The granular activated carbon (GAC) filter will adsorb tastes and odours of organic origin and remove any residual disinfectants such as chlorine but it does not do fine filtration. There must be a filtration element of some sort such as a replaceable cartridge or a washable porous ceramic element. After that the UV light will provide some disinfection but it does not provide protection downstream of the unit. Also, the UV steriliser dose can be less effective if the water is turbid or if the optical elements get dirty. This water is treated but the operator needs to understand the limitations and be prudent when treating water of poor quality. Boiling is a 100% effective strategy against microbiological threats and should used on the treated water if anything gives cause for doubt.
This looks like a great little system, thanks Andrew for brining it to our attention! Water is heavy and bulky so being able to carry less and fill up during your trip is a great advantage. It looks fairly easy to use too, important when you just want to make a short stop only. As for the people complaining about the price, there are more affordable filters used by backpacking and hiking. I use those myself a lot, you will find out that for a small bottle or 2 those are fine, but if you like to fill up a Jerry can or more you'll see the value of a system like this. Thanks for the review Andrew, lets see if Santa is nice for me this year :)
Decades ago I spent a lot of time travelling in numerous African countries and all we had was Chloromine T powder to disinfect the water we got from streams, wells and even taps. I’m sure it wasn’t healthy for long term use. We did boil water a lot too. Electric refrigerators and solar panels for vehicles wasn’t a thing back then so we got used to never having cold water to drink we found that wrapping our water bottles in wet towels and letting them dry, the evaporation actually cooled the water a little bit. When I travel now I take a steri pen UV light to kill pathogens but mostly drink bottled water because even in hotels that say they purify the water, the pipes may still contain lead.
5:50 Hello Andrew, hope you are well. Came back to your channel after a while. Lots of missed content I’ll enjoy watching. By the way, aren’t you scared of the crocs 😂
Even though I am in Japan and obtain water from taps which is considered safe, I do feel that when I am out camping that not all water from taps is of the quality safe for drinking and would prefer to use something like this to put water in the tank of my caravan. Furthermore, I don't think that I need to remind anyone that Japan is very prone to major natural disasters where lifeline services will get cut for a lengthy period of time. Whilst the JSDF (Japanese military) will typically turn up with bowser to supply water, being able to obtain my own water from a river would be very beneficial. Seriously something to consider, despite the steep investment price, but I think that with something like this, you really do get what you pay for.
interesting, but not for my overlanding in the Patagonia. Water straight off a glacier is pretty common. Running it through any filter, is probably being overly paranoid. I still use a ceramic hand filter, and when realky questionable a quick chem treatment. 😅
most water is most definitely not 'good'. Drink bad water just once, and you will understand. Worst poisoning I ever had was from tap water! In Botswana.
"No fire, no camping". We only camp in cold weather. We don't use a shower. Instead we have a plastic dish that holds about 2 litres. Warm some water, add it to the dish and use soap and a face cloth. Nice and clean!
Hi Andrew, Unless you’re being sponsored by Guzzle, you may want to investigate the system I use, in the caravan and in my vehicle (when exploring away without the van). It is the Thirsty Nomad system, which comprises two simple ‘hot dog’ filters that firstly soften the water, remove heavy metals and any sediment down to one micron and secondly treats the water in five stages including a final filter of 0.001 microns that instantly shreds all bacteria and viruses, i.e., everything is removed except salts in solution. I use a small submersible 12V bilge pump to transfer water from the source to the container. It’s simple, less noisy, lighter and totally effective. And no, I’m not associated with these Australian scientists in any way, but I do want them to succeed for the selfish reason that I don’t want their products to go the way of Beta video recorders, i.e. out marketed. “Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door” is a fallacy. Give Rob a call at Thirsty Nomad and let him answer any of your questions. Cheers, Alan Pickering SA 4WD and Touring Club (South Australia, not South Africa)
I am not sponsored. I will take a look at Thirsty Nomad. Looks like a higher-performance system. Unless you tell people about the better mousetrap, then who will care that it exists? Guzzle contacted me a few years back and I'm happy with their products. Had Thirsty Nomad done the same, this video might have been quite different. We need something for the van, and I will get in touch with them. Thank you for our input.
The best overland products are expensive because they cost more to make. Would you buy a cheap parachute? Then why buy a cheap water purifier? Do you know what E.coli can do to you? Similar to a cheap parachute.
Think I will stick with my 0.1 micron Sawyer tap filter for a fraction of the cost...I'm thinking with this unit you are paying a premium for fast flow rates...
I would use your system, plus a filter before the Tank and After the Tank to be safe no unwanted pest comes in the Tank. No i would inspect the filter just before the Tank and After this purifier vigorously and sample that water for both appearance and clarity then taste but not take in until i am sure, I then check the filtered water after the Tank and the one before with the one from your system so all 3 samples and choose the last one for drinking. I know the process is slow but Hospitals may be too far or don't exist where i will be in the middle of no where. after all I am on Vacation and have lots of time. I use to Boil the river water, then capture the steam, filter that and drink I had no problems and plenty of fire wood around to burn for Boiling the water. I had a stainless steel Tank with a Lid and a Tube on top to get the steam into another container, let it settle an cool down, siphon the water out into another container with a Tap fitted to it then get rid of the water on the bottom of my steam collection tank make sure the siphoning hose don't touch the bottom so any settlement if any doesn't get siphoned up. run a filter from the tap fitted on the second tank where your siphoned water went into and collect that water in a clean drinking container store it in cool place ready for drinking. Water born diseases can occur from time to time give that a container a little shake every couple of weeks but don't drink the same water if it aged to 30 days. always bring fresh water to disturb any life that would form in it from those nasty diseases.
Check your pump and make sure something isn’t blocking somewhere in your input line. Yours sounds like it may not be running properly. The pump on mine stays constant and doesn’t go in and out like yours.
It sounds like he is using a diaphragm pump which is the ideal choice for high pressure applications. However, many of these pumps come with a pressure switch on the output side of the pump. Depending on the micron value of the filter, the restriction may be triggering the pressure switch causing the surging. I'd recommend either bypass the pressure switch, or use a pump with a higher value pressure switch if you still want that function on the output (e.g. output connects to a hose with a trigger/valve).
The pump is making a purging noise because it’s sucking air. That means that the plastic case holding the filter is not tightened sufficiently or the o-ring on the filter housing is dry and needs a bit more lubricant to properly seal. I have used this system many times over the last 3 years.
Unless we see scientific analysis, this video is useless and anyone would be silly to buy this on the word of someone being most probably sponsored by this product, but regardless of sponsorship, it has to be tested.. Just like the Paul brothers with their colourblind glasses sponsor 😂. RUclipsrs can't be trusted.. unless it's Project Farm.
I would be interested in seeing a water test from before and after the system.
Yes!
Yep, it's filtered not treated.
Its got a uv treatment module @Winky_Eye
@Winky_Eye UV sterilization is one form of treatment on that unit.
The granular activated carbon (GAC) filter will adsorb tastes and odours of organic origin and remove any residual disinfectants such as chlorine but it does not do fine filtration. There must be a filtration element of some sort such as a replaceable cartridge or a washable porous ceramic element. After that the UV light will provide some disinfection but it does not provide protection downstream of the unit. Also, the UV steriliser dose can be less effective if the water is turbid or if the optical elements get dirty.
This water is treated but the operator needs to understand the limitations and be prudent when treating water of poor quality.
Boiling is a 100% effective strategy against microbiological threats and should used on the treated water if anything gives cause for doubt.
This looks like a great little system, thanks Andrew for brining it to our attention!
Water is heavy and bulky so being able to carry less and fill up during your trip is a great advantage.
It looks fairly easy to use too, important when you just want to make a short stop only.
As for the people complaining about the price, there are more affordable filters used by backpacking and hiking. I use those myself a lot, you will find out that for a small bottle or 2 those are fine, but if you like to fill up a Jerry can or more you'll see the value of a system like this.
Thanks for the review Andrew, lets see if Santa is nice for me this year :)
Andrew little suggestion if you attach a small float to the hose to keep it off the bottom or away from sediment
Better just drink beers 🍻
Thanks for review... Keep it up.. 👍
Its expensive, but after weighing it up, im sold.
should attach a float to intake hose to keep it off sediments
Decades ago I spent a lot of time travelling in numerous African countries and all we had was Chloromine T powder to disinfect the water we got from streams, wells and even taps. I’m sure it wasn’t healthy for long term use. We did boil water a lot too. Electric refrigerators and solar panels for vehicles wasn’t a thing back then so we got used to never having cold water to drink we found that wrapping our water bottles in wet towels and letting them dry, the evaporation actually cooled the water a little bit. When I travel now I take a steri pen UV light to kill pathogens but mostly drink bottled water because even in hotels that say they purify the water, the pipes may still contain lead.
The cleanest water is around a ft below the surface id use a float on the suction
It needs a small buoy to keep the filter off the bottom. Easily fixed.
The filter should have a float right? So its close to the top. That's what dams normally have.
that's a good idea. I think I will add one.
Excellent idea. It will avoid the sand etc…🎉🎉🎉
5:50 Hello Andrew, hope you are well. Came back to your channel after a while. Lots of missed content I’ll enjoy watching. By the way, aren’t you scared of the crocs 😂
Yes I am scared of crocs. But only in places where they live.
Even though I am in Japan and obtain water from taps which is considered safe, I do feel that when I am out camping that not all water from taps is of the quality safe for drinking and would prefer to use something like this to put water in the tank of my caravan. Furthermore, I don't think that I need to remind anyone that Japan is very prone to major natural disasters where lifeline services will get cut for a lengthy period of time. Whilst the JSDF (Japanese military) will typically turn up with bowser to supply water, being able to obtain my own water from a river would be very beneficial. Seriously something to consider, despite the steep investment price, but I think that with something like this, you really do get what you pay for.
interesting, but not for my overlanding in the Patagonia. Water straight off a glacier is pretty common. Running it through any filter, is probably being overly paranoid. I still use a ceramic hand filter, and when realky questionable a quick chem treatment. 😅
The Guzzle thing is very big! I’d be interested to know what advantages it has over a more compact alternative….
I thought this was particularly compact.
@ ok. I’ve heard Shurflo are pretty good but haven’t tested one myself
Most water is good. If in doubt I boil it and leave it overnight. It is cool by morning.
most water is most definitely not 'good'. Drink bad water just once, and you will understand. Worst poisoning I ever had was from tap water! In Botswana.
@@4xoverland I should have been more precise. I meant in Australia.
@@4xoverland Yeah. Like the tap water I drank in Zimbabwe. I almost died, no jokes🤮🤮😠👍🏻
Sounds like Bali water@@BubblesTheCat1
"No fire, no camping". We only camp in cold weather. We don't use a shower. Instead we have a plastic dish that holds about 2 litres. Warm some water, add it to the dish and use soap and a face cloth. Nice and clean!
Your definition of "nice and clean" is well below the standards of half the population
Hi Andrew,
Unless you’re being sponsored by Guzzle, you may want to investigate the system I use, in the caravan and in my vehicle (when exploring away without the van).
It is the Thirsty Nomad system, which comprises two simple ‘hot dog’ filters that firstly soften the water, remove heavy metals and any sediment down to one micron and secondly treats the water in five stages including a final filter of 0.001 microns that instantly shreds all bacteria and viruses, i.e., everything is removed except salts in solution.
I use a small submersible 12V bilge pump to transfer water from the source to the container.
It’s simple, less noisy, lighter and totally effective.
And no, I’m not associated with these Australian scientists in any way, but I do want them to succeed for the selfish reason that I don’t want their products to go the way of Beta video recorders, i.e. out marketed.
“Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door” is a fallacy.
Give Rob a call at Thirsty Nomad and let him answer any of your questions.
Cheers,
Alan Pickering
SA 4WD and Touring Club (South Australia, not South Africa)
I am not sponsored. I will take a look at Thirsty Nomad. Looks like a higher-performance system. Unless you tell people about the better mousetrap, then who will care that it exists? Guzzle contacted me a few years back and I'm happy with their products. Had Thirsty Nomad done the same, this video might have been quite different. We need something for the van, and I will get in touch with them. Thank you for our input.
What price do you put on health. If i was doing major remote trips i would rzther spend money on this than some luxury item.
Looks good but I think it's a bit on the expensive side.
@@stevencohen4580 like most of the overland productos 😅
@akokosk8 2K a bit exy for the average punter.
The best overland products are expensive because they cost more to make. Would you buy a cheap parachute? Then why buy a cheap water purifier? Do you know what E.coli can do to you? Similar to a cheap parachute.
Think I will stick with my 0.1 micron Sawyer tap filter for a fraction of the cost...I'm thinking with this unit you are paying a premium for fast flow rates...
Its not made for a tap, although it can work with one. Its portable and self contained, for vehicular use. This is why its pricey.
Hi Andrew
I would use your system, plus a filter before the Tank and After the Tank to be safe no unwanted pest comes in the Tank. No i would inspect the filter just before the Tank and After this purifier vigorously and sample that water for both appearance and clarity then taste but not take in until i am sure, I then check the filtered water after the Tank and the one before with the one from your system so all 3 samples and choose the last one for drinking. I know the process is slow but Hospitals may be too far or don't exist where i will be in the middle of no where. after all I am on Vacation and have lots of time. I use to Boil the river water, then capture the steam, filter that and drink I had no problems and plenty of fire wood around to burn for Boiling the water. I had a stainless steel Tank with a Lid and a Tube on top to get the steam into another container, let it settle an cool down, siphon the water out into another container with a Tap fitted to it then get rid of the water on the bottom of my steam collection tank make sure the siphoning hose don't touch the bottom so any settlement if any doesn't get siphoned up. run a filter from the tap fitted on the second tank where your siphoned water went into and collect that water in a clean drinking container store it in cool place ready for drinking. Water born diseases can occur from time to time give that a container a little shake every couple of weeks but don't drink the same water if it aged to 30 days. always bring fresh water to disturb any life that would form in it from those nasty diseases.
Almost 2000 Dollars is steep. And that suction filter probably will need replacement after lots of use.
How come animals can drink any water and don’t get sick?
Like a Womo but it runs an ultra violet light too. (Then you mention the ultraviolet 🤨)
👍👏👏👏👏👍
Check your pump and make sure something isn’t blocking somewhere in your input line. Yours sounds like it may not be running properly. The pump on mine stays constant and doesn’t go in and out like yours.
It sounds like he is using a diaphragm pump which is the ideal choice for high pressure applications. However, many of these pumps come with a pressure switch on the output side of the pump. Depending on the micron value of the filter, the restriction may be triggering the pressure switch causing the surging. I'd recommend either bypass the pressure switch, or use a pump with a higher value pressure switch if you still want that function on the output (e.g. output connects to a hose with a trigger/valve).
The pump is making a purging noise because it’s sucking air. That means that the plastic case holding the filter is not tightened sufficiently or the o-ring on the filter housing is dry and needs a bit more lubricant to properly seal. I have used this system many times over the last 3 years.
Wait till you see the price. You’ll choke.
Yep. I was very keen on it til I saw that.
It looks great but I'd hope it's made of precious metals for that sort of number.
@ 100%. Ridiculous.
Ive got a womo much better imo but its over 2k this is a good starter. The cost is all in the uv filter @darrenc4096
Yep, complete joke - but, as with everything in this modern world, there will always be some clown that will buy it
@@nickk3839 correct. And in this country we have our fair share of clowns. 🤡
Please swap your channels Andrew.
Unless we see scientific analysis, this video is useless and anyone would be silly to buy this on the word of someone being most probably sponsored by this product, but regardless of sponsorship, it has to be tested.. Just like the Paul brothers with their colourblind glasses sponsor 😂. RUclipsrs can't be trusted.. unless it's Project Farm.
The specifications provided on this video are directly from the Guzzle website. Its up to individuals to test the accuracy of the data.