My mum thought the T slur meant an old trans women because it’s sounds a bit like granny and we had a very interesting conversation. It was a very funny situation though :)
My cis friend at school (who knew I was trans) once fully innocently used the t slur in a conversation with me. When I asked her about it she said that she thought it was an alternative word to ‘transgender’. It was the first time it really dawned on me that some cis people just don’t know that the word can be offensive (and isn’t just a cute nickname for trans people)
oh this! my sister, who has supported me since day 1, suddenly said the t-slur straight to my face and i was BAFFLED cause like ??? where did that come from… i asked her about it as well and while she knew it was a slur in english that’s not our first language. in our language it’s so normalized she didn’t even know it was a slur.
this has happened to me, too, sorta! i kept calling my trans pride flag my t-slur flag as a joke around my cis friend and she asked me at school just randomly with NO REASON TO BRING IT UP "hows ur tr*nny flag?" ... huh?
As a trans woman, it... it never hit me for a long time how hateful the word was. Pre-coming out I never used it out of respect because I thought it was none of my business. Then I came out, and I didn't use it because of the negative history, use and connotation. I am trans, sure, but if the word tr*nny is going to be used to make that shameful, I won't use it. And then it was used against me. And every time, it's shaken and disturbed me. It is hateful, and painful, and cruel. I finally and really understood the dark history behind the word. And damn if it isn't godawful.
Ima be honest, around my trans friend I’d say it ( I’m also trans obviously) I’d be like “ oh yeah the t bathroom” or something that that. After a group of guys at lunch called me it and laughed at me ( they picked on me before but never called me that) I stopped using it, I still say it sometimes but not as much as I use to. I thought that people didn’t actually use it but damn was I wrong, it honestly changed my whole perspective
@@Nic0Dr4ws I get that. I'm cis but I'm autistic and I said the R word before people knew I was neurodivergent and would intentionally use the word towards me. Now I have a visceral reaction. Sometimes I do try to say it just to myself in order to force myself to be less uncomfortable by it because people still use it towards me and it makes me have panic attacks. So I feel like I HAVE to make myself be more resilient to it because the people who use the word don't care about how they make me feel.
i relate mostly to the 2nd part of your experience, where i don't use it because it's a word that shames people. when i do hear or see it used negatively, it's usually disappointing, like the feeling of "i really thought you were better than that". i still think i would be more upset if someone said something transphobic that i haven't heard 1000 times before.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through that. It's shameful of the that person, using a slur against you. I can't imagine how terrible that must've been. I hope you find yourself in a safe place where you don't have to go through that
You (and your dad) are indeed right noah. Transvestite was coined in 1910, and sometime in the 80's it was abbreviated to the t-slur. It implies the same thing transvestite implies, which is crossdresser, hence the offensive part.
this is why i don't understand why in brazil we call trans women "travestis" (tranvestites) as a normal and totally accepted term within and outside the trans community when it has that connotation the recently elected federal deputy who is a trans woman, erika hilton, calls herself a "travesti" and most other people use the term normally just to refer to a trans woman and it confuses me a bit. in brazil it just seems not to be transphobic
@@duccline I think depending on the country and language, the terms can be a bit outdated. So at least in UK/US english transvestite is offensive, but in brazilian spanish the term transgender might not have a direct translation since the culture in general is less accepting. However I am not from brazil nor can i speak good spanish so the last part could be completely wrong.
@@coreykeays7249 that's the funny part, there is a direct translation, "transgênero", and we basically use that interchangeably when talking about trans women 🤷♀️ though trans men are pretty much always just "homens trans" or "transmasculinos" however you are right in general that the culture is less accepting, brazil has the highest recorded trans violence/murder rates in the world and that is absolutely deplorable also by the way, brazil's language is portuguese!
@@duccline Well, I'm not from Brazil, and I wasn't familiar with this before just now, but it might be that it isn't very transphobic in Brazil. Idk. Words have different meanings and conotations based on the place, the group and the language. It migh be that that word simply doesn't have those negative connotations in Brazil. It could also be that people don't realize that's what the word means or make those same assosiations. However, like I said, I don't really know much about this.
@@robinjupiter4731 you do have a good point and i think you're right, through some process the word has just lost the negative connotation in our language
I lost a friend (at least in part) due to the T-slur. Cis het white guy, he started using it with me, a trans guy. I told him not to and explained why. He told me that it was okay for him to use it because he's an ally and as such part of the LGBT+ community. I kind of lost it on him. For context I had to actually train him to not use the N word and that questioning basic facts of the holocaust was deeply problematic. I ended our relationship when a day or two later he came back at me that my reaction hurt his feelings and he felt that I was being bigoted towards him as a cis het guy. And that was it for me. The level of entitlement and just obliviousness was more than I could take.
slurs in general just make me really uncomfortable (especially when people who can’t reclaim them use them) because the reason why they’re coined is to dehumanize those of a minority anyway thank you for yet another based video noah 💕
I grew up around a trans woman who was basically a second mother to me. When I was 9 or 10 I remember her arguing about the word with a cis friend of hers because her friend called her the word and thought it was fine but she was upset by it. I think the word means whatever someone affected by it says it means and that people not affected by it shouldn't use it. This seems to me to be the simplest and most inclusive stance.
i started watching noah as a very unhappy straight cis women, he really helped me become comfortable with myself and now im an insanely happy trans masc. thank you for making it easier to be myself
This was a really good video, I appreciated it! The Cut video was definitely..an uncomfortable thing (in my opinion), but listening to all the peoples reactions and the discussions that came from it were very interesting and informative!
I have a horror story here. My parents always used that word the house, and I never realized it was a slur when I was younger. When I got into middle school that slur slipped out of my mouth when referring to a trans person I was friends with. They informed me of what it meant after yelling at me, when they realized I didn't understand it was a slur. I still feel bad to this day, and I'm very glad the situation was with my friend and not someone else. I did not mean it negatively when I set it, and my parents didn't either. They didn't realize the term was no longer PC. And I grew up thinking it was a positive word.
I’m also a trans man, and a pansexual dude. The word has always bothered me, but it doesn’t stop me from throwing it back in the face of jerks who decide to attempt to use it against me. I won’t be told who I am ever again. I know who TF I am, and I’m damn proud. Love to you all. Stay strong, because those weak bullies aren’t. You’ve got this, boo. ❤
iam a lesbian pink unicorn I came out last year thanks to noah im now farting squirrels and eat rainbows. iam so happy to come out I appreciate this community so much OMG
I just wanna say: Noah, I am 14 years old, I came out to my family when I was 13. Next week I will be getting my first binder and hopefully by next year I will be starting gender therapy (not hormone just working on gender dysphoria diagnosis) you have been such an amazing role model for me. My parents watch your RUclips videos, mainly ones with your mum or their personal favourite, your top surgery video. They then usually ask me any questions they have. I am so lucky to have such a supportive family and I think you play a big part in that. Thank you so much for making me feel more able to talk to my family. Although we are complete strangers to each other, when I watch your videos I feel like I’ve known you for years. Again, thank you Noah, for helping me convince myself I’m not just a lesbian lol (that was a genuine concern for like 2 years lol)
One of my roommates used the t slur in front of me and our other roommate. My one roommate and I are trans, this person was not. She had no idea it was a derogatory slur. I told her she shouldn't say that and she was getting upset a little because she felt bad and I felt the need to ease her worries, to tell her it was okay and that she didn't know but now she does. But I'll never really forget how casually and flippantly she used it. She really had no idea, she thought it was just another word for trans people, and I don't harbor ill will toward the situation at all. It just really caught me off guard and made me feel more aware of myself and made me feel more separate than I would've liked to be.
As my public speaking teacher taught to the class on first day, words have the meaning they do by consensus of those who use them. This video is a good example of how the meaning and connotation of a word can shift in relatively real time.
You help me so much with accepting that I’m trans. My mom won’t even call me a boy and always deadnames me.😢 I’m so glad that you have such a supportive mother. You always find a way to make me smile and I hope that you have the best life you can get when your old and can have Corry by your side to love you and take care of you! ❤
The things you say about being scared of the word transgender and really having to accept yourself as trans is so helpful. Thank Noah :) i was unsure where this video would go but it turned out good 😊
Great video and it's such a complex topic of discussion. In Sydney it's particularly complicated especially for older people as tr*nny was used a collective sort of acknowledgement of identity between trans people so it had more of a positive connotation in arts-politics circles however also due to its long time use as a slur it can be difficult to differentiate the connotation of the phrase when said by different people. Like there was a university lecturer who was discussing a period of art socio-political history in Sydney that she was a part of and got reprimanded as she mentioned how "tr*nnies" featured heavily in the movement. But she is not at all transphobic and merely was using the word since it is what the trans people of the time referred to themselves as. So it's just super complicated to talk about because of all the intricacies.
12:00 As a bisexual person, I personally don’t feel comfortable saying the F-Slur even though I technically can say it. Sort of how Noah said he doesn’t like saying the T-Slur song it “Gives him an ick”.
I've liked noah's music for ages and ages (its so perfect) but somehow only found out today that he makes other youtube videos??? and I've binged watched so many of them, because they're amazing and I love them. 10/10 new favourite account right now, lots of love from London!!!
I was in class at my school and my teacher randomly says “I went to the shops on the weekend and saw a tr*nny” she then continued to use different pronouns for the person being he, she and they. It was just so unnecessary and out of the blue. I don’t think she realised that it is very hurtful to a lot of trans people. My best friend is trans and she is in that class.
I have never thought that the T slur was short for transgender. I have only ever known it to be short for transvestite. I'm probably around your Dad's age and British so it makes sense that he said the same. I've never used it against anyone and will continue to not use it, but it's good to know that the meaning has changed.
im a trans guy, and while i dont have a strong personal association to the word, i usually feel like the attitude is mostly mocking (at least in my experience). it does also make me laugh because the first time i had it used towards me was when a kid tried to go for a triple slur combo in a group chat but made a typo and ended up with (uncensored obv) "tr*nny f*ggot restart" which i will always find hilarious
I resonate so much with this video especially the points of how a word can have so many meanings and contexts depending on situation and intent. I am someone that uses slurs to empower myself, I call myself the f slur all the time because it makes me feel empowered by the fact that I'm queer and because people have made me feel wrong in my sexuality and when they find out it doesn't upset me it takes away the harm they meant to cause.
I love noah with all my heart honestly as a straight cis woman im really trying to have a better understanding about how I can best support people. I love you all. Stay safe
This is why I call myself queer. I also sometimes combine queer with weirdo and call myself a queirdo because I also take the word weird as a compliment. It doesn't affect me whatsoever when someone calls me weird. Even if they meant it as an insult, I'll thank them for the compliment. Yeah, I am that weird lol.
i don’t ever use that word however after a few months of coming to terms with my identity i remember i wrote in my notes “i’m a tr*nny!!” and it felt so freeing and affirming :)
The fact that I got a lgbtqia+ ad is just amazing I’m non-binary and I was born a girl I hate being called a girl and Im still in the closet it’s the worst being called a girl When I get called a girl I just want to cry because I hate it and I know a lot of people don’t know what non-binary is like some people are like “ oh did you make that up? That’s cool!” It hurts. My friend is trans and I feel bad for him because people call him a girl and I just want to throw a book at that person.
I’m a trans masc teen and I just started watching Noah few weeks ago and I really think he’s a great inspiration for young trans teens :) thanks for being so cool Noah ^^
Someone asked in a class I took about whether something was a slur (it is). Except they actually said the word in the question. Maybe it's just me, but I think if you have to ask if something is a slur, it's better to not say it, so it was very jarring to hear at the time...
Yeah true Although it’s harder to explain what word you are talking about? I hate that dilemma! Like the t-slur Most cis people don’t know what I mean if I don’t say it… wich is just like… ahhhh don’t wanna! Meh! Although I have also had white classmates read out the n-word in texts Like out loud just saying the word Hard r and all… I was so stunned I didn’t even know what to say Still feel bad about not defending my classmates who were affected by it…
I'm a trans man. I've never said that before but it's true, and I'm proud of it. Im out to my girlfriend, she is incredibly supportive. I just discovered noah a few weeks back and he has helped me so much with understanding and figuring myself out. I doubt you'll read this noah, but thank you so much. You've done so much for me. Love you 💕
4:00 reminds me of when my friend thought that "homo" was short for "homophobe" and she made a joke about her brother being a homo and i was like WHAT 😭😭
I liked that they were giving people a platform to speak for themselves. It’s too easy to just assume what someone else feels about something. I feel uncomfortable when I hear cis people use the T word because it feels dismissive but if a trans person wants to claim it, who am I to say otherwise. For myself, I use the word ‘queer’ liberally. I’ve always loved the word and it’s older usage to refer to strange or unusual things and, as Lydia Deetz famously said, I myself am strange and unusual.
I (56 y-o), for one, never knew the "T" word was a slur until now. I know a couple of trans people and they've never mentioned it. That said, I've never used it (thankfully).
They really did those people dirty. They basically lured a bunch of trans people into their studio under false pretenses to make them transplain why it's bad to call us slurs. I hate being put in that kind of situation even when it's not on camera.
when i started to feel comfortable being trans i started using it a fair amount (only w friends). it wasn’t until after a bunch of guys my age and older (15-18ish) joked abt offing me and calling me the t slur while in a position where they were vaguely trying to, that i kinda stopped using it as much. it’s been 3 years and hearing it at all still kinda makes me physically tense and feel badweird. like,, obviously i’m so happy that so many ppl r so comfortable w the word that they don’t mind it, but also people should be aware that not everyone is comfortable w it. ive noticed a few young trans ppl use it a fair amount (like i did) and wish they would bare in mind that, even tho it doesn’t affect them, it does affect some people. so to make sure that you’re only using it in a space where u are 100% everyone sure there is okay w it.
You've popped up in my feed today, so decided to watch probably not your normal demographic 50 yo woman here, but what I got from this was a few things, hoping that the people participating were at least told they want there reactions to words that may cause hurt,so they were knowing what they were coming to do.and to shed light I guess on another word that is used regularly and has been taken back that the older generation do struggle with, and that's queer, in my younger days it was used to refer to pedaphiles not homosexuals,then the bigots started associating with gay men, there was even a line a lot of folks would use to respond to the bigots and that was TRIGGER WARNING FOLKS " I'm a gay man,not a dirty queer." so even now I struggle to refer to someone as queer even if they tell me that's how they identify, as to me it's associated with such nastiness and has always been for me so derogatory, I cannot bring myself to use it. Hope this sheds a little light to the younger folks who use the word as to why us oldies do struggle to see it as anything positive. And know we do try to refer to you as you like us too,but some words there history is just to horrid,
The word never really bothered me tbh, I didn’t overuse it, and I didn’t mind if other trans folks called me it, until recently. Getting called a slur regularly can really shake up your relationship with the word and your identity. I hope some day I can have a better relationship with the word, but for now I just need to get out of the situation where I’m being called it.
I think this was really informative and it's nice to see all sides of the story/words being used/reclaimed/still hated. I identify as genderqueer (trans FTNB) I don't mind people calling me queer, but agree that being called tr*nny is something that I grew up thinking was derogatory. (I'm 45 years old) so I have a bit of decades under my belt, also interesting how things change over the years! Thank you for making this video, and thank you for your music as well 🎶🎵
I completely understand the way you refer to your own body, I'm pre everything but I've put a lot of effort into becoming comfortable with my masculinity, and I'm completely fine with referring to my chest as boobs. That's just what my body is like right now.
A few years ago, I was in my Photography class and I must've forgotten to log off the public computer because the next time I logged in, the wallpaper was changed to my old school photo and someone had wrote tr*nny over the top of it- I remember that was probably the first time dealing with that specific slur irl which really caused me to think... That was also probably the moment I realised that I couldn't and I wouldn't let other people dictate who I am :] Coming from a trans man, it really can be impactful on ones life and I think more people should be completely aware of the true intentions that slur can hold-
I’m a non-binary man, and I really hate the word with everything inside me. My journey through my gender has been really difficult, and I’ve been called it for years and years. However, the word that hurts more is q***r. I hate it. When I heard the person in the video say it, my brain shut down for a moment. I can get called a f****t, a t****y, or racial slurs, but if I’m called a q***r, it sets me off. The worst part is that it comes from other lgbt people. They’re the ones calling me that, in an endearing way. It’s an identity for them. But it’s a slur for me. TL;DR the word t****y sucks, but the word q***r sucks more to me. Please don’t assume every lgbt person is comfortable with being called that word, even if you like it.
I am from non-english speaking country and we have our languages variation of that word and its usually used to refer to trans women but not always and everytime I hear it from cis people my blood boils I really dont like it
tbh when i first heard this slur i thought it was like a shortening of transgender or like an endearment term cuz i didnt actually know slurs existed for ages so im surprised a simple word can carry so much of an impact but im glad this video exists so cis ppl can actually find out that its not just a colloquial word to describe trans ppl and is actually very offensive. wondering what cut asked people when getting them to be on the channel tho
As a baby trans, I also like to call myself the T-slur. For me it’s a term of endearment and self acceptance. (Obviously I don’t do it around other people who might be uncomfortable/offended by it).
{KINDA RANT-Y? Share opinions} Im trans aswell but this video was very interesting to me for another reason, i also suffer from many severe mental disorders and I reclaimed the word retarded and I don’t see anything wrong with it because the words “crazy, insane, psycho” etc have the same history and are used on a EVERY DAY BASES. But I would NEVER call someone else that, I joke about my depression but I’d never joke about someone else’s. I also use it to bring attention to the fact that It’s very stigmatized compared to words like “crazy” which I believe others shouldn’t be using. Edit: NOT TO MENTION, people will use those words without realizing it to refer to someone acting out of the ordinary, not socially “normal” or mentally ill.
Someone once called me the F word used to refer to the LQBTQ+ community at times because I enjoy role-playing on games like Roblox and at one point among us. As someone who is nonbinary I banned them very quickly as well as reported them
This was a really good video, Noah. The Cut video itself was a bit uncomfortable to watch, as slurs in general make me very uncomfortable, as I’ve been called the f-slur in the past. Having said that, listening to the reactions and discussions of the people in the video was very interesting and informative!
I only just found out that it was a slur for trans people, I grew up with it being a slur for cross-dressers...which always just made me think about Tim Curry being fabulous.
I discovered trans people because there was a “man” who came out as a transgender woman, and I never knew the term trans until several years later. My parents are awesome, and my church was super accepting!
I find it irritating when people try to police the words people use to refer to themselves. like they are saying 'you can't use that term for YOURSELF because it makes ME uncomfortable.' if it's not a term that person can reclaim I understand but if it is it's not really any of your business.
I’m a bi man and I agree that I’m allowed to say the f slur because I get called it all the time so I feel like I’m allowed to. I’ve had people say that I can’t say that because I’m not gay but I think it doesn’t matter what you are as long as the word is used against you.
I'm a pan cis woman, I had no idea that that word was a slur. I don't call people outside their names anyway, but I'm glad I watched this video and now understand how painful it is to some people.
I'm trans and I feel similar to Noah. I don't mind using or hearing the word but its like being called the f slur. neither bother me because yeah, I'm pan, and I'm trans. I don't care and I don't think it is worth letting myself hate the words. but if I said either of which and someone said it made them uncomfortable I would stop because it's okay to not wanna be called/hear that. some people have negative experiences and trauma because of it and that's okay. I don't get triggered by words myself, but I understand why others do.
I'm from germany and we have a similar slur here. It was my first introduction to trans* as a whole and it definitely painted it as something othering/ostracizing and negative. It made me distance myself even from educating myself on trans*ness just because I didn't want to be assotiated with it. So I definitely would never use that term but power to everyone using it in a selfdescribing way or rebrands it (like the word queer was).
3:17 ah ... That is Erin Kyan. Ahhh He is one of the Producers of the fabulous Love and Luck Podcast about a cute couple sending each other voicemails and having Magic.
A girl who I was in a play with called me the t-slur when she heard me and another cast member joking that I was his son. (I’m afab, don’t consider myself trans but I might be genderfluid) It was the first time I ever heard it and I was just so…confused? I didn’t know what it meant but I could tell that it was supposed to be hurtful. I think I even went, “What?” and she said it again. I could not fathom why she would act so disgusted over a completely innocent inside joke. And like I’m pretty sure she was better friends with the boy who made the joke than I was, so it was even more confusing.
Lol I'm using my LGBT phobic grandma's phone and RUclips account to comment this. Annnd I'm a trans guy and bisexual lol. I really love these videos and if my grandma sees this then I'm gonna be unalived but it's worth it lol. Annnnyway have a lovely day/night lovely people
I don’t personally identify with trans tho I am non binary so I’ve never used it and never will. But this reminds me a lot of my relationship with the r slur as a disabled person whenever I hear that word from a non disabled person (I’ve heard many teen boys use it specifically) it just makes me tense and I just get filled with unbridled rage because to hear it thrown around so casually so nonchalantly- it hurts a lot. I imagine that’s what it feels like to many trans people so I have sympathy ❤
Personally I use it when I’m making fun of myself in a trans context but I will never use it towards another person or around people who I know are uncontrollable about it.
I totally get the "I'm uncomfortable with you referring to yourself as [insert slur here]" like is the thought process of those people that those words SHOULD only be used to insult and demean? Like why should a specific group take the slur for them and respect that there is an insult specifically for them?
Tbh i feel like what matters is who's using it and their intention behind it, if a cis person called me that in a derogatory way ofc i would hate it, but if a fellow trans person was just jokingly/casually saying it then I'd go along with it, intention and context matter a l o t
Ive seen so many ppl say the f slur isn’t a slur and as someone who’s queer and has been called the f slur a lot growing up by classmates, it bothers me a lot. I also wanted to add that I am Bi so if people say Bi people aren’t effected by the f slur, they are very wrong.
My mum thought the T slur meant an old trans women because it’s sounds a bit like granny and we had a very interesting conversation. It was a very funny situation though :)
that's kind of cute though
Awww
these people where paid to be called slurs and I've been called them for FREE?! where's my paycheck lmao
Same, though I’m non-binary. So give me my money too!
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@@alexandriashaner9767 so you’re a computer
@@mr.puppymustache3860 No, I’m a real person.
@@alexandriashaner9767 so you do have a gender you just refuse to be it
My cis friend at school (who knew I was trans) once fully innocently used the t slur in a conversation with me. When I asked her about it she said that she thought it was an alternative word to ‘transgender’. It was the first time it really dawned on me that some cis people just don’t know that the word can be offensive (and isn’t just a cute nickname for trans people)
oh this! my sister, who has supported me since day 1, suddenly said the t-slur straight to my face and i was BAFFLED cause like ??? where did that come from… i asked her about it as well and while she knew it was a slur in english that’s not our first language. in our language it’s so normalized she didn’t even know it was a slur.
this has happened to me, too, sorta! i kept calling my trans pride flag my t-slur flag as a joke around my cis friend and she asked me at school just randomly with NO REASON TO BRING IT UP "hows ur tr*nny flag?" ... huh?
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If you think about it, it actually sounds like a cute word if you don't know the meaning 😭
@@milagros5807 yeah, I agree it's a cute word, too bad that it is used to hate us trans people.
As a trans woman, it... it never hit me for a long time how hateful the word was. Pre-coming out I never used it out of respect because I thought it was none of my business.
Then I came out, and I didn't use it because of the negative history, use and connotation. I am trans, sure, but if the word tr*nny is going to be used to make that shameful, I won't use it.
And then it was used against me. And every time, it's shaken and disturbed me. It is hateful, and painful, and cruel. I finally and really understood the dark history behind the word.
And damn if it isn't godawful.
Ima be honest, around my trans friend I’d say it ( I’m also trans obviously) I’d be like “ oh yeah the t bathroom” or something that that. After a group of guys at lunch called me it and laughed at me ( they picked on me before but never called me that) I stopped using it, I still say it sometimes but not as much as I use to. I thought that people didn’t actually use it but damn was I wrong, it honestly changed my whole perspective
@@Nic0Dr4ws I get that. I'm cis but I'm autistic and I said the R word before people knew I was neurodivergent and would intentionally use the word towards me. Now I have a visceral reaction. Sometimes I do try to say it just to myself in order to force myself to be less uncomfortable by it because people still use it towards me and it makes me have panic attacks. So I feel like I HAVE to make myself be more resilient to it because the people who use the word don't care about how they make me feel.
i relate mostly to the 2nd part of your experience, where i don't use it because it's a word that shames people. when i do hear or see it used negatively, it's usually disappointing, like the feeling of "i really thought you were better than that". i still think i would be more upset if someone said something transphobic that i haven't heard 1000 times before.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through that. It's shameful of the that person, using a slur against you. I can't imagine how terrible that must've been. I hope you find yourself in a safe place where you don't have to go through that
@Y U Meme I know you didn't just use the one slur I JUST SAID actually triggers me. Tone deaf much? Leave me alone.
You (and your dad) are indeed right noah. Transvestite was coined in 1910, and sometime in the 80's it was abbreviated to the t-slur. It implies the same thing transvestite implies, which is crossdresser, hence the offensive part.
this is why i don't understand why in brazil we call trans women "travestis" (tranvestites) as a normal and totally accepted term within and outside the trans community when it has that connotation
the recently elected federal deputy who is a trans woman, erika hilton, calls herself a "travesti" and most other people use the term normally just to refer to a trans woman and it confuses me a bit. in brazil it just seems not to be transphobic
@@duccline I think depending on the country and language, the terms can be a bit outdated. So at least in UK/US english transvestite is offensive, but in brazilian spanish the term transgender might not have a direct translation since the culture in general is less accepting. However I am not from brazil nor can i speak good spanish so the last part could be completely wrong.
@@coreykeays7249 that's the funny part, there is a direct translation, "transgênero", and we basically use that interchangeably when talking about trans women 🤷♀️ though trans men are pretty much always just "homens trans" or "transmasculinos"
however you are right in general that the culture is less accepting, brazil has the highest recorded trans violence/murder rates in the world and that is absolutely deplorable
also by the way, brazil's language is portuguese!
@@duccline Well, I'm not from Brazil, and I wasn't familiar with this before just now, but it might be that it isn't very transphobic in Brazil. Idk. Words have different meanings and conotations based on the place, the group and the language. It migh be that that word simply doesn't have those negative connotations in Brazil. It could also be that people don't realize that's what the word means or make those same assosiations.
However, like I said, I don't really know much about this.
@@robinjupiter4731 you do have a good point and i think you're right, through some process the word has just lost the negative connotation in our language
I lost a friend (at least in part) due to the T-slur. Cis het white guy, he started using it with me, a trans guy. I told him not to and explained why. He told me that it was okay for him to use it because he's an ally and as such part of the LGBT+ community. I kind of lost it on him.
For context I had to actually train him to not use the N word and that questioning basic facts of the holocaust was deeply problematic.
I ended our relationship when a day or two later he came back at me that my reaction hurt his feelings and he felt that I was being bigoted towards him as a cis het guy. And that was it for me. The level of entitlement and just obliviousness was more than I could take.
damn i’m sorry
Sounds like a cabbage head fuck him you'll find better friends
well darn, if you had to "train" him not to do that, he obviously wasn't a very good guy from the start... sorry though.
slurs in general just make me really uncomfortable (especially when people who can’t reclaim them use them) because the reason why they’re coined is to dehumanize those of a minority
anyway thank you for yet another based video noah 💕
Yeah same
Well said
Yup. Why would I want to use a word that was invented to hurt people?
I grew up around a trans woman who was basically a second mother to me. When I was 9 or 10 I remember her arguing about the word with a cis friend of hers because her friend called her the word and thought it was fine but she was upset by it. I think the word means whatever someone affected by it says it means and that people not affected by it shouldn't use it. This seems to me to be the simplest and most inclusive stance.
SO YOU WERE BRAINWASHED TOO.
i started watching noah as a very unhappy straight cis women, he really helped me become comfortable with myself and now im an insanely happy trans masc. thank you for making it easier to be myself
This was a really good video, I appreciated it! The Cut video was definitely..an uncomfortable thing (in my opinion), but listening to all the peoples reactions and the discussions that came from it were very interesting and informative!
I have a horror story here. My parents always used that word the house, and I never realized it was a slur when I was younger. When I got into middle school that slur slipped out of my mouth when referring to a trans person I was friends with. They informed me of what it meant after yelling at me, when they realized I didn't understand it was a slur. I still feel bad to this day, and I'm very glad the situation was with my friend and not someone else. I did not mean it negatively when I set it, and my parents didn't either. They didn't realize the term was no longer PC. And I grew up thinking it was a positive word.
This was surprisingly interesting. I actually really enjoyed it. (Also the auto generated captions heard ‘t-slur’ as ‘Tesla’ which was quite amusing.
Same 😂
I’m also a trans man, and a pansexual dude. The word has always bothered me, but it doesn’t stop me from throwing it back in the face of jerks who decide to attempt to use it against me. I won’t be told who I am ever again. I know who TF I am, and I’m damn proud. Love to you all. Stay strong, because those weak bullies aren’t. You’ve got this, boo. ❤
iam a lesbian pink unicorn I came out last year thanks to noah im now farting squirrels and eat rainbows. iam so happy to come out I appreciate this community so much OMG
@@MrTosa43 what do you get from this? what do you gain from sh1++ing on people for who they are?
@Y U Meme we all know you arent/ you're a disgusting excuse of a human being thinking its funny to do this sh1+
I just wanna say:
Noah, I am 14 years old, I came out to my family when I was 13. Next week I will be getting my first binder and hopefully by next year I will be starting gender therapy (not hormone just working on gender dysphoria diagnosis) you have been such an amazing role model for me. My parents watch your RUclips videos, mainly ones with your mum or their personal favourite, your top surgery video. They then usually ask me any questions they have. I am so lucky to have such a supportive family and I think you play a big part in that. Thank you so much for making me feel more able to talk to my family. Although we are complete strangers to each other, when I watch your videos I feel like I’ve known you for years. Again, thank you Noah, for helping me convince myself I’m not just a lesbian lol (that was a genuine concern for like 2 years lol)
That's awesome 😎
You are who you are. Good on you and good luck on your journey 😏
Hope you're still doing well after all this time
One of my roommates used the t slur in front of me and our other roommate. My one roommate and I are trans, this person was not. She had no idea it was a derogatory slur. I told her she shouldn't say that and she was getting upset a little because she felt bad and I felt the need to ease her worries, to tell her it was okay and that she didn't know but now she does. But I'll never really forget how casually and flippantly she used it. She really had no idea, she thought it was just another word for trans people, and I don't harbor ill will toward the situation at all. It just really caught me off guard and made me feel more aware of myself and made me feel more separate than I would've liked to be.
As my public speaking teacher taught to the class on first day, words have the meaning they do by consensus of those who use them. This video is a good example of how the meaning and connotation of a word can shift in relatively real time.
You help me so much with accepting that I’m trans. My mom won’t even call me a boy and always deadnames me.😢 I’m so glad that you have such a supportive mother. You always find a way to make me smile and I hope that you have the best life you can get when your old and can have Corry by your side to love you and take care of you! ❤
I just want to let u know your Not alone ..
same
Sending mental hugs to you, Bro!!! (if it's ok to you)
Things will get better, and you're so wonderful!!
your mom is right you will never be a man
The things you say about being scared of the word transgender and really having to accept yourself as trans is so helpful. Thank Noah :) i was unsure where this video would go but it turned out good 😊
I'm transmasc and my dad has finally started calling me by my prefferred name! (Stitch) So that's really cool :)
I love your name! It's so cool.
Yoooo your name is so cool!
What the hell people being creative!
Im so happy for you though!
It’s one of the best feelings!
Hope you are well
Hearing that "Hello Underachievers !" is so nice
Is it strange that when I hear the T slur, I think of trains?
Yes, but so do I 😂
Trains? Do you mean trans
@@animalcrossingnerd8142 trains... You know, a locomotive or engine with carriages?
It can transport goods and also people and animals?
@@animalcrossingnerd8142 no, I mean trains. Ik it's weird
Great video and it's such a complex topic of discussion. In Sydney it's particularly complicated especially for older people as tr*nny was used a collective sort of acknowledgement of identity between trans people so it had more of a positive connotation in arts-politics circles however also due to its long time use as a slur it can be difficult to differentiate the connotation of the phrase when said by different people.
Like there was a university lecturer who was discussing a period of art socio-political history in Sydney that she was a part of and got reprimanded as she mentioned how "tr*nnies" featured heavily in the movement. But she is not at all transphobic and merely was using the word since it is what the trans people of the time referred to themselves as.
So it's just super complicated to talk about because of all the intricacies.
12:00 As a bisexual person, I personally don’t feel comfortable saying the F-Slur even though I technically can say it. Sort of how Noah said he doesn’t like saying the T-Slur song it “Gives him an ick”.
I've liked noah's music for ages and ages (its so perfect) but somehow only found out today that he makes other youtube videos??? and I've binged watched so many of them, because they're amazing and I love them. 10/10 new favourite account right now, lots of love from London!!!
I was in class at my school and my teacher randomly says “I went to the shops on the weekend and saw a tr*nny” she then continued to use different pronouns for the person being he, she and they. It was just so unnecessary and out of the blue. I don’t think she realised that it is very hurtful to a lot of trans people. My best friend is trans and she is in that class.
I have never thought that the T slur was short for transgender. I have only ever known it to be short for transvestite. I'm probably around your Dad's age and British so it makes sense that he said the same.
I've never used it against anyone and will continue to not use it, but it's good to know that the meaning has changed.
im a trans guy, and while i dont have a strong personal association to the word, i usually feel like the attitude is mostly mocking (at least in my experience).
it does also make me laugh because the first time i had it used towards me was when a kid tried to go for a triple slur combo in a group chat but made a typo and ended up with (uncensored obv) "tr*nny f*ggot restart" which i will always find hilarious
Hello Noah! You have really been amazing to me and my best friend in our journey of coming out as trans, we would like to thank you
I resonate so much with this video especially the points of how a word can have so many meanings and contexts depending on situation and intent. I am someone that uses slurs to empower myself, I call myself the f slur all the time because it makes me feel empowered by the fact that I'm queer and because people have made me feel wrong in my sexuality and when they find out it doesn't upset me it takes away the harm they meant to cause.
I love noah with all my heart honestly as a straight cis woman im really trying to have a better understanding about how I can best support people. I love you all. Stay safe
I'm a bisexual and gender fluid person this helps me understand other people better plus Noah looks so cute 😊
Im bi and gender-fluid too!!!
This is why I call myself queer. I also sometimes combine queer with weirdo and call myself a queirdo because I also take the word weird as a compliment. It doesn't affect me whatsoever when someone calls me weird. Even if they meant it as an insult, I'll thank them for the compliment. Yeah, I am that weird lol.
Queerdo?
I just wanna say that watching these videos have made me gain so much confidence in myself and my sexuality even though I’m not trans
Snapping right along with the last speaker. Absolutely! Love it!
I am not trans, but the fact that trans people are still getting hated against scares me. Like come on people its 2022, not 1922.
i don’t ever use that word however after a few months of coming to terms with my identity i remember i wrote in my notes “i’m a tr*nny!!” and it felt so freeing and affirming :)
The fact that I got a lgbtqia+ ad is just amazing
I’m non-binary and I was born a girl
I hate being called a girl and Im still in the closet it’s the worst being called a girl
When I get called a girl I just want to cry because I hate it and I know a lot of people don’t know what non-binary is like some people are like “ oh did you make that up? That’s cool!” It hurts.
My friend is trans and I feel bad for him because people call him a girl and I just want to throw a book at that person.
I’m a closeted AFAB enby too 🌈
i hope you are able to come out comfortably and have people stop calling you a girl ❤️
thank you Noah, i needed this
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH YOU'VE HELPED ME SO MUCH OMG💞
Oml I loved your new song- Had it on repeat for hours.
I’m a trans masc teen and I just started watching Noah few weeks ago and I really think he’s a great inspiration for young trans teens :) thanks for being so cool Noah ^^
LALALA IS SUCH A BOP YOU NEVER DISAPPOINT
Someone asked in a class I took about whether something was a slur (it is). Except they actually said the word in the question. Maybe it's just me, but I think if you have to ask if something is a slur, it's better to not say it, so it was very jarring to hear at the time...
Yeah true
Although it’s harder to explain what word you are talking about?
I hate that dilemma!
Like the t-slur
Most cis people don’t know what I mean if I don’t say it… wich is just like… ahhhh don’t wanna!
Meh!
Although I have also had white classmates read out the n-word in texts
Like out loud just saying the word
Hard r and all…
I was so stunned I didn’t even know what to say
Still feel bad about not defending my classmates who were affected by it…
I'm a trans man. I've never said that before but it's true, and I'm proud of it. Im out to my girlfriend, she is incredibly supportive. I just discovered noah a few weeks back and he has helped me so much with understanding and figuring myself out. I doubt you'll read this noah, but thank you so much. You've done so much for me. Love you 💕
Unrelated but I absolutely adore your music
His music is just 👌✨
Fr his music is the best
4:00 reminds me of when my friend thought that "homo" was short for "homophobe" and she made a joke about her brother being a homo and i was like WHAT 😭😭
I liked that they were giving people a platform to speak for themselves. It’s too easy to just assume what someone else feels about something. I feel uncomfortable when I hear cis people use the T word because it feels dismissive but if a trans person wants to claim it, who am I to say otherwise. For myself, I use the word ‘queer’ liberally. I’ve always loved the word and it’s older usage to refer to strange or unusual things and, as Lydia Deetz famously said, I myself am strange and unusual.
My wife (a cis woman) gets called the T-slur, and the only reason I can think of as to why is that she’s quite masculine presenting.
"I was going to call you an f, but I have to make sure you're exclusively attracted to men". XD
Your videos are such a comfort to me. Have a great day Noah! ❤
I (56 y-o), for one, never knew the "T" word was a slur until now. I know a couple of trans people and they've never mentioned it. That said, I've never used it (thankfully).
They really did those people dirty.
They basically lured a bunch of trans people into their studio under false pretenses to make them transplain why it's bad to call us slurs.
I hate being put in that kind of situation even when it's not on camera.
when i started to feel comfortable being trans i started using it a fair amount (only w friends). it wasn’t until after a bunch of guys my age and older (15-18ish) joked abt offing me and calling me the t slur while in a position where they were vaguely trying to, that i kinda stopped using it as much. it’s been 3 years and hearing it at all still kinda makes me physically tense and feel badweird. like,, obviously i’m so happy that so many ppl r so comfortable w the word that they don’t mind it, but also people should be aware that not everyone is comfortable w it. ive noticed a few young trans ppl use it a fair amount (like i did) and wish they would bare in mind that, even tho it doesn’t affect them, it does affect some people. so to make sure that you’re only using it in a space where u are 100% everyone sure there is okay w it.
You've popped up in my feed today, so decided to watch probably not your normal demographic 50 yo woman here, but what I got from this was a few things, hoping that the people participating were at least told they want there reactions to words that may cause hurt,so they were knowing what they were coming to do.and to shed light I guess on another word that is used regularly and has been taken back that the older generation do struggle with, and that's queer, in my younger days it was used to refer to pedaphiles not homosexuals,then the bigots started associating with gay men, there was even a line a lot of folks would use to respond to the bigots and that was TRIGGER WARNING FOLKS " I'm a gay man,not a dirty queer." so even now I struggle to refer to someone as queer even if they tell me that's how they identify, as to me it's associated with such nastiness and has always been for me so derogatory, I cannot bring myself to use it. Hope this sheds a little light to the younger folks who use the word as to why us oldies do struggle to see it as anything positive. And know we do try to refer to you as you like us too,but some words there history is just to horrid,
The word never really bothered me tbh, I didn’t overuse it, and I didn’t mind if other trans folks called me it, until recently. Getting called a slur regularly can really shake up your relationship with the word and your identity. I hope some day I can have a better relationship with the word, but for now I just need to get out of the situation where I’m being called it.
I think this was really informative and it's nice to see all sides of the story/words being used/reclaimed/still hated. I identify as genderqueer (trans FTNB) I don't mind people calling me queer, but agree that being called tr*nny is something that I grew up thinking was derogatory. (I'm 45 years old) so I have a bit of decades under my belt, also interesting how things change over the years!
Thank you for making this video, and thank you for your music as well 🎶🎵
I completely understand the way you refer to your own body, I'm pre everything but I've put a lot of effort into becoming comfortable with my masculinity, and I'm completely fine with referring to my chest as boobs. That's just what my body is like right now.
A few years ago, I was in my Photography class and I must've forgotten to log off the public computer because the next time I logged in, the wallpaper was changed to my old school photo and someone had wrote tr*nny over the top of it- I remember that was probably the first time dealing with that specific slur irl which really caused me to think... That was also probably the moment I realised that I couldn't and I wouldn't let other people dictate who I am :] Coming from a trans man, it really can be impactful on ones life and I think more people should be completely aware of the true intentions that slur can hold-
I thought you were weird and then I saw your RUclips. Bloody hell im in love with your music now - a fellow trans masc
I’m a non-binary man, and I really hate the word with everything inside me. My journey through my gender has been really difficult, and I’ve been called it for years and years.
However, the word that hurts more is q***r. I hate it. When I heard the person in the video say it, my brain shut down for a moment. I can get called a f****t, a t****y, or racial slurs, but if I’m called a q***r, it sets me off.
The worst part is that it comes from other lgbt people. They’re the ones calling me that, in an endearing way. It’s an identity for them. But it’s a slur for me.
TL;DR the word t****y sucks, but the word q***r sucks more to me. Please don’t assume every lgbt person is comfortable with being called that word, even if you like it.
I came out as trans and my mom came out as *christian* haha that was fun 😟
I loved the last person owning their insults and using them as empowerment out of spite, that’s slays so hard omg❤💅🏻
I learnt the t slur while my (trans) friends where using it as king of a nickname so, even as a trans guy, I didn’t really know it was a slur
first off the amount of times I have listened to Noah's new song I cannot count and second I love how he uses the duck noise to bleep words out 🤣
The last person has my whole heart great reaction :)
Noah, you are amazing. You keep me going as a young transmasc. Keep up the good work! :)
I am from non-english speaking country and we have our languages variation of that word and its usually used to refer to trans women but not always and everytime I hear it from cis people my blood boils I really dont like it
tbh when i first heard this slur i thought it was like a shortening of transgender or like an endearment term cuz i didnt actually know slurs existed for ages so im surprised a simple word can carry so much of an impact but im glad this video exists so cis ppl can actually find out that its not just a colloquial word to describe trans ppl and is actually very offensive. wondering what cut asked people when getting them to be on the channel tho
Omg the second person was Zach Barack who is the voice actor for Barney in Dead End: Paranormal Park
Really!!!!!!! Love that show
As a baby trans, I also like to call myself the T-slur. For me it’s a term of endearment and self acceptance. (Obviously I don’t do it around other people who might be uncomfortable/offended by it).
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Im trans aswell but this video was very interesting to me for another reason, i also suffer from many severe mental disorders and I reclaimed the word retarded and I don’t see anything wrong with it because the words “crazy, insane, psycho” etc have the same history and are used on a EVERY DAY BASES.
But I would NEVER call someone else that, I joke about my depression but I’d never joke about someone else’s. I also use it to bring attention to the fact that It’s very stigmatized compared to words like “crazy” which I believe others shouldn’t be using.
Edit: NOT TO MENTION, people will use those words without realizing it to refer to someone acting out of the ordinary, not socially “normal” or mentally ill.
Someone once called me the F word used to refer to the LQBTQ+ community at times because I enjoy role-playing on games like Roblox and at one point among us. As someone who is nonbinary I banned them very quickly as well as reported them
I HATE it when people are like "but how can you be lesbian if you're nonbinary?" it's like stop gating the queer community!!!!!!
So quickly before I get into the video, just wanted to say love you Noah! You’re so cool and inspiring 💛
I Love the fact that you've helped so many trans ppl
This was a really good video, Noah. The Cut video itself was a bit uncomfortable to watch, as slurs in general make me very uncomfortable, as I’ve been called the f-slur in the past. Having said that, listening to the reactions and discussions of the people in the video was very interesting and informative!
I only just found out that it was a slur for trans people, I grew up with it being a slur for cross-dressers...which always just made me think about Tim Curry being fabulous.
We argue about words way too much in this community, PREACH!! 😂😭
Me ,a ftm trans bisexual, last night at my high school dance: (gets called 10 slurs and almost gets murder by seniors) "well time to get high"
I discovered trans people because there was a “man” who came out as a transgender woman, and I never knew the term trans until several years later. My parents are awesome, and my church was super accepting!
Your dad is right. I'm 34 and growing up , that word was use for men that crossed dressed x
I don't see why that word has to be a slur. I think you're right. We need to reclaim it.
I find it irritating when people try to police the words people use to refer to themselves. like they are saying 'you can't use that term for YOURSELF because it makes ME uncomfortable.' if it's not a term that person can reclaim I understand but if it is it's not really any of your business.
I’m a bi man and I agree that I’m allowed to say the f slur because I get called it all the time so I feel like I’m allowed to. I’ve had people say that I can’t say that because I’m not gay but I think it doesn’t matter what you are as long as the word is used against you.
By the way just wanted to let you know that Matt Walsh’s “what is a woman“ was advertised on your video.
Self proclaimed fascist matt walsh strikes again.
WHATTT
I'm a pan cis woman, I had no idea that that word was a slur. I don't call people outside their names anyway, but I'm glad I watched this video and now understand how painful it is to some people.
Freak
I'm trans and I feel similar to Noah. I don't mind using or hearing the word but its like being called the f slur. neither bother me because yeah, I'm pan, and I'm trans. I don't care and I don't think it is worth letting myself hate the words. but if I said either of which and someone said it made them uncomfortable I would stop because it's okay to not wanna be called/hear that. some people have negative experiences and trauma because of it and that's okay. I don't get triggered by words myself, but I understand why others do.
I'm from germany and we have a similar slur here. It was my first introduction to trans* as a whole and it definitely painted it as something othering/ostracizing and negative. It made me distance myself even from educating myself on trans*ness just because I didn't want to be assotiated with it. So I definitely would never use that term but power to everyone using it in a selfdescribing way or rebrands it (like the word queer was).
3:17 ah ... That is Erin Kyan. Ahhh
He is one of the Producers of the fabulous Love and Luck Podcast about a cute couple sending each other voicemails and having Magic.
A girl who I was in a play with called me the t-slur when she heard me and another cast member joking that I was his son. (I’m afab, don’t consider myself trans but I might be genderfluid) It was the first time I ever heard it and I was just so…confused? I didn’t know what it meant but I could tell that it was supposed to be hurtful. I think I even went, “What?” and she said it again. I could not fathom why she would act so disgusted over a completely innocent inside joke. And like I’m pretty sure she was better friends with the boy who made the joke than I was, so it was even more confusing.
i first heard the T-slur used as a shortening of the word 'Transmission', refering to the part in a car lol- i dont use that word tho
im trans, and sick, and the mucus in my throat is making me sound like a boy :)
BRU, why the hell did youtube unsubscribe me from you!?!? you are one of the only people i consistently watch on youtube😭
Same here... youtube has an agenda.
@@gazepskotzs4 i have always heard of people getting unsubscribed, but from a channel the frequent? Like what the hell!
Lol I'm using my LGBT phobic grandma's phone and RUclips account to comment this. Annnd I'm a trans guy and bisexual lol. I really love these videos and if my grandma sees this then I'm gonna be unalived but it's worth it lol. Annnnyway have a lovely day/night lovely people
i do that to!
I love watching you - You've helped me so much - even if i dont know my gender yet
Update: I'll just stick w being unlabelled
I don’t personally identify with trans tho I am non binary so I’ve never used it and never will. But this reminds me a lot of my relationship with the r slur as a disabled person whenever I hear that word from a non disabled person (I’ve heard many teen boys use it specifically) it just makes me tense and I just get filled with unbridled rage because to hear it thrown around so casually so nonchalantly- it hurts a lot. I imagine that’s what it feels like to many trans people so I have sympathy ❤
Honestly, when i heard t-slur for the first time i thought it was another way to say "Train" 😭
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Personally I use it when I’m making fun of myself in a trans context but I will never use it towards another person or around people who I know are uncontrollable about it.
I totally get the "I'm uncomfortable with you referring to yourself as [insert slur here]" like is the thought process of those people that those words SHOULD only be used to insult and demean? Like why should a specific group take the slur for them and respect that there is an insult specifically for them?
Tbh i feel like what matters is who's using it and their intention behind it, if a cis person called me that in a derogatory way ofc i would hate it, but if a fellow trans person was just jokingly/casually saying it then I'd go along with it, intention and context matter a l o t
Ive seen so many ppl say the f slur isn’t a slur and as someone who’s queer and has been called the f slur a lot growing up by classmates, it bothers me a lot. I also wanted to add that I am Bi so if people say Bi people aren’t effected by the f slur, they are very wrong.