10 Golf Ball Secrets They Don't Want You To Know

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    These 10 golf ball secrets will show you some inside info that manufacturers don't want you to know. Ever wondered how much it costs to make a dozen balls? What about a ball that's around 30% less than major brands, but performs as well or better. I go over that and more in this video.
    I look forward to working with you much more in the future with Top Speed Golf. Good luck with your golf.
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  • @AvgJoe0007
    @AvgJoe0007 4 года назад +65

    They all seemed to sink to the bottom of the pond at about the same speed.

  • @charlesw9875
    @charlesw9875 5 лет назад +6

    I thought this was clickbait. Instead, it's the best advice I've ever heard on golfballs, and it's exactly what the title said it would be. Thanks a heap!

  • @pouchboy1
    @pouchboy1 5 лет назад +12

    Best video of this type I have ever seen. Clear, concise. Great information and I learned a lot.

  • @evanjohnmo
    @evanjohnmo 5 лет назад +20

    I just picked up a Snell ball on the course the other day, and tried it out from the tee box. This thing flew like a champ, and felt really nice.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Thanks for the comment. I agree, they are great ball and go just as far if not further than other premium balls. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @BortJones
      @BortJones 5 лет назад +1

      Vice ball is good for the price

  • @silvercloud6922
    @silvercloud6922 5 лет назад +4

    very cool video. helpful. the best bargains are found when you go hunting thru the woods to find your lost ball, find 6 more. but now I know which balls to look for when mine goes screaming down into the gulch.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Haha...you can find some real bargains in the woods for sure. Happy hunting :-) Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @samphotoyt
    @samphotoyt 5 лет назад +12

    Great info, I kept waiting to hear what the third layer was for. I'm assuming mid irons? I'll be giving the Snell a try once my Callaways run out.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks Scott, the 3 and 4 piece golf balls are typically for those with higher swing speeds. The extra layers allow for lower spin with the driver while still being able to get the normal spin on approach shots. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @joecummings9662
      @joecummings9662 4 года назад

      Scott Manthey Scott look up the comparison between the Kirkland golf ball that’s $15 a dozen to the Callaway golf ball which almost $40 and the Kirkland was just as good if not better bang for the buck I was shocked

  • @papashuk26
    @papashuk26 5 лет назад +8

    FINALLY!!! A sound explanation to all the confusing marketing in golf balls! Another quality video; thanks Clay!

  • @tonyy168
    @tonyy168 5 лет назад +7

    Thank you for the most informative video I have seen on the golf ball for a long time...

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +1

      Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!

  • @jimkang6562
    @jimkang6562 3 года назад +1

    Great stuff Clay. Anyone who wants an idea on what ball to play can choose to pay attention to what you distill for us here or spend hours crawling through RUclips, like I did, damn it.

  • @Badfinger4
    @Badfinger4 5 лет назад +10

    Great video. I already suspected most of this, but it's nice to hear a knowledgeable pro lay it all out clearly and concisely. The other day I heard a guy talk about a new ball that goes over 20 yards farther than a Pro V1. I just shook my head.

  • @bustinya2240
    @bustinya2240 4 года назад +1

    This is why i haven't bought balls in over 25 years. Soft cover balls i find go in the bag. Done deal. :) Also your video on stop flipping the club may have saved me, Hit balls yesterday and i was amazed. Playing today and see if i got it ? :)

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  4 года назад

      Hi, thanks for sharing. Glad the video helped. Best of luck! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @jackcreeber1511
    @jackcreeber1511 3 года назад +1

    Clay, best explanation about golfballs I have ever heard. Thank you so much

  • @cheekycabbyco
    @cheekycabbyco 3 года назад +2

    Thanks Jordon Speith for the advice!

  • @jimrohnstock9913
    @jimrohnstock9913 5 лет назад +7

    Been playing the Snell balls since they first came out and find them to be equivalent to the ProVs, etc for a lot less money. The new MTB Black is terrific and you can't beat the personalized thank you from Dean when you order them. Still appreciate the other balls but why pay more? Good review.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Thanks for sharing Jim! I agree 100%. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @ignatiusjk
    @ignatiusjk 5 лет назад +4

    My two favorite balls are Titleist DT Tru Soft and the Srixon Soft feel. I'm 58 and my drives on average are around 250 yards.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +1

      Hi Tom, thanks for sharing. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @frankd1682
    @frankd1682 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Clay, your bottom line is pretty clear; Get the best performing golf ball at the best price. I absolutely agree, the Snell golf balls perform as well as any other high end golf ball, and the only reason pros aren't using it is because they are not being paid by Dean Snell to play them. After trying a few sleeves this year, I will be playing the Snell MTB black next season.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Frank, thanks for the comment. Glad you like them. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @alanhopkins4441
    @alanhopkins4441 4 года назад +2

    Great review - agree With all you say - for me it’s all about the short game - end of story 👍

  • @markpflager689
    @markpflager689 5 лет назад +1

    Been playing Bridgestone for yrs. Now the new B330XS. 7 hndcp at my home course of approx 7000 yrds. . Just ordered 2 dozen of the Snell Black. Cant wait until the snow is gone to compare them. Great explanation on golf ball info.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Thanks Mark! Those are good balls too. I'm sure you'll find them comparable. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @lancedunaway3802
    @lancedunaway3802 5 лет назад +4

    Excellent review. Agreed with your assessment of Snell and Kirkland. Very professional presentation.

  • @davetutelman
    @davetutelman 5 лет назад +2

    Great video, Clay. Stayed consistent and on-message, and the message was spot-on!

  • @jerrycoile338
    @jerrycoile338 5 лет назад +2

    I enjoyed this video about golf balls however, one ball that I've never liked and is cheaper, is the Top Flight XL. It sounds and feels like hitting a rock off the clubface. I seem to never get any feel with the ball and just don't like them at all. I noticed the Top Flight was not in your list of balls. Why?

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Jerry, it wasn't apart of the study. We didn't do the study. I believe Golf Digest did. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @jessegscott2984
    @jessegscott2984 5 лет назад +2

    Been playing the MTB black for 2 years and love them. Great video.

  • @browningbelgium2326
    @browningbelgium2326 2 года назад

    This is a breath of fresh air surrounding the truth about all golf balls. I'll pass this along to my other buddies that have been gullible enough to buy the marketing, not the ball itself. Now I can say to them; "I told you so". Thank you !!

  • @davewinter1350
    @davewinter1350 5 лет назад +5

    Thanks for that for something I’ve never thought about !! Usually pick up Callaway supersoft now time maybe for rethinks 👍🏼

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      No problem David! Glad you liked the video. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @jhall154ify
    @jhall154ify 4 года назад +2

    That’s so good to know...I’ll order some Snell golf balls to try. I’m a TP5x guy and would like to compare them myself. Mahalo sir!🤙🏼

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  4 года назад

      Hi, I think the TP5 balls are great too. You might be able to save a little money if you switch to the Snell. The performance will likely be similar but it's different for everyone. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @markking3779
    @markking3779 4 года назад +2

    Enjoyed that Clay 👍👍👍

  • @dany1247
    @dany1247 5 лет назад +1

    The Snell golf balls are cheaper than the ProVs but it's still quite expensive in Canada. I used the Callaway SuperSoft and it's long, soft and it does bite on the green. Not as good bite as the ProVs but close enough.

  • @boydgrandy5769
    @boydgrandy5769 5 лет назад +1

    I bought 5 dozen Snell MTB Black balls for $27.50/doz.
    I like them. A lot.
    At least as good as ProV1s at my level of golf. Half the cost.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Thanks for sharing. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @fz6rider04
    @fz6rider04 5 лет назад +1

    Great video with incredible information. I learned a great deal and it makes me reconsider the ball in play. I must admit I have fallen for some of the marketing hype before about low compression great distance junk just to find out they dont go any further than any other ball. I am completely with you on finding a ball that feels good around the greens to you because that is where the advantage of a ball will make a difference. Thanks to this video I understand a lot better what to look for.

  • @hysmiley8781
    @hysmiley8781 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the great information & video!

  • @conorobrien2104
    @conorobrien2104 5 лет назад +1

    best video ive seen on explaining golf balls. learned so much from this thank you

  • @juancolmenares6185
    @juancolmenares6185 5 лет назад +2

    Two comments: 1. I play Srixon Q-star. Good ball for a good price and since I’m not a pro I get good and predictable performance near the greens with these. Highly recommend for a mid handicap golfer. 2. The fluid spine thing: I agree with that, for me the difficult is maintaining the angle in the backswing because I feel it requires some lower body work. Thanks for this explanation!

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Juan, Srixon makes good balls too. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @dextermorris2771
      @dextermorris2771 5 лет назад +1

      The Q-star tour is a great ball.

  • @mike.j4893
    @mike.j4893 4 года назад +1

    Out standing review, and content!

  • @Icekul0113
    @Icekul0113 5 лет назад +1

    I love Snell golf balls...I normally play with ProV1's, and I can really tell the similarities around the green.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi, I agree, they play about the same. I can't really tell a difference myself. Hope you're playing well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @joshuawilliams7824
    @joshuawilliams7824 4 года назад +1

    Great video . I actually use the a soft compression ball just cause I like way it feels especially when putting. I dont spin my chips shots either so high spin isnt a big deal for me

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  4 года назад +1

      Hi, thanks for sharing. Keep up the hard work! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @joshuawilliams7824
      @joshuawilliams7824 4 года назад

      @@TopSpeedGolf you are welcome and thanks

  • @edmundojrsichon1664
    @edmundojrsichon1664 3 года назад +1

    Hi Clay, what's the best ball for slicers? Thanks!

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  3 года назад

      I would recommend a low spinning ball. The Snell MTBX is a good one.

  • @doublea8888
    @doublea8888 5 лет назад +8

    Been playing snells for 3 years. Great ball!

  • @coyacampbell5361
    @coyacampbell5361 5 лет назад +2

    I miss the Wilson True Tour (my all time favorite), the original NXT was my second fav.!

  • @ericisom8159
    @ericisom8159 5 лет назад +2

    In the cold, I always carry a couple of balls in my front pockets--great explanation on ball technology and yes, some hype we all hear.

  • @straightcheez2892
    @straightcheez2892 5 лет назад +2

    Ill try those Snell golf balls.. Im a huge BRIDGESTONE B330 guy,but anything for great performace and a cheaper cost

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi, Bridestone makes some great balls too! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @juancolmenares6185
    @juancolmenares6185 5 лет назад +2

    Great explanation!

  • @bbaker777
    @bbaker777 5 лет назад +1

    I've been playing Snell MTB's for a while now. They are great balls. I let my friends try them and they say the same. The distance and feel are the same as when I played the more expensive Titleist balls.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Billy, thanks for sharing. Glad to hear you're enjoying the Snell balls. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @invisaman75
    @invisaman75 5 лет назад +5

    I did a test a while back between Pinnacle Gold and a few premium balls. I saw way more than a yard difference in distance. I may have been from "roll" opposed to "carry". After discovering this I thought about the human factor especially when comes to the price of the balls. I was probably wailing away at the "Pinnacle Gold" because I didn't really care but when I hit a Pro V1x I'm trying to keep it the fairway. LOL

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Haha...thanks for sharing. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @divindave6117
      @divindave6117 5 лет назад

      Its true when they say golf is 90% mental.

  • @golferpatbug
    @golferpatbug 5 лет назад

    Hey Clay, when you were talking about playing in winter and a cold ball, what about keeping golf balls in your pocket, and switching between two golf balls every hole?

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Pat, yeah, you can do that as long as you're not playing in a USGA event because it's illegal to switch balls like that every few holes. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @Abelvis
    @Abelvis 5 лет назад +1

    Again, thanks Clay! Ever tried Cut, Vice or Pearl balls?

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +1

      No problem Abel! I haven't ever tried those but I have hear good things. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @larry45044
    @larry45044 5 лет назад +7

    wish i was good enuff to have a good FEEL for the ball!! i just knock it up there and try to get it close !!

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +2

      Hi Larry, it just takes practice and a lot of golf to gain a feel for it. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @lovebumperknows
    @lovebumperknows 5 лет назад +1

    great video, about snell balls I have a few didn't know anything about them

  • @eddiex72
    @eddiex72 5 лет назад +2

    This is a great description of the ball debate and understanding. As my game improved, I wanted to see stopping power power. The higher spin on the urethane covered ball does make a difference. By the way, as the game improves you lose less golf balls also, so buying the higher performing ball is okay when they stay in your bag longer. Still, the price points are too high and I'd rather put that money toward greens fees. I tried Snell, Vice and landed with Cut Golf. The Blue and Grey are considered tour level balls. The blue landed on the Golf Digest hotlist and spin chart with a gold award. I now play the Cut Blue for $20 bucks a dozen. Unless they change, I will not. The price point is too attractive for what I've seen on the course. Thanks for the review. Great stuff as always Clay.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Eddie, thanks for sharing. I haven't had the opportunity to try a Cut ball. Glad you found something that works for you. We'll have to give them a try. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @kymstock1852
    @kymstock1852 3 года назад

    Occasionally we have to wait for the Snell balls to arrive in Oz. I watched a TXG video that tested the Inesis 900 Tour ball and it seemed to perform as well as the premium balls and at a similar price range as the Snell

  • @rkfarmranch8214
    @rkfarmranch8214 5 лет назад +5

    Best info ever on golf balls. Thank you.

  • @javiersoto2079
    @javiersoto2079 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome info and great video. Thank you so much for the info. Snell is my new golf ball.

  • @stephenfowler4115
    @stephenfowler4115 4 года назад +1

    The reason most golf balls have similar distances off the driver is that the USGA has set limits on the velocity golf balls are allowed to have to qualify for tour use.

  • @dh0570
    @dh0570 5 лет назад +1

    Everyone talks about Snell, Vice, and Kirkland, but I believe Cut Blue and MG C4 are the best for the money. Around $20/dozen and they are every bit as good as the Pro V line including the durability. In my own testing, I've gotten the Cut Blue to spin back more consistently on wedge shots than any of the others, so that's probably going to be my gamer going forward.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi, thanks for sharing. I haven't every tried the Cut or MG C4 balls. Glad you found something that works great for you. If they perform just as well as the ProV1 and are $20/dozen then that's a great deal. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @mikereal9670
      @mikereal9670 5 лет назад

      In my experience, the Cut Blues do not spin nearly as much as the Snell MTB. They are more in the mid-spin range, similar to the Vice Pro line. Haven't tried the MG C4.

  • @mateoo4
    @mateoo4 4 года назад +1

    I play with project s golf balls I'm a scratch player and honestly, if u get project a it will spin A TON. I recommend getting them if you are an amateur like me get project A or a snell

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  4 года назад

      Hi Matthew, thanks for sharing. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @mateoo4
      @mateoo4 4 года назад

      Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard thank you

  • @cwbynthjngl
    @cwbynthjngl 5 лет назад +2

    Great video, but one question. Can you explain dimple patterns and amount of dimples. I remember back in the day that Slazenger had a ball with 490+ dimples that with forever and a day it seemed.
    Thanks in advance

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +1

      Hi, higher spinning balls have dimples a little deeper, to help keep the flight down. For lower spinning balls, the dimples are typically a bit shallower to help the ball fly higher and stay in the air. The dimples work to break the air around the ball in flight, and have two key characteristics that are measured: Lift and Drag. The ideal dimple design is a combination balancing the lift and drag of the ball. They vary the diameters, shapes, total coverage, edge angles to control these two key variables. If you get the dimples wrong, you can be substantially short in distance and that is for sure not preferred! Most all golf balls run between 300 and 400 dimples.. The number is not the important factor. The size, shape, depth, edge angles get the proper flight and trajectory for the ball based on the spin rates of the balls. Example, PROV1 has 352, for a long time Titliest had a 332 pattern, a 392 pattern, and TaylorMade uses 322 dimples on one ball and 360 dimples on another, so all of them are in the same range. Hope that helps to understand dimple patterns and why they matter! Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @mattcooper7550
    @mattcooper7550 4 года назад +1

    Clay, I know this is an older video, but if you see this, I am an 11 handicap, trying to get in the single digits. I am deciding between AVX and Chromesoft X with Triple Track (love it for putting). Do you have any thoughts on those two balls? With being an 11, will I see much difference in the ball? Or does it not really matter until you're getting closer to a consistent 70's golfer?

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  4 года назад

      It doesn't make much of a difference. Find something you like and stick with it. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @mattcooper7550
      @mattcooper7550 4 года назад

      @@TopSpeedGolf Thank you! I am trying to lower spin on the driver but still keep the feel around the green ... but I wish those Triple Track lines could go on other balls. Damn Patents!!! Thanks Clay...you're videos are helping a lot! Keep it going!!!

  • @froanc
    @froanc 5 лет назад +5

    I'm in Belgium, never heard about the 'Snell' ball. I'll be the Orlando-Tampa, FL next month, where can I find them to buy a couple to try them out....

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +1

      Hi Frank, they are only available online on their website (snellgolf.com) or Amazon. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @froanc
      @froanc 5 лет назад

      @@TopSpeedGolf Thanks a lot...let me see where to get them, and I'll tell you in all honesty about my impression !!!!

  • @ThePNWRiderWA
    @ThePNWRiderWA 5 лет назад +8

    Clay a lot of good information. I believe the lawsuit was Titleist versus Cosco not Taylormade
    My experience is pretty much in line with what you have stated. The differences I am a older, moderate swing speed (85 to 95 with the driver) golfer.
    What I have found is the low compression balls do not go as far with the driver as far as a regular premium ball. The older distance balls such as top-flite and pinnacle among others.
    Golfers assume because they have slow swing speed’s are better off using a cheaper distance ball. As you pointed out distance is about the same among all the balls.
    A shorter hitter even more than the long hitter needs a better ball.
    A long long hitter is maybe hitting a pitching wedge into a green often I am hitting a 7-iron.Due to the angle of flight and spin rate variation who needs the more spinning ball? I do not the long hitter
    The biggest difference for myself was with putting. The hard balls I just cannot putt with as the clicking sound they make screws up my feel
    The same is true with the low compression balls the feel while different then the premium balls I find inconsistent most of the time I hate them too long or not hard enough. They too have a clicky sound it is just not as pronounced.
    I live in Texas and if anything in the winter the variation between the Fairway and the green can be even more pronounced so I always play the premium ball

    • @geraldpugh3630
      @geraldpugh3630 5 лет назад

      Very good advice. Thank you. UK

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi, thanks for the comment and all the great insights. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @gjschillinger
    @gjschillinger 5 лет назад +1

    Hey Clay, Thanks for this video. I just received an order from Costco the other day. They are only available online at Costco.com. I paid $24 for 2 dozen.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      No problem Gregory! That's a great deal. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @croy1
    @croy1 5 лет назад +2

    A 148 yds slam dunk h-i-o with a Snell last summer.... I do like them A LOT! ;-)

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Awesome! Congrats Christian. Keep up the good shooting! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @jimpickard3850
    @jimpickard3850 5 лет назад +1

    How refreshing to hear honest unbiased opinion on golf equipment. Thanks Clay

  • @noherekruger3738
    @noherekruger3738 5 лет назад +4

    One ball I didn't see here was the Taylormade project (a), which IMO is better than a Pro V. I also agree the Snell and Vice (also not listed) balls are fantastic balls. Best budget ball I've ever used was the Bridgestone E6.
    I would also like to point out though that 90% of amateur golfers wont benefit from a better or more expensive ball anyway. 99% of the people I see every weekend should just use a Nike Mojo. Unless you're under a 10 handicap, which only like under 10% of amateurs are, you have no business spending over a $1.00 a ball.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi, thanks for watching. I may have to try the Prject (a) ball then. I haven't ever heard it compared to a premium Tour ball. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @mikereal9670
      @mikereal9670 5 лет назад

      Both the Project (a) and the Vice Pro Plus were on the wedge spin charts in the mid-range area. Not the same spin as the higher quality urethane covered balls. They are decent balls for the price.

    • @dcasper8514
      @dcasper8514 5 лет назад

      No Here Kruger. Amen !! And I'm an 8 handicapper..

  • @tonymoss2484
    @tonymoss2484 5 лет назад +1

    Great explanation, thanks. Quick question on winter golf, I switch to a softer core to allow the ball to compress more (I switched from chrome soft to super soft). It certainly felt better off the club face and appeared to give me back some of the lost distance. Any views? Thanks.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Tony, It's really not going to make much of a difference. I would just stick with whatever you normally play and try to keep the ball as warm as you can. A cold golf ball makes a much bigger difference than the compression rating. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @lewishadelman6609
      @lewishadelman6609 5 лет назад

      Tony Moss p

  • @quinnage6322
    @quinnage6322 5 лет назад +1

    Extensive testing was done with MyGolf Spy with the Prov1 vs the Vice Pro Plus and the SW results alone showed that the Vice was closer than the Titliest. This is the first video you’ve done Clay which makes me think that you’re being sponsored by Snell and Titliest.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi, we are not sponsored by either of them. If we were sponsored by Titleist then I'm sure they wouldn't want us making this video. Snell has sent us golf balls for free but they pay us nothing else. We just like the golf balls. I would also be careful with the "tests" that My Golf Spy does because they typically use real golfers which is too variable. The only people that I know of that legitimately test golf balls is Golf Labs. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @townnearacliff3009
    @townnearacliff3009 5 лет назад +42

    Take a drink every time he says golf ball

  • @robertlegacy3961
    @robertlegacy3961 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks!
    Nice explanations.

  • @blackstaticband
    @blackstaticband 5 лет назад +1

    Great video.. thanks for info

  • @chocolatedonut7905
    @chocolatedonut7905 5 лет назад +1

    Very informative Thanks

  • @SearchBucket2
    @SearchBucket2 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the commercial ;)
    No use looking for Snell outside the US it seems

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi, I think they are only available online. I'm not sure if they sell outside the US but I imagine they would. I think you can get them on Amazon too. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @paulp2055
    @paulp2055 5 лет назад +1

    I've picked up some of the Snell MTB Reds to try next spring...I have been playing the TaylorMade TP 5x this season....Clay, you may want to update your graphs, those are a few years old.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Paul, yeah, I think those are from 2016. If you have been playing the TP5x then you'll likely want the MTB Black. The MTB Red is going to be more like and Titleist NXT Tour. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @Rolfrad
    @Rolfrad 5 лет назад +1

    I play in the cold in South Carolina in the winter. I am aware of the problem with the balls getting harder. Should I buy a ball that is softer even in the cold? Which one would that be?

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Phil, I would recommend just playing the same ball year round. The difference in distance is going to be minimal. Just try to keep the balls as warm as you can. That will make the biggest difference. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @BretDouglas
    @BretDouglas 5 лет назад +2

    I love my Snell MTB Reds!

  • @Golfzilla70
    @Golfzilla70 5 лет назад +1

    excellent video, here's my two cents' worth: i play the Bridgestone E6, and while I don't notice a difference on driver, i DO notice a difference on mid-irons. Maybe it's just me, but i'm consistently 5-10 yards shorter with the premium balls compared to my E6 (i'm a single-digit handicapper, and i'm fine with the mid-range balls because I have a hard time predicting when the premium balls will bite or just spin ridiculously from 150 yards out). I'd really like to see some tests done with the mid to short irons with the different balls because these are really the scoring clubs.
    On a side note, what I do in the wintertime is get one of those handwarmers in my pocket with 3 golf balls. I change out on each hole. It definitely helps.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Thanks Chris! Also, thanks for sharing your experience. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @SearchBucket2
    @SearchBucket2 5 лет назад +8

    Tom Watson in his book "Getting Up and Down" adovacated playing the short game with as little spin as possible. After all, it's only "predictable" on the surfaces with the same firmness and granularity. We tend to remember shots when backspin works and forget when it doesn't and causes problems. No wonder Tom Watson won 5 British Opens.
    I quite like the feel and feedback of the "cheap" soft balls currently out there. I've often thought backspin was as much an enemy as a useful tool, especially watching pros suck back off greens into water like at Augusta or at US Open's. Many modern pros have one-dimensional technique which is why they fail on such courses and in such conditions. They are too used to playing golf like a game of darts.
    Greg Norman's shots often screwed the entire length of the green! Is that really something to go after? I think not.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +1

      Hi, in many situations around the green you don't want spin such as for chip shots that you want to get rolling toward the hole. You can't really play pitch shots like that though. The spin is much more predictable then a chip type shot from 50 yards out. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @superque4
      @superque4 5 лет назад

      @Scott ?????? Do you have a video of that toe chip shot? I'm interested in learning it.

  • @virgillflowers5251
    @virgillflowers5251 5 лет назад +1

    Clay, Enjoyed your video. Sorry I just found you on You Tube. Srixon Q Star was not in your test which I play along with the TM project A. Where do you think they would fit in your test> Thanks again for a very good video.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Virgil, the testing was not done by us actually. I believe we got this from Golf Digest. It's been a while so I'm not really sure. I imagine those balls would have similar characteristics to the green ones in the chart. That is a total guess though. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @riproarin1042
    @riproarin1042 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks Clay for the info, your videos are really good.

  • @chrismorgan2461
    @chrismorgan2461 5 лет назад +1

    I’m assuming the robot is perfect at center hits and full compression. Another thing to consider is that lower compression balls are friendlier to off center hits, at least feel wise

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Chris, even robots don't get it in the exact center every time. There are so many variables but they are way better than humans. Thanks for sharing. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @stephenross4310
    @stephenross4310 5 лет назад

    Been playing Snell for a year now and love them!!!

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Awesome! Thanks for sharing. Play well! Quentin | TST Instructor

  • @truthof7382
    @truthof7382 5 лет назад +1

    Great into. Thank you.

  • @MrEcted
    @MrEcted 3 года назад

    Great information! I use Snell MTB-X because to me they basically act just like a Pro V1X and are about $20 cheaper per dozen, your video confirms why this is. Quick question though:
    What's your thoughts on used golf balls? I recently bought 98 used Snells for super cheap, so cheap I couldn't pass it up (was free shipping and it worked out to about $10/dozen for a mix of MTB-X and MTB-Blacks). Undoubtedly I believe a lot of these will be lake balls because that's where the money's at for these used golf ball sellers, but do you think there's a real difference in performance between used (likely lake) golf balls that are still in really good shape vs brand new? I have a hard time telling a difference, but I'm not very good at golf so it's hard for me to detect these kind of differences.
    Anyway, great video, and the honesty is appreciated!

  • @gregnarez
    @gregnarez 5 лет назад +1

    That was so informative. Thanks.

  • @sailboatbob3969
    @sailboatbob3969 5 лет назад +1

    At Embry-Riddle Aerodynamic's class, first thing we studied was a golf ball. It can do all the same things. it has thrust (driver) lift (angle of club/dimples) drag, and gravity. The shots you see the pro's make with a driver look like cannon shots. They go look like an arc. Like he just said little spin. The dimples on the rubber wound balls, were designed to grab the air, via spin rate, create a lower PSI which would cause the ball to "climb". As drag increased, and gravity would take over the ball would start to fall. Back in the day when you hit the drive it looked like it went out, then you'd watch it go up hang there, then fall. But hitting a straight shot is the hardest thing in golf. Just like in Ping Pong, Outside in, will slice, inside out draw/hook. With the higher club head speeds if you were using these older balls the hooks and slices were exaggerated. So you want to hit a longer drive with the new golf balls??? find a driver that has groves in it.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi, thanks for sharing. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @Godisnotjesus1967
    @Godisnotjesus1967 5 лет назад +2

    I have a theory. If the grooves on club face connecting the ball at angle (smooth ball with dimples) spin is produced. If ball is coarse and not smooth, wouldn't more spin be achieved. I don't have the equipment to test this theory though. If you wish? you can do it, just be so kind and give me feedback please. The ball should be sanded with sandpaper. Such a ball connecting grooved clubface will produce even more spin. Distance will be compromised but that's relative on par3's. I don't have equipment to do such test. You welcome to do it. Just be so kind and give me feedback.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi MJ, you don't necessarily always want more spin. You want to be able to control the spin. Less spin makes the ball go further but you want enough spin with shorter shots to be able to make the ball stop. If you took the dimples off the ball then there would be too much spin. Making the ball surface more coarse would also increase spin due to friction on the face. A ball without dimples would go about half as far and be much more difficult to control. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @mikereal9670
      @mikereal9670 5 лет назад

      @@TopSpeedGolf Wouldn't a rough textured ball also have more resistance in flight (increased drag( and thus fly a much shorter distance?

  • @IconicProps
    @IconicProps 5 лет назад +1

    I used to hit the pinnacle straight distance. It was a little heavier, and had a slick cover. The spin lowers your distance. So you will pick up distance with a very slick ball. And weight is a big deal if you can swing your club with a lot of speed.
    Theres a reason the long drive contests use hard, slippery balls. And smooth club head faces.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi, thanks for sharing. Hope you're playing great! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @LightningDogg
    @LightningDogg 5 лет назад +1

    Very informative video, thanks. Have you ever tried Rife (formerly Innovex) E Motion or V Motion balls? I ask because if price is not that much of a factor, they are fairly inexpensive online. *Those that think this is a Snell advertisement have missed the whole point of the video. Enjoy losing your $50 dozen balls in the lake!

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi, we have not tried those. We usually don't seek out balls to try. It's usually just people sending us balls to try. Snell sent us some and we really liked them. I wish it was an ad for Snell because that means we would have got paid for it :-) Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @michaelbroderick
    @michaelbroderick 5 лет назад

    Great video. One question I would have is how about dimple patterns. I notice a difference in distance and I have often wondered since balls are so close what effect do the massively different dimple patterns make?

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Michael, I'm not an expert on this but I did find a great article on Snell's website regarding this subject. Here is the link: www.snellgolf.com/blogs/news/dimple-patterns-and-their-flight-effect. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @javierbernal4885
    @javierbernal4885 5 лет назад +1

    Personally i like the tm project a i felt like it performed for my game distance ondrvs and comfortable control around the greens

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Javier, thanks for sharing. Glad you found something you like. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @cdh79
    @cdh79 5 лет назад +1

    thanks i will give them a try.. new balls for the price of premium lake balls is a no-brainer :)

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +1

      Yeah, we like them and it's nice to save money. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @bigG88
    @bigG88 5 лет назад +2

    Just found your channel today. Great content. Makes sense to regular guys like me!

  • @emncaity
    @emncaity 5 лет назад +2

    Always found this to be true in practice. I've got a bag of decent practice balls that I'll go hit in a field fairly often, some of them top-line and a lot of them more mid-line, a few from the $25-and-under list, and there's pretty much zero difference in height and distance on a 6-iron or wedge hit the same way on the face.
    Same with on-course practice, with the possible exception of a marginal difference in total distance off the driver sometimes, although I'd say it's more than a yard or two with some balls, but maybe that's only at a scratch-or-better level (I've been as low as plus-2 as an amateur and a little better than that as a pro, and was probably top third or even top quartile in length among good players, disregarding all long-drive gorillas).
    When I was playing competitively and the ProV1x came out, I tried it. My experience testing it under various conditions was that there's no doubt it was a little longer off the tee (I'd say an average of seven or eight yards), maybe up to half a club with irons (usually less), but it was so terrible on feel around the greens (IMHO) it wasn't nearly worth it for the difference between hitting 6 and 7 from the fairway. There's just no appreciable difference in scoring potential when we're talking about just a one-club difference, and not that much even with two clubs. Much more important to have something you like around the greens and that fits your feel (part of which is sound) with the kinds of shots you hit.
    Also, I've certainly knocked around with lower-priced practice balls just for the fun of it when the course was empty, and there's almost no difference at all in performance other than, as you say, in the ability to hit certain kinds of shots in the short game and with short irons. If it's a super-cheap ball that doesn't spin, there are certain difficult situations -- downwind, hard greens, etc. -- where you're going to have trouble trying to stop it.
    But in general, amateurs tie themselves in knots over this stuff in the same way they'll absolutely ruin their games and swings over being able to hit a 5-iron instead of a 4 or a 3 from a specific distance, like it matters what number is stamped on the club you need to cover certain distance reliably. It's just strange. But it's also profitable for the manufacturers, I guess.

    • @emncaity
      @emncaity 5 лет назад +2

      As for Snell, I tried a couple of their lines (I think they had only two at the time), and I agree there's essentially no difference in playability between them and the big names. In fact, I haven't met anybody yet who wouldn't tell you the same.
      And in cold weather, of course you're right. Good players who grew up in places where they play in the 40s for two or three months (or more) out of the year have always gone low-compression in the winter. As for keeping them warm, I haven't ever found that the "warm" lasts anywhere close to nine holes, and anyway, you have to gauge the drop in distance as the ball loses its heat, whether it's two holes or nine. I _have_ found a difference in going to low-compression balls once the temperature gets much below 60-65.

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +1

      Hi Stephen, thank you so much for sharing. I agree mostly with what you said. There isn't much difference in the flight of quality balls. Usually it's just a few yards at most. The way the ball spin and feel really makes the biggest difference. You're exactly right, most people would benefit more from improving their golfing ability rather than fretting so much over equipment. This is why we do very little videos like this. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @MrPatrick1414
    @MrPatrick1414 5 лет назад +1

    I know Titleist Pro V1 now start to bubble around the 'Titleist' name after about 6 mos/year. A ploy no doubt to get you to buy more! This never happened with the older balls!

  • @ripyerballs
    @ripyerballs 5 лет назад +7

    Great video Clay a fantastic insight into Tour balls vs Cheaper brands

  • @ChildoftheMostHigh1
    @ChildoftheMostHigh1 2 года назад

    I just play Srixon Soft Feel when the competitive juices are flowing and Srixon Marathon when I'm by myself. I won't worry about trying any other ball.
    I want to play golf, not obsess over it.

  • @nbt3663
    @nbt3663 5 лет назад +1

    Great video. Does Snell make a yellow ball?

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад +1

      I know that they used to when they had the Get Sum ball but I'm not sure if they are now. Check out their website: www.snellgolf.com/. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @nbt3663
      @nbt3663 4 года назад

      @@TopSpeedGolf im.going to get them the shop. They are out of yellow right now.

  • @sevesellors2831
    @sevesellors2831 5 лет назад +1

    Great video best ever on the golf ball! Thank you Clay!

  • @briankinread2293
    @briankinread2293 5 лет назад +3

    Used to caddy for my club pro. He had me keep a ball in my pocket and he changed balls each hole so the ball was always "warm".

  • @bettabuilder
    @bettabuilder 5 лет назад +1

    Just hit the ball you like and the ONE you can afford ! Pro v1x for me ! I sacrifice distance for control around the green !

  • @Magicmeatbag
    @Magicmeatbag 5 лет назад +2

    Taylormade rocketballz for me!. Found them at costco for 29$ for 24 =D.

  • @chuckf3109
    @chuckf3109 5 лет назад +1

    The video references a chart a few times, can you link me to that chart please?
    Also have you seen lately people cutting open balls and finding the center core being off center? Apparently there's some pretty serious quality control issues with Callaway balls. I'm interested in your take on this. There's a hash tag on Twitter, finditcutit that's worth looking at

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Chuck, I don't have the link to the chart but I believe it was from Golf Digest. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Callaway balls. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they have quality issues. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

  • @HRodLoyal9
    @HRodLoyal9 5 лет назад +1

    Have you tried the Snell MTB X? What are your thoughts?

    • @TopSpeedGolf
      @TopSpeedGolf  5 лет назад

      Hi Henry, we have not tried those yet. I like the BTB Black. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor

    • @seanpeacock5595
      @seanpeacock5595 5 лет назад

      Henry Rodriguez Harder feel, lots of distance, tons of spin.