How The Greatest Gamer Of All Time Left His Fate To RNG
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- Known for his legendary Terran play, Lee "Flash" Young Ho, a StarCraft pro player from South Korea, decided to challenge RNG by maining Random.
This is the story of how Flash demonstrated his unbelievably deep understanding of the game by locking in Random at AfreecaTV StarCraft League 10.
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3:56 Love how my man Arty took a detour to make sure to dump on Protoss while praising Flash's ladder rankings with his off-races. Never change Dan
Classic arty
classic artosis
Hahahahahahha
You'd think that Artosis' day job is as a streamer or caster, but you'd be wrong. His actual day job is Protoss salt miner, and he sure mines a lot of salt on the ladder.
Love it 😂😂
This run was truly unbelievable watching it in real time was insane I can’t emphasise enough how difficult it would be
if he had won that season's ASL playing as random it would even further cement his status as the true GOAT of gaming.
Maybe it leaves room for someone to beat his record and take the title
Still, all players reaction's prove his goatness
@Frank The Tank i think it's highly unlikely someone could win random. Maybe a new player who random the whole time but for an existing pro it would be hard. Protoss and terran have similar enough mechanics that maybe won't be as hard but zerg is just too different
Getting 3rd place on the first try is good enough, a few things going differently vs soma would have gotten him to the finals and maybe a win, every other match was pretty easy for him.
Isnt it impossible to be be the best gamer of all time as a general statement? Like I feel that would be being good at every type of competitive game
I don't know anything about StarCraft but I love your bite sized documentaries
Thanks!
Flash is 11-4 on random, a 73% winrate. That's a higher winrate than any other player has in ASL history.
This was incredibly well done. Congrats on making such a high quality SC video. The greatest esport of all time :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Flash came so damn close to winning it all. I wish he won the ASL title that year playing as random.
The problem is that if he did... What's next ? What can you even do beside retire forever right there ?
@@Nooctae
Bro, Flash doesn't even have to come back and win ASL multiple times and he'll still be the GOAT.
How many stars had to align for FlaSh to get all three different races, and then win a clean 3-0 over one of the best Terrans in the world? It's just...amazing. I always appreciate videos like these that help cement and preserve FlaSh's greatness and legacy in SC:BW.
I miss starcraft. used to watch Sc2 so much seeing Artosis again brought back memories.
As a non starcrafter, is it dead? This tournament looks like it was 2020, so maybe theres still some good tourneys happening.
thanks for the memories man. Im someone who's watched pro broodwar since 07 and Flash's random run is one of those unforgettable moments in esports.
6:30 one thing people ALWAYS forget is that flash, when he was upcoming and still trying to overcome jaedong (which he eventually does handily), was KNOWN as a cheesy player. He'd resort to cheeses very often, so playing random is a major advantage when you're not going to automatically going to the standard every game. Not trying to get any credit away from him, but it's good to remind people that flash is not scared to cheese, he did it often when he was very young.
When I played sc2 I picked random because it hides what I am from the opponent until they check my base. I felt like it gave me an advantage because I knew the match up first and would have an idea of how to play it sooner than the opponent.
Flash: "you beat the singleplayer campaign..? I beat multiplayer."
If someone can do it, it's Flash. Rain (another gaming genius) disappeared for a bunch of years, then came back and got to ASL finals pretty much stomping everyone in his way. So I'm excited to see Flash competing at ASL at least once more, I hope his time away helped ease his wrist and shoulder issues.
did rain disappear or was treat when he played starcraft 2? im fairly certain he is one of the few people to win championships in both games
wrists dont like to heal man. Flash has already had surgery for his wrist before i believe, so if his wrist issues are bad he might be done competing like that.
@@maoduida387wrists heal but lifestyle can impede it. They may not be very active, and type of foods they may eat also affects it
@@sillymesilly What wrist issues do/have you had?
ASL 10 was by far my favorite esports event of all time. nothing is as fun as watching flash play random.
It's ok but it's not hookers and blow😊
I love how the moment they see a single pixel that looks vaguely Terran their faces be like: *chuckles* "I'm in danger"
It's so fucking perfect lol. It made me bust up laughing.
The commenter doing the ZvZ about the micro was great too.
That run Flash made with random in Season 10 is just crazy, and he had some pretty special strategies prepped as well. Insane run. Hopefully he comes back to Brood War, afaik his military service has been done for a while.
I recently got into StarCraft 2 it’s cool to see u guys doing a video on ot
4:34 larva is my new favorite SC player. Never seen him play once but that man got an undeniable energy no one else seems to have. Look at that funky dude.
Just got to 10:08 and holy shit i love this dude even more
Look up "larva plays with his feet" if you havent already seen it. Dude is amazing 😅
He's the greatest player in history, but if he wins with random, he will be the greatest game player forever into the future. For now, he leaves a single gap between complete mastery and perfection.
No one could even get close to Flash, his accomplishments are immense.
100%. He's like Michael Phelps. Absolute dominance in his field.
one of the best ASLs of all time and I mean that, I struggle to finish new ones cause they just don't have the insane energy this ASL had. Also great theme song for it that season. Just all round such a great tournament.
Watching his random run was phenomenal and so much fucking fun. It was crazy when he gets terran instead lol
Flash and Jaedong was one of the greatest e-sport rivalry of all time.
The way he managed to get 3rd against the best players in the world with ALL 3 CLASSES is amazing.
A true master plays Random
Whenever im feeling exhausted from squats, i think to myself, "flash would do one more rep"
This guy's win rate was over 70%. OVER SEVENTY PERCENT! He's way out of this world.
He's coming back!
Insane production and you even got Artosis on. :)
What an honor to be alive during the same time as flash in his starcraft Progamer incarnation.
I remember thinking during this run he was able to get away with builds and advantages that other races could not because they had no way to prepare for the opening.
The unknown opening in no way measures up to the level of difficulty in playing off races. Also the meta has changed so that most races can do the same build vs any race. Zerg can pool first vs all races, terran can fast mech vs all races, tvz being the worst but still possible, protoss can gateway expand vs all races. The main difference was protoss used to go forge first only vs zerg but now they learned to gateway first vs zerg
@@Sc9cvsd you become more predictable though, flash would know you are more likely to pick those builds since they are safer
not saying it wasn't an amazing achievement on his part but it definitely makes it harder for both players, I really hope flash goes random again in the future cause every match was so exciting
Theres just too many nuances in each matchup to master normally you practice 3 matchups per race and its hard, now imagine 9(3 mirrors and 3 matchups on each side).
Please! More Starcraft content! I want to see Tastosis in your next video!
"Fuk you if you're playing random! Random has an unfair advantage!"
- Artosis
He just said "I'm a jack of all trades, master of all"
11:38 a yet another victim of modern day's legal slavery, called for disguise "mandatory military service". a minute of silence for thousands and thousands of men whose careers were broken by this disgusting yet socially accepted practice
My favorite pro gamer of all time! The Ultimate Weapon! Long Live FlaSh!
He slapped snow and larva! Wow
Flash is God
i heard about this a while ago but hadn't seen videos on it. this is absolutely insane.
The C Ball is on point! I spit laughed. Great video as always!
No one will ever match Flash, it feels like he's not human, but some kind of demi-god in this game
The more popular games have all the money and attention, so few people know about these things, so I'm really happy to see you spread the word a bit on StarCraft and how absolutely insane it is that someone can be competitive playing all 3 races.
Such a crazy story and such a good video the Esports Historian himself rt’d it.
Really sad that military service destroys so many esport careers.
Yes, other people have to do it aswell, but there are few professional sectors where it really hurts this much.
Flash is the greatest gamer of our times
Such good content.
I can know nothing about the topic at hand and still thoroughly enjoy these videos, they are just so well done!
Also Jack thank you, I am no longer alone here
3:56 never change Artosis.
What a great video, thanks!
why does this clip to drones walking over the eggs while artosis says "stuff thats NEVER been done before" lmao
another strong random player is a famous commentator (russian language) Alex007 from Ukraine
he still plays on local level every now and then and is still one of the strongest random players in the world
Artosis : "Protoss is kind of an easy race to play"
The Salt still flows even after almost 2 decades.
Never seen starcraft in my life but now i want too lol. Thank you for the great video.
Love your content 😊
Thank you! 😁
5:50. Confidence doesn't flood out of someone, it drains out.
i dont know anything about starcraft, but I think this guy is/was striving to be the absolute best in history by proving that he could win no matter what race he got
Boxer, Flash, Jaedong - The holy trinity of Brood War Goats.
Thanks for the nice Video!!! Next Idea maybe Oliveira AMAZING RUN.... That is amazing FAIRYTAIL STORY
As someone who have no idea how Starcraft work, my only question is: how much of an advantage it is your opponent not knowing what you are playing? As it seems to me that in Starcraft it takes some time for the players to meet in the battlefield. This is only a curiousity question from someone without knowledge on the subject.
This is an amazing video and the balls to do such thing at this level is just amazing.
It does give you an advantage in the context of a single game, but not necessarily in the context of a series or tournament. You'll notice Artosis said several times that Flash's success would depend on getting the race on the right map with the right spawn location. This is significant not only due to balance, as BW's balancing comes almost exclusively through maps rather than patches. More importantly, having the right race/map/spawn combination is important because the advantage of being random depends on the amount of time your opponent spends in the dark. Larger maps are advantageous in this regard, but larger maps also typically have multiple possible spawn locations, with some being much closer than others. Similarly, maps with fixed spawn locations, and particularly smaller maps, also influenced the influence of random's advantage.
The advantage of keeping your opponent in the dark shouldn't be underestimated, of course. BW is a game where players can recite a build not by order, but by second--at 1:15, you'll have this X units, then Y building finishes 15 seconds later, allowing you to start Z upgrade, which takes 1 minute, so wait 10 seconds and move your units so they arrive just as the upgrade finishes. The game becomes increasingly reactive as it progresses, of course, but it's not like you're running a marathon. It's like you're sprinting one. These builds are optimized based on timing that is, in turn, dependent on resources. Resources are dependent on workers. Workers, however, are also used to scout. As a result of this, on larger maps without fixed spawns, Flash has the advantage of not needing to scout early, whereas his opponent is forced to. This gives him a minor advantage, and also may put his opponent at a minor disadvantage, but again this is highly dependent on the map.
This was more or less Artosis' point. If Flash rolled Terran on those maps that gave the least advantage to random and either rolled a distant spawn location on larger maps or rolled Terran in the event that he rolled a poor spawn location, he would maximize his advantages while also minimizing the drawbacks. Whether he got Zerg or Protoss would also be very important, as certain maps are favored for certain races and certain players are better against certain races. And avoiding mirror matchups (outside of TvT) would benefit him as well.
So to answer your question, there's really no way to know whether it's advantageous or not because the advantage of playing random is itself up to RNG. Sometimes it might be huge, other times it might be really bad. You would have to have enough data from entire tournaments to really determine the balance between advantage and disadvantage, and whether it favors the random player or not. In essence, playing random not only introduces a new RNG component, it also exacerbates the existing RNG mechanics in the game to a degree that maps simple weren't designed to handle. Yes, there's a disadvantage to playing an unfamiliar (relatively) race, but the whole thing is so chaotic that it's hard to really say whether Flash had any real advantage when he rolled Z or P.
@@loldoctoryou really must be a doctor
@@loldoctorhow can you write so articulate
@@martinc1842 He is a doctor.
Wow, great story and great video
it was indeed amazing and unmatchable , i watch all the asl's and gsl's....
Early days esports (and streamers) have something so unique and fun to it.
Like im not bombarded by 10 millions ads in a single pro game and casters doing ads midcast.
Good vid, I’ve always loved Flash
I still salty he beat Stork on OSL
The nostalgia, man. Back when e-sports was all about Starcraft, Quake 3 Arena, and CS.
That Larva foot gaming cameo though.
This man the real life Yugi Moto 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So since he went random, got lucky and got to play against Free with T it was essentially a...
"Free win"
Thanks for the vid
It wouldn’t be arty if he didn’t call Protoss easy
favorite season was when larva won, man what a ride and it felt like he deserved it too. Now I'm rooting for Mong, if he can just start building battlecruisers TvZ ffs
Boxer is still the GOAT.
I promised that I'd watch any Flash related video after the last one. Here I am for another.
I understood like 10% of this video. Great stuff
The wildest part of it was me realizing that Broof War is still being played on comp level
he also left his fate to RNG crypto dump :^)
1:00 very nice transition.
"he's the greatest gamer and it's not up for debate"
Every gamer ever: "hold my beer"
I beat my brother all the time I could take him
Nah, Flash would 1v7 most of us
Always crazy to me how being the goat of one genre (a small one at that) of gaming can be muddled up with being the goat of all gaming. I mean did he consistantly get top 8 in fg/moba/fps tounies or was it just rts?
Saying StarCraft is a small game shows your ignorance.
Fun fact the first world champion ever D22soso won playing random only
Never played StarCraft , hooked me in
Would be great to see him in the next ASL!
Playing against the player nicknamed "God", your place in the tourney is left entirely to RNG. A complete coin flip. Then the coin lands.
You: 5:48
As a Korean who grew up enjoying esports in general, i personally felt like starleague was literally the hardest to win even when compared to recent games with global competition
great video. Kinda sad that SC is kinda only strong in Korea these days.
Watching those matches live was intense! What's next? No mouse?
"hes like the king of Zerg besides being named queen" isnt that cause Zerg race revolves around a queen? like bugs or someshit...
I thought the greatest gamer of all time was Billy Mitchell.
😂😂😂
Never say never, that is stupid. This can and should happen again.
i dunno, it took the entire punch out speed running community plus TAS and a few people really good at working with TAS to beat 15 year old matt turk records. to me that will always be the craziest story in competitive gaming. he was so far ahead of his time its mind boggling.
I think flash is definitely one of the best esports players ever but speedrunning is a whole other can of worms. Speedrunning focuses on being perfect at every other stop but in multiplayer versus games there is only so much you can do until everything you planned for falls out of the window, and it’s more about playing the best your hand has given you. Both StarCraft and older speed running titles are some of the most mapped out games ever, and I think flash can compete for being the goat between both genres, albeit a little difficult to compare considering how different they are.
More directly to your comment, Flash was the best at a time where the scene had already been around for years. While the effort for someone to theorise strategies for running punch out so many years ahead of their time is impressive, it would be hard for Matt Turk to pull ahead of the competition like flash did now the game is more stagnant with a lot more competition.
litle correction, the highest apm games are actually rhythm games, but it doesnt require strategy and managing at the same time.
Loved this
great video
would LOVE more broodwar lore
military ought to be working hard to see if these guys make good commanders or generals!
12:23 = How to shut someone the fuck up after being told their wrong about Flash being the GOAT of all time GAMER. list is massive
Flash showed that he is the skill ceiling.
While this was an amazing performance from flash and how far he got with it, and we the viewers loved watching it, I bet all of his opponents hated having to go up against a random player in a tournament.
You really can't prepare against an opponent going random because you have no idea what race they are until a few minutes into the game when you've already had to commit to starting build, while the player choosing random knows what race they have as soon as the match starts and can go into a scripted plan immediately.
In the video there is a player that comments "his micro is bad, but his numbers are good", most of the games where flash gets his off race, he is able to win from getting an early build order advantage and putting on enough pressure before his opponent can recover.
Artosis in particular when playing ladder seems like his head is going to explode and whenever he runs into a random player because he knows that they have a prepared stupid cheese build when they get their off race, and so he's just rolling the dice.
Now when facing flash who's the best in the wolrd as Terran, you have to prepare an anti-terran build for your matchup, if you don't it's going to be an auto lose from the get go because you will never recover if he gets starting advantage, but if flash gets off race and you've committed to an anti-terran opener, you're going to be giving him the early advantage and with how quickly things can snowball in broodwar it's a nightmare scenario when you're playing against someone of that caliber.
Yes, but the element of surprise go away once the game starts. It's more disadvantageous for Flash because he's used to playing Terran compared to the guys who are used to playing against all races.
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