i feel like tommy shelby in the show rides the line of being as dramatic and badass as possible JUST without going into the cringe territory. he rides the edge of that line so well.
@fruity granulizer that's true, but its the sake of entertainment for a specific group of people most of the time. Which isn't a big deal normally, unless things are included like current events or whatever the newest woke definitions are. They never really age well and can make some movies uninteresting to rewatch.
YES!! Thank you! My family is from Birmingham. The show is great but it absolutely kills me that it’s made people think that the peaky blinders are Irish and Liverpudlian. Finally a video that tells the REAL story
I love how the show doesn’t shy away from showing how bad the PTSD was for all the soldiers who survived the war. I have so much more respect for the show creators and writers because of those details
I think the show kind of hints that they were a small teenaged gang before they went off to war in the 1910’s but when they came back from war Tommy Shelby had acquired some new skills and a plan to become bigger than just a small gang
I think the time change is just that. Something had to happen to harden these men to give them their courage, bravery, and battle strategy. Giving it the more believability for the rise of Shelby's and the peaky blinders.
I'm really impressed with the writer for merging all these real life characters that he was connected to into his own storytelling/writing. When you watch it you really want it to be true and its nice to know that for the most part if not with various variations here and there it almost was. Pity about the timelines being totally different though but that is his choice as the writer and i think that was really well executed in the series. One of the best series ever made imo
My grandmother was a member of the Simpson family , a large family of bareknuckle boxers, sworn enemies of the Peaky Blinders. Most notable was her brother Jack who from his early teens was a bookmaker and had a growing reputation for being handy with his fists. When bookmaking became legal he opened a betting shop in the Birmingham suburb of Weoley Castle.
"One of the very first such gangs, were Birmingham's very own Peaky Blinders, who rose to prominence sometime in the early 1880s, rather than in the 1920s, as is suggested in the TV show. Why exactly the series writer and creator Steven Knight chose to shift the timeline a few decades isn't known..." "In reality, disposable razors hadn't actually been invented when the peaky blinders first appeared on the scene. They weren't produced in the UK until 1908." It sounds like you just gave yourself a plausible answer to your own question.
The shift was to give them all the ‘disturbed WW1 veteran’ role due to the 1st episode detailing theft of the Lewis guns which weren’t invented until 1911. In actual fact none of the original peaky blinders were veterans of any conflict let alone WW1 but in order to fit the narrative they needed to shift the time line by 30-40 years.
First time I watched this and I had never heard of peaky Blinders, show or gang. I so enjoyed this that I subscribed, liked, and hit thàt notification bell so that pesky centipede won't... oops wrong show 😃
8:50 I also believe that the hairstyles used in the show were part of the fact that the shelby family had fought in the first world war and shaven sides were quite common rather than going completely bald. Arthurs moustache was also a nod at this because the british soldier believed that the facial hair made them look more proper although they weren't allowed beards just like in modern times so they were able to wear gas masks correctly.
@@davidrichardson518 they used to shave their hair on the sides just so they could spot parasites and other endoparasitic organisms in their head especially soldiers that served in the first world war.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE SHOW. So happy that you've made a video on this. This is my FAVORITE TV show by far. The way they speak, their subtle mannerisms, the way the Shelby brothers demand respect and how they showcase their ASTOUNDING FASHION SENSE are just a few of the things that made me LOVE this show. W vid.
The thing is, the way he presents his topics, he could literally make a video titled "why the common grass is so boring" and I'd still watch it to the end. #doaboringtopic
@@redevil2095 your opinion is factually incorrect, it was a spectacular series that was very well acted, directed and scripted and it was just masterfully done in general
Razor blades in their caps was first mentioned in a book 'A Walk Down Summer lane' by Birmingham-born author, John Douglas. He admitted that he made the razors in caps story up to spice things up a little. It seems that whoever wrote the storylines for Peaky Blinders must have read his book.
As an American I didn't know so much of this info. So some of these characters were based on actual people? The cop and Kimber. Wow. Great video. Thanks for the info! Peaky Blinders became my favorite series when two months ago I watched every episode within a week and a half
@@Itamar536. reread my original post and tell me if I am Israeli. Pretty sure I wrote "As an American". Usually only someone who is American would only say such. If you took the two braincells you have left, and used them, I'd think it's pretty reasonable to assume I'm an American who knows a second language.
Seeing this video on my home page made me realize that I haven't checked when the final season will air in a while.. Turns out it's already aired and is arriving on Netflix Friday next week! I've been sitting on the final episode of season 5 for over two years now, I guess it's finally time to watch it. Btw. great video once again!
Well since the show relies heavily on WW1 for character development, maybe that could be the reason they choose the 1920s instead of the 1880s. If WW1 took place at the beginning of the 20th century (and they wanted to use WW1 for character development), they couldn't use the 1880s as WW1 didn't start until July of 1914 and ended November of 1918; so having the show take place right after the first world war adds to the character development and tone of the show.
No. I agree with the guy. He explained it making a clearer understanding. The setting had to be changed to accommodate several things obviously. The digging. The hardness and callousness war can bring. But also I think there is an actual instance where Churchill called upon a soldier now civilian to help with criminal activity because of his skills. Who knows maybe he was trying to play one out against another. But l believe the guy was legit and received a medal or award of sorts.
Worth mentioning there’s a few things wrong in this: 1. The writer wasn’t related to any of the gang members, instead his father had told him stories about the Sheldon’s when he was growing up. 2. The Peaky Blinder name came from them wanting to show their quiff of hair. So they’d tip the cap, which would cover their eye (blinding). You referenced Carl Chin, who himself supports this statement (as well as many important historians). 3. The clothing worn by Peaky Blinders was not “tailored” they were in fact poor-lower classed working men. The clothing in their mugshots, was the clothing of the time.
@@annalabs3519 I agree fully. his production and presentation is fantastic. But I feel a little disappointed that he referenced Carl Chinn, who has explained pretty much the whole history of the Peaky Blinders, and then proceeds to tell a different story. I’m not sure where this channel gets it’s information from, but getting stuff so badly wrong in videos that get seen by millions of people is actually negligent. I live in Birmingham, and hearing the wrong stories being told about this is frustrating 😂
DUDE I JUST FINISHED SEASON 6 AND I WAS LIKE: "Man I wish Thoughty2 would make a peaky blinders video." And here it is. You made it. Thanks Thoughty2!! Lol
@@abacus7087 it actually did, you that sceptical to not believe I was recently watching a very popular tv show? Lol I was binging peaky blinders videos after I finished the series and thoughty2 literally uploaded one while I was looking.
@@Prod.J9 because I wanted to know the real history of the peaky blinders and wanted to hear a British guy talk about it and thoughty2 is my favorite RUclipsr who is British and covers history ffs it was an innocent and true comment, y'all can fuck off.
2:17 I remember reading that Billy Kimber was Birmingham based gangster that died of old age. The 1920s make a better historical period due to the post WW1 social upheaval.
Awesome content! As usual. Amazing quality. Kinda find it funny how you uncovered exactly why the writer moved the time frame to the 1900s, and seemingly didn't realize.
I believe the whole premise of it being set in the 1920s is the fact it is straight out of WW1 which is a big part of the Shelby Familys Story and near-enough the basis of why they became who they became. the creator also wanted to finish with a film set in WW2.
LOVE the show, Peaky Blinders and think Cillian Murphy is just BRILLIANT as Tommy Shelby. This video was a real interesting look at the real Peaky Blinders. Say, anyone notice, in the old mugshot that you can see really well at the very end at 15:20, the two guys on the right look like they are twins (and I think they are as they were both born in 1866). They look slightly different around the eyes - so maybe they are fraternal twins. Great video, as usual!
My dad grew up in Smethwick in the 1930’s. he hated the show saying it glorifies thuggery and violence. Everyone was afraid of them and they were not noble at all. My Nana used to call me a “cheeky blinda” in her beautiful brummie accent.
shows glorify alot of things if they didnt it wouldnt be dramatic and keep ratings up what do you want its stated in the show they arent noble men. shows glorify gang violence, rape, assault, the mafia, cartels ect none of which are even close to being as soft as the shows its a show and like any show it might glorify and be a little unrealistic.
@@babiesdontpaytaxes.16 The difference here is my late father and nana- in fact all that side of the family actually lived under the hand terror. I didn’t so I enjoyed the show. My dad watched it through my recommendation and he did not. I grew up with small snippets of stories or cruelty, communist agitators, theft bla bal bla. The peaky blinder script is Bob on. I can hear my uncle Harold now retelling me some story. The only relics are the fine Moore and Wright engineering tools you’d find at any car boot in the midlands. The men and women are gone. The stories remain but the fear passed.
@@rollovaughan yeah I understand your father and nana I wouldn't be so pleased if I watched a show portraying what horrible crimes happened but glorifying it if I actually came into that terror through my life Its aimed at younger men and women but yeah. Also did you say your father grew up in the 30s? thats awesome other than racism sexism alot of that.......they had cool cars though!
After the release of breaking bad, 2 out of every 3 chemistry teachers started making meth. Very true and accurate information. Trust me, I'm an internet man.
I tried explaining while drinking with my Irish friend that they did exist. It didn't go well, because well I was drinking and he wasn't patient enough to let me get to the actual real basis. Fine though, because well I hold my booze better and he passed out at his keyboard, so my huzzah :D I will be sharing this though, because well... I hate when people dismiss me immediately without allowing me time to proper explain.
I agree with that last part but I hate when it takes a sober person 5 mins to get to a point, let alone a someone drunk hahaha that story will take 37mins and ver several times to different topics before getting back to the point
I'm an ENFP, getting to the point not really my thing:/ It is like using Roman Room go to grab the info, and being like ooo that might be relavent I'll bring it along.
While I was looking into my family history/tree ,my daughter bought me a book called the real peaky blinders..in the first few pages I came across a very unusual name ( Garnham). I knew my great grandfather was in the Suffolk regiment in WW1. Strange for a man living n the north east of England. Turns out he was in a peaky blinders affiliated gang in London.
@@SyMchale You raise a good point ☝️ I don't watch a lot of BBC, but everyone and their brother told me that I needed to see it. I rather enjoyed it and I thought the entire thing was fabricated at first... I guess only 75% 🤣
"... the extremely niche list of people who weaponized their hats, alongside Odd Job from Goldfinger and... no, actually, I think that's it" Kung Lao from Mortal Kombat and Robert E.O. Speedwagon from JoJo's Bizzare Adventure would like a word with you. In all seriousness, though, there's a TON of weaponized hats in alternative media.
@@debbiehenri345 Actually, the spike was largely useless as an actual weapon. It was actually better used to deflect sword blows, like a parrying dagger, before they became more ornamental than functional. That said, soldiers using their helmets as improvise bludgeoning weapons has history to it. If you want to go REAL wild, there's Albert Bacon Pratt’s Helmet Gun, which was patented and built but never mass-produced because obvious reasons.
You should make a video on Che Guevara. I’m REALLY mixed on how to feel about that man after hearing the stories. I’ve also seen a couple of documentaries where one was leaning more against him, and the other one seemed like they were making light of him. I feel like an explanation from you would break the tie for me
In the show they actually use the hat to head butt and blind, but more commonly they use the razors in the hat to cut up and take out their eyes. they often say in the show that they “take their eyes”
I wish they would do an Aussie version about the dodgy blokes that just appeared in Australia under different names. My Grandfather was one of those blokes nobody knows much about him or his brothers history.
Fun fact (?/what I’ve been told) police officers in Birmingham remained over 5’10 until 1972, when my 5’7 1/2 dad joined the police cadets and gained the nickname “inch high” or “inchy”. The first of many police nicknames he got lol
I think shifting the time frame to post WW1, makes sense from a writers perspective. WW1 can be used as a reason for character development/damage/history. It's a much better motivation than some bored power hungry youths. Also it steps up the violence level to guns and explosives. Its almost like the writer merged, UK gang history with the rise of the Mafia. Also post WW1 was a turbulent but interesting setting which allowed the writer to link commonly known real events as plot points.
Even though they historically could not have had razor blades in their caps, there are other ways to weaponize your cap. Like sewing some lead into it somewhere. In Italy often used in combination with a knife.
i had to go google what redundant meant, i hadn’t realized in the UK redundant can describe unemployment, i was so confused like how did child labor become excessive if they banned it lol! great video
The hat thing might still be partially true, I’m sure they put blades in the cap. As you said they didn’t produce razors til 1908 and the show takes place from 1918-1934. Well after they started producing razors.
Correct. In the Peaky Timeline, if the Blinders truly did originate shortly before/after WWI, then razor blades would have easily been at their disposal, given the industrial nature of Birmingham. The blades were also low-visibility, so it would serve an important purpose in skirting police surveillance following that first killing of that one constable (assuming most of the timeline would be preserved if shifted like ~30 years from the 1880s to the 1910s). Wouldn't want to be caught with weapons on person if arrested following gang conflicts.
Moreover, in the image above in the police file pictures of The Peaky Blinders, you can see the Born-years, 1885, 1886, 1849, 1866, and he said that they mugshots were when they the "Baby-Face" was caught stealing bicycle, so certainly they were more of a nuisance around 1920s. Hence, the year chosen in the show and the blades (mass produced around 1903) would also be quite easily available and common.
Peaky Blinders also inspired countless memes that have fake tough guy quotes plastered on photos of the main character. People like to share these memes to demonstrate to potential mates that they can't fight or think critically
GREAT PITY you kept waving your hands and arms about like a demented windmill. I began to think you might start flying sometime soon!! Apart from that, a well presented and enjoyable video...and I did get the name of Billy Kimber correct. Thanks again.
Is it just me that realized the cleverness of the Austin Powers movies when Thoughty2 reference "Odd Job" and I remembered a similar character in Austin Powers being called "Random Task"? He threw shoes. "Ow!!!! A shoe? Honestly...who throws a shoe?"
From memory there was at least one gang in Sydney in the early 20th century that used blades in their hats as an iconic weapon, so it had happened in reality, just on the other side of the empire
Used to laugh my head off seeing all the plumbers who still lived at home with their parents suddenly being interested in going to the race after the show came out. Not to mention their brilliant Peaky Blinders costumes.
You answered the question about why the creator of the show shifted the time period. If razors weren't invented untill 1908, the show had to take place in a later time in order for the modified hats to be accurate.
I wish they had more in depth books on them then just articles and short stories I totally fell in love and obsession with Peaky Blinders they need to make a game
Other characters that weaponized their hats -Raiden from "Mortal combat" ,Michael Jackson in the videogame "Michael Jackson's Moonwalker", and Speedwagon from Jojo.
My grandmother was cousin to the Dunn's and my grandfather was affiliated with the other gypsy families featured in the show. The peaky's was more of a blanket term for street gangs and vagabonds in Birmingham, mostly of Irish travelers descent.
The first time I heard "Peaky Blinders" growing up. I initially assumed it represented "someone who committed petty crimes by peaking and sneaking around and looking behind peoples blinds and in their windows of their houses and storage buildings to see what they could steal.." that was just my first thought. I didn't know the slang of the day.
What happened to your podcast on Spotify? I loved saving up weeks of episodes for a long road trip. Had such a trip recently only to discover that I've already listened to them all. I miss it
The arguments I've had with mates and family, about this overrated over exagerated TV show, with fanboys because I've told them the facts you've outlined in this cool video, wich they refuse to acept, you wouldnt believe. I really cant wait to spam share this to show them. One thing you kinda missed. If the razor blades had been invented at the time the Blinders were about, they still would never have been able to aford them. Thanks for the video. o7
You sound like a person who holds their opinion as fact, which is probably why you've caused arguments While you may not have liked the show, many thousands did, so i doubt everyone else is wrong in liking the show and you're right because you know that it's a dramatisation of history Honestly sad that you think that way, opinion is opinion my man
@@samuel.j.barker The thing is, I just explained that it's not real, they didnt have razors and blinding was just slag for looking smart. Thats not an opinion, that is fact. Maybe I didnt explain it well enough. I never cause the arguments. They lead to arguments because they white knight'd on the ficton as if it was real, they took it personal, and became hostile defending the shows honor.
@@PeterH1337 I'm defending ppl's ability to have preference (which you seem to disagree with). Your opinion seems very clearly to be that people are wrong for liking it because it's "not real". Should people not like things simply because they're dramatised versions of real events? Or perhaps it's just that because you yourself didn't think it was good, and so got annoyed at how popular it got and so now are trying to debase it because it's not historically accurate. Either way, it never claimed to be historically accurate or led ppl to think that, it's just a fictional series for ppl to enjoy, or not. Simple
Given the industrial nature of Birmingham and the reach of Kimber's Blinders therein, I don't think it's a stretch to say that razor blades were well within the wealth of the gang. Now, the Sheldons are probably a different story because they weren't as big as the Blinders, but still
The Peaky Blinders were a silly criminal street gang, and now hyped up by a television series. The Billy Boys in Glasgow were an Army, and organised into Brigades and Battalions.
@@Sandi_shores_lands_fish yes but they're also a real gang who magic the gathering really hired to threaten a guy who accidentally got some new releases before they were released
I think you answered the question of why he set the peaky blinders show in the 1920s. Disposable razor blades weren't produced until 1908 and probably took a few more years to become widely available.
Great video! Personally, I absolutely despise anyone like members of any crime gang. The misery they cause is appalling. I find it ridiculous how so many people glorify these evil bas7ards. People actually seem to like people like that, which is weird. I tend to hate murderers lol
Well I dont know about people glorifying evil bastards. Where is an example of this? The point I wanted to make though is that people that end up in gangs, end up there by way of their circumstances. Gang culture is a well studied part of sociology. No child desires to become a criminal, the same way no child wants to grow up to be a drug addict or prostitute. The point being, when someone has fallen through the cracks of society, it isn't one individuals failure. Extreme hardship and desperate circumstances cause these undesirable outcomes in people lives. Its too simple to paint all people with one brush and say "they are bad - I hate them". Plus no compassion will never help anyone.
Says darth donkulous 😂. I don’t think people glorify the crime life, more so the characters and how they persevere to be better and accomplish there goals no matter the odds, the story of the come up, the “from nothing” story will always be glorified because us as human beings can all relate…. If ur gonna despise anyone for murdering it should be world leaders, politicians, tech companies, big farms and other white collar murderers who have been doing it while serving you these distractions to redirect ur frustrations to what u see on the tv! The story clearly shows how the underdog get walked over unless they’re ruthless and willing to do whatever it takes to care for their own!
@@kingReapa Firstly, I don't watch TV. I ain't paying the fuckin BBC money for anything. Secondly, I despise all murderes. If, you have to make peoples lives miserable and be criminal to come up "from nothing" then all you have done is be a complete piece of shit for your own gain. Drug dealers, thieves, murderes, etc are the worst people on the fucking planet, regardless of their origin in life. If you have to be a criminal to get somewhere then you are a failure as a person and a human.
I love how it direclty clashes with recent obsession about Peaky Blinders and posts like "this is how the last of REAL MEN were like" Remember people, you can't call yourself a real man if you weren't beaten into submission by the police
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i feel like tommy shelby in the show rides the line of being as dramatic and badass as possible JUST without going into the cringe territory. he rides the edge of that line so well.
@max payne you know people have different opinions right lol
Most television programs are a bit cringe. It's what the people want, unfortunately.
@@dub537h to some extent, most fiction has to be just for the sake of entertainment,
@fruity granulizer that's true, but its the sake of entertainment for a specific group of people most of the time.
Which isn't a big deal normally, unless things are included like current events or whatever the newest woke definitions are. They never really age well and can make some movies uninteresting to rewatch.
@@dub537h fair
YES!! Thank you! My family is from Birmingham. The show is great but it absolutely kills me that it’s made people think that the peaky blinders are Irish and Liverpudlian. Finally a video that tells the REAL story
Omg the show isn’t pure truth ? ;)
Who thinks it’s Liverpudlian??
Everyone know it’s brummy!
Ayy whas wrong with Irish
@@Nobody................. nothing, but peaky blinders weren't Irish, they were brummies
The reason he set it in the 20’s is because he wanted them to be WWI veterans, which worked very very well for their characters..
Boardwalk empire *INTENSIFIES
I love how the show doesn’t shy away from showing how bad the PTSD was for all the soldiers who survived the war. I have so much more respect for the show creators and writers because of those details
and of course the razor blades already being invented was a nice addition, enabling the writer to add a funky idea to the show 🦕
@@atleastimnotginger it would be more funky if they added modern weapons in the show🦖
@@Buhken That'd ruin it tbh.
I think the show kind of hints that they were a small teenaged gang before they went off to war in the 1910’s but when they came back from war Tommy Shelby had acquired some new skills and a plan to become bigger than just a small gang
I think the time change is just that. Something had to happen to harden these men to give them their courage, bravery, and battle strategy. Giving it the more believability for the rise of Shelby's and the peaky blinders.
Yeah how many times he mention france time and new era and new technique and more income is his everyday motto beside murdering 😂
I'm really impressed with the writer for merging all these real life characters that he was connected to into his own storytelling/writing. When you watch it you really want it to be true and its nice to know that for the most part if not with various variations here and there it almost was. Pity about the timelines being totally different though but that is his choice as the writer and i think that was really well executed in the series. One of the best series ever made imo
My grandmother was a member of the Simpson family , a large family of bareknuckle boxers, sworn enemies of the Peaky Blinders. Most notable was her brother Jack who from his early teens was a bookmaker and had a growing reputation for being handy with his fists. When bookmaking became legal he opened a betting shop in the Birmingham suburb of Weoley Castle.
🤣🤣🤣 im from Weoley Castle... Murphy and Fewtrall were big names, never heard of Simpson lol
So were the peaky blinders actually Romany then, or is that artistic licence?
@@dezzhoudini9046 u heard of the Aston Sloggers?
Bro... The Simpsons is a cartoon, your grandmother was never in it
@@aprilbornheimer4094 You would not be so stupid and insulting if you were near me or any other Brummie with Simpson blood in his veins.
"One of the very first such gangs, were Birmingham's very own Peaky Blinders, who rose to prominence sometime in the early 1880s, rather than in the 1920s, as is suggested in the TV show. Why exactly the series writer and creator Steven Knight chose to shift the timeline a few decades isn't known..."
"In reality, disposable razors hadn't actually been invented when the peaky blinders first appeared on the scene. They weren't produced in the UK until 1908."
It sounds like you just gave yourself a plausible answer to your own question.
The shift was to give them all the ‘disturbed WW1 veteran’ role due to the 1st episode detailing theft of the Lewis guns which weren’t invented until 1911. In actual fact none of the original peaky blinders were veterans of any conflict let alone WW1 but in order to fit the narrative they needed to shift the time line by 30-40 years.
What I said 😂😂😂
Also guns and cars were much mire common in the 20s
Peaky blinders we'rent even a real gang tbf
@@apersona4734 yea they were it’s common knowledge they were a real gang however mainly made up of youths from Victorian era Birmingham.
You can never go wrong with Thoughty2. Good stuff!!
I read your name as Musical Dom and was imagining you making opera songs out of your commands
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First time I watched this and I had never heard of peaky Blinders, show or gang. I so enjoyed this that I subscribed, liked, and hit thàt notification bell so that pesky centipede won't... oops wrong show 😃
just binged the whole series and watched the last episode today. such a brilliant series i was rooting for Tommy the whole way 👏
8:50 I also believe that the hairstyles used in the show were part of the fact that the shelby family had fought in the first world war and shaven sides were quite common rather than going completely bald. Arthurs moustache was also a nod at this because the british soldier believed that the facial hair made them look more proper although they weren't allowed beards just like in modern times so they were able to wear gas masks correctly.
In an interview they said the hairstylist made up the hair cut and nobody really cut their hair that way. And that they all hated it
@@davidrichardson518 they used to shave their hair on the sides just so they could spot parasites and other endoparasitic organisms in their head especially soldiers that served in the first world war.
That one guy in the rows of mug shots looks like Dr Phil lol
@@davidrichardson518 I'd hate myself too if I had to wear that goofy haircut
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE SHOW. So happy that you've made a video on this. This is my FAVORITE TV show by far. The way they speak, their subtle mannerisms, the way the Shelby brothers demand respect and how they showcase their ASTOUNDING FASHION SENSE are just a few of the things that made me LOVE this show. W vid.
Oh yeah? Go watch hell on wheels
The thing is, the way he presents his topics, he could literally make a video titled "why the common grass is so boring" and I'd still watch it to the end.
#doaboringtopic
You’re not the only one!
I would legit be interested
i would also be glued right to the end .
Expecially with Thoughty2 timed sarcasm and the animation images. Solid gold.
Arron: 'Why is Dirt brown?'
Me: yeah alright, what's he got to say.
Thomas Shelby is one of the greatest character in the film industry. The last season was so good,a great ending for the Shelby's
It is not exactly the conclusion of the series, since we have a movie coming
It was the worst series of all Peaky Blinders.
The last episode was good, others were rubbish
@@redevil2095 your opinion is factually incorrect, it was a spectacular series that was very well acted, directed and scripted and it was just masterfully done in general
@@kostas2856 except for the woke nonsense.
@@TheRatlord74 How was it woke?
It’s definitely known. Tommy’s war experience plays a huge part in his development so they pushed the show to just after WW I so they could use that
Real life billy kimber fought in the war, he was already gangster before the war.
Razor blades in their caps was first mentioned in a book 'A Walk Down Summer lane' by Birmingham-born author, John Douglas. He admitted that he made the razors in caps story up to spice things up a little. It seems that whoever wrote the storylines for Peaky Blinders must have read his book.
Great video as always. I love the Peaky Blinders and have seen all seasons, making me appreciate the true narrative of their story even more.
Shelby is byfar the best character on the show, full of smoke energy. I'm surprised someone actually told the actual real story
@vincent overy alfie's the best!
I've watched the BBC's presentation of the "real peaky blinders" and have to say yours was straight to the point and more engaging. Nice one
As an American I didn't know so much of this info. So some of these characters were based on actual people? The cop and Kimber. Wow.
Great video. Thanks for the info! Peaky Blinders became my favorite series when two months ago I watched every episode within a week and a half
Aren't you israeli?
@@Itamar536. reread my original post and tell me if I am Israeli.
Pretty sure I wrote "As an American". Usually only someone who is American would only say such. If you took the two braincells you have left, and used them, I'd think it's pretty reasonable to assume I'm an American who knows a second language.
Never watched it but knew there was real history behind it. Thank you for making this video!
Seeing this video on my home page made me realize that I haven't checked when the final season will air in a while.. Turns out it's already aired and is arriving on Netflix Friday next week! I've been sitting on the final episode of season 5 for over two years now, I guess it's finally time to watch it.
Btw. great video once again!
Well since the show relies heavily on WW1 for character development, maybe that could be the reason they choose the 1920s instead of the 1880s. If WW1 took place at the beginning of the 20th century (and they wanted to use WW1 for character development), they couldn't use the 1880s as WW1 didn't start until July of 1914 and ended November of 1918; so having the show take place right after the first world war adds to the character development and tone of the show.
Thank you for telling us when World War I took place 🤓
great observation!
No. I agree with the guy. He explained it making a clearer understanding. The setting had to be changed to accommodate several things obviously. The digging. The hardness and callousness war can bring. But also I think there is an actual instance where Churchill called upon a soldier now civilian to help with criminal activity because of his skills. Who knows maybe he was trying to play one out against another. But l believe the guy was legit and received a medal or award of sorts.
When you have to write an essay of 400 and youre only at 320
@@ismarwinkelman5648 You'd be surprised how many people don't know our history. I was just throwing it out there as you never know who is reading.
Worth mentioning there’s a few things wrong in this:
1. The writer wasn’t related to any of the gang members, instead his father had told him stories about the Sheldon’s when he was growing up.
2. The Peaky Blinder name came from them wanting to show their quiff of hair. So they’d tip the cap, which would cover their eye (blinding). You referenced Carl Chin, who himself supports this statement (as well as many important historians).
3. The clothing worn by Peaky Blinders was not “tailored” they were in fact poor-lower classed working men. The clothing in their mugshots, was the clothing of the time.
In other videos he has gotten info wrong and he never seems to say anything about it I like his videos but not entirely accurate
@@annalabs3519 I agree fully. his production and presentation is fantastic. But I feel a little disappointed that he referenced Carl Chinn, who has explained pretty much the whole history of the Peaky Blinders, and then proceeds to tell a different story. I’m not sure where this channel gets it’s information from, but getting stuff so badly wrong in videos that get seen by millions of people is actually negligent.
I live in Birmingham, and hearing the wrong stories being told about this is frustrating 😂
Even worse, he neglected the weaponized hat of John Steed
You are very correct. The area next to Small Heath is called "Sheldon"
Born and bought up in Tyseley next to Small Heath
You have to remember they weren't even a real gang 🤣
Been a while since I've watched a video of yours. I picked this one and it was great. I will be catching up.on your videos. Well done as always!
First time I've watched you. Great job! I really enjoyed this. I've read a little about the PB but learned a lot from you.
DUDE I JUST FINISHED SEASON 6 AND I WAS LIKE: "Man I wish Thoughty2 would make a peaky blinders video."
And here it is. You made it. Thanks Thoughty2!! Lol
yh that just didn't happen did it
Y’all were on the same wavelength or something 😨😂
@@abacus7087 it actually did, you that sceptical to not believe I was recently watching a very popular tv show? Lol I was binging peaky blinders videos after I finished the series and thoughty2 literally uploaded one while I was looking.
@@InSeshion Why would you finish a series and your first thought be "I really hope thoughty2 makes a video about this"
@@Prod.J9 because I wanted to know the real history of the peaky blinders and wanted to hear a British guy talk about it and thoughty2 is my favorite RUclipsr who is British and covers history ffs it was an innocent and true comment, y'all can fuck off.
just found ur channel and have been binging it for a week. keep up the great content!
2:17 I remember reading that Billy Kimber was Birmingham based gangster that died of old age.
The 1920s make a better historical period due to the post WW1 social upheaval.
Awesome content! As usual. Amazing quality.
Kinda find it funny how you uncovered exactly why the writer moved the time frame to the 1900s, and seemingly didn't realize.
Borderline is that the show is an absolute masterpiece, a (probably) timeless piece of cinematography.
Hopefully we see more shows of its caliber.
Youre joking right
@@cringystingy8025 no
He's right
@@WARxDANCER nah most of the people that watch this cringe fest are easily pleased
I believe the whole premise of it being set in the 1920s is the fact it is straight out of WW1 which is a big part of the Shelby Familys Story and near-enough the basis of why they became who they became.
the creator also wanted to finish with a film set in WW2.
The razors in the caps of the peaky blinders were invented in 1908. Which would partly explain the time shift too.
They still have the film planned
@@arsenalfan1515 I came here to see if anyone caught onto that 😂
It aired in 13' now picking it up years later, and my God I'm gonna binge it soon
LOVE the show, Peaky Blinders and think Cillian Murphy is just BRILLIANT as Tommy Shelby. This video was a real interesting look at the real Peaky Blinders. Say, anyone notice, in the old mugshot that you can see really well at the very end at 15:20, the two guys on the right look like they are twins (and I think they are as they were both born in 1866). They look slightly different around the eyes - so maybe they are fraternal twins. Great video, as usual!
Great video! And FYI, I am on season 2 and he didn’t spoil any of the show. Definitely worth a watch!
My dad grew up in Smethwick in the 1930’s. he hated the show saying it glorifies thuggery and violence.
Everyone was afraid of them and they were not noble at all.
My Nana used to call me a “cheeky blinda” in her beautiful brummie accent.
Well said, my thoughts too…
shows glorify alot of things if they didnt it wouldnt be dramatic and keep ratings up what do you want its stated in the show they arent noble men. shows glorify gang violence, rape, assault, the mafia, cartels ect none of which are even close to being as soft as the shows its a show and like any show it might glorify and be a little unrealistic.
@@babiesdontpaytaxes.16
The difference here is my late father and nana- in fact all that side of the family actually lived under the hand terror.
I didn’t so I enjoyed the show.
My dad watched it through my recommendation and he did not.
I grew up with small snippets of stories or cruelty, communist agitators, theft bla bal bla. The peaky blinder script is Bob on. I can hear my uncle Harold now retelling me some story.
The only relics are the fine Moore and Wright engineering tools you’d find at any car boot in the midlands. The men and women are gone. The stories remain but the fear passed.
@@rollovaughan yeah I understand your father and nana I wouldn't be so pleased if I watched a show portraying what horrible crimes happened but glorifying it if I actually came into that terror through my life Its aimed at younger men and women but yeah. Also did you say your father grew up in the 30s? thats awesome other than racism sexism alot of that.......they had cool cars though!
@@babiesdontpaytaxes.16 I mean very little ethnic minorities lived in Britain so stop pretending it was some massive issue.
Odd Job and thats it?
Speedwagon: "Am I a joke to you?"
This is a certified British classic.
After the release of breaking bad, 2 out of every 3 chemistry teachers started making meth. Very true and accurate information. Trust me, I'm an internet man.
always trust the internet man .
can you explain further kind sir? cause I can't find any articles about this information.
@@rexxy2409 teachers don't get paid, people who make meth do. Simple thought process, no articles needed.
@@rexxy2409 satire my good sir
I had bad news, all chemistry teachers cook meth now.
Thanks, #42. Both for the real information, being really interesting, and a chance to go discover Milanote! You're good to us!
I've been missing thoughty2 videos for months now!!!...I'm bank to binge watch😅🔥✊
I tried explaining while drinking with my Irish friend that they did exist. It didn't go well, because well I was drinking and he wasn't patient enough to let me get to the actual real basis. Fine though, because well I hold my booze better and he passed out at his keyboard, so my huzzah :D I will be sharing this though, because well... I hate when people dismiss me immediately without allowing me time to proper explain.
I agree with that last part but I hate when it takes a sober person 5 mins to get to a point, let alone a someone drunk hahaha that story will take 37mins and ver several times to different topics before getting back to the point
I'm an ENFP, getting to the point not really my thing:/ It is like using Roman Room go to grab the info, and being like ooo that might be relavent I'll bring it along.
ok buddy
Well, if people do that it means they don't WANT to listen to you, and you just ramble on for your own sake.
While I was looking into my family history/tree ,my daughter bought me a book called the real peaky blinders..in the first few pages I came across a very unusual name ( Garnham).
I knew my great grandfather was in the Suffolk regiment in WW1. Strange for a man living n the north east of England.
Turns out he was in a peaky blinders affiliated gang in London.
Cringe
@@Ripa-Moramee you fanny
@@Ripa-Moramee ???
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@@Ripa-Moramee ?
@S_ynze more like your pfp is cringe, and making fun of someone's family is Rietarded
That was really good! I didn't realize so many liberties were taken with the show 😳
Given it's a BBC production I'm surprised there weren't more liberties taken
@@SyMchale You raise a good point ☝️ I don't watch a lot of BBC, but everyone and their brother told me that I needed to see it. I rather enjoyed it and I thought the entire thing was fabricated at first... I guess only 75% 🤣
@@Vectorcollapse lol don't worry, it's the only thing I've watched on the BBC since 2016, and same fully enjoyed it 🙌
I subbed to this Chanel years ago in high school as a curiosity, I love what happened while I was away!
7:20 what about good old Speedwagon’s helicopter blade hat. A true classic.
As non-factual as the show is. I quite love peaky blinders. Been really glued to it the last few months.
"... the extremely niche list of people who weaponized their hats, alongside Odd Job from Goldfinger and... no, actually, I think that's it"
Kung Lao from Mortal Kombat and Robert E.O. Speedwagon from JoJo's Bizzare Adventure would like a word with you.
In all seriousness, though, there's a TON of weaponized hats in alternative media.
Not forgetting the Pickelhaube, of course!
A real life weaponized hat if ever there was one!
@@debbiehenri345
Actually, the spike was largely useless as an actual weapon. It was actually better used to deflect sword blows, like a parrying dagger, before they became more ornamental than functional. That said, soldiers using their helmets as improvise bludgeoning weapons has history to it.
If you want to go REAL wild, there's Albert Bacon Pratt’s Helmet Gun, which was patented and built but never mass-produced because obvious reasons.
You should make a video on Che Guevara. I’m REALLY mixed on how to feel about that man after hearing the stories. I’ve also seen a couple of documentaries where one was leaning more against him, and the other one seemed like they were making light of him. I feel like an explanation from you would break the tie for me
He was a communist and a murderer
Mixed? He was a thug and a murderer.
You should probably do your own research because it will be hard to find an unbiased video about him.
@@aspolleen452 I guess in the end you’re pretty much right about that. Lol
@@deadboy3646 he was a murderer that's a fact
Cant believe that you missed out Kung Lao from Mortal Kombat on the "List of People who Weaponised Thier Hats" lol
Another excellent episode 🎉🎉🎉
It's always cool too see the real history behind some of the shows. Can't wait for season 6.
It’s been out
Season 6 has been out since February
Came out on Netflix June 10th, which is where I watched it.
In the show they actually use the hat to head butt and blind, but more commonly they use the razors in the hat to cut up and take out their eyes. they often say in the show that they “take their eyes”
I wish they would do an Aussie version about the dodgy blokes that just appeared in Australia under different names.
My Grandfather was one of those blokes nobody knows much about him or his brothers history.
orphan train ties possibly?
Australia was originally a prison colony for the british..
@@lifeisa.smalllesson333 yeah but not in the OP's grandfather's time.
@@omnomshibob roger.. what's OP mean?
@@lifeisa.smalllesson333 Original Poster. The person who left the first comment that started this thread.
I'm really digging the look. The even trimmed 5 o'clock shadow.
Absolutely love the vid and how it was presented.
Fun fact (?/what I’ve been told) police officers in Birmingham remained over 5’10 until 1972, when my 5’7 1/2 dad joined the police cadets and gained the nickname “inch high” or “inchy”. The first of many police nicknames he got lol
I must say that the show brought back the peak cap for me; something that my grandfather wore, yet something I wouldn’t have considered until now.
I think shifting the time frame to post WW1, makes sense from a writers perspective.
WW1 can be used as a reason for character development/damage/history. It's a much better motivation than some bored power hungry youths. Also it steps up the violence level to guns and explosives.
Its almost like the writer merged, UK gang history with the rise of the Mafia.
Also post WW1 was a turbulent but interesting setting which allowed the writer to link commonly known real events as plot points.
Awesome as usual, thank you Thoughty2.
@the beginning part It's so true, though 😂😂 and every man has a flat cap now 😂
Even though they historically could not have had razor blades in their caps, there are other ways to weaponize your cap. Like sewing some lead into it somewhere. In Italy often used in combination with a knife.
i had to go google what redundant meant, i hadn’t realized in the UK redundant can describe unemployment, i was so confused like how did child labor become excessive if they banned it lol! great video
Yeah, in the UK being made redundant = you're fired.
Fired through no fault of your own
Redundant doesn't mean excessive mate
@@alexsm3882 yes it does in America
@@calebblaise6648.
The hat thing might still be partially true, I’m sure they put blades in the cap. As you said they didn’t produce razors til 1908 and the show takes place from 1918-1934. Well after they started producing razors.
Correct.
In the Peaky Timeline, if the Blinders truly did originate shortly before/after WWI, then razor blades would have easily been at their disposal, given the industrial nature of Birmingham.
The blades were also low-visibility, so it would serve an important purpose in skirting police surveillance following that first killing of that one constable (assuming most of the timeline would be preserved if shifted like ~30 years from the 1880s to the 1910s). Wouldn't want to be caught with weapons on person if arrested following gang conflicts.
Moreover, in the image above in the police file pictures of The Peaky Blinders, you can see the Born-years, 1885, 1886, 1849, 1866, and he said that they mugshots were when they the "Baby-Face" was caught stealing bicycle, so certainly they were more of a nuisance around 1920s. Hence, the year chosen in the show and the blades (mass produced around 1903) would also be quite easily available and common.
Great video man! Really enjoyed learning the true history behind it all.
for years you been the best forty two
we love you
Peaky Blinders also inspired countless memes that have fake tough guy quotes plastered on photos of the main character. People like to share these memes to demonstrate to potential mates that they can't fight or think critically
You nailed it. 👍
GREAT PITY you kept waving your hands and arms about like a demented windmill. I began to think you might start flying sometime soon!!
Apart from that, a well presented and enjoyable video...and I did get the name of Billy Kimber correct. Thanks again.
Holy shit! That one gangster who became the rival of the Peaky Blinders looks EX-FRIGGING-ACTLY like Dr. Phil!
I new Phil was a time lord vampire.....
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ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs👌,,,,...
That was the first thing I said when I saw his picture!!
Is it just me that realized the cleverness of the Austin Powers movies when Thoughty2 reference "Odd Job" and I remembered a similar character in Austin Powers being called "Random Task"? He threw shoes.
"Ow!!!! A shoe? Honestly...who throws a shoe?"
Thank you for the vid. 😌
We're talking about blades in hats and he didn't even mention Speedwagon
Don’t forget that Kung Lao from Mortal Kombat also weaponized his hat! 🤣
From memory there was at least one gang in Sydney in the early 20th century that used blades in their hats as an iconic weapon, so it had happened in reality, just on the other side of the empire
Great Job mate.
7:38 what about that british guy from jojo? he had a blade brimed top hat or bowler hat or something
Used to laugh my head off seeing all the plumbers who still lived at home with their parents suddenly being interested in going to the race after the show came out. Not to mention their brilliant Peaky Blinders costumes.
Stealing a bicycle back then is like stealing a car today . Considering that bicycles where very rare
You answered the question about why the creator of the show shifted the time period. If razors weren't invented untill 1908, the show had to take place in a later time in order for the modified hats to be accurate.
Great vid as always
Recently seeing Peaky blinders season 6, And it's pretty good so far, cool to know their real inspiration and origin!.
I feel "!." was an odd choice
Where does it stream?
@@wyattm.b.3622 Netflix US and Canada.
So even tho it's based on the UK but not on the uks Netflix??
I wish they had more in depth books on them then just articles and short stories I totally fell in love and obsession with Peaky Blinders they need to make a game
☎ᴛᵉˣţ𝄍✉𝑾𝒉𝔮ᴛᵗ𝑠𝑨𝑝𝑝 ᴍs ᴋᴀᴛʜʀʏɴ ʟɪɴᴄᴋ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴏɴᴛᴀᴄᴛ ɪɴғᴏʀᴍᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ✚𝟏𝟗𝟓𝟏𝟐𝟐𝟔𝟓𝟏𝟑𝟔✔
ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs👌..,,,,,,
Report 👆🏿
They are releasing a peaky blinders game on The Oculus/ Meta Quest 2 soon 👍
Assassin's creed syndicate
By the order of the peaky blinders, I declare this video educative
Love the vid! Always do. One small correction…you forgot about Raiden from MK. He weaponized his hat. Lol
Other characters that weaponized their hats -Raiden from "Mortal combat" ,Michael Jackson in the videogame "Michael Jackson's Moonwalker", and Speedwagon from Jojo.
Breaking Bad was so popular they made meth a real thing
My grandmother was cousin to the Dunn's and my grandfather was affiliated with the other gypsy families featured in the show.
The peaky's was more of a blanket term for street gangs and vagabonds in Birmingham, mostly of Irish travelers descent.
Glad to see at least one person knows what they're talking about
The first time I heard "Peaky Blinders" growing up. I initially assumed it represented "someone who committed petty crimes by peaking and sneaking around and looking behind peoples blinds and in their windows of their houses and storage buildings to see what they could steal.." that was just my first thought. I didn't know the slang of the day.
This is nuts how much of the show is routed in actual true stories wtf
What happened to your podcast on Spotify? I loved saving up weeks of episodes for a long road trip. Had such a trip recently only to discover that I've already listened to them all. I miss it
dont just ignore Robert E.O. Speedwagon's razor blade hat.
The arguments I've had with mates and family, about this overrated over exagerated TV show, with fanboys because I've told them the facts you've outlined in this cool video, wich they refuse to acept, you wouldnt believe. I really cant wait to spam share this to show them. One thing you kinda missed. If the razor blades had been invented at the time the Blinders were about, they still would never have been able to aford them. Thanks for the video. o7
You sound like a person who holds their opinion as fact, which is probably why you've caused arguments
While you may not have liked the show, many thousands did, so i doubt everyone else is wrong in liking the show and you're right because you know that it's a dramatisation of history
Honestly sad that you think that way, opinion is opinion my man
@@samuel.j.barker The thing is, I just explained that it's not real, they didnt have razors and blinding was just slag for looking smart. Thats not an opinion, that is fact. Maybe I didnt explain it well enough. I never cause the arguments. They lead to arguments because they white knight'd on the ficton as if it was real, they took it personal, and became hostile defending the shows honor.
@@PeterH1337 I'm defending ppl's ability to have preference (which you seem to disagree with).
Your opinion seems very clearly to be that people are wrong for liking it because it's "not real".
Should people not like things simply because they're dramatised versions of real events? Or perhaps it's just that because you yourself didn't think it was good, and so got annoyed at how popular it got and so now are trying to debase it because it's not historically accurate.
Either way, it never claimed to be historically accurate or led ppl to think that, it's just a fictional series for ppl to enjoy, or not. Simple
Given the industrial nature of Birmingham and the reach of Kimber's Blinders therein, I don't think it's a stretch to say that razor blades were well within the wealth of the gang.
Now, the Sheldons are probably a different story because they weren't as big as the Blinders, but still
The Peaky Blinders were a silly criminal street gang, and now hyped up by a television series. The Billy Boys in Glasgow were an Army, and organised into Brigades and Battalions.
I haven't started watching yet .. is this about those Pinkerton's and their trading cards fiascos hahaha
Isn't pinkerton from madam butterfly?
@@Sandi_shores_lands_fish yes but they're also a real gang who magic the gathering really hired to threaten a guy who accidentally got some new releases before they were released
@@ryanhorton607 ah yes the old releasing problem, I always release one before going on a date to be released.. if you know what i mean
I think you answered the question of why he set the peaky blinders show in the 1920s.
Disposable razor blades weren't produced until 1908 and probably took a few more years to become widely available.
Great video!
Personally, I absolutely despise anyone like members of any crime gang. The misery they cause is appalling. I find it ridiculous how so many people glorify these evil bas7ards. People actually seem to like people like that, which is weird. I tend to hate murderers lol
Well I dont know about people glorifying evil bastards. Where is an example of this?
The point I wanted to make though is that people that end up in gangs, end up there by way of their circumstances. Gang culture is a well studied part of sociology.
No child desires to become a criminal, the same way no child wants to grow up to be a drug addict or prostitute. The point being, when someone has fallen through the cracks of society, it isn't one individuals failure. Extreme hardship and desperate circumstances cause these undesirable outcomes in people lives. Its too simple to paint all people with one brush and say "they are bad - I hate them". Plus no compassion will never help anyone.
@@NowhereMan7 Muderers do not deserve compassion. If you think they do, you're wrong in the head.
Says darth donkulous 😂. I don’t think people glorify the crime life, more so the characters and how they persevere to be better and accomplish there goals no matter the odds, the story of the come up, the “from nothing” story will always be glorified because us as human beings can all relate…. If ur gonna despise anyone for murdering it should be world leaders, politicians, tech companies, big farms and other white collar murderers who have been doing it while serving you these distractions to redirect ur frustrations to what u see on the tv! The story clearly shows how the underdog get walked over unless they’re ruthless and willing to do whatever it takes to care for their own!
@@kingReapa Firstly, I don't watch TV. I ain't paying the fuckin BBC money for anything. Secondly, I despise all murderes. If, you have to make peoples lives miserable and be criminal to come up "from nothing" then all you have done is be a complete piece of shit for your own gain. Drug dealers, thieves, murderes, etc are the worst people on the fucking planet, regardless of their origin in life. If you have to be a criminal to get somewhere then you are a failure as a person and a human.
I love how it direclty clashes with recent obsession about Peaky Blinders and posts like "this is how the last of REAL MEN were like"
Remember people, you can't call yourself a real man if you weren't beaten into submission by the police
Great background information! Thanks for that.
I live in cannock which is down the road from birmingham, we are taught the story all the time, well told!
Thanks for some very interesting history. Very enjoyable.