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The coronation took place in the dragon pit, (as you figured out) that’s why Rhaenys was smiling when she was in the crowd. She was thinking “these idiots…” 🤣🤣
Rhaenys "I need to get to the Dragonpit." Erryk "They'll never let you get past the gate" Meanwhile, the Goldcloaks: "QUICK! EVERYONE INTO THE DRAGONPIT! Push into the gate like your getting on a train in Japan!"
Lmao right? As soon as she deliberately took her shoes off and put her feet on the table I could tell it was going to be weird. I've seen a few reactors now struggle to pick up on what was going on until he starts touching himself.
LOL! This was my exact thought so many times in this reaction. Dastardly intrigue is playing out everywhere and he was missing it and I genuinely said "he is too wholesome for this show". That's not a critique, it just is. To watch that whole Larys foot scene and think "maybe the Queen doesn't know" - that's a mind that doesn't naturally think in murky plots.
@@kk_33 I initially missed the art where he started touching himself so i had no idea what the significance of the feet were until i watch this reaction. I just thought she was tired of being in her shoes and stockings, but knew that it was odd that she'd be disrobing in front of him. Now it makes a bit more sense and clearly she knew what she was doing and what his reaction would be, otherwise why would she have done it at all?
@@kk_33 yea I thought it was a little odd at first but nothing extremely weird, like spartan said I thought she was just getting comfortable because they seemed like gossip girls getting ready to talk about drama and what not but then I realized... this dude has a foot fetish 💀
Actually Larys and allicents convo during her only fans moment, larys was talking about the white worm and her hand maiden. So the fire was set at the white worms quarters.
We only saw Meleys one time, briefly, when she was flying to King's Landing for the wedding of Laenor and Rhaenyra. Little tit-bit that they may or may not mention: Rhaenys is Meleys 2nd rider. Her 1st rider, was the mother of Viserys and Daemon. She took them each individually for a ride when they were babies.
Otto wanted Aegon without Alicent in the scene bc he wanted to convince Aegon that he needed to kill Rhaenyra. Alicent would obviously be against that.
They would get their asses kicked in if they tried that. The Velaryon fleet is bigger than the Greyjoys or Redwine fleets, and Rhaenyra has way too many dragons to make an assault on Dragonstone feasible.
I couldn’t stop laughing when Spartan said Alicent didn’t know while she had her feet all up in the table😭 Also the burning building was where we saw white worm standing last ep when Alicent’s servant met her.
Fun fact: Meleys ( Rhaeynys's dragon) also known as "The Red Queen" is the fastest dragon, she's even faster than Caraxes. Before Rhaenys she was ridden by Alyssa Targaryen, the mother of Viserys and Daemon.
I appreciate a lot how you guys read Aegon's character, a lot of reactors just put him in a box of "evil dude always wanted the crown" but it's very different from that
@@RRobespierre1794 I guess that depends on how you define it. He’s definitely sadistic and lacks compassion/empathy. If that’s not ‘evil’ how you understand it so be it
Paddy who plays Viserys actually said in an RUclips video I just watched this morning was he felt his character would have not received help on purpose because of him wife passing and of the guilt he felt so the line at his end when he says my love was improvised
@@Mic-Mak Nikki and Steven for sure, RTTV and YaBoyRoshi because of how they always find a way to make things laughable. The normies are good reactors but I personally wouldn’t search for their reactions.
I just have to say I laughed out loud when yall pointed out that Lord Caswell didn't get a fair trial.... such sweet summer children. Still watching but have you realized yet how the White Worm knew the king died?? Her informant, Talya, lit the candles in the window of the red keep as a signal. They've obviously been waiting for this moment!!
Not to be that guy but he kinda deserved to be killed. He swore to Aegon II in the morning and then betrayed him by afternoon. Man's treasoning all over the place.
As others have said, the coronation was held AT the dragon pit. The dragons are kept in caves underground. So that's where Rhaenys went and how Meleys came up from beneath them.
This is one of my favourite reactions to this episode just because you 2 were chearing for Alicent when she was advocating sparing Rhaenyra's and the Blacks' lives. Then not screaming at Rhaenys to kill the Greens. I admire the consistency. Other reactors are hypocrites.
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Larys isn't blackmailing her. It's more of a "payment" for the information she wants to know. He can't say that Alicent had him kill the Strong's without admitting that he is a kinslayer. That would hurt him more than it would hurt her.
I feel like Otto was particularly ruthless this episode because it was a race to get as much done as they could before word got to Rheanyra and her likely supporters
I love this...Pudgey spotting most of what's going on and Spartan my dude going completely south🤣🤣...at the end of the day you all balance each other out and we love it.
At the end, when Rhaenys' dragon roared...that was Rhaenys saying I could have killed you but I didn't. I think it was a message. I also think it fell on deaf ears. This was a great episode and reaction.
Aegons coronation was so fking cool, I loved the outfit and his sword (Blackfyre). I don’t really mind when they change things from the source material, but it’s a shame they didn’t include Ser Cristons Kingmaker speech at the small council.
There is a point to be made that the source material isn’t as accurate as some think, since it was written much later by a Maester who used rather unreliable sources in his account of these events. Which also makes it really cool since the events as laid out in the books and the series can exist side by side (to some extent)😊
@@superkoopatrooper4879 even when I imagine Kingslanding. I imagine constantinople obviously without the huge theodosian walls.I mean the targeyens vibe and even the vibe of Kingslanding
@@RamseyGarnaoui you do realize that this isn't the truth for grrm he probably doesn't even know and doesn't care so stop with these it was unreliable narrator in the books the show is what actually happened in the books
@@theonlyonewithgum1452 reading in between the lines or knowing how george is unfounded speculation and if you want to be naive and believe this bullshit then go ahead but stop spreading it around like fact
36:08 , You already saw Rhaenys Coming to the Wedding of Rhaenyra & Laenor on her Dragon MELEYS in Episode 5. Laenor was on SEASMOKE. 2) The Coronation happened in the DRAGON PIT. Rhaenys smirked because that's where she wanted to go to free her Dragon and the Crowd she was in was anyway being pushed by the Goldcloaks towards it. She got in without being noticed.
Yeah, whoever decided it was a good idea to have the Coronation above the dragon pit while a dragon rider is in town didn't really think that one through lol
@@flabbergaster1011 yeah, but you're missing my point. None of Alicent's children are going to do what Rhaneys did. It was pretty evident that Rhaenys was leaning towards Team Black. When the throne gets usurped it only takes 1 guard's loyalty to let her out, which is exactly what happened.
Great reaction! It's been really interesting seeing you both grow with these series and become acclimated to the style of writing/storytelling. It's definitely different from others.
I just want to say that Spartan and pudgey’s reactions sums up what I’ve noticed amongst other couples that react to the GOT’s universe, the women follow the story and the connections that the characters have with each other more closely and notice the small things going on more than the men, that isn’t saying that the men don’t care about the story or the connections it’s just they are more focused on the action and the big situations going on, so the women often have a better grasp of what’s going on and are able to predict what’s going to happen better than the men IMO
LMAO Spartan is so innocent, how could Alicent ignore that this dude is touching himself watching her feet, they are sitted 4 feet apart and she took her socks off for him XDD
I think Helaena's prophecy has multiple interpretations. Until the literal beast beneath the boards this episode, I interpreted it as saying there's some danger brewing just out of sight, a forecast of the events to come. It could refer to Viserys's tendency to cover up all the tensions and pretend that everything is alright when it's not. It could also refer to the network of spies under floors and in the walls, a caution against people like Mysaria and Larys.
My possible interpretations of the prophecy: Rhaenys crashing through the dragon pit at the end of the episode on the back of her dragon Meleys, the explosion killing innocent Kingslanding civilians simply for being there. The coming war and conflict. Or, Aegon's tyrannical kingship. I don't know why, but to me I got the strong impression that the prophecy referred to Aegon bringing the kingdom to ruin.
That scene certainly was a bit of a heel turn . . . I guess Alicent and Larys are sole mates. They certainly have a weird socks life, but hey, whatever floats their boot.
It's a shame that people give you flack for missing stuff, everyone is human and we're all here to enjoy your reaction with you so don't be hard on yourselves or take it too seriously. I guess sometimes people want you to have the best experience and not miss anything at all and sometimes come across overzealous. Personally I'm really enjoying the channel and the relationship between you guys, you each appreciate different aspects of the show and bounce off each other really well. Keep it up!
I don't think anyone is "giving them flack" they just are trying to explain things they are missing... Even Spartan said he doesn't mind and can laugh at himself for missing stuff it's not a big deal. Better to tell them what they miss rather than them be confused or out of the loop.
@@davidrichardson5482 Except they literally didn't from what I heard they were appreciative of the help. They just said sometimes they will miss stuff it's just something they, and the fans can laugh at and they will not pick up everything. Think you are making up your own narrative to feel like some kind of white knight. It's not that deep bro people want to help them by providing information they missed.
LOL @ Spartan this episode. Thinking Alicent is not aware of the foot fetish in that scene. Also, thinking Otto would personally go and burn someone's house down 😂😂
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i'm sure a lot of us are very careful not to spoil, it would be nice if the reactors did the same or at least cut the spoilers during the edit. I expect spoilers for GoT from S&P as it is so closely related and they are watching concurrently but spoilers for other shows outside ASOIAF should at least be cut from the edit.
Spartan should really listen to pudgies theories and observations more because she more often than not is right and extremely on point, while spartans are more often than not wrong and way out of field (sorry spartan😂). Spartan said in one reaction that he doesn’t really listen to her or her theories for some reason, like how she realized Joffrey is Cersei and Jaime’s son very early, but he just didn’t listen to her or take her seriously, so he really should listen to her😅
Exactly. Its really cool to see how she picks up on a lot of those things. Even in this reaction, she mentioned that Haelaenas prophecy could mean something more and I think she's right. It probably means 2 things, one would be what we saw and the others would be spoiler that shows up later in season 2
@@Buttcakes15 This was actually hinted at in episode 8 as well. Assault is never ok but when Alicent told him "you're no son of mine" and he responded that he was never enough for her or his father, it was clear that he was a product of severe emotional neglect. I hope that he'll have more nuance than just being Joffery 2.0. I've not read the books but it would be more interesting to see him actually take to being king and actually be somewhat good at it. That would add to the rivalry with Aemond who wants the throne. I'm still team black but it would be nice to see some development with Aegon.
Criston Coles actor said in an interview that he didn't actually best daemon at the tourney, he attacked daemon on his back when he already won, actor said he hopes people picked up on that, that criston was never an honorable fair dude from the get.
I always watch the show twice because you can miss so much in the conversations. I love your reactions so don't worry about missing stuff. Tayla putting the candles in the window was the way that the white worm found out about Viserys death. After watching GOT you learn that you have to listen to the conversations they tell so much.
Yup I caught the candle thing right away but also knew that was the same handmade that we saw in another episode that had previously gone to the white worms home to relay information.
I was blown away by the details in the coronation. It felt like watching Nicholas II being crowned in an Orthodox ceremony with all the hollow pomp & circumstance of a rotting system. It's what I'd always envisioned from a GoT coronation. Tom Glynn-Carney was terrific in bringing out Aegon's fear, hesitation, pride & euphoria all at once. I'm glad they kept much despised Criston putting the Conqueror's crown on Aegon II's head. The Kingmaker is born! What this show does very well is these details, down to locking up servants. Usually these passionate debates, the sense of treachery, the heartbreak are glossed over & we only see the regime change as a "fait accompli". This brings to life the mechanism that historically goes behind a coup, which I assume is as emotionally taxing for the people seizing power. That's why I liked agonized & conflicted Alicent more than her steadfast source counterpart. It's more flesh & blood. She vacillates but her messianic fear for her children fates her to make a cursed gamble. *Jokes aside, Tfw u only support Green Lives Matter King for the extermination of Strong Boys cause ur pro Valeryian blood supremacy.*
The burning building was Mysaria's house. The hooded figure was deff not Otto, but probably one of his lackeys, sent to burn down her house as a meessage for her not to overplay and try to blackmail the Hand again, maybe even to kill her. Or, maybe the lackey was sent by Larys, again on behalf of the queen, without her asking for it.
But Alicent did ask him to do it in that weird feet fetish scene😂 her payment/reward for him to do it was that she let him get off while looking at her feet 😂
@@suddenimpulse030 it ain't much of a spoiler when the obvious is true. Even so it is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. Not unlike the kill list for the coming episodes.
The commander of the Kingsguard, Westerling, also plays a very important character in "Outlander"(great show btw) along with the actor who played poor Beesberry who was just killed this episode. I also very much hope they don't kill him off because the actor, Graham McTavish is just awesome.
Larys has a foot fetish , he shares information with Alicent and for an exchange she shows him her feet :D as I understand it has been going on for a long time
22:47 She knows because Talya lit those candles in the window. It was a prearranged signal that the King was dead. 28:42 That's because they are twins. The actors and the characters. 29:10 The one with Rhaenys is Erryk. The one staying loyal to Otto is Arryk. 29:15 No. That's Mysaria's (The White Worm) house. Burned down by one of Larys Strong's men. 29:40 Lol. You're so wrong here. As if Otto is personally going around burning peoples houses down.
This was an amazing episode and I love the ending because we finally got to see Rhaenys's dragon after all this time. The burning house I think was White worm's home and the one walking away was one of the many people Lyvois made to be his assasins. Helena most likely was crying because of what she saw was to come in the war and perhaps those she might loose of her family as well...not a spoiler only guesses at this point. Aegon was crying because he was being forced to do what he didn't want but then he saw how the people cheered for him and he started to like that fact also I am pretty sure he knows that his father's last words were not to make him king so he was upset aboit that as well because he felt like his father never loved him.
I read it Larys as playing Otto, rather Otto and Alicent at the same time. He goes along with Otto and finds info the White Worm, then trades info for feet with Alicent and executes her request.
I don't mind at all if you guys miss out on some information. I'm sort of a fanatic who has seen the show twice, read the books 3 times, and talks about GOT with my therapist, as first time watchers you've caught on to everything so far and quicker than I did the first time around. One of the initial things I liked was when you pause the episode, say your thoughts and continue! I'm really liking everything and the way your channel is progressing!! :) Mysaria is my personal fave in this episode, I'm mad about how the coronation scene went since I didn't get a single "long live the queen" from the books 😤 I would've been shouting 😭#teamblack !!
a cool symbol of this episode also was when dragons are used in war the small folk always suffer(when meleys Rhaenys dragon breaks through the ground of the dragon pit, I would guess like 100 innocent died. So the action was only semi moral high ground.) #teamsmallfolk
Larys has a lightning bug sigil that he created that he has on his cane. He also pinned the sigil to the guys whose tongues he cut isn't before sending tokill his father and brother at Harrenhall. The White Wyrm reminds me of Varys with wanting what is good for the people.
In Westeros Kinslaying is the worst of taboos and not only that she would also be a Kingslayer. She is not the kind of person who would want to be titled a Kinslayer and Kingslayer.
Great reaction again. Pudgey is on it... she sees all the details! Your timing is incredible between the 2 episodes. Alicent knew about Larys... and his foot fetish... its a sort of payment for information and loyalty I guess.
I think Alicent's misunderstanding of King Viserys' final words wouldn't have made a big difference because Otto's plan from the get-go was for his grandson Aegon to usurp Rhaenyra. This is why he installed his loyalist in the small council in the absence of The King.
I think the burning house was Mysaria's, the white worm. Larys offers Alicent to 'take care of the head". Also the guy in the hood i believe is one of Larys' men who burned down Harrenhal and killed Harwin Strong and his father Lionel the Kings hand.
Aegon was crowned in the dragon pit. That's why she was happy to be heading that way. When you guys say no event ever goes well on Game of Thrones, I'm sitting here waiting patiently for you to watch more GOT 🤗
The prophecies are so subtle... I didn't even realize until now but Helaena said in episode 6 that Aemond would "have to close an eye" in order to be a dragon rider.
@@terrytumble162 Yeah it should be Jaehaerys. If they're both girls it'd be a change from the source material, but I don't think they'd change that - I could be wrong but I don't see why they would. Idk why Aemond said that though, maybe he was talking about viable leaders which the children are not? Perhaps he was claiming it in a similar way as when Renly spoke to Ned in GoT S1E7 (no spoilers for season 2+) - he thought he would be a better king in practice even though his claim was weaker. Could be a writing error, or a genuine change, idk.
I feel bad that you guys are getting flack for missing things, I study film and one of the first things we learn is how to become an "active viewer" and constantly work your brain while youre watching a show/film. Pudgey is definitely an natural active viewer but Spartan is not and thats not a bad thing at all!! Even I find myself not being an active viewer a lot of the time because you can become so easily invested that you don't really think about what you watch until afterwards! I know that I would have missed a HECK of a lot if I hadn't watched YT videos on this show. Keep watching how you guys watch and don't worry too much about it because I enjoy that Spartan watches to simply watch and Pudgey catches on and it creates an interesting dynamic between you both and I'm here for it!
Regardless of what Alicent believes to be the truth, Rhaenyra is still the heir, and she still helped Aegon usurp the throne. Even though she has the best of intentions its still treason.
Thing for telling Arrck and Errck apert. Arrck begins with A for Alicent, Aegon, and Aemond. Errck begins with E for... (this one's trickier.) aEmma's daughter. The actress who plays Rhaenyra is named Emma, so that works too.
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Larys is foot fetish, Alicent the Queen of Feet, control him by her feet
Potential spoiler: you'll understand later in GoT that Aegon Targaryen being king called by Viserys isn't his son that he meant to unite the kingdoms
The coronation took place in the dragon pit, (as you figured out) that’s why Rhaenys was smiling when she was in the crowd. She was thinking “these idiots…” 🤣🤣
Rhaenys "I need to get to the Dragonpit."
Erryk "They'll never let you get past the gate"
Meanwhile, the Goldcloaks: "QUICK! EVERYONE INTO THE DRAGONPIT! Push into the gate like your getting on a train in Japan!"
- What's this foot thing?
- Maybe she just feels comfortable around him.
You have a wholesome mind, Spartan. 😅
Lmao right? As soon as she deliberately took her shoes off and put her feet on the table I could tell it was going to be weird. I've seen a few reactors now struggle to pick up on what was going on until he starts touching himself.
LOL! This was my exact thought so many times in this reaction. Dastardly intrigue is playing out everywhere and he was missing it and I genuinely said "he is too wholesome for this show". That's not a critique, it just is. To watch that whole Larys foot scene and think "maybe the Queen doesn't know" - that's a mind that doesn't naturally think in murky plots.
@@kk_33 people are slow
@@kk_33 I initially missed the art where he started touching himself so i had no idea what the significance of the feet were until i watch this reaction. I just thought she was tired of being in her shoes and stockings, but knew that it was odd that she'd be disrobing in front of him. Now it makes a bit more sense and clearly she knew what she was doing and what his reaction would be, otherwise why would she have done it at all?
@@kk_33 yea I thought it was a little odd at first but nothing extremely weird, like spartan said I thought she was just getting comfortable because they seemed like gossip girls getting ready to talk about drama and what not but then I realized... this dude has a foot fetish 💀
Actually Larys and allicents convo during her only fans moment, larys was talking about the white worm and her hand maiden. So the fire was set at the white worms quarters.
Only fans😂😁
Yes, which is significant because Mysaria is the first person who Alicent has intentionally wanted to have killed.
I completely missed that. I thought they were burning Rhaenys apartment or something
yes and the hooded man walking away was obviously one of larys assassin with no tongue
I thought they burn the fight club with Aegon bastards. with the onlyfan moment I didn't paid attention
We only saw Meleys one time, briefly, when she was flying to King's Landing for the wedding of Laenor and Rhaenyra.
Little tit-bit that they may or may not mention: Rhaenys is Meleys 2nd rider. Her 1st rider, was the mother of Viserys and Daemon. She took them each individually for a ride when they were babies.
I think seasmoke hatch from egg of meleys. They were identical.
@@Noone91875 You can see them side by side in ep 5 and they aren't identical.
@@Noone91875 Seasmoke is most likely from one of Dreamfyre's eggs. AKA The mother of Danny's dragons, making Seasmoke Drogon's brother.
@@EmeraldDreams7 Is that in the books? I thought Dany's eggs came from Asshai
@@markcruz359 It is heavily hinted at. 3 of Dreamfyre's eggs were stolen and sold in Essos. Later 3 eggs turned up in Asshai. Likely the same ones.
Otto wanted Aegon without Alicent in the scene bc he wanted to convince Aegon that he needed to kill Rhaenyra. Alicent would obviously be against that.
NO WAY DUDE!!
@@brentleysadiki358 FAR OUT
Thankfully Rhaenys has done all the convincing required. There can be no peace after what she pulled.
They would get their asses kicked in if they tried that. The Velaryon fleet is bigger than the Greyjoys or Redwine fleets, and Rhaenyra has way too many dragons to make an assault on Dragonstone feasible.
I thought he wanted to kill Aegon and put Aemond in place
Meleys the red queen considered the fastest dragon at the time
Yeah, she flew past like jet at episode 5
@@user-wk5zb9xo9t yeah first time I saw a dragon fold it’s wings to pick up diving speed, wish we saw more of her in the sky!
I couldn’t stop laughing when Spartan said Alicent didn’t know while she had her feet all up in the table😭 Also the burning building was where we saw white worm standing last ep when Alicent’s servant met her.
Yep, and the hooded guy was most likely one of Larys' henchmen, definitely not Otto or Aemond at least.
Fun fact: Meleys ( Rhaeynys's dragon) also known as "The Red Queen" is the fastest dragon, she's even faster than Caraxes. Before Rhaenys she was ridden by Alyssa Targaryen, the mother of Viserys and Daemon.
"She gained a little respect from me this episode."
"I hope she doesn't lose it."
*cuts to the foot pic selling scene*
lmaooooo
I appreciate a lot how you guys read Aegon's character, a lot of reactors just put him in a box of "evil dude always wanted the crown" but it's very different from that
You’re right lol the box should be more of a “evil dude who didn’t always want the crown”
@@yomamma.ismydaddy216 He's not evil
@@RRobespierre1794 I guess that depends on how you define it. He’s definitely sadistic and lacks compassion/empathy. If that’s not ‘evil’ how you understand it so be it
@@RRobespierre1794”He’s not evil.”
He WILL be. 😂
@@RRobespierre1794he raped a girl
Paddy who plays Viserys actually said in an RUclips video I just watched this morning was he felt his character would have not received help on purpose because of him wife passing and of the guilt he felt so the line at his end when he says my love was improvised
Yeah, on his instagram post, he said that Viserys died when Aemma died. He felt so guilty for what he did to her, he took the illness as punishment.
One of the few reactors I look out for in HOTD reactions. Loving the GOT reactions too.
Their GoT reactions are the best! Really enjoying them.
Who else do you like? I like Nikki & Steve and The Normies. Everybody else is meh.
@@Mic-Mak Nikki and Steven for sure, RTTV and YaBoyRoshi because of how they always find a way to make things laughable. The normies are good reactors but I personally wouldn’t search for their reactions.
@@Mic-Mak I like Nikki & Steven as well but Normies are a lil bit loud for my taste :D
@@pastrma8761 jeah i really dont like the normies at all :D but i think there are many good ones. check out "LM Reactions"
I just have to say I laughed out loud when yall pointed out that Lord Caswell didn't get a fair trial.... such sweet summer children. Still watching but have you realized yet how the White Worm knew the king died?? Her informant, Talya, lit the candles in the window of the red keep as a signal. They've obviously been waiting for this moment!!
nice catch, i recognized it as a signal, but had no clue who or what for
And her Home/brothel was the one burning. By Larys commands, of course.
@@Baratheon. They showed Talya meeting the White worm in the previous episode
Not to be that guy but he kinda deserved to be killed. He swore to Aegon II in the morning and then betrayed him by afternoon. Man's treasoning all over the place.
@@BhBc8f8 An oath sworn under duress (death). He knew the Greens were usurping the Throne.
As others have said, the coronation was held AT the dragon pit. The dragons are kept in caves underground. So that's where Rhaenys went and how Meleys came up from beneath them.
Pudgey is so spot on with so many of her predictions! I look forward to seeing her face while she works things out. You can see the wheels turning. XD
If u remember in epi 5 there was 2 dragons fly to the wedding 1 was sea smoke(laenor`s) the other meleys(rhaenys`s)
BEWARE THE BEAST BENEATH THE BOARDS!!! Helena calls it again.
Yeah, these are so stupid, if she actually forsee it, she could have described it a little bit better.
This is one of my favourite reactions to this episode just because you 2 were chearing for Alicent when she was advocating sparing Rhaenyra's and the Blacks' lives. Then not screaming at Rhaenys to kill the Greens. I admire the consistency. Other reactors are hypocrites.
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25:10 alicent didnt hear it as a prophecy, she heard it in bits.. she tought it was a dying wish.. she didnt know about the dream.
Larys has leverage on queen allicent now. So for information and deeds needing to be done, he is basically blackmailing her now for her feet
Larys isn't blackmailing her. It's more of a "payment" for the information she wants to know. He can't say that Alicent had him kill the Strong's without admitting that he is a kinslayer. That would hurt him more than it would hurt her.
Leverage nothing. What that was about, was his payment for the information he gave her.
the actor literally explains how the scene is sexual assault you're so stupid@@krayzy932
Glad you guys are enjoying both the shows so much can't wait to see the rest of you game of thrones and house of dragon reactions
I feel like Otto was particularly ruthless this episode because it was a race to get as much done as they could before word got to Rheanyra and her likely supporters
I love this...Pudgey spotting most of what's going on and Spartan my dude going completely south🤣🤣...at the end of the day you all balance each other out and we love it.
At the end, when Rhaenys' dragon roared...that was Rhaenys saying I could have killed you but I didn't. I think it was a message. I also think it fell on deaf ears.
This was a great episode and reaction.
The innocent reaction to the Foot Scene absolute classic 😂😂
I LOVED THE EPISODE!! SO MUCH TENSION. And as always loved ur reaction ❤️
Aegons coronation was so fking cool, I loved the outfit and his sword (Blackfyre). I don’t really mind when they change things from the source material, but it’s a shame they didn’t include Ser Cristons Kingmaker speech at the small council.
There is a point to be made that the source material isn’t as accurate as some think, since it was written much later by a Maester who used rather unreliable sources in his account of these events. Which also makes it really cool since the events as laid out in the books and the series can exist side by side (to some extent)😊
@@superkoopatrooper4879 even when I imagine Kingslanding. I imagine constantinople obviously without the huge theodosian walls.I mean the targeyens vibe and even the vibe of Kingslanding
@@RamseyGarnaoui you do realize that this isn't the truth for grrm he probably doesn't even know and doesn't care so stop with these it was unreliable narrator in the books the show is what actually happened in the books
@@harsh_1910 Huh? You try to unilaterally destroy a reasonable theory with unfounded speculation?
@@theonlyonewithgum1452 reading in between the lines or knowing how george is unfounded speculation and if you want to be naive and believe this bullshit then go ahead but stop spreading it around like fact
36:08 , You already saw Rhaenys Coming to the Wedding of Rhaenyra & Laenor on her Dragon MELEYS in Episode 5. Laenor was on SEASMOKE.
2) The Coronation happened in the DRAGON PIT. Rhaenys smirked because that's where she wanted to go to free her Dragon and the Crowd she was in was anyway being pushed by the Goldcloaks towards it. She got in without being noticed.
Yeah, whoever decided it was a good idea to have the Coronation above the dragon pit while a dragon rider is in town didn't really think that one through lol
@@WilsonRows "a" dragonrider? all of alicents children ride like the nastiest dragons
@@flabbergaster1011 yeah, but you're missing my point. None of Alicent's children are going to do what Rhaneys did. It was pretty evident that Rhaenys was leaning towards Team Black. When the throne gets usurped it only takes 1 guard's loyalty to let her out, which is exactly what happened.
When you said "maybe she's comfortable around him" I almost choked on my tea! Lol
Great reaction! It's been really interesting seeing you both grow with these series and become acclimated to the style of writing/storytelling. It's definitely different from others.
I just want to say that Spartan and pudgey’s reactions sums up what I’ve noticed amongst other couples that react to the GOT’s universe, the women follow the story and the connections that the characters have with each other more closely and notice the small things going on more than the men, that isn’t saying that the men don’t care about the story or the connections it’s just they are more focused on the action and the big situations going on, so the women often have a better grasp of what’s going on and are able to predict what’s going to happen better than the men IMO
Emotional intelligence.
LMAO Spartan is so innocent, how could Alicent ignore that this dude is touching himself watching her feet, they are sitted 4 feet apart and she took her socks off for him XDD
the naivety of the foot scene was... hysterical!
I think Helaena's prophecy has multiple interpretations. Until the literal beast beneath the boards this episode, I interpreted it as saying there's some danger brewing just out of sight, a forecast of the events to come. It could refer to Viserys's tendency to cover up all the tensions and pretend that everything is alright when it's not. It could also refer to the network of spies under floors and in the walls, a caution against people like Mysaria and Larys.
My possible interpretations of the prophecy: Rhaenys crashing through the dragon pit at the end of the episode on the back of her dragon Meleys, the explosion killing innocent Kingslanding civilians simply for being there. The coming war and conflict. Or, Aegon's tyrannical kingship. I don't know why, but to me I got the strong impression that the prophecy referred to Aegon bringing the kingdom to ruin.
I think I'm in love with the faces Pudgey makes. Great reaction as usual.😆
the guy that was hanged is from a big family house, he doesn't live in King's landing in a small house, this was the white worm house
if Otto is the hand of the king, then alicent is the "foot" of the king. lol
The feet of Harrenhal
That scene certainly was a bit of a heel turn . . . I guess Alicent and Larys are sole mates. They certainly have a weird socks life, but hey, whatever floats their boot.
It's a shame that people give you flack for missing stuff, everyone is human and we're all here to enjoy your reaction with you so don't be hard on yourselves or take it too seriously. I guess sometimes people want you to have the best experience and not miss anything at all and sometimes come across overzealous.
Personally I'm really enjoying the channel and the relationship between you guys, you each appreciate different aspects of the show and bounce off each other really well.
Keep it up!
I don't think anyone is "giving them flack" they just are trying to explain things they are missing...
Even Spartan said he doesn't mind and can laugh at himself for missing stuff it's not a big deal.
Better to tell them what they miss rather than them be confused or out of the loop.
I missed a lot of stuff my first time and I was into it, idk why people expect people to pick up everything in one watch
Common sense take you far in life 😂
@@xXSinForLifeXx except they literally said they're getting flack and it's clearly getting to them.
@@davidrichardson5482 Except they literally didn't from what I heard they were appreciative of the help. They just said sometimes they will miss stuff it's just something they, and the fans can laugh at and they will not pick up everything.
Think you are making up your own narrative to feel like some kind of white knight. It's not that deep bro people want to help them by providing information they missed.
The building where the coronation was held is the Dragonpit. The dragons of house Targaryen are held inside/underneath it.
LOL @ Spartan this episode. Thinking Alicent is not aware of the foot fetish in that scene. Also, thinking Otto would personally go and burn someone's house down 😂😂
27:43 “I still don’t get this foot thi- oh 😮” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You both are crazy! You both ARE PERFECT! ✨🙌🏽✨
Of course Alicent knows. Not only she knows, but she's been doing this for a while, is what the scene tells us.
Love the way pudgey says “I know” “Anaurrrr” 😂
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i'm sure a lot of us are very careful not to spoil, it would be nice if the reactors did the same or at least cut the spoilers during the edit. I expect spoilers for GoT from S&P as it is so closely related and they are watching concurrently but spoilers for other shows outside ASOIAF should at least be cut from the edit.
The hanging man was the guy they stopped at the gate… the burning house was the White Worms house.
The coronation was *at* the dragon pit, which was why she burst out from underneath.
Spartan should really listen to pudgies theories and observations more because she more often than not is right and extremely on point, while spartans are more often than not wrong and way out of field (sorry spartan😂). Spartan said in one reaction that he doesn’t really listen to her or her theories for some reason, like how she realized Joffrey is Cersei and Jaime’s son very early, but he just didn’t listen to her or take her seriously, so he really should listen to her😅
For real, she really picks up on a lot of nuance plot points
Exactly. Its really cool to see how she picks up on a lot of those things. Even in this reaction, she mentioned that Haelaenas prophecy could mean something more and I think she's right. It probably means 2 things, one would be what we saw and the others would be spoiler that shows up later in season 2
Also in this reaction how she picked up on Aegon never being loved by his family, but when he becomes king he is. I didn’t even notice that.
its not that big of a deal. also having spartan agree with everything she says would be boring, let him have his own reaction lol
@@Buttcakes15 This was actually hinted at in episode 8 as well. Assault is never ok but when Alicent told him "you're no son of mine" and he responded that he was never enough for her or his father, it was clear that he was a product of severe emotional neglect. I hope that he'll have more nuance than just being Joffery 2.0. I've not read the books but it would be more interesting to see him actually take to being king and actually be somewhat good at it. That would add to the rivalry with Aemond who wants the throne. I'm still team black but it would be nice to see some development with Aegon.
Erwin Smith on the shirt? Cool. Btw, he looks like Aegon The Conqueror, ha!
Criston Coles actor said in an interview that he didn't actually best daemon at the tourney, he attacked daemon on his back when he already won, actor said he hopes people picked up on that, that criston was never an honorable fair dude from the get.
He was honorable enough to get of the horse and fight deamon on even ground when he could simply charge and trample him.
Criston did not yield while Daemon did
@@anhkriva5274 did you not read the comment you just replied too? 🤣
@@wrzzwally ???
I always watch the show twice because you can miss so much in the conversations. I love your reactions so don't worry about missing stuff. Tayla putting the candles in the window was the way that the white worm found out about Viserys death. After watching GOT you learn that you have to listen to the conversations they tell so much.
Yup I caught the candle thing right away but also knew that was the same handmade that we saw in another episode that had previously gone to the white worms home to relay information.
22:50 she knows because Talya lit the candles at the window right after she informed Alicent
I was blown away by the details in the coronation. It felt like watching Nicholas II being crowned in an Orthodox ceremony with all the hollow pomp & circumstance of a rotting system. It's what I'd always envisioned from a GoT coronation. Tom Glynn-Carney was terrific in bringing out Aegon's fear, hesitation, pride & euphoria all at once. I'm glad they kept much despised Criston putting the Conqueror's crown on Aegon II's head. The Kingmaker is born! What this show does very well is these details, down to locking up servants. Usually these passionate debates, the sense of treachery, the heartbreak are glossed over & we only see the regime change as a "fait accompli". This brings to life the mechanism that historically goes behind a coup, which I assume is as emotionally taxing for the people seizing power. That's why I liked agonized & conflicted Alicent more than her steadfast source counterpart. It's more flesh & blood. She vacillates but her messianic fear for her children fates her to make a cursed gamble.
*Jokes aside, Tfw u only support Green Lives Matter King for the extermination of Strong Boys cause ur pro Valeryian blood supremacy.*
The burning building was Mysaria's house. The hooded figure was deff not Otto, but probably one of his lackeys, sent to burn down her house as a meessage for her not to overplay and try to blackmail the Hand again, maybe even to kill her. Or, maybe the lackey was sent by Larys, again on behalf of the queen, without her asking for it.
It was one of Lary's "busy bees" we saw walking away from Mysaria's burning mansion.
But Alicent did ask him to do it in that weird feet fetish scene😂 her payment/reward for him to do it was that she let him get off while looking at her feet 😂
Mysaria is playing a dangerous game. But I think she knows
@@dgrmn12345 Stop posting book spoilers. Its listed in the moderator rules.
@@suddenimpulse030 it ain't much of a spoiler when the obvious is true. Even so it is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. Not unlike the kill list for the coming episodes.
Alicent selling her feet is definitely one of the weirdest moments in GOT/HOTD history lol she definitely knew you could see it all I. Her face.
The commander of the Kingsguard, Westerling, also plays a very important character in "Outlander"(great show btw) along with the actor who played poor Beesberry who was just killed this episode. I also very much hope they don't kill him off because the actor, Graham McTavish is just awesome.
Larys has a foot fetish , he shares information with Alicent and for an exchange she shows him her feet :D as I understand it has been going on for a long time
I love how the music that plays during Aegon’s coronation is his mother’s theme music. Truly symbolic of Alicent’s true desires.
22:47 She knows because Talya lit those candles in the window. It was a prearranged signal that the King was dead.
28:42 That's because they are twins. The actors and the characters.
29:10 The one with Rhaenys is Erryk. The one staying loyal to Otto is Arryk.
29:15 No. That's Mysaria's (The White Worm) house. Burned down by one of Larys Strong's men.
29:40 Lol. You're so wrong here. As if Otto is personally going around burning peoples houses down.
Wasn't Otto in the cloak, was one of Larys' henchman burning down Mysaria's HQ.
This was an amazing episode and I love the ending because we finally got to see Rhaenys's dragon after all this time. The burning house I think was White worm's home and the one walking away was one of the many people Lyvois made to be his assasins. Helena most likely was crying because of what she saw was to come in the war and perhaps those she might loose of her family as well...not a spoiler only guesses at this point. Aegon was crying because he was being forced to do what he didn't want but then he saw how the people cheered for him and he started to like that fact also I am pretty sure he knows that his father's last words were not to make him king so he was upset aboit that as well because he felt like his father never loved him.
Alicent was trading for info. She was 100% aware. Definitely considering Rhaenys words tho in that moment imo.
Keep up the excellent work 🤩 🤩
"it's hard to put a leash on a dog when you place a crown on its head." - Tyrion Lannister
I read it Larys as playing Otto, rather Otto and Alicent at the same time.
He goes along with Otto and finds info the White Worm, then trades info for feet with Alicent and executes her request.
It was Mysaria’s house/apartment. Larys said to take out the spiders you have to remove the head. Meaning murdering Mysaria.
I need a poster of Rheanys on that dragon! So badass!!
I love the way Pudgy says "I kneerrrrooowww'
29:30 The guy walking was one of Larys's men who also burned Harwin and Lyonel Strong and the house was the White Worms house.
I don't mind at all if you guys miss out on some information. I'm sort of a fanatic who has seen the show twice, read the books 3 times, and talks about GOT with my therapist, as first time watchers you've caught on to everything so far and quicker than I did the first time around. One of the initial things I liked was when you pause the episode, say your thoughts and continue! I'm really liking everything and the way your channel is progressing!! :) Mysaria is my personal fave in this episode, I'm mad about how the coronation scene went since I didn't get a single "long live the queen" from the books 😤 I would've been shouting 😭#teamblack !!
Otto the Hand and Alicent the foot 😂😂😂
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I actually laughed at the "lost his marble" comment.
the coronation was in the dragon pit and the dragons caverns were beneath it. So Rhaenys sneaked down and due to the big crowds nobody noticed.
a cool symbol of this episode also was when dragons are used in war the small folk always suffer(when meleys Rhaenys dragon breaks through the ground of the dragon pit, I would guess like 100 innocent died. So the action was only semi moral high ground.) #teamsmallfolk
Larys has a lightning bug sigil that he created that he has on his cane. He also pinned the sigil to the guys whose tongues he cut isn't before sending tokill his father and brother at Harrenhall. The White Wyrm reminds me of Varys with wanting what is good for the people.
In Westeros Kinslaying is the worst of taboos and not only that she would also be a Kingslayer. She is not the kind of person who would want to be titled a Kinslayer and Kingslayer.
as always not only cool reactions, but good discussion about the episode
Great reaction again. Pudgey is on it... she sees all the details! Your timing is incredible between the 2 episodes.
Alicent knew about Larys... and his foot fetish... its a sort of payment for information and loyalty I guess.
It was Mysaria's house that burned. Larys sent someone to do it.
We need “Not your Aegon!” on merchandise 😂
It’s one of Larys silent assassins that burned the White Worms quarters.
The story that's being told in this show is a period in Targaryen history called The Dance of the Dragons.
Meleys, female dragon, is nicknamed the "Red Queen", she's Princess Rhaenys's dragon. 🔥🐲
Also, just a note: the coronation was taking place inside the Dragonpit; that's what the structure they're all standing in is called.
They should have called this episode "The Feet is Strong".
For the Night is dark and full of feet.
Larys burned Mysaria's house. Erryk (Aegon's former guard) helped Rhaenys. Alicent knew about the foot fetish, that's their arrangement.
I think Alicent's misunderstanding of King Viserys' final words wouldn't have made a big difference because Otto's plan from the get-go was for his grandson Aegon to usurp Rhaenyra. This is why he installed his loyalist in the small council in the absence of The King.
I think the burning house was Mysaria's, the white worm. Larys offers Alicent to 'take care of the head". Also the guy in the hood i believe is one of Larys' men who burned down Harrenhal and killed Harwin Strong and his father Lionel the Kings hand.
Alicent knew what she has to do to get the info from Larys, she looked all to familiar. She doesn’t like it but she will do it.
Aegon was crowned in the dragon pit. That's why she was happy to be heading that way.
When you guys say no event ever goes well on Game of Thrones, I'm sitting here waiting patiently for you to watch more GOT 🤗
The head knight is also in another great show: Outlander.
He was also in The Hobbit movies playing a dwarf.
@@psychedelicpegasus7587 King Thorin.
The prophecies are so subtle... I didn't even realize until now but Helaena said in episode 6 that Aemond would "have to close an eye" in order to be a dragon rider.
We saw Aegon and Helaena's twin children this episode. They are a boy, Jaehaerys, and a girl, Jaehaera.
I wasn’t sure if they were both girls because Aemond claimed he’s next in line for the throne if Aegon dies. Surely it’d be Jaeherys?
@@terrytumble162 Yeah it should be Jaehaerys. If they're both girls it'd be a change from the source material, but I don't think they'd change that - I could be wrong but I don't see why they would.
Idk why Aemond said that though, maybe he was talking about viable leaders which the children are not? Perhaps he was claiming it in a similar way as when Renly spoke to Ned in GoT S1E7 (no spoilers for season 2+) - he thought he would be a better king in practice even though his claim was weaker. Could be a writing error, or a genuine change, idk.
@@sam_c95 cheers for the reply. I reckon you’re right, technically he’s not the next in line but in his head he is.
I feel bad that you guys are getting flack for missing things, I study film and one of the first things we learn is how to become an "active viewer" and constantly work your brain while youre watching a show/film. Pudgey is definitely an natural active viewer but Spartan is not and thats not a bad thing at all!! Even I find myself not being an active viewer a lot of the time because you can become so easily invested that you don't really think about what you watch until afterwards! I know that I would have missed a HECK of a lot if I hadn't watched YT videos on this show. Keep watching how you guys watch and don't worry too much about it because I enjoy that Spartan watches to simply watch and Pudgey catches on and it creates an interesting dynamic between you both and I'm here for it!
I love your reactions❤. Keep going guys
Regardless of what Alicent believes to be the truth, Rhaenyra is still the heir, and she still helped Aegon usurp the throne. Even though she has the best of intentions its still treason.
Thing for telling Arrck and Errck apert.
Arrck begins with A for Alicent, Aegon, and Aemond.
Errck begins with E for... (this one's trickier.) aEmma's daughter. The actress who plays Rhaenyra is named Emma, so that works too.
That was White Worm's place that was burning.
They raced to aegon as if he the other person would see him 5 minutes later lol. Like he will be tied to whatever request he hears first 😂