UGH! The New 2023 BMW 760i Is the Most Frustrating Car I've Driven All Year! | Grumpy Guy Review
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2023
- ( www.alltfl.com/) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! There's no denying the redesigned 2023 BMW 760i is packed to the gills with modern technology and features. This is the most technologically advanced 7 Series yet...but all that tech can make it extremely frustrating to live with - at least if you're a grumpy guy like Roman. He covers all the reasons (including beyond the tech) why the new 7 Series is the most frustrating car he's driven this year.
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If you're going for grumpy, give Nathan a paycut and then assign him to review it. That'll achieve maximum grump.
A dual grumpy review would be hilarious for this car.
What a mess this thing is.
I am a 43 year old mechanic and this is the show I want. It is relaxing to let someone else do the complaining. Cheers.
They are trying to do way too much...and suck at every last thing.
We went from 'ipad stuck on the dash' to 'the whole dash is an ipad' real quick. There are a ton of new cars like this and they're all horrible you have to take your eyes off the road for 15 seconds to do anything
This car is so overboard...
They overdid the touch controls, and the crystal stuff is very ugly.
For once I actually have to give Tesla credit, because this is not the way to make a car "touch".
Less than 5 years is somehow all it took for regular dashboards to disappear in favor for screen...wth
NK BEV Concept has NO dash, info bar & entire windshield HUD. i7 has autonomous cruise, parking & sensors to alert if driver's eyes taken off road for too long.
Deja vu all over again, E65 Bangle butt 745i made journos' balding heads explode 20 yrs. ago with iDrive, fob>key & electronic column mounted automatic. 1st time they outsold Mercedes & have doubled volume since. Here we have more of the same as 200 trolls comment on 6 figure stretch limo they haven't seen, are not the intended market for & will never own, drive or ride in. No wonder you're grumpy. Autonomous cruise means you don't have to take your eyes off the road & iPad in rear seat armrests, along with executive stretch lounge seating & home theatre, which you don't have to worry about because they're options & you can't afford list.
@@volvo09 So don't buy 1, enjoy ur Etch A Sketch & Communist Chinese 4 cy. Geely Trojan horse.
"You thought that the Chris Bangle 7 series was ugly, check this out" - BMW design team.
Uglier snout brought to you by DOMAGOJ DUKEC...
😂😂❤ true
Thank you for honesty. This car is just too much
I'm a old school car guy ..the new car market is crazy way to many screens and touch sensitive systems...just give me a key and some knobs to turn lol
Roman if you were shown how everything works you’d love the car. Just because you’re not up on technology on this car doesn’t make this a bad car.
Old man screaming at the sun😅😅. Sounds like me! Great vid Roman, made my morning. Bring back manuals and roll up windows😂.
I couldn't agree more!
With all of the touch screen and random buttons it is more like destracted driving.
Theoretically, one is supposed to have it all sorted out before they hit the road. And only operate the basic stuff at stop lights or obviously when not in traffic. IF you are stupid enough to try and operate all the menus/controls in traffic and get in an accident, you deserve to have your license taken away. When a heater was put in a car then later a radio distractions were a plenty. And it was said back then it would be too easy to take your eyes off the road for those 2 simple conveniences. Voice activation is the way to go now. It is no more distracting that having a conversation with someone in the vehicle.
could you imagine being a lawyer signing off on that design
Disappointing when a lawyer finds to spend there money on one of those things, when to a full sense of laws they have to be making $680'000/year just to live in an average house and pay off a bill for a Honda civic, taxes associated places they should spend money including paying for things in community structure under various reasoning's. localized stature to pay rates under privatized estate inflation. costs 100 times more only being 10% bigger, a different shape of phallic she catches... 40 years from now those will be everywhere same as carburetors went to fuel injection... 99.9998% of germs cant "a ford" to start. the engineer... B.S. they do just to be allowed to think dog thoughts, good boy... now get it out... stuck with there own creation... and she bites back as there just... mutts.
Automatic doors would definitely annoy the hell out of me.
Almost everything about this car would annoy me....
It's unnecessary automation.
Tailgates and trunks can be beneficial, but a door?
@@volvo09 I have an automated tailgate on my truck which I thought would be stupid but I actually like it.
Yea I can see them opening and slamming into the car parked next to it
@@ohioguy4326 Sensors.
Love it. Not all cars are rainbows and gumdrops. The car companies need to be told the truth.
Where’s a 2004 Buick Lesabre when you need one?
I can appreciate the grumpy guy review. Thanks for continuing to be innovative with your car reviews to help viewers.
I just cant get onboard with the new bmw look. Looks too similar to the pig thing on angry birds😮💨
What makes this review honest is most who have reviewed BMWs talk about design, secondary the engine. Roman discusses practicality and driver ergonomics. As one who spends 98% of my time inside, DRIVING a car, this review is refreshing.
Seems strange to me because with the tech overload for people that can afford the 760i are from a certain demographic. My in-laws don't even have internet at their house or a computer.
I like grumpy guy! I’m also a grumpy guy when it comes to this car.🤝
They should have told you there is a minimum IQ requirement for ownership - not the same class as a Hellcat or Ram pickup - you should stick with those...
love the grumpy guy review!! looking forward to more of them 😀
Not good !!!!!😓
Awesome review
Roman, you've read my comments for years. You should hire me to do grumpy guy reviews. I'm 50 and very grumpy.
I drove, I bought and I love it. Definitely in the demographic you described, but I actually enjoy exploring the various settings and playing around with things until I get it set the way I want the car to behave. Doesn’t take long and does t make me grumpy 😀 Admit I am a BMW fan boy and this is my second 7 series along with a few M’s. Did enjoy watching this video.
Just FYI, to drive, press Start Stop pull lever back to drive forward or forwards to reverse.
When Parking, in drive or reverse. Just hit Start Stop. Car goes to Park and E brake is applied.
That's the way I do it, and I didn't read the manual. I feel it is intuitive. I agree with most of your other points.
Good video. 😊
It's all that shiny looking plastic blinding the hell out of you for me I'm not even going to talk about the exterior 🤦
Love the “Grumpy Guy Review” format! I think manufacturers are all trying to “out-Tesla Tesla” these days and I’m not sure it’s successful in most cases. I just got a Tesla Model S and I find most of the technology to be useful and easy to use - although I did watch a number of videos before pick-up and had a Model Y previously. I also got the round steering wheel - although I think a yoke would be pretty cool with progressive steering. I did check out the current BMW line-up and they seem to have gone fairly hard to “different” rather than better. You definitely need to keep doing these reviews and get the manufacturers to start focusing on tech that improves rather than tech that just makes things different from the old model. I’m guessing your views (and age and experience) are a lot more like those of the actual buyers of cars like the 760i than many of the people making the decisions on what fancy (but useless) tech to add. Well done. Looking forward to more of these.
I love the new "Grumpy Guy" review. What a great idea! Keep 'em coming!
This video maked me love and appreciate my 2020 Porsche Macan S more than ever. It's the perfect blend of modern technology and well designed, proven and easy to use mechanical switch gear. I wouldn't buy this car (I'm in the age group this car is probably aimimg at) if it cost half as much. The last BMW I owned was a 1978 733i. Excellent review grumpy guy !
I drove a 61 Caddy when the Wonderbar was impressive tech....I still miss that thing.
Roman put it well. The primary demographic for this car isn't a 26 year old tech bro. It's going to be people in their 50s, 60s and up. People who've been driving for decades and are simply used to certain functionalities. If someone who reviews cars for a living doesn't find things intuitive, I doubt the 60 year old doctor or the 75 year old retired lawyer will. The whole point of a flagship luxury product like a 7 series should be to make your life easier, isolate you from the outside world and all its problems, make you feel nice. It shouldn't treat you like a child, haranguing you with annoying beeps and chimes, or confuse you as to how to find the right HVAC setting or make changing your music complicated. I feel all that was lost on whomever they let design the 7 series. They're trying to show they can compete with Tesla or something, rather than focusing on making the best luxury car.
I think the clear stuff lights up at night. Might look cool at night, looks stupid during the day. I think the main reason companies are moving controls to the screen is cost. fewer buttons costs less. If they can build the car for less, charge more because it's more "high tech", the shareholders laugh all the way to the bank.
AMEN!!! 110% right on the money Roman!!! This BMW is WAY overly complex & OVER engineered! I often think we've lost sight why some cars & trucks used to be great, back when some were simple or "right sized" and not too big either. Now admittedly, there's been times in the past when you (Roman) has frustrated me with not reading at least a lil' bit of a manual for a specific feature, where Tommy saves the day w/knowledge as a breath of fresh air (love you both though Roman & Tommy). 🥰 And also admittedly, I'm in my early 50's... and was a former Apple Sales Mgr. & Level III Tech, Operations & Executive Director who loves tech and has worked w/every Mac since 1984... and I still have business owners and retired CEOs clients who have followed me (some for almost 30 years now that I'm a consultant). And I can say without the slightest hesitation that 99.99% of my clients would HATE this car. The people I know want things that work WITHOUT "complex tech". So count me in as a grumpy old man ready to shake my cain on the front porch to tell the kids to get off my lawn. ha ha 🤣😇
This kind of reminds me when our kids were growing up... we bought a Nintendo instead of a Xbox or Playstation. Why does that matter you may ask? Well, we wanted to be entertained with super simple controls and to have fun! We did NOT want to sit down and have to read a 100 page manual and figure out all the buttons to beat our kids at a video game. 😇 Plus for me, I read manuals often, so that was NOT my idea of entertainment.
Also I cannot help but think how much this BMW 760i is going to cost to fix after these things break, but I guess the person that might actually lease it will not care except for the hair they'd pulled out of their head before the lease it up! ha ha 😂 Or imaging the wives who have to drive this... might as well build a dog house now guys! 🤣😳😬 Well that's my 2-½ cents! 😇
GREAT VIDEO Roman!!! I'd say keep the honest "Grumpy Guy Reviews" coming!!!
This is perfect. I'll figure out how to do everything and control it all. No one else will be able to figure it out.
Lol! This review has brought every old grumpy guy who only drives American pickup trucks out of the woodwork! Lol! This car is definitely not for everyone though.
Great review, and I totally agree. Isn't that dangerous to have electric only opening doors if electronic fails or battery fails in a crash? I wouldn't buy any vehicules without any mechanical safety mechanism.
They are not electric only opening
I agree, there should instead be an alert for holding up traffic
Would not need any alerts if drivers just paid attention to what they are supposed to be doing. Driving the flipping vehicle! Everything is a distraction, IF the drivers let it be.
So true. Will hang on to my 2016 750 which is so much simpler.
As a Fellow Grumpy Guy
Well Done
I drove this car for two days and agree it was unnecessarily complicated.
Yeh i had to watch this 2x already.. Guys this is good. im savin this in my favs. i loved this.. this is how being in a car is.. i work long hours.. i wanna get in and go alot of times.
Well I own a 23 760, will all but 1 option (leather headliner). Cost me major $ to build and with less that 5k miles on it, it is back at the dealership for a major steering component repair. Right now, they are telling it will be a month. I endorse, EVERYTHING you said i this video. I can attest to this and the fact that if you went to the back seat it would be even worse. I have the theatre screen and executive rear seating. It will make you 100x more grumpy than the front. This is my 3rd 7 series. I also own its the MB S Class competitor (3rd one of those too) and the Benz is definitely a better buy. Pros are: crazy engine power and drive train-- but that is all mundane until you get above 80mph.
The first one he says! Roman has been unknowingly doing grumpy guy reviews for years😂😂😂.
Great video as always guys
I agree with the over load of apps to do simple stuff….. Thank you Rolls Royce for still using buttons and switches. lol…..However after four shoulder surgeries I totally dig the auto open and close feature. lol.
More grumpy reviews!
Just press the button and move out the way 🙄
Only thing being talked about the new 7series is the TV in the back…..
You can see every spec of dust on that screen
I was planning to buy a 7 series in 2024. Dropped that idea now after watching this practical real world review. No looking back. Delighted owner of 3 BMWs so far. Will go for something less complicated. I want those physical AC buttons back. Please. That gear lever is an eyesore and takes away the fun also. Sad. Very sad. 😓🥺😨😖😣
More like a realistic guy review but Grumpy Guy Review is more catchy. Very much appreciated. Cheers.
At least it’s also expensive!
Love it. In fact, I'm a grumpy guy on this BMW, too. Way too much stuff that does not enhance the car.
More grumpy guy reviews!
Way too positive. Not grumpy enough.
Yes!! This is exactly the kind of car review I'd want to see if I was considering buying this car, since a lot of those annoyances are not things I'd necessarily notice in a quick test drive, but would bug the hell out of me after I bought it. More grumpy reviews, please!
If truly considering purchasing a luxury level car, one would do more than take a quick test drive.
Think of all the savings by adding no buttons and wires to those buttons.
Wonderful review! Cars shouldn't need an owner's manual for basic things!
i'm not fan of grandma crystal buttons either, but the dash shape behind the flat float cluster not matching nothing together is like random choices, i'm assuming there are people liking flat panels sticking alone like this undocked, just not for me
exterior wise i wonder if young generations like this in compare to 90s or 2000s 7 series models, or it's me because i grew up with those older ones liking them more
I don’t know why everyone on RUclips is having problems with the automatic doors, I have the 760i now for 5 months and everything is working great and the car is really smooth and so comfortable and honestly? Everything in it is ammazing🤝, I’m also an owner of a 2024 S class and I love them both to death, but I like how the bmw drive I bit more 🤝
I'm a retired software engineering manager, and bought a '22 M550i last Fall. WTF has gone wrong with the designers at BMW?!? The user interface is mostly crap. Don't get me wrong, I love the ride, but there's so much wrong that I'll likely be turning this car in for another brand in the near future.
Perfect case of the worst of both worlds
They are doing all these haptic/touch controls because it saves them money by not having physical buttons/switches that need mechanical components, harnesses, lights, etc.
It's not for a sense of futuristic tech, its to save money.
Love it!
Every car reviewer needs to do this kind of review
Hey Grumpy Roman...an owner will be much more invested than you in reading the manual and getting to know the car and its tech. That said, I agree that knobs and buttons are easier than those in screen menus and slider controls. Oh, I like the design.
Car is amazing. I am buying one. This is not your type of car - you are old school. I appreciate this engineering masterpiece. I am early 40's.
Any other space nerds notice when he said "fly the shuttle to the moon"? 😅
Like most kids, they would reach for the Owners Manual to learn how things Work and operate. You would be doing this in your Garage .
This is a nightmare.
i must be grumpy too. electrifcation has nothing to do with that stupid door. and yes, 100% this car, in every way, looks like a test case for different kinds of design elements that they threw together all in the same car. And the front grill? Why.
I own a '13 650i X Drive coupe ... and for all its faults I would never trade it for these newer models
Is there any EV you like at all?
Why not have some wine 🍷 with your EV Reviews? Cheers grumpy 😊. I'd like to see a duel review of EV's with Roman and one of the younger staff journalists. But "record separately", then compare reviews. Call it the, "ying and yang reviews." Aww we still ❤ TFL Reviews. 🥂
Just stick with your Chevrolet cars lol.
How much time it takes to operate this screen and find option? What was % of the trip when driver was operating screen rather than driving? Why on earth in cars infotainment system you need Bundesliga app? I start loving my 10yo car because I can take any trip and get not a single beep, ding dong or other distracting noise while driving. My car is not distracting me from the only job I have behind the wheel-driving. With all honesty I’d be done just seeing all shiny surfaces my fingerprints would be left not to even mention blinding sunlight reflection from them. Well done BMW!
In 5 years, engine will start leaking oil. Then electronic stuff will continue to stop working. In 10 yrs, all the plastic will become brittle that no one would want to touch it. If u can even make it to the year 10, the repair cost after warranty could be as much as what u have spent to buy the car. Every bill is just a bit less than what the car is worth.
It would have been interesting to compare this new BMW's interior against Tommy's old Mercedes diesel.
I blame Tesla for all this minimalism. I hate that my next new car may have a ton of frequently used features buried in horrible user interface on a fingerprint magnet touchscreen.
The interior kind of looks like those really expensive Jacob & Co watches that also look super cheap and tacky at the same time 🤦♂️
Oh wow a real review.
It was nowhere near as harsh on this car as it deserves, as far as I'm concerned.
Looks like someone in BMW marketing got to "redefine" luxury!
Sadly big business looks at utter failures like this an excercise in trying to innovate rather than poor management out of control. Experiments are for prototypes, not customers.
i always read my owners manuals.
They tried to be as innovative as Tesla but forgot to make it intuitive at the same time
These are going to be a very tough sell. And then depreciate like a meteorite - repair costs likely will be astounding.
This is a super nice cruising car not a track car the new BMW 5 Series has the same system most likely the next 3 series will have it too
Answering questions that no one has ever asked. Everything has to be a screen. Buttons worked fine for the longest time. Change for the sake of change.
Amazin luxurious European car!
Not for everyone 😅
I agree with Roman on this one.
Sad part is all that engineering and in a few years most of those gadgets will fail and just like any luxury sedan it will be worth peanuts
One word for this car: Tacky. I priced one for my wife earlier this year, yuck.
Don't forget they want to make everything a subscription so they have to put it behind a screen
What someone actually calling out BMW or German cars in general for not making the best cars in the history of car making.
There cars have been going downhill for years but car reviewers always find a way to bring up the “driving dynamics” of the car and gloss over the numerous flaws.
I can tell that I would drive off the road trying to fiddle with those dumb slide controls.
Finally a true review without the usual infomercial BS! I could not agree more. That vehicle is aim at my age bracket and my financial status and I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot poll... It is hideous and unnecessarily complex!!
🤣 News!: TFL probably gets banned by BMW like Subaru to offer cars to test to Roman! 🤣 Roman, the kiss of death to sheet metal!
At least you have an excuse not to use your signal.
All those screens and touch controls are not luxurious at all. They are done for cost-cutting. And shiny black plastic on a flagship car is just disgusting.
I'm thinking I'd probably agree with you...
That crystal plastic is so tacky. It looks like it came from an old dusty chandelier. Agree with all the frustrations, they shouldn't be in a car.