157mm. but I want this cooler in my brand new DDR5 system( z790 tomahawk - i7 14700K - DDR5 6400Mhz 64GB and 3070Ti) Do you have any suggest with the air cooling? but I have not room for a AIO. thnx again.
@@moanizm hmm.. this 7 pipe cooler is cheaper and it perform well www.thermalright.com/product/phantom-spirit-120-se/ the Phantom Spirit 120 SE from ThermalRight. The height is at 154mm tall.
Hi MUTALISKUS, welcome to my channel. I have not tried the ID-Cooling SE-207-XT BLACK, therefore not able to answer your question. I see what I can do. If I ever get hold of this cooler, I will let you know the results. Looking from their official website www.idcooling.com/Product/detail/id/235/name/SE-207-XT%20BLACK. I only can assume is a good cooler as it has 7 heat pipes, then again, that's my assumption.
@@MUTALISKUS I see, take your time to find out more. there might be more youtube videos or info about the AirCooler you wanted. or maybe this will help you to decide too. ruclips.net/video/d2rDgQtX1OM/видео.html
Hi asrul coin, welcome to my channel as for the bracket. You might need to search online or with your local store. For us here, we are able to purchased it at out local online shops.
hi Not your Dragon, welcome to my channel. which platform are you using? AMD or Intel. for AMD there is a default backplate bur for Intel, there is a back plate provided with this Aircooler.
@@firdausbhari Oh ok.. but do pardon me. not able to answer on SE. I see if my local distro have that and if they are able to loan it to me. I will do up a comparision.
@@henrikfox8960 hi and welcome to my channel, for clearance, you can view at timestamp 10:52 and I don’t really understand your question on “can I move the ventilator on the fleet side blowing at my rams”
@@henrikfox8960 oh ok, I get what you mean, if you see the structure of the heatsink at 10:53. both sides have equal clearance. if you reverse to blow air to your rams instead to the back. I believe it's the same dimension on how you fix this AirCooler on your motherboard. You can shift the fan clip up or down to give more clearance but you need to be mindful of the case height, so that it will not hit your case side glass panel.
@@KleoYan I disagree on the SE version being better, the only bright side of it is that the heatsink is slightly shorter (3mm) than the non-SE version because they removed 3 fins from the heatsink, other than that, it has different fans that don't have any vibration pads which causes them to vibrate. also the SE version lacks the heatsink covers, so aesthetically it's worse.
@@KleoYan No problem! and yeah, naming it "SE" is kinda misleading and people would think that it's an upgrade from the non-se but it's actually a downgrade in build quality and overall look.
Hello H K, welcome to my channel, it's Anodizing black on silver alumium surface, which is a thin layer of black coat.. not that thick. hope that answer your question.
Quick question, if you unscrew all 4 screws of the 2 brackets, will the backplate underneath the mobo fall off? Or is the backplate firmly attached to the back of the motherboard?
Hello Tom Rocket, welcome to my channel and thank you for the feedback. I might have a look at the air cooler which you have mentioned. Thank you again 👍
You sure you used/tighten/applied thermal paste and installation correct?... I have a 5800X and it's overclocked and this cooler beat my previous Fuma 2 by a mile, this cooler is the only one that is right behind Noctua's NH-D15 at 55% less cost. Have you tried installing it again?.. also, check fans speeds or if they are working at the speeds you're setting them up for. Here.. watch this: ruclips.net/video/HgGaEZjb5Ls/видео.html
@@zemi2750 hi, welcome to my channel, maybe am noob on mounting but I rather trust what I've tested with real time stats as I did numerous of test before I can conclude here ruclips.net/video/d2rDgQtX1OM/видео.html as compared to talk over a graph and I have given facts as why. thank you!
@@KleoYan I was telling the other dude that said his was giving him bad performance, not you.. You did great with the videos and mounting. Specially the part about installing the fan in the back if you have no clearance, I ran a few test myself and there's no difference in temps at all. Good Job! Kleo.
This is the best looking budget heatsink that fits my CPU. Thank you for the showcase!
Hi PerspectiveFlip, welcome to my channel and I am glad you like my content. All the best with your build too 😉
Excellent review!🤟👌👍 Provided important detials like height clearance! More reviews like this!
@@yulz_khepter hi and welcome to my channel. Thank you for your feedback. 👍👍👍
thank you.
Hi Macc Azarraga Ama, welcome to my channel and it’s my pleasure. All the best with your build too 😉
Before I switched to a custom loop I had Arctic eSports 34 Duo on a 12700k and while the BioniX P12 fans are great, the heatsink itself wasn't very good. I transferred to the Arctic 34 Duo heatsink to an older build and decide to take a chance on the PA120 (SE edition though, which has even slightly smaller heatsink than non-SE), and the temps were sooo much better, I could finally overclock the 12700k a bit. I did however keep the Bionix P12 on the Thermalright cooler because they're better but the heatsink itself is very good for such a budget cooler! I'm assembling my custom water loop now but if I ever would need to go air I'd probably go straight to one of the cheap costing Thermalright coolers.
Hello Ben, welcome to my channel, thank you for the feedback. this is also the reason why I am revisiting some budget range Air Cooler. You are absolutely right. It's mind blowing how well the heatsink are for Thermalright. I am impress with this air cooler, it looks super sleek and the temperature is extremely good when I replace these default fans to the Gentle Typhoon. once again thank you for visiting and to leave your valuable feedback, greatly appreciated it.
@@KleoYan I got the PA120 SE on discount for $37.5, it's almost all fully black, and the heatsink itself is just a tiny bit smaller, so in theory the PA120 (not SE) should be theoretically better and subjectively slightly better looking since it's fully black. The stock fans though are alright but nothing exceptional, I had better temps when replacing them with the regular Arctic P12s, and then replaced the Arctic P12s with the Arctic BioniX P12s which improved the temps even a bit more. If those Thermalright 120mm CPU coolers came with excellent budget fans like the Arctic P12s it would be such a killer combo, insane value! P.S. thanks for the welcome but I already subscribed like almost a year ago lul :P
@@Ben-ld1qi oh.. ok sorry didnt know hahahah.. wow your PA120 SE definitely a steal.. wish I am able to purchase at that price too. Yup the Arctic P12 is another good fan.. infact for Arctic fans be it the P or F vaiant, they all perform extremely well. Thank you buddy for sharing your experience with me ^-^v
@@KleoYan anyway I'm a big fan of your DIY skills :P love watching ur content
@@Ben-ld1qi hahaha... thank you buddy.. I am always curious .. influence by my dad, I started watching him at the age of 10 as I enjoyed watching what he does, example fixing window sliders, chaging bathroom or kitchen sink taps and lots more. He have taught me alot, which comes in handy, espeically fixing home stuff. Anyway am glad you enjoyed my content but most of my friends find my channel not appealing as I talk too much hahahah.
Great video. My fan clips were really hard to install.
Did you screw in the final 2 mounting screws all the way?
Hi stanleydesu, welcome to my channel. Normally I do screw in down till it touches the screw tip but not overtighten. I let the retension do the job.
thanks
Hi jesus grillasca, welcome to my channel. I am glad you like this content and all the best with your build too. 😉
That is a nice looking CPU cooler!
hello brandon wallace, welcome to my channel and yup.. this is one good looking cooler and it does perform well too.
this is very helpful tnk u sir👊🤟
Hello Hover Balajadia, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback. All the best with your build too 😉
I was annoyed to hear GamersNexus announce in the US and having checked, here in AU too, that the Assassin Spirit has disappeared from the market, which is super disappointing seeing it was one of the best performing budget coolers in that price tier and Thermalright replaced the actual Amazon page with its updated model Assassin King which its more expensive replacement. I previously have had such good things to say about Thermalright, its LGA1700 bracket and many of its previous line and thermal pastes being excellent products but I don't like when businesses/sellers use deceptive conduct to sell newer products masquerading as previously well reviewed Amazon products by reusing Amazon links, it just doesn't sit well with me and i'd rather see them show end of line/out of stock.
Hi Tyson, wellcome back. I guess if there is a demand on an item but with low supply, prices will increase, this includes companies will want to make the most profit out of it. I mean in general, even for some people, they buy cheap and sell expensive. So ya I get what you mean..
Hi, msi b550 gaming plus atx and this cooler
Enough space? Thanks
Hi Паша, welcome to my channel, yes enough space.
Do you think this woudl be good for i5 13600k or not enough?
Hi Direwoof, welcome to my channel. it's more than enough for a 13600K no issue. 😉
4:20 Just out of curiosity, should I place some washers to protect the motherboard from the spacers? Arctic has a similar mount with their Sports 34 Duo cooler and they provide some sort washer stickers to place before you screw the spacers on top of the motherboard.
Although my spacers are 1mm plastic sl I'm not sure if that would throw off the entire mounting system off balance lol.
Hello Logan, welcome back, I do not advise you to do so if it's not provided. the plastic standoff will not scratch your motherboard and if you place a washer. the retention pressure will be more as you screw down the heatsink block to the standoffs. It's better not to do that.
@@KleoYan gotcha! Thanks a lot :)
I'm getting either this or the PA120 SE ARGB for my mother's PC (I'll ask which which she prefers)... So just wanted to be prepared. Anyway it's going to be a majoooor overkill since she's on i5 3470 with 4x4GB DDR3 1600 🤣🤣
@@Logan-zo3lj I see. All the best buddy.
Good day! Can Peerless Assassin cool 7700x?
Hi George, welcome to my channel. I yes it will cool a 7700X with ease and you can play with PBO2 settings to lower down temperature and to get better performance results.
This is push out hot air right ? The fan position you placed. Is it okay if i place the backside to blow air front and middle one to blow front as well of cpu case front side. (I mean to say same normal fan placement but from backside becoz of ram clearance same as yours?)
Hi Deep Regmi, welcome to my channel, yes that''s correct. it'will blow air out to the back (motherboard rear I/O) side and yes you can do the placement like I did.
Does it give the same performance compare to your vs front ram side fan intall? Or it will have little decrease in performance sir?
Mounting the fan to the other side of the cooler instead of the RAM modules side affect the performance in any way? Thanks for the Review!
Hi Diego Steffaloo, welcome to my channel, nope there won’t be any side effect.
@@KleoYan thank you😎
@@DiegoSteffaloo you are most welcome. All the best with your build.
My backplate doesn't have any screws on it out of the box, I'm trying to install it on a b660m, any help?
Hello Gooda, welcome to my channel. You mean when you purchase this air cooler. It does not have the screws? If that so, get hold of where you purchased from and ask for it.
Nice Video!
hello ramses cordova, welcome to my channel. you might be interested to see the temperature results. ruclips.net/p/PLEW-b-2vYDdMnBBLGyRrX4w0SmGCZjyEk click on best budget aircooler.
Do you know why the black one stopped being sold? For the 120 you can only buy the grey one. The black one only exists for the SE version which is a little ugly
Hello Mangoo, welcome to my channel. This I am not aware, so sorry.
the SE version looks better than all the others.
@@RideRedRacer Nah it looks cheap an childish
@@sedraniM lmfao. childish... wow
@@RideRedRacer Well it has spikes! Looks like my belt 20 years ago, when i was 16 and thought that spikes are "rock n' roll"
my case Zalman S2 and, max cooler height is 156mm. but this cooler 157 mm. would be a trouble?
Hi Koray yücel, welcome to my channel. I will not advise you to plug this cooler to your Zalman S2 case. I mean if you do try to fit, remember, if you force the side panel back in place, you might push the cooler and causing it to add additional pressure to your IHS (processor) area. Processors are sensative to additional pressure and might cause your system not able to boot, therefore please dont use this cooler in your chassis.
@@KleoYan Thnx for quick answer. In other hand, my existing cooler Zalman Optima II and its height 158mm, fit very well :) I can't be sure, which one is the correct dimensions. really awkward situation. I mean, case max cooler height is 156mm, my existing cooler is 158mm and this one 157mm. but I want this cooler in my brand new DDR5 system( z790 tomahawk - i7 14700K - DDR5 6400Mhz 64GB and 3070Ti) Do you have any suggest with the air cooling? but I have not room for a AIO. thnx again.
@@moanizm hmm.. this 7 pipe cooler is cheaper and it perform well www.thermalright.com/product/phantom-spirit-120-se/ the Phantom Spirit 120 SE from ThermalRight. The height is at 154mm tall.
hi whats better Thermalright - Peerless Assassin 120mm Black or ID-Cooling SE-207-XT BLACK ?
Hi MUTALISKUS, welcome to my channel. I have not tried the ID-Cooling SE-207-XT BLACK, therefore not able to answer your question. I see what I can do. If I ever get hold of this cooler, I will let you know the results. Looking from their official website www.idcooling.com/Product/detail/id/235/name/SE-207-XT%20BLACK. I only can assume is a good cooler as it has 7 heat pipes, then again, that's my assumption.
@@KleoYan ordered Peerless Assassin 120
@@MUTALISKUS wow that’s fast, all the best with your build 😉
I continue to choose between ak 620 pa 120
@@MUTALISKUS I see, take your time to find out more. there might be more youtube videos or info about the AirCooler you wanted. or maybe this will help you to decide too. ruclips.net/video/d2rDgQtX1OM/видео.html
Where to buy the 12 gen socket ?
Hi asrul coin, welcome to my channel as for the bracket. You might need to search online or with your local store. For us here, we are able to purchased it at out local online shops.
Oh No. Does it support Intel 12th gen?
Hi Viva, if you purchase this Aircooler, check if they do provide the 1700 bracket. if not you will have to purchase additional 1700 bracket.
My backplate just has holes no screws built in them
hi Not your Dragon, welcome to my channel. which platform are you using? AMD or Intel. for AMD there is a default backplate bur for Intel, there is a back plate provided with this Aircooler.
@@KleoYan intel
@@notyourdragon_1839 if it's intel, have a look at this time stamp 01:50 | Intel package and mounting
Got any difference in terms of performance with PA120 SE?
Hello Firdaus Bhari, welcome to my channel, I do not have the SE therefore not able to tell you how good are they.
@@KleoYan been following your post in LYN. Learned a lot. Thanks for the effort of sharing with us.
@@firdausbhari Oh ok.. but do pardon me. not able to answer on SE. I see if my local distro have that and if they are able to loan it to me. I will do up a comparision.
how is the ram clearness and can I just move the ventilator on the left side blowing at my ram
@@henrikfox8960 hi and welcome to my channel, for clearance, you can view at timestamp 10:52 and I don’t really understand your question on “can I move the ventilator on the fleet side blowing at my rams”
@@KleoYan left side not fleet side reverce the ventikator blowing from side pannel
@@henrikfox8960 oh ok, I get what you mean, if you see the structure of the heatsink at 10:53. both sides have equal clearance. if you reverse to blow air to your rams instead to the back. I believe it's the same dimension on how you fix this AirCooler on your motherboard. You can shift the fan clip up or down to give more clearance but you need to be mindful of the case height, so that it will not hit your case side glass panel.
Why did u install fans at one radiator, shouldn't be better to put on each radiator?
Hi R D, welcome to my channel. I have yet to test the method you have mention, will try it out. By the way those are not radiators, they are heatsinks
@@KleoYan Ok, I just want to install mine at 13600 kf, but will put went it on each heatsink.
@@racimegacar I see. All the best with your build. 👍
@@KleoYan It's working :)
@@racimegacar ooo that’s good. How’s the temperature with the method you’ve told me?
Hi bro! How about this air cooler for nowadays? Is it still work good?
Hi Remi Chan, welcome to my channel. It still works but there is a SE version which is much better.
@@KleoYan I disagree on the SE version being better, the only bright side of it is that the heatsink is slightly shorter (3mm) than the non-SE version because they removed 3 fins from the heatsink, other than that, it has different fans that don't have any vibration pads which causes them to vibrate.
also the SE version lacks the heatsink covers, so aesthetically it's worse.
@@w0wn hi and welcome, I thought the SE have more heat pipes hmm maybe I see the wrong heatsink. Thanks for the heads up.
@@KleoYan No problem! and yeah, naming it "SE" is kinda misleading and people would think that it's an upgrade from the non-se but it's actually a downgrade in build quality and overall look.
@@w0wn Ok, now I see the issue with the SE and you are right. Thank you again.
is this black coated or real black material?
Hello H K, welcome to my channel, it's Anodizing black on silver alumium surface, which is a thin layer of black coat.. not that thick. hope that answer your question.
Quick question, if you unscrew all 4 screws of the 2 brackets, will the backplate underneath the mobo fall off? Or is the backplate firmly attached to the back of the motherboard?
Hello Mike Tse, welcome to my channel. The back plate will fall off. Best is to mount this heat sink when it's outside and on a flat surface mat.
I bought my unit from Amazon and it is a pile of shit. It gets beaten by single heatsink Arctic Freezer esports duo. Cooling my 5800X.
Hello Tom Rocket, welcome to my channel and thank you for the feedback. I might have a look at the air cooler which you have mentioned. Thank you again 👍
You sure you used/tighten/applied thermal paste and installation correct?... I have a 5800X and it's overclocked and this cooler beat my previous Fuma 2 by a mile, this cooler is the only one that is right behind Noctua's NH-D15 at 55% less cost. Have you tried installing it again?.. also, check fans speeds or if they are working at the speeds you're setting them up for. Here.. watch this: ruclips.net/video/HgGaEZjb5Ls/видео.html
@@zemi2750 hi, welcome to my channel, maybe am noob on mounting but I rather trust what I've tested with real time stats as I did numerous of test before I can conclude here ruclips.net/video/d2rDgQtX1OM/видео.html as compared to talk over a graph and I have given facts as why. thank you!
@@KleoYan I was telling the other dude that said his was giving him bad performance, not you.. You did great with the videos and mounting. Specially the part about installing the fan in the back if you have no clearance, I ran a few test myself and there's no difference in temps at all. Good Job! Kleo.
@@zemi2750 oops my bad sorry.