I am going to thumb this down on this as its "half" the story. PC's are not "just" a gaming console so the two are not directly comparable $$. You tend to find most gaming PC's are also used for productivity and or study etc. If you buy a console, chances are you need a non gaming PC as well for like editing RUclips videos :P. Point being when you buy a PC you get two devices, when you buy a consoles its just a gaming console. Lastly PC has VASTLY more variety in games where you don't have to buy a monthly subscription $$ like Xbox Gold , and games tend to be cheaper on PC. Consoles are not as cheap as you think once you factory in the "Total cost of ownership" over a 5 year period vs a PC.
I mentioned this towards the end of the video as it's a use case that will define which to go for. On a PC, it comes down to what their use case is and what will make the most sense in their situation. It's a common enough question that many don't know the differences or why to go with one over the other. To your point, I guarantee my Series X's cost of ownership over 5 years will be vastly less than my Maingear PC that ran me $5300. But, It really depends on what it's being compared to, but I hear what you're saying and agree that's there's way more options on PC.
I was shocked when I saw that a channel has less than 7,000 subscribers and a video of less than 2,000 haha The content you provide deserves a lot more Greetings to you from the continent of Africa, specifically from Algeria
Good video. There's a lot of reasons to buy either or, typically gaming PCs are not going to be cheaper but their value is the breadth and width of their libraries (extensive), ability to play many generations, and ROMs. Not to mention the insane modding scene. Hardware wise, it's never more cost effective to go gaming PC especially since the GPU price hike. But that's why PCMR is a niche, it's also the niche that drives graphics and capabilities forward at an alarming rate.
Thanks, I appreciate it There's def a lot more options when going with a gaming PC, but it comes with that premium. All comes down to use cases and whether it's worth it to someone or not.
Its not a good video, PC's are not "just" a gaming console so the two are not directly comparable $$. You tend to find most gaming PC's are also used for productivity and or study etc. If you buy a console, chances are you need a non gaming PC as well for like editing RUclips videos :P. Point being when you buy a PC you get two devices, when you buy a consoles its just a gaming console. Lastly PC has VASTLY more variety in games where you don't have to buy a monthly subscription $$ like Xbox Gold , and games tend to be cheaper on PC. Consoles are not as cheap as you think once you factory in the "Total cost of ownership" over a 5 year period vs a PC.
When comparing only one aspect in relation to each other (gaming) gives a more 1:1 comparison. There are also some base assumptions you're making that are including your own biases which may/may not be true for someone else. In the past, for example, I had both a console and a gaming PC that I ONLY gamed on. I didn't want anything work related and kept it purely gaming oriented. I also recognize that that's not the norm either. It really comes down to use cases and when doing a comparison, keeping it compared to apples to apples. You can't do productivity work on a console so keeping it prioritized to one aspect is important.
@@BusyDadGaming I own a XBSX (not my first Xbox) for the lounge and a high end PC btw, but sure I am a PC gamer. I just feel you are talking up the initial buy-in cost of consoles while ignoring the benefit of "why" someone might want to spend more for a Gaming PC. You did miss the Console monthly subscription charges, so you have to give me that.
The monthly cost of the online play is def something to keep in mind. I'm in the camp where I like having the best I can afford so my PC is high-end and pulling triple duty at this point, lol. For folks on a budget, it just comes down to use case and what makes the most sense for them.
The main reason I gave up using a PC to play games was, I was always “upgrading” it, to keep up with the newer games I was buying. In fact, when I bought my first PC, I told a game store employee all about it and was told, “you’re all set…for at least 6 months.” That and I wanted to see the games on a big screen TV. I just wish some of the games that I was playing back then, could be played on my Xbox. On the other hand, I have a “not so popular” 360 game, that I wish I could play on my Xbox but I’m 99% sure, it’ll never be changed to being backwards compatible.
Yeah, you see that quite often. When I got this most recent PC, I hooked it up to a 55" 4K/120 TV and it was cool, but wasn't very practical for me. For console, many bought an Xbox One and then played it for the entire generation.
My opinion? Its a big no no. If you want s good gaming PC here you have to spend like 1200 euros (equal to 1100 dollars if Im not wrong). You can find some here cheaper yeah but you want a PC that runs call of duty, valorant, or even fortnite at good grafics you have to spend big time here. Even my little cousin who is 14 years old, plays Fortnite a lot, me and my family's had to buy him for Christmas a 5k PC to run Fortnite at 240 fps and with great grafics for him to play smooth and he enjoys a lot and gets to qualify for the cash cups in Fortnite. So yes series s or x all the way if you want a console to play it smooth and be chilling with the person's you love or to have a good time yourself.
Both the Series S and X (even more so the X at this point) are better investments if you're only going to be gaming. If you plan to do more than just play games (or want to play at a much higher level), then you're looking at diminishing returns based on what you plan to do with a PC.
The Series X is a great machine and you won't be even close to a PC build with the same power, same as the Series S. The supply issues just shines an even bigger light on them.
One thing most people forget is not everyone builds a pc some might try to get a GPU but due to current market they have to take a look at a console as well which is one of the most under looked topic
@@BusyDadGaming i remember people tryed to match the xbox x back in 2018 and couldnt then for the price.. I think Microsoft must looss about 100 buck for each seires s sold maybe more
@@andyroo8uk685 - It was at a loss for sure. Because it's custom architecture the manufacturing does get cheaper over time (generally speaking) which is why you'll see revisions over time.
Also imo ryzen 7 3700X and RTX 3050 instead of ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1660 should be equal to the series S cuz 1660 is a bit too weak to do 60 fps at 1080p high settings in games like Valhalla unlike series S that can do it or 1080p 120 fps in warzone too while 1660 can't
Good points and I agree mostly aside from I was focusing more on the price than the performance. That and eliminate any throughout bottlenecks. A 3700x would have been bottlenecked by the GPU.
I have a small question There are rumors that around 2024 or late 2023 an improved Xbox Series S will be released With a disk reader and storage optimization In your opinion, will this improved device be launched at the same price as the current Series S, which is $300? With a reduction in the price of the old version Or will it be launched at a higher price, around $350?
I could see a possible refresh with possibly more storage and voltage bumps on the CPU and GPU, but I highly doubt you'll see a Series S with a disc option. Assuming market conditions get back to a more normal sense, the component prices would have to decrease by at least $100 for the Series S to stay at it's $300 price tag and have more storage and a disc tray. I just don't see that happening unless MS wants to take a decent loss on the console. There are several keys that would need to take place for the Series S to have additional items. One is inflation, right now it costs more to source and manufacture a Series S. Then you have current market conditions that would need to clear up (which also contributes to higher prices for raw materials and manufacturing). And lasty, you'll need fabrication methods to improve to allow for the Series S to be made cheaper. That's a lot of items to align for the Series S to have a disc tray in that time frame.
@@BusyDadGaming thank u for replying mate... I think that even if they don't add a disc reader And they only improved the storage space and added 2 terafloops to become 6tf These improvements will certainly lead to raising the price to approximately at least 350 dollars, and in this case people will prefer to add a small amount of money and go to the ps5 digital edition (If it is available in the market) If the improvements will lead to an increase in the price of the device, it will lose a large part of its sales and become useless
I do see them increasing the storage on the next go-around. I don't see them increasing the GPU power by that much. A voltage bump may get you .1-.5 more out of the console, but that would really be about it at this point. If the Series S did increase in price, it would lose that appeal and then it would be going up against the digital PS5.
Are you going with a Series S or a gaming PC?
I am going to thumb this down on this as its "half" the story. PC's are not "just" a gaming console so the two are not directly comparable $$. You tend to find most gaming PC's are also used for productivity and or study etc. If you buy a console, chances are you need a non gaming PC as well for like editing RUclips videos :P. Point being when you buy a PC you get two devices, when you buy a consoles its just a gaming console. Lastly PC has VASTLY more variety in games where you don't have to buy a monthly subscription $$ like Xbox Gold , and games tend to be cheaper on PC. Consoles are not as cheap as you think once you factory in the "Total cost of ownership" over a 5 year period vs a PC.
I mentioned this towards the end of the video as it's a use case that will define which to go for. On a PC, it comes down to what their use case is and what will make the most sense in their situation. It's a common enough question that many don't know the differences or why to go with one over the other.
To your point, I guarantee my Series X's cost of ownership over 5 years will be vastly less than my Maingear PC that ran me $5300. But, It really depends on what it's being compared to, but I hear what you're saying and agree that's there's way more options on PC.
I was shocked when I saw that a channel has less than 7,000 subscribers and a video of less than 2,000 haha
The content you provide deserves a lot more
Greetings to you from the continent of Africa, specifically from Algeria
Thanks, greatly appreciated and thanks for watching!
thx for the video 😀 love my series s
Thanks! I appreciate it and thanks for watching!
Great video did you add the operating system?
Not into the hardware price, but it def adds even more on top.
Really good video
Thanks, greatly appreciated and thanks for watching!
Unlikely to be playing your PC on your living room TV so need to add a monitor into this
I've seen many use a smaller 4k TVs to play on their PCs. Just depends on your use case, but I kept panels out of it to keep it 1:1.
Good video. There's a lot of reasons to buy either or, typically gaming PCs are not going to be cheaper but their value is the breadth and width of their libraries (extensive), ability to play many generations, and ROMs. Not to mention the insane modding scene.
Hardware wise, it's never more cost effective to go gaming PC especially since the GPU price hike. But that's why PCMR is a niche, it's also the niche that drives graphics and capabilities forward at an alarming rate.
Thanks, I appreciate it There's def a lot more options when going with a gaming PC, but it comes with that premium. All comes down to use cases and whether it's worth it to someone or not.
Its not a good video, PC's are not "just" a gaming console so the two are not directly comparable $$. You tend to find most gaming PC's are also used for productivity and or study etc. If you buy a console, chances are you need a non gaming PC as well for like editing RUclips videos :P. Point being when you buy a PC you get two devices, when you buy a consoles its just a gaming console. Lastly PC has VASTLY more variety in games where you don't have to buy a monthly subscription $$ like Xbox Gold , and games tend to be cheaper on PC. Consoles are not as cheap as you think once you factory in the "Total cost of ownership" over a 5 year period vs a PC.
When comparing only one aspect in relation to each other (gaming) gives a more 1:1 comparison. There are also some base assumptions you're making that are including your own biases which may/may not be true for someone else. In the past, for example, I had both a console and a gaming PC that I ONLY gamed on. I didn't want anything work related and kept it purely gaming oriented. I also recognize that that's not the norm either. It really comes down to use cases and when doing a comparison, keeping it compared to apples to apples. You can't do productivity work on a console so keeping it prioritized to one aspect is important.
@@BusyDadGaming I own a XBSX (not my first Xbox) for the lounge and a high end PC btw, but sure I am a PC gamer. I just feel you are talking up the initial buy-in cost of consoles while ignoring the benefit of "why" someone might want to spend more for a Gaming PC. You did miss the Console monthly subscription charges, so you have to give me that.
The monthly cost of the online play is def something to keep in mind. I'm in the camp where I like having the best I can afford so my PC is high-end and pulling triple duty at this point, lol. For folks on a budget, it just comes down to use case and what makes the most sense for them.
I Loved my Xbox Series s and my 4k Monitor Uhd Samsung
Awesome, I'm glad you're enjoying it!
The main reason I gave up using a PC to play games was, I was always “upgrading” it, to keep up with the newer games I was buying. In fact, when I bought my first PC, I told a game store employee all about it and was told, “you’re all set…for at least 6 months.” That and I wanted to see the games on a big screen TV. I just wish some of the games that I was playing back then, could be played on my Xbox. On the other hand, I have a “not so popular” 360 game, that I wish I could play on my Xbox but I’m 99% sure, it’ll never be changed to being backwards compatible.
Yeah, you see that quite often. When I got this most recent PC, I hooked it up to a 55" 4K/120 TV and it was cool, but wasn't very practical for me. For console, many bought an Xbox One and then played it for the entire generation.
My opinion? Its a big no no.
If you want s good gaming PC here you have to spend like 1200 euros (equal to 1100 dollars if Im not wrong). You can find some here cheaper yeah but you want a PC that runs call of duty, valorant, or even fortnite at good grafics you have to spend big time here.
Even my little cousin who is 14 years old, plays Fortnite a lot, me and my family's had to buy him for Christmas a 5k PC to run Fortnite at 240 fps and with great grafics for him to play smooth and he enjoys a lot and gets to qualify for the cash cups in Fortnite.
So yes series s or x all the way if you want a console to play it smooth and be chilling with the person's you love or to have a good time yourself.
Both the Series S and X (even more so the X at this point) are better investments if you're only going to be gaming. If you plan to do more than just play games (or want to play at a much higher level), then you're looking at diminishing returns based on what you plan to do with a PC.
NEVER EVER GO WITH A DELL if your think your a gamer 7:23
Agreed, never do a Dell. Ever. For any reason. Lol
I've spent over $300 on a single graphics card. The series s has never been on my radar. I was happy to get the series X last year.
I'm picking it up this week or next week for my kid even with 2 years of game pass still an amazing deal Microsoft really hit a home run with this one
The Series X is a great machine and you won't be even close to a PC build with the same power, same as the Series S. The supply issues just shines an even bigger light on them.
One thing most people forget is not everyone builds a pc some might try to get a GPU but due to current market they have to take a look at a console as well which is one of the most under looked topic
Agreed and that's a good point. I got my 3080 as part of a build, but even a Series X is cheaper than most GPUs right now.
In uk the series s is 249 pound but a ryzen 3600 is like 150uk at market there is no way for the price you cant its just impossible to.....
Yeah, with GPU prices where they are, it's not even remotely possible to get the same performance.
@@BusyDadGaming i remember people tryed to match the xbox x back in 2018 and couldnt then for the price.. I think Microsoft must looss about 100 buck for each seires s sold maybe more
@@andyroo8uk685 - It was at a loss for sure. Because it's custom architecture the manufacturing does get cheaper over time (generally speaking) which is why you'll see revisions over time.
Sometimes it's hard to believe such a tiny console could pack such a big punch.
For sure and for the price, it’s really hard to beat.
@@BusyDadGaming oh and I almost forgot GO DODGERS!!!!!
Lol, go Giants!
This is an easy question to answer, NO. LOL.... We all already know this though.
A lot of people have asked this question so wanted to make sure to break it down.
Also imo ryzen 7 3700X and RTX 3050 instead of ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1660 should be equal to the series S cuz 1660 is a bit too weak to do 60 fps at 1080p high settings in games like Valhalla unlike series S that can do it or 1080p 120 fps in warzone too while 1660 can't
Good points and I agree mostly aside from I was focusing more on the price than the performance. That and eliminate any throughout bottlenecks. A 3700x would have been bottlenecked by the GPU.
I have a small question
There are rumors that around 2024 or late 2023 an improved Xbox Series S will be released
With a disk reader and storage optimization
In your opinion, will this improved device be launched at the same price as the current Series S, which is $300? With a reduction in the price of the old version
Or will it be launched at a higher price, around $350?
I could see a possible refresh with possibly more storage and voltage bumps on the CPU and GPU, but I highly doubt you'll see a Series S with a disc option. Assuming market conditions get back to a more normal sense, the component prices would have to decrease by at least $100 for the Series S to stay at it's $300 price tag and have more storage and a disc tray. I just don't see that happening unless MS wants to take a decent loss on the console.
There are several keys that would need to take place for the Series S to have additional items. One is inflation, right now it costs more to source and manufacture a Series S. Then you have current market conditions that would need to clear up (which also contributes to higher prices for raw materials and manufacturing). And lasty, you'll need fabrication methods to improve to allow for the Series S to be made cheaper. That's a lot of items to align for the Series S to have a disc tray in that time frame.
@@BusyDadGaming thank u for replying mate... I think that even if they don't add a disc reader
And they only improved the storage space and added 2 terafloops to become 6tf
These improvements will certainly lead to raising the price to approximately at least 350 dollars, and in this case people will prefer to add a small amount of money and go to the ps5 digital edition (If it is available in the market)
If the improvements will lead to an increase in the price of the device, it will lose a large part of its sales and become useless
I do see them increasing the storage on the next go-around. I don't see them increasing the GPU power by that much. A voltage bump may get you .1-.5 more out of the console, but that would really be about it at this point. If the Series S did increase in price, it would lose that appeal and then it would be going up against the digital PS5.
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Xbox series SS amazing hardware engineering
Agreed, it's a great piece of hardware and really hard to beat the price.
This video literally shows how impressive the series s is it has more games running at 120 than PS5
I really hope that the PS5 gets up to speed on things.
@@BusyDadGaming the thing about it is Sony is doing as good as they did last gen Microsoft has just taken it to the next level
That's true, Sony is doing what worked in the past. I don't feel that Jim Ryan is the best person to push innovation.
@@BusyDadGaming agreed
first ^_^
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