@@S444nndd he literally led the BRITISH UNION OF FASCISTS. A distinction without a difference. Antisemite , fascist, Nazi. Makes no difference. Good on Cable Street for sticking up to him
@@charlesgrimmer6486 I'm not deaf but I watch videos to listen to the speakers. In this case the vocal track is quieter than the music and sometimes drowns out the words. Not all of us are young and not all of us don't give a damn about others' pleasure. What difference would it make to you with your perfect hearing if the vocal track was the louder one?
The original UVF of 1912 was formed to oppose Home Rule in Ireland. Then World War 1 broke out and the majority of them joined the Army, mostly the 36th Ulster Division.
Aaron Weir funnily enough due the war the Nationalist volunteers and the UVF actually got on...sometimes. In the town of omagh the UVF band played nationalist volunteers off at the train station as they left for France equipped with rifles from unionist stocks
Funnily enough, the actor who plays Jimmy McCraven, Brian Gleeson, is Irish and played a character named Jimmy who was an IRA soldier during the 1920s in the Netflix show "Rebellion".
@Teilo Turner I have only started gcse history. Anyway I already know about the BUF however you can't have to much knowledge there must be something we don't know about him
@Chaz Wisdom he was certainly not a bell end he was a charismatic leader and a brilliant economist. He wanted what was best for Britain. Maybe if he was able to gain power Britain would not be in such a bungle today. He was not a far right person he was very left wing even made his own left wing party. He was a fascist yes but not all fascists are Hitler and Mussolini just like not every communist is a Stalin or a Mao
Apologies about the volume levels in this one I'm not sure why my voice keeps getting quieter but I'll have the volume of the music down in the next ones so it shouldn't be an issue. Thanks for watching and understanding everyone!
I think you'll find King Billy didn't come from Ireland. He also didn't originate from Scotland or England. King William III was from the House of Orange, rulers of Netherlands - although Orange is actually a place in France.
You’d wanna research your videos better as a lot of your info especially dates etc are wrong. To be expected when an Englishman tried to cover the history of eire
Personally as a Welshman I think both sides are absolutely pathetic, cue the sheep jokes, I’ll take that over being a sad as fuck catholic or Protestant brainwashed man child
Hullo Hullo We are the Billy boys Hullo Hullo You'll know us by our noise We're up to our knees in Fenian blood Surrender or you'll die For we are the brigedon Billy boys 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🔴⚪️🔵
Well they dare not call us invaders, 'Tis but state rights and liberty we ask; And Missouri, we will ever defend her, No matter how hard may be the task. Then let the Irishmen assemble, Let the voice of Missouri be obeyed; And the northern fanatics will tremble When again they meet Kelly's Irish Brigade
@Caden Jackson That's not nice. You don't know me. I don't hold any of the beliefs my dead family members believe in. I'm just finding out about all this stuff. Show some bloody manners, will you?
Basically, your not far off. It was formed officially on 31st January 1913. Then officially became a Unit who fought in the First World War. See RTE in Google. This guy really has not gotten his facts correct. This particular Vlog should be done again with much more research. If you look, I already left a comment relating to derogatory terms used by both sides. As your probably aware, this is common in so many Countries where religion is being used as a tool. I live in Northern Ireland, fortunately my Mother, despite coming from the Shankill was educated privately in both Primary and Grammar of mixed religions. She was taught Irish History, she always regretted they were not also taught Irish. She won a Bursary to Queens University. At that time only 2 were available in Ireland. Regrettably the War started, my Grandfather joined up in less than a month of that. He was a great reader and thinker, not swayed by what he ought to believe. My Grandmother was a cook in Belfast Castle, working nights. In those days, evening functions and wedding breakfasts. She could not afford all of the paraphernalia required at that time, as obviously, her work was affected. My Mother left school and went to work as there were 5 siblings below her. Not once in her lifetime did she ever voice regrets. Not everyone in these areas was Unionist. My Grandfather for one was Labour, though did not believe in communism. It's a case in this Vlog of, literally, tarring everyone with the same brush. Please either redo this with more research or remove it. This is the type of ill informed information which causes friction. I can assure you, the majority of us living here, UK and Eire have had enough.
You need to do some research into the 36th Ulster Division and the historical UVF of 1911. I know its not easy to understand when you aren't from Ulster but some things you've said are just wrong.
username this is taken from the Wikipedia page. Read further than the title. I was born and live in Belfast, trust me. The Ulster Volunteers was a unionist militia founded in 1912 to block domestic self-government (or Home Rule) for Ireland, which was then part of the United Kingdom. The Ulster Volunteers were based in the northern province of Ulster. Many Ulster Protestants feared being governed by a Catholic-majority parliament in Dublin and losing their local governance and strong links with Great Britain. In 1913, the militias were organised into the *Ulster Volunteer Force* (UVF) and vowed to resist any attempts by the British Government to impose Home Rule on Ulster. Later that year, Irish nationalists formed a rival militia, the Irish Volunteers, to safeguard Home Rule. In April 1914, the UVF smuggled 25,000 rifles into Ulster.
The word 'Fenian' has nothing to do with religion. In actual fact, the founders of the 1860s fenian brotherhood were protestants who disagreed with the British control. The word comes from the ancient Fianna led by the ancient Celtic warrior Fion Maccumhaill (Finn mccool)
Kev The Rev yeah the origin of the word has no religious meaning but you have no idea how many times I’ve been called fenian in the 21st century for being a catholic, walking through a Protestant area
RFC72UB The Fenian Brotherhood in particular was the one organisation that was comprised almost solely of nationalists from a Catholic upbringing, even though it was technically an irreligious organisation. In reality their men were Catholic and the Fenians had a close relationship with the clergy. I'd give it a pass if it was the Young Irelanders or United Irishmen, because their leadership was decidedly Protestant.
"Billy" is a Scots word for friend, buddy or co-worker. That is also where the name "Hillbilly" comes from in the US, from the Ulster-Scots who spoke Scots.
Billy in Scotland is used to mean rangers fans who are considered the Protestants, celtic fans are called Tim’s who are considered the catholics, Billy is used as it comes from William of orange. There’s a show called singin im not a Billy he’s a Tim you should watch it on RUclips.
Celtic's first team was all Scottish except for a few Irish and an Englishmen, both clubs are Scottish but Celtic just signed Catholics and protestants when rangers wouldn't sign Catholics, I'm a Scot through and through my family have been on this land for hundreds of years but I'm a Celtic fan, cause I believe that Celtic were formed for a noble cause, you don't need to be Irish to support Celtic it's a scotch-irish club, when rangers are the scotch-english/British club
THATS MOST AUTISTIC REASON TO SUPPORT A CLUB THATS LIKE IF I WAS TO SUPPORT ONE JAPANESE TEAM CAUSE THEY LIKE A RELIGIOUN UNLIKE THE OTHER JAPANESE TEAM OR A SPANISH TEAM OR GERMAN OR ENGLISH
@@lacuna-d9f I agree wi that, I just struggle to put things into words y'know, and I dont use Ulster Scot, but Celtics main fans are from Scotland and the Republic of Ireland y'know
@@alehlete830 no need to shout lad lmao, and the reason I fell in love with Celtic was how they played when I was a wee man, but it just so happens I agree with Thier beliefs too :)
You really dropped a bollock with this one. Pretty sad as you usually get a lot right. In no particular order: 1. Fenian may be a derogatory term for Catholics but is also used as a term of affirmation for those who support Irish unity/independence - named after The Fenian Brotherhood. Indeed, Celtic fans had a banner at a recent game declaiming themselves as a, 'Fenian Army'. Its usage as a derogatory term for Catholics is recent and debatable. 2. The Orange Order is not limited to Northern Ireland but, like the Irish rugby team, is a whole-island organisation. There are more than 40 Orange Lodges in the ROI. 3. Had Mr Fullerton been called, say, Nigel, would we chant about 'The Brigton Nigel Boys'? Of course not. The Billy Boys were named after William of Orange. 4. Fullerton didn't start a branch of the KKK. He set up a wee club and called it the KKK. It had nothing to do with the American organisation. 5. The UVF was established by Sir Edward Carson in 1912 to resist Home Rule and became a large (more than 30,000 strong?) organisation of trained militia, nurses, communications and logistics experts and would have been formidable had there been any attempt to impose Home Rule on Ulster. At the outbreak of WW1 what was the 36th (Ulster) Division was largely composed of the Ulster Volunteers. Brave men of The UVF, in the form of the 36th Ulster Division, received 8 Victoria Crosses between them as they helped free mainland Europe, including the Low Countries, from German expansionism. I really would have expected better from you and suggest that you take this video down and start again with more respect and more accuracy.
The actual Fenians of the 19th century tended to be anticlerical and were condemned by the Catholic hierarchy. They supported Irish Nationalist leader Parnell against the Church.
My Grandfather was a Billy Boy. At their height in the 1930s they had an active gang membership of 1,000. They also had a Youth Wing called the Derry Boys, with a similar number of fighters (1k). My Grandfather was a close friend of Billy (the King) Fullerton. He could fight 3 hard bastard Glasgow coppers at the one time and win. A real scrapper. The Ulster Volunteer Force (36th Division) were formed by Sir Edward Carson, and they fought at the Battle of the Somme. Out of 5,000 men, only 70 came back home. Their sacrafice will never be forgotten by us Loyalists.
So the lyrics says "We are the Bridgeton Derry Billy Boys" because of they were from Bridgeton and Londonderry? I wondered what meant the "Derry" part. Thanks in advance.
@crischl6814 sometimes the "brigton derry boys" Derry is a name used alot in Glasgow to refer to Londonderry. There used to be a section in the old ibrox Park called "the Derry"
@Benn Venables It always does. Anytime they show him without saying who he is they make sure he's smoking on a nice cigar. Just look at Inglorious Basterds and pretty much anywhere else he's shown but not specifically mentioned. You immediately know it's him.
@@TanstA shelby talking about being a fascist in front of churchill probs biggest mistake he's made. Reckon last episode have a twist with churchill involved.
I read No mean city donkeys years ago and it was brilliant and my mother made an off the cuff comment about her family in some way was related to the Starks but she didn't elaborate, I was about 18 years old at the time and now I'm 68 I'm sure Johnny was the main character and Kathleen was his mother, I hope I have got that right but correct me if I'm wrong, All the best you've brought back some good memories.
The UVF was formed in 1912 to oppose home rule and protect the Union with Britain. Then WW1 broke out and the British done a deal with Ulster Protestants that if they fought for the crown against the Germans then they would honour our union with Britain. They also done a similar deal with Irish Republicans that if they fought for Britain in ww1 they would grant them their independence and that is how Ireland became the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland respectively. The UVF then re emerged in the troubles but they aren't linked to the original UVF they just used their name.
(SPOILERS) It’s weird that in season 6 we hear absolutely nothing about them, even tho the leader of the billy boys was one of the more central characters of season 5 up until the season 5 finale
How can "Fenian" be a derogatory term when Irish Catholics call themselves it? Fenian means Irish warrior. A derogatory term would be "Tarrier" or "Taig". Do your research.
@@alanhenderson7989 I know it's fiction Alan but to be honest I'm addicted to it, let's face it mate there's not much else worth watching on the TV, CHEERS, NORMAN.
The UVF first formed in 1912 by Viscount James Craig, Lord Edward Carson and Captain Spencer Wilfred as a armed response to the 3rd Home Rule Bill. The UVF is heavily famous for being 100,000 strong, Gun running to arm itself especially the large shipment of 25,000 mauser rifles and machine guns landing in Larne with millions of rounds of ammunition and they made up the ranks 36th Ulster Division during WW1 which was the most successful Division to fight at the Somme 1916 as they were the only ones to break the German lines on the first day. They disbanded in 1921 due to the Partition of Ireland as Northern Ireland got their own government and Prime Minister first being the brain's of the operation Viscount James Craig, the UVF was replaced by the Ulster Special Constabulery (B'specials/B men) which was a non paid voluntarily military wing of the police force the Royal Ulster Constabulery (RUC). The UVF reformed in 1966 by Gusty Spence and is still present today is nothing but killing the protestant people through their drug dealing, they destroyed the rich and prideful name of the original UVF.
You're wrong about the relationship between political violence and the BUF. Mosley did have stewards at his rallies, but they never went out of their way to break up the rallies of non-fascists in the 1930s. The only recorded instances where the BUF did this were against the British Fascists and International Fascist League. The former was an attack on a regional headquarters, and the latter was indeed breaking up an IFL rally, due to the personal animosity between the IFL leader, Arnold Leese, and Mosley. So when you say the BUF broke up Communist rallies you're incorrect, and indeed you only cite continental examples for your answer. Aggressive stewarding is however recorded, such as Olympia in 1934 the most researched for BUF political violence. So had you found examples of that by the Billy Boys, it would have been more persuasive and historically accurate if you had any sources.
Haytham Kenway Agreed, I think such contentious subjects need a lot more proper research. Seems a fair bit of misinformation in this one. Amendment badly needed...
Imma repeat what other people have said the U.V.F was formed in 1912 by Edward Carson to oppose home rule and they also fought in WW1 as the 36th Ulster division it was disbanded after World War One and illegally formed in the troubles
fake scottish accents and why show beautiful countryside when Glasgow comes on screen instead of the tenements from that period and i have played to the cows before but the fake band leading the billy boys flip more research was needed a razor gang who followed Rangers hope this season gets better think we have been spoilt with the previous gangs who lock horns with the peakies although alfie could still be alive
Being an Atheist from Aberdeen, I absolutely hate the Old Firm, sectarianism and certain outdated views that still fester in Glasgow today. I moved down to the West of Scotland and the denial of the scale of the issue by BOTH sides is just unreal. Complete culture shock to me to realise to avoid having a day out spoiled I had to check local parade routes to avoid ugly scenes filled with equally ugly people in gaudy blue and orange dresses, matched by orange skin looking incredibly tacky or wearing Rangers tops. I'd never had to experience that before. Yet the locals insist it's 'everywhere in Scotland.' I don't care which side you represent, marching in a flute band should not be allowed. It certainly isn't in Dundee, Inverness or Aberdeen. Problem is a lot of Catholics in Greater Glasgow lack perspective as they have no experience living beyond Perth, the last point at which you find the Orange Lodge. Ask everyone about the OO north of there in Scotland who doesn't support Rangers (and even some who DO) and you will get the same reaction as you would from a Catholic. It's very much centred around Lanarkshire, Renfrewshire and Ayrshire. These people have no self-awareness and I've seen more culture in a pot of yoghurt.
As an Irish man I totally agree. I remember going on a Celtic trip with my school as a lad to Scotland (Easy trip to a different country with my mates? Sign me up) but was never a huge football fan or really paid much attention to Celtic. I remember on the boat trip back some of my class mates getting into a verbal row with a bunch of 50 year old ranger's fans (Funnily enough, his daughter didn't give two fucks about the stupid divide) and I just had to walk down the stairs past the Rangers fans and hold my hands up saying in gesture "I'm not with them and think this is stupid". I have met some really nice and down to earth protestant people from Northern Ireland and it sickens me this stupid shit still goes on
an order of supposedly protestant men, who celebrate the battles of william of orange who was a prominent supporter of the scottish army against the english/irish
The Orange Order was created in a village called Loughgall in County Armagh after the Battle of the Diamond between the Peep O'day Boys (Who were Protestants and won the battle) and the Catholic Defenders in 1795. It was founded by Dan Winters, James Wilson and James Sloan to be the defenders of the Protestant faith and to protect the British Crown from any threats in the island of Ireland. They are based heavily not only on faith but on King William III Prince of Orange victory against the Catholic King James II especially at the Battle of the Boyne but at Battle of Aughrim, Defence of Enniskillen and the Seige of Londonderry. Unlike the what that other lad told you the Williamite Army was built up of English, Scottish, Ulster Scots (today's Northern Irish protestants), Dutch and Germans while the Jacobites where made up of a small amount of English and Scottish, Irish Catholics and French. Today the Orange Order is still heavily faith based, sets up large parades like the 12th of July celebrations to remember the Boyne and to stand for our British rights. The Orange Order all over the world- Northern Ireland England Scotland Wales Republic of Ireland Canada United States of America New Zealand Australia Nigeria Togo We Orangemen like to call this the Orange Empire, it was bigger when the British Empire was about as British soldiers had lodges set up in the colonies for themselves. This wee history lesson comes from an Orangeman himself
Never watched peaky blinders and not a fan of the bbc they have a history of misconstruing our very own history but i can tell you that the original uvf formed around 1912 much deferent from the modern interpretation these men actually went out to fight on the frontlines in world war one also billy is short for the name william witch gives it that little connection with king william the third of orange and why the song was widely adopted by ulster unionism and not just general rangers fans but i dont think anyone has any doubt that it comes from the glasgow gang of the billy boys.
TRUST me you will find out who the billy boys are this was the word ham acting ive ever seen everything else in peaky blinders loved it that part was atrocious.....im sure they will understand when they get the truth
7:10 The Ulster Volunteer Force dates back to WW2 as that is why and when it was formed, not 1960s. When you said "Oh so I did a bit of digging" was expecting this very known piece of history to be explained but it wasn't which is highly embarrassing on your part. Seems you clicked on a few too many Gaelic colonisation revisionist history links and Facebook pages.
Hey, just wanted to let you know that what you're doing is super impressive in terms of your level of knowledge and experience as well as juggling university and RUclips. Also wanted to let you know that a year 12 history class in South Australia is literally using your videos in classes to explain the Weimar Republic! Keep doing what you're doing!
@@redwhiteandblue818They left the same time as ever one else 7:30am and the only ones to beak through the German lines as they done what is now known as the (Ulster Dash) which they ran as one instead of walking and in waves like the English, Welsh and Scottish. The 36th was that fast they over taken the British bombardments, breaking through 2miles of German lines only to have to retreat in the early hours of 2nd July as they attacked from 3 sides, heavy casualties and low on ammunition. Thanks to English command of incompetence they used the reserve forces to reinforce the Liverpool and Manchester Pals which never broke past the first lines, if they reinforced the 36th they could have encircled the Germans on the left or right helping the other divisions break through. But the funniest bit of all the Ulster men attacked the Schwaben Redoubt which was the most heavily defended position in the Somme. The Ulster man is the best warriors in the world hands down.
A video on Mosley would be super interesting.
Theres interviews with him on this very website. Just whack his name into search.
they really did my boy oswald wrong...
@James Cooper Mosley wasn’t a nazi
@@S444nndd he literally led the BRITISH UNION OF FASCISTS. A distinction without a difference. Antisemite , fascist, Nazi. Makes no difference.
Good on Cable Street for sticking up to him
@@totallynotalpharius2283 fascists are not nazis, they are two different ideologys
Kinda hard to hear you over some of the music.
@Wubba Wubba some of us arent deaf and enjoy quality music.
@@charlesgrimmer6486 I'm not deaf but I watch videos to listen to the speakers. In this case the vocal track is quieter than the music and sometimes drowns out the words. Not all of us are young and not all of us don't give a damn about others' pleasure. What difference would it make to you with your perfect hearing if the vocal track was the louder one?
@@charlesgrimmer6486 uh, the music is too over the top
@@grubbybum3614 cant hear you over the sound of this well balanced audio.
@Wubba Wubba To cover the edits, cos they don't know how to do it properly. Maybe.
The original UVF of 1912 was formed to oppose Home Rule in Ireland. Then World War 1 broke out and the majority of them joined the Army, mostly the 36th Ulster Division.
Aaron Weir funnily enough due the war the Nationalist volunteers and the UVF actually got on...sometimes.
In the town of omagh the UVF band played nationalist volunteers off at the train station as they left for France equipped with rifles from unionist stocks
Then there Is 16th Division.
36th & 16th Division. North & South.
12th Btn Royal Irish Rifle, Quis Seperabit, Who shall separate us? RIP All of the fallen 36th
yeah right keep telling yourself that most stayed in their shipyards
Funnily enough, the actor who plays Jimmy McCraven, Brian Gleeson, is Irish and played a character named Jimmy who was an IRA soldier during the 1920s in the Netflix show "Rebellion".
I know, Im Scottish, Irish was detected instantly 😂
Could you do an episode on oswald mosley to go along with the peaky blinders theme
@Teilo Turner I have only started gcse history. Anyway I already know about the BUF however you can't have to much knowledge there must be something we don't know about him
@Chaz Wisdom he was certainly not a bell end he was a charismatic leader and a brilliant economist. He wanted what was best for Britain. Maybe if he was able to gain power Britain would not be in such a bungle today. He was not a far right person he was very left wing even made his own left wing party. He was a fascist yes but not all fascists are Hitler and Mussolini just like not every communist is a Stalin or a Mao
@Chaz Wisdom Imagine being this much of a fucking idiot.
@Chaz Wisdom ".bet yer a wee englander bawbag " Hahaha
Add Text Here Aye, hating Jews is what’s best for Britain, is it? Fuck off with that shite.
Apologies about the volume levels in this one I'm not sure why my voice keeps getting quieter but I'll have the volume of the music down in the next ones so it shouldn't be an issue. Thanks for watching and understanding everyone!
Straight White British Protestant Stfu lad😂😂😂
I think you'll find King Billy didn't come from Ireland. He also didn't originate from Scotland or England. King William III was from the House of Orange, rulers of Netherlands - although Orange is actually a place in France.
You’d wanna research your videos better as a lot of your info especially dates etc are wrong. To be expected when an Englishman tried to cover the history of eire
@Straight White British Protestant hahahahaha
Is it just me who can hear the video fine?
What's wrong with the sound?
no, nothing wrong with the video lol
ITFC Brendon o can hear it fine
yes, it's just you
I'm from Brigton (Bridgeton) and grew up with Billy Fullerton's grandson.
I really like Aberama Gold character. Spoiler alert - feel sad we are not going to see him in next season.
yep i didn't like that his character did not get what they wanted, but i love aidan gillen too much as is to see him not on the show.
...'did' like... [past tense] LOL
Bro to soon
Great vid mate. Loving the new season, and I was wondering about the Billy Boys!
I mean technically the three brothers are back, Finn is alive so that counts as three
Fax
I think he meant John because Finn had no effect on how the peaky operated ..
@@Sorter_123 he did mean John, but the commenter was saying that since there are 3 brothers that are back for Series 5 then it still counts
@@crywlf9103 i guess we will see anout that , won’t we ? 😉
I’m just here to say that at 1:37 the position of Glasgow is wrong. Have a good day
Magnificent Bastard it’s for the yanks, they don’t know any better
@@genericwhitemale6089 Not everyone is either American or British
@@spacechimp3199 you don’t say?
@@Brockers123 everyone acts like it
Ah was just about to point that out 😝 lol
The guy supposed to be Billy Fullerton does the worst Scottish accent I've ever heard and that's saying something
TimBhoy67 yeah man it actually hurts
Yeah but he sounds proper cool
The man is Irish that's why
@@appocalypsechild he's still supposed to be from Glasgow. It's the worst Glaswegian accent I've ever heard.
Yer right there pal . Thought he was fucking Welsh at one point . 🤣
I am from Glasgow and I learned about the Billy Boys at school.
Well done
John Bull I’m from Kilmarnock and moved around a lot so sadly I didn’t learn about them
You might want to start your investigation with- where did they get that attrocious Scottish accent.
The Howling Misogynist I know it’s shit
Absolutely atrocious, they sound like hefty Tuechter
@@Charlie-yp6ub It sounded more like Western Brigadoon to me
In the Philippines Billy Boy is a slang term for transsexual.
Same in Ireland
@@Mark-Ozi never heard that in Ireland we just hate the actual Billy boys
Personally as a Welshman I think both sides are absolutely pathetic, cue the sheep jokes, I’ll take that over being a sad as fuck catholic or Protestant brainwashed man child
Same with most of Scotland these days
@@Syndixal Believe me, the feeling is mutual. Republican Bastard.
Hullo
Hullo
We are the Billy boys
Hullo
Hullo
You'll know us by our noise
We're up to our knees in Fenian blood
Surrender or you'll die
For we are the brigedon Billy boys
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Well they dare not call us invaders,
'Tis but state rights and liberty we ask;
And Missouri, we will ever defend her,
No matter how hard may be the task.
Then let the Irishmen assemble,
Let the voice of Missouri be obeyed;
And the northern fanatics will tremble
When again they meet Kelly's Irish Brigade
@Mr B scumbag
My dad is Billy Fullerton's nephew. I'm learning a lot about my family roots... Sheesh!
@Caden Jackson That's not nice. You don't know me. I don't hold any of the beliefs my dead family members believe in. I'm just finding out about all this stuff. Show some bloody manners, will you?
@Caden Jackson I just saw your playlists. Boring af. So there ya have it.
Mate the UVF was formed in 1912?
Basically, your not far off.
It was formed officially on 31st January 1913.
Then officially became a Unit who fought in the First World War. See RTE in Google.
This guy really has not gotten his facts correct.
This particular Vlog should be done again with much more research.
If you look, I already left a comment relating to derogatory terms used by both sides.
As your probably aware, this is common in so many Countries where religion is being used as a tool.
I live in Northern Ireland, fortunately my Mother, despite coming from the Shankill was educated privately in both Primary and Grammar of mixed religions. She was taught Irish History, she always regretted they were not also taught Irish. She won a Bursary to Queens University. At that time only 2 were available in Ireland.
Regrettably the War started, my Grandfather joined up in less than a month of that. He was a great reader and thinker, not swayed by what he ought to believe.
My Grandmother was a cook in Belfast Castle, working nights. In those days, evening functions and wedding breakfasts.
She could not afford all of the paraphernalia required at that time, as obviously, her work was affected.
My Mother left school and went to work as there were 5 siblings below her. Not once in her lifetime did she ever voice regrets.
Not everyone in these areas was Unionist. My Grandfather for one was Labour, though did not believe in communism.
It's a case in this Vlog of, literally, tarring everyone with the same brush.
Please either redo this with more research or remove it.
This is the type of ill informed information which causes friction.
I can assure you, the majority of us living here, UK and Eire have had enough.
Called ulster volunteers. Think the force bit was added in the 60’s
@@janetrodgers8473 Good on you Janet, well said, if only people would listen instead of being led around by the nose.
Janet Rodgers You’re right “officially” although they had their beginnings in 1911-12 they weren’t “officially” founded until 1913.
@@BigBadDon1893 The name was always ULSTER VOLUNTEER FORCE and in the 60s they re-emerged.
You forgot to mention that by the time of 30's they had about 800 foking gang members while peaky had at most 100 (WIKIPEDIA)
You need to do some research into the 36th Ulster Division and the historical UVF of 1911. I know its not easy to understand when you aren't from Ulster but some things you've said are just wrong.
If you type UVF into Wikipedia it talks about 1960 and you can click to group with similar name Ulster Volunteers.
username this is taken from the Wikipedia page. Read further than the title. I was born and live in Belfast, trust me.
The Ulster Volunteers was a unionist militia founded in 1912 to block domestic self-government (or Home Rule) for Ireland, which was then part of the United Kingdom. The Ulster Volunteers were based in the northern province of Ulster. Many Ulster Protestants feared being governed by a Catholic-majority parliament in Dublin and losing their local governance and strong links with Great Britain. In 1913, the militias were organised into the *Ulster Volunteer Force* (UVF) and vowed to resist any attempts by the British Government to impose Home Rule on Ulster. Later that year, Irish nationalists formed a rival militia, the Irish Volunteers, to safeguard Home Rule. In April 1914, the UVF smuggled 25,000 rifles into Ulster.
@@LukeAndreLopez At last, someone who knows what their talking about, good on you mucker.
Norman Curragh you know the score big son.
@@LukeAndreLopez I certainly do mucker, like yourself, all the best.
The word 'Fenian' has nothing to do with religion. In actual fact, the founders of the 1860s fenian brotherhood were protestants who disagreed with the British control. The word comes from the ancient Fianna led by the ancient Celtic warrior Fion Maccumhaill (Finn mccool)
Kev The Rev yeah the origin of the word has no religious meaning but you have no idea how many times I’ve been called fenian in the 21st century for being a catholic, walking through a Protestant area
The Fenians weren't Protestant
Animal Mother I’m talking about I’M a catholic being called a fenian
Animal Mother The fenians weren’t Catholic either.
RFC72UB The Fenian Brotherhood in particular was the one organisation that was comprised almost solely of nationalists from a Catholic upbringing, even though it was technically an irreligious organisation. In reality their men were Catholic and the Fenians had a close relationship with the clergy. I'd give it a pass if it was the Young Irelanders or United Irishmen, because their leadership was decidedly Protestant.
That bit about the black and squares really got me, never knew what it was called, so thank you
For God and Ulster. No surrender.
🤚✊🏻💪🏻
"Billy" is a Scots word for friend, buddy or co-worker. That is also where the name "Hillbilly" comes from in the US, from the Ulster-Scots who spoke Scots.
Billy in Scotland is used to mean rangers fans who are considered the Protestants, celtic fans are called Tim’s who are considered the catholics, Billy is used as it comes from William of orange. There’s a show called singin im not a Billy he’s a Tim you should watch it on RUclips.
And king William
hullo hullo WATP
Rangers fans Still sing the Billy Boys to this day (albeit they're not supposed to)
ooohh no, rangers fans bad
When that Celtic fan came to Sunderland got knocked out on a Union Jack 🇬🇧 flag 🤣🤣
When Rangers fan came to Dublin played sash got beaten up🇮🇪
Robert Kelly good for them
connor swainston That is bad because your advocating sectarianism with is an awful thing in Northern Ireland
Robert Kelly all said was what happened tbh don’t have clue or care what you on about
connor swainston You should Google the troubles sectarianism is like racism
Hello, hello, we are the billy boys
I’m a rangers fan btw
Orange Order isn’t celebrating the Billy boys it’s celebrating the williamite Victory over the jacobites
Whats it like having webbed feet?
@@conorlamb1411 fuck off you manky tim . RULE BRITANNIA
conor lamb use literally scream about the IRA each week, a terrorist organisation that murdered thousands of scottish soldiers.
@@Andrew-nh9ex ye but it was the English who sent them Scottish soldiers to eire to die ;)
@@Andrew-nh9ex That's right and worse they snuck over to Scotland to murder them
Celtic's first team was all Scottish except for a few Irish and an Englishmen, both clubs are Scottish but Celtic just signed Catholics and protestants when rangers wouldn't sign Catholics, I'm a Scot through and through my family have been on this land for hundreds of years but I'm a Celtic fan, cause I believe that Celtic were formed for a noble cause, you don't need to be Irish to support Celtic it's a scotch-irish club, when rangers are the scotch-english/British club
Scotch-Irish (Ulster Scot) is bad term to use to describe Celtic…. and Rangers aren’t Scotch-English, they are just Scottish/ British.
THATS MOST AUTISTIC REASON TO SUPPORT A CLUB THATS LIKE IF I WAS TO SUPPORT ONE JAPANESE TEAM CAUSE THEY LIKE A RELIGIOUN UNLIKE THE OTHER JAPANESE TEAM OR A SPANISH TEAM OR GERMAN OR ENGLISH
@@lacuna-d9f I agree wi that, I just struggle to put things into words y'know, and I dont use Ulster Scot, but Celtics main fans are from Scotland and the Republic of Ireland y'know
@@alehlete830 no need to shout lad lmao, and the reason I fell in love with Celtic was how they played when I was a wee man, but it just so happens I agree with Thier beliefs too :)
@@ConnorKD1876 lickckck k k
You really dropped a bollock with this one. Pretty sad as you usually get a lot right. In no particular order:
1. Fenian may be a derogatory term for Catholics but is also used as a term of affirmation for those who support Irish unity/independence - named after The Fenian Brotherhood. Indeed, Celtic fans had a banner at a recent game declaiming themselves as a, 'Fenian Army'. Its usage as a derogatory term for Catholics is recent and debatable.
2. The Orange Order is not limited to Northern Ireland but, like the Irish rugby team, is a whole-island organisation. There are more than 40 Orange Lodges in the ROI.
3. Had Mr Fullerton been called, say, Nigel, would we chant about 'The Brigton Nigel Boys'? Of course not. The Billy Boys were named after William of Orange.
4. Fullerton didn't start a branch of the KKK. He set up a wee club and called it the KKK. It had nothing to do with the American organisation.
5. The UVF was established by Sir Edward Carson in 1912 to resist Home Rule and became a large (more than 30,000 strong?) organisation of trained militia, nurses, communications and logistics experts and would have been formidable had there been any attempt to impose Home Rule on Ulster. At the outbreak of WW1 what was the 36th (Ulster) Division was largely composed of the Ulster Volunteers. Brave men of The UVF, in the form of the 36th Ulster Division, received 8 Victoria Crosses between them as they helped free mainland Europe, including the Low Countries, from German expansionism.
I really would have expected better from you and suggest that you take this video down and start again with more respect and more accuracy.
Alan Mac the Billy Bouys we’re named after Fullerton. If he was called Nigel they would have been called something different
@@quartzking3997 " Billy Bouys we’re named after Fullerton" Sorry, mate, but that is nonsense both as a statement in English and as a sentiment.
The actual Fenians of the 19th century tended to be anticlerical and were condemned by the Catholic hierarchy. They supported Irish Nationalist leader Parnell against the Church.
Well said Alan Mac FGAU
Didn't billy fullerton attempt to create a Glasgow branch of the kkk after the billy boys dissolved??
They are fascist and racist scum
More Peaky Blinders! How about a video on Oswald Mosley?
SIR Oswald Mosley, if you please.
@@digs1223 I do beg your pardon.
Again, put his name in search and listen to the real man speak his own words so you aren't getting second hand knowledge.
You're sound level is so low could you pls other times make it a bit higher
Brigton Derry 🇬🇧
Orange bastard
Yaaasssss ma man 🇬🇧
My Grandfather was a Billy Boy. At their height in the 1930s they had an active gang membership of 1,000. They also had a Youth Wing called the Derry Boys, with a similar number of fighters (1k). My Grandfather was a close friend of Billy (the King) Fullerton. He could fight 3 hard bastard Glasgow coppers at the one time and win. A real scrapper. The Ulster Volunteer Force (36th Division) were formed by Sir Edward Carson, and they fought at the Battle of the Somme. Out of 5,000 men, only 70 came back home. Their sacrafice will never be forgotten by us Loyalists.
Was he close with the peaky fooookin blinders?
Ah your grandfather was a reknown racist and fascist? Cool story
So the lyrics says "We are the Bridgeton Derry Billy Boys" because of they were from Bridgeton and Londonderry? I wondered what meant the "Derry" part. Thanks in advance.
@@crischl6814 Lyrics are simply "Brigton Billy Boys"
@crischl6814 sometimes the "brigton derry boys" Derry is a name used alot in Glasgow to refer to Londonderry. There used to be a section in the old ibrox Park called "the Derry"
WATP 🇬🇧🏴
FTP
We’re up to our knees 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧
WATP 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
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Oh Big Jock Knew oh big Jock knew !
3:29 the mighty anthem is back
HULLO HULLO 🍊🇬🇧
That scene with the billy boys and Aberama Gold was so sick. My favorite scene in the new season by far.
Mon the rangers
1:19 “Banned from being sung” Laughs in Ibrox
Up to our knees in fenian blood, surrender or you'll die
Did anyone notice Winston churchill in the episode? Wild card he is
@Benn Venables It always does. Anytime they show him without saying who he is they make sure he's smoking on a nice cigar. Just look at Inglorious Basterds and pretty much anywhere else he's shown but not specifically mentioned. You immediately know it's him.
@@TanstA shelby talking about being a fascist in front of churchill probs biggest mistake he's made. Reckon last episode have a twist with churchill involved.
No Mean City is a great book if your interested in Glasgow razor gangs.
Rebel Mixes plenty
Great critique of capitalism as well as some razor gang stuff.
I read No mean city donkeys years ago and it was brilliant and my mother made an off the cuff comment about her family in some way was related to the Starks but she didn't elaborate, I was about 18 years old at the time and now I'm 68 I'm sure Johnny was the main character and Kathleen was his mother, I hope I have got that right but correct me if I'm wrong, All the best you've brought back some good memories.
Fuck mate I’m from Northern Ireland and billy boys just means we’re the sons of William basically and that we fight for King Billy
Growing up near glasgow I hear the Billy boys song all the time it's weird seeing the billy boys in a show like pesky blinders
where do you hear it?
@@beastt-_ rangers fans
The UVF was formed in 1912 to oppose home rule and protect the Union with Britain. Then WW1 broke out and the British done a deal with Ulster Protestants that if they fought for the crown against the Germans then they would honour our union with Britain. They also done a similar deal with Irish Republicans that if they fought for Britain in ww1 they would grant them their independence and that is how Ireland became the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland respectively.
The UVF then re emerged in the troubles but they aren't linked to the original UVF they just used their name.
(SPOILERS)
It’s weird that in season 6 we hear absolutely nothing about them, even tho the leader of the billy boys was one of the more central characters of season 5 up until the season 5 finale
Fenian actually means warrior in Irish Gaelic. Edited. If so in a way, it can be a complimentary comment.
Exactly. I don't understand how it's "derogatory"
@@appocalypsechild Can't be a "hate term" when they call it themselves
@David L 2 different words. You have the hard r then the a
I thought it's cultural root was the Fenian Cycle. But that was before our native culture was purged by fairy tales from the middle East
@@perfection72.87it's derogatory because it's used in sentences like "the famines over ya dirty fenian bastard"
How can "Fenian" be a derogatory term when Irish Catholics call themselves it? Fenian means Irish warrior. A derogatory term would be "Tarrier" or "Taig". Do your research.
Perfection72. You’re a complete fucking idiot
Mental!! No Catholic calls themselves that you muppet.
@@peterdevane1820 Yes they do lol, how stupud are you? A "Fenian" translates to Irish Warrior...
@@cfc6276 elaborate?
@@cfc6276 Or an American but I repeat myself
Billy boys are fucking legends. RULE BRITANNIA 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I thought they were ex-members of the Black and Tans
theyre probably was a few but they are older than that
Tyler Morris
Fenian is not a derogatory term mate. It’s Irish for warrior. It’s part of our feckin language. Haha
Tyler Morris Fenian bastard
@@alanhenderson7989 No Alan, it's warrior Bastard. Ha ha ha,
Norman Curragh The series was pretty poor despite the Billy boys doing their stuff.
@@alanhenderson7989 I know it's fiction Alan but to be honest I'm addicted to it, let's face it mate there's not much else worth watching on the TV, CHEERS, NORMAN.
The UVF first formed in 1912 by Viscount James Craig, Lord Edward Carson and Captain Spencer Wilfred as a armed response to the 3rd Home Rule Bill. The UVF is heavily famous for being 100,000 strong, Gun running to arm itself especially the large shipment of 25,000 mauser rifles and machine guns landing in Larne with millions of rounds of ammunition and they made up the ranks 36th Ulster Division during WW1 which was the most successful Division to fight at the Somme 1916 as they were the only ones to break the German lines on the first day.
They disbanded in 1921 due to the Partition of Ireland as Northern Ireland got their own government and Prime Minister first being the brain's of the operation Viscount James Craig, the UVF was replaced by the Ulster Special Constabulery (B'specials/B men) which was a non paid voluntarily military wing of the police force the Royal Ulster Constabulery (RUC). The UVF reformed in 1966 by Gusty Spence and is still present today is nothing but killing the protestant people through their drug dealing, they destroyed the rich and prideful name of the original UVF.
In Scotland its a criminal offence to sing Sectarian Songs, not sure about England.
Your absolutely correct, it's an offence in UK, Northern Ireland also.
@Ian Murray aye i know, like if you sing in the middle of glasgow you'll probs get lifted. happened to my mate
I am a billy boy
There the Rangers
You're wrong about the relationship between political violence and the BUF. Mosley did have stewards at his rallies, but they never went out of their way to break up the rallies of non-fascists in the 1930s.
The only recorded instances where the BUF did this were against the British Fascists and International Fascist League. The former was an attack on a regional headquarters, and the latter was indeed breaking up an IFL rally, due to the personal animosity between the IFL leader, Arnold Leese, and Mosley. So when you say the BUF broke up Communist rallies you're incorrect, and indeed you only cite continental examples for your answer.
Aggressive stewarding is however recorded, such as Olympia in 1934 the most researched for BUF political violence. So had you found examples of that by the Billy Boys, it would have been more persuasive and historically accurate if you had any sources.
Haytham Kenway Agreed, I think such contentious subjects need a lot more proper research. Seems a fair bit of misinformation in this one. Amendment badly needed...
Hullo hullo we are the Billy boys
WATP🔴⚪🔵
Imma repeat what other people have said the U.V.F was formed in 1912 by Edward Carson to oppose home rule and they also fought in WW1 as the 36th Ulster division it was disbanded after World War One and illegally formed in the troubles
lol the UK and their speech laws good thing ya fought off the "evil nazis" 😂
As an Irish person, while I dont like the song as someone who supports free speech it should be allowed to be sung
The UVF was formed in 1912, what's he on about the 60's for??
The current form of the uvf formed in 1966.
The name Billy boys actually originated from king Billy or william of orange and not one of the gangs leaders.
Hello hello
fake scottish accents and why show beautiful countryside when Glasgow comes on screen instead of the tenements from that period and i have played to the cows before but the fake band leading the billy boys flip more research was needed a razor gang who followed Rangers hope this season gets better think we have been spoilt with the previous gangs who lock horns with the peakies although alfie could still be alive
Nice man super fijn dat je dit doet. Eindelijk een Nederlander die history vids maakt
Lustig, wie viel man doch als Deutscher verstehen kann.
Altijd man!
History With Hilbert Wag is jy self ń Nederlander? Ek kom dit nie agter in jou aksent nie
Hum Brit geboren uit Nederlandse ouders toch?
charly van buuren Is sy ouers Nederlanders?
I thought I herd Oswaldo Mosley when I was just watching The hateful Eight 🤣🤣🤣 But it’s Oswald.
Uncle Oswald Mosely didn't do nothing!
Interesting to hear a Dutch-English millennial’s interpretation of this. What’s going on with the music though? Especially from 8:00 onwards.
Our beloved King Billy 👑 we get a wile slanderin so we do, God Bless the Ulster Scots!!
@@pauls3660 ah yes murdering, sectarian bastards aye up them.
Hullo hullo we are the billy boys 🇬🇧
🎵you’ll know us by our noise🎵
Being an Atheist from Aberdeen, I absolutely hate the Old Firm, sectarianism and certain outdated views that still fester in Glasgow today. I moved down to the West of Scotland and the denial of the scale of the issue by BOTH sides is just unreal. Complete culture shock to me to realise to avoid having a day out spoiled I had to check local parade routes to avoid ugly scenes filled with equally ugly people in gaudy blue and orange dresses, matched by orange skin looking incredibly tacky or wearing Rangers tops. I'd never had to experience that before. Yet the locals insist it's 'everywhere in Scotland.' I don't care which side you represent, marching in a flute band should not be allowed.
It certainly isn't in Dundee, Inverness or Aberdeen.
Problem is a lot of Catholics in Greater Glasgow lack perspective as they have no experience living beyond Perth, the last point at which you find the Orange Lodge. Ask everyone about the OO north of there in Scotland who doesn't support Rangers (and even some who DO) and you will get the same reaction as you would from a Catholic. It's very much centred around Lanarkshire, Renfrewshire and Ayrshire.
These people have no self-awareness and I've seen more culture in a pot of yoghurt.
As an Irish man I totally agree. I remember going on a Celtic trip with my school as a lad to Scotland (Easy trip to a different country with my mates? Sign me up) but was never a huge football fan or really paid much attention to Celtic. I remember on the boat trip back some of my class mates getting into a verbal row with a bunch of 50 year old ranger's fans (Funnily enough, his daughter didn't give two fucks about the stupid divide) and I just had to walk down the stairs past the Rangers fans and hold my hands up saying in gesture "I'm not with them and think this is stupid". I have met some really nice and down to earth protestant people from Northern Ireland and it sickens me this stupid shit still goes on
as a dutch man and orange being my color what is the orange order
an order of supposedly protestant men, who celebrate the battles of william of orange who was a prominent supporter of the scottish army against the english/irish
@@youareaspook5897 willem van oranje* lol cool
@@youareaspook5897 Wrong
The Orange Order was created in a village called Loughgall in County Armagh after the Battle of the Diamond between the Peep O'day Boys (Who were Protestants and won the battle) and the Catholic Defenders in 1795. It was founded by Dan Winters, James Wilson and James Sloan to be the defenders of the Protestant faith and to protect the British Crown from any threats in the island of Ireland. They are based heavily not only on faith but on King William III Prince of Orange victory against the Catholic King James II especially at the Battle of the Boyne but at Battle of Aughrim, Defence of Enniskillen and the Seige of Londonderry.
Unlike the what that other lad told you the Williamite Army was built up of English, Scottish, Ulster Scots (today's Northern Irish protestants), Dutch and Germans while the Jacobites where made up of a small amount of English and Scottish, Irish Catholics and French.
Today the Orange Order is still heavily faith based, sets up large parades like the 12th of July celebrations to remember the Boyne and to stand for our British rights. The Orange Order all over the world-
Northern Ireland
England
Scotland
Wales
Republic of Ireland
Canada
United States of America
New Zealand
Australia
Nigeria
Togo
We Orangemen like to call this the Orange Empire, it was bigger when the British Empire was about as British soldiers had lodges set up in the colonies for themselves.
This wee history lesson comes from an Orangeman himself
Hullo! Hullo! We are the Billy boys!
All together now the cry was no surrender
Barnsey eyooooo 😂😂🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Kirsty Reid 🇬🇧
Billy Boys...are they all Billy Bob
Now i am going to laugh
As a dutch person I went fully hyped with the national anthem, I can't control myself
Ik begon spontaan hard op mee te zingen🤣
King Billy watp
watp 🇬🇧
Nice video! I was wondering this myself when i was watching the new season. Thanks for explaining it! Cheers mate
Except he got most of the facts wrong.
Better history teacher than any of mine in grade school
Oswald Mosley was a hero
where did you get the idea that brigton is an english part of glasgow? I'm from Glasgow and can assure you that it isn't
No, he said Brigton is the Scottish word for the English word Bridgetown. He talking about Language not nationality. The English language.
Never watched peaky blinders and not a fan of the bbc they have a history of misconstruing our very own history but i can tell you that the original uvf formed around 1912 much deferent from the modern interpretation these men actually went out to fight on the frontlines in world war one also billy is short for the name william witch gives it that little connection with king william the third of orange and why the song was widely adopted by ulster unionism and not just general rangers fans but i dont think anyone has any doubt that it comes from the glasgow gang of the billy boys.
I'm smirking over the fact you show UVF fellas in uniform but show the RPG in the Irish colours. Hilbert is in the RA confirmed 😂😂😂
Aren't those condoms
Irish and proud up the RA 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
British and proud go fuck yoursel
Stevie Butla manky orange bastard. Union bears mind the stairs . Up the Ra
Death to the RA rule Britannia
NUKA MAGE inbred manky English wanker
His accent in the show is absolute pish !
Can anyone confirm that billy Fullerton was a real person can’t find anything on him in history
He did exist.
Yes Billy Fullerton was very real in the brigton area of Glasgow and quite an evil bastard too
100 percent. I'm from brigton.
TRUST me you will find out who the billy boys are this was the word ham acting ive ever seen everything else in peaky blinders loved it that part was atrocious.....im sure they will understand when they get the truth
7:10
The Ulster Volunteer Force dates back to WW2 as that is why and when it was formed, not 1960s.
When you said "Oh so I did a bit of digging" was expecting this very known piece of history to be explained but it wasn't which is highly embarrassing on your part.
Seems you clicked on a few too many Gaelic colonisation revisionist history links and Facebook pages.
Hey, just wanted to let you know that what you're doing is super impressive in terms of your level of knowledge and experience as well as juggling university and RUclips. Also wanted to let you know that a year 12 history class in South Australia is literally using your videos in classes to explain the Weimar Republic! Keep doing what you're doing!
The u v f fought in the war and were formed in 1912 you need to do more research bud
Correct. They were first over the top at The Somme
@@redwhiteandblue818They left the same time as ever one else 7:30am and the only ones to beak through the German lines as they done what is now known as the (Ulster Dash) which they ran as one instead of walking and in waves like the English, Welsh and Scottish. The 36th was that fast they over taken the British bombardments, breaking through 2miles of German lines only to have to retreat in the early hours of 2nd July as they attacked from 3 sides, heavy casualties and low on ammunition. Thanks to English command of incompetence they used the reserve forces to reinforce the Liverpool and Manchester Pals which never broke past the first lines, if they reinforced the 36th they could have encircled the Germans on the left or right helping the other divisions break through. But the funniest bit of all the Ulster men attacked the Schwaben Redoubt which was the most heavily defended position in the Somme. The Ulster man is the best warriors in the world hands down.
Brilliant Chang's story intriguing! Would please make a video about him life? He appear season 5.
There's a book called no mean city written by someone who was in a Glasgow gang. Good book too
This videos explaining the historical elements on peaky blinders are perfect, please continue kkkk
Poor research.
Who are the Billy Boys?
The Boys of Billy.
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