HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 1x9 REACTION - THE GREEN COUNCIL - GAME OF THRONES PREQUEL SERIES
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2022
- What's up, Cavalry, we are back again today with yet another House of the Dragon reaction and commentary to the brand new episode, 1x9, 'The Green Council'!
What. An. Episode!!!
We are, once again, thrown into the midst of political turmoil following King Viserys' death and witnessing the ripple effects of his absence radiate throughout all the characters was... difficult, to say the least, making us feel that this story is now at a precipice, especially with the thundering score to the image of new King Aegon raising his sword to his people.
Another masterclass in visual storytelling, this episode was filled with intrigue, mystery and the possibly the greatest, most badass dragon rider reveal in the history of Game of Thrones.
This episode, helmed by Clare Kilner, belonged completely and totally to Olivia Cooke's Alicent and Eve Best's Rhaenys. These two women were powerhouses, hurricanes unleashed upon the audience with their unbelievable acting talent - what a sight to behold!
What did you guys think about this episode?? For those of y'all that haven't read the books, what do you think is going to happen for the season finale?
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like button and subscribe. What a way to end the episode! Looks like Rhaenys freed her dragon and is on her way to warn Rhaenyra! Man oh man things are getting spicy 😁
I really liked how Alicent covered her son with herself to protect him. She stood between him and the giant beast without second thoughts and fear for herself. And before that, she ordered Criston, instead of protecting her, to protect her daughter. This scene really got me.
Sorry for my bad English, if there's any mistakes, I'm learning.
Your English is awesome and I also totally agree with your point. I loved it, too.
Doesn't change the fact she's an a-hole
I gotta say even though i am team black, i am really digging Halaena Targaryen. The look she gave when she saw the "beast beneath the boards" felt like she realized she is not crazy and her predictions are actually coming true. Her character is really going somewhere 😈
Right?!?! Definitely Team Black here but some of the characters on for the Greens are growing to be awesome!!
It sucks because it's a misunderstanding but it's a ridiculous one. Because viserys didn't change his mind in the throne room or at dinner. Or what felt like the thousands of years he was alive. Everyone knows he would never turn on Rhaenyra. Lol
Lol yeah.. I feel like Alicent heard what she wanted to hear, rather than try to figure out what exactly he meant.
And no one really believed it anyway - his last dying breath
Epi 5:"we should keep this guy at all cost"
Epi 9:"i hate this guy 🖕"🤣🤣
Ahahah, we are mercurial like that 🤣🤣🤣
ladies and gentelmen the dance of the dragons has begun
ohhh boy...things are gonna get real messy here!
Who's have thought "the beast beneath the boards" would have been Rhaenys and Meleys! Great reaction as usual guys!
Thank you so much @Jean Jeannie we appreciate the love! And yeah...that moment had our jaws dislocated pretty much 😂
@@OfficialMediaKnights I literally jumped up at that part! How amazing! Episode 9 in GOT history were always the best ones so this didn't disappoint. Alicent earned a small admiration from me today too, I actually really enjoyed her words in this episode, she said a lot of the right things. How excited are we all for the finale! It's going to be epic. 🐉💯
That was Dragonpit where they had the coronation. Dragons are kept underneath. That's where Rhaenys escaped to. And instead of coming up through the conventional route, she just exploded out right in the middle.
The conventional route was more than likely closed to prevent anybody from fleeing...specially Rhaenys. That moment definitely caught us by surprise!
@@OfficialMediaKnights "beware the beast beneath the boards" Helaena Targaryen is now the Queen. The only Green I support ❤️
“LOOK AT THOSE SPIKES!”
That would be The Red Queens crown ❤
such a beautiful dragon dude! ❤️
@@OfficialMediaKnights Meleys is gorgeous yes but Sunfyre is the most pretty of them all. Shame he is owned by the Aegon the Turd
Fun fact, in King’s Landing, the dragonpit is located on top of the Hill of Rhaenys 😉
Interesting fact! Thank you for sharing 😃
Remember Vhagar and Caraxes flying together in Pentos with Laena and Daemon. Now they are in opposite sides.
So unfortunate man! to have these beautiful beasts fight each other on account of politics. And to know they went extinct pretty much because of this upcoming war is even sadder!
Before that Caraxes was risen by Aemond, the first born son of Jaeherys, Rhaenys father, and Daemons uncle, and Vhagar was ridden by Daemon and Viserys father, Baelon. So Caraxes has been flying with Vhagar for as long as he could.
Yeah that part and the fact that many of gear dragons will be killed by their actual mothers who laid them as eggs really saddens me.
I’m pretty sure everyone has this figured out by now but halaena is a dragon dreamer, meaning she can see into the future hence 'there is a beast beneath the boards' but it isn’t that simple. She can’t see what exactly is gonna happen or when it’s gonna happen. She just knows something is gonna happen that’s it. She also referenced Bran being the last king who’d have no legs in episode 7
I LOVE that Alicent paranoia over her childrens lives was 110% confirmed legit since the lords where very well prepared to throw her in her chambers if she would be difficult to deal with and proceed to crown Aegon no matter what. But she chose to play against her father to try to protect both her kids and Rhaenyra.... being Alicent sucks
You are so right, this was going to happen with or without her! At the minimum, she tried to shield Rhaenyra by not having her killed...
I was blown away by the details of the coronation. It felt like watching Nicholas II being crowned in an Orthodox ceremony with all the hollow pomp & circumstance of a rotting system. It's what I'd always envisioned from a GoT coronation. Tom Glynn-Carney was terrific in bringing out Aegon's emotions of fear, hesitation, pride & euphoria all at once. I'm glad they kept much despised Criston putting the Conqueror's crown on Aegon II's head. The Kingmaker is born! What the show's doing really well is the details, down to locking up servants. Usually the passionate debates, the sense of treachery & heartbreak are glossed over. We only see the regime change as a "fait accompli". This bring to life the mechanism that historically goes behind a coup, which I assume is as emotionally taxing for the people seizing power. That's why I like agonized & conflicted Alicent more than her steadfast source counterpart. It's more flesh & blood. She vacillates but her messianic fear for her children fates her to make a cursed gamble.
*Jokes aside, I only support my Green Lives Matter King for the extermination of Strong Boys cause I'm pro Valeryian blood supremacy.*
Welcome back and thanks for commenting again!!
The coronation scene was so subtle, so powerful and just so finely enhanced by all the actors' performance, it was such a emotionally confusing moment. We felt all the things you mention - the dread of seeing Aegon walk down that hall amongst the people, almost as if he were walking to the gallows. There are an overwhelming amount of complex emotions in this, and it just goes to show again how incredibly talented and skillful the writers of this show are!
I was dissappointed by the kingmaker, without that scene in the book where he convinces Aegon to be king, it feels like literally anyone was deserving of Crowning him, at least he had relevance this episode, compared the previous one where he only said one line.
Sorry to hear you were disappointed. We are also fans who've witnessed many book adaptations, some of which got it wrong, some of which got it right - it's always superfrustrating to see some big changes that feel nonsensical, so we can definitely relate to how you feel!
I thought Criston was fantastic in this episode. He came off arrogant & despicable and he's certainly managed to anger the viewers if the reaction channels and tweets are any indication. He's doing his job right!
Haha to be fair, the actor is doing a fantastic job - alongside all the other actors. Us feeling as passionately as we do, really is a testament to their storytelling - and we need characters like Crispin, those that frustrate, annoy and shock, and the actor is doing precisely that! Such a talented cast, overall!
I love how Aliecent thought she could prevent Aegon from getting burn to a crisp by standing in front of him, but you know...she tried lol.
10:28 The score in this episode is outstanding. 🥰
Reminded us of the theme they used for the Night King! It was a beautifully composed track. Loving the music and how they’re pairing it with the cinematography so far😃
When Otto commanded the Lord: "That's like a dictature move" , it's a monarchy, they're all dictators.
True this brotha! 😂 The small folk definitely don't have a say in any of this.
@@OfficialMediaKnights Also, is murder only bad on the Greens side or does it apply for Rhaenys and Daemon too? 🤣🤣
I know the viewers on the Blacks' side have all the badass murder scenes instead of the sneaky ones but still lol.
"Beware the Beast beneath the boards"- Helaena Targaryen s1 ep8.
She repeated it again during this episode...I'm loving these premonitions!
If you read the book you know she's talking about aegon and what he did to rhaenrya
Thank you for another great reaction. It's nice to see when reactors analyze the episodes and characters deeper, especially in a show like this, and see every point of view, instead of just get into it with some kind of bias.
The episode was totally different than I expected, it was kinda weird, but I enjoyed it very much. So far, I felt like they were trying to make Team Black look "better", to push them to be more "likeable" to the fans, but I'm glad they are starting to give more dimensions to the Greens as well and make them more humane. The acting was really great and all of them played their part very well.
My attention keeps coming back to Aemond, and he still didn't even do anything that's important for the plot, nor had many lines and screen time. But whenever he appears he just manages to grab the attention. He had a very few lines so far, but they were really cool and he delivered them so well. I loved how here he is so different from ep.8, where he was badass, but with his family he looks a lot calmer and soft. The actor is doing a crazy good job. I'm sure he'll deliver perfectly in the next episode as well.
I also like that they showed more of Aegon and gave a side that you can somehow understand and relate to in a way. Same with Alicent. Rhaenys showing up was cool, but I have to admit I didn't really understand the point of the scene.
Sorry for the long comment, but there aren't many places where you can actually have a good discussion about the story and characters without fans being too biased towards one character and not even wanting to talk about the story.
P.S: I also have to add that Aemond gives me less and less Daemon vibe. They are developing in their own characters and I like that.
Thank you dude! it means the world to us to read these compliments. I liked that we had a complete episode from the Greens perspective. Now if they can balance this in S2 its gonna be perfect!
@@OfficialMediaKnights Agreed. We need more from the Greens, because it feels like the show is showing the Blacks in better light and makes you lean towards their side more. I hope they'll balance it in the enxt season so we can clearly see the bad sides of both and understand both sides better.
Absolutely - the point is to humanize every character, show their flaws and their good sides. Nobody is 100% good or evil. When people make choices, it's not because they woke up saying, 'hey, let me be a villain real quick' - it's because people feel justified in their actions. We need to see and understand those justifications, and especially now that the Greens have usurped the throne, and accidentally killed Luce (which is definitely NOT how Rhaenyra and Daemon will see it!) we need to see how their choices affect them and motivate them. That's what makes a story and its characters truly compelling and unique. To be fair, they did course-correct relatively well with the Greens' episode, so I can't wait to see how they're going to develop each character more and flesh out the conflict further.
@@OfficialMediaKnights I'm glad they added the Greens episode as well, but I feel they still didn't do them justice compared to the Blacks. It will be interesting what they have in plan for season 2. It will be interesting.
I like how Aemond even wanting to be king- does his duty. What he has to do. It’s the eldest son and he accepts it. Since he was a child he was ready to do his duty…. Seemingly following the books in being honorable.
Regarding Aegon actually feeling love and support of the people, something he’s never felt- perhaps legitimate responsibility shall mature him
Aemond is ready and more responsible that's for sure. I wonder how someone that doesn't wanna be king reacts to suddenly being crowned. This is bound to be no good.
I discovered your channel recently and love your reactions. I just want specifically note that dude, your *voice* is superb. Obviously you are a RUclipsr but I also hope you're doing more with it. Take it from someone who gets complimented all the time (mine is very deep rather), you are a pleasure to listen to. 👍
wow! Thank you man! It's funny that you'd say that. I actually trained for voice acting for a few years. Hopefully one day I'll get to voice something 😀
It probably won’t happen until season 3 or 4 but both Daemon and Aemond have a major dragon battle. That’s all I’ll say about it. LOL
11:42 do you guys think there is more that we didn’t see between Alicent and Ser Criston? 🤔
Definitely got that vibe! Looks like there's more to that relationship than we realized!
I feel like it’s one sided like Alicent knows he is in love with her so she uses it to her advantage kind of like how she uses her feet to get what she needs from Larys lol
Ohhhh that would make sense too. I'm not sure if either would abandon their 'morals' and beliefs to actually get physical with one another, considering how they both were illustrated to feel in earlier episodes. But people change, so I feel both options could be possible!
this was my favorite episode of season 1! so much compelling character development going on and such excellent writing! nice catch on the music echoing the episode with the sept explosion! the music in this episode brings me to tears every time with how beautiful it is! and I am really somehow liking??? Aegon?? how did they do that? I loved the weirdness between him and his brother when Aemond is trying to capture him and then Aegon starts giggling? I really wonder what the heck is gonna happen between them! I am gonna go out on a limb and say that I think Aegon is more needing to just simply feel like people like him... rather than have a lust for power.... it seems like his whole life he kinda felt second best and he just want approval.. but he's also wacko so... we'll see!
I'm so glad that you guys saw that scene with Rhaenys that way. Some people are mad about it and think it was dumb because it wasn't in the book. But as a book reader it was a brilliant addition to the story and it spoke volumes of Rhaenys' character! Love your reaction😊❣️
It's not that it was dumb because it wasn't in the book, it was dumb and it also happened to not be in the book, but even if we over analyze it and make it have sense, it doesn't change the fact that it almost ruined Aegon's coronation, that was a beautiful scene even if both Aegon and the greens don't deserve it, but hey we can't have two whole episodes without a dragon scene right?...
@@ctvuniverse4414 idk man I just think it was cool and j enjoyed the fact that Rhaenys made an exit like that. She was always mentioned as a fearless woman so it makes sense
@@keanancupido She's gonna have many scenes to shine in the war, this was unnecessary at least 100 people died?, for what?, whether she did this or not ti wouldn't change anything, well, other than mass murder.
It was a fanservice scene, it was nonseless.
People didn't like it not because it wasn't in the books but because it was unnecessary. What's the point of that scene if she didn't burn them?? The war has to happen so her being face to face with the enemies before the war and dropping the ball was stupid. You know what's more stupid is the explanation of the writers "she couldn't do it because she saw a mother" and yet she killed hundreds of mothers, fathers, and children with that entrance alone but whatever as long as fans get their badass moment.
@The Media Knights I hope my Aemond prediction I mentioned is previous videos of yours plays out he hasn’t burnt a camp of bandits yet but he will hopefully in episode 10 or season 2 or House of the Dragon if the prediction happens
I have a question @The Media Knights is there going to be a season 2 of HOTD where my predictions come true?
@The Media Knights the roar of Meleys starts off normal but turns into a Banshee esque wail at the end
That dragon was so badass man! That Roar!!! Yikes....definitely had goosebumps!
Hey guys! Every time I wanna say how great your reactions are but get distracted by something else:) You stand out to me so much for your sincere emotions and great comprehension of the events in the show! Thank you for your job!
Regarding the episode… Rhaenys didn’t go to the Dragonpit. The coronation was already happening there. So, she didn’t go there just for the sake of the ‘fun’ ceremony. Lots of show viewers were confused though.
As for Alicent’s misunderstanding… I don’t know guys, to me it was like she heard what she already wanted to hear. She knew he was drugged and unwell, so those words should’ve been perceived more skeptical…but not by her :) Additionally, what Rhaenys said about Alicent trying to please the men around her was 100% true. Let’s take just the feet scene alone. While Rhaenyra takes from men what she wants (love, intimacy, beneficial station) men take what they want from Alicent.
Thanks so much for the comment and support, it means the world to us! Also you've made a very interesting point regarding Alicent and Rhaenyra, and you are spot on!! Alicent has given in to men significantly more than Rhaenyra has (not to say Rhaenyra hasn't!) and I can only imagine the toll that has taken on her. I do feel that these women are two sides to the same coin with the way their stories progress almost in tandem.
Also @The Media Knights there’s probably going to be arguing between Aemond and Alicent about about Aegon getting the throne
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@The Media Knights Meleys has a very haunting roar just imagine me, you and your friend hiking through a large valley at night and hearing that sound echo through the valley
I'd be haunted for the rest of my life dude 😂
Episode title: “It is our fate, I think, to crave always what is given to another. If one possesses a thing, the other will take it away.” AND “There is no power but what X allows you to take.”
Random observations:
- The gold in the treasury will be divided (and sent away to various places) for safekeeping.
- Talya lighting the candles is the signal to Myseria that the king has died.
(They even zoom out the view to show that the candlelight is visible from far outside the Red Keep.)
- Myseria has a healed cut across her throat
- You flee what other men die seeking.
Similarities
- Viserys/Alicent
I feel like there is a weird similarity between Viserys and Alicent. Both of them having lived their lifes in a way Otto manipulated them to with them only late realizing that fact. All the danger their most beloved family is in, perceived or real, was created by Otto´s manipulations of their relationships with others. As Alicent expressed: “I wanted what you impressed on me to want.” Viserys´ relationship with Daemon, partly his relationship with Rhaenyra too and Alicent was the way Otto created it for them to be. The same goes for Alicent too in her relationship with Viserys, Rhaenyra and Aegon. I include Aegon because who knows how he would have turned out if he wasn´t burdened by expectations of what kind of qualities he should have for becoming king one day. He might have been good enough as he was and gotten the love he so deeply craves without being pigeonholed into something he never was.
Viserys and Alicent were also never able to see that people, mainly Otto, plotted behind their backs to create an outcome different than they themselves desired. Both took a long time to finally see it. Both also needed other people to show/tell them what was going on. In Viserys case it took Daemon and Rhaenyra to make him aware of Otto´s scheming and he still welcomed him back as a hand. Alicent needed Rhaenys words to see clearly.
If we are kind to Alicent and take her words on face value then her wish is to install Aegon as a king and yet prevent war. In that regard Viserys and her were also equal in their desire to resolve the succession peacefully. They only differ on the queen/king as the heir and in their methods in trying to achieve that goal.
Additionally in the green council Alicent forcefully demands that everyone acknowledges Viserys love for Rhaenyra and also that no harm may come to her or her family. Yet one sentence later Otto tries to send Ser Westerling to kill them all yet she doesn´t speak out again. Had Ser Westerling not refused that order she would have allowed it to happen.
Neither she nor Viserys did what was necessary to ensure the outcome they wanted and worked so hard for. There is either a naivety to both of them or some willful blindness in truly seeing their family for what they are. They might not be ready to pay the price for acting on what is so clearly visible.
- Aemond/Ser Crispin
I find it very curious that both characters are equaled in this episode in 2 points:
a) “I know what it is to toil for something others are freely given.”
I understand Aemonds point of view. The dragons of most of his peers were born to them but he needed to claim one. He also “paid” a price for it which the others didn´t have to. The others also were able to form friendships/companionships without effort (Aegon with Jace and Luke), they were also betrothed or married to women which brought/will bring advantages to their standing/fate in life. Yet he is alone. Aegon was given the crown despite him not having the right temperament nor the desire for it. And even though Aemond worked very hard to educate himself in history and philosophy and train himself to be a good warrior and had more characteristics which a king needed in his eyes than Aegon he still is only second in line to be king as to his understanding of Otto´s sucsession ideas.
I do NOT understand what Ser Crispin means. See below in my request for an explanation.
b) “We are decent men with no taste for depravity.”
I don´t agree with this characterization of Ser Criston. He might not be a sexual deviant but he has already murdered 2 people without a just cause and if it was up to him he would have taken the eye of Lucerys without a moment of hesitation. Only the king, Ser Westerling´s and the crowd´s presence prevented him from acting on his base instincts.
Comparisons
- Rhaenys/Alicent (Targaryen loyalty/Living in the prison of the patriarchy´s making)
The Targaryens (- Alicent´s children) are refreshingly loyal to their own. They may disagree between themselves but everyone who is not them is on the outside. They won´t allow anyone to manipulate/sway them to a different side in a conflict away from their family no matter what they could gain by it. They are very direct in their speech and actions and less inhibited by manners aka traditions of Westeros. Rhaenys embodies the Targaryen “We are different than everyone else.” as do Rhaenyra and Daemon.
Yes, Rhaenys should have been Queen due to her being the daughter of Jaehaerys´ 3rd son while Viserys was son to the 4th son. Yes, Westeros has a strong patriarchy which doesn´t treat women as equals. All of that is true. Yet in my opinion that all wouldn´t have prevented Rhaenys from fighting to be Queen if not for the fact that Viserys was family. She would never harm who she considers family nor would she go up against them in public. If she has anything to say she will say it to that person directly in private. Like we´ve seen in this episode she has no issues declaring her support for Rhaenyra´s side despite Rhaenyra being a woman too and going against the wishes of the patriarchy. The only explanation of why she decides to fight in this war to put a queen on the Iron Throne NOW is because she doesn´t consider the other side, Alicent´s side, as family.
I think that Alicent truly doesn´t understand this loyalty between Targaryens which is the reason why she tries to offer Rhaenys everything she might wish for to side with her son´s fabricated claim to the throne. She believes that Rhaenys was adhering to the same rules and constraints placed on women by the patriarchy when she accepted the vote of the council who should be heir as Alicent herself does all her life. She tries to offer her a freedom no men in her own surroundings would probably ever grant a woman: inheritance of a titles/land and to choose a woman heir without interference.
Alicent sees herself limited to gently guide men with power away from violence and destruction to a peaceful solution. She can´t imagine a life without the limitations on herself the men around her decided upon. Targaryen women are different in the sense that they may or may not choose to go against wishes of men. They are free to decide for themselves. The only limitation they choose to place on themselves is not to harm whoever they consider family.
I know the argument she makes to young Rhaenyra in episode 2 and yet I feel my thoughts are still true especially in light of her actions in this episode. She might not even be aware of how much the Targaryen loyalty plays a role in her decision making.
Let´s take the example of last week´s Lord of the Tides question. Veamond wanted the throne for himself. I don´t think she considers him family. Let´s also imagine Viserys not coming to Rhaenyras aid and Otto and Alicent deciding the question. It was a given that Rhaenyra would lose the argument. Yes, Alicent and Otto made a deal with Vaemond beforehand but if Rhaenys would have put herself forward as the heir Otto and Alicent would probably have sided with her against Vaemond due to her and Baela´s dragons. She couldn´t have saved Rhaenyra´s claim but she would have been able to keep the title/lands/power in the Targaryen family. If there had been a possibility to save Rhaenyras claim with Otto and Ailcent I do think she would have supported Rhaenyra no matter her misgivings about her.
I quiet enjoyed Alicent trying to manipulate Rhaenys to her side only for Rhaenys to succeed in fracturing the bonds between Alicent and Otto. I loved how Rhaenys sowed division between team green and weakened their power with it.
At the end of the episode Rhaenys masterfully gave her answer to Alicent´s offer without speaking a word herself and letting Meleys do all the “talking” in the most effective and powerful way possible. She quiet effectively weakened the green side again in the eyes of the people and demonstrated that she is a dragon with a capital D (strong dragon) and only follows rules she sets herself.
- Alicent/Otto
It seems as if Alicent´s conversation with Rhaenys finally made her see her father and his machinations clearly for the first time. It enabled her to regain her power and act according to her own wishes. It is a mirror of Rhaenyra and Daemon forcing Viserys to see Otto for who he is in episode 4 and to fire him as the hand. In both cases Otto replies with “Yor Grace” in recognition that his power is dependent on others giving up their inherent power to him.
It is really sad to see Alicent finally recognizing that after all she did for her father´s ambitions in the assumption that he loves her she turned out to be only a piece on the board for him who he dispassionately pushes this or that way which ever serves his purpose better.
She doesn´t even know nor did she ever know who she was, what she wanted or how much power she had for herself. In the end having been made aware of the tricks behind the manipulations behind the “magician” Otto his old ploys don´t work on her anymore, at least for the moment.
I think despite Rhaenys words Alicent still doesn´t know what being free looks like. She might have made herself a door though instead of a window in her prison walls.
- Alicent reclaiming her power
Alicent is using the desires of men to fix them at her side/ensure their loyalty to herself (Ser Crispin/Larys). At least in that regard she discovered that she has power and uses said power to her advantage.
It is also quiet interesting how throughout the episode she tries to undermine/limit Otto´s usurption of power. At the beginning of it only vocally but not truly intervening (allwoing Otto to try to send Ser Westerling to kill Rhaenyra and her family) and after the conversation with Rhaenys more boldly.
- Otto the puppeteer of Viserys, Alicent, Aegon
In my opinion one of the the subjects of this episode is “There is no power but what the people, Viserys, Alicent, Aegon, etc. allow you to take.” Yes, the Hand has inhered power but he serves at the pleasure of the king and has to follow whatever the king decides. The positions of queen and heir have also inhered powers. Yet Viserys, Alicent abdicate their inhered powers unknowingly to Otto and let him decide on matters close to their hearts. Otto feels power vacuums and fills them ruthlessly to advance his ambitions. It is incomprehensible to him that reluctance to murder is not a weakness as Alicent points out to him. In his argument about no king ever having lived who hasn´t forfeited the lifes of a few to protect the many he puts himself above a king. In the case of Rhaenyra he takes that power onto himself to sacrifice her and her family and doesn´t even consider waiting for Aegon to be crowned and asking him about his wishes in that regard. It is in the same vein as he never accepted Viserys choosing Rhaenyra as his heir til his last breath and simply ignored the king´s wishes to install his grandson on the throne.
- Alicent´s relationship with her children
o Aegon
Aegon wants to see his mother when the twins find him. He doesn´t feel loved neither by her nor by his father. He believes that his father never changed his mind regarding his heir, that he never liked him. He asks Alicent if she loves him point blank and even though her face might express that she does she never says so. Instead she chooses to call him an imbecile. She never says that she loves him directly even though she shields him with her body from Meleys. He clearly seeks her love and approval for the past 2 episodes now, yet he mostly gets slapped, screamed at by her. She even tells him he is no son of hers.
“He is desperate to be loved but destined to be hated.” That is the way the “grown up” actor described his take on Aegon.
o Haelena
She is shrinking away from Alicent´s embrace, not wanting to be touched by her.
o Aemond
He doesn´t get the recognition from no one for all he is and all he has done to educate himself about history or philosophy or train himself to be a great warrior. He does what he sees fit no matter what his mother wants but she let it slide because he doesn´t cause trouble with his actions he rather furthers her wishes. He acts in accord with Alicent´s goals despite his misgivings. He is Alicent´s only child who seeks physical, motherly contact with her and gets it reciprocated.
- Aegon´s claiming power moment vs. Aemond claiming Vhagar
We all know or at least have an idea how claiming Vhagar changed Aemonds character. I´m truly curious how finally having huge power will change Aegon´s personality with him now having ascended the throne. It feels like the much talked Targaryen coin probably was still flipping in the air for both boys until gaining power settled the matter on which side it will finally land. I´m not holding my breath with Aegon though.
It was quiet funny to me how Aegon forced all the people who belittled him/treated him badly in his eyes to bow before him once he was crowned king. Even Otto :)))
- Erryk/Arryk (Quenstioning orders/Following orders)
Ser Erryk is the twin who knows about what Aegon is doing in his spare time. He seems to have accompanied him various times.
He leads Arryk to the fighting pit, he explains the happenings there and shows him Aegon´s bastard child. One of many he assumes. He even asks Arryk if he now finally sees what Aegon is. Ser Erryk feels an urgency to act, to prevent Aegon from becoming the king. He says: “Aegon is unfit to rule. Something must be done.”
Ser Arryk on the other hand questions why Ser Erryk cannot longer tolerate the princes behavior as he has seemingly done for years. He doesn´t feel they have agency themselves. They have sworn an oath of service til their own death. It is for the Hand to decide what is to happen.
In my opinion Ser Erryk was able to fulfill his sworn duty as he puts it as long as he was only protecting Aegon in his capacity as kin to the king. He is no longer able to blindly follow orders and he is also no longer able to put his faith into the Hand of the King to find the wisdom to prevent Aegon becoming king since he so clearly sees that might not happen.
By the way Ser Erryk is the one who knows about the girl raped by Aegon during last episode.
He is also the one who "cannot let the treachery stand" and who free Rhaenys.
- Ser Criston hypocrisy
“Every woman is the image of the Mother to be spoken of with reverence.” I laughed out loud when Ser Crispin said this sentence. What a hypocrite. Only a few episodes ago he called Rhaenyra a spider who stings her prey and sucks them dry. And even dared to proclaim she was a spoiled c-word. Is that the reverence he means when he talks about every woman being the image of the Mother??? Really??? So funny :)))
QUESTION:
I truly struggle to understand Ser Crispin´s character and motivations.
Cinema Sublime explained to me that “Ser Criston is someone who grew up with no honors or titles, but was gifted with the ability to fight well. He never grew up learning about politics or how royal houses function. So when he's thrown right into the lions den of Kings Landing, he is way over his head. ... Honor is the one thing he's been able to control his whole life.”
I can see all that. What I still don´t get is if honor is at the core of his character why does he choose to dishonor himself every chance he gets? He chose to sleep with Rhaenyra and break his oath of chastity after lengthily thinking about it. He chose to confess to Alicent. He chose to beat Joffery to death without good cause. He was ready to take Luke´s eye if not for the appearance of honor in front of the king, Ser Westerling and the crowd. Just this episode he murders a member of the king´s council.
He never faces ANY CONSEQUENCES for any of his deeds but gets promoted for them (Protector of the Queen, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard). Rhaenyra gets forced to marry Laenor as a consequence of her adventure with Daemon, Daemon gets banished for the same. Ser Crispin deepens the fraction between Alicent and Rhaenyra with his confession and even though he was as “guilty” of it as she was he faces no punishment.
Let´s also remember that Ser Crispin is the same age as Daemon (both born 81 AC in the books) and 16 years her senior. Yet even though his age (34) at the time suggest he ought to be a bit wiser than her he firmly places all guilt and blame on an 18 year old.
In this episode Ser Crispin expresses: “I know what it is to toil for something others are freely given.”
I don’t understand what he means by it. He was given the post as a kingsguard to his own surprise by Rhaenyra. He didn´t have to work for it.
If he refers to honor which he said was so very important to him then he is the one who repeatedly, at every possible fork in his road CHOOSES to dishonor himself. Every once in a while he kills someone without ANY consequences.
Does he mean having a loving wife? (Rhaenyra or Alicent) Is he insercure about his own selfworth? Does he wish for someone to value and love him for himself? So what the f is he talking about????
Does anyone have any insight into Ser Crispin?
Thank you as always! For sharing with us your thoughtful breakdown and comparison. We appreciate you! And yeah that last line Rhaenys told Alicent was incredible. Alicent has never know freedom sadly…
@@OfficialMediaKnights Thank YOU! What I love most about your reaction videos is how thoughtful you two are. You don´t just watch it on a surface level but see the depth there is to it, to the characters.
I think Game of Thrones expressed more verbally who their characters are and what their relationship to each other is. Their core was clearer to see on the surface. In this show I feel a lot of important things, dynamics, nuances to characters are mostly expressed visually. So one has to be very observant to not miss anything. It´s very easy to misjudge characters like Daemon for example if one expects to have all that is to him explained in words. Rhaenis´ core I only understood during writing my breakdown for this episode: Targaryen loyalty.
I´m still very much struggling to understand the core of certain characters, foremost Ser Crispin. I got what motivated him til before the moment he killed Jofferey: his honor. Everything after that just baffles me in regard to the why. I haven´t seen him doing anything honorable since then.
Do you have any insight in him?
I really enjoy yall reaction
Thanks man! we really appreciate how much you guys support us! You guys are freaking awesome dude 😀
@@OfficialMediaKnights i enjoy watching this show with you guys
"Beware the beast beneath the boards" when the King - his last words.. he thought he was talking to his daughter - Rhaenyra About the first Ageon Targaryen - Ageon the Conquer Targaryen.
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Criston Cole has heavy hands, he's gonna be around for a while unfortunately. An exceptional warrior (one of the few in the realm whose seen real battle) whose station has been amplified by being Kingsguard (who aren't just body guards but revered knights, who even have higher standing than some lower Lords) And he can be such an ass because he has the protection of the Queen but also very very few people could take him on in a fight - he can afford to be arrogant because of his status and lethal skill. His character is such a good commentary on how power works in a medieval like society. What stands as justice or honor depends on those who have the power to set the rule of the games. Criston has become one of those people.
I love his character because it represents how historically a lot of knights were violent and brutal bullies, who had to be reigned in by the church + nobility making them subscribe to superficial values of honor and chivalry.
I loved your comment! Thank you for being so insightful. Absolutely, Cole is definitely using all of his perks but unfortunate not for good…he is becoming more of a…well like you said bully. I wonder if we’re gonna see more of an arc with him or if he’ll stay like this for a while. But yeah definitely a nice commentary on how things were back in the day 😃
@@OfficialMediaKnights Ya'll are great reactors! It's always nice to see your engagement in the comment section
Thanks so much for the appreciation, honestly, we do try to get to everyone because it's thanks to y'all we got this far!
I don't understand why people be chearing for what team green is doing and then be chearing when they get attacked. Alicent is so sneaky. I don't like the fact she be acting sweet "i don't want to kill her" but let's usurpe her throne and make sure things goes left. That's so crazy to me. Contradiction
That's the point! you can't really take sides...they're all horrible people man 😂 but if you gotta choose you gotta choose you know?
@@OfficialMediaKnights i'm team black tho. Haha
Ahah, same here 🤣
One thing that makes me soo angry when watching GoT and HotD is how common people are usually treated. They pay taxes and see how they rise during wartime, they have to go to battle or see a beloved one going to battle and praying for their survival, they are crashed like flies or burned like BBQ... Not so different from the society I live in to be honest. And yet, what many people consider "this is good material for a good book/saga/movie/show" is people with high social status (aka the protagonists) fighting other people with or without social status (usually the villains, and usually there is the protagonist who is a good brave king, and then the villain, but I am quite satisfied im this aspect with George RR Martin). Like, for me monarchy and nobility and bourgeoisie are so idealized in our culture still today that, even though they may introduce us diverse characters within a story, it is usually about people that have money. How many times have we seen in Hollywood movies that the protagonists live in a cool quite big house (not an apartment or flat, whatever you call it), with a cool kitchen and living room, sometimes a pool, with a cool garden, all of their property marked by hences? And we take that for normal.
I hate when people say I must choose Green or Black, that if you don't you don't feel attached to the characters. I feel attached to some characters for how well I think they are built, even though I get along more or less with them. I like Alicent's character because she is complex and how Olivia portrays her, but I do not agree with many of her actions. I like how they built Viserys and I quite got along with him (not completely but actually he is my fav. character from HoTD). But in politics, no no. Neither Blacks nor Greens for me. I am not a fan of monarchy either way, although I do believe tyrants exist in every regime.
I prefer democracy based on TRUE meritocracy (not that lie that we are told about, for example, the American Dream, where if you want something, you can achieve it, that your socioeconomic status by birth has nothing to say). Of course that is quite a mission to achieve, but still, neither Team Black or Team Green.
Westeros is sometimes a reflection on our own society. So yeah, absolutely. There will be unfairness, there will be bitterness and the good guys almost never win. Part of the charm of GOT is the fact that it can be so raw in it's portrayal to the point that it makes you reflect on your own society. I think that when art sends a message like that and has you thinking it's done it's job. Thank you so much for commenting!
@@OfficialMediaKnights Yes, but I personally want to take into account that they show all the unfairness mainly from the point of view of nobility (safe one or another character, or some mini plots or sequences). I mean, how cool would it be for common people to have the chance to explain what it is to be a commoner, instead of almost always hearing from nobility what is is to be a commoner (they are not wrong sometimes, but still)?
@@OfficialMediaKnights And I still think our culture idolizes people with high status when telling a story. Even though there are good, evil, gray characters in that story, the theme is often about rich people , with fancy suburban detached houses nowadays.
@@asoiafan That is actually very true! We rarely hear from the common folk. Maybe during the next season the writers take this into consideration and have us hear some dialogue here and there regarding the events from season 1 and how this has impacted their society.
@@OfficialMediaKnights in GoT s2, when people rebelled against Joffrey in Flea Bottom street... Ok, I get that they are angry but there is a longer process to explain why and how they got so angry, why and how the war affected them, and why they got to break a guy's arm. I personally don't need Tyrion explaining that they are angry, it would have been great if we'd have seen as much of commoners as nobility, and not a few glimpses of how commoners live so that they might fulfill a nobility character's plot.
1 episode to go after this ... as good as the 😲was here, I expect ep10 is gonna be more like 😮
I love this show and I need that supernatural shirt lol
So we finally saw the beast below the boards. But was it the dragon? Or the spy network of the White Worm?
13:00 They locked her in her rooms, not out of the hall.
Alicent finally seeing her father for what he is but its a lot too late all she could do now is stand up for herself and do whats right for her instead of him calling all the shots even tho she is misguided. Cristen cole what a simp he slept with Rhaenyra and look how he turned out imagine if he slept with Alicent how he would get , she should give him a piece i mean Larys getting a little foot action , she still not as righteous wth her seven point star. Otto so power hungry and accustom with it over the years the not hesitate to kill Rhaenyra and Daemon . High Towers with low class like Helaena said people fighting for what is not theirs
Yeah happy for Alicent honestly...she's been a victim of her fathers wishes throughout her entire life...hopefully now we get to see more of the real Alicent and her motives. Daemon is gonna flip out when he learns about what Otto was plotting 😂
@The Media Knights what’s your favourite and second favourite part of my new prediction
Rhaenys lowkey killed many innocents for a power move….. it was badass but it was not in good taste.
Honestly at this point everything is blowing out of proportion. Both sides are great at what they do- technically Viserys should have named daemon. Tradition wise once born Aegon should be king just as Jon snow should have been… follow tradition or be ready for war.
I have grown to respect Alicent and the greens. Everyone are just sadly prone to their circumstances and situations. Even such as Aegon- both teams should have put aside the blood and honestly considered what the realm would accept.
Thanks for the comment! Definitely have grown to appreciate Alicent's character, they've finally managed to add more layers to her character, which makes her more interesting to watch
There are definitely many things that both sides should have done differently and let calmer minds prevail but, alas, here we are.
Snow was a bastard though ..As for the rest you have no idea how monarchies work go read up on it. In short, what the King says goes
@@drjulietburke Lol Jon is not a bastard his parents were both married. I’d suggest you read up on it.
What the king says goes, but my point was he should not have done what he did breaking hundreds of years of tradition- don’t try and discredit peoples comments in a condescending way, it’s not intelligent. Do it with facts at least.
@@LS13. Not in the books they weren't. Not yet anyway so don't tell me to read when you meant the show buddy. Now you go and read about monarchies
@@LS13. well good cause you use a lot of words and say nothing. bye bye now
@The Media Knights I think mentioned dragon riders should get a pin of their dragon so people can identify them from normal people
They were trying to close the doors because those doors were made specifically to keep dragons in from escaping
That makes a lot of sense! No wonder....they were really trying their best to prevent Rhaenys from fleeing huh?
No? Otto was literally saying open the doors, but the guard couldn’t hear him. The pit is just a stable, meleys is like the 3rd or 4th largest dragon, she could of easily broken out of the pit.
@@jcb6731 meleys is also the fastest dragon alive so far so it wouldn’t have been a problem for her escaping the dragon pit
@@uzairtiwana1127 you’re damn right the red queen is the swiftest
your shirt😂😂😂😂😂, cracked me up proper😂😂
Rhaenys hasn't read Fire & Blood to know the horrors to come. So her pre-emptively killing all her own family would've been OP. Having said that, the Rhaenys bit was to give audience a 'send home happy' moment which wasn't necessary. The coronation was fantastic in itself. But gawd forbid the 'bad guys' are on top in 1 episode. Those who think lowborns of KL have any obligation to support Rhaenyra you're in for big disappointments. Aegon claims his birthright from popular King Jaehaerys' Great Council stating king's firstborn male son to be the next king. Viserys himself won it that way over a female. Best part was the politics, less dragons the better. As for despairing mom alicent, it does highlight her humanity more than her colder iteration of actual green council. A well needed change imo, they've constantly shown subtleties in her character which the audience wilfully ignores since we're watching this as a team sport and gotta cheer team lovable manipulative dad! Show alicent has been better imo. Her being more humanized shouldn't be an issue unless one wants the show to remain grotesquely tilted towards Black (Laenor not being killed).
Thanks so much for the comment! It's so interesting to hear that there are some strong differences between book Alicent and show Alicent - honestly, we truly loved her performance and iteration in this episode. She felt real - she had her strengths, her vulnerabilities, her abandon of morals to receive information yet her fierce love for her son in the way she shielded Aegon... We LOVE seeing different shades of these characters because that's what makes them feel real! People do tend to polarize themselves rooting for one team over the other, when to me it's much more about the downfall of humanity, shifts in loyalty and the lengths people are willing to go, or forced to go to attain their desires. It's much more complex than Team Green vs Team Black!
36:32 it kinda looks like Aemond is very protective of Haelena. She was also looking at him when Aegon was being crowned. And at the beginning Aemond came to her room as soon as he found out about their father’s death. Is something going on with them? In episode 6 he looked more than happy to fulfill his duty if Alicent betrothed them… hmmm. Am I crazy? What do you guys think?
Honestly I don't know.... We just assumed it was a brother being a brother but in this world you just never know anymore haha
I’d say he’s being a brother - feeling protective and sorry due to her having a harder life due to her “madness” in a sense he can relate to being bullied and made fun of etc.
Omg guys!!! There are TikTok’s about the scene when Alicent went in Haelena’s room to ask about Aegon and apparently after Otto exits the room and Alicent said “father” the twins are mumbling “Aemond” 🤯🤯🤯🤯 now either 1. they have some kind of dreams and know he’s about to enter the room, 2. Aemond spends so much time with them that they consider him their father or 3. He is actually the father of Haelena’s twins…. I don’t know how to take this but for sure Haelena deserves someone better than Aegon
It impossible that the twins are from Aemond since Aemond was 11 when they were born. A 10-11 years olds generally doesn’t produce sperm. (Sorry, I am very late)
@The Media Knights what’s your favourite of my new prediction?
It looks like Wormtongue is a little more creepier than I thought. lol.
For real dude…that scene was so uncomfortable 😂 but all good! Alicent is only doing the gods wishes 😂😂
@@OfficialMediaKnights Can;t believe that the finale is almost here! I'm excited about it, but a little sad also. I'll miss watching it till the next season. Oh, and since this will be the finale, I'm expecting multiple deaths... lol
I know, man, how did we get here so fast?! Definitely gonna miss reacting to this!
Lord Beesbury talked too much, underestimating the ruthlessness of the Greens conspirators.
This is the best show ever!! 💪
What a strong first season, it's amazing!!!
THA! BEAST was beneath the boards for real!!!.....Rhaenys is my fav character, like I admired and liked Jon Snow in GoT, because Jon stood for everything good. Jon never lied or cheated and only killed in battle or otherwise, when necessary. Then it all changed for me, when she broke in through the floor on her dragon and killed innocent people, while on her dragon. She had all the greens on that stage should have just roasted them all, DRACARYS! but show must go on LOL!.
haha For real! Definitely wasn't expecting that to happen during that scene...I thought it was a wrap for the episode and we were gonna cut to black but no! What a tense moment we definitely thought one of the greens was gonna go. Ooff things are getting spicy! 🌶️🔥
14:38 she can’t just call her dragon. I think dragons are kept somehow in there so that they won’t be able to fly away whenever they want. Maybe in chains but i’m not sure
Chains.
yeah, definitely some strong chains!
Yeah they are parked underground xD
@The Media Knights I think there’s something going to happen between Aegon and Aemond
That's definitely a fair assumption - tension seems to be brewing, especially seeing that Aemond has expressed his interest in the throne...
Hey Sis, I see you in your Supernatural hoodie ❤️🔥💯 😀
Omg you noticed!!! Absolutely adore that show!!
@@OfficialMediaKnights Ditto! Don't get me started...lmao
Ahah saaaame!! What was your favorite season??
@@OfficialMediaKnights Well, that's a loaded question, lol. I have to say 4, but I go back and forth btwn 4 and 5. What about you?
Ohhh same here!!! Season 4 was so masterfully crafted, but Season 5 had such high stakes, the feels and the action - so definitely also going back snd forth on that haha.
Hotd season 1 what a blast. Whew
It’s been an amazing show so far! Definitely one of our favorite watches this year 😃
@The Media Knights if there’s going to be a argument between Alicent and Aemond this is how it’s going to play out:
(Alicent was sitting by the fire warning herself Aemond comes in puts his sword down and sits beside her)
Aemond: why did you give my brother the crown?
Alicent: because he’s the first born son of Viserys that’s how monarchy goes
Aemond: are you not aware of the dark path my brother has taken Alicent because I’ve seen it with my one good eye
Alicent: Aemond don’t let jealousy consume you it’ll be your time next
Aemond: I’m not jealous I’m just saying you’ve made a not very wise decision
Alicent: well he said Viserys didn’t want him to be king…
Aemond: SO HE SHOULD HAVE!
Alicent: how DARE you speak to your mother like that Aemond Targaryen a matter of fact I’ve told you before about yelling
Aemond: Aegon drinks until he gets drunk and passes out n£ked in bed, he goes to br£thels to plunge his sword into women those actions aren’t king worthy those actions are worthy of a fowl alcohol abusing low life scoundrel than a king
Alicent: now you’re not making much sense now
(Aemond leans over to Alicent taking off his eye patch showing Alicent his scar making her question her choice)
Aemond: putting Aegon on the throne is the worst mistake ever you’ll p!ss off the 7 kingdoms and shattering the peace between them. Peace that King Viserys had for HIS WHOLE INTIRE LIFE until his death
Alicent (sobbing): AEMOND!
Aemond: now you see Alicent. The wise Cricket cowers under a rock while the lizard hunts nearby. Putting Aegon on the throne is you being the dumb cricket that spread his wings and flees the scene gets caught and eaten by the lizard and people are going to end up looking like me
Alicent (sobbing) I don’t know what to say
Aemond: I’m going to clean myself up and go to bed I’ll let you sit by the fire and think about your choice you made
(Alicent puts her head in her hands and cries Aegon enters the room)
Aegon: Alicent what happened?
Alicent (sobbing): your brother Aemond your grace
(A angry Aegon stormed up to Aemond’s room and entered)
Aegon: what did you do Aemond
Aemond: oh yes that I said what I needed to say
(Aegon pins Aemond to the wall and holds Blackfyre to him)
Aegon: How DARE you speak to Alicent like that brother
(He pushes Blackfyre into Aemond’s neck)
Aemond: see you’re not fit to be king you can’t spill blood of a enemy in war nor your own brother’s Aegon. Drop Blackfyre and we’ll negotiate
(Aegon started to cry and shake then he dropped Blackfyre)
Aegon (sobbing) you’re right brother you’re definitely right
Aemond: just keep going along with it until we figure something out
Aegon: Thanks also I’ve got something I’ve should of given to you when you were a boy
(He pulls out a dragon shaped cloak pin)
Aemond: what is it?
Aegon: it’s Vhagar made from pure Velarion metal. I’ve should of given it to you when you first claimed her
(The two hugged)
Aemond (sobbing): thank you
Note: this is a prediction not a spoiler
I can definitely see Aegon struggling to be King since he didn’t want it! But I don’t know if he’s gonna have that much trouble killing people though! Haha my favorite part was the fact they made a Vhagar shaped pin and that the 2 siblings and the second favorite the fact that the 2 siblings are working together through this 😄
@@OfficialMediaKnights Aegon has a point Aemond should of got a dragon pin when he claimed Vhagar a matter of fact all the dragon riders should of
And “the wise cricket cowers under the rock while the lizard hunts nearby. Putting Aegon on the throne is you being the dumb cricket that spreads his wings and flees the scene gets caught and eaten by the lizard and people are going to end up like me” that’s my favourite part because what Aemond means is Alicent can’t always run from danger she has “the lizard s” which are Rhaenyra and Rhaenys to deal with and not just that she also has to deal with Aegon’s unruliness too. Aegon on the other hand was right Viserys never wanted him to sit on the throne he mentions this to Alicent in the carriage ride scene and his fight with Aemond scene
Another thing I want to point out is when Alicent’s daughter said “beware the beast under the boards” she was talking about Meleys coming out of the ground of the dragon pit with Rhaenys on her back
22:07 Her lines are good
They're phenomenal, the writing on this show is spectacular!
Slow episode ??? The intensity and suspense was sky high.
Yes!! Let's rephrase - this episode was a slow-burn, but definitely wrought with tension!! Hope that clarifies things!
I am kinda torn about this episode ending was very senseless along with many plot holes they omitted important scenes just for a bit of fan service which will amount to nothing aside from Hey i am back🤣
You're saying the omitted important scenes? I'm assuming you're talking about the way the book depicted the events that were shown during this episode. If that is the case, that kinda sucks for book readers! often times doing an adaptation you have to pick and choose your battles because the run time is just enough to tell the story you need to tell so we kinda loose the details a little.
@@OfficialMediaKnights yeah like aegon was supposed to circle around the city with sunfyre which was important because his bond with sunfyre is one of his few redeeming qualities also what rhaenys did will have major consequences and i am not talking about not killing the greens also the dragons cannot just break out of the pits even if they do their rider will suffer heavy damage which she didn't plus why the guards were closing the door with the dragon inside??
Ikr the final scene was unnecessary and served literally nothing
You guys are great, just really hate the writing of the episode. Ep 3: Otto gets Alicent to ask Viserys to change the succession. Ep 5: Otto tells Alicent to prepare Aegon to be king. Ep 6: Alicent slaps Aegon and tells him he will one day be king. Ep 7: Aegon and Aemond discuss Helaena as future queen. Ep 7: Otto to Alicent, you have what it takes to win the game. We will prevail. Ep 9: Alicent, “Wait what you were going to make Aegon king?!” The writing was so well set up for her turn of dominance and eroded it this episode. Isn’t it funny too, telling Knight of Kings guard to go kill Rhaenyra and Daemon and Dragonstone, “quick and clean.” As if anyone could walk up into Dragonstone. Caraxes would burn them on sight. I keep trying to make it make sense. I want to love the episode.
It’s a shame since it’s the only episode that dwells into the greens train of thought and the crowning of Aegon. Hopefully in season 2 we spend more time with the greens side to understand their points of view even further 😃
@@OfficialMediaKnights ‼️100% hope so! Since there are no time jumps. Maybe that is where is went wrong with her. So Maybe they can fix Alicent🤷🏼♀️
It’s not the great sept, it’s the dragon pit.
I don't think we were calling the dragon pit "the sept" we merely drew a comparison to that episode 😀
Great reaction you two like always.
And might I add - regarding Alicent's gorgeous tootsies, Mmmmmmm I'd tell her _anything_ for a gander at those babies haha 😉😆💕
Thanks for the support 😂😂
Hmmm - regarding Aemond on the throne
Keep watching
Book reader here
Hmmm, ominous! Can't wait to see what else is gonna come up for Aemond!
your reactions are like mine
So nice to hear others that react the same way! haha 😃
Cregan Stark will not have this for sure.
The ep was great in what it was supposed to do, give the new monarch time to shine. The Aegon actor gave a top tier performance with his mood swings, establishing Aegon as far less one dimensional than Joffrey. Finally a proper crowning in Got-verse. A Green heavy political intrigue focused ep, with lots of great visuals & ethical quandary. Gonna be a Microwave Attention Span Challenge for the “only here for Daemon making g0ofy great value Patrick Bateman faces" crowd. Good. Rhaenys isn't aware of the book. She can't imagine the length of depravity & slow escalation both sides will go to, to kill her own kin at this point. That's Freefolk brain gigachad logic. Ned & Jaime coulda killed each other in the throne room & there's no War of Five Kings. But tbf I wouldn't have done the Rhaenys “good guy gets triumphal moment” pandering & kept it fully Green. I prefer moral dilemma of misguided mother Alicent over ruthless ambitious fire & blood council Alicent. The nuance of her has been lost on a viewership wanting her to fit the mold of a Disney evil queen. So this is a nudge in the right direction, that things are lot more grey from here. In general Aegon & Alicent have been more compelling than the gas light goodie two shoes way Rhaenyra's been portrayed so far. If ur angry at the smallfolk for not supporting Slay Queen...boy do I got bad news! This is the copium ep for Girlboss lovers.
We agree in the fact that they portrayed most of the greens far more fairly in this ep than in most of the others! It's something we (even as team black) have been asking for. We love a story that is not easy to swallow and without a clear hero. So this episode was one that we truly enjoyed! Really got to know more sides of Alicent that we liked far more than what was previously showed. Like you said, it is a step in the right direction. Now they just gotta do the same with the rest of the Greens. For now its Alicent and Aemond for us!
The score is similar to the music of episode 10 of season 6 of GOT (when Cersei was getting ready to blow up some people) and it was deliberate.
edit: Why you feel bad for a racist? come on
Right?! We picked up on that too, actually mentioned it in our commentary!
Let's clarify real quick- obviously we don't feel bad for a rapist - it was more of an immediate and instinctive response to the actor's talent to evoke that feeling of fear and forlornness as he was walking down that hall towards his coronation - the show is meant to make us feel conflicted, and I believe they've done that in a fantastic way. Hope this kinda clarifies things!
@@OfficialMediaKnights yeah it does. Sorry I think my comment came off as harsh but it wasn't. I mean if he wasn't a rapist I'd be a fan lol. I liked him when he was younger
No no I get you, don't worry, we're all super passionate about this show 🤣🤣🤣 To be fair, there's a lot of violence towards women in the Game of Thrones world, at least in this show it's not so graphic anymore. In the og GOT show there was a r*pe scene every other episode and it honestly became a chore and hard to watch. In HOTD it doesn't seem to glorify or even sexualize that type of violence anymore, which is kind of a win, I guess 🤣
@The Media Knights these are the dragons and riders in the show:
Syrax = Rhaenyra
Caraxes = Daemon
Vhagar = Aemond/Laena (deceased)
Seasmoke = Sur Laenor Velarion (whereabouts unknown) Jacaerys? Lucaerys?
Meleys = Lady Rhaenys
Meraxes = Aegon
absolutely loving the dragons so far man!
Jacaerys dragon is Vermax and Lucerys is Arrax
@@kaylawoods6612 I put a ? for Jace and Luc thinking they are going to claim Seasmoke from Laenor
@@DylanZombie they already have dragons so they can’t claim Seasmoke
Meraxes = Aegon
What? Her rider was Rhaenys the 1st, sister-wife of Aegon I.
Aegon the rapist rides Sunfyre
This episode is a massive red flag for me, basing the conflict for Alicent on a misunderstanding just to justify her actions. Rhaenys not killing the Greens, the creepy feet scene....
In their efforts to make the women characters look good, they made them look dumb.
The writer of this episode said that, they added the dragon scene cuz it 'looked awsome' and that 'civilians don't matter'
At least I discovered your channel, awsome work guys 🔥❤️
Thanks so much for the comment, first of all, we're so glad you enjoyed our content! Honestly, can totally relate to where you're coming from. There's some writing- decisions that feel a bit out of left field, but as we are non-readers of the book we don't experience the confusion actual readers have been mentioning, so we just kinda go along with it. The whole foot scene was.. interesting, to say the least lol, not sure why that was written in the way it was - Larys was already creepy enough, not sure why they gotta make 'foot-fetish' a part of his character where it feels a whole lot like kink-shaming - and how Alicent clearly doesn't want to do it, but she had to endure because she needs the information he has.. eh, there could have been other ways.
To be fair, Rhaenys' dragon moment was pretty badass - but if there's anything we've learned, it's that no matter what the monarchy/nobility does, it's always the common-folk that pay the price. That aspect is a little frustrating to be fair.
Raenys she just didn't burn them all because then and not and having dragon dance would also be betrayal because it's family and this character wouldn't do that isn't her doing that kind of thing Raenys can't start the war because it's not hers but between Rhanyra and Alice if she did it would be wrong
The only thing I don't like about this series is that it is making certain moments the innocent alice but she is not in the book and a bad person who wants rhaenyra death
Thanks for the comment and the explanation! Actually we've been hearing a lot that Alicent's character was not quite like this in the books, especially in regards to the entire usurping process. It is my assumption that they made her a little more complex so that it'd be harder just to root for Team Black, which to be fair, does make for entertaining tv. But I can totally see how that'd be frustrating!
"She's a better person". Well, actually, she isn't. She just killed 100-200 people and, at the same time, Aegon it just an internally wounded spoiled kid (Viserys' and Alicent's total fault).
just a wounded kid? we forgetting he is a rapist or that doesn't count for buddy?
@@drjulietburke I wrote "spoiled kid". I guess it explains why he raped the maiden. Besides, he didn't kill her - Rhaenys, at the same time, killed countless innocent people.
@@valeriydorohov5883 yeah had a feeling you give rape a pass. we done here incel
@@drjulietburke i'm not really interested in your opinion) good luck to you!
@@valeriydorohov5883 fudge off incel
Well Rhaenys killed so many civilians which I don't agree with at all
I do like that Alicent was against murdering Rhaenerya & Daemon and their children. Rhaenerya is my Queen & was Viserys choice until his last breath. This whole situation is fucked up. Rhaenys saw history repeating itself with the council of men giving the crown to a male instead of the first born or the direct descendant of the king. She was the former king Jaehaerys granddaughter and should have been the heir & the Queen a long time ago.
Long live King Aegon, Second of His Name
Alicent was amazingly written this episode! We have been asking for an episode from the Greens perspective so we could start to empathize more with them as well. And honestly they knocked it out of the park with this one! It was way better than what I had envisioned. Absolutely loving Olivia Cooke in this! Also yeah...Rhaenyra shoud've gotten it since that is what the King stated. But now this whole situation got waay more complicated with Visery's words being misinterpreted. We're happy Rhaenys got to escape with her Dragon because honestly we didn't feel like she would be safe for much longer if she stayed.
@@OfficialMediaKnights Yeah exactly. She can travel faster to Dragonstone and warn the rightful heir and her family since her dragon is known to be the fastest!
If they wanted us to empathise with the greens, they could've not made Aegon a rapist and watcher of child deathmatches, and just a regular sleazeball like he is in the books.
Bro. It’s house of the dragon or hot D don’t call it got lol
What are you talking about? Give me some context my dude
Lmao call aegon homelander but cheer rhaenys klling smallfolk like todd cheered homelander killing.
I was making a remark of how the way he looked at people realizing he is loved by everyone reminded me of that one scene from The Boys. Not calling him homelander bro chill 😂
She was escaping on her dragon. There was no other way but up.
There was another way out lol stop justifying this!!!!
@@israelpadilla2008 there wasn't actually the real exist was blocked she'd have to go through the crowd regardless .
@@israelpadilla2008 no there isn’t, meleys is is the 3rd or 4th largest dragon. She can only get into the pit from the large open doors in the front. Other smaller and way younger dragons like Syrax, are able to get through smaller entrances like we saw in the first episode.
CRİSTON COLE İS THE BEST! Obey !
Ahah uhhh yeah, that's gonna be a no from us 🤣🤣🤣
@@OfficialMediaKnights will be nice to see tears.
Sir incel . I can't stand him.
Plz explain to me how a man that kills witout order keeps getting away with it and is part of the king's guard. I can't...
He is protected by the Queen so anything goes by the looks of it. Really not liking him at all as well 😂
@@OfficialMediaKnights makes sense. That would be the only explanation.
They had fewer people on their side. The greens cannot lose anyone. Especially one that has combat experience as well.
@@sultanacatalina465 he fits perfectly with them , ngl.
It certainly was a 'beggars can't be choosers' moment in regards to Crispin. As non-readers of the source material, I do have to say I'm disappointed with the direction his character took - we were rooting for him in the beginning, being common-born and trying to make it in this world made him that underdog - now he's just a d**k 🤣
She is the better person??? She clearly killed hundreds of innocent small folk to make her boss girl entrance lol how is that justified??
No, she was escaping from under the pit, from where her dragon was stabled. The entrances were no doubt heavily guarded, so she no way out but up.
@@mamaseesa3122 lol so go thru the side where the innocents are right? Listen to yourself lol she has a dragon!!!! Heavily guarded???
She didn't kill the greens right then and there even though she could've. I'm pretty sure I was referring to that. They're both horrible people towards the small folk so that's pretty much balanced scales on my book
@@israelpadilla2008 if I try to explain my point better, I might spoil some things. From what I know, my opinion is she had no better option.
@@OfficialMediaKnights I just know “if” the greens did something like that people would lose their minds and never let that go lol but also come on is she killed all of them there wouldn’t be a second season 😂 ofc she wasn’t going to kill them there. I understand why they are making the show pro-black team because they need a “protagonist” for the show. Like all the bad qualities from Aegon are kept in the show while Rhaenyra’s are not. But hopefully they make it more even because thats what made the book so compelling. Everyone was grey. And I honestly dont think you are suppose to be with either team.
How can people like Rheanyra? Her character is boring and cliche + the actress who plays Rheanyra is awful.
19:19 alicent is such a hypocrite
alicent to rhaenys: you should've been queen, the iron throne was yours by blood and by temperament
(she says this while conspiring to usurp the throne from rhaenyra the rightful heir by blood and by temperament)
Just wait, you'll hate aemond in the next episode 🥲
oh boy!....Cant wait but also kinda scared now haha
@@OfficialMediaKnights I'm dreading next weeks ep as i have read the bks and i know what's coming, and it'll be a rollercoaster ride 😭
Oh noooo, don't tell us this!!!
@@OfficialMediaKnights i won't, promise 🥲
Yeah, It sucks seeing that everyone loves him when I know what is about to happen :/
drop ur insta acc