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I had a bad spot in my yard from large pine trees and years of neglect. Last year, I used a towable thatch rake to pull up trash. Scalped it to grind up the thatch before seeding with fescue. I never did see any grass growing into the fall and was disappointed. This summer, the grass came nicely and looks way better than it ever did with only a few weedy patches outside of the concentration area.. Like you said, give it some time and the work invested can pay off.. Just did a light overseeding of the entire lawn to add uniform texture, may require several years to fix all the problems (using Scotts Heat Tolerant Blue mix)
Grat video, THANKS!!! I have been looking for something like this which recommended what specific things to do step by step. Ill be watching this alot specially now that im getting ready to reseed soon. Thanks again and keep the great work
I have a towable tine rake that works very well. I love it. I can tow it behind my mower. If you put some weight on the tine rake it detaches more aggressively. Also if the ground has been softened by recent rain, it will put parallel grooves in the ground that the seeds will fall into and keep the seed from blowing or washing away.
I have a tow behind dethatcher that know one talks about, its a little rougher probably on the grass ,but you can put bricks on it to adjust the depth with weight. I have 16,000 ft of lawn, so you feeling me. I like the in depth commentary on overseeding, and will be doing everthying you mentioned next week here in northern new england. I am going to fertilize a week later as well ,Ryan knorr mentioned this also and it makes alot of sense . I will have the time with tall fescue before it germinates. Great video!
Great help Thanks man I'm growing 100% Kentucky Bluegrass and it came out great I put a light cut on it when it got close to 3'' But it's looking Awesome I had about 2000 Sq ft, to seed I do have some light spots in 2-3 places but I can get that in the spring I'm up in Indiana Great help my friend "Thanks"
Thank you, this video was very helpful and informative. My biggest challenge every year is my oak trees. In the spring I intend to do a complete soil analysis so I really know what's going on. In the meantime I have subscribed to your channel and I look forward to watching more of your videos.
I am in Michigan and need to start now before it gets too cold 🥶. However, I made the mistake😩I put down weed and feed, not thinking about getting ready to overseed . Now I have to wait two more weeks, it has been a week and a half, so the weed killer doesn’t affect the germinating seed.
What do you do about birds and squirrels that dig into your new seeded lawn? I put peat moss on top, but they constantly leave hole in the seeded lawn.
Just to add on my system of overseeding , any bare spots wider than say 4- 5 " in a sunny area i will lightly top dress with peat . My house faces south west so its the hottest sun angle to have , especially around edging of concrete and asphalt witch makes your grass edges even hotter.
I skipped my dethatch and aerate for the last two seasons and now mid summer I have some small patches of pure poa triv to repair I think that tall fescue will over power the poa triv if you help it out. I am all set to give a plant groth regulator a try this fall after the dethatch. Some say it helps the roots of the tall fescue and that triv does not like it. I am afraid to do tenacity and plant growth regulator together but would like to.
Tall fescue isn’t going to over power the poa sadly. Unless you have the spreading tall fescue it’s only going to grow in place. Also tenacity won’t do anything to poa, i would dig out the poa spots and reseed with fescue.
I am in the Midwest; southeast Michigan, Oakland county. I am on 4 acres of all lawn that needs overseeding. The soil type is sandy with about 12 inches of black peat, so I have really good soil to overseed. I don't have a sprinkler system. The grass in front of house is really nice and green. I kee pit cut at three inches. On the sides of the property, the grass thins out. I need oto overseed. Generally sppeakng, do I want to concentrate on fine fesque, or turf type tall fesque, or perennial rye?, or blue grass? I like the look of thin bladed grass. I mow with a Ford tractor, and a 6 foot Landpride mower deck pulled behind. How do I get water to large areas with garden hoses? But more importantly, what is my best seed of choice?
Any of those type of seeds will work in your area, it will really come down to what you like best. Tttf will deal with the summers the best. Check out big sprinkler.com for the watering hardware.
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When is it too late to overseed? Our fall has been warm and now the highs are in 70s in Colorado mid 30's. Aeration will be done later this week. Thank you!
So if you have a decent established lawn still wait on the starter fertilizer? When watering still just go easy the first week? Water like 4 times. per day 5 minutes per zone? Thank you
I just subscribed to this channel and the info you have is amazing, does this procedure works in Florida? My yard isn’t looking this great in FL and I would love to follow these steps to put some new life on my yard.
I’m not very experienced with warm season grasses to be 100% honest, but I would think the same processes would transfer over pretty well. @thelawncarenut has tons of amazing videos on warm season grasses.
@@TheRealLawnFather thank you I will take a look and I will be watching your videos regardless . I spent all weekend watching your videos and am doing some research on how to improve my yard. I’m ready to get dirty
If the lawn is mostly green when it's long, but shows yellowing areas after cutting. And if you dig deep with your fingers and see yellow blades down deep. But the moisture meter says good, what might the problem be. Should mention the lawn was immaculate, nice deep green and thick. Then we got 2 months of hot dry weather and a few days of heavy downpours followed by 90+ again. Started seeing signs of deep yellowing where the low spots are. Should also mention this lawn is only 3 years old over drainage stone with once was 4" to 6" of good top soil. Lawn has always looked thick and dark green. Lots of lime and ironite 2 times or more a season with the regular Scotts maintenance fertilizer and grub killer. I was told 2 weeks ago to stop watering and let lawn grow long. Said it's been too hot and then heavy rains. But it's showing signs of more yellowing. I did a test section of dethatching at highest position and it thin it out and shows more of the deep yellowing below blades just above soil. Not sure if I should go all out and scarify and air rate or not. Any suggestions?
I'm in lower Midwest. Here is my schedule. Is this good? 1) Late Sept: Early Fall fertilize (30-0-12) 2) Early Oct: Aerate 2) Overseed immediately after aerating 3) Early Nov: Late Fall fertilize (30-0-12), after last cut
I would move that all to asap, depending exactly where you’re at and what seed you’re using, you could be butting up against a hard frost within a week of putting seed down.
Awesome video! So I’m moving into my first house in kannapolis nc. .4 acre lot. What are you thinking should be my initial purchases as a new home owner? Yard has a lot trees in the back so my list so far in order of importance goes 1. Toro super recycler 2. Stihl kombi weed eater 3. Stihl br 600 blower 4. Scott edge guard spreader Where should I go after that? Dethatcher? It’s a little overwhelming trying to figure out what I need to do first. I close on October 7th. Is that too late in the year to over seed?
I would look up when your average first frost date is in that area. If you plant something that germinates fast you might have time, pay attention to how much shade you get with the trees and that will help you determine grass type that would grow best.
That will depend on what you like, if you like shorter grass you would look at Kentucky blue grass and Rye grass, but both of those take more work and water to kept looking good. TTTF or turf type tall fescue like to be kept taller, think 3”+, looks really good and nice and soft, and requires less work and water.
@@TheRealLawnFather yes I like a tall plush like lawn!! Do you a email I can send you pics of the current condition to get a better idea on how to attack the problem..
Sir, trying to win the Yard of the Fall trophy out here. The BLUF, currently I have centepide in Columbia, SC. I was planning to overseed with Raygrass but I read that Centepide with Raygrass will create a lot of problems. Another article advises oversees with Fescue for the fall/winter to keep the green lawn going thru the season. Do you have any advice/recommendations?
To get past the summer heat, the grass was long. Now I am training the grass to be lower and I am dethatching. by rake, because I don't have tons of thatch. I am going to aerate and this time use sand because I have an older property and then I'm going to seed with KB and tall fescue and top dress with loam/sphagnum. As I am typing this, I am listening and it seems like I'm a minute ahead of the video. I found that if you have any patchy areas, I've had better success with putting a lot of seed and mixing it in with the dirt. This way if some animal digs, they are just exposing other seed. I also drop chicken wire over these and the squirrels don't like it. PS. People are only concerned with weeds in spring because they bloom. Kill them now. You can see them, they aren't blooming. Establish the lawn now and they won't stand much of a chance in the spring because what is left will be crowded out. Edit: Sharpen the mower blade. If you don't you tear the grass instead of cutting it, and it looks like the top of Bart Simpson's head and the tips brown.
When is the best time month to dethach? I am thinking of dethaching when I aerate in third week of September. Does that make sense? I am in Boston area. Much appreciated
Great video. Should i also use a rake to help get the seeds touching the soil? I have mowed the lawn real short and used a hand detatcher tool. So curious if the leaf rake also helpful.
@@TheRealLawnFather thanks. Also- question on areation. I just finnished areating my lawn with one of those 3 prong step on tools. Will the holes plug back up over nite and thus in the am will need to do it again? Thx in advance.
So very helpful and easy to follow. Question.. it's finally in the 70s here in Philly...i planned on reseeding now. Do you think I've missed the window? I have under 1k lawn. Thank you much
I did a partial restoration (pulled out the soil, where Poa annua and Trivialis were) used a pre emergent(BASF STOMP AQUA) to stop the germaination of annua seeds, put soil activator, fertilizer and then ree and overseeded the lawn. The problem was I got a bit late (becasue of the pre emergent I had to wait 45 days before seeding) and the temperatures and sun wasnt great. So the seeds eventualy came but only to about 1-1,5 inch, becasue I used a shade grass with Poa supina I also think that some of the late germ grass didnt come at all and will come in Spring if .. My question ist there a problem now with freeze to this young grass and how about the seeds that did not come yet?
I live in the NW and heard a great time to overseed is late in our fall, allowing the seed to remain, ungerminated and under the winter snow, to then emerge sometime in the spring. Thoughts?
What is the exact sequence for overseeding? 1-dethatch 2- aeration 3 -top dressing with compost 4- overseeding 5 - apply starter fertilizer 6- water in Please advise. Thank you
Great vid !! I liv in ny state. I’d like to start yur process but I hava lotta weeds - crabgrass etc… u state to disregard the weeds and focus on it in the spring. Did I get that right?! Thx👍🏼
Do you put down peat moss after seeding or after fertilizing? Most people say not to use weed and feed after seeding, if you do you should wait 3 or 4 weeks.......is that correct?
Nice video. Wish I had seen it two weeks ago. I live not far from you in Elon but out in the country. I have about 10,000 square feet in my front yard that want to have grass. Prior it was a gravel circular driveway. I had 7 loads of dirt brought in and smoothed out and the people that did this for me planted a mix of Rye and Fescue. I then bought 50 more pounds of that mix and another 50 pounds of Kentucky Fescue and spread it. It seems all I am seeing is the Rye. Guess I did this all wrong.
@@TheRealLawnFather thanks for the response. Any suggestions with an are that large on what type of sprinkler could cover enough space to keep it moist?
No one ever talks about manual pull behind dethatchers. Pull behind your riding mower. They also make them to go on the front of most lawn sweepers. It’s much easier and is more cost effective for most. Most people are not going to go rent a few hundred pound aerator either. A simple pull behind core aerator is a one time purchase. Of course this is for folks who have yards big enough to have a riding mower or zero turn.
I've recently been told that dethatching in the fall isn't good for the midwest and to do it in the Spring instead. The logic was to use the layer as a blanket for the winter for the grass, along with clippings. Wouldn't that impede the overseed and create a barrier from it hitting the soil?
Great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am new to Maryland, Seems like I have 3 types of grass in my yard., what do you suggest? I normally mow at 3". My front yard is thick, turns brown in winter, not sure what it is. Thank you,, Thank you
It depends on your temps right now, if you’re not going to overseed you can probably skip the dethatching. Unless you have a ton of thatch then it makes it hard for the fert to easily reach the soil.
When aerating your lawn before, you do the seating, what I use as a pitchfork and put the holes in the ground I find that useful as well. It’s also a cheaper way lol but it works. Also you mentioned doing a second application of Starter fertilizer later on afterwards what about using, the winter care fertilizer which will be about 6 to 8 weeks afterwards which is not too close to getting to the winter time would that be suitable instead of using the starter fertilizer for the second time?
A pitch form isn’t curing comparison though like actual core aerating, not is it bringing soil to the top for better seed to soil contact, BUT it is opening up path ways for air/water/nutrients so it’s definitely beneficial. What’s the npk on the winter care fert?
I used granular 12-12-12, liquid I used 16-21-2. Simple lawn solutions 3-18-18 is awesome also. On my SLS portion of my yard I did 3-18-18 the day of seeding and their 16-4-8 two weeks later.
I want to over seed but existing blue grass has grubs , fungus and brown spots at the same time. What do you think my plan of action should be ? It’s second week of September and my fall window of over seeding is running out. Need your help ? Thank you Dave
Hey Dave, I’d do the normal steps in the video, but I’d put down some 24 hour grub killer after aerating. You could spray some bio advanced fungus treatment before seeding. But you’re right, the window for kbg is closing quickly. Best of luck!
Hello, and thank you...Scotts has a ton of weed and feed and the exact one you have on the video is a lot of money...$86 bad 5000Sq FT. Other Scotts weed and feed bags are only $16 for 5000 Sq ft. . Do all the weed and feed scotts bags contain the tenacity ingredient? I want that ingredient. Im in Central NJ and every Early August I get hit hard with yellow nuts edge which tenacity helps with.
Any issue if I put down tenacity now, wait two weeks, then dethatch/aerate etc, then tenacity again and seed at that time? My lawn is looking pretty bad and just worried that the seed wont make good contact until i remove most of these weeds. Thanks!
Keep on the path of keeping it moist, maybe back it down to twice a day watering until the first mow. Then move back to your normal watering, less often but deeper.
@@TheRealLawnFather apparently there's a 50% chance it'll hit 32degrees by 10/5. And a 90% chance of 32 by 10/15. It's been unseasonably warm though and the 10day forecast calls for lows of 50 degrees only.
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Great video. I am in zone 8A can I use tall fescue seed? Thanks.
@@navyjohnes that’s going to be tough, that looks like it’s the bottom side of the transition zone.
@@TheRealLawnFather Yes it is. I guess I’m stuck with Bermuda or Zoysia.
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I had a bad spot in my yard from large pine trees and years of neglect. Last year, I used a towable thatch rake to pull up trash. Scalped it to grind up the thatch before seeding with fescue. I never did see any grass growing into the fall and was disappointed. This summer, the grass came nicely and looks way better than it ever did with only a few weedy patches outside of the concentration area.. Like you said, give it some time and the work invested can pay off.. Just did a light overseeding of the entire lawn to add uniform texture, may require several years to fix all the problems (using Scotts Heat Tolerant Blue mix)
This a great step by step, detailed video. Thanks so much.
Grat video, THANKS!!! I have been looking for something like this which recommended what specific things to do step by step. Ill be watching this alot specially now that im getting ready to reseed soon. Thanks again and keep the great work
I’m glad it helped!! Any questions feel free to shoot me a message on IG! Lawnfather10
Good to see you respond to the questions! Subscribed.
I definitely want to try and offer as much value as I can to everyone. The questions really help with that.
Its that time of year again, prepping for overseeding! Great job with the guide it is simple but yet informative
Thanks dude! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Man this overseeding video blew up my dude!!! Good work and nice content 🤙🏾👊🏾
Thank you! I almost didn’t post it because of how bad the lighting is , and even worse, how dry I was in the video lol
I have a towable tine rake that works very well. I love it. I can tow it behind my mower. If you put some weight on the tine rake it detaches more aggressively. Also if the ground has been softened by recent rain, it will put parallel grooves in the ground that the seeds will fall into and keep the seed from blowing or washing away.
@@eagleviewhd that would be really nice! I don’t have a big enough yard to justify a ride on.
I have a tow behind dethatcher that know one talks about, its a little rougher probably on the grass ,but you can put bricks on it to adjust the depth with weight. I have 16,000 ft of lawn, so you feeling me. I like the in depth commentary on overseeding, and will be doing everthying you mentioned next week here in northern new england. I am going to fertilize a week later as well ,Ryan knorr mentioned this also and it makes alot of sense . I will have the time with tall fescue before it germinates. Great video!
Thank you! Sounds like a good time being able to tow it around lol
Great content Andy! Very thorough and easy to understand. Will see if I have the time to invest this fall 😎
Thank you! I’m only doing the front of my house this year. Gotta get more fescue in the lawn!
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Great video! Educational and easy to understand. THANKS!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
I agreed with everything you said. You have a new subscriber here. Thanks for posting this quality video!
I’m glad it helped!
Good video man. Subscribed. Keep up the good work.
Great help Thanks man I'm growing 100% Kentucky Bluegrass and it came out great I put a light cut on it when it got close to 3'' But it's looking Awesome I had about 2000 Sq ft, to seed I do have some light spots in 2-3 places but I can get that in the spring I'm up in Indiana Great help my friend "Thanks"
No bullshit. Straight to point. Great job. Keep it up
You got yourself a new subscriber.
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Great job of explaning this process. Thanks.
Thank you...straight to the point and well explained.
Great Video!!! Really appreciate it.
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Great video, detailed and helpful
Thank you, this video was very helpful and informative. My biggest challenge every year is my oak trees. In the spring I intend to do a complete soil analysis so I really know what's going on. In the meantime I have subscribed to your channel and I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Awesome! Happy to hear it helped!
Great video brother !!
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Very informative. Thank you.
What fertilizer do you recommend after the starter fertilizer? Use staryer fertilizer again? Then mid November? Use what? A fall fertilizer? Thanks
I am in Michigan and need to start now before it gets too cold 🥶. However, I made the mistake😩I put down weed and feed, not thinking about getting ready to overseed . Now I have to wait two more weeks, it has been a week and a half, so the weed killer doesn’t affect the germinating seed.
Oh man! Hopefully what you’re putting down will germinate quickly
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No sarcasm meant here…. That’s pretty fricken awesome lol
Now this the BEST video ever! Extremely informative. Thank you
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What do you do about birds and squirrels that dig into your new seeded lawn? I put peat moss on top, but they constantly leave hole in the seeded lawn.
Just to add on my system of overseeding , any bare spots wider than say 4- 5 " in a sunny area i will lightly top dress with peat . My house faces south west so its the hottest sun angle to have , especially around edging of concrete and asphalt witch makes your grass edges even hotter.
I skipped my dethatch and aerate for the last two seasons and now mid summer I have some small patches of pure poa triv to repair I think that tall fescue will over power the poa triv if you help it out. I am all set to give a plant groth regulator a try this fall after the dethatch. Some say it helps the roots of the tall fescue and that triv does not like it. I am afraid to do tenacity and plant growth regulator together but would like to.
Tall fescue isn’t going to over power the poa sadly. Unless you have the spreading tall fescue it’s only going to grow in place. Also tenacity won’t do anything to poa, i would dig out the poa spots and reseed with fescue.
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This was so helpful thank you!!!
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Great info Andy.
Thanks dude
What about covering the new seed with a lite cover of loam or peat to protect from birds & hold moisture..??
You can certainly do that, I never have on an overseed, but if you’re starting with bare dirt I would absolutely do that.
@@TheRealLawnFather I do it on my grown lawn for my annual fall seeding.. great results..👍
@@runninonmt8259 💪🏻 I’m gearing up for it now.
I am in the Midwest; southeast Michigan, Oakland county. I am on 4 acres of all lawn that needs overseeding. The soil type is sandy with about 12 inches of black peat, so I have really good soil to overseed. I don't have a sprinkler system. The grass in front of house is really nice and green. I kee pit cut at three inches. On the sides of the property, the grass thins out. I need oto overseed. Generally sppeakng, do I want to concentrate on fine fesque, or turf type tall fesque, or perennial rye?, or blue grass? I like the look of thin bladed grass. I mow with a Ford tractor, and a 6 foot Landpride mower deck pulled behind. How do I get water to large areas with garden hoses? But more importantly, what is my best seed of choice?
Any of those type of seeds will work in your area, it will really come down to what you like best. Tttf will deal with the summers the best. Check out big sprinkler.com for the watering hardware.
Great vid, thanks! I took notes
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So this means on October I can do aereation and than put the grass seed on for May to be ready for the fallowing year.
When is it too late to overseed? Our fall has been warm and now the highs are in 70s in Colorado mid 30's. Aeration will be done later this week. Thank you!
So if you have a decent established lawn still wait on the starter fertilizer? When watering still just go easy the first week? Water like 4 times. per day 5 minutes per zone? Thank you
You're very enthusiastic
🤣 as soon as I posted it and watched it back all I could think of was bueller….
I just subscribed to this channel and the info you have is amazing, does this procedure works in Florida? My yard isn’t looking this great in FL and I would love to follow these steps to put some new life on my yard.
I’m not very experienced with warm season grasses to be 100% honest, but I would think the same processes would transfer over pretty well. @thelawncarenut has tons of amazing videos on warm season grasses.
@@TheRealLawnFather thank you I will take a look and I will be watching your videos regardless . I spent all weekend watching your videos and am doing some research on how to improve my yard. I’m ready to get dirty
@@alvinxortiz1464 I appreciate the support! I hope to have another video out next week.
If the lawn is mostly green when it's long, but shows yellowing areas after cutting. And if you dig deep with your fingers and see yellow blades down deep. But the moisture meter says good, what might the problem be.
Should mention the lawn was immaculate, nice deep green and thick. Then we got 2 months of hot dry weather and a few days of heavy downpours followed by 90+ again. Started seeing signs of deep yellowing where the low spots are. Should also mention this lawn is only 3 years old over drainage stone with once was 4" to 6" of good top soil. Lawn has always looked thick and dark green. Lots of lime and ironite 2 times or more a season with the regular Scotts maintenance fertilizer and grub killer. I was told 2 weeks ago to stop watering and let lawn grow long. Said it's been too hot and then heavy rains. But it's showing signs of more yellowing.
I did a test section of dethatching at highest position and it thin it out and shows more of the deep yellowing below blades just above soil. Not sure if I should go all out and scarify and air rate or not. Any suggestions?
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Tall Fescue overseed in SC. I have lots of large bare clay spots. Should I put a couple of inches of top dressing before or after core aeration?
I'm in lower Midwest. Here is my schedule. Is this good?
1) Late Sept: Early Fall fertilize (30-0-12)
2) Early Oct: Aerate
2) Overseed immediately after aerating
3) Early Nov: Late Fall fertilize (30-0-12), after last cut
I would move that all to asap, depending exactly where you’re at and what seed you’re using, you could be butting up against a hard frost within a week of putting seed down.
@@TheRealLawnFather Thanks. My lawn service has scheduled aeration for early Oct.
Awesome video! So I’m moving into my first house in kannapolis nc. .4 acre lot. What are you thinking should be my initial purchases as a new home owner? Yard has a lot trees in the back so my list so far in order of importance goes
1. Toro super recycler
2. Stihl kombi weed eater
3. Stihl br 600 blower
4. Scott edge guard spreader
Where should I go after that? Dethatcher? It’s a little overwhelming trying to figure out what I need to do first. I close on October 7th. Is that too late in the year to over seed?
I would look up when your average first frost date is in that area. If you plant something that germinates fast you might have time, pay attention to how much shade you get with the trees and that will help you determine grass type that would grow best.
@@TheRealLawnFather perfect! Thanks!
I’m in Michigan and just closed on a home,last owners did NOTHING to the yard…what seeds should I use to start the journey!?
That will depend on what you like, if you like shorter grass you would look at Kentucky blue grass and Rye grass, but both of those take more work and water to kept looking good. TTTF or turf type tall fescue like to be kept taller, think 3”+, looks really good and nice and soft, and requires less work and water.
@@TheRealLawnFather yes I like a tall plush like lawn!! Do you a email I can send you pics of the current condition to get a better idea on how to attack the problem..
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Sir, trying to win the Yard of the Fall trophy out here. The BLUF, currently I have centepide in Columbia, SC. I was planning to overseed with Raygrass but I read that Centepide with Raygrass will create a lot of problems. Another article advises oversees with Fescue for the fall/winter to keep the green lawn going thru the season. Do you have any advice/recommendations?
To get past the summer heat, the grass was long. Now I am training the grass to be lower and I am dethatching. by rake, because I don't have tons of thatch. I am going to aerate and this time use sand because I have an older property and then I'm going to seed with KB and tall fescue and top dress with loam/sphagnum. As I am typing this, I am listening and it seems like I'm a minute ahead of the video. I found that if you have any patchy areas, I've had better success with putting a lot of seed and mixing it in with the dirt. This way if some animal digs, they are just exposing other seed. I also drop chicken wire over these and the squirrels don't like it.
PS. People are only concerned with weeds in spring because they bloom. Kill them now. You can see them, they aren't blooming. Establish the lawn now and they won't stand much of a chance in the spring because what is left will be crowded out.
Edit: Sharpen the mower blade. If you don't you tear the grass instead of cutting it, and it looks like the top of Bart Simpson's head and the tips brown.
When is the best time month to dethach? I am thinking of dethaching when I aerate in third week of September. Does that make sense? I am in Boston area. Much appreciated
Sounds like a good time to me, I usually do both of those the beginning of September, depending on the temps obviously.
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How about slice seeding after dethatching? Good idea or not vs just overseeding . Had to use tenacity after dethaching. Alot of bent grass. Thanks
I'll be at work during the watering hours
That does make it tough. WiFi controller would solve that though.
Great video. Should i also use a rake to help get the seeds touching the soil? I have mowed the lawn real short and used a hand detatcher tool. So curious if the leaf rake also helpful.
You definitely could, more so on the areas that are a little thin.
@@TheRealLawnFather thanks. Also- question on areation. I just finnished areating my lawn with one of those 3 prong step on tools. Will the holes plug back up over nite and thus in the am will need to do it again? Thx in advance.
No it will take some time for them to fill back in.
So very helpful and easy to follow.
Question.. it's finally in the 70s here in Philly...i planned on reseeding now. Do you think I've missed the window? I have under 1k lawn. Thank you much
It depends when your average first frost is. If you plant something that grows fast you might be okay.
@@TheRealLawnFather this things are still growing. We don't get a frost until Dec...
Good job Andy 👍🏼
Thanks dude
I did a partial restoration (pulled out the soil, where Poa annua and Trivialis were) used a pre emergent(BASF STOMP AQUA) to stop the germaination of annua seeds, put soil activator, fertilizer and then ree and overseeded the lawn. The problem was I got a bit late (becasue of the pre emergent I had to wait 45 days before seeding) and the temperatures and sun wasnt great. So the seeds eventualy came but only to about 1-1,5 inch, becasue I used a shade grass with Poa supina I also think that some of the late germ grass didnt come at all and will come in Spring if .. My question ist there a problem now with freeze to this young grass and how about the seeds that did not come yet?
I live in the NW and heard a great time to overseed is late in our fall, allowing the seed to remain, ungerminated and under the winter snow, to then emerge sometime in the spring. Thoughts?
It works, but definitely not as well as overseeding right now. Probably 30% less germination than fall seeding if I had to throw a number at it.
How long do you recommend waiting to overseed after using weed and feed? When is the best time to overseed in general for east coast?
I believe weed and feed has a preemergent in it, if I remember correctly you have to wait something around 90days.
Very helpful thank you
What is the exact sequence for overseeding?
1-dethatch
2- aeration
3 -top dressing with compost
4- overseeding
5 - apply starter fertilizer
6- water in
Please advise. Thank you
This video is the exact sequence 🤷🏻♂️
Very good
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Great vid !! I liv in ny state. I’d like to start yur process but I hava lotta weeds - crabgrass etc… u state to disregard the weeds and focus on it in the spring. Did I get that right?!
Thx👍🏼
Yup! Let winter kill them and put pre emergent down around 55 soil temp and the grass will grow without weed competition in the spring.
than you so much my friend.
Nice.
Good stuff man!
Can I level my lawn then overseed?
@@seanphann7531 absolutely
Can one use this same process late fall, have the seed overwinter and have germination in the spring? We live in west central Minnesota. Thanks
Ive heard of people doing it, but I think the germination rates are much lower.
After seeding, are you supposed to use a cover like peat moss, or can you get away with not using anything?
I’ve never used anything when I overseed.
What setting should I use the sun joe
When dethatching?
@@TriniDB you want it to just skim the top of the soil, you might to do some testing.
Do you put down peat moss after seeding or after fertilizing?
Most people say not to use weed and feed after seeding, if you do you should wait 3 or 4 weeks.......is that correct?
Peat moss after seed, you shouldn’t be using weed and feed for months after seeding… if ever, it’s not a good product to have a great lawn with.
You did not top dress with organic compost??
Awesome thanks 🙏
Nice video. Wish I had seen it two weeks ago. I live not far from you in Elon but out in the country. I have about 10,000 square feet in my front yard that want to have grass. Prior it was a gravel circular driveway. I had 7 loads of dirt brought in and smoothed out and the people that did this for me planted a mix of Rye and Fescue. I then bought 50 more pounds of that mix and another 50 pounds of Kentucky Fescue and spread it. It seems all I am seeing is the Rye. Guess I did this all wrong.
Rye comes up much faster than fescue, fescue needs almost double the time to come up that rye does. Keep it moist, it will come.
@@TheRealLawnFather thanks for the response. Any suggestions with an are that large on what type of sprinkler could cover enough space to keep it moist?
@@janwilliams4282 check out bigsprinklers.com
No one ever talks about manual pull behind dethatchers. Pull behind your riding mower. They also make them to go on the front of most lawn sweepers. It’s much easier and is more cost effective for most. Most people are not going to go rent a few hundred pound aerator either. A simple pull behind core aerator is a one time purchase. Of course this is for folks who have yards big enough to have a riding mower or zero turn.
My problem with the attachment dethatcher is the space between the tines, most are 4-5 inches apart.
@@TheRealLawnFather but the Manual work it takes away is far worth it.
I've recently been told that dethatching in the fall isn't good for the midwest and to do it in the Spring instead. The logic was to use the layer as a blanket for the winter for the grass, along with clippings. Wouldn't that impede the overseed and create a barrier from it hitting the soil?
It 100% stops the seed from hitting the soil, obviously depending on how much thatch there is.
Also ....Spring is when new grass is coming up. You don't want to dethatch then. Do it in the FALL !
@@kevinv9217 🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔
Seed to soil contact is the most important thing. Do your dethatching and aerating in the fall.
@@Chrisbennett-k5h MAKES SENSE
Great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am new to Maryland, Seems like I have 3 types of grass in my yard., what do you suggest? I normally mow at 3". My front yard is thick, turns brown
in winter, not sure what it is. Thank you,, Thank you
Thank you!!
It turns brown when it gets wet? That’s not something I’ve heard of before lol
@@TheRealLawnFather So sorry for lack of detail, just turns brown during winter, very thick and green otherwise.
@@T1DSUX ohhhh okay, that’s just a cool season grass going dormant. That’s completely normal.
Have you ever used 0-0-25 from simple solutions,? Also how about biochar? Thank you
I’ve not used either one.
Hi I want to ask if my lawn is fully yellow should I do the detaching will it work or I should just use fertilizer on the existing grass.
It depends on your temps right now, if you’re not going to overseed you can probably skip the dethatching. Unless you have a ton of thatch then it makes it hard for the fert to easily reach the soil.
@@TheRealLawnFather thanks probably I will do a light dethach.
When aerating your lawn before, you do the seating, what I use as a pitchfork and put the holes in the ground I find that useful as well. It’s also a cheaper way lol but it works. Also you mentioned doing a second application of Starter fertilizer later on afterwards what about using, the winter care fertilizer which will be about 6 to 8 weeks afterwards which is not too close to getting to the winter time would that be suitable instead of using the starter fertilizer for the second time?
A pitch form isn’t curing comparison though like actual core aerating, not is it bringing soil to the top for better seed to soil contact, BUT it is opening up path ways for air/water/nutrients so it’s definitely beneficial. What’s the npk on the winter care fert?
@@TheRealLawnFather 32-0-10 for winter care.
@@rudy5454 only if you’re ready to mow non stop for a month lol
Excellent video. What is the % N P and K is there in your starter fertiliser. I’m looking to source the equivalent here in Ireland. Thanks..
I used granular 12-12-12, liquid I used 16-21-2. Simple lawn solutions 3-18-18 is awesome also. On my SLS portion of my yard I did 3-18-18 the day of seeding and their 16-4-8 two weeks later.
Can you aerate first to allow the detatcher to pick up the cores/mulch them up a little bit to act as a top dress ?
I don’t see a reason why not, would probably be pretty messy lol
I want to over seed but existing blue grass has grubs , fungus and brown spots at the same time. What do you think my plan of action should be ? It’s second week of September and my fall window of over seeding is running out. Need your help ? Thank you Dave
Hey Dave, I’d do the normal steps in the video, but I’d put down some 24 hour grub killer after aerating. You could spray some bio advanced fungus treatment before seeding.
But you’re right, the window for kbg is closing quickly. Best of luck!
Thank you for sharing your experience. That’s why I love your channel ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍🇨🇦
Is this feasible in a property that is 1.5 acres?
If you’re willing to put in the work it is lol. Thinking about doing all that on that much area is pretty intimidating.
Hello, and thank you...Scotts has a ton of weed and feed and the exact one you have on the video is a lot of money...$86 bad 5000Sq FT. Other Scotts weed and feed bags are only $16 for 5000 Sq ft. . Do all the weed and feed scotts bags contain the tenacity ingredient? I want that ingredient. Im in Central NJ and every Early August I get hit hard with yellow nuts edge which tenacity helps with.
No, weed and free is a pre emergent, you want the starter fertilizer with weed control.
Any issue if I put down tenacity now, wait two weeks, then dethatch/aerate etc, then tenacity again and seed at that time? My lawn is looking pretty bad and just worried that the seed wont make good contact until i remove most of these weeds. Thanks!
It depends how long you’re talking between apps, I wouldn’t apply tenacity more than once in a two week span.
That hat 👍
If my lawn have weeds in it what would be the best way to remove them before overseeding?
Spray tenacity at the time of seeding and it will take care of those and not hurt the new seeds.
@@TheRealLawnFather Thank you!!
Thank you 🙏
You’re welcome!
Can you use just milorganite for fertilizer after you seed? Or what about Scott’s lawn food?
I mean… You can, but it’s not nearly an ideal fert for seeding.
Once seed germinates how much would u water ?!
Keep on the path of keeping it moist, maybe back it down to twice a day watering until the first mow. Then move back to your normal watering, less often but deeper.
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@@TheRealLawnFather really simple and awesome video, I loved it
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If I had lots of dead grass this year, should I wait to dethatch that out of there until the spring when I reseed or get the dead plants out now?
Any reason you’re seeding in the spring and not now? This is literally the perfect time to do it.
@@TheRealLawnFather I'm in Minnesota so I'm worried it's too late
@@calemccallum9736 when is your average first frost there?
@@TheRealLawnFather apparently there's a 50% chance it'll hit 32degrees by 10/5. And a 90% chance of 32 by 10/15. It's been unseasonably warm though and the 10day forecast calls for lows of 50 degrees only.
Depending on what you’re seeding 50s is a bit low. I see why you’re waiting.
Does Scotts Triple Action have the same effect as Scotts Lawn Food Fertilizer?
I’m not up to speed on all of their stuff, but I think the triple action has a preemergent in it.
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