Dodge Ram Integrated Trailer Brake Controller Install 2009-2012
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- Demonstration how to install an OEM brake controller on your 4th gen Ram. Get your second 4-pin connector here - www.2040-parts...
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Has anyone purchased this missing small 4pin connector lately? The eBay listing is discontinued, and I can’t seem to find it anywhere
This appears to be the same guy. The eBay listing was in Michigan, and so is this one. Try to contact them here! - www.2040-parts.com/wiring-kit-installram-integrated-trailer-brake-controller-270755017120-i1730896/
Just installed this on my 2011 Ram. I thankfully had both plugs already. Unfortunately, Dodge stopped selling the bezel. It’s a discontinued part and I can’t seem to find a replacement.
Thanks for the video. Made install easy.
I know I'm late to the party, butttttt, you didn't need to buy that second harness. If you go to 1:56 in the video and pause it, you'll see that wire is already present in the background. The tip is orange and the red, white and blue wires are connected to it. That plugs into the other hole.
The one at 1:56 is the one I wired in haha
Hey guys. I went crazy for a little bit trying to find the wiring for the plug everybody needs. You can't really tell from the video. I used a junk plug from an aftermarket heated seat setup that plugged in without any issues. The wiring is as follows. If you're looking at the controller (4 wire connector on right, missing plug on left), the lower left pin is the red wire, the pin directly above is the blue & white & the upper right is the green & white. I hope this helps. Good luck!
Used this video to remove my brake controller so I could replace the parking brake release lever on my 2012 2500. Everything followed along as you showed it - except there are THREE screws holding the brake controller in! The third one is towards the rear of the controller, in line with the one you point out, easily accessible with the side panel off.
All the wiring harnesses are the same, both plugs for the controller are always on the trucks. This guy clearly didn’t see the other plug taped right beside the one he found.
You don’t have wire any in. Just look harder than this guy did.
Incorrect.
@@TonyTheTruckGuy sorry bud but you’re wrong. Bc mine has both plugs. Also call a dealership and try order that wire harness. There’s only one option. They only build one harness with all the options. They just don’t plug stuff in if the truck doesn’t have the option.
Go look again. The big plug is taped to the left and small plug is taped to the right.
@@BC_I_LETU SOME come with the plug, MANY did not. Hence the reason for these plugs being made and me needing to install it. I’ve been wrenching professionally for 15 years, and I’m a huge Mopar fan. I ASSURE you, mine and many others did/do not have this plug. I’m not blind. I literally have spent HOURS of my life doing wiring and sifting through dashes. More than likely, your truck has EVIC cluster controls on the steering wheel. Mine did not. This may be the deciding factor on if you have the plug or not.
I have a 2012 Ram 1500 and it only has 1 factory plug… So not all trucks have 2 plugs…
Thanks for the part #. I found it on Amazon, listed as a tow module and part# for 2012.
What was the part number on amazon?
Mopar-OEM Trailer Tow Module- 56029431am
Yep, the part# in the description should be the smaller one. Not sure why your plug is blue though...should be gray but as long as it's a 4 pin and plugs in it should be the right one. The seller on Ebay sells them for like $35 and ships form Michigan or Canada or something, he is super slow took like 2 weeks to get mine but it's right and quality.
I have two plugs on my 2011 both fit t powers up and seams to work fine
Hey there,
I was able to find the 4 pin on eBay, however my truck doesn't have the larger four pin plug. I see where it supposed to plug it in I just don't have the actual wire harness. Can you tell me where I can find that piece? Is that a Mopar piece? or do I have to make it?
as long as you have BOTH plugs hooked up and wired in correctly, the brake controller should work manually (when you slide the lever over) and if you are hooked up to a trailer with properly working electric brakes, it should work just by hitting the brake pedal, but i've been told if you have an EVIC you can have it programmed at the dealer for more info like trailer trip mileage, etc.
hmm, with the truck off and key off it stays on? there's a wire crossed somewhere, it's getting power to a wire that it shouldn't be, recheck the wiring for the small plug that taps into the ignition to verify wire colors then recheck for the big plug too, did you ever find the 4 wires for the bigger one?
Question. Hopefully one of you can help. I have a 12 express and I ordered the itbm. They sent me OEM pigtails. Can someone tell me what the wires connect to on the smaller plug like what cavity goes to can hi/low and which one goes to B+.
They didn't install the wires into the plug for you already? That's annoying. Unfortunately I don't remember which cavity is for which wire and my video doesn't have a good angle, I would maybe google the plug part number I listed and see if there's any images showing what color is in what cavity and you can figure it out from there using my video.
I've heard there are issues installing these on a 2009 Dodge Ram 1500. The problem is that when hooked up to a trailer the brakes where always engaged (locked up). Any advice?
It’s not to say that the problem doesn’t exist, but I haven’t heard of or had that issue. I’d give it a shot and see what happens, there’s gotta be a fix regardless I’d think.
OK so i Checked the wiring 5 times to make sure it is correct. And it is, But i am getting nothing out of the controller.. how important is the 4 pin connector that you used. I found another one that fits just fine. As long as the connection is made it should not matter what connecter it is....????
So you only have 1 plug? You MUST have both. I guess any plug that stays plugged in will work as long as the pins make good contact and they are in the proper orientation and going to the correct wires as shown.
My 2012 ram 1500 only has the one plug. From what i can tell you only need the second plug if you want the display on the dash for the controller, which my truck does not have. Will the controller still work if i only plug the one pigtail into it? I'm missing the one that you splice into the ICM.
I can’t say for certain since I used both plugs on mine and I ended up selling the truck so I can’t check for you lol. The controller SHOULD still work without the harness to the display, you just won’t have saved trailer parameters or any info on the dash.
Further to my post to Tony, my factory controller works fine but when i try to change from light trailer to heavy trailer int he EVIC it just won't change? I can scroll up and down etc. but i can't get the check mark on any setting other than light brake. The steering wheel buttons work for everything else so not the buttons. I've tried engine running, engine off, parking brake set bla bla bla and can't figure it out. Don't really want to go to a dealer if i can help it.
Yeah that’s weird. I assume you tried this several times. Did you try restarting the truck? I can’t think of a reason it wouldn’t let you switch if the buttons are working fine. That sounds more like a software issue and you may need an update or reflash.
The dealership is telling me that if I hard wire it in. it will bring in a constant check engine light? did you have this issue when you installed yours? I also noticed at the end of your video the controller was not installed??? Why is that? did you have issues? I cant find the harness but thinking about using insulated slide terminals. do you think this would work? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!!
Ashley Grundman In the end mine wasn't installed because I was actually taking it all out and selling it separately to make more money because I was selling the truck. Anyways when I DID have it in, it worked fine and no check engine lights of any sort. As far as hard wiring the harness in, I'd steer clear of "scotch locks" or "T-taps", it's not a professional method and it's just jenk because the wires don't get much contact. I'd solder it or use butt connectors.
Do you have a link for this harness still? The small 3 wire one. All the links posted are saying in available
This appears to be the same guy. The eBay listing was in Michigan, and so is this one. Try to contact them here! - www.2040-parts.com/wiring-kit-installram-integrated-trailer-brake-controller-270755017120-i1730896/
Hey what did you do with the manual shift release to manually put the truck in neutral. that's usually in that compartment? My batter is dead and I need to get it into neutral, the trailer brake controller is in it's place and I can't find where the usual manual shift release would be. Thanks.
I’m pretty sure the manual shift release you’re referring to is for the 8-speed trucks. This was a 2012 with the “6 speed”, so I didn’t have that. I do have another video showing a few different manual releases though, hopefully this helps you out - ruclips.net/video/KJv6FmeNdBw/видео.html
Can you program through dealership to get it to work through EVIC? I assume it will work stand alone without programming? Correct?
Strange, it should have had it, i sold my truck so i don't remember exactly but when i look closely at the video i see a green a yellow a white and the last one i can't tell but i would assume they would all be ran together.
No, without my truck to look at I don't have anything else to really go off of unless i'm there, headlights shouldn't be tied into the controller so maybe figure out with wire has power with the headlights on then see if power goes away with lights off, then disconnect that wire and find the proper wire to run it to. Worst case scenario you may have to put it back to stock and have the dealer do the wiring, i'm sure they have schematics and such, maybe check a dodge forum for wiring pics?
i just called the chrysler dealership parts department and got a quote of $255 for an oem brake controller and my truck has two 4 pin connectors. so it would plug right in both connectors. plug and play.
Can anyone please include a link or part number for the plug he added? I can’t seem to find it anywhere.
Part number is in video description and the item is still listed on eBay.
Why can't I find the plug on my 09. I looked high and low. All I have is that blue one like on the 3rd gen trucks.
Is your '09 a 1500? or is it a heavy duty?
1500 sport 4×4
Jace Larouche That's odd.....click on the link Earle Nietzel posted down below and see if that helps.
So I have a 2010 SLT and installed this. Previous owner had the other plug already installed and I see screws where an aftermarket brake controller was. But I’m not getting power to the plugs in the rear of the truck. Dealer says I need a flash. I was told it was plug n play!
Hmmmm. It was plug and play on my truck, but I had an ST, so I didn’t have the fancy LCD cluster. I’ve been told that the brake controller works without the flash but it just won’t show you any trailer info on the dash. I would watch through my video again and make sure all wires for both plugs are correct before trying to flash it.
I've been on eBay looking for that plug that goes. To the Ignition? Wires is there any way you can give me the part number?
The connector I added, or the 1 I already had under the dash? Not sure on the 1 that my truck already had as there wasn’t a part sticker on it or anything and the truck already had if.
The contactor one I cannot find it anywhere on eBay or Amazon.
@@mikepalmer8444 This appears to be the same guy. The eBay listing was in Michigan, and so is this one. Try to contact them here! - www.2040-parts.com/wiring-kit-installram-integrated-trailer-brake-controller-270755017120-i1730896/
Thank you
I went on that site I cannot find that plug.
What happens if you don't install the second three wire connector?
Not sure lol, I never tried it that way I just did all the necessary steps. I’m guessing the controller would error out, not work at all, or lose some functions. It may have to do with the instrument cluster information.
@@TonyTheTruckGuy just tried it and the brake control doesn’t work at all without it. Reason I asked is because I am having an issue where when I am in stop and go traffic or in a city at stop signs the trailer brakes will lock up and then go to my setting (I know how to properly set the gain). Even if I have the controller on 0 They will still lock it up briefly. They seemingly function fine at highway speeds of course, but I’ve looked at all the wires and connectors all exposed wires in wire harnesses. I’ve looked at the harnesses from stem to stern and I can’t find a wiring issue or rubbing. This happens with all three of my trailers even with an aftermarket brake controller. Any suggestions?
@@JAYFEATHERBOONDOCKS Hmm. That is really strange…. If it’s several trailers doing that even with the gain turned down then it must be something with the truck. Maybe your TCM needs a reflash. Had a 2012 Cummins come into our shop one time and whenever you turned tow/haul mode on, it lost a bunch of power. Full power with tow/haul off. TCM reflash fixed it lol
where can i get the wire unit. ebay no longer shows
That I couldn't tell you but it might be worth contacting the seller to see if he still makes them or try google
Hey man thank you
Also looking for the smaller 4 pin plug if anyone has any hints as where to look much appreciated!
Where abouts did you look to find yours? I can't seem to locate it.
The smaller plug is the one you might have to buy and splice in.
I dont have the cubby hole on my 09 2500. Can I get a different trim panel?
Isn’t the 09 2500 a different body style than this? The older body style?
@@TonyTheTruckGuy the 09 2500 is still a 4th gen, it looks the same, just no cubby hole
Weird. It must be a 2010 model year but built in 2009 because the 06-09 2500 and 3500 are different body style than the 09 1500. So what are you trying to put there? A cubby, a filler panel, or a brake controller?
@@TonyTheTruckGuy brake controller. I'm a minimalist, so I like the idea of it being integrated
Same haha. So is there just a filler panel right now in that spot? If it’s a 5th gen truck then I think this would work for you.
Great video. Talked to my dealership and they said I have to get the flash update on my 2011 Ram 1500 for it to work. I have heard this is not true. Thoughts?
It will work without the flash update, but if you have the LCD EVIC dash cluster that shows you all the information, you will need it flashed so that dash shows information about the brake controller.
@@TonyTheTruckGuy I have a 3500 with factory controller that i want to change out with a Tek P3... do you know if i will need to get the evic flashed for that. I don't care if the evic works i just don't want warning lights on etc.?
@@dptp9lf Sorry I’m not sure on that one. I just used the factory controller because I liked how clean and integrated it was. I’m not sure if an aftermarket one just plugs into the same connectors or not.
Yes have 6000k hi/low and 6000k fogs
Where did you get the smaller 4 pin harness that you hard wired in? I can't find one
+Ryaneg6freak I typed in the number in the video description into eBay but it looks like the seller doesn't have any for sale right now, try contacting him?
+PkwyDr thanks for the video. It should work even if it's no programmed in the display right?
+Joshua Collins It will work, but if you get it programmed, it will display on the dash as well and you can set up different trailers and I believe records things like how many miles you've towed each trailer.
My 2009 Ram 1500 doesn't seem to have either of those plugs. Wtf
Did your truck come with a factory tow package?
@@TonyTheTruckGuy yes.. I kinda of got two different story from my local Dodge dealerships too. One says I can just order the pigtail that plugs into the empty flat 4 plug next to the steering column. The other said I'd have to do aftermarket controller.
@@valiant7357 Hmm. And you can’t visually find either of the connectors taped up anywhere under the dash? They may not all be right in the exact same spot so make sure you’re looking up high enough and behind other wires and tape.
@@TonyTheTruckGuy I've scoured underneath that dash they're just not there. I guess it wasn't an option until 2010.
@@valiant7357 Very lame. So you’ll have to just run an old school style brake controller then I guess
What brake controller is the one that fits where you are putting this one in and can you buy it in a kit with all the wiring
Factory brake controller. Should bolt right up and you just need the second harness I have posted in video description.
I have the two plugs I’m still no have power to my 7 way conector to my brakes advise please
Is there any error message on the brake controller?
Seis trailer disconnected
And you have power to other 7 way pins for lights, etc? Just no signal for trailer brakes?
Yes Sr, no power on brakes I’m already checked whit my tester
All the lights work perfectly except the brakes
were on ebay did you find that 4 pin connector
www.ebay.com/itm/270755017120-WIRING-KIT-INSTALL-Ram-Integrated-Trailer-Brake-Controller-/272849708502?hash=item3f871c25d6:g:zKQAAOSwstxVFJyr&vxp=mtr
Gray Easter 8
I was able to locate the connector on Mopars Connector Repair site at connectors.dcctools.com/details.htm?id=82181
But this connector is listed as not available ;(
Does any one know where or how to search for that power plug adapter? The part numbers listed no longer exist.
www.ebay.com/itm/273555639354?hash=item3fb12fcc3a:g:zKQAAOSwstxVFJyr
I have the 2012 1500 express, I checked on this one, it said it does not work with my truck.
@@jeffwitkowski6423 Mine was also an express and they list the same part number that I originally listed in the video description, so I’m not sure why it wouldn’t work. Maybe try to contact the seller and ask just to verify.
Thank you. Appreciate it!
I have a 2012 sport and it says that ebay part wont fit, is that what it says if it doesnt come with it factory?
I installed but it didn't work flashing IF on the controller
Was it a known good controller? And did you watch the video again to double check proper wiring?
brand new controller. w
Which wire went to which terminal on the controller
It looks good now. Bad connection I think. Just need to test drive.
Sounds good man, glad you got it figured out!
what gauge wire was ignition wires
Not sure, it was pre wired. Probably 18 gauge.
there was a 2nd plug down there, you don't need to splice into the ignition *facepalm*
Thanks for your response to Ashley, I asked her to type something up for me because I could not find the part but finally I got it. Try ebay part#271821904700. Got the part, took it down to the dealer and got it installed with no issues.
Thanks again!!
I wasn't able to find this part. Is there another number?
2483764087
+David Wehman nothing came up. Thanks though. Do you happen to know what those three wires control?
+Joshua Collins, the number I posted above is a phone number. The 3 wires are the power source. 1 is hot at all times, 1 is hot when keyed and the third is ground.
+Joshua Collins Ram Integrated Trailer Brake Controller #270755017120
type in 270755017120 into the search bar, should take you right to it.