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Thermalright Phantom Spirit Review - Wrecking the Peerless Assassin

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  • Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
  • For many people the Peerless Assassin is the best CPU cooler right now for air cooling Ryzen or Intel processor. But Thermalright Phantom Spirit is a new heatsink that uses the Peerless Assassin as a baseline and then improves on it in almost every single way.
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    Phantom Spirit - geni.us/PS120SE
    Peerless Assassin PA120SE - geni.us/PA120SE
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    Phanteks D30 (Sponsor) - geni.us/PHANTE...
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    0:00 - Peerless Assassin Buyer's Remorse?
    1:03 - Sponsor Spot
    1:34 - Thermalright Phantom Spirit vs Peerless Assassin
    3:50 - More Heatpipes doesn't mean BETTER
    4:33 - Installation & Fan Specs
    5:20 - Fan Noise Detailed
    6:05 - A Peerless Assassin CORRECTION
    7:31 - Potential Thermalright Fan Problems?
    8:01 - Gaming Temperatures (No Limits)
    8:48 - 180W Temperatures & Clocks
    9:50 - 253W Temperatures & Clocks
    10:45 - Extreme Load Temperatures & Clocks
    11:36 - AMAZING Cooler, Possible Long hTerm Issues
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Комментарии • 628

  • @petripajala4871
    @petripajala4871 Год назад +994

    When nobody can beat thermalright peerless assassin in price-to-performance
    Thermalright: Fine I'll do it myself

    • @Sen-ki-
      @Sen-ki- Год назад +42

      I like that they are kind of their own competition, striving to do better

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Sen-ki-every company should be competing against themselves to avoid stagnation in the monopoly/duopoly.

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 11 месяцев назад +20

      i refuse to buy from anyone else anymore
      I never use a cpu so powerful that it need liquid cooling
      i only use thermalright, either the single fan assassin or peerless assassin
      unbeatable price to performance
      neck and neck with noctua cooler thats double the price

    • @irfannasim9092
      @irfannasim9092 11 месяцев назад

      @@tomtemple69 fr i love brands like thermalright and tecware coming out of nowhere and just producing good budget products
      they dont care about marketing and shit they just give us good products we give them money thats it

    • @dagameboy
      @dagameboy 9 месяцев назад +2

      Thermalright also does aio’s (;

  • @rockhaze
    @rockhaze 3 месяца назад +90

    The fact that Thermalright is selling these coolers for the price they are, just means that all the other companies that charge more have been bullshitting us for a very long time.

    • @hameed
      @hameed Месяц назад +14

      Not necessarily though. There’s no real way to know what sort of margins their competitors are dealing with.
      That said, thermalright is awesome and lighting a fire under every other company

    • @Scxe
      @Scxe 20 дней назад +1

      Operating at a loss to gain market share is a valid tactic.

    • @rockhaze
      @rockhaze 19 дней назад +3

      @@Scxe They have been around I think two decades now... kind of late in the game for that, don't you think?

    • @ImShubhamY
      @ImShubhamY 11 дней назад

      Companies like Noutua overspend on research and development, and add all of it to the product.

    • @Scxe
      @Scxe 11 дней назад

      @@rockhaze maybe. Could be that they don't have enough market share yet. Either way, I bought two of their coolers and am thus far satisfied.

  • @phrze
    @phrze Год назад +475

    Consumers are being spoiled with the amount of great budget cpu coolers Thermalright are cooking up :)

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  Год назад +88

      Agreed but the results also prove that we are certainly reaching a plateau on high end air cooling performance

    • @conyo985
      @conyo985 Год назад +3

      Me using a a 13 dollar cooler. Yes I agree.We are so spoiled.

    • @ChowHound1337
      @ChowHound1337 Год назад +23

      That's what happens when an OEM enters a market they supply coolers for

    • @RafitoOoO
      @RafitoOoO Год назад +1

      le them cook

    • @PREDATEURLT
      @PREDATEURLT Год назад +2

      @@HardwareCanucks Well people are saying it for 20 years.

  • @MADHIKER777
    @MADHIKER777 Год назад +35

    I think you nailed the concept that it's not the total number of pipes, but the number that lie directly above the CPU. Great observation. As a result, I purchased the Frost Spirit for the build I'm working on now.

    • @joshholmes1372
      @joshholmes1372 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@noir-13 this is a great point. I'd like to see the tests run on both Ryzen and intel to see if there was a difference.

  • @mihscr
    @mihscr Год назад +45

    To those who, like me, have been looking for the TR FS140 in the gaming chart (8:11): I believe that the green line (mis)labeled as SCYTHE FUMA 3 (right above the ASSASSIN III) is actually the TR Frost Spirit 140. The correct SCYTHE FUMA 3 line is the pink one right above the DEEPCOOL AK620.

    • @kuyax101
      @kuyax101 Месяц назад

      also at the end i think he was mentioning phantom spirit yet said frost spirit for the award(?)

  • @shinku2826
    @shinku2826 10 месяцев назад +32

    the performance is so good that even if you pretend it doesn't come with fans and buy your own, it's still better value than almost every other competitor's unit in the price range. that's nuts

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 8 месяцев назад +7

      It also comes with a full tube of thermal paste. Most coolers don't do that

  • @Cosmopavone
    @Cosmopavone Год назад +84

    I got the Phantom Spirit three months ago. Incredible cooler at a ridiculous price.

    • @T.Lspitz
      @T.Lspitz Год назад +1

      Did yours come with 2 fans or just 1?

    • @Cosmopavone
      @Cosmopavone Год назад +15

      @@T.Lspitz 2 fans, a syringe of heat paste and a pwm splitter cable. Paid 42 on amazon

    • @T.Lspitz
      @T.Lspitz Год назад

      @Cosmopavone weird. Mine came with a cable splitter and the thermal paste but only 1 fan. The fan was the tl-d12 model that has the cut corners, i assume for easier mounting to the heat-sink.

    • @Cosmopavone
      @Cosmopavone Год назад +15

      @@T.Lspitz No way man, the Phantom Spirit comes with two tl-c12 fan. If you found only one tl-d12 pro in the box it can only mean two things:
      1 you have a Silver Soul and not a Phantom Spirit
      or
      2 they made a mistake when boxing it

    • @T.Lspitz
      @T.Lspitz Год назад +4

      @Cosmopavone hmm🤔
      Now you have me second guessing myself lol.
      I do remember considering getting the silver soul, but I'm 99% sure i passed it up for the phantom spirit. I still have the box so I guess I'll find out when i get home. Hopefully, I'm not have a "special" moment publicly online lol

  • @flaggedowntown
    @flaggedowntown Год назад +46

    The fans could be easily replaced over time if they failed, the value is very much there for this brand. I installed a Peerless Assassin, & have The Phantom Spirit also. I thought the metal hardware of the original design was better than The SE version. There will always be room for improvement.

    • @BUDDAz1g
      @BUDDAz1g 7 месяцев назад

      Would you say the phantom spirit is better than the assassin? Is the evo the same performance just different color?

    • @GameslordXY
      @GameslordXY 4 месяца назад +1

      @BUDDAz1g
      Well the whole review was about Phantom Spirit Being better than Peerless Assasin.

  • @MRFITZINATOR1
    @MRFITZINATOR1 Год назад +103

    I would love to see these coolers benchmarked on a 7950x (non 3D) to see how the die being lower on the IHS changes cooler performance. It’s my understanding that more heat pipes would equal better performance in that case

    • @Electric_Doodie
      @Electric_Doodie Год назад +9

      I've tested the PA120 and PS120 (both non SE) with SYY 157 Thermalpaste on a 5800X3D with curve optimizer at -30 in Cinebench not too long ago. It didn't showed much difference then in this video (1,6° lower for PS120 after a few testing benchmarks).

    • @zbaltor9020
      @zbaltor9020 Год назад +6

      @@Electric_Doodie Phatom spirit fans are more quiet than Pearless Assasin

    • @ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829
      @ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 2 месяца назад

      Pretty sure that cpu is supposed to be at 95° lol

  • @skyjewel4861
    @skyjewel4861 Год назад +34

    I was recommended the Phantom Spirit SE by my local PC seller to cool my i7-13700KF. It’s a really great air cooler for the price. Great job Thermalright.

    • @luladrgn9155
      @luladrgn9155 11 месяцев назад +2

      is it enough? air for an i7 13th and K?

    • @skyjewel4861
      @skyjewel4861 10 месяцев назад

      @@luladrgn9155currently running my i7-13700KF at PL1 230W and PL2 limit of 210W (also using a Thermalright contact frame). Need to max fans (and my country is pretty warm at 30-33C) to cool the cpu but for the price i cannot expect more

    • @joshholmes1372
      @joshholmes1372 10 месяцев назад

      @@luladrgn9155 more than enough, unless you are really pushing some OC or have bad airflow in your case. He tested it on a 13900k in the video.

    • @kiam9941
      @kiam9941 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@luladrgn9155i mean if it can handle a 13900k, at 40€/$ bro I don't think it will have any issues

    • @aetherchannel7148
      @aetherchannel7148 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@luladrgn9155 the test in the video was done with an i9-13900k, of course its enough.

  • @sharkey9
    @sharkey9 Год назад +119

    The difference between the SE and the regular one is not only the top plate. The regular one has more fins, therefore it's also a tiny bit taller.

    • @shrekoc5570
      @shrekoc5570 11 месяцев назад +31

      The extra fins are decorative. You can see from the side that the decorative ones look slightly different from the real ones. It's so the heat pipes don't stick out from the top and it looks clean.

    • @xenkw0n
      @xenkw0n 9 месяцев назад +1

      And heavier.

    • @jdmfh47
      @jdmfh47 5 месяцев назад

      130mm vs 150

  • @riba2233
    @riba2233 Год назад +43

    You are doing a huge service to the community :)

  • @unknown_E
    @unknown_E Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for this video! I am building my first PC, and you helped me make another decision. Your video was concise and easy to understand. Most of the reviews I have looked at are confusing, but you made it easy to understand using statistics and explanations. Thanks!

  • @iiNNeX
    @iiNNeX Год назад +8

    I have a phantom spirit and have to say it's bloody awesome for the price. Easy to install and fans are surprisingly quiet even at max RPM.

  •  Год назад +9

    Just upgraded to the original PA 120 with grey top from the intel stock cooler(copper slug version) that came with my i7 4790K for 40€ from Amazon and have no regrets, instant 20ºC temp reduction during full load(60ºC down from 80ºC).

  • @PsychoStreak
    @PsychoStreak Год назад +7

    Still love how Thermalright was the the top end about 2 decades ago, sort of disappeared and now is back with a vengeance and causing this much havoc.

  • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
    @AdamSmith-gs2dv 8 месяцев назад +6

    I bought this for my 5800x3d and absolutely love it. So easy to install and it performs extremely well

    • @exebion9506
      @exebion9506 8 месяцев назад

      Good to hear. I'am considering to buy the phantom spirit for my new 5800x3d. What temperatures do you reach on full load?

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 7 месяцев назад

      @@exebion9506 Between 70-80C when running Cinebench

  • @_taho
    @_taho Год назад +11

    Why would I have buyer's remorse? Stagnation is the consumer's worst enemy.

  • @tubbaguts5813
    @tubbaguts5813 Год назад +4

    Just built a new rig with a Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB on a 7800X3D. Very happy with its performance so far. I'll definitely be watching those fans though.

    • @panzer3279
      @panzer3279 Год назад +2

      Just get two Noctua/be Quiet/Nidec GT fans if you want better performance and reliability. The heatsink itself is good and should last forever.

    • @T.Lspitz
      @T.Lspitz Год назад

      What model number fan came with yours?
      Also did it come with 1 or 2 fans?

    • @Alex904_
      @Alex904_ 11 месяцев назад

      temperatures?

  • @NemesisDestiny
    @NemesisDestiny Год назад +9

    Hadn't heard of this model (nor the Frost Spirit) until now! Good to have more budget options with excellent performance!

  • @vensroofcat6415
    @vensroofcat6415 Год назад +5

    Thermalright is making quite good CPU coolers and considering the price they are actually great. I got another less known for some budget system a few months back - Burst assassin and it didn't disappoint. Basically silent, compact, well made cooler at great price.

  • @NGreedia
    @NGreedia Год назад +33

    Would be interesting to see how Thermalright's AIOs perform as they are much better prices than the competition to see if they can be as good at liquid cooling vs the competition as they are for air cooling.

    • @CryptoJordanVR
      @CryptoJordanVR 10 месяцев назад +4

      From the reviews I've seen, and comments I've read about them, they all seem to be incredible value. With the budget Frozen Prism 360 being able to easily cool a 12900K.

  • @Apersonfarfaraway
    @Apersonfarfaraway Год назад +12

    Thermalright also makes AIOs now, a review on those would be pretty nice.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  Год назад +10

      We are in the process of setting up our AIO cooler testing methodology.

    • @LS-od9zp
      @LS-od9zp Год назад

      ​@@HardwareCanucksplease make it happen! Great job so far, thanks!

  • @NorthsideChamps16
    @NorthsideChamps16 8 месяцев назад +4

    What about the Phantom Spirit 120 EVO? It comes with new fans that are supposedly Noctua U12A quality.

  • @bottomtext5872
    @bottomtext5872 Год назад +9

    Bought one to replace my AMD stock cooler a little while ago. Between this and the PA120 was about 3 bucks CAD so I got no complaints running 45C constantly with my 5600.

    • @tomhsia4354
      @tomhsia4354 24 дня назад

      45C on a 5600x is mighty impressive considering my friend gets 40C on that CPU with a 240 AIO.
      I have a Dark Rock Pro 4 that costs as much as my friend's AIO and a Phantom Spirit combined and can only eye your temps with envy. It is silent, though.

  • @WELSHYTECH
    @WELSHYTECH Год назад +5

    I've reviewed both, and every cooler you just mentioned bang for your buck is the Phantom Spirit 120 se and I have also done a head2head between the Spirit and the Assassin there is actually a difference between both

  • @eracer1111
    @eracer1111 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have no remorse about buying the Peerless Assassin 120. I installed it two weeks ago, and it's working beautifully with my 5800X3D. In FS2020 @ 4K (water-cooled 240mm rad, 3090 Ti FTW) I'm seeing 52°C (CPU) and 62°C (GPU) with a very moderate fan profile. Yes, I did have to move the fan out a bit to clear my RAM. Doesn't seem to make a big enough difference to worry about. Visually? I don't even notice it.
    Good video. Previously subscribed. Thanks.

  • @McMaxW
    @McMaxW Год назад +9

    These fan-cooler reviews are becoming my favorite tech videos, great work as always!

  • @HiDopamine88
    @HiDopamine88 Год назад +4

    Thermalright is slowly gaining popularity in my country. Have 2 of them: axp90-47 and pa120 se. Price to performance is amazing!

  • @nuclearpcs2139
    @nuclearpcs2139 Год назад +9

    Man the TR ba 120 has 6 heatpipes 23 bucks atm, SAME cooler than the Ultra 120 extreme but with only one normal fan. My favorite has been the TR TA140 EX that is no longer avaliable and was around 30 bucks. The ta 140 EX has been the absolute best thermalright I have ever tried in temps. Haven`t tried the phantom spirit.

  • @matthiasmartin4355
    @matthiasmartin4355 Год назад +2

    Hiding the fact this is a sponsored review in the last paragraph of the RUclips video description is a very bad look for Hardware Canucks.
    Edit: Hardware Canucks edited their video description into sponsored by Phanteks. Previously it said it was sponsored by the cooler manufacturer.

    • @orfeous
      @orfeous Год назад

      What a fail :)

  • @Macho_Man_Randy_Savage
    @Macho_Man_Randy_Savage Год назад +21

    Just picked up a Peerless Assassin in white! After years of using an AIO I'm really starting to get pissed off with the idle pump whine, even on quiet. I upgrade AIOs every 2-3 years but recently I've tried 3 in the last 3 years to find one that's gonna be silent at idle but these pumps are driving me nuts now.

    • @kotztotz3530
      @kotztotz3530 Год назад +5

      The gap between air coolers and AIOs are so small nowadays that it's worth it to switch to air coolers. We can all thank Thermalright for this and making the switch really affordable too.

    • @Weneedaplague
      @Weneedaplague Год назад

      "I upgrade AIOs every 2-3 years" maybe just idk get a softtube loop? Fucking forehead move

    • @maozedowner5915
      @maozedowner5915 Год назад +6

      Unless you do productivity tasks all day everyday and you run CPUs with most amount of cores possible AIOs are not worth it
      Most people just buy it for the look. AIO don't benefit them at all

    • @kenobi639
      @kenobi639 Год назад +1

      Dual tower master race

    • @kotztotz3530
      @kotztotz3530 Год назад

      @@maozedowner5915 I totally agree with you

  • @evilleader1991
    @evilleader1991 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ok so I installed the cooler to my PC now and holy crap its so much better than the Noctua NH-D15...this little thing is a BEAST!

  • @Boorock70
    @Boorock70 Год назад +2

    U really did become a Brand on testing CPU Coolers... Gr8 work !

    • @ObakuZenCenter
      @ObakuZenCenter 10 месяцев назад

      Gamers Nexus are far more reliable and go into more depth.

  • @ILiketurtles68
    @ILiketurtles68 Год назад +3

    Good timing. I just bought Phantom Spirit 2 weeks ago.

  • @MrSmitheroons
    @MrSmitheroons Год назад +9

    I'm not surprised this is somewhat better than the Peerless Assassin, since it matches all the other reviewers. It's still a relief to see it confirmed on LGA1700, since most other testers were on AM4. Thank you for this!
    The fan thing is a little concerning, hopefully it won't become a major issue over time, but I can trust that your channel will let us know if you notice it.
    The aesthetic difference is real -- if you need a more refined looking cooler, the Peerless Assassin or Frost Spirit come in non-SE variants that look nicer.
    BTW: I think Thermalright are clearing out old stock, and new Frost Spirits (the V3?) support LGA1700, but older ones (pre-V3?) didn't, according to some Amazon reviews, so I would say do be careful.
    One last tiny thing: at 10:15 you said the "Frost Commander" when I think you meant to say "Frost Spirit" which is being highlighted on the graph. (I don't blame you, Thermalright has like a dozen relevant coolers on the market and the naming is kind of all over the place! It's hard to keep them straight myself, and I didn't have to say all their names dozens of times in a row on camera... Thanks again for the videos, the reviews, all the hard work!)

    • @butchdeadlift7551
      @butchdeadlift7551 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah I got the standard Peerless Assassin over the other models simply for aesthetics. I always hated the look of the copper nubs sticking up out of my old Hyper 212 Evo.

  • @jeiciaa8347
    @jeiciaa8347 Год назад +3

    thank you for reviewing more thermalright products 😀

  • @rustyshakelford1466
    @rustyshakelford1466 11 месяцев назад +4

    I think you should test both intel and AMD CPUs, because of the different hot-spots and potential for offset mounting. On modern CPUs you can't count on the hottest part of the die(s) being under the center of the IHS, so this will naturally favor some coolers on certain CPUs. FS-140 vs FC-140 is an easy example; I wonder if the FS only performs that well on certain intel CPUs and maybe the FC would perform better on AMD, because the heat-pipes cover a larger area or are more directly under the CCDs.

  • @Fezzy976
    @Fezzy976 Год назад +2

    I've had this cooler for a while now, I didn't know it wasn't avaliable in the US markets. Had it over here in the EU/UK for at least 6 months now.
    Its a great cooler, just wish they would release it in matt black.

  • @dgillies5420
    @dgillies5420 8 месяцев назад

    I upgraded my 5950x from the best _RGB_ single-tower cooler (ID Cooling SE-224-XT - NOT XTS) to the best _RGB_ double-tower cooler (Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE) and got an instant 5.1% improvement in cpubenchmark - from 45,200 to 47,500 - no changes required! Thanks Hardware Canucks! I'm sold on this great cooler!!

  • @EJSmith-dk3yg
    @EJSmith-dk3yg Год назад +2

    Mike, thanks for the info on the Edifier's.
    I bought a pair of the R1280Ts, love them !

  • @igoresque
    @igoresque Год назад +3

    happy that I decided to get one when I saw it after PA review and noticing that it’s cheaper with more heatpipes,felt like too good to be true deal, but it works perfectly

  • @evilleader1991
    @evilleader1991 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the recommendation, just ordered it and replacing my NH-D15 :).

  • @igavinwood
    @igavinwood Год назад +8

    Great coolers for new builds. I remember when the cooling options for high end CPUs was all AIO water cooling on review after review, now there are air coolers that do the job just as well.
    In the UK, Amazon (6 Aug 2023) have both the Phantom Spirit and Frost Spirit at the same price. £37.90 (incl 20% tax) that's approx $48 USD. I've not been able to check this in the USA.
    The PS120 is 4mm shorter and fits a NR200 csae. I think the FS140 will also fit the NR200 but only with the mesh panels. If anyone can confirm this I'd be grateful to know.

    • @tonyiommisg
      @tonyiommisg 11 месяцев назад

      Would like to know as well!

  • @gail_blue
    @gail_blue Год назад +4

    I would like to know how a Peerless Assassin performs with Noctua NF-P12s since that's what I'd replace them with.

  • @tendosingh5682
    @tendosingh5682 5 месяцев назад +1

    As for replacing fans no one said Noctua was the only option. ARTIC.

  • @SuperLeshina
    @SuperLeshina 11 месяцев назад +3

    I've recently put this cooler on a 5800x, switched from Thermalright's Macho rev. B (a behemoth of a cooler), and results are great!
    One thing that imoroved greatly but is not so obvious is my GPU temps. The macho was apparently so big that it was close to my Rx6800xt and it heated it up noticeably, so when I switched to the phantom spirit, my GPU temps dropped by 8-10 degrees!

    • @manoftherainshorts9075
      @manoftherainshorts9075 7 месяцев назад

      Oh wow. I have very similar story for mine. I've recently ordered both 5900X as an upgrade from 5600 (need those extra cores for reasons) and I considered switching from Thermalright Macho ABW. I was kinda underwhelmed how this big boy was actually performing (probably an outdated design) and found this gem as a replacement. I also use 6800XT so your build is very similar to mine.
      Looks my projections about it being significantly better are justified! Out of curiosity, how exactly did temperatures drop from using Macho?

    • @SuperLeshina
      @SuperLeshina 7 месяцев назад

      @@manoftherainshorts9075 Well, It either knocks off about 5-7 degrees on the CPU, or maintains the same temps (70 degrees, that being said I removed one exhaust rear fan on my case because of the bearing failing, couldn't yet buy a new one) under load while being noticeably more quiet. Also, the frequency doesn't drop at all. So, overall improvement!

    • @manoftherainshorts9075
      @manoftherainshorts9075 7 месяцев назад

      @@SuperLeshina so, 5-7 degrees less on CPU and 5-10 degrees less on GPU. Gotcha. Thanks for your answer!

  • @Cyrus10000
    @Cyrus10000 Год назад +2

    Like i said its a really good and cheap Cooler. Thanks for listen and testing it

  • @Condor1970
    @Condor1970 6 месяцев назад

    My daughter almost ruined her AMD Ryzen 5 with a 3 fan watercooler by a well known name brand. She learned quickly after a failed water pump, that water-cooling is really best for enthusiasts who want to do a lot of overclocking. Peerless Assassin now adorns her PC.
    If you need something to cool a CPU for reliable long term gaming use and office/school work without having to worry about failing pumps or leaks, then air cooling is always the way to go.

  • @neponyatnyi
    @neponyatnyi 7 месяцев назад

    Bought PS120 (non-SE) for a new system based in part on this review.
    14700k + TR contact frame + stock thermal paste + Fractal Torrent
    Constant full speed (cooler + case), 10-min Cinebench run, room temp warm (can't measure)
    253W maxed at 91C, average

  • @troystrauss3415
    @troystrauss3415 Год назад +1

    Replaced my Peerless Assassin with the Phantom Spirit about 2 weeks ago. Never used the stock fans on either; replaced with Silent Wings Pro 4. Idle temps are around 1 - 2 degrees cooler.

    • @nexii1479
      @nexii1479 Год назад

      How about noise?

    • @ObakuZenCenter
      @ObakuZenCenter 10 месяцев назад

      It's not worth the upgrade, as the difference isn't much at all.

  • @engerlandt
    @engerlandt Год назад +2

    Can you test the Deepcool AS500 plus?

  • @LordComdrGC
    @LordComdrGC Год назад +6

    I would be curious to see how different fans affect the performance of this cooler.

    • @FanPhys
      @FanPhys 8 месяцев назад

      There will likely be next to no difference in performance unless you ramp up the fan speed to >1000rpm, at which point it'll probably be too loud for most people. Modern air coolers are inclined to have the fins spaced quite far apart, so they work very well with weaker airflow.

  • @anmolagrawal5358
    @anmolagrawal5358 Год назад +1

    1:08 That sound effect made me turn and check the source

  • @boydsterling3193
    @boydsterling3193 7 месяцев назад

    I ordered the PA120SE ARGB for £30 before watching many reviews - I couldn’t find a non-SE with the ARGB, and the PS120 RGB was 30% more expensive, so I do now feel a lot better about my purchase watching this!

  • @gladiumcaeli
    @gladiumcaeli Год назад +2

    Are you willing to do a test with different fans for the Peerless Assassin? Like Noctua NF-A12, P12 Max, Phanteks T30 , etc

  • @madguitarist
    @madguitarist Год назад +3

    Concern over fan longevity is a pretty minor issue. Just buy new fans and swap them out. At $16-18 CAD for a 3-pack of TR 120mm ARGB fans, it's a pretty simple proposition that still ends up being cheaper than a Noctua D15 cooler.

    • @manoftherainshorts9075
      @manoftherainshorts9075 7 месяцев назад +2

      When these fail, I would probably buy Arctic Cooling solutions, their Value Pack is very impressive in price to performance department.

  • @MJ-kun17
    @MJ-kun17 Год назад +2

    having the PA120 is a win, great video

  • @bothellkenmore
    @bothellkenmore Год назад +2

    I like the idea that you can build a 7800X3D/ X670E with this cooler today and maybe in 4 years drop whatever 9000X3D chip in it, still use this cooler (possibly with 2 new fans) and ride into 2030.

  • @artpro5930
    @artpro5930 8 месяцев назад +1

    The Phantom Spirit buyers' remorse is nothing compared to my "be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4" remorse, which I got a month ago. It was a huge improvement over the stock AMD cooler, but then I watched the Hardware Canucks big comparison from almost a year ago and my heart sank. The Peerless Assasin crushed the be quiet! and for about $60 less.
    Naturally, I went and bought the Peerless Assasin. ... Then a few minutes later, in the middle of another Hardware Canucks video about the Phantom Spirit (not this one), I was on Amazon frantically cancelling my order.
    This evening, my new Phantom Spirit arrived and I can't wait to install it!
    Anyone want to buy a lightly used Dark Rock Pro 4? 🤣

  • @ScottGrammer
    @ScottGrammer 3 месяца назад

    Just bought a Phantom Spirit 120 for $38. It's friggin' amazing. I think it might even be as good as the NH-D15 in my main computer, which cost three times as much.

  • @fisher_price
    @fisher_price 7 месяцев назад +1

    I just got the phantom spirit 120 EVO. Wonder how that compares to non-evo

  • @techluvin7691
    @techluvin7691 Год назад +3

    What ever happened to the “frost spirit”? It was an awesome air cooler.

  • @zoty314
    @zoty314 Год назад +2

    1. "Whereas the coolers with more heatpipes like the Phantom Spirit, D15, Assassin III, Frost Commander..." The D15 has only 6, the FC 140 has only 5.
    2. "That means that Thermalright Frost Spirit gets are Damn Good Value Award." Not Frost Spirit but Phantom Spirit. Of course there are so many of them with similar names that I totally understand this mistake. :)

  • @TheMsdos25
    @TheMsdos25 10 месяцев назад +3

    What is the difference between the SE and non-SE versions? Does the SE have slightly fewer fins?

  • @tongoso
    @tongoso Год назад +1

    Thank you for those updated charts and sharing!

  • @ksouvenir5561
    @ksouvenir5561 Год назад +3

    I have that PS120SE on my computer ✅. But I have a feeling the no SE version is better quality. Unfortunately by the time I upgraded my tower. the standard version is not yet available .

    • @T.Lspitz
      @T.Lspitz Год назад

      What model number is the fan that came with yours? Did it come with 2 fans or just 1?

    • @ksouvenir5561
      @ksouvenir5561 Год назад

      @@T.Lspitz 2 fans included inside the box and is the newest revision fan from Thermalright.

    • @T.Lspitz
      @T.Lspitz Год назад

      @ksouvenir5561 interesting. Mine came with 1 fan and it looked a little different but still great quality.
      Do your fans have the corners cut?

    • @ksouvenir5561
      @ksouvenir5561 Год назад +1

      @@T.Lspitz No, round corner. You bought the wrong Phantom Spirit 120 buddy 💡

  • @cruzslns769
    @cruzslns769 7 месяцев назад +1

    The phantom spirit evo is out and looks way better can you do a video with it next?

  • @Azortharion
    @Azortharion Год назад +2

    Did an AI write your video description, or did you outsource them to India or something?

  • @dianaalyssa8726
    @dianaalyssa8726 10 месяцев назад +1

    I realized the other day, I actually have 2 x PA 120 SE in my rigs, when I probably should have purchased the PA120 but the names were super close. So many products derp but it's cooling just fine. Next time I will pay more attention when ordering.

    • @rarepika
      @rarepika 3 месяца назад

      How did you come to this conclusion? From what I've seen, performance is basically identical between the two.

  • @timk8869
    @timk8869 Год назад +2

    where can i find the list or tables with all the information? I dont mind watching all the vids, but just looking at a chart is far simpler when searching for information

  • @102728
    @102728 Год назад +1

    8:45 maybe get some higher accuracy on those numbers? .5C steps on 15 fans with a total 9.5C delta is kinda rough.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  Год назад +1

      Higher accuracy would be a falsehood since it would fall even further within our margin of error.

    • @102728
      @102728 Год назад

      @@HardwareCanucks Fair enough

  • @littlelandon4320
    @littlelandon4320 Год назад +1

    Been running the Thermalright PS for a few months with a Ryzen 5 5600X. Been amazing, got it for under $40 on amazon.

  • @thedigitallens
    @thedigitallens Год назад +1

    Its time for Noctua to step up. Thermalright & Deepcool are slowly capturing their market and offering better price to performance.

  • @InviableTrader
    @InviableTrader 5 месяцев назад

    Just got this cooler for 20 bucks at bargain hunt in my area and now am so happy I did.

  • @iyaramonk
    @iyaramonk Год назад +2

    Does Thermalright ship new brackets to old customers when new sockets come out like Noctua does?

    • @hughJ
      @hughJ Год назад

      Did for me for my Le Grand Macho. Had to pay $10 shipping or something.

  • @gianluca844
    @gianluca844 Год назад +2

    Hi, really enjoyed your video, love your work about CPU air coolers. Could you tell the ram clearance of this cooler? Can't find any info online

  • @oOMeowthOoPlushie
    @oOMeowthOoPlushie Год назад +1

    Apparently, I'm the only one here who use Thermalright Silver Soul 135 💀, I don't need double fan to double the noise and I won't have RAM clearance problem. Most importantly, it's matte white, has heatsink cap and the only TR heatsink without printing the brand name out. 😊

  • @ancientslav4863
    @ancientslav4863 Год назад +1

    After years, 4 PC builds, CPUs like Ryzen 5600x, 5800X3D (now) etc, Im still using the Arctic freezer 34 duo. But...they went from 33$ to 67$ in my country over the course of last 4 years. Covid, inflation etc have ruined us all.
    So Im glad sub 50$ coolers exist, tho, even over 50$ is good when you realize they almost cool as the 110$ noctua d15

  • @pawpotsRS
    @pawpotsRS 10 месяцев назад +2

    I'm going with the TR Frost Spirit 140.

  • @MDUBZ
    @MDUBZ 3 месяца назад +1

    My Peerless Assassin Inner Fan started squeaking after 6 months, had to replace it already.

  • @Lonestar_GER
    @Lonestar_GER Год назад +2

    Really impressed by the Frost Spirit 140 results especially considering its price.
    Should I expect any difference in performance between the normal, black or white version?
    I'm currently still using my trusted Macho rev B on a 12600kf but looking into upgrading my rig with a 13700k soon.

  • @mattelbe
    @mattelbe Год назад +2

    Would the peerless assassin have much change in temps with the arctic p12 max fans on instead?

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  Год назад +1

      That depends. Thermalright redesigned the heatsink profile to better fit the specs of THEIR fans. I'm sure the Max would benefit if you don't care about noise since it spins at much higher RPM

    • @megadeth8592
      @megadeth8592 Год назад

      ​@@HardwareCanucksscythe says the exact same thing about the kaze fans on the fuma 2 yet the p12s do lower temps a few degrees.

  • @placeholder3853
    @placeholder3853 Год назад

    The white Peerless Assassin looks so good in my white case, I'm glad they keep upping their game

  • @NaoKeysVT
    @NaoKeysVT 8 месяцев назад

    Im an Sff person but since switching to a 7700x its made me want to switch back to normal.
    Will def be picking this up once I do!

  • @Kokinkun
    @Kokinkun Год назад +1

    I watch all your air cooler videos even though I do custom loops on me and my wife's systems. Always a great comprehensive comparison! How do these dual tower units run with Ryzen CPUs since those tend to run much lower power than Intel CPUs? Curious how they perform whether it's 1 CCD (60-85W) or 2 CCDs (90-180W).

  • @denisnatera3633
    @denisnatera3633 11 месяцев назад

    As always superb review this is the best youtube channel on air coolers period

  • @wingcommanderbob8268
    @wingcommanderbob8268 Год назад +1

    Bloody good timing, I only bought one of these 3 days ago lmao

  • @falcon3169
    @falcon3169 Год назад +1

    Thermalright woke up and chose violence

  • @Kevin-he3ew
    @Kevin-he3ew Год назад +1

    How is Noctua being beat on that chart? Also how is deepcool ahead? Most other youtubers have it losing.
    Also you mislabel the green on the chart. You reference the Frost Spirit as the commander one time?

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  Год назад +1

      Because no one cares about testing on modern platforms.

  • @VanBurenPhilips
    @VanBurenPhilips Год назад +1

    Gotta wonder how Noctua are gonna compete with TR and Deepcool matching their best cooler for (less than?) half the price.

    • @Electric_Doodie
      @Electric_Doodie Год назад

      Question is, if they can compete. Looking at the Assassin IV from Deepcool, which isn't better then the Assassin III and only offers looks / clearance (if needed) ... Maybe Noctuas new one is just the same tier as the TR ones of the Assassin III/IV .. for the usual Noctuas Premium Pricing of course

  • @one2toomany
    @one2toomany Месяц назад

    I've run both on multiple machines. The PA was amazing enough. especially compared to the $115 competition. The PS one ups it, especially compared to the new $145 competition.

  • @soupwizard
    @soupwizard Год назад +2

    Thermalright is making great affordable coolers, but they're failing at building model brand names - they could be building valuable cooler names that consumers would look for, and just keep improving them. Like the Phantom Spirit could have been a Peerless Assassin V2.

    • @fisher_price
      @fisher_price 7 месяцев назад

      They’ve done it. There’s a phantom spirit 120 EVO. I got it in today, but there’s no benchmark video to be seen

  • @arcalas
    @arcalas Год назад +3

    i got the phantom spirit two weeks ago and i went from 70degrees to 40 while idle and 95 to 50 under load.

    • @megadeth8592
      @megadeth8592 Год назад +2

      What cpu

    • @JoaoPedro-ki7ct
      @JoaoPedro-ki7ct Год назад +1

      ​@@megadeth8592 I got the same question, those are interesting results

    • @arcalas
      @arcalas Год назад +1

      @@JoaoPedro-ki7ct i5 11600k. the old cooler was the noctua NH-L9i which was doing fine until things started to crash.

  • @sellbuybryett
    @sellbuybryett 7 месяцев назад

    I just bought a Peerless Assassin and did not like the high noise, so I returned it and purchased the Phantom Spirit and guess what? I have an annoying tick coming from one fan! I checked to see if anything was touching any fins, but it just appears to be a faulty fan. I put my Arctic cooling P12 fans on instead and this HSF is amazing.

  • @kavineshanuragavan7153
    @kavineshanuragavan7153 Год назад +2

    the pearless assain still works like brand new 6 months in, 0 buyers remorse, the only downside is I had to place the front fan on the back as my ram was to big and it didn't fit in the case , still same amount of fans and same volume of air moved, I would say its better as it ejects the hot air directly on to the back exhaust fan

  • @Specialist7
    @Specialist7 Год назад

    Ngl, I have a NH-U12A on my older rig and swear by it for being quiet and a performer, tried this out on my current build and its performing really well. Only gripe is the fan noise at certain speed has a bit of a buzz to it, had to set a static fan setting to like 40% and it has kept pretty cool. Aside from the fans, installation was pretty quick and straight forward and everything is laid out to pick whatever socket and didn't even have to read the manual lol, overall for the price and performance its one of the best bang for your buck and probably BIS for the NR200 itx case.

  • @NinjAsylum
    @NinjAsylum Год назад +1

    4:25 You're backwards here bud. 4 of 6 heatpipes on the Assassin and 5 of 7 heatpipes on the Phantom touch the CPU core. The Phantom wins here

  • @bomba76
    @bomba76 Год назад +2

    I’d love to see how these stack up to the high end aios, like the Galahad, Liquid Freezer and Nucleus.

    • @WELSHYTECH
      @WELSHYTECH Год назад +1

      I've actually done a head2head with the phantom vs a 240mm aio

    • @sirblebington
      @sirblebington Год назад

      @@WELSHYTECH you just had to make us watch your video huh lmao

  • @Rancid_Ninja
    @Rancid_Ninja 5 месяцев назад

    I didn't trust the fans and had extra from my build so I swapped them to Corsair elites and it's been a rock