Efficiency Or Performance? Lexus Finally Offers A Choice | 2023 RX 350h & 500h First Drive
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- The first two of three RX hybrids represent Lexus' new hybrid mission: have a model for MPG focused shoppers and offer something to folks looking for a bit more oomph in their luxury CUV. The 350h will net careful shoppers nearly 40 MPG on average while the RX 500h is the fastest RX ever built. And it'll still get you 27 MPG. Now, fastest RX isn't quite the same as "fastest X5"...
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As a buyer of a 500h, I can say I would not have considered a lesser trim. I hope Lexus makes an actual F, but for now I’m enjoying my 500h, it’s a nice balance of everything and finally it has a little excitement for buyers like me.
Everything except performance... the engine is still pretty weak. I mean 5.9 second 0-60 is like an Accord with a V6, can't really call it performance oriented can you? Look at competition performances, all mid/high tiers will leave the RX 500h in dust.
With that said, yes, Lexus is going to be most reliable, no questions asked. Not hating on Lexus at all, just laying out the facts
The 500h is the one to get... if it wasn't so darn expensive.
My guess is the 350h will become the volume seller. I bought my 1st hybrid about 2 years ago and it's just a very relaxing enjoyable experience to have the engine off while coasting, braking, and especially while stopped and the AC keeps going. Plus, like Alex said you don't have to do anything different, no plugging in, just pay less per fill up. I also like the idea of the 500h that trades efficiency for performance, but I'd get the 350h in red ❤❤
I owned a 2013 Prius for 170,000 miles. I love how the hybrid system works.I sold it when I retired to get down to 2 vehicles.
I agree the 350h should be the best seller but today's supply chain issues make accurate predictions difficult.
@@rightlanehog3151 exactly, ordered mines and shall wait around 9 month or even longer here in Australia.
Alex, With the V6 gone it seems to me the RX 350h will be the most 'traditional' and popular RX of the bunch. With a naturally aspirated engine, proven nickel metal hydride battery and a spare tire the 350h is like gourmet caliber comfort food. In a world full of unpleasant surprises, many Lexus buyers will be looking for soothing familiarity. I think the Canadian assembly workers putting it together will be kept busy😉
Yeah I am waiting for the new RX350H price so I can compare it with the NX350H. Most likely the price difference of at least $10K+ will sway my wife to go with the smaller NX. Personally I like the bigger RX but my wife likes a smaller SUV.
@@jml9550 why not get her a venza limited instead? It’s cheaper and gets the same mpg
I haven’t driven this new rx, obv lol but the cars are on the same platform and the new nx drives realllly good and feels very sporty. And also looks great imo
@@naveenthemachine valid point. But the wife likes the NX style and interior more. Is it worth the extra $6-8K? My wife thinks so and she is the primary driver.
@@jdmbren13 I test drove the NX Hybrid and think it handles fine. If we have smaller kids we would definitely get the RX. But since our kids are drivers age now, we don’t need a bigger SUV, we will most likely get the NX hybrid. On longer trip, I have a 17 ES350 for that.
My wife drives a 450h… comfortable and reliable. Averages 28mpg overall… she is happy, so I am happy.
FINALLY, No more USELESS 3rd row!!!! We need a more spacious and comfortable 2nd row!!! Not all of us have kids or want kids.
I don't even need much cargo room. I just want more of a 2nd row!!!
plenty of families can use a crossover that only has a 2nd row,
a 3rd row is really only useful if you have more than 2 kids.
for a family of 4 a 2nd row is plenty, but a family of 5 or 6, that's where a 3rd row
is needed. but to your other point, yes that's true not all of us have kids,
but that last part is rare. most people do, but it doesn't always go
that way for people. im 38 with no kids, not that i wouldn't want
any, i just never been with a woman long enough for that to happen.
I've had a few girlfriends over the years, but none of them ever stuck.
at my age now, im perfectly fine without, but during my early 20's
i was trying for that. however that was then this is now,
but i have plenty of other kids in my life, and that's more than enough.
Alex you are just great at what you do. I turn to your channel when I want concise and easy explanation of the complexities of vehicles. Your energy and unique style is fast paced but very informative and I thoroughly enjoy your videos especially without any distractions.
The dilemma you pose in the title of your presentation is exactly what I am currently facing. As I plan to replace my current RX450h I am thinking that I need to get the 450h+ because although I am not a candidate for an all-electric vehicle, I think that might be a good fit for me. I feel that I don't want to give up the power of my current RX450h for the less horsepower 350h , even though I want that fuel efficiency. This is leading me to seriously consider the 500h but am waiting to get more info of the upcoming 450h+.
The 350h will be considerably lighter than your 450h so performance may not drop as much as you expect.
ppp
That "1980's Rose Gold" color is STUNNING (although I'll likely go with white as always! Ha!)! I've been car shopping for over a year looking at Genesis, Lincoln, Audi, Cadillac, Porsche, Infiniti and Acura. There are features in each one I liked, but too many things I didn't. Glad I waited. After watching all the videos on the NEW RX (luxury, comfort, reliability), I'm sold. Thank you for your review!
You should have just gotten a gv80 or MDX and buck up.
@@naveenthemachine Buck up? I didn't like them. Unless you're buying?
@@naveenthemachine buck up? what a stupid comment to say to someone who is buying a car basedf on their own preferences. lmao get a life
Life is so short I encourage you to try a different car color once ☺️
@@LafemmebearMusic Good advice!😊
The intricacies in the grilles are phenomenal in itself
Nothing is carved in stone when it comes to detentions and Specs.
Remember, not every driver wants a stiff sporty ride with a tank-like heavy steering wheel.....as evidenced by the high volume sales of Lexus RX for 20 years, and out sold every hmw X5 generation and Mercedes ML or GLE or Volvo XC90......
Exactly!
@@rightlanehog3151 and that's why Lexus is the #1 selling luxury car brand in the USA with very high resale value.... who the hell wants to drive a bumpy car home after a long and exhausted day of work..... ???? No one. This is why so many doctors drive Lexus.... just stop by your local hospital and look at the reserve parking lot for doctors......you'll see a bunch of Lexus
First impressions seem like Lexus pretty nailed this one. I agree that the 500h should have a non-F Sport model 😊
They will have a 450h plugin so it’s not necessary
X5 45E, more Hp, more TQ, all ev range, and sportier. Completely disagree
Disagree. Doesn’t not look much different than old one as new a design. The interior is exactly like a lower model NX. Nowhere near other brands in terms of luxury.
I’ve ordered the 500h but am having second thoughts as I’m concerned about ride quality vs the 350h which seems to be the sweet spot in the lineup.
Take the smoothness of the 350h and the extra 8-10 mpg.
@@rightlanehog3151 why not save more and get a highlander platinum hybrid instead? Or even a sienna hybrid platinum that has luxury features that are lacking on the RX?
Can you tell me how you have managed to order one? I have not seen a way to do so on the Official Lexus website..
@@Mark-de4hj in person at a local dealership.
@@beansy99 ok thanks!
Thank you for explaining the difference in the batteries tech! 😊
Thank you for spreading some tech knowledge 😂❤
Gorgeous SUVs and quite a range of choices and options! Thank you for the reviews.
Alex, do you have any plans on making a video explaining how planetary powersplit systems work? It seems like a often misunderstood design, since it uses differential action to split engine power between mechanical driving the wheels and power generation.
I think Alex discussed it in his review of the 2015 Toyota Prius iirc. It’s basically the same thing
@@naveenthemachine nice, I’ll check it out.
Another Great A\A Review. When Toyota shifts to EVs, what will the engineers do with their free time? So complex: ICE + Turbo + 3 electric motors + transmission, all working in harmony.
The red one looks gorgeous
I’ve watched a lot of 2023-2024 RX videos and you’re the only one that fully addresses the difference between Li-ion and NiMh for this car 👍 6:59
Any concerns regarding battery longevity due to battery chemistry?
You might think a vehicle at this price point will have LED lamps all around, not Lexus. How dumb!
ALEX! AMAZING REVIEW AS ALWAYS! thank you for clarifying why Lexus decided on a 6 speed and not an 8 speed! thank you for the CLARIFICATION! I was skeptical and upset why they did that, but it makes TOTAL SENSE! Well I had a family member pre-order a Lexus 500H F sport performance in white and red interior! CANNOT WAIT! have a 2013 Rx luxury, the last gen Rx was a total letdown! this Rx is a redemption! was going to get an LX but damn the LX now has 2-3 year wait list and its just a dinosaur etc.. maybe ill get an LX once it's a hybrid
I love iLX too
Goodbye one of the best V6 Toyota has ever made!
the 500h looks way better, but the price isn't really worth the slight hp boost. Still a 4cyl.
Yeah and it still outperforms most of the competition equipped with V6 engines
@@romairoblackstock5100 except the x5 40i, MDX type S, aviator, gv80 3.5T
@@naveenthemachine Exactly. Lexus power is always the weak point... I mean when they have legit performance like LFA then you're looking at supercar prices.
There's nothing that's competitive for Lexus models, it's always a Toyota engine (hence you can even put in regular gas instead of premium).
At least MDX type S uses a special turbo version of their 6 cylinder even if it's not as strong.
"Outperform"... lol what a joke
According to New Lexus RX page from Japan,The New RX HEV comes with a bipolar nickel-hydrogen battery(バイポーラ型ニッケル水素電池), the new one delivers 1.5 times the output from each cell and packs 1.4 times as many cells into the same volume, - effectively doubling the output of the non-bipolar nickel-hydrogen batteries. 😊😊😊
Honestly I don’t know that there’s a good reason to buy the 350. The hybrids are so good.
Nah even the hybrids are a hard sell
Because you can just save the cash and get a highlander hybrid
Price. It must be shocking news to you.
I am waiting for Lexus to announce pricing on the RX350H, then will decide whether my wife will be getting the NX hybrid or the RX hybrid.
Treat yourselves to the RX 350h, the mpg is nearly the same and there is so much more space 😉
@@rightlanehog3151 true. Actually my wife prefers a smaller size SUV like the NX and it is her car after all.
@@jml9550 It bothers me that they made the luxury NX smaller and less practical inside than the simple RAV4 on which it is based.
@@rightlanehog3151 actually I see the logic behind it. Lexus wants to bring the RX up in size/variation/price meanwhile they want to capture the young professionals and empty nesters crowd into their luxury brand SUV. That’s where the NX comes into play. Not everyone needs or wants that RX space. Sure the NX is based on the RAV4 but again some people do want to go to a luxury brand, but no wanting to pay $55-60K nor need/want that RX size.
Unfortunately it looks like the Toyota Corolla crossover on the back and definitely i am passing this. They screwed up just the way they screwed up the 2016 Toyota Prius which was very ugly.
Still interested in the plug in hybrid models. Lexus version of RAV4 prime. Just seems to be more future proof in the event CA government gets their desired $10 a gal gas, it could be more affordable to drive.
We live in So Cal - is this a thing? Is the CA legislature really considering such a thing?
Honestly, expected a better use of interior materials (more leather on the dash, wood trim) at this price point. Also, there's a certain point when a large screen starts looking cheap. This looks a little cheap. Otherwise, a good looking exterior.
It has the worst interior in its class. A Kia telluride Hyundai palisade Mazda CX-9 put it to shame
Nothing cheap looking here at all. Perhaps you just don't know any better?
@@Mark-de4hj look at a cx8 signature and Hyundai palisade calligraphy. Then compare it side by side to the Lexus RX. You’ll know what I’m talking about
I'm surprised the 500h doesn't have torque vectoring. I thought Lexus was hyping up Direct4 AWD since it would take advantage of electric motors for torque vectoring.
Wonder if the F Sport Handling (not in video) is worth the extra price for f sport trim over the 350h? I like the f sport trim look and black wheels. But the 350h seems to be better value but not a sporty look. Any thoughts?
DOES IT STILL REQUIRE PREMIUM FUEL FOR THE 350 HYBRID?
350h recommends premium fuel, but not required
I’m disappointed that they discontinued the V6. It was one the best engines ever made
Hope they fix it
We have a 2021 RX. Unless the lease insensitives are good we'll likely just buy our at the end of the lease. There isn't really much reason to upgrade. It only see 8000 miles per year. A hybrid would never pay off.
Also you have the best V6 engine :)
Aa Really brought home how bad the situation is when the guy at the end expressed gratitude for simply having enough space to stand up inside his shared apartments.
Awesome 😎
I feel like a king 🤴 now in 600 sqf apartment, I could never live in Hong Kong under those conditions 😐. Poor people, the government should change their policies.
yes, agreed
These is,nt good in the sense that it ends up affecting civilians financially in different angles of life
We see complains here and there on social media ,from different people in different parts all around the world
I got the RX 350 😍in copper crest and I love it!
Love the inside of the car but can't get used to the look of the front of the car.
If you look at the 2022 highlander, you would notice this is just an upgraded Trim interior from highlander.
The Highlander drives no where near the way the RX does...I have had one. And the Highlander is hard to see out of the front with the long straight hood.
Main drawback is front struts. Every other premium logo has a wishbone. That alone would have made dramatic difference of planted stable drive in curves and made this a totally different nature . Like Volvo 60
I don’t believe the gv80 has double wishbone fronts does it
Why would anyone worry about extreme performance in a Lexus SUV. People buy Lexus SUVs for practicality and reliability. Even with the performance features, where do you drive a beast like that with all of the traffic most everywhere. Maybe Wyoming.
Thank you!
They need to come out with a plug in PRIME hybrid RX
Has Toyota revised the remote start function to allow you to enter the vehicle when it's been started remotely, without shutting the vehicle off? Assuming of course that you have the FOB with you.
Can use the fob to unlock and start and vice versa without turning the engine off. App for some reason doesn't allow you to both, but you can use the fob to unlock without having to turn the engine off.
Why would Lexus RX 350h have LED turn signals at rear but not at the front?
Most vehicles do that.
The Camry hybrid and later versions of the ES hybrid use li-ion. FYI. Maybe same as rav4 and Highlander too.
I hope they have addressed the vibration coming through steering wheel and accelerator pedal.
If you have that problem in your current vehicle you need to check your alignment and have it fixed.
Great review. Does it require premium gas?
The 350 and 500h require premium. The 350h has premium recommended but not required.
You didn’t mention how tall you are! So that we could check the headroom , my husband is 6’2, so headroom is very important!
Its best to see for yourself at your local Lexus dealership soon
6 1
I'm 6'1, and headroom upfront is good, and in the backseat is good also. Have no issues at all.
if needed 3 row seat vehicle, TX/LX/land cruiser is a better choice
If it had the GM super cruise I’d buy one immediately
If you were cruising in the 350h and listening to music (at a normal volume)...how is the road and engine sound?
You won’t really hear much.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Great! Thank you!
The small, simpler NiMH pack would also have a lot fewer potential points of failure compared to a Li-ion pack
If only Toyota would put the 500h powertrain into the Sienna...
For what reason?
@@romairoblackstock5100 for Power
Alex, I would like to see your Co-host give us a Counter-point, different Models. You have Your Point and Your Co-host (Brian, I think) give Us a Counter-point. Your Videos will be More Enjoying.
Thanks for the feedback
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Alex , You are the boss. Never let your subordinates contradict you in public. 😉
I would purchase the 500h if it came out in Matador red.
IMO, the BMW X5 45e is a better vehicle, and has better performance than the Lexus RX 500h, so unless the Lexus is significantly less, there's not much reason to choose it over the X5 45e.
Reliability.
This driver monitoring blocks some view on the instrument cluster. Is this optional or do all new RX have this system?
If nickel metal hydride battery was logical for regular hybrid, then why does the smaller NX350h uses lithium ion battery instead? Anyone know why?
Hey Alex u didnt mention the torque for the 500H
Does the RX 500h, have the button to turn off the stop engine/start????
That sharply raked rear roof and windshield is not good for cargo capacity. Style before function that doesn’t work for me imho.
It still has the largest cargo room in the class
front bumper/nose is soo ugly, interior quality and implementation doesnt look as par as older generation, its a pass unfortunately for me and i was a but lexus gang/fanboy
Agreed. It’s DOA since the gv80 MDX aviator have destroyed it
My local Lexus dealership is demanding a $15k Market Adjustment making the final price for a 2023 RX350h Luxury over $80k!!!!!!
Then tell them to go pound sand!!
I got my RX500H F-sport performance at list with no markups at all. Bought mine on Thursday night and picked it up Friday morning, and they delivered 10 or so in that time frame, and none had markups over the list. Must be the dealer you went to as the one I used doesn't do them at all. Now, you can only order one as they're all sold before coming in.
Gunna crush the MDX is sales.
Definitely, the new MDX feels so old. It uses an ancient problematic V6 with timing belt.
It always has crushed the MDX. The Lexus RX is the best selling luxury vehicle in America. Period
Incandescent front turn signals on the rx350h? Wtf
outside keeps getting bigger, usable space inside keeps getting smaller.
Does the 350h has same engine/hybrid system like Sienna and Highlander?
Yes, but it's retuned to fit the Lexus Driving Signature
Essentially yes although there are very minor tweaks here and there
@@romairoblackstock5100 yeah except the fact that Lexus driving signature is not real. It’s a phony facade.
It’s virtually nonexistent marketing overhype
We can see right through Lexus’s atrocious marketing
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Is it the electrical engine part same as RAV4 Hybrid or Highlander Hybrid?
LCD displays on Toyota and Lexus are dimmer compared to Subaru and max setting ... on a bright summer or snow covered sunny days, it's almost barely readable, I'm not looking for speeding tickets.
I have no issues with the displays on my RX500H.
"Even the availability of a plug, if you so desire."
Well, that's an incorrect statement right off the bat. Like the NX450h+, it'll only be available in the handful of zev states. So, the vast majority of people who would desire the phev will not have access to it. I really wish all these reviewers would mention this fact when talking about any phev that has that restriction.
Lexus has stated that it will be limited at first, but availability will expand to all states when supplies ease.
I guessing there’s a lot of speaker noise? Sounds like it
What the heck is going on with those ugly front ends. Does anybody care how long it will take to clean that mesh grill?
It also allows bugs to jam up into the radiator. What are they thinking???
Seats are still terrible. Got the previous RX F-Sport and seats are the worst item in the whole car.
There goes reliability
Soon it’ll be “there goes Lexus”
Hybrids are more reliable. The V6 in a transverse configuration is a maintenance nightmare. Good riddance.
@@naveenthemachine There goes the Lexus hater.
What, Lexus has been making hybrids for decades so they are bulletproof. What I am a bit doubtful of is the turbocharged engine in the RX350. To be on the safer side just pick the RX350h
@@romairoblackstock5100 It’s an unstressed turbo engine. It’s like 265-275 HP out of a 2.4 liter. It will be bulletproof just like the old turbo 4 in the NX.
I’d love to see an utilitarian unibody series of vehicles from Toyota/Lexus.
Something that competes with Forester, Passport and Defender.
Toyota's body on frame 4X4s sell so well I wonder how motivated they are to beef up their unibody to match the Defender etc.
@@rightlanehog3151
I agree.
Toyota do not care about that "niche" of the market.
Does the cargo with rear seats folded go totally flat and does the second row seat slide fore and aft?
rear seats don't fold completely flat. As for your 2nd question, i think the answer is no, but not sure.
I have the power rear seat option, and they do not slide in either direction. Didn't check when looking at the non rear power seat optioned one.
im a rx350 owner but i will lexus should be dead if they stop innovating.
Well they are already dead like infiniti. Idk why they still continue to bother since they cannot compete anymore.
@naveenthemachine RX is the best-selling luxury SUV, lol.
246hp is a lot more than my pathetic 180hp outlander.
I thought Toyota had a new more efficient hybrid system that will go in the Crown. Did Lexus miss out on this?
Contrary to all the keyboard warriors, I think the new RX looks really good, I like the grille and I think the interior looks really good in white and red
Not every buyer want a driver's SUV with bumpy ride for curving canyons
True that.
But the problem is that every other suv in the class can carve canyons much better. Some of the very soft options can carve canyons better than the F performance RX
Take the X5 w the air suspension or aviator w air suspension or type S w air suspension. Those are much softer more comfortable yet they can simultaneously carve canyons way better
I like the grill on the cheaper Lexus
performance models do not have performance at all.
Ikr
For reference the “performance” RX has the same performance as a Toyota Camry v6
These models seem underwhelming re-freshes rather than full on new model. With the F-sport model, you lose a lot of economy for not a huge bump in power. and the front end is absolutely hideous!
0-60 in 7.4? with all that dated tech remix and still? even for a budget premium brand it is still not acceptable. so basicly the Jpanese does not have the Turbo technology like the germans and doesn't have the Electric car technology like the Americans and the Chinese.
Is the Toyota hybrid cable fiasco fixed or just patched ?
It’s been fixed
Was going to trade my 450h but the 6 speed was the deal killer. Love the cvt in my 450.
Not sure what is going on in the Toyota design department, but good grief they are pumping out some shockingly ugly cars. All the weird bulges and fake vents are so tacky, and they’ve somehow managed to make the spindle grill look even worse.
NiMh batteries have substantially less power output ability than a lithium battery, even if they have the same energy capacity. Given the small size and nimh chemistry of these batteries, they aren’t going to be able to send too much actual HP to the rear motor unless they really run the ICE and under hood motor/generator to generate the electricity to do so, but that’s a pretty inefficient way to send power to the rear wheels.
Not every Toyota is ugly. The LC is500 RC F GX460 or even a Camry XSE those look really sharp 🤩
450 what’s the difference?
Why is it more expensive than a v6 ?
I dont think there many who buy Lexus for performance. Lexus has ceded it niche as the bargain luxury maker to Genesis.
Except they lost to genesis badly and I mean very badly. Just like infiniti badly lost to genesis
Genesis now does performance AND comfort better
Just curious, what's the purpose of that bulging forehead of the car? Aero?
Crash Protection.
Only Toyota could manage to turn 366 hp AWD into a 5.9s 60 run my 290 hp stock 2012 Nissan Maxima that cost less than half as much would smoke (5.8s). Jeesh. Sounds like the 340 hp Crown (which uses a similar drivetrain) is about to be a 6.1 second car. That's insanely BAD performance for the power.
My Toyota Camry v6 has the exact same performance as the fastest RX and fastest nx and also the crown platinum hybrid max
@@naveenthemachine Yeah ironically the 3.5L V6 Camry along with the Supra are Toyota's only cars that are performance competitive in their class. Also I do believe the Camry is now that the last NA V6 left in its class
@@JudahRichardson1 well the supras a bmw so it doesn’t count. So far only the v6 Camry and the rav4 prime are Toyotas performance cars
That 0,1 seconds must be the most important thing ever to a Lexus buyer. You're very sharp.
Compared to the Midsize Premium SUV segment, Lexus owners are more often women, are older, and enjoy a lower median annual household income. J.D. Power data shows that 42% of Lexus RX owners are female (vs. 38% for the segment), that their median age is 65 (vs. 58 for the segment), and that their median annual household income is $155,303 (vs. $184,248 for the segment).
One could argue that women are generally smarter than most men? lol Although, from your provided info, it does seem like men are just as smart since more than half own an RX? Additionally, most young people, generally speaking, just aren't able to afford luxury vehicles so no real insight there.
But still trying to figure out your motive in presenting this so apart from being a misogynist, I'm just gonna guess it's just small dk syndrome?
@@Mark-de4hj ...and this was 2017 data. I just see elderly driving couple year old versions would be around $50K or less. This new one starts at $50K and could bump $80K!
Sad this is not their EV when Cadillac Lyriq starts at $59K.
@@normt430 Lexus has NOT released any pricing data so not interested in your speculation but your "seeing elderly people" sound very scientific! I see people driving around in their vehicles too and I go "he must have a small dk!
My advice to you, go get the Cadillac!
@@Mark-de4hj Motoman on RUclips speculative pricing. As he goes over price options on every review.
@Mark Bought the RX500H F-Sport, and everyone looking at and buying the new RX'S from those I saw were under 60, and I'm 47. RX was originally marketed to people in their 60s, but now they're not. Most people I see driving Cadillacs are all over 60, and those who are not have Escalades.
Having watched a few different RX videos before and after getting mine. Norm T has posted the same comment along with some other guy making negative comments about Lexus. The other guy claims Genesis is more reliable and better equipped. Also claims his 5 year old Camry is more powerful than my RX500H, hahaha!!
21 inch wheels are so ridiculous and the 19 in somehow look terrible
Incandescent turns signals on a lexus? Cheap
I am not a big fan
Discontinued v6 engine. Removed the exhaust tips.
No longer attractive.
Besides the 350h, the rest of the trim is just extra.
I been driving all those modern cars with those teeny tiny engines turbocharged to maximum with those infinity gears transmission and the all are insanely horrible and unpleasant. Maybe on paper they beat the old big engine engineering but in terms of comfort they far far beyond. Constant gear changing with slightest touch of the gas pedal they shuffling gears back and forth back and forth. I recent got 2002 Grand Cherokee 4.7 with only FOUR gear transmission and honestly this is HEAVEN power all the time under my foot, no gear changing always there. Yes, yes i know fuel economy this and that and i AGREE but AGAIN in terms of comfort you CAN NOT beat that! Lexus was the only one with their amazing 3.5L V6 and look what they done too. Lousy 4 CYLINDER woow. Back nin the days you were buing lexury car for their LUXURY and PERFORMANCE now i honestly don't know what distinguishes LUXURY brand from top trim for example hudna. Those basic brands have performance same or better.
You can always get the GX460 with its old school v8 and body on frame that is great for off-road driving. Full-time 4wd and a real 6 speed. My plan was to get a 2023 GX460, but due to a car accident and being a double amputee, RX was a better and more practical option for me. Would love if they still used V6's over turbocharged I4s, but the governments of the world made it hard to do so. The GX will be the last V8 from Toyota/Lexus sadly as they go to a turbocharged V6 like in the Sequoia and new 4Runner. They wanted 8k more for a Grand Cherokee 4xe with similar trim to my RX500H F-sport performance. Plus, most dealers wanted a markup on Grand Cherokee hybrids, and that equaled to 10k to 12k more after taxes. That isn't even feasible to me but is to a lot other buyers and don't mind that massive depreciation 2 feet after pulling off the lot.
Agreed. Heaven for me was my 1980s Mercedes 560 SEC. Beautiful to look at; beautiful to drive. And silly tech clutter.
Cheapy interiors, especially on the f sports
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@@8xus_1 they need to step it up
@@Phil-D83 Compare it to LR, they do have a lot more of those quietly useless features, but lexus feels more luxury
@8xustech value for the difference in money
No V6,No LEXUS!!!