especially when you think about how she thinks thats basically what being trans is. just putting on a shirt that says youre the 'opposite' sex. like she just transitioned by her own standards lmfao
@@loony2869 Rosie Parker lives in the UK. In the UK you cannot have trans surgery until the age of 18. I find it interesting though that if a doctor told your cousin at age 14 that he needs his tonsils or appendix out, your immediate reaction wouldn't be concern and refusal, but when it comes to trans healthcare, it is. It's almost like you don't believe it's real. The reason you have never experienced what your cousin does and can't understand it is because you aren't trans. I can't understand what it's like to have a diabetic ketoacidosis episode. But that doesn't mean I presume people having it are wrong about it.
Same. I don't understand how people think gay men like myself and Noah are apparently lesbians? I mean two guys together are the most non-lesbian thing I can think of.
and why'd she say that he can't be bisexual? last time I checked, anyone can ID as bisexual, whether they're cis or not (and yes I'm still using that language)
@@uszatku9417 It's ''he'' my love, it's not my problem you are transphobic, it's not that hard to respect ppls pronouns, you are just an asshole and it's not my problem to educate you on being trans, perhaps you could learn a bit about it and try to understand intsead of just hating on trans folk
She won't be saying we're girls when we have to enter the women's restroom and girls start seeing big burly men with beards in there and we hafya be like 'lol sry the govnmt wants us here cause we're apparently girls sowwy' edit: Can y'all chill tf out this was a joke comment edit 2: Avoid replying to people like Dead Horses or Stripes they're just little pissbaby trolls and you won't change their opinion by replying to them. Just ignore them. They'll get their slap in the face sooner or later.
Wait so... we should be okay with big burly actual men in the women's room, because otherwise we'll have to deal with a tiny minority of females who look like big burly men, but without the increased risk of being a sexual predator? Beards don't rape.
Who knows maybe she is but is so deep in the closet she's prejecting her self hatred on others. This happens with homophobic people the more off the wall homophobic they are the more suspicious it is lol.
That's probably because the word "cis" is related to dominant. What they probably hear is "look at yourself, you fucking cis male, shame on you". That what I heard when I first was called cis. Now, I don't care now that I'm more informed about what it means.
i mean yeah. some of em. bc some trans peeps dont hold their confidence on their gender together with a single piece of scotch tape. im not saying i have that confidence but some people do
@Citizen 1491 I don't agree, english, just like any other language, had to adapt to the changes in the world (new inventions, especially technology-wise*), and even though gender was always a spectrum, people only start to know/care about it enough now, to come up with their own terms for self expression. *for example stream had a different meaning before online streaming, but nobody complains about that, bc they don't really have a problem with changing the language, they just like to hate people
@@petraivan6778 OR why should 50% of the population change their language because you feel uncomfortable not being what woman means by definition, which is an adult human female.
@@ElliotGien what are you not understanding here? To not want to be called a non trans woman is perfectly straightforward, or is English not your first language?
Yeah, I'm still waiting for the regret and change of mind. Supposedly it happens between year 10 and 15 (I'm about to hit my 16th anniversary next month, maybe I'm doing it wrong...)
My mom thinks that we use "too many labels" and doesn't understand me expressing my perception of body and gender identity. I enjoy the fact I could have a biological child, not the baggage that comes with it. I am no woman, I am me, I am my name. My body is female, my mind is neutral, I wouldn't mind being a male. She raised me to be as free as a possible as a child and then feels weird having a non binary child/son/daughter? Also, I was "misgendered" like she used to be, and got euphoria from it. I yearn for being called a boy, just as being called a girl. I present as both. This woman is a bit trans phobic.
Literally almost exact same situation with me. Though after she beat me and kicked me out of the house for not doing enough chores, I think she has more problems than just with understanding me being trans... She called me a "traitor of the underdog gender", and shit like that. And it wasn't possible to explain it to her, the whole concept was just so foreign to her. Glad I'm living with my dad now.
This is so funny to me, like wtf is she on about “I have to change my whole language” she’s acting like we want her to say “cis woman” whenever she describes herself. You can still call yourself a woman “cis” is just the technical term. I find it insane that some people go out of their way to hate people when it’s so easy to be accepting
Yeah, it's the same with TERF's outrage about "people who menstruate". They seem to think, that we don't want to call women women anymore or are reducing them to their genitals, when in reality that terminology is the used the same way as "people with crooked toes", "people who own a prius", "people with breast cancer" or "people who collect star wars action figures". Somehow it's never threatening or dehumanizing with those examples but when you call them cis you are attacking their dignity or something..
Also the "do you have a period? No? Ur not a woman" Like what about cis women with medical problems? Are they suddenly men now? Are they trans men to you? Like why use that argument when it doesn't even make sense 😭
the escapist they’re literally just trying to make excuses to hate people who are different. Every argument they have against trans people falls apart as soon as you start to unpack it. Maybe it’s because they’re hmm... wrong!?
@@theescapist9450 also that logic completely validates trans men who don't get periods. the TERFs will totally shit themselves if they realise that lmao
If she has such a problem calling herself a “cis woman” and just wants to be called a woman, then just call “trans women”, women. Bam problem solved, no “confusing” prefixes for her small mind to comprehend.
Yeah like they also love to use terms related to being able to have children and that heavily erases cis women that cannot give birth and so on. It’s just a terrible lack of actual logic.
TERFs shouldn't even have "feminist" in their acronym, feminism should include ALL women. Intersectional feminism is the only feminism that does what feminism needs to do. I'm a cis woman. I'm a blonde woman. I'm a white woman. I'm a bi woman. These are all descriptors of me. "Cis" is just a word you can use to classify that you identify with the sex you were assigned at birth. It isn't an insult. It isn't an attack. It's an adjective.
It’s also interesting because feminist means women and men have equal rights. Men have equal rights to women. Trans or cis you have to support to be a feminist. Feminism is not women supremacy- women are not objectively better then men and men are not better then women trans or not. If your feminist you support every man and woman, trans and cis.
@@katwarren6058 it doesnt mean that. It means the struggle for women's liberation. It means centring women & issues affecting them. It isn't about men.
Catherine Whitaker I am an Alpha Asexual Heterosexual Natural Born Female, so anyone who tries to use the c word on me will likely experience my Blackout Rage.Listen up NEVER tell an NBF what she should be called most especially if you are NOT an NBF & if you are a Mitch Mouthpiece just hold your tongue!!!
@@Stephanie-lk5jf true you also have some sort of ciswaves and transwaves (i cant remember exactly how they are named) but the prefix is used in the same way.
I know... makes me want to say to her "Honey, have you ever worked behind a bar? Or in any job where you're one of only a teeny number of women in a male-dominated environment? I'm guessing no, or you'd realise what a chuffin' over-sensitive idiot you sound like."
@Citizen 1491 This is why I draw a distinction between growing old, growing up and growing wise. The former, inevitable, biological and horrible, the middle, emotional and slow, and the latter unlikely at the best of times.
No that's fair :P I mostly made that comment so Noah can look into it and try and get the money he deserves from the radio playing his song. (If he wants :P) It is super cool they are playing it tho :P
@@seeeeeaaaa Isn't the official explanation that the reduced size is a direct consequence of the existing of more organs? The same effect is visible in pations with oversized other organs or large tumors. The main point here is that the structure of the lungs is identical among all genders, while eg the structure of certain brain parts varies a lot between them.
It's not about you existing, its about putting what already exist into a box of stereotypes that makes you comfortable. When the word woman is used, never in history did it include trans women. Anatomy is how a woman has always been defined. This new concept of renaming what already exist is the problem many ppl have with being forced to acknowledge transppl. Taking the identity of a woman doesn't make trans woman women, it makes womanhood nothing. Can't identify as something with no identity.....
@@neverforget5350 Amazing, everything you just said was wrong, including the part where you say all the things you believe but just insist that it's actually us who believe it
@@neverforget5350 gender is a social construct a woman is someone who identifies as a woman and thats it no shit sherlock, when humans decided that saying uunga boonga isnt a good way to communicate they had to make up terms the word woman isnt nearly as fucking poetic as you think it is, it was created solely for it to be a category, and categories are very fluid and foreverchanging, frankly speaking not needed at all to function as a society because we have something called "sex" and "chromosomes" which are a better and more convenient scientific term to determine what sex someone is which determines their anatomy "woman" and "man" are simply two ways to describe someone, its not scientific and is an umbrella term using something called gender construct (which is again, society made, stop fucking using history and biology to be a cunt) , to accommodate every woman, regardless of sex, and every man, regardless of sex
"I'm a woman, that should be enough, right?" Right. If someone says they're a woman, they're a woman. You solved your own mystery. Wow. That's as simple as it is.
They try to say that calling them cis is offensive and reduces them down to their anatomy but look at trans people and reduce us down to our anatomy and talk about what we are biologically as if we arent already aware that there is a huge difference which is why we transition
Fire_ playz how can you even think for one second i’m talking about noah. i’ve been watching his videos since late 2017/early 2018. im literally trans myself. i thought my comment was pretty clear who it was directed to 😐
As a cis woman, I am so grateful that I was born in the correct body. I’m so sorry that trans women and trans men have to go through things like this, I fully support everyone stay strong :D
@@standup2982 they're not medically transitioning children. As someone studying to GO into the medical field, hormone blockers aren't a form of transitioning and they can actually be used for a number of issues besides just blocking the puberty hormones of trans or questioning children. They're also easily reversible by just simply not taking them for a while. Please, read up on the subject from unbiased and credible medical sources before you speak
@@standup2982 I'm aware, the law changed because some idiot went on testosterone and detransitioned and just assumed no one should be able to transition earlier than age 18. Which shows how uneducated that person was to begin with because HORMONE BLOCKERS aren't a form of transitioning testosterone and estrogen hormones are. It's real similar to people who say children shouldn't be on antidepressants or receive other life-changing surgeries or hormones besides testosterone.
Yes! And it seems like its her way to seek attention. If this is the way she learnd to get love from her famely, its clear why she is transphobic.. only human who knows is she..so hopefully some day she can heal whatever made her that way and maybe she will finaly be able to call herself cis.
@Amèlia Rueda Rodriguez you do know that in Sweden girls can get a double mastectomy at fifteen without parental consent, right? Fun fact, but keep it under your hat because it's top secret - there are other countries in the world as well as America.
I’m a trans woman who has no interest in sports, and who only uses unisex bathrooms instead of women’s bathrooms (because I’m too scared of TERFs and harassment). Surely by her logic she’d have no problem with me because I’m not “invading women’s spaces”. But she still hates *all* trans people because it’s not about logic, it’s about pettiness and her incessant need to be “right”. She proved that fact by admitting that she would never consider any sort of compromise. (Despite the fact that we shouldn’t even *need* to compromise on human rights.)
Her argument makes no sense. we have changed and adjusted language ever sense it was first created. It’s not that complex of an idea to say trans woman are woman. It’s intersectionality. There are different kinds of woman trans woman included. We can repurpose words and redefine in order strengthen and better understand a community. So why is it so hard to say that trans woman are woman. This is basic logic.
@MorCell Total sense! Our conception, understanding and knowledge of the world is in constant change. It's stupid to want to not accept the updates (calling out flat-earthers, tranphobes and the such).
> It’s not that complex of an idea to say trans woman are woman. Given that it's illogical, yes, it is actuall that complex to update my entire model of the world to account for A=Not-A being true. Redefining up as a kind of down strengthens nothing and improves no one's understanding.
"yeah transitioning has really been good for my mental heal, social life, etc." "b-but what about when you suddenly hate it and want to detransition, y-you know, like all trans people after 5 years of being happy with themselves??"
As a CIS bi woman - trans women are women. She doesn't get to make that decision for all of us, she needs to stop thinking she speaks for us all and listen to those she disagrees with
@@standup2982 please re read my comment - I did not tell anyone to shut up. I actually said that she needs to listen and understand there are many women who disagree with her which is the opposite of shutting women up
@@standup2982 you really need to read what you are responding to because it just looks like you are trying to start a fight about something I have not mentioned and don't care to be pulled into. Go back under your bridge, troll
The idea that anyone can change their name and assigning a particular gender to a name is arbitrary is a pretty common view for TERFs. They don't take an issue with the name changing. The more religious motivated transphobes will usually try to deadname people, but the TERFs generally won't. This can actually sometimes be a way to tell which point of view they're coming from when you see a transphobic comment or tweet
@@Shannon_Lynch I've seen lots of TERFs call Caitlin jenner by her birth name. Lots of TERFs call Charlotte Clymer by her birth name. It's lack of access to the birth name, I think, not a lack of issue.
@@nahicorua technically Noah with an h is usually a boy’s name and Noa without an h is usually a girl’s name. These name both come from Hebrew (נוח, נועה) where they are pronounced differently but because English doesn’t really have a “ch as in loch” sound people pronounce them the same.
Also why should I care what she finds offensive if she doesn't care what other people find offensive? You cant say "Rachel is a man," "I won't compromise to make other people feel comfortable," and still expect people to respect what YOU find offensive. The world doesn't revolve around you, sweetie. Stop giving feminism a bad name.
"He's a man, full stop. You know when people go 'why?' well, the lungs the muscle fibers" As a woman I can confirm that I don't have lungs OR muscle fibers
"STraIghT wOMaN nOaH" lmao that makes me laugh so much. and does she not realize that commenting on your videos will help your channel out (and also provide more content for videos lol). female body issues are mostly (i said mostly) trying to fit into what the society expects of them. trans men literally dont want to fit into those boxes cuz they arent girls. how hard is it to undestand?
I understand what u guys are saying but it actually goes the opposite way too. For example as a kid/teenager I saw what woman a should act like, look like and I hated and rejected it so strongly that I wanted to be more masculine n stuff. So I think it can have the opposite effect in which you try to be more like a man because of your insecurity. It's a thing but obviously being trans is very different then just being insecure.
The worst part is actually that body issues and being trans can get mixed up, I thought the reason I was so uncomfortable looking in a mirror was because of a lack of self confidence/ self love, nope, I’m trans. Took me years to figure that out, during which I tried my very hardest to fit into the gendered boxes and learn to love myself as I am and all that.
I've seen terfs brag about bullying gay trans men. So, they pretty much drop all pretense of "caring" about "women" as soon as they can't use the "confused lesbian" card.
PSA: You don’t have to understand or agree with somebody’s identity in order to respect it! You also don’t have to like somebody, to respect them. For example, I’m not the biggest fan of Caitlyn Jenner. Just my personal opinion. However, just because I don’t like her, am I gonna go around calling her Bruce or he? No! You know why? Cause I’m not a dick. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Just like how I don't like people who disown their LGBT kids or would kill every last member of it if they had their way, but I won't misgender them either.
I am cis woman, for those who don´t understand transitioning medically, I always make this argument. Would you go through serious surgeries that can end up in death and treatments that can affect your mental health as well as having many side effects just because you watch a dude online that look cool? Nobody would put their lives at risk if they would not feel the need to do so to be happy. No matter how often we see succesfull stories online, every trans person who transitions medically will sit in a room with a doctor and a document reading all the things that can go wrong. And that, my loves, is difficult as fuck.
Daysleeper I’m an Alpha Natural Born Female not a cis!! I had a large number of men sit in a room with me in a transformation studio & let it all hang out, well not literally.In this environment I heard their backstories, their lives, the where’s & why’s. Out of say 1,000 only 2 were maybe candidates for transition, 1 said he wouldn’t have gender reassignment survey because in his profession women get treated like s*it of the very few who pushed past the glass ceiling anyhow.Number 2 a shy, soft spoken, diminutive young man.His backstory was a very distressing one; sexually abused as a child by a close family member, it wasn’t just the appalling injury he inflicted on him bodily it was also the horrendous things he said to him.The only sense of self he had was the false one this pedophile had inflicted on him.Working through the maze of his mind he came to the realisation he wasn’t gay just because of what he experienced at the hands of his abuser & he didn’t look like a woman just because of his frame & the blame his abuser put on him.Now my concern is for the most vulnerable like victims of sexual abuse & especially Autistic young people.I had a hard enough time with going through puberty as an Alpha NBF, my own experiences at the hands of pedophiles added to that Autistic family members my insight tells me it is right to tread very carefully & explore every avenue in depth to know what the motivation is behind wanting such drastic changes to your body.
She was intentionally misrepresenting it. Nobody wants to use "uterus havers" as a general term for afabs. They're just mad because medical people are saying things like "It's critical that people with uteruses get check by a gynecologist, regardless of age" and such, instead of "women", because SMART people understand that afab enbies and trans men exist in addition to cis women, and also that it doesn't apply to cis women without uteruses..... Long story short, it's used in contexts where uteruses are the key topic and they don't want to make it about gender when it's not.
"...I will gladly loose my hearing willingly." Oh, don't do that! You'll miss out on Noah's music! He's really good -- I expect him to be famous (not just Internet famous) in two or three years.
I got onto her Instagram and there's literally nothing feminist about it. Every second post is about her harrassing LGTB people. Now I'm against violence, specially against elderly women, but...
It always amazes me how the issue of trans people in sports is thought of as a valid part of the discussion of trans validity. Sports is made up. Humans made it up. If anything sports is a prime example of how arbitrary the divisions are. Sports has age divisions, weight classes, and loads of rules to even the playing field. The rules are tweaked from time to time to make it more fun to watch or to appease advertisers. It's made up.
exactly, if people really wanted to make it fair, they should put classes for those particular "advantages", like they do with weight for wrestling for example
@@questrequested9171 hmmm… but they do. Have you ever watched sports? There are divisions based on age, weight, professional level, sex, physical capacity etc You won’t see an amateur competing against an Olympian, that’s not fair. You won’t see a handicap person competing against someone who is not handicap, it’s not fair. You won’t see a man competing against a woman, it’s not fair. You won’t see a 25 year old competing against a 10 year old, it’s not fair.
@@questrequested9171 lessens some of the muscle but not at the same level as a woman. The estrogen doesn’t reduce the heart size of a man, doesn’t reduce the lung size of a man, doesn’t reduce the hand size of a man, doesn’t reduce the bone density of a man. In general estrogen doesn’t reduce nor eliminates any of the physical attributes men are born with and have developed as men. Simple, and true, and not fair.
@@annas4843 transgender woman have been allowed in woman sports since 2004, and nowhere, *NOWHERE*, is there a transgender woman dominating every sport its very, *VERY* fair for them allowed to plya in it, it wouldnt be fair if they arent allowd in it
What if the transness is contagious? But seriously, anyone avoiding to have that conversation is terrified to be proven wrong because that would let them with only two options, to admit their bigotry and hatred or correct their point of view. Those are the only two possible outcomes so the only option for anyone that wants to avoid them both is to avoid all honest conversations on the topic and double down on their ignorant position.
Okay but her saying cis women "have to have a prefix" because trans women exist... no? You could just use the word "women" for all women and don't need a prefix. Problem sorted.
@@vee1193 Because it's stupid. I'm a cis woman born as one identify as one. In normal conversations I would just be referred to as "woman" "girl" etc. but if we are having a conversation about gender and sex then I will say that I am a cis woman which basically means not trans. I am not trans, cis means not trans. I don't understand why I wouldn't use the word cis. Why would being called a cis woman bother people?
Karasandra it’s just offensive that we’ve been pushed out of the definition of woman I guess. That we’re actually woman and yet in those conversations we’d have to refer to ourselves as cis to validate some men’s identities.
How great would it be if all Cis women just decided they don't claim her? Like, "no, we don't recognize her as a woman, she's in her own category now that is TERF". Because she's just as harmful to women as she is trans people, so she shouldn't be included until she can play nicely with the others.
@@cozywalrus7175 I personally know Kellie-Jay, was with her a week last Sunday. She's a friend of mine. You don't know her, at all. You're judging her on clips and propaganda posted by one person who has an agenda. Yet the trans ideology is asking to not be judged, actually not asking but insisting. Don't you think that's hypocritical?
Tilda Yeah & we her sisters love her right back it’s a woman to woman thing, you need to have been “born with a vagina”’ to understand what the bond is😉.We call it FEMALISM nowadays.
Honey your scars are non-existent they look amazing!!! You did a great job caring for them. Also I love your content and it really helps be able to understand my friends transitioning experience. Much gratitude 💖💕🙏
Also let's also state that trans women who medically transition can have less muscle mass than a cis man due to hormones. I've lost quite a bit of strength since I've started and I don't regret a thing
Not only can they have less muscle mass, most professional sport leagues and competition already have rules excluding trans that aren't on HRT or haven't been on HRT long enough to see those changes. Some even require medical proof of hormones levels and body mass distribution being the same than cis average. Add to that intersex people, there have been situations before where intersex Olympic athletes are affected by such rules. How is it that there are people who define gender as biological sex, being a binary and claim that us medically transitioning is mutilation but find unfair competing against someone that was assigned the same sex at birth than them and expect them to go through similar medical procedures than we use to make it fair? So medical transition it's fine if it is to FORCE an intersex into preconceived boxes but it's bad if it's a treatment that we need, that's possibly life-saving and that we are entirely willing to undergo. Some people just want to live in a bubble where everyone is exactly like them, where no one challenges their dogmas and if we do, we must adapt to their expectations inorder not to threat their preconceived notions.
@@standup2982 here me out. I used to be able to pick up over 140 lbs with no problem. Thats about my body weight. Now, weeks in hormones and not working out, 80 lbs is a MAJOR struggle. I cant even do it. I never worked out before I could pickup what I used to. Naturally I'm getting weaker, so why should I still compete with men if I can't do what I used to?
@@standup2982 you clearly don't understand the meaning of gender, no one is claiming they can change their biological sex, anymore than anyone can choose their gender. Trans-women are women because women is referring to gender, the trans in trans-women is accepting the biological sex not matching what was expected for that gender. However here is a crazy idea, how about if people wouldn't go out of their way just to discriminate against, disrespect, hurt, attack, bother or insult those that aren't harming them in any way? What if no one gave sht about what other people do with their own life as long as they are not harming anyone else? Would that really be a bad thing? No need to understand, no need to change yourself, just ignore what others do that doesn't affect you. Just live and let live.
The funny thing is, I mistook my dysphoria for body image issues for years before I came to terms with being trans ( I’m a non-binary trans person, afab). It was a big relief to understand the origin of my discomfort - so many things fell into place for me.
“It’s really offensive you think you can just stick on some clothes and demand I change the way I think.” I’m FTM. Early stages transition, no one look at me. I spent my WHOLE life up until NOW (19 years) dressing up and playing doll with my own body and identity. I did the photoshoots, I put on prom dresses, I wore bikinis and skirts and leotards and booty shorts. I let everyone call me “she” and “queen” and “bitch” and “girl” and “woman” and “lady” and I smiled politely. I was miserable. I hated myself. I hated my life. I hated the way people saw me. I got secretly angrier and angrier and sadder and sadder. I tried to kill myself. I cut myself. It wasn’t about the fact that I don’t want to be a woman. I’d love it if I could be a woman. I think women are beautiful and amazing and smart and powerful! I just *am not one*. It just *makes me feel bad* to have this body and live this way because it’s not how I FEEL. That’s all that matters. It’s NOT ABOUT YOU. It’s barely even about “gender” as a social construct. It’s about me. I just want to see me as I am. I just want people to see me as I am. I’m so tired. I finally feel hope for the first time in being FTM. I *tried* to stick on some clothes and demand something of myself and everyone else. It didn’t WORK. It was inauthentic. This is the Trans story, please, someone listen.
I am a transgender boy. And you were the one that help me with this and I could just watch your RUclips videos not feel like I'm the only one my mum and dad did not like it that I want to be a boy. So you are amazing person.
Okay Posie, I'm 30, and I massively regret the choices I've made about my gender. I should have listened to myself when I was 7 and thought about cutting off my willie with plastic scissors. Instead I'm just a 30 year old dork with a wimpy haircut and painted nails, who envy cries over a 10 year old photo of myself attending a birthday party with a cross dressing theme. I have now been referred to the gender clinic, and am just waiting to get an appointment. I look forward to becoming the very thing you seem to hate the most. A non-cis woman 🏳️⚧
She’s simultaneously offending “natural born women” whilst preaching about how transwomen are men by saying that women are “uterus havers.” It completely disregards females who may have been born without one or had hysterectomies.
Also the same argument against trans-women competing with cis-women it's used against intersex people inorder to FORCE them to undergo medical treatment (like HRT and/or gender affirming surgeries) in order to compete. Anyone that holds this argument considers the same procedures To be a good thing and even something needed and required for people naturally born with physical characteristics outside their preconceived boxes (regardless if they wish to have it or not) but wrong, evil, mutilation, unnatural and "bloody offensive" if we do it. ( I know she didn't mentioned intersex athletes in the video but there is no way to withhold the "trans-athletes" argument against us without having a double standard for intersex athletes. We need to start seeing the bigger picture and start moving towards equality, we can't do that by denying the existence of some people nor by having double and triple standards)
I think her point was she actually objects to women being called ‘uterus havers’. She wants women to be called women and to not include transwomen in that definition. Don’t shoot me. I just think you have the argument confused.
i just love it when people like her say "i don't want to change how i think for other people." like girl you are literally asking trans people to do just that.
I feel like people who tell trans people to basically just be cis are like people who tell someone with severe depression to "just be happy". Jee, thanks hadn't thought of that!
bro. she literally. she literally goes "oh yeah Noah, she" "oh Rachael, he" like you literally used their name but then misgendered them, you make no sense. just stop
Imagine writing the best selling series of books in history and then throwing all of _that shit_ away on hate. Can't fault them on their willingness to sacrifice, I suppose.
I understand it can be difficult to adjust to different pronouns and names etc, my younger sibling changed their name to Oliver and use they/them pronouns recently. It is a little awkward to begin with, but if you care about their wellbeing then it's worth putting in that effort to adjust. It's really not even that big of a deal and I find it really sad that some people are so stubborn and hateful about it
Amen. Adapting to change is difficult to some people, and I will never shame someone for struggling with it, but this does not give anyone the right to be disrespectful.
@@gimmemore9709 Hey look! A village idiot with no education on the fields of medicine and biology made an uninformed statement! We should all listened to him. Its actually funny because its socially acceptable and supported to accommodate to religious believes which are widely scientifically debunked but accommodation of trans people, who are backed by the scientific community to be valid in their self-identification, is somehow crazy. Thats why back in the day people were right to disrespect the village idiot, its just with modern conservative outrage over cancel culture that there is a push to take the village idiot seriously.
So do you always give in to other people's wishes, whims, and delusions? If you had a relative with schizophrenia, would you agree with them that their hallucinations were real instead of kindly telling them that they're not? Is your younger sibling going around saying that they are a man with period? Or a non-binary person with a period, even though your younger sibling is clearly a woman?
I just can't understand what people don't get: a woman is a woman, a man is a man, trans women ARE women and trans men ARE men why is that so hard to understand it is easy to respect peoples wishes by calling someone by their correct pronouns and their correct name it is easy to respect if someone wants to transition or not it is not anyone's right (but the person who is feeling this way) to tell them what to do. If you are not the one going through the difficulties then why are you judging and making comments. Do we really need to go back to primary school to relearn "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all"? Some people just need to sit themselves down and truly look at the things they are saying.
Okay but the fact that Posie Parker's cardigan is obstructing the lettering on her t-shirt so it now reads "man" is poetic.
She became a man by putting on a womens cardigan xDD (not actually of course, I just find the idea hilarious)
I thought about it as well-
especially when you think about how she thinks thats basically what being trans is. just putting on a shirt that says youre the 'opposite' sex. like she just transitioned by her own standards lmfao
@@somedude172 😂😂😂😂
@@loony2869 Rosie Parker lives in the UK. In the UK you cannot have trans surgery until the age of 18. I find it interesting though that if a doctor told your cousin at age 14 that he needs his tonsils or appendix out, your immediate reaction wouldn't be concern and refusal, but when it comes to trans healthcare, it is. It's almost like you don't believe it's real. The reason you have never experienced what your cousin does and can't understand it is because you aren't trans. I can't understand what it's like to have a diabetic ketoacidosis episode. But that doesn't mean I presume people having it are wrong about it.
Just started this and I'm wondering how he is a confused lesbian.
He is a man who likes men. Very un-lesbian of him
Same. I don't understand how people think gay men like myself and Noah are apparently lesbians? I mean two guys together are the most non-lesbian thing I can think of.
and why'd she say that he can't be bisexual? last time I checked, anyone can ID as bisexual, whether they're cis or not (and yes I'm still using that language)
Plus, even trying to call a gay man a woman, wouldn't they be straight? Gay man is NOT a lesbian woman, lmao.
Might be the most unlesbian you could get...
Maybe its just me, but whenever I watch Noah's videos he always seems to scream "gay guy" to me.
Definitely a guy though. 🤷🏻♀️
“Has she like detransitioned from being a terf” I DIED
''Confused lesbian'' He has a boyfriend-
exactly i was so confused😭
Exactly what I was gonna say xdd
@@uszatku9417 no
@@uszatku9417 It's ''he'' my love, it's not my problem you are transphobic, it's not that hard to respect ppls pronouns, you are just an asshole and it's not my problem to educate you on being trans, perhaps you could learn a bit about it and try to understand intsead of just hating on trans folk
@@uszatku9417 he
Noah: Was going to be Cavetown but no. Then it was going to be YUNGBLUD, bug no. Now TERFS.
I HAD NO TIME TO FILM A PROPER COVER AFTER TRYING BOTH OF THEM TODAY! WILL TRY AGAIN SOON! V BUSY BOY!
NoahFinnce please do strawberry lipstick 🥺🍓
CAVETOWN❤️❤️❤️
#thatescalatedquickly 😂
@@m44t_ter69 take it easy on me
please, no one tell her that “cis” and “trans” are also terms used in chemistry to describe certain kinds of molecules.
Haha that's how I memorised it for my finals
am I a molecule
😂😂😂
@@vee1193 Always have been.
Omg-
She won't be saying we're girls when we have to enter the women's restroom and girls start seeing big burly men with beards in there and we hafya be like 'lol sry the govnmt wants us here cause we're apparently girls sowwy'
edit:
Can y'all chill tf out this was a joke comment
edit 2:
Avoid replying to people like Dead Horses or Stripes they're just little pissbaby trolls and you won't change their opinion by replying to them. Just ignore them. They'll get their slap in the face sooner or later.
🤣🤣🤣soowwwwyyyy
"yeah, lemme just shave my beard and regrow boobs so i can take a shit in the room i was legally assigned to shit in"
You mean pin.it/4VeLQG8 ?
@@MagicXRoads534 yes. exactly that. right down to the guy's expression and everything lmao
Wait so... we should be okay with big burly actual men in the women's room, because otherwise we'll have to deal with a tiny minority of females who look like big burly men, but without the increased risk of being a sexual predator? Beards don't rape.
literally her whole argument is "trans not exist" "it not real"
What chromosomes does this individual have?
@@nick-her9275 Not sure how that's relevant but who knows. Not everyone gets them checked.
@@nick-her9275 Do you know exactly what's yours?
@@hquq77q85 yeah i know mine are XY unlike hers which are XX
@@nick-her9275 he, and I'll ask you again how do you know ?
So... Her main argument is "no" ?
Lmao
Her argument is literally “trans women aren’t women because I SAID SO.”
Did you expect an intelligent argument?
She is literally the Meghan Trainor of TERFS.
@@risky_busine55 I guess I shouldn’t of but maybe I did I have no idea what I expected but that wasn’t it
Everyone probably needs some positivity after this video so have this mushroom: 🍄💕
Thankyou for the mushroom :) :D
thank youu :)
This comment is so pure.
Mushrooms my favourite... for legal reasons this is a joke. 😚🙂
I feel the need to give you something back so here you go 👾
If she is offended by being called “non-trans” surely that means she is trans...
What do you mean? @_@
@@kshrvpz1587 They mean that you can't be offended by being called non-trans if you actually are. They've gotta be trans to think that way.
And that’s why it said man on her shirt O:
Who knows maybe she is but is so deep in the closet she's prejecting her self hatred on others. This happens with homophobic people the more off the wall homophobic they are the more suspicious it is lol.
luna Fairywolf Yh- like internalised transphobia
She literally just went
No❤️
To something she doesn't even understand
i don’t get why some cis people hate being called cis, like it’s literally what u are or would u rather me call u trans? make it make sense pls
Agreed
Mycel mhm
They want to be called "normal" 😂
@@anushka-ij1jf yeah, I know that. It was a joke😂. I'm with you 💪🏻
That's probably because the word "cis" is related to dominant. What they probably hear is "look at yourself, you fucking cis male, shame on you". That what I heard when I first was called cis. Now, I don't care now that I'm more informed about what it means.
Posie Parker: Purposely misgenders trans women to try and prove a point
Literally everyone: *wierd flex but okay*
Except its more like "weird flex, you need to stop."
@@janeylaney494 yes
i mean yeah. some of em. bc some trans peeps dont hold their confidence on their gender together with a single piece of scotch tape. im not saying i have that confidence but some people do
She is talking about how changing the language is bad. But if a language stops developing it dies, like latin.
Tell u what you're not wrong...
@Citizen 1491 I don't agree, english, just like any other language, had to adapt to the changes in the world (new inventions, especially technology-wise*), and even though gender was always a spectrum, people only start to know/care about it enough now, to come up with their own terms for self expression.
*for example stream had a different meaning before online streaming, but nobody complains about that, bc they don't really have a problem with changing the language, they just like to hate people
@@petraivan6778 brilliant.... your comment is brilliant! You're absolutely right!!
@@petraivan6778 OR why should 50% of the population change their language because you feel uncomfortable not being what woman means by definition, which is an adult human female.
@@standup2982 does that mean that you would be ok with me referring to you as a malicious, inconsiderate person? Bc that's you, by definition.
“Wanted me to join the 41% of trans people that...”
Me: detransition? I thought it was way less then that.
“Long pause”
Me: oh
Me: *oh no*
Well... silver lining... that number is for attempts, not deaths. I know, it's still dismal...
@@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice i looked it up and my heart literally dropped..
Yeah...
I don’t get it. Can you explain?
@@ThatUnusualNationalist statistically, 41% of trans people attempt commiting suicide in their life.
Posy: *is very clearly adamant she's not a trans woman*
also posy: *is offended by people calling her not a trans woman*
And? Are you really that stupid that you don't understand?
Stand Up What are we not understanding? Please explain why she says she’s not trans but doesn’t want to be called not trans 🥰
@@ElliotGien woman, nothing more, nothing less.
Stand Up but she’s literally not trans... obviously she’d only be called “not trans” in certain circumstances and she’d be called a woman most times..
@@ElliotGien what are you not understanding here? To not want to be called a non trans woman is perfectly straightforward, or is English not your first language?
This woman is literally the gender version of that birb meme: "Why am Mad When Not About Me?????"
Because not about me, and all is about me.
As a trans person who is 25 : you dont change you just feel old
Bahahah 😭
I’m 41 and my 24yr old daughter is going make me a Granny by the end of the year, THAT makes you feel old!! Lol xx
As a fellow tran who's 26: yep
Yeah, I'm still waiting for the regret and change of mind. Supposedly it happens between year 10 and 15 (I'm about to hit my 16th anniversary next month, maybe I'm doing it wrong...)
29yo trans masc here, zero regrets and lots of euphoria
Her reasoning is literally
"I don't like it so you can't have it."
Pretty much the "because I said so" attitude
"this is something I'm not used to therefore I refuse to accept it's a thing because I dont want to" it just sounds ridiculous like a stubborn child
Noah: A guy who like guys
TERFs: hE's A lEsBiAn
iT'S ShEeEee!!!111
ah yes me too, a cis lesbian, like guys.
I thought he was eurapean??? Lol im sory
@@dontworyaboutitdontworyabo8996 legally blonde reference?
Tal I think it’s in reference to that vine:
“I’m lesbian”
“I though you were American”
My best friends mom is a TERF, and every time she tells me something new she said I just wanna die....
Same
My mom thinks that we use "too many labels" and doesn't understand me expressing my perception of body and gender identity. I enjoy the fact I could have a biological child, not the baggage that comes with it. I am no woman, I am me, I am my name. My body is female, my mind is neutral, I wouldn't mind being a male. She raised me to be as free as a possible as a child and then feels weird having a non binary child/son/daughter? Also, I was "misgendered" like she used to be, and got euphoria from it. I yearn for being called a boy, just as being called a girl. I present as both. This woman is a bit trans phobic.
Literally almost exact same situation with me. Though after she beat me and kicked me out of the house for not doing enough chores, I think she has more problems than just with understanding me being trans...
She called me a "traitor of the underdog gender", and shit like that. And it wasn't possible to explain it to her, the whole concept was just so foreign to her. Glad I'm living with my dad now.
@@pinkbunny6272 she's correct and you're confused.
@@standup2982 She's wrong you're confused
This is so funny to me, like wtf is she on about “I have to change my whole language” she’s acting like we want her to say “cis woman” whenever she describes herself. You can still call yourself a woman “cis” is just the technical term. I find it insane that some people go out of their way to hate people when it’s so easy to be accepting
Yeah, it's the same with TERF's outrage about "people who menstruate". They seem to think, that we don't want to call women women anymore or are reducing them to their genitals, when in reality that terminology is the used the same way as "people with crooked toes", "people who own a prius", "people with breast cancer" or "people who collect star wars action figures".
Somehow it's never threatening or dehumanizing with those examples but when you call them cis you are attacking their dignity or something..
Rexxy exactly! It’s literally just a technical descriptor
Also the "do you have a period? No? Ur not a woman"
Like what about cis women with medical problems? Are they suddenly men now? Are they trans men to you? Like why use that argument when it doesn't even make sense 😭
the escapist they’re literally just trying to make excuses to hate people who are different. Every argument they have against trans people falls apart as soon as you start to unpack it. Maybe it’s because they’re hmm... wrong!?
@@theescapist9450 also that logic completely validates trans men who don't get periods. the TERFs will totally shit themselves if they realise that lmao
If she has such a problem calling herself a “cis woman” and just wants to be called a woman, then just call “trans women”, women. Bam problem solved, no “confusing” prefixes for her small mind to comprehend.
amen.
Trans women are women
but transwomen are men
@@cabal3508 Male to female trans are women, and vice versa
But trans women are men (or a sort of ‘subset’ of men).
if she calls women “uterus-havers” then what about woman without a uterus?
Mr. Clean she's saying women are called uterus havers and that women shouldn't be called that.
Do try to keep up.
@@catherinewhitaker6226 Do people like you really think TERF is an insult? Hahahahaha nowadays is a complement. 😂
@Brett Wagland thank you, yes it is.
Yeah like they also love to use terms related to being able to have children and that heavily erases cis women that cannot give birth and so on. It’s just a terrible lack of actual logic.
@@Owlways-sleepy receipts please.
"was posie parker her terf alter-ego? did she detransition from being a terf?" SFHKDFLANF
"Straight woman Noah" is my sleep paralysis deamon
lmaooooooooo
Lol
TERFs shouldn't even have "feminist" in their acronym, feminism should include ALL women. Intersectional feminism is the only feminism that does what feminism needs to do.
I'm a cis woman. I'm a blonde woman. I'm a white woman. I'm a bi woman. These are all descriptors of me. "Cis" is just a word you can use to classify that you identify with the sex you were assigned at birth. It isn't an insult. It isn't an attack. It's an adjective.
Intersectional feminism needs to be essential. Too many feminists are racists, transphobes and ignorant of their white privilege.
It’s also interesting because feminist means women and men have equal rights. Men have equal rights to women. Trans or cis you have to support to be a feminist. Feminism is not women supremacy- women are not objectively better then men and men are not better then women trans or not. If your feminist you support every man and woman, trans and cis.
@@katwarren6058 it doesnt mean that. It means the struggle for women's liberation. It means centring women & issues affecting them. It isn't about men.
Catherine Whitaker I am an Alpha Asexual Heterosexual Natural Born Female, so anyone who tries to use the c word on me will likely experience my Blackout Rage.Listen up NEVER tell an NBF what she should be called most especially if you are NOT an NBF & if you are a Mitch Mouthpiece just hold your tongue!!!
@@LizRoe-ky4hr c word? Like... cis? Cus that's what you are
the whole 'cisgender is a slur' thing or whatever makes my brain cells acc die
Uh-oh, doesn't seem you can afford to lose any more
@@ojyochan Uh-oh, it seems you have none left
i’m pretty sure cis came from latin and just means same side as (well around that, you get the idea) and it’s just the opposite of trans lol
@@Stephanie-lk5jf true you also have some sort of ciswaves and transwaves (i cant remember exactly how they are named) but the prefix is used in the same way.
I know... makes me want to say to her "Honey, have you ever worked behind a bar? Or in any job where you're one of only a teeny number of women in a male-dominated environment? I'm guessing no, or you'd realise what a chuffin' over-sensitive idiot you sound like."
Posie's whole argument seems to be a thinly veiled 'But I don't wanna!'. Like, grow the heck up.
She doesn't have to.
excatly lmao
I mean, at the end of the day, that is essentially the GC platform when you boil it down to its essentials.
@Alex Alicea fucking obviously asshole! people like her would not exist if everyone had to be kind to trans people!
@Citizen 1491 This is why I draw a distinction between growing old, growing up and growing wise. The former, inevitable, biological and horrible, the middle, emotional and slow, and the latter unlikely at the best of times.
"ah yes, the *male* lungs, yeah." i seriously cant sTOP LAUGHING
This is the same type of woman who would have an emotional breakdown if a hyper-masculine trans man entered into a women's space.
Exactly
Just want to inform that underachiver is played in danish radio. im proud :')
WOAH REALLG
@@NOAHFINNCE YES :0
Shouldn't Noah be getting royalties then?🤔
@@carleegg5506 idk how it works, but they played it bc I suggested it to the radio.
No that's fair :P I mostly made that comment so Noah can look into it and try and get the money he deserves from the radio playing his song. (If he wants :P) It is super cool they are playing it tho :P
You know it's bad when the only thing coming out of her mouth that makes sense is literally about men having lungs
Oh but she didn't just mean lungs.... she meant MAN LUNGS 🤣
trans women get their lungs removed
@jift yeah, afab people don’t have lungs. It’s a ✨guy thing.✨
Man i have such breathing dysphoria. My gills make me feel so unmanly :/
Only men have lungs? I think NOT
I loved his comment: "Oh yeah, the male lungs...."
@@seeeeeaaaa 😂true story😂
@@seeeeeaaaa Isn't the official explanation that the reduced size is a direct consequence of the existing of more organs? The same effect is visible in pations with oversized other organs or large tumors.
The main point here is that the structure of the lungs is identical among all genders, while eg the structure of certain brain parts varies a lot between them.
@@seeeeeaaaa Why does that even matter?
@@seeeeeaaaa size varies anyway so that's irrelevant. The structures are still the same
@@seeeeeaaaa "in this study"? what?
I think its funny that they think we are "snowflakes" and "sensitive" and yet they get so upset by us just existing.
It's not about you existing, its about putting what already exist into a box of stereotypes that makes you comfortable. When the word woman is used, never in history did it include trans women. Anatomy is how a woman has always been defined. This new concept of renaming what already exist is the problem many ppl have with being forced to acknowledge transppl. Taking the identity of a woman doesn't make trans woman women, it makes womanhood nothing. Can't identify as something with no identity.....
@@neverforget5350 actually there were trans people in history we just don't get taught it in school. Look it up if you don't believe me.
@@neverforget5350 Amazing, everything you just said was wrong, including the part where you say all the things you believe but just insist that it's actually us who believe it
@@neverforget5350 gender is a social construct
a woman is someone who identifies as a woman and thats it
no shit sherlock, when humans decided that saying uunga boonga isnt a good way to communicate they had to make up terms
the word woman isnt nearly as fucking poetic as you think it is, it was created solely for it to be a category, and categories are very fluid and foreverchanging, frankly speaking not needed at all to function as a society because we have something called "sex" and "chromosomes" which are a better and more convenient scientific term to determine what sex someone is which determines their anatomy
"woman" and "man" are simply two ways to describe someone, its not scientific and is an umbrella term using something called gender construct (which is again, society made, stop fucking using history and biology to be a cunt) , to accommodate every woman, regardless of sex, and every man, regardless of sex
She is so infuriating. The way she so casually shrugs off trans struggles as 'nonsensical' and 'ludicrous'.
Ayy early. Watching YT bc I just had top surgery and am relaxing.
Edit: Thank you all for the kind words, it means a lot to me. 💕
congrats on getting top surgery!
Congratulations!!
Congratulations on getting top surgery! 🎉
congrats!
Congrats man, good luck on your recovery
nobody:
Noah: Your shirt says man!😂
(don't be a terf)
"I'm a woman, that should be enough, right?"
Right. If someone says they're a woman, they're a woman. You solved your own mystery. Wow. That's as simple as it is.
🤯
They try to say that calling them cis is offensive and reduces them down to their anatomy but look at trans people and reduce us down to our anatomy and talk about what we are biologically as if we arent already aware that there is a huge difference which is why we transition
Ohhh the hypocrisy!
i didn’t know who this woman was until now. my god she’s actually obsessed. she pisses me off.
Are u talking about Noah!?! Cause if so it's HE
Fire_ playz how can you even think for one second i’m talking about noah. i’ve been watching his videos since late 2017/early 2018. im literally trans myself. i thought my comment was pretty clear who it was directed to 😐
that’s exactly how i feel
She also works with white nationalists and anti-gay/anti-reproductive rights groups
"I HATE THE PATRIARCHY, anyway not the point of this video"
Why is this me in real life
As a cis woman, I am so grateful that I was born in the correct body. I’m so sorry that trans women and trans men have to go through things like this, I fully support everyone stay strong :D
Thank you! This is so kind! I appreciate this. Stay strong too ilysm!
We love an active ally!
thank you! this actually means so much and actually gives me some hope
"ThEy cAlLeD mE a NoN tRaNsWoMaN" well would you rather they called you a transwoman?
Women is just fine.
@@standup2982 you have no eyebrows or lips go worry about that beloved
@@standup2982 they're not medically transitioning children. As someone studying to GO into the medical field, hormone blockers aren't a form of transitioning and they can actually be used for a number of issues besides just blocking the puberty hormones of trans or questioning children. They're also easily reversible by just simply not taking them for a while. Please, read up on the subject from unbiased and credible medical sources before you speak
@@hunter-denisejohnson8205 not anymore they're not, not in England and Wales, after the law changed.
I suggest you look into that.
@@standup2982 I'm aware, the law changed because some idiot went on testosterone and detransitioned and just assumed no one should be able to transition earlier than age 18. Which shows how uneducated that person was to begin with because HORMONE BLOCKERS aren't a form of transitioning testosterone and estrogen hormones are. It's real similar to people who say children shouldn't be on antidepressants or receive other life-changing surgeries or hormones besides testosterone.
Terf: DETRANSITION NOW!! 🤬🤬😡
Noah: no
Terf: how dARE YOU
She sounds like a little child who tells lies as they are true and doesn't want to change her opinion, just because she just bloody won't.
Yes! And it seems like its her way to seek attention. If this is the way she learnd to get love from her famely, its clear why she is transphobic.. only human who knows is she..so hopefully some day she can heal whatever made her that way and maybe she will finaly be able to call herself cis.
Women, noun, adult human female. Simple, and true.
@Amèlia Rueda Rodriguez that's not in the dictionary, try and grow up
@Amèlia Rueda Rodriguez I was referring to hormones, but you'd have known that if you'd read it properly.
@Amèlia Rueda Rodriguez you do know that in Sweden girls can get a double mastectomy at fifteen without parental consent, right?
Fun fact, but keep it under your hat because it's top secret - there are other countries in the world as well as America.
I’m a trans woman who has no interest in sports, and who only uses unisex bathrooms instead of women’s bathrooms (because I’m too scared of TERFs and harassment). Surely by her logic she’d have no problem with me because I’m not “invading women’s spaces”. But she still hates *all* trans people because it’s not about logic, it’s about pettiness and her incessant need to be “right”.
She proved that fact by admitting that she would never consider any sort of compromise. (Despite the fact that we shouldn’t even *need* to compromise on human rights.)
Her argument makes no sense. we have changed and adjusted language ever sense it was first created. It’s not that complex of an idea to say trans woman are woman. It’s intersectionality. There are different kinds of woman trans woman included. We can repurpose words and redefine in order strengthen and better understand a community. So why is it so hard to say that trans woman are woman. This is basic logic.
@MorCell Total sense! Our conception, understanding and knowledge of the world is in constant change. It's stupid to want to not accept the updates (calling out flat-earthers, tranphobes and the such).
> It’s not that complex of an idea to say trans woman are woman.
Given that it's illogical, yes, it is actuall that complex to update my entire model of the world to account for A=Not-A being true. Redefining up as a kind of down strengthens nothing and improves no one's understanding.
@MorCell christian bookburning lead to ignorance. cults do that.
because they are men.
Basic biology will tell you that no woman has a penis.
I think my brain melted trying to understand how she thinks.
On Urban Dictinory one of the describtions for TERFs starts with "vagina cult" and I love it.
Urban Dictionary is like The Onion of online sources. And that's why I love it.
"yeah transitioning has really been good for my mental heal, social life, etc."
"b-but what about when you suddenly hate it and want to detransition, y-you know, like all trans people after 5 years of being happy with themselves??"
"I am finally happy in my own body and my mental health and massively improved."
"But aren't you scared it's permanent?"
As a CIS bi woman - trans women are women. She doesn't get to make that decision for all of us, she needs to stop thinking she speaks for us all and listen to those she disagrees with
Stop telling women to shut up. We are allowed to speak biological truth.
@@standup2982 please re read my comment - I did not tell anyone to shut up. I actually said that she needs to listen and understand there are many women who disagree with her which is the opposite of shutting women up
@@Jordyb33123 and you don't get to say we're not entitled to our sex based rights, which are protected by the equality act.
@@standup2982 you really need to read what you are responding to because it just looks like you are trying to start a fight about something I have not mentioned and don't care to be pulled into. Go back under your bridge, troll
@@Jordyb33123 if you can't see the absolute relevance then you should at least try and educate yourself before calling women trolls.
I love how she calls him "she" and a "girl" but still calls him Noah
Edit: thanks for commenting, I think I understand now
The idea that anyone can change their name and assigning a particular gender to a name is arbitrary is a pretty common view for TERFs. They don't take an issue with the name changing.
The more religious motivated transphobes will usually try to deadname people, but the TERFs generally won't. This can actually sometimes be a way to tell which point of view they're coming from when you see a transphobic comment or tweet
Matthew Lynch thanks for informing me
@@Shannon_Lynch I've seen lots of TERFs call Caitlin jenner by her birth name. Lots of TERFs call Charlotte Clymer by her birth name. It's lack of access to the birth name, I think, not a lack of issue.
I mean noah is a unisex name anyway but I guess it's only because she doesn't know his birthname...
@@nahicorua technically Noah with an h is usually a boy’s name and Noa without an h is usually a girl’s name. These name both come from Hebrew (נוח, נועה) where they are pronounced differently but because English doesn’t really have a “ch as in loch” sound people pronounce them the same.
Its really bloody offensive
noah: its really bloody offensive😁
OFFENSIVE TO WHO?! That's what I want to know.
Also why should I care what she finds offensive if she doesn't care what other people find offensive? You cant say "Rachel is a man," "I won't compromise to make other people feel comfortable," and still expect people to respect what YOU find offensive. The world doesn't revolve around you, sweetie. Stop giving feminism a bad name.
@@kitkatjames3558 you're so right
noahfinnce
"He's a man, full stop. You know when people go 'why?' well, the lungs the muscle fibers"
As a woman I can confirm that I don't have lungs OR muscle fibers
"STraIghT wOMaN nOaH" lmao that makes me laugh so much. and does she not realize that commenting on your videos will help your channel out (and also provide more content for videos lol).
female body issues are mostly (i said mostly) trying to fit into what the society expects of them. trans men literally dont want to fit into those boxes cuz they arent girls. how hard is it to undestand?
Exactly like usually it's "I want boobs like the women around me I want smooth legs I want-"
Like posie really don't know what she talkin about
I understand what u guys are saying but it actually goes the opposite way too. For example as a kid/teenager I saw what woman a should act like, look like and I hated and rejected it so strongly that I wanted to be more masculine n stuff. So I think it can have the opposite effect in which you try to be more like a man because of your insecurity. It's a thing but obviously being trans is very different then just being insecure.
The worst part is actually that body issues and being trans can get mixed up, I thought the reason I was so uncomfortable looking in a mirror was because of a lack of self confidence/ self love, nope, I’m trans. Took me years to figure that out, during which I tried my very hardest to fit into the gendered boxes and learn to love myself as I am and all that.
I've seen terfs brag about bullying gay trans men. So, they pretty much drop all pretense of "caring" about "women" as soon as they can't use the "confused lesbian" card.
PSA: You don’t have to understand or agree with somebody’s identity in order to respect it! You also don’t have to like somebody, to respect them. For example, I’m not the biggest fan of Caitlyn Jenner. Just my personal opinion. However, just because I don’t like her, am I gonna go around calling her Bruce or he? No! You know why? Cause I’m not a dick. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Exactly. I can't stand Caitlyn, but I'd never misgender her.
exactly. i personally think trans is valid but even if you don’t there’s no need to misgender someone just because you don’t agree with them
Just like how I don't like people who disown their LGBT kids or would kill every last member of it if they had their way, but I won't misgender them either.
Wow, I’m cis and can barely watch this stuff. It’s so nice to have you there to react to the bat sh*t craziness!
"has she like de-transitioned from being a terf?" haha love it
I am cis woman, for those who don´t understand transitioning medically, I always make this argument. Would you go through serious surgeries that can end up in death and treatments that can affect your mental health as well as having many side effects just because you watch a dude online that look cool? Nobody would put their lives at risk if they would not feel the need to do so to be happy. No matter how often we see succesfull stories online, every trans person who transitions medically will sit in a room with a doctor and a document reading all the things that can go wrong. And that, my loves, is difficult as fuck.
Daysleeper I’m an Alpha Natural Born Female not a cis!! I had a large number of men sit in a room with me in a transformation studio & let it all hang out, well not literally.In this environment I heard their backstories, their lives, the where’s & why’s. Out of say 1,000 only 2 were maybe candidates for transition, 1 said he wouldn’t have gender reassignment survey because in his profession women get treated like s*it of the very few who pushed past the glass ceiling anyhow.Number 2 a shy, soft spoken, diminutive young man.His backstory was a very distressing one; sexually abused as a child by a close family member, it wasn’t just the appalling injury he inflicted on him bodily it was also the horrendous things he said to him.The only sense of self he had was the false one this pedophile had inflicted on him.Working through the maze of his mind he came to the realisation he wasn’t gay just because of what he experienced at the hands of his abuser & he didn’t look like a woman just because of his frame & the blame his abuser put on him.Now my concern is for the most vulnerable like victims of sexual abuse & especially Autistic young people.I had a hard enough time with going through puberty as an Alpha NBF, my own experiences at the hands of pedophiles added to that Autistic family members my insight tells me it is right to tread very carefully & explore every avenue in depth to know what the motivation is behind wanting such drastic changes to your body.
@@LizRoe-ky4hr that meandering alpha female screed of disjointed trauma is peak "should be in therapy rather than in the comments section"
ARE YOU A TERF?
no❤️
never
No lol
no ofc not
no❤️
the fact that you have a place to sit when you’re upset-
Ah yes of course, I, a 41-year-old man who’s been trans since ‘79 and transitioned in ‘05, am definitely T R O U B L E D and I need HELP
you go dude!
Well she is just a bundle of joy isn’t she....... How dare anyone call her a non trans woman. How dare anyone use factual terminology
I swear if I hear someone say “uterus Havers,” I will gladly loose my hearing willingly.
Is this the equivalent of bleaching your eyes?
She was intentionally misrepresenting it. Nobody wants to use "uterus havers" as a general term for afabs. They're just mad because medical people are saying things like "It's critical that people with uteruses get check by a gynecologist, regardless of age" and such, instead of "women", because SMART people understand that afab enbies and trans men exist in addition to cis women, and also that it doesn't apply to cis women without uteruses..... Long story short, it's used in contexts where uteruses are the key topic and they don't want to make it about gender when it's not.
@@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice oh-ngl I forgot I even commented this XD
@@audreydoyle5268 basically XD
"...I will gladly loose my hearing willingly."
Oh, don't do that! You'll miss out on Noah's music! He's really good -- I expect him to be famous (not just Internet famous) in two or three years.
She is not even a terf because she openly admitted not even being a feminist
ter
I got onto her Instagram and there's literally nothing feminist about it. Every second post is about her harrassing LGTB people.
Now I'm against violence, specially against elderly women, but...
@@muchahonra2b but what exactly?
Pinkpowerpinnepop teri the i stands for idiot
It always amazes me how the issue of trans people in sports is thought of as a valid part of the discussion of trans validity. Sports is made up. Humans made it up. If anything sports is a prime example of how arbitrary the divisions are.
Sports has age divisions, weight classes, and loads of rules to even the playing field. The rules are tweaked from time to time to make it more fun to watch or to appease advertisers. It's made up.
exactly, if people really wanted to make it fair, they should put classes for those particular "advantages", like they do with weight for wrestling for example
@@questrequested9171 hmmm… but they do.
Have you ever watched sports?
There are divisions based on age, weight, professional level, sex, physical capacity etc
You won’t see an amateur competing against an Olympian, that’s not fair.
You won’t see a handicap person competing against someone who is not handicap, it’s not fair.
You won’t see a man competing against a woman, it’s not fair.
You won’t see a 25 year old competing against a 10 year old, it’s not fair.
@@annas4843 so tell me why transgenders should be banned then.
because the estrogen lessens the muscle mass. so it is fair
@@questrequested9171 lessens some of the muscle but not at the same level as a woman.
The estrogen doesn’t reduce the heart size of a man, doesn’t reduce the lung size of a man, doesn’t reduce the hand size of a man, doesn’t reduce the bone density of a man.
In general estrogen doesn’t reduce nor eliminates any of the physical attributes men are born with and have developed as men.
Simple, and true, and not fair.
@@annas4843 transgender woman have been allowed in woman sports since 2004, and nowhere, *NOWHERE*, is there a transgender woman dominating every sport
its very, *VERY* fair for them allowed to plya in it, it wouldnt be fair if they arent allowd in it
If only they TRIED to talk to trans people like actual human beings
What if the transness is contagious?
But seriously, anyone avoiding to have that conversation is terrified to be proven wrong because that would let them with only two options, to admit their bigotry and hatred or correct their point of view. Those are the only two possible outcomes so the only option for anyone that wants to avoid them both is to avoid all honest conversations on the topic and double down on their ignorant position.
This has angered me to a level that I didn’t realise I could be angered to
Okay but her saying cis women "have to have a prefix" because trans women exist... no? You could just use the word "women" for all women and don't need a prefix. Problem sorted.
Also her saying "trans women" are not women like buddddyyyyy
If u trans women it's a Lil late to try and backtrack to be a dick 😭
Why do you get offended when we refuse to use cis then?
@@vee1193 Because it's stupid. I'm a cis woman born as one identify as one. In normal conversations I would just be referred to as "woman" "girl" etc. but if we are having a conversation about gender and sex then I will say that I am a cis woman which basically means not trans. I am not trans, cis means not trans. I don't understand why I wouldn't use the word cis. Why would being called a cis woman bother people?
Karasandra it’s just offensive that we’ve been pushed out of the definition of woman I guess. That we’re actually woman and yet in those conversations we’d have to refer to ourselves as cis to validate some men’s identities.
@@vee1193 please stop being so triggered, it's just a prefix
I'd love to see Posie Parker in a chemistry class and hearing us say "cis" or "trans" alkenes.
Mmmmmm, yes, my dysphoria and love for boys is just me being an insecure straight girl. My mistake.
Yes my disphoria is just me being a insecure girl without the hornies
Same lmao this relates to me so much
Me too buddy :) just a insecure straight girl 😐 ... I'm a gay trans dude-
The bio for her RUclips channel is just "woman". Like yes very original
How great would it be if all Cis women just decided they don't claim her? Like, "no, we don't recognize her as a woman, she's in her own category now that is TERF". Because she's just as harmful to women as she is trans people, so she shouldn't be included until she can play nicely with the others.
Woman, got a nice ring to it.
Oh and she's a great woman to be around too 👍
Stand Up have you watched the video? Cause she's definitely not a nice woman 😂
@@cozywalrus7175 I personally know Kellie-Jay, was with her a week last Sunday. She's a friend of mine.
You don't know her, at all. You're judging her on clips and propaganda posted by one person who has an agenda.
Yet the trans ideology is asking to not be judged, actually not asking but insisting. Don't you think that's hypocritical?
Stand Up what ”trans ideology ”do you speak of? The only one I see is trans people feeling comfortable in their own bodies and being accepted 🤔
She has a tshirt that says “i love jk rowling” 🤣💀
It's a great shirt, I love mine 👍
@@standup2982 JK Rowling is transphobic, just FYI
Also Daniel Radcliffe wrote Harry Potter now
@@woods2223 I accept this headcanon.
Tilda Yeah & we her sisters love her right back it’s a woman to woman thing, you need to have been “born with a vagina”’ to understand what the bond is😉.We call it FEMALISM nowadays.
@@LizRoe-ky4hr yes, womanhood sisterhood 💜
Honey your scars are non-existent they look amazing!!! You did a great job caring for them. Also I love your content and it really helps be able to understand my friends transitioning experience. Much gratitude 💖💕🙏
Have a great day random person reading this !
You too! :)
Thanks
Thank you, I love you
Also let's also state that trans women who medically transition can have less muscle mass than a cis man due to hormones. I've lost quite a bit of strength since I've started and I don't regret a thing
Not only can they have less muscle mass, most professional sport leagues and competition already have rules excluding trans that aren't on HRT or haven't been on HRT long enough to see those changes. Some even require medical proof of hormones levels and body mass distribution being the same than cis average. Add to that intersex people, there have been situations before where intersex Olympic athletes are affected by such rules. How is it that there are people who define gender as biological sex, being a binary and claim that us medically transitioning is mutilation but find unfair competing against someone that was assigned the same sex at birth than them and expect them to go through similar medical procedures than we use to make it fair? So medical transition it's fine if it is to FORCE an intersex into preconceived boxes but it's bad if it's a treatment that we need, that's possibly life-saving and that we are entirely willing to undergo.
Some people just want to live in a bubble where everyone is exactly like them, where no one challenges their dogmas and if we do, we must adapt to their expectations inorder not to threat their preconceived notions.
@@MI-dl3zj living in ignorance is a pain
Still men though.
@@standup2982 here me out. I used to be able to pick up over 140 lbs with no problem. Thats about my body weight. Now, weeks in hormones and not working out, 80 lbs is a MAJOR struggle. I cant even do it. I never worked out before I could pickup what I used to. Naturally I'm getting weaker, so why should I still compete with men if I can't do what I used to?
@@standup2982 you clearly don't understand the meaning of gender, no one is claiming they can change their biological sex, anymore than anyone can choose their gender. Trans-women are women because women is referring to gender, the trans in trans-women is accepting the biological sex not matching what was expected for that gender.
However here is a crazy idea, how about if people wouldn't go out of their way just to discriminate against, disrespect, hurt, attack, bother or insult those that aren't harming them in any way? What if no one gave sht about what other people do with their own life as long as they are not harming anyone else? Would that really be a bad thing? No need to understand, no need to change yourself, just ignore what others do that doesn't affect you. Just live and let live.
The funny thing is, I mistook my dysphoria for body image issues for years before I came to terms with being trans ( I’m a non-binary trans person, afab). It was a big relief to understand the origin of my discomfort - so many things fell into place for me.
“It’s really offensive you think you can just stick on some clothes and demand I change the way I think.”
I’m FTM. Early stages transition, no one look at me. I spent my WHOLE life up until NOW (19 years) dressing up and playing doll with my own body and identity. I did the photoshoots, I put on prom dresses, I wore bikinis and skirts and leotards and booty shorts. I let everyone call me “she” and “queen” and “bitch” and “girl” and “woman” and “lady” and I smiled politely.
I was miserable. I hated myself. I hated my life. I hated the way people saw me. I got secretly angrier and angrier and sadder and sadder. I tried to kill myself. I cut myself.
It wasn’t about the fact that I don’t want to be a woman. I’d love it if I could be a woman. I think women are beautiful and amazing and smart and powerful! I just *am not one*. It just *makes me feel bad* to have this body and live this way because it’s not how I FEEL. That’s all that matters. It’s NOT ABOUT YOU. It’s barely even about “gender” as a social construct. It’s about me. I just want to see me as I am. I just want people to see me as I am. I’m so tired. I finally feel hope for the first time in being FTM. I *tried* to stick on some clothes and demand something of myself and everyone else. It didn’t WORK. It was inauthentic. This is the Trans story, please, someone listen.
this is so relatable
Me a transgender guy: *Laughing hysterically at the stupidity this woman is speaking*
I am a transgender boy. And you were the one that help me with this and I could just watch your RUclips videos not feel like I'm the only one my mum and dad did not like it that I want to be a boy. So you are amazing person.
"I don't want to change the way I think based on new information but you should change the way you think"
@Citizen 1491 um do you mean two-spirit it is a native American gender. Do some fucking research
Okay Posie, I'm 30, and I massively regret the choices I've made about my gender. I should have listened to myself when I was 7 and thought about cutting off my willie with plastic scissors. Instead I'm just a 30 year old dork with a wimpy haircut and painted nails, who envy cries over a 10 year old photo of myself attending a birthday party with a cross dressing theme. I have now been referred to the gender clinic, and am just waiting to get an appointment. I look forward to becoming the very thing you seem to hate the most. A non-cis woman 🏳️⚧
She’s simultaneously offending “natural born women” whilst preaching about how transwomen are men by saying that women are “uterus havers.” It completely disregards females who may have been born without one or had hysterectomies.
👏
Phoebe NATURAL BORN WOMEN LMAOO
Also the same argument against trans-women competing with cis-women it's used against intersex people inorder to FORCE them to undergo medical treatment (like HRT and/or gender affirming surgeries) in order to compete. Anyone that holds this argument considers the same procedures To be a good thing and even something needed and required for people naturally born with physical characteristics outside their preconceived boxes (regardless if they wish to have it or not) but wrong, evil, mutilation, unnatural and "bloody offensive" if we do it.
( I know she didn't mentioned intersex athletes in the video but there is no way to withhold the "trans-athletes" argument against us without having a double standard for intersex athletes. We need to start seeing the bigger picture and start moving towards equality, we can't do that by denying the existence of some people nor by having double and triple standards)
Nushi Panda it’s in quotes bc it’s just so fucking absurd lmaoo
I think her point was she actually objects to women being called ‘uterus havers’. She wants women to be called women and to not include transwomen in that definition. Don’t shoot me. I just think you have the argument confused.
My mum is a terf
Yep i have to live with this
Im so sorry ✊🏼😔
Oh dear
I feel bad for you, my mom isn't a TERF but she does have some internalized transphobia (continually deadnames and misgenders my friend Lynn).
I'm so sorry. I will be your gay mom from now on. I love you lots! I hope you have a wonderful day.
I'm so sorry you have to deal with that
i just love it when people like her say "i don't want to change how i think for other people." like girl you are literally asking trans people to do just that.
I feel like people who tell trans people to basically just be cis are like people who tell someone with severe depression to "just be happy".
Jee, thanks hadn't thought of that!
No one:
Rosie Parker: “ NeOh, ThEy CaNt JuSt ChAnGe ThE WaY I ThInK”
bro.
she literally. she literally goes "oh yeah Noah, she" "oh Rachael, he"
like you literally used their name but then misgendered them, you make no sense. just stop
everything about this woman enrages me how can you be so stubborn and lack that much empathy
not wearing a shirt is an absolute power move and i love it.
Definitely. However he is very lucky that he doesn't have scars.
Imagine spending your whole life on hate. So sad.
Imagine writing the best selling series of books in history and then throwing all of _that shit_ away on hate. Can't fault them on their willingness to sacrifice, I suppose.
I understand it can be difficult to adjust to different pronouns and names etc, my younger sibling changed their name to Oliver and use they/them pronouns recently. It is a little awkward to begin with, but if you care about their wellbeing then it's worth putting in that effort to adjust. It's really not even that big of a deal and I find it really sad that some people are so stubborn and hateful about it
Amen.
Adapting to change is difficult to some people, and I will never shame someone for struggling with it, but this does not give anyone the right to be disrespectful.
if your sibling was anorexic would you encourage them not to eat?
@@gimmemore9709 Hey look! A village idiot with no education on the fields of medicine and biology made an uninformed statement! We should all listened to him.
Its actually funny because its socially acceptable and supported to accommodate to religious believes which are widely scientifically debunked but accommodation of trans people, who are backed by the scientific community to be valid in their self-identification, is somehow crazy. Thats why back in the day people were right to disrespect the village idiot, its just with modern conservative outrage over cancel culture that there is a push to take the village idiot seriously.
@@gimmemore9709 no, because anorexia leads to death and malnourishment. Luckily, being trans doesn't! Thanks for posing such an intelligent question
So do you always give in to other people's wishes, whims, and delusions? If you had a relative with schizophrenia, would you agree with them that their hallucinations were real instead of kindly telling them that they're not? Is your younger sibling going around saying that they are a man with period? Or a non-binary person with a period, even though your younger sibling is clearly a woman?
I hate it when people try to tell others what to do.
Me too
Great response. Very classy. I hate to say it, but I kept expecting Posie to bellow "Off with your head!".
I just can't understand what people don't get:
a woman is a woman, a man is a man, trans women ARE women and trans men ARE men why is that so hard to understand
it is easy to respect peoples wishes by calling someone by their correct pronouns and their correct name
it is easy to respect if someone wants to transition or not
it is not anyone's right (but the person who is feeling this way) to tell them what to do. If you are not the one going through the difficulties then why are you judging and making comments. Do we really need to go back to primary school to relearn "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all"? Some people just need to sit themselves down and truly look at the things they are saying.
Women don't have a penis, simple.
I’VE WAITED FOR THIS FOR AGES.
STRAIGHT WOMAN NOAH I just.....want to hurt someone
I want to hurt posie...