HEATING PIPES | HOW TO FILL THE CHASES
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One of the biggest problems people find when burying heating pipes is that they usually crack the plasterer.
the thing is, expansion from heat is a phenomenal force so rather that trying to force against nature, it's better to work with it.
there are things that plumbers can put around the pipes to give them space to expand but most of the time the plasterer will have to come up with a solution as the culture in the building trade seems to be... Leave it to the next guy.
so if your the next guy, here's a couple of solutions for you that actually work in the real world.
I hope you enjoy this video and thanks for watching 😃👍
The pipe work run in these days is normal , unless client wants to pay more , believe me many plumbers videos you can watch they only upload good ones , there’s the true sight which you wouldn’t see 😂
normal for sloppy work but in no way correct
thats not normal thats just plain and simple rough workmanship.
That's one of the worst installations I have ever seen, those pipes were not installed by a real tradesman, cowboy yes, tradesman no.
It's all the plastic push fit pipe and fittings and lack of proper apprenticeships, piss poor lead roof work by roofers and lack of pride in work. We were once the envy of the world for our tradesmen, now it's like the wild west.
Then you would recommend the plumber if he does that prep first
I'm no plumber, but I'd take a guess that neither is the geezer that did that pipe work.
My thoughts exactly
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It probably wasn't the plumbers job to chase the wall out it was probably a builders labourer
Yeah not within any zone at all....gonna be fun when next person buys the house and goes to fix something to the wall. 😂
I'm a 55 year old,...... old school gas engineer and belive me I would never leave that rough job to the plasterer. Well rescued . If a customer insists on buried pipework it's definitely being run in 15mm copper and I am definitely chasing the pipes in. And cleaning all my shit up.
Yes ther not plumbers now its press fit guns and push fit pipes in walls need to be in felt lagging to allow for expansion and corrosion
Yeah im counting those speedfit fittings all getting buried!
That plumber should be ashamed leaving it looking like that, but he won't, that's why he left it like that. Well rescued. Lots of great tips, very educational.
Your apprentice is lucky to have such a good teacher
It takes a good tradesman to sort out a bad tradesman’s work, brilliant work there sorting that dodgy plumbers work out, I’m a plumber with 35 years experience and I’ve never left pipe work in that state before👍🏻
'If you're a plumber you might consider putting your pipes into some sort of conduit'
Love your optimism Kirk, dont ever lose it 😂😂
This video should have been posted on the first of April.
Calling this job done by a plumber is an April fools joke.
Top quality work and advice by Kirk
absolutely shocking....
Decorator here. I'd be over the moon walking into that. Nice job
If only RUclips was full of decent videos like this. Not the circus that seems to becoming, sponsored and influenced. Keep up the good work and content.
Your Dad's dead right about leaving it smart for the next guy ..... i went to price up a job after work one day - Big posh property - Electric Gates - Security everywhere - Got let in, knocked the door in my old Plastery Clothes, Long Unkempt Hair, looking like a bit of a Homeless Hobo .... The lady who answered the door was visibly SHOCKED! ... She said; "Well now You're here, you'd better come in I suppose" ... The vibes couldn't have been more negative .... Anyway, i got the job because they were desperate! to get it ready for the painter ... I finished it (A Bathroom) got paid and thought I was lucky to get out with that!! ..... Next week, She phones me out of the blue, full of praise because her Painter had told her it was the best plaster finish he'd ever painted over ...... She kept me there, going back every few weeks to do more & more work for Her ... Whether it needed doing or NOT! 😂😂 ... So YES!! - The Moral of the story?? ... Keep it tidy, keep it clean, keep it GOOD! 👍🤠
Nobody asked pal
@@Cruioooi78I asked, no one asked for your negative input. 😮 nice one Peter! ❤
@@CEO786 i dont think so pal , move on its Sunday
@@Cruioooi78who are ya
@@unknownt7648I’ll tell you who he is….a right plonker with nothing good to say.
Hello Kirk
I'm a time served Plumber with 51yrs experience and my Dad was a Plasterer. If I left pipework like that my life wouldn't be worth living. Just pure laziness and couldn't care less attitude.
It is probably functional but just crap work.
Plastic has such a high coefficient of expansion! What was he thinking!! Also you can't find it with the stud finder if you wanted to screw into the wall.
Anyways you managed to save the job, looked like the customer was thankful😂
There are many useful tips here about the correct choice of materials - thank you for your detailed explanations as you went along.
I was shocked by the clumsy and lazy way the plumber had installed the flexible piping below the radiator - I'd never allow that in MY house!
That was a Friday afternoon job!!! Plumber could smell the Weatherspoons beer mats 😅😅
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Great video I always run 15 mm copper or other heating pipes in 20 mm pvc conduit you can then plaster straight over, never cracks after. You can also fit the conduit after the pioes are installed by cutting a line on one side and pressing over the pipes.
Great workmanship and the fact your being political against the shit work you been left with is a great way to be. Instead of complaining and moaning your giving advice and finding solutions. Love it
Maybe worth waiting till the person paints those patches and then show them in the video at the end. That way we can see how much of a neat job you have done. Excellent work, looks like tough graft but very rewarding.
36:25 Always think about the others coming in after you ! i was taught that from an old Joiner when i was 17 i said that will do and he went off it with me !! lesson learned from a young age and he was 100% spot on! keep up the good work 👍
That plumbing is utter shit, how has the customer accepted that?
I'm no plumber, I have got to agree what a sh*t job that Cowboy has done with that pipe work
Little things wrong make a big difference
Those push fit fittings shouldn't be in a wall to start with, then wrap the pipes in hessian lagging, I'm a plumber by the way, shit job from the plumber, not to mention the boiler flue
Terrible plumbing no fittings allowed inside the wall its that basic
@@tonykyle5229exactly never bury a pushfit
being plastering 10 plus years and I'm still learning new skills , kirk i take my hat off to you your a credit to all plasterers I've learnt new skills watching your videos thank you 👍👍👍
I know the money wouldn't be the same, but you'd make a very good plastering college teacher, Kirk.
You can see you have a passion for it, I went to college for a different trade and I had an old teacher there Mr. Morris who was brilliant with us. He cared so much we didn't fall behind on our course that he even came in when he was really sick bless him!
Jesus that plumber who did the chase at the start is a cowboy. Using push fit is only ok when you can get to them when they leak, burying them in a wall you’re stuffed. Plastering over copper is also terrible as well as there is a risk that the plaster could attack the copper or solder. You’re spot on with the conduit, allowing for expansion is exactly right.
wow that pipework was shocking
Proper
You skills are tremendous and your a brilliant plasterer without doubt.
The plumber should be ashamed of themselves. Horrendous work by them.
You'll fix it big man. Don't doubt it!!!!
Nice work and some great tips. I think a lot of DIY plasterers get put off by starting out with a patch job, not realizing that it's one of the most difficult jobs to do and get a good result. Whole walls are much easier, but I'd recommend anyone's first attempt to be a small ceiling like a WC. Ceilings are easy, because the plaster doesn't fall off the trowel when you work into the edges. That's all kind of counter intuitive.
Definitely counterintuitive mate. I wouldn’t recommend a ceiling for a learning experience. A pantry wall or airing cupboard back wall would be my shout. Even if you don’t need to do it. Very easy to replaster if you mess up.
Thanks for sharing that mate, im a plumber and tiler but ive never understood plasterers. For my money one of the hardest jobs in the trade so lots of respect. Very diplomatic too, id never have left those pipes like that but your solution was brilliant. Also good to see another Northern lad on the tube, no offence to lads from darn sarf but i often think everone imagines all builders are bald cockneys lol. Cheers brother.
Another ace job Kirk! Its always a complete pleasure watching a master at work! Thank you!
Shoddy plumbing job there
Hi mate. Don’t know if you’ll see this but I’ve done 2 artex ceilings over the Easter weekend having never plastered before. Your videos have been brilliant to give me the confidence (which is most important) to tackle it.
I need a bit of caulking around the edges but other than that I’m well happy with the results and no plasterer would do the job anyway as it was too little work.
If only plasterers in my area were like you. Very tidy work mate.
Hi Thanks for a very good and straightforward video ,your work is first class and magic .From an old decorator ,who does small plastering projects and would like to be as skilled as you .Regards Chris 👍😁
Thank you so much for this video. I have plasterer arriving in a few days after the electrician have done their thing. I was worried they would see the pipes and say I would have to get the plumbers back out to redo.
Ive 35 years of plastering Kirk ,fill in ,bed scrim in it used to be (hesian or cotton ) lol ,ive never had any come backs 👍
Shocking work
What I recommend is calling a decent plumber getting him to do his job properly then come in and skim up 👌
You made that look so easy. Massive respect, skill mixed with experience. Great video thanks.
What a lash up from the plumber rad should of come off and left with tails to the rad valves!! Pony work from the plumber and I’m a bricklayer!!
Another cracking job.well done kirk
That pipework looks shocking stuck out the wall. Nice job Kirk. 👍Regards, Dave
If going to have pipework stick out the wall at least put it in an electrical box with blanking plate and drill holes out for pipes shocking pipework that
You're a smart man that thinks about his work at his expense? Do the best job at all costs
Amazing video Kirk. Just learnt even more. Thanks.❤
At least you work with other trades plumbers electricians not against them. So nice to see x
I'm glad somebody else uses Easyfix foam. I don't feel like as much as a Cowboy.
Great video Kirk, very helpful- thanks!
So many great tips, but that tip of marking the around the already cut plasterboard and then cutting the hole is great. Could've used that many times in the past.
Beautifully described. Your apprentice will learn the right way to do things
Fantastic as always Kirk
You are a true professional, amazing!
Brilliant information and great to see how you fix the bits we never see..
The days when one trade left everything neat n tidy for the next are long gone.
Sadly we live in a fast paced what it done now society,allowing those void of interity earn a wage with minimal effort.
Nice to see someone with pride in their work.
brilliant work pleasure to watch
That pipework is shocking
The plumber must be smoking the pipe first
Top job m8 … I was a Artexer and if you come to a pattern is on thick scrape it off and apply SBR leave for 24 hrs and you can apply your plaster and your never ever a problem if you use pva you still have to wait 24hrs for applying your plaster, if you do this artex won’t remove from the ceiling or walls this is only if you have to scrape back Artex ❤ love your channel 🙏🏽
Great.
I love seeing attention to detail on a job…
Pure craftsmanship
These yt videos are so important to show us, good people are in the labour trades. Uploader can't go do a poor job now either with this reference video.😅
Your videos are priceless 👏Thank you 🙏
You are a very good plaster mate, credit where due.
Lovely job Kirk
How turning up to that plumbing work did not make u angry i dont know, but then i made it looks so easy when fixing it, legend
Lovely work mate
I literally thought of using spray foam a few months ago and did my channels with that. I also added stainless mesh over the barrier pipe so the plaster has added strength from the mesh. It also means the pipes should show up on detectors so no one sticks a nail through them. Gutted I wasn't the first to think of the foam though 😢
Brilliant.. very neat. Great tips.
Brilliant work mate . I only wish I could get the mix right when plastering.
I done a bit o diy plastering recently and found myself saying in my mind "take a little bit,go in neat" lol
Top class mate nice clean work it's Really hard to patch up and it be dead on
Brilliant work mate
Nice one very helpful, thank you
Nice job . I know loads of plasterers that can't patch . Its completely different to skimming walls . Decorator will have no bother with them patches .
quality job lads.
They’ve gone to all that effort to have hidden pipes, then left it looking dog poo under the radiator!
Nice job.
I use TRIM TEX reinforced tape - resists cracking like no other. Costs a little more but there's none better.
Great videos mate !
good job, l always use a damp sponge for cleaning down with clean water, l also have 4in skrim which covers better l think, anyway fine job they can be a pain.
Great job again mate 🧱👌
great job
that 'plumber' has had an absolute shocker mate
Lovely job of plastering to the house owner do his own plumbing
When I saw the thumbnail I knew the comments section was going to be gold!
Kirk might be an idea for the kids tshirt "lil plasterer in the mix" 😊 Great work!
Good video and info like your style .. keep it up
Good post learned a few good tips 🎯✅😁🧐
Excellent
I've used sbr and you definitely get flashing with it kirk
Did you use itbover paint or over bare plaster mate?
I always use expanding foam for these, then easifill 20 and promix to finish
Great video. How do you fix a wall that’s got pipes, been plastered and is cracking? I was thinking tape and join to cover the cracks.
Great, April half term break trip booked and nothing but rain still. The only hope is that it will just drizzle occasionally.
Yes kirk i have pipes in same situation and thats just confirmed what i was going to 👍i wzs going lag pipes and bond it and skim. And i got a good plumber in 😂
Kirk does emulsion water based paint cover any excess SBR being most water based does not like covering PVA.. cheers bud 👍
I just did a patch job on ceiling around some drop down pipes where the plumber broke a chunk of plaster off.
I wrapped them with some rubber from a bike tyre, patched right up to rubber and ended up with decent circular gap around each pipe after removing rubber.
So many helpful tips here, nice one. Do you have any recommendations for trowels?
That flue is pissed and requires a clip on it! Cowboy gas engineer.
Damn - this guy is good
Another gem! Btw what's the plastic gear you cover the floor with to prevent spills and thrills?
I tend to nic into to brick 8mm if it’s. Quick fit coupling cover it with think bit of plastic bag or newspaper as a barrier. Then hard all the plaster over. I’ve done this method multiple times and no cracks. I do tend to find it does crack when you have damp heat then cool and contract and crack is plaster.
Lovely neat job kirk, but my god, that plumbing work was rough. But you left a fantastic neat job ready for painting for a very kind decent customer 👍. Where are those spatulas from, they'd be dead handy, ive used old credit type cards in the past but they've got a bit more reach.
Atb kirk 🙂
Galvanised metal banding is brilliant for holding cable / pipes / conduit in place in chases
you done a good job, I always say plumbers should never touch cables...but your plumber should neither touch pipes 😂
Good work. I wouldn't call that plumbing though.....