Overseeding your lawn the easy way. Golf Course Superintendent shows you how to seed your yard!
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- How to best seed your yard to recover from summer. Overseeding yards to introduce top varieties of grass to your yard. Also go over how to reseed the spots in your yard that did not make it through summer. I also show you how to renovate your yard when it needs a complete redo.
AMAZON LINKS TO ALL PRODUCTS & SPREADER SETTINGS FOR BLUEGRASS & BERMUDAGRASS SEED IN THIS VIDEO BELOW.
Mulch blade used to prepare the yard.
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Replacement springs for mulch blade.
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Tenacity herbicide for seeding. Can't be used on bermudagrass.
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Torocity Herbicide "Generic" Tenacity- Mesotrione Concentrate
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Scott's for seed with Mesotrione & starter fertilizer. Do not use on bermudagrass.
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Glyphosate Roundup. This only has glyphosate in it.
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Spreader settings. Bluegrass is approximately 150 SGN. Bermuda is approximately 100 SGN.
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Fiskars Tiller Cultivator
"Garden weasel"
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Adjustable metal leaf rake I like this take and it's cheep.
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Starter fertilizers: I like any of these. I have chosen them on price, analysis, and the amount of slow release nitrogen in them. Also they come in different size bags so you can get what you need.
15-20-10 Starter Fertilizer - 20% Slow-Release. You can get it in 18, 25 & 45 lb bags. Depending on the size of your lawn. High rate is 5lbs1000ft low 8lbs/1000 ft.
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Fertilome New Lawn Starter Fertilizer 9-13-7 also comes in different sizes. High rate is 8lbs/1000ft2 low rate is 5lbs/1000ft2.
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For large yards this Lesco 18-24-10 is a good option. It's comes in a 50lb bag and will do 12,000 to 24,000 sq ft./bag
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Irrigation timers
2 station
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4 station.
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Sprinklers
I like these metal ones. They throw a lot of water a long way adjustment of 90, 180 to full circle is easy.
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how do you feel about mixing the fescue with a different type of grass
There are folks that have success with seed mixes with rye, blue and fescue. I just prefer a mono stand. There is an advantage of having a fescue/rye mix. The ryegrass stripes up and the tall fescue gives you good fungicide resistance. There are so many different situations you run into "micro" and 'micro" climates in turf you got to find what works for you.
@GregPhillips.22 I am in Minneapolis with nearly all day shade.
I did not see your rye and tall fescue seed brand recommendations.
Also, what will work the best for my shade and location?
Thanks...
wow! have watched so many lawn renovation videos, and so glad the algorithm led me to yours. I absolutely love the simplicity and yet great detail of your presentation. 2 big pickups for me - I can use the dethatched dead grass material as mulch (holy hell why did I not think of this), and delaying the fertilizer application based on seed germination time to make it more effective. You've got a great channel, thanks for the info!
Appreciate the kind words. Glad I can help!
Excellent content. In the middle of a renovation (killed off creeping bentgrass and now growing new grass in stages). Refresher info for me but love good lawn discussions. Subscribed.
Thanks for the kind words! Happy to help!!
Great stuff ! Just subscribed. I’m retired also, for 10 years now. I’ve become an expert on my 13,000 sf. of TTTF/KBG lawn. Your advice is spot on. Plus you are teaching me more. Love it. Thank you and keep it coming.
Thanks for the encouragement!
Found this video three days after overseeding my lawn for the first time. Great tips and it helped me relax about all my steps. Was beginning to stress that I didn’t get enough old grass up, was I water enough, etc. but I basically followed your steps.
Learned that the 22 bags of thatch I took to the yard waste recycling could have been used for mulch! That’s going to save me a ton of time next year. Thank you!
That's what I try to do. Save you time and money.
I appreciate the long and very detailed videos. And I really appreciate your time when you reply to most if not all the comments!
thanks!! As I mentioned in my video. Getting near the end of my career and now spending time helping folks when I can.
Great info. Thanks u this is just what I need. Thank u for being so detailed. The best explanation ever I found
Glad I can help!. I am 14 days after seeding and near ready to mow in the backyard under the tree. The "patch yard" is further behind since it is in full sun and we have had four 90 degree + days and only one rain event. It is germinating, my goal for that yard is full recovery by halloween and am well on the way!
Greg, thanks so much for the videos and the information you share with all of us, it is greatly appreciated! You don’t have to do this, but choose to share your knowledge and help others! I commend you on your efforts, keep up the good work! God’s speed!!
Wow! Thanks for the kind words. If I can help folks save some time, money and achieve their goals it makes me happy.
Awesome. Never seen the de-thatcher spring. We usually use a traditional rental style dethatcher but this is good to know.
I would not recommend it for detaching but it is excellent for this application. it's another tool in the box and an inexpensive one too. Around 20 bucks. Here if my thatch video if you want to check it out. ruclips.net/video/DLpC3DVIq_I/видео.htmlsi=OzVxwXdq7DzacnAJ
Ugh, just found you. Wish I would have seen this before I did my back yard renovation.
Let me guess..tilled it up and worked like a dog? I actually purchase a used tiller when I did my bermudagrass transition. Tilled a couple of spots then said to hell with this. Ended up running my industrial grade dethatcher over my yard. It's where I got the idea for the blade I go over in the video.
I like the tip of reuseing the thatch. Peat moss is so expensive to use as a covering. Have you ever tried using a SunJoe scarifer?
I actually have a thatch video. The Sun Joe would be great for overseeding however, looking at $200+ for the Sun Joe that at least in most yards you would not use much. The dethatch blade is around $20 and actually does better in my opinion for this application. If you had bluegrass a SunJoe would be worth while tool to have. For most grasses dethatching rarely needed. More details in my thatch video. Just my take. here is my thatch video I you like to check it out. ruclips.net/video/DLpC3DVIq_I/видео.htmlsi=OzVxwXdq7DzacnAJ
Good info, thanks Greg.
Appreciate it. I did that last Monday. Seed started germinating yesterday..😀
I only have a 1200 sq ft yard out here in NYC and I've been having ridiculous trouble!!! This spring I grew in a pretty nice lawn using Jonathan Green Black-Beauty Ultra seeds and low-and-behold we get a surprise heatwave in late June, about 48-hours after it all grew in NO BS, and that nearly destroyed it all!! I cant even believe how much time, work, money and products I've used since last season and if you seen my yard you wouldn't even think I did anything at all, it's a total ugly mess!!!
Sorry! KBG is beautiful but high maintenance grass. My son is at Columbia so I am in town often. They have tall fescue in their courtyard. Gets trampled and they do re-sod it after big events. It holds up well though. Tall fescue would be lower maintenance and has higher drought/heat tolerance. My grass selection video goes over varieties and where to get excellent quality seed. I actually put tall fescue down in my backyard. ruclips.net/video/f8eDZDvYBhQ/видео.htmlsi=lhFIewWgXxocTIKn
@@GregPhillips.22 Well I already stocked up on the Jonathan Green Black-Beauty Heat and drought seeds that are made up of Kentucky blue-grass and perennial Rye, so well see what happens when I overseed in a couple of weeks, right now I'm treating the yard for insects. Turns out I had a huge ant infestation all around my house as well as grubs, so I used enough liquid and granular insecticide to kill a heard of Buffalo.
Great videos ! I live in Alabama and I am going to overseed my Bermuda with Ryegrass for the winter. I am going to wait at least until October to do this. What herbicide is safe for the existing Bermuda but want prevent the ryegrass from coming in? I know I can’t put a pre emergent down but I am not sure about others. You have great advice for people who are new to the grass thing! Thanks!!
Thanks!!! Glad I can help. Actually have a video on overseeding Bermuda. As far as herbicide. Celsius wound give you the largest spectrum of control of weeds in bermuda. Just have to put it on then wait 14 days before overseeding with rye.
Here is my bermudagrass overseeding video. ruclips.net/video/fbkEicv8KHY/видео.htmlsi=9Jgq-KIy4oEk8ETj
@@GregPhillips.22 ok thanks for the info and I will check out this video!!
Would I be able to use Quinclorac? I have a problem with lots of crabgrass in my curb strip. I understand I can throw down seeds 7 days later. I have Tall Fescue in middle TN.Thx.
Yep..limitation on quincloraq is it does not control "middle aged" crabgrass. Meaning if you put it out from July 7th to August 15th it will not control crabgrass. Since it is mature crabgrass you will wack it. Like quincloraq. It's just sold in such large containers that I shy away from it. If you find it in a smaller container than 1 gal let me know.
If the lawn has a ton of weeds, can you still use the clippings to mulch the overseeded lawn after treating with tenacity or is it best to discard those clippings and use added topsoil or peat moss?
Adding topsoil and moss would be ideal but rather pricy. Tenacity has post emergent properties for the weeds it controls but will not harm the seed you put down. So using grass clippings thst may have some weed seed in it would not be that big of deal.
@@GregPhillips.22 thank you! I’m a new subscriber! Your channel is very informative! I’ve learned a lot from watching your videos.
What time of year is latest for seeding bare spots at 6,000 ft elevation in Wyo? Am using cool season blend of fescue called shady lawn mix
If you are getting night time temps back in the 60s and/or daytime less than 85. No hard and fast rule but that would be a good indicator.
Really been enjoying your video's Greg! I'm retired for a few years now, and my lawn in NJ has been my hobby in the warmer months.
One question- i have ttf and just thatched and aerated. I wanted to reseed and was wondering your opinion on top dressing with a combination of potting soil and Black Cow composted manure. I used to use peat moss, but those bails are getting too heavy for this old guy lolo.
Many thanks again for your very detailed and informative videos.
Anthony
Anthony is my oldest son's name.😀 I am going to do a topdressing video. Couple of things about putting organic matter out as a topdressing. It can cause a layering effect in your soil. You want to topdress with a coarser material than what your soil is. Putting organic matter out without incorporating will cause this layering effect. What happens is the infiltration of water is compromised in your soil which can make rain water runoff rather than infiltrate the soil. Organic matter also has oils and waxes in it that compound the problem. It's why golf courses and sports fields topdress with sand only. It actually takes allot of organic matter to actually increase the soils% of organic matter. So I would topdress with sand only. Also it's a lot cheaper, as you mentioned easier to handle and apply.
@GregPhillips.22 You're the man! OK I'll ditch the compost idea. So glad I asked you!
I'll be waiting for your top dressing video. It's really great that you offer your time and expertise in lawncare. It's well appreciated.
All the best!
Anthony
@GregPhillips.22 My oldest son's name is also Anthony. He goes by Tony to his friends, but to mom and dad, he'll always be Anthony lolo
I like that detaching blade. I have 20000 SqFt yard. Why do you say you would not recommend to use it to detach yard? Does it do to much damage? I use a cheap pull behind right now but like the idea of the blade. Thanks
It does. Generally i do now recommend dethatching a yard. It is not as necessary as most people make it out to be. I have a thatch video I go into more details. ruclips.net/video/DLpC3DVIq_I/видео.htmlsi=2u7V7wEPn_OxRB6q
Quick question will be dethatching and overseeding on same day while also using the Scott’s mesotrione fertilizer… it will be my first time using plant growth regulator… should I apply 1/2 dose at time of seeding or wait until the tenacity does its thing…or wait until the seedlings mature (blue resilience blend of tall fescue and kbg)
Would not put PGR on new seedlings. Let them mature first. Also your existing grass likely slow from summer as well. If not can put the PGR out before new seed pops. What are you wanting to achieve with the PGR?
@@GregPhillips.22 in general less mowing, but with regard to timing with seeding it’s to stay off seedling prior to first mow… I have patches to fix in my backyard and didn’t want existing healthy lawn to get overgrown prior to first mow
that makes sense. I have Bermuda in my front and TF in the back under my tree so there are times if the year I have to mow the TF when the bermuda is dormant and its not a big deal. One of my professors at NCSU was an expert in PGRs. I used them on golf greens in the spring for seeded suppression when I had poa annua on putting greens mostly. They can actually help with drought stress and encourage horizontal growth in turf species with rhizomes and stolons (primo maxx).
I've always been confused about mowing after overseeding. Should you wait to mow or just continue the regular mowing schedule? Seems like mowing would disturb the new seed.
Not really...just go slow and have your blades sharp. Only real concern is pulling up the new seedlings with a dull blade.
I just planted a bush by an area I am overseeding soon and noticed some grubs. When can I put out grub control when seeding, should I wait a few weeks or throw it down now? Thanks love your videos
Grubs can feed until October. You will need the bioadvanced grub control 24 hour. Will leave my video and an Amazon link to what you need.
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Thanks again!@@GregPhillips.22
amazing
Thanks a lot!!!
I’ve seen a few videos on RUclips, where some folks are pre germinating their grass seed before applying it to the lawn. Curious to know your thoughts on this?
Waz going to mention that but video was running long. I have done that with bentgrass which like bluegrass takes several weeks to pop. It was a mess. Also, I did not see any real difference. Focus more on good soil seed contact. That is the key.
Greg, thanks for doing these videos. I have a lot of weeds in my yard. Is it okay to use the clippings as mulch? Or should I remove it all to get the seeds out and use something different like peat moss to cover the seeds? Thanks!
Likely you have a lot of seeds in your soil anyway. Its know as the soils "seed bank". You may get a little germination from summer weeds but mostly they are done for the year. Particularly after the first frost. You can also apply tenacity or Scott's for seed. That will put the kibosh on nearly anything that will germinate other than the seed you put down well until the first light frost.
What if the temperatures are still in the mid 90's like they are here in Zone 9B? Won't that negate the effects of Tenacity/Torocity? Or will it be shielded enough by the mulch so that it won't evaporate/dissipate?@@GregPhillips.22
My fescue is all crap right now, plus I'm dealing with weeds.
Tenacity and seeding will cure it.
Mine too. Never send it this bad
It has been a very difficult summer this year. The first hard summer we have had in the mid Atlantic for over a decade. Last few years I could count the 90+ degree days for the entire summer on one hand. This year we have had weeks of 90+. We were overdo.
Its brutal in CA. My grass is looking bad too
Any thoughts on pregerminating seed?
I have tried it with bentgrass seed and it was a mess. I have had a lot of questions on this and I actually may do a video on it very soon. It has been found that id can help particularly when seeding late in the season with cool season grasses. Here is an excellent article form University of Madison-Wisconsin archive.lib.msu.edu/tic/groot/article/1998may31.pdf
quick question, i already did my overseeding 2wks ago but didn’t do any weed killer , did i miss my window for weed killer , i do have some weeds in the lawn .
Tenacity could be used. One thing you may want to do if you don't have a lot of weeds, wait until October grass should be mature by then. You will have more herbicide options.
Do we wait a bit longer in CA to apply seeds? Still expecting 100 degree days in September
Yes. Particularly cool season grasses. Wait until you get consistent days in the mid/low 80s. I make my videos early so folks can plan, order parts, materials and be ready when the time is right.
@@GregPhillips.22 Thank you. Excellent channel and great information by the way
Im laying seed down tomorrow. If im pre germinating my seed, can i still put meso down beforehand? The seeds have been in water for 3 days and not yet cracking open.
I am not 100% sure on that one however. according to the label: "prior to seeding or post seeding of tolerant trufgrass species". ....so I THINK you would be ok. Usually labels are conservative on their recommendations to ensure there is no turf injury when using them....particularly herbicides. I will say I tried pre-soaking a few times years ago with bent grass. It like bluegrass takes 20 days to germinate. I really did not see much difference and I too had no luck in getting the seed to germinate in water. In addition it was a mess to apply with the spreader. Nearly impossible to put out when the seed was moist like that. Think you will be fine. Likely need to do a video on pre-soaking I see it seems to be the latest "thing" on you tube that is not what it is cracked up to be. Soil seed contact is much more important and in my opinion better to get the seed to germinate sooner than what pre-soaking provides.
@@GregPhillips.22 ok thanks Greg. Maybe ill pass on it this year. But I'll spray a small area just to see what happens.
Do you have any recommendations for starting Zoysia in a fescue lawn.
Is your fescue thin? If it is do it in early to mid June just before it gets warm and the tall fescue slows down. That will give the zoysia a good chance against the mature TF.
Are you saying to only water grass seed once and maybe twice a day?
Just enough to keep it moist. That's fairly much it. The mulch will help keep moisture in.
Hello Sir: what's the best grass seed to use in N.Y. State
I like tall fescue. Here is my video on grass/seed selection. I make recommendations on species, characteristics of different species and where to get seed. ruclips.net/video/f8eDZDvYBhQ/видео.htmlsi=QKqk7XIoFuFYpadA
I enjoy your video's however I never see links below your vids.
Glad you found them!
Instead of a garden weasel have you ever tried using a scarifier?
I actually had a Ryan dethatcher from one of the courses I had. I gave it to a young man that was starting landscape company. Did not use it enough to take up the garage space.
Gotcha, did it also have a "Scarifier" attachment? I like to use that to disturb the soil enough in large areas to put seed down. Waayyyy cheaper than an aerator.@@GregPhillips.22
Aerating when taking a court out is a lot different than scarifying. Aerating gets nutrients, water and oxygen further into the route zone of the plant where scarfing is more of a surface practice. Not a big deal so long as your yard meets your goals.
Worst is the crabgrass.
My apologies, found the links.
No problem! 😀 RUclips won't let me put the links up until after posting. Sometimes I miss it if it has posts within an hour or two. It's weird they limit that. I have went to scheduled time to post so I know exactly when I can put the links in the comments the moment of it posting.
U may be a hell of a golf course dude but u really need an editor. The subject is overseeding and u are discussing striping, moss, etc
Another thing. In the mid Atlantic with clay soil top dressing with sand is a very bad idea unless u planning selling bricks from ur lawn
Humm ok. Well will tell practically every golf and sports field to stop topdressing their tees and infields with sand. Also let Palmer course design know to change their golf construction specifications and to stop putting 2 inches of sand mix on their tees as well. Thanks letting us know!!! 😀
@@GregPhillips.22 Golf courses can afford to irrigate constantly. There isn’t a single state agency I. The mid Atlantic or north east that would recommend a residential lawn use sand to level. If there is please include the reference.
Great video and just because I would consider you a professional I’m going to correct you on two things. It’s Mesotrione. Not Mesotriome. Not sure where you got the M from? And it’s not aeryate it’s aerate pronounced eh-rayt. Two stupid things I know but like I said you been doing this for 35 years and I feel like no one told you the actual names of those two things lol other than that awesome tips!
😂lemme guess..you are from NY? I had a substitute professor one time in a weed science class in North Carolina State. He felt the need to correct us southern folks on how we say words like "moss" incorrectly and several others. As he went on word after word correcting a classroom of students nearly exclusively from the south about how they mispronounced words. We started looking at one another rolling our eyes some were flat out offended. I was just entertained on is his inability to read the room and how he was apparently very fired up on simple things. It was really entertaining. Our professor came to the next class and apologized. Never saw the substitute on campus again.
Glad the video helped. Will work on the accent!! 😂😂
@@GregPhillips.22 lol ok fine say aerate anyway you want that’s fair. But you can’t be misspelling AND mispronouncing Mesotrione! :)
Have a son at Columbia...next time I am up your way will buy you a beer! Thanks for the catch on the misspelling. I got to remember to wear my bifocals when I edit my videos.😂😂
Hey Greg, you’re gonna meet all kinds of folks here 😂
Had an employee one time keep saying and spelling it air raid 😂
Damn to long
We’re gonna miss having you around.
I try to make videos as short as I can and still get the info out there. Why I have been putting videos and descriptions in the video as I go along. Guess the question is..what to leave out?
I enjoy your videos however they are way too long they should be 13 minutes max
I try..edit short when I can. It's why I have started putting video in the video and words to try to get the info out there as quickly as possible.
I personally appreciate the deep dive.
Deep dive rules. Info is king not quick fixes. Labor and materials cost too much.
That is actually my #1 goal with the channel. There are so many videos on YT that the guy is ultimately selling a product. Sometimes actually giving bad advice just to move product. I know time and money are important so I am putting my take out there to save folks both AND have a great yard that can be proud of!!
So you'd rather have less info and fail. Some things just can't be explained in 10-13 minutes.
You can always play 2x speed.
Omg. Way too long. Too much fluff. Get to the point!
What do you consider as fluff?
Im in north central indiana and on a tight budget. I have a sunjoe dethatcher/scarifier, some torocity and some sub par seed. Yard is trashed. Mostly weeds and dead spots. Looked good until summer hit. Do you tbink i can start this (what i can do with the equipment i have) now?
Yup, knock out it. That is what I'm going to do. Greenworks scarifier, Toro cultivator/tiller, 24d and get my seed out asap. Got some 13 13 13 fertilizer half off last week and will throw it out once the seeds have germinated.
Yes sun Joe would do a good job opening up the yard for seed. Really only cost you would have is the seed. I go over where to get seed in my grass selection video if you want to check it out. The triple 13 fertilizer that @biblazer recommended is a inexpensive option. particularly if it is on sale. . ruclips.net/video/f8eDZDvYBhQ/видео.htmlsi=IJ6USpZZnvnid6bY