I am from Mongolia and visited Inner Mongolia, actually we can fully understand each other and the dialects are more than 95% intelligible I would say.
Afrodisiac They are fully mongolian speaking. If they spoke manadrin,or any other chinese langauge,the region would not be called Inner Mongolia. (Chinese languages are probably second languages
@@8bitgubben the hans Chinese there have lived there for a very long time. Since Mongolian was the primary language. So no shit they would have picked up the language and started speaking the language of the majority initially and then it would have remained that way as Chinese languages would have started dying out in the region during that initial period of migration among those han people's.
@@botchamaniajeezus That's not accurate, Taiwan recognizes both Mongolia and South Korea as independent countries (though they don't recognize North Korea, instead recognizing South Korean sovereignty over the whole peninsula).
@@peterwong5993 North America & South America are together considered as a single continent of America in many countries like the ones in Europe & Latin America.
Great Britain is the Eastern island and Ireland is the western island. There is no Ireland in great Britain and no great britain in Ireland. There is however a part of Ireland in the United Kingdom
There is also a Jewish Autonomy in Russia that borders with China... actually, Chinese city Harbin, although carrying a Manchu name, was originally built by Russian Jews... who were rich bankers of course
'Khaan', not 'khæn'. Mongolian is not like Arabic, the vowel sound for "a" is plain like the British 'ah', not like the Semitic 'alif'. Anyhow, good video!
However, it is ironic that Mongolia was influenced by the Soviet Union in its early years and has adopted Cyrillic for many years. Inner Mongolia, China is the only region in the world where traditional Mongolian is used.
@@Muesto123 Trump has at least one correct statement: Fake News! After all, he is a true businessman who is much better than the other fake gentleman. Even the former president doesn't believe the western media, why do you still trust it?
@@Muesto123 i wouldn’t say nobody, tho it is semi endangered as younger generations are being grown up in cities rather than rural areas and therefore speak chinese.
@@Muesto123 i doubt that. Mongolian will still speak Mongolian to Mongolians. Mandarin is a language for official use just like English is for Americans. Minorities still speak their own languages.
It's not hard to understand each other. We can understand each other pretty well. The issue is in terminology. While we in Mongolia named modern terms with Russian words, English words or just invent a new term, those in Inner Mongolia seem to use direct translation of Chinese terms. Otherwise we can understand each other pretty well. I do however, have harder time to understad spoken Buryat or spoken Kalmyk because they learn their mother language as a second language. What I mean is most Buryat and Kalmyk children learn to speak Russian before they learn to speak Mongolian. So they end up sounding like Russians speaking Mongolian. The situation of Mongols before Qing dynasty is very complicated. Many Mongolians assume that back then all Mongols lived under one state. But the truth is it was similar to the Holy Roman Empire - nominally the elected Khan ruled over everyone. But in practice the elected Khan directly controlled only his own subjects and territory while his subject Khans, Taishis, Jinongs and Princes ruled over their subjects and territories independently. And they also had independent policies. To the extreme east was the tribe Khorchin, they allied themselves with the Manchus earliest. In fact, the grandmother of the Kangxi emperor was a Khorchin princess. While the Chakhars, subjects of the last elected Khan, they lived closest to Ming China and allied with the Ming and fought against the Manchus and Khorchin. The other Mongol domains - the Tumed, the Khalkhas, the Oirats, the Khoshuuds didn't give a shit and fought among themselves for religious reasons. The Tumed had one of the Dalai Lamas selected from their royal line, but he was assassinated. The Khalkhas disagreed with Khoshuuds over which way is the proper way to reach nirvana in Tibetan Buddhism and therefore wanted to control Tibet so as to put their own candidates as the religious head of Buddhism. Consequently they fought, the Khoshuuds won, migrated into Tibet and solidified the Dalai Lama as the religious head, the Khalkhas lost and were pushed North. The Oirats were probably looking at them and wondering what all the action was about and probably decided to attacked the weaker opponent, the Khalkhas. The Khalkhas apparently saw the Russians expanding into Baikal and Zabaikalsk and tried to forestall them before being utterly smashed by the Oirats and ran to the newly established and consolidated Qing dynsaty for protection. The Qing saw this as an excellent way to gain new vassals, their territories and elite cavalry troops. And they happily sent a massive army and destroyed the Oirat invasion to Khalkha territories. And then after ~60 years they sent another great army fight the Oirats. This time to completely destroy them and take their lands. And ~20 years since then, another army was sent to Tibet to push out the Khoshuuds. There brief and too oversimplified, but I think I got most of it in.
Yes, please, more East Asian history. Both Mongol support for the USSR during WWII and the life of Baron Ungern-Sternberg would be amazing. I find the recent civil wars in Russia and later in China to be fascinating. Probably because of some of their similarities with the Spanish civil war (conservative, upper classes vs leftist, lower classes; both extreme in their own way). Several white Russian families ended up settling down in Spain after WWII (because of the Franco regime and whatnot) such as the Bagrations and their descendants are still living there to this day. It is also very interesting how many of the Imperial Russian high commands were of germanic descent (e.g. Ungern-Sternberg or Wittgenstein). Btw, several years ago, when I lived in Beijing, I attended a small live concert by a Mongolian folk band called Hanggai in a small dark bar near the Drum and Bell Tower (an older neighborhood in Beijing). The band played a typical drinking song that kept getting faster and faster while the crowd slammed their beer mugs against the wooden tables and drank at unison. Priceless
yeung charlie I meant white Russian as in the emigres who left Russia after the Bolshevik revolution, it is not an ethnic or racial term. Baron Ungern- Sternverg who Hilbert mentions in this video was of Germanic descent, but he is also considered a White Russian. As subjects of imperial Russia I think the Bagrations qualify as White Russians, but I could be wrong. White emigre is probably a better term to avoid confusion
@@belfigue The Mongols invited Xu shuzheng and took a photo together. But Mongols cheated on Xu shuzheng. Mongols love to hunt. The Mongols invited the xu shuzheng to hunt. Because during the China-Mongols war in 1911, white Russian ordered Mongols to remove their troops from the Chinese land. Mongols haven't been hunting for long. They wanted to enjoy hunting. Mongols were crazy murders and blood lovers. You will see Xu Shuzheng and Mongolian lords in this picture. ruclips.net/user/redirect?redir_token=ce2pJ8K4NzH_fyl2i0B6ed95-3l8MTU4MjYwODIzM0AxNTgyNTIxODMz&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Di%26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fcommons.wikimedia.org%252Fwiki%252FFile%253AXu_Shuzheng_and_Mongolian_Noyons_in_Kh%2525C3%2525BCree.png%26psig%3DAOvVaw1Uip03jYriBmEoKURAldsu%26ust%3D1582606917894000%26source%3Dimages%26cd%3Dvfe%26ved%3D2ahUKEwiExsaqtOnnAhUD7ZQKHQghDJ0Qr4kDegUIARDHAQ&stzid=UgwBx_cG8zF1JV_to6B4AaABAg.95EaUBMeU4l95PUTSOR4ky&event=comments
Also it is worth noting that there was also an Inner and Outer Manchuria. Inner Manchuria is still in China whilst Outer Manchuria north of the Amur River is in Russia. It was where Qing Dynasty 1644-1911 came from. Due to the weakness of the Qing the Russians annexed the Qing territories north of the Amur.
The reason western can't figured China well is they don't know the Chinese is not a term describe a race but the people shared same culture background. Like myself, my grandparents on my mother side are Manchus and Han and on my father side are Mongol and Han. Should I judge myself as manchu ? Mongol ? or Han (funny fact is the race presented on my official document is determined by a dice - govt ask my parents decide which race of me and they rolled a dice). However, under a uniform Chinese identity is much easier for me. All of the people no matter race who admitted the Chinese culture can introduce them self as Chinese ( Another fact, did you know there is a Russian race of Chinese).
@Mustafa Alam Mongolia was too weak. Less then 1 or 2 million population. So USSR wont let them fight in front line. But Mongolia had been sending supports all they can. And Mongolia is allied with USSR so called into war.
Mustafa Alam they did,even in inner mongolia. thats why people in inner mongolia want freedom from the chinese communists. Mongolia and Inner Mongolia need to unite to fully create a mongol population
7:50 - “The latter part of the 19th the Qing Empire was facing some some real problems”... losing two ‘Opium’ Wars warranted a mention, but not the Taiping Rebellion? The wars with Europeans were limited engagements regarding trading privileges - casualties estimated between 5-10 thousand. The Taiping Rebellion was a fight for the very survival of the Qing Empire with casualty estimates between 10-30 million.
Scott Fair enough actually, I don’t script the videos but that likely did warrant a mention. If I recall one of the images i use depicts a battle from the Taiping Rebellion.
taiping rebelión is the results of the lost of first opium war....in the past the export port is only canton.therefore all the manufacturing is there .they have around 20million working on exporting goods..after the opium war.china was forced to open 5 more gate.thus many of this trade 80% moved to east city thus 10 million people lost their job.when the employ rate drop...so will the people became desparit and create their own extreme idea and ideology to destroy everything...
@R. V. Datmir China casualties never compare well to anywhere else in the world. Some country's rebellion may kill a couple hundred thousand and china's still sitting there like "oh, we lost 30 million". Kinda amusing in a morbid way.
compare to someone could attack your capital, only 10-30 million people in the marginal area is not that important. China had 400 millions people in late 1800s
I have seen many comments trying to correct his pronunciation of Genghis Khan. Be nice, guys. He is just a foreigner. He didn't pronounce even one single Chinese name correctly. But I just don't see any complaint. To tell the truth, I rarely see any westerner who can pronounce even one Chinese word in a proper way , and they are mocking the Chinese accent.....
The Inner Mongolia was already like a province in Manchu's Qing Dynasty. Their governers were appointed by Beijing, v.s. "Outer" Mongolia had hereditary tribal heads. Also during the Chinese civil war, the Inner Mongolians were aligned with the communists and drove out a lot of farming settlers and got back their land for herding. (The settlers were mostly aligned with KMT that eventually lost.)
@@sb25045 Actually, the Jianzhou Jurchens (which Nurhaci belonged to) were mostly settled farmers who farmed wheat, barley, buckwheat and reared pigs. The other Jurchen groups further to the north, like the Mohe Jurchens, relied more on hunting and fishing in the rivers like the Amur (Heilongjiang) and Songhua. Manchuria was mostly forested, so not that conducive for pastoral life like the Mongolian grasslands.
I lived in Hohhot Inner Mongolia. Amazing town with beautiful weather and really good food. Also mountains and tundra :) Not all like the big cities in china.
-The Bogd khaan had been preparing for independence for decades at this point. They had the fresh memory of centuries of oppression, removal of autonomy and attempted integration via Han colonization and military helped light the spark. -The original document atleast for Outer Mongolia made it clear to only refer to the Qing dynasty exclusively so in addition to an opportunity Mongolian independence was directly justified by the same document which ended it. -While I can see why you say the under influence of. The Russian and Chinese “control” was mostly nominal or soft influence, it wasn’t until the Japanese supported military occupation in 1919that the Chinese took control. -Your missing the five path war were a small elite expedition of 7k cavalry was sent to retake Southern Mongolia. Though they were eventually pushed back they after several back in forth attacks and the Russians siding with the Chinese they managed to push all the way to the Great wall against a somewhat united China as well. -There were many uprisings in Southern Mongolia and many joined their Northern brothers in arms. -Fun fact for the referendum they literally just went around rounded people up and made a show of hands -The Peoples revolution as it’s called was in 1921 not 1924 -Due to the Bogd khaan’s huge popularity even in the MAN(Mongolian Peoples party) and the MAN still retaining many centre-left individuals the Bogd khaan not only acted as a bulwark against Soviet influence up until his death but Mongolia was history’s only nominally communist technically theocratic socialist constitutional monarchist peoples republic. -There were many attempted counter revolutions while unsuccessful caused the MAN to remove the more extreme elements reverse harmful policies and return to more liberal centre left proponents and economic models. Though wildly successful these would be short lived -I wouldn’t say it’s that unintelligible we can communicate effectively -Fun fact the MAN would initially tried to popularize the latin alphabet but despite zealous efforts this did not pan out.
You didn’t mention at that time China was divided by warlords. I will say China was on civil war at that period of time. That is why the Mongolia can be separated from China. And Stalin asked USA and UK to consent to Mongolia to maintain its status quo after the war. That is why CCP didn’t take Mongolia back after winning the civil war.
"They had the fresh memory of centuries of oppression, removal of autonomy and attempted integration via Han colonization" This sentence is simply wrong. It is Manchus not Han people conqered Mongolia around 1600s. Manchus is a tribe used be submit to Genghis Han. Manchus language is much different from Han's. For almost a thousand years, Han people could not defeat the ruling regime in the Mongolia area. Han regime kneeled to those tribes and paid a lot of gold to them.
Most of the troops sent to fight Bogd khaan were Mongolian or led by Mongolian officers (warlord era). Do remember that when the Qing collapsed provinces that were under Imperial control turned to warlords as the Republic of China had no means of removing the previous governors and were forced to accept their "cooperation".
@@johnrockwell5834 Genghis Khan was born in the Jin Dynasty. The Jin Dynasty logically belonged to modern China. At that time, China was divided into two dynasties, the Jin Dynasty and the Song Dynasty. Both are China. Genghis Khan is just another part
The Mongols established the Yuan Dynasty in Song-China, conquered Russia in the winter time, invaded Poland (Poor Poles), turned multiple kingdoms in the Korean Peninsula into a single province, started settling Central Asia, incorporated Tibet into the Yuan Dynasty, successfully yet temporarily invaded the coastline of Indonesia & Malaysia, made the Pagan empire in Myanmar collapse, occupied for a very short time a bit of Northern Vietnam, reached Egypt and Israel, turned Iran & Pakistan into a Mongol puppet state, controlled the Silk Road and while they were doing all of this collateral historical damage, they said but one word... " _G E K O I O N I S E E R D_ "
Didn't they also destroy Baghdad to such an extent that it's population did not fully recover until around 1900 (I think i heard this on Hardcore History)
@@BadBed1982 Yes they destroyed both the city of Baghdad and massacred and/or resettled it's population elsewhere, Hernando Malinche Very few places were safe from the Mongols during this period, The Mongols established themselves as an elite and raiding group all round the known world, I wouldn't be surprised if they reached Alaska or North America during their height. Without the Mongols, there would be no Ottoman Empire in the Balkans or Mughal Empire in India. To list off everything they did during the 1200s-1400s would be a hell of a long list to check off.
The Mongols that conquered the Eurasia and East European regions are not the same as the Sinicized Yuan dynasty. They had different political, economic, cultural and civilisational structures.
From what I seen, Inner Mongolia preserved Mongolian culture and language better. (Outer) Mongolia became influenced by Russian writing and lost a part of its territory and culture to Russia too. Although (Outer) Mongolia country does continue to live a nomadic lifestyle but it could be due to the lower GDP per capita there versus China’s
@@NightPhoenix.Y mongolians are not mongolian either there is no pure blood mongolian or some shit because mongolians were all different nomadic group of people with similar culture and rode horse who were united by genghis khan and mixed over time and that's one of the reasons why some mongolians look east asian while some others look south asian or central asian, I've even seen a caucasian looking one but i think he was probably mixed but still he spoke perfect mongolian if siberia was part of mogolia in early centuries they would probably be considered mongolian
@@Alex.af.Nordheim yep they already doing it to ugyurs they removed all ugyurs writing forced mandarin , even in hongkong they made it mandatory to learn mandarin over cantonese , it just matter of time they will take one minority at time until they homogenize whole of china under one stamp , so sad for such rich land culturally to be ruled by barbarians who dont understand value of cultural and history , cultural revolution is stain in human history
Taiwan at that time was occupied by japan. republic of China shouldn't include tibet, manchuria, qinghai and so on.there were so many warlords.they didn't actually control.
Great video. Small flaws to point out: 1. The picture used when talking about the Ming dynasty was a Qing dynasty soldier. 2. When talking about Chinese immigrants in Mongolia, the picture shows Japanese monks. Regardless, good quality video and very educational.
I am from Inner Mongolia and I am proud of China, my country. We enjoy the freedom of speaking out language. And 15 yr free education. My relatives in Outer Mongolia, get to speak Russian.... so haters should shut up.
This is very well researched and presented. Thank you! I am a small Mongolian youtuber, but never really got around to making such historically educational videos about Mongolia.
Inner Mongolia is an autonomous region in China , where defence & economical development are China’s responsibility & basically, comes under China’s admn. like Xinjiang & Tibet.
The Mongolian cyrillic language is more cleaner because they removed extra alphabets that create extra sounds. So it will sound and written shorter and fluently. Traditional Mongolian language includes a lot of extra alphabets and sounds, which makes it sound very confusing and difficult. So you can understand that the language used in Mongolia is kind of a Modern Mongolian language.
Actually, Chinese settlers started to live in this area since warring states after Zhao State defeated Xiongnu and its vassal tribes. For centuries Chinese dynasties built settlements, fortresses under its commandaries. However, in 13 th Century, Jin Dynasty lost control of the region and it was annexed by Tatar and then Mongols. After Yuan Dynasty was overthrown, many Mongol nobles were driven back to the grassland, yet Ming did not go further to conquer entire Mongolia. Instead, they built the Great Wall in the South of original border, thus leaving the area settled by Mongol tribes.
@@KishoreKumar-cs6dd Manchu people’s culture was largely effected by Han people during Qing Dynasty(1650-1900). Most of the Queens are Han people Such thing also happens during Wei Dynasty, minority invaded Han’s land then become Han people themselves, LOL
@@KishoreKumar-cs6dd The Manchu established Qing dynasty was quickly assimilated into Han culture, and Indians may find it hard to imagine the appeal of Chinese Han culture, so much so that they often think China should be divided.
There are also ethnic Mongol communities living across the world. In Pakistan we have Chughtai, who descend from the Mongol Chagatai dynasty's individuals that settled in pre-colonial times. There is also people with surname Mughal that descend from the Mughal dynasty's noblemen and soldiers, the word Mughal is just a local way of saying Mongol. Then we have Hazaras who bear most physical similarity to ethnic mongols, living between Pak and Afg, descending from a thousand Mongol soldiers (hence the name Hazara, Hazar means thousand). THere are even more Mongol tribes in Pakistan, such as Barlas and others.
Great vid, man. Very informative. I've been a connoisseur of RUclips history channels over the last few years but somehow yours has gotten lost in the shuffle... there's lots of great content on YT by talented creators, and only a limited amount of time to watch videos.. you know how it is. But I promise I'll visit your channel more going forward. Good stuff. Thx
2 Mongols understand each other very well. In fact, some Mongolians use to hire Inner Mongolians as translator or a guide when go to China. I did once too. I am not sure it is same now, apparently nowadays more and more Inner Mongolians don’t speak Mongolian anymore
thats sad tho. i mean if u know, it is the law that in inner mogolia everything should be written in both languages( mandarin and mogolian) , china is not trying to make moglians in china Han chinese, but the education is a problem. even tho there r mogolian premier school, middle school, high school, but in order to go to a good university in china, it is required to speak fluent mandarin. therefore many who does not want to learn both has to give up on one.
Machus are not nomads. They do settle down and live in permanent adresses. They earn their livings by farming, hunting and fishing, maybe also herding but not as the main source of income.
The history of Mongolia , Manchus and Chinese is very interesting. In history, Mongolia ruled China (region) and needed to change the country name to maintain the rule (ᠳᠠᠢ ᠦᠨ ᠶᠡᠬᠡ ᠮᠣᠩᠭᠣᠯ ᠦᠯᠦᠰ Dayan Ikh Mongol uls 大元大蒙古國 Great Yuan and Great Mongolia) The Manchus ruled China (regions) in the same way (ᡩᠠᡳᠴᡳᠩ ᡤᡠᡵᡠᠨ daicing gurun).The same is true for the Manchu ruling China (region) country name (ᡩᠠᡳᠴᡳᠩ ᡤᡠᡵᡠᠨ daicing gurun). It needs to change its own system to allow Chinese scholars to maintain the rule. The Qing Empire declared in the modern credential-China (ᡩᠠᡳᠴᡳᠩ ᡤᡠᡵᡠᠨ 中華大清国 ) each of them ruled the majority over a minority, and they had to declare to the outside world that they were the legitimate government passed down through the generations of China. China is now ruling the Mongols and the Manchus, as they claim to be China, and the actual choice of regime in history is the same.
yep, ........whoever ruled China in the time that China is still China . that's just interesting.....and the only ancient civilization that still exist in modern time... it just make me want to explore more history about China..
That's the power of a long-lasting culture. Even if outsiders technically conquered China, they had to adapt and immerse themselves in the culture, aka sinicization, to maintain their rules over China.
Mongols and Han people have been living together for 3,000 years. During the Han Dynasty, the Mongols were very weak and were ruled and expelled by the Han. The Tang, Ming and Qing dynasties, Mongolia were all part of China and were ruled for 860 years. But the Yuan Dynasty, Mongolia ruled China for 70 years. In fact, the two ethnic groups have fully mixed blood. People in Mongolia have a lot of Han blood, and the northern Han people also have a lot of grassland herdsmen blood.
Three hundred years ago, the Han people were in charge of administration and economy, the Manchu people were in charge of politics, and the Mongols were in charge of military affairs. We used to be compatriots fighting side by side until Britain invaded us.
Historically, even in the best days of mongols, inner Mongolia region is the most prosperious area for the mogols, because its closeness to central china. Mongol capital in history is also in this area close to China.
@El Bottoo correct about the border. But the land in todays inner mongilia receive better rainfall. So that the grass land is much more suitable to rasing livestocks than the north(or mobei漠北). The Mongols anncesters came from Hulunbeier region (todays northeastern part of inner Mongolia). The land in the todays mogolia was historically short of population . Most Mongolian population in history live in inner mongolian side.
I don't think you realize only like 14% of inner mongolia is ethnic mongol and the only ethnic mongol majority areas in inner mongolia are the rural usually poor areas that depend on animal herding and farming.
To all the ignorant comments below representing us Inner Mongol thinking we want be a part of today's Mongolia, NO WE DON'T. Nobody wanted to be a part of outer Mongolia. As an Inner Mongol myself who had been to Ulaanbaatar, I could confidently say there is no future in today's Mongolia. The nation provides very little to its population, it is literally a worse version of today's Russia. 1/3 of today's outer Mongolian lives in poverty, with the crime rate of 6.18 it sits in the same rank as Bolivia, Afghanistan and Yemen. The GDP per capita of Mongolia today sits below Guatemala and significantly below Iraq. U could see drunk and hopeless people wondering around in the street of Ulaanbaatar at night while at where I came from Hulunbuir, people might just got off work at the same time. Why would anyone wanted to reunify under that? It is ridiculous, it is funny all u lots saying this and that while sitting at ur comfy home and furthest place u've ever been to is prob the Walmart two blocks down. You guys don't know shit.
The Republic of China has never allowed the independence of Outer Mongolia and the separation of Tuva republic in Russia... Check the maps published in Taiwan... and the golden family of Gengis Khan located in inner Mongolia... there are also mongols live in Xingjiang, Qinghai and Hebei Provinces..
@@midori397 I am mongol ,writing from Mongolia.China was under mongol control during Wei dynasty,Tan empire,Liao dynasty & great Yuan empire.After mongols escape from China in 1368 my ancestors did 3 unsuccesful attempt to conquer Ming China in 1370,in 1405 with Tamerlan in 1449 during crush and captuer Ming emperor In Zsun(Tumu catastrophe).But in 1644 helped to manchus to conquer China .During Qin dynasty (1644-1911)chinese people were manchus slaves,mongols were vassal-allies of manchu lords.
@@purevjavterbish33I can't understand what you said. I only know that the Qing and Yuan Dynasties were ruled by the Mongols. I am in southern China, and the Liao and Jin dynasties have never been to my hometown.
In an international school in germany I met a dude from inner mongolia, his name was Narisu, just Narisu, no surname, no second name, nothing just straight up Narisu. This dude was like McLovin but for real.
Who cares about the Chinese. 18th-century history. They are Chinese, not Mongolian anymore. Around the 1900s everything was different everywhere around the world.
absolutely not, we made a good decision. Inner Mongolia is now mixed with Chinese people and they're now pushed by the government to forget their tradition and culture and speak Chinese.
@@anukhatan9676 You are right, but Mongolia replaced the traditional Mongolian script with Cyrillic script，Isn't it an act of forgetting tradition and culture?
@@russellgao3725 Yeah it's an act of forgetting our heritage, but we changed it under the Russian force while Mongolia was communist. But the Mongolian government planned to convert Cyrillic into Mongolian script in 2030 btw
Mongolia existed long before the 12th century. Still, people live in Mongolia, they are Mongolians. People can speak any language they want, even in China or Russia.
@@TheJennyca74 no they were xiongnu or other 'hu' clans. do you know that Mongolian and han people have the same ancestors and religion，“heaven”。in fact all Chinese including Tibetan，Mongolian and manchu have，except some people in xinjiang who come from other places
Some people live as minorities in other regions of China (e.g. Xinjiang), as well as in Russia. They only speak the language. There are many Mexicans who speak Spanish living in America. Their next generations become American due to birthrights. Same thing. Chinese people who speak Mongolian don't make them Mongolian. They are Chinese and it happened more than 100 years ago. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire
@@TheJennyca74 apparently you are not quite familiar with Asian history. Since Yuan (元）Dynasty, Mongolia is already part of China and the currently mogolia only became independent because of USSR's pressure during 1920s. You could even go check Republic of China (Taiwan)'s constitution and see it includes Mongolia as its territory
Apparently, the Mongol empire existed in the 13th and 14th centuries. Mongolia still exists now. In fact, it is 7th of the biggest land in Asia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire. Why there are Chinese citizens call themselves they are part of Mongolia (inner Mongolian). They are Chinese people with Chinese names and passports. They have never been to Mongolia. Mongolia is a democratic country. China is communist.
Now days Inner Mongolia is pretty much sinicized by Han Chinese. Inner Mongolia also has a much more developed economy and urbanization. Mongolia is where you can still find the culture tradition.
People in China, they call themselves inner Mongolian but they used to be Mongolian long before 1912. They have Chinese names and are Chinese citizens. Mongolian people have their own culture and tradition just like any other nation.
Because "Nations" are a relatively new thing. The Mongol Nationality and Chinese Nationality are both new, whereas ethnic groups, cultures, languages, tribes, dynasties, etc. existed for millennia.
It's also really funny, the Outer Mongolians always claim that Inner Mongolia is part of them, but the people who speak Mongolian and use the Mongolian language are Inner Mongolians, while the Outer Mongolians use foreign languages. It's like Vietnam calls itself Little China, but doesn't know how to write Chinese characters. 也真是搞笑，外蒙古人一直声称内蒙古是他们的一部分，但是说蒙古语和用蒙古文的却是内蒙古人，而外蒙古国却用的是外来文字。这就像越南自称为小中华，但是却不会写汉字。
How about the Kalmyks of Kalmykia in Russia (Watch Bald and Bankrupt's video) who claims they were descended from Genghis Khan's horde that invaded Russia and that they are the only Buddhist republic in Europe.
Chinese had long lived in the inner Mongolia area before there was a Mongolia. There had been a few groups before the Mongols came along in the 13th century
its pretty easy argument man. As a mongolian myself let me explain you why is there another mongolia(inner mongolia) in china. During 18-20th century, the Manchuri successfully invaded east asia and ruled china,mongolia,tibetan etc... Manchuri was successful cus they separated mongolia into three parts. Southern mongolia, western mongolia, eastern mongolia. Its just like the famous saying separate and conquer. The Western mongolians are now living outside of mongolia such as khalimag, turkish-mongols, oirad mongols etc... The southern Mongolians are now the Inner Mongolians which is a part of China. The Eastern Mongolia during Manchuri invasions is the Mongolia nowadays. Western Mongolians during Manchuri invasion left mongolian land then moved to the west and lived there for centuries so they are considered as europeans or something like that. In 1921 Mongolia got the independence so did China. When China defeated Manchuri they took all the countries that were ruled by Manchuri. South Mongolia(Inner Mongolia) somehow didnt make it to unite with Mongolia so they ruled under Chinese government and called themselves Inner-Mongolia. Theres no Manchuri person now as they mixed with Chinese blood. This is the one and only answer to this argument. And bear in mind that Mongolia is an independent country. I hope someday Inner Mongolia will get their independence.
manchu still exist as a minority in China. they just lost their home land and fear of the genocide, some falsely claim they are han origin. There are many occasions after their dynasties falls that targeted ethnic cleansing happened to them.
The Mongols admired chinese civilisation and the khans adopted many Chinese customs. Eventually they became chinese. just like the Manchus, etc. It is notable that the Chinese fought for centuries for their freedom.
Mongolia existed long before the 12th century. Still, people live in Mongolia, they are Mongolians. People can speak any language they want, even in China or Russia. It is not true. Entire two different nations. China is a communist country, Mongolia is a democratic country.
@@TheJennyca74 Trust me. China is only Communist in name. Jack Ma & Pony Ma did not become Billionaires because China is Communist. They're more cutthroat capitalists than most people think. You're prolly referring to an Authoritarian regime, but's a lot more complicated than that.
Fun fact the chance of independence of inner mongolia or reunification of the two mongolias would be extremely low inner mongolia is an temporary or permanent shield for mongolia, to keep peace with china the mongols( well the soviets) traded inner mongolia with them
Facts that westerns wont believe : fact 1. : inner mongolia are closer to China, the nobles and royals were living in inner mongolia in Qing Dynasty. they had political - marriage relationships with Qing imperial family for 2 centuries, and their army serve the Qing empire in war. the Outer mongolia were the poor civilians. Inner mongolian had no problem with their nationality as a PRC civilian as their ancestors were fine with similar scenario like that from Qing dynasty until now. fact 2. : inner mongolia remain using their traditional mongolian writing system as it was protected by China Communist minority policies. while Outer mongolian whom ruled by Russian for decades, cannot read or write mongolian text anymore as they are now using the slavic alphabets nowadays. fact 3. : Inner mongolian still speak and learn mongolian in national schools founded by the Communist govt. while they also learn Mandarin so that they can communicate with other races and have better opportunities to study further or work. AS YOU WESTERN PPL MIGHT NOT KNOW OR COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT : chinese universities use Mandarin to lecture the courses instead of translating all the rockets sciences technical terms thingy into mongolian or uighur or tibetan language. Mandarin were used as the main language and the key to access to more knowledge in China for thousands of years. The communist wants them to learn mandarin didnt mean that they are trying to destroy their traditions or culture, they just want these races can have easy access to the economy and political system so that they can destroy the gap between the rich and poor. and in fact those legacies were better protected in China inner mongolia than in outer mongolia. these facts can be very hard for some western people, I am ok if you prefer your countries' media stories. but let's not spam this comment with rubbish. I am just stating the facts.
My classmate is an inner Mongolian. And he said they are the decedent of real nobility Mongolian. And the Mongolia out side China is found by the slaves been catched to there.. So obviously both sides are different.
Great Wall was first built during Chinese Warring States period which was in the first millennium BC to defend against Xiongnu nomads, NOT Mongolians(they weren't born yet at that time...) And later against other nomadic people like Rouran, Xianbei and Turkics, etc. In the prosperous periods of strong dynasties like Han, Tang(before Mongolians appeared) and Yuan, Ming and Qing(after Mongolians appeared), lands north of Great Wall were often ruled by China. The most recent one happened during Qing dynasty when Mongolians actively chose to ally with and seek protection from Manchu rulers and so legitimately became Chinese citizens. It was not until 1911 when Qing dynasty collapsed that aristocrats of Outer Mongolia, incited by the Russians, betrayed and separated themselves from the rest of China, and the majority of Mongolians, who are proud to be Chinese. Later, Outer Mongolia was manipulated and brainwashed by Soviet Russians who erased Mongolian people's history and taught them to hate China. An ironic example is that traditional Mongolian script was abandoned in the country of Mongolia, today, people there write in Russian Cyrillics...oooh...democracy...however, most of Mongolians, who live in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region of China are still using traditional Mongolian script freely. Together with those of other ethnic groups in China, living standards of Mongolian Chinese are increasingly improving and they're proud to be Chinese. If you chose a separate path and cut the ties, then we forgive you and your business is no longer ours, but if you try to create problems and disturb our peaceful lives, then there will be no good for you
This is very true in a way! But Mongolian people in Mongolia don’t want to be Proud to be Chinese then we will be just like billions of Chinese. I certainly don’t and will not ever ever identify myself as Chinese, I’m Mongolian and proud of my traditions as well as history. I do wish that Inner Mongolians and Mongolia will unite one day in future but not include CHINA. We are not brainwashed, we’re just prideful people. I hope you understand what am trying to say.
@@baybabe914The Republic of China used Outer Mongolia as a bargaining chip to exchange with the Soviet Union for the Soviet Red Army in the three northeastern provinces of China not to support the CCP. The Soviet Union superficially agreed to the Republic of China government, and the Republic of China recognized Mongolia's independence at that time. However, the Soviet Union breached the contract, and the Republic of China later cancelled the declaration of independence for Mongolia. The Republic of China used Mongolia as a bargaining chip, which is enough to show that Outer Mongolia's status in China is not important, and the reason is very simple. Outer Mongolia was a vassal of the Qing Dynasty. Before the Qing Emperor Xuantong announced his abdication, Outer Mongolia began to plan for independence. Outer Mongolia knew that it was weak and defected to Tsarist Russia. When Tsarist Russia was also facing extinction, Outer Mongolia gave up Tsarist Russia and returned to China's Beiyang Government. As a result, the Beiyang government's rough and rough people gave Outer Mongolia a blow, and at this time the Soviet regime was established, Outer Mongolia saw hope, and Outer Mongolia decisively defected to the Soviet Union. What Outer Mongolia did was extremely bad, and both the CCP and the Republic of China saw it, so they both supported Mongolia's independence.
@@baybabe914Only a small number of people in China hope that Mongolia will return to its original state. This part often does not understand the history of Mongolia before and after its independence, and most of China shows that it is unwilling to have friendship with Mongolia. The reason is what I just said. Another reason is that the Outer Mongolians are very dissatisfied with China. As the Chinese say, they will not please someone who hates them. Inner Mongolia and the Manchus established the Qing Empire until the Qing Emperor Xuantong abdicated and handed over power to the Beiyang Government of the Republic of China. Inner Mongolia has always maintained its determination to walk with the Chinese government. Of course, at the end of the Beiyang Government of China, a small number of nobles in Inner Mongolia independently voted for Outer Mongolia, but were suppressed by the Beiyang Government. During World War II, Japan established the Pseudo-Mongol Khanate regime in Inner Mongolia. After the victory of the Anti-Japanese War, all the traitors of the Pseudo-Mongol Khanate of the Japanese Army were tried. Inner Mongolia, China, until today in 2024, the Inner Mongolians in China regard themselves as Chinese.
@@baybabe914You'd better stop dreaming. China's Inner Mongolian view of you is that it is unwilling to join the same dirty waters with you. If the Inner Mongolians in China are the same as you Outer Mongolians, they would have long since fled to Tsarist Russia or the Soviet Union for protection. Why didn't the Inner Mongolians in China do this? This shows that the Inner Mongolians in China have never had the idea of independence. The Inner Mongolians feel that they have been Chinese since ancient times. In addition, since ancient times, the division between the north and south of the desert has not been on the same line. In the Han Dynasty of China, the chest slaves in the north of the desert fled to Europe, and the chest slaves in the south of the desert fled to the royal family of the Han Dynasty. The chest slaves in the south of the desert had been completely incorporated into the Han people until the end of the Eastern Han Dynasty, and many of them had become Han people. Xianbei, Turks, Khitan, Jin and Liao dynasties were all mixed into China. The so-called Mongolian nation was just a small tribe during the Jin and Liao dynasties. The Mongolian bloodline originated from the Xianbei. China has a Mongolian history because the previous northern regimes in China had a deep history of mixing. Mongolia is just a nomadic minority that emerged in an era, and the same is true for Manchuria. The ancestors of the Manchus were the Jurchens, and the Jurchens regarded themselves as the orthodox of the Han culture in the north of the Liao Dynasty.
@@Val.Kyrie. In our mongolia we call CHINGIS HAAN. Write CHINGGIS KHAAN. but hes name is TEMUUJIN. Chinggis means hes TITLE. Khaan means KING. some people call Chinggis King. thats the exactly true CHINGGIS KHAAN or CHINGGIS KING doesnt matter. other people sayd RUSSIAN II NIKOLAI KING. our mongolians call it OROSIIN II NIKOLAI KHAAN etc.
During, not before Qing, Qing-Mongol relation is like the act of union in 1707, some considered it as sort of invasion, but the two country were officially merged by marriage, not directly by force.
@@RemoveChink 😂😁 I shall weaponise my diagnosis of being autistic like the Japanese did with anime to subvert the BBC in revenge for USA's weaponisation of Einstein's autism for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
My interest in Mongolia and China was reawakened by the netflix show Marco Polo, “may Song Dynasty last 10.000 years!” Amazingly interesting how Kublai khan started his own dynasty in China
Important fact: Republic of Mongolia made one last attempt to unite Inner-Mongolia with itself (before it is too late) in 1945, when the Mongolian army entered Inner-Mongolia together with Red Army and officially declaring war against Japan then. The two armies, Red Army and Mongolian Army, did liberate Inner-Mongolia, but whether it was that Moscow backed-off or Yalta Agreement conditioned or Mao Tsedung insisted it (they say differently), we could not take in back Inner-Mongolia formally then. The rest is the histroy. For this hope and last attempt to unite with our Southerners, Kh. Choibalsan, the leader of Mongolia, (against probably Moscow's interests) is held high in people's hearts.
Great history of my ancestors country....I’m proud to say that my ancestors took part of the rise of the Tang Dynasty..hundreds of years before this history....
There's an error in the claim that China kept Mongols divided. There were 4 different Chinas during that time - 3 were fake, 1 real. The Tanguts, Khitans (Liao), Jurchen (Jin), and Song (Han, the real China). It was the Liao & Jin who kept Mongols divided. The Song lost their territory to both Liao & Jin, and actually allied with Mongols to defeat Jin. The Mongols who saw a weak Song eventually conquer them as well.
Mongols are divided as many tribes. People of Inner Mongolia is the descendants of Chingis Khan & has closer ties with Manchu/China. Whereas people of (Outer) Mongolia was conqurered or converted by Chingis Khan. During Qing Dynasty Inner Mongolian tribes were considered as allies by Manchurian emperors, whereas Outer Mongolian tribes were considered protectorates & second-class.
Huan u cant be more wrong. There might be more golden family descendants in Inner Mongolia because Khubilai khan moved the capital of Mongol empire to Beijing from Kharkhorin and named the empire Yuan. He was the one who preferred living in palaces and eating spiced food rather than living in the steppes as a nomad. Cant blame him tho, he mightve not imagined the chinese or the Manchurians overthrowing his descendants reclaiming their land after few centuries. But those who preferred to live how they used to live, including half of Khubilai’s relatices (also descendants of Chingis), stayed in the lands of current Mongolia. Current Mongolia is the birth place of Chingis khan, the origin of Mongol empire. It’s just pointless to try to degrade mongolians in Mongolia as less mongolian than the same people who live in a different country. What you’re saying is the propaganda I hear a lot coming from chinese-educated people.
you mongoloid who watches the activist JHON GREEN wait you watch him for stuff other than what he actively advocates for? never mind just keep in mind he is a activist as well as a teacher so yeah he does slide some oppinons in here or there.
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I am from Mongolia and visited Inner Mongolia, actually we can fully understand each other and the dialects are more than 95% intelligible I would say.
Afrodisiac They are fully mongolian speaking. If they spoke manadrin,or any other chinese langauge,the region would not be called Inner Mongolia. (Chinese languages are probably second languages
@@awormnamedscoobis3419 did you watch the video? no way the ham chinese are speaking mongolian
@@8bitgubben the hans Chinese there have lived there for a very long time. Since Mongolian was the primary language. So no shit they would have picked up the language and started speaking the language of the majority initially and then it would have remained that way as Chinese languages would have started dying out in the region during that initial period of migration among those han people's.
@@8bitgubben ham chinese
Wait . Didn't you abandon traditional Mongolian writing and use Russian writing ? Recently started to reuse traditional Mongolian writing.
Hilly: Why is there a Mongolia inside China?
Chairman Mao: Why isn't the rest of Mongolia within China?
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mao never had ambitions on mongolia. the kmt however, and taiwan to this day still dont recognise mongolia or korea.
Yeah don’t they realize that Mongolia belongs to China since ancient times lol
@@botchamaniajeezus That's not accurate, Taiwan recognizes both Mongolia and South Korea as independent countries (though they don't recognize North Korea, instead recognizing South Korean sovereignty over the whole peninsula).
@@SomasAcademy wrong!!!! Taiwan still lay claim to Qing era borders
Why is there New Mexico in Usa?
Madara Uchiha Baja California and California. Oof
Northern Ireland as well... Northern Ireland actually resemble the Inner Mongolia case more
Why is there USA in America?
@@apei281 USA mean United States of America which is country while America is the name of 2 continent, Northern and Southern America
@@peterwong5993 North America & South America are together considered as a single continent of America in many countries like the ones in Europe & Latin America.
Why is there an ireland in Great Britain? is that the answer?
Upper Ireland?
@Austronesian Incel Reading this was like having a stroke.
@@kube129 these dumb comments come from the Irish side aswell unfortunately
@@user-ez9is7lb9p yeah it's sad
Great Britain is the Eastern island and Ireland is the western island. There is no Ireland in great Britain and no great britain in Ireland.
There is however a part of Ireland in the United Kingdom
I swear, everyone i’ve ever heard talk about Genghis Khan pronounces his name differently
So true😆
This was definitely a new one
Check out the NativLang channel, he does a good breakdown of how the pronunciation has changed over time
Exactly
Ching-gis Kh-aan
There is also mongol nation inside Russia.
Yes. Sadly most of them don't speak native language.
There is also a Jewish Autonomy in Russia that borders with China... actually, Chinese city Harbin, although carrying a Manchu name, was originally built by Russian Jews... who were rich bankers of course
Yep, actually 2 Republics as such in Russia. One of them Republic of Buryat.
@@Jangnono yes
There actually three Mongol Republics within Russia currently Tuva, Buriyat and Kalmyak republics all Mongol tribes
'Khaan', not 'khæn'. Mongolian is not like Arabic, the vowel sound for "a" is plain like the British 'ah', not like the Semitic 'alif'. Anyhow, good video!
We say khaan too...
Better than the average English speaker who pronounces Genghis as "Gengis" instead of "Chingis"...
It is not even pronounced like that in `Arabic. It is pronounced "khaan/khân" as well.
I have no idea why he called Genghis Khaan, Chinghis Han.
In my country Its pronounced like he said in the video.
However, it is ironic that Mongolia was influenced by the Soviet Union in its early years and has adopted Cyrillic for many years. Inner Mongolia, China is the only region in the world where traditional Mongolian is used.
@@Muesto123 Trump has at least one correct statement: Fake News! After all, he is a true businessman who is much better than the other fake gentleman.
Even the former president doesn't believe the western media, why do you still trust it?
@@Muesto123 that’s false for now to be seen
@@Muesto123 i wouldn’t say nobody, tho it is semi endangered as younger generations are being grown up in cities rather than rural areas and therefore speak chinese.
Outer mongolia still uses the traditional scripts, its just that Cyrillic is the official but they plan on making the traditional their official soon.
@@Muesto123 i doubt that. Mongolian will still speak Mongolian to Mongolians. Mandarin is a language for official use just like English is for Americans. Minorities still speak their own languages.
This is getting out of hand. Now there's two of them
There used to be four of them ( i.stack.imgur.com/lvi3p.jpg ), so this is really an improvement
You didn't tell him about the missing Mongolia
Dont forget tana tuva
@@emelgiefroah yes, the most powerful of the mongol regions
That means the Dutch must get involved.!! Crank up..."Wilhelmus".. :)
I like Mongol and Tuvan throat singing, it's pretty cool and intriguing
TUVAN TANU FING TUVA dude not uncool but rather cool
Says the baguette
Monsieur Baguette Go wave your white flag some other place.
Ding dong so long they call it long schlong they have more won battles than any other nation 😂
Efthymios Anagnostos Yeah and they lost to illiterate rice farmers who use sticks LOL
It's not hard to understand each other. We can understand each other pretty well. The issue is in terminology. While we in Mongolia named modern terms with Russian words, English words or just invent a new term, those in Inner Mongolia seem to use direct translation of Chinese terms. Otherwise we can understand each other pretty well. I do however, have harder time to understad spoken Buryat or spoken Kalmyk because they learn their mother language as a second language. What I mean is most Buryat and Kalmyk children learn to speak Russian before they learn to speak Mongolian. So they end up sounding like Russians speaking Mongolian.
The situation of Mongols before Qing dynasty is very complicated. Many Mongolians assume that back then all Mongols lived under one state. But the truth is it was similar to the Holy Roman Empire - nominally the elected Khan ruled over everyone. But in practice the elected Khan directly controlled only his own subjects and territory while his subject Khans, Taishis, Jinongs and Princes ruled over their subjects and territories independently. And they also had independent policies. To the extreme east was the tribe Khorchin, they allied themselves with the Manchus earliest. In fact, the grandmother of the Kangxi emperor was a Khorchin princess. While the Chakhars, subjects of the last elected Khan, they lived closest to Ming China and allied with the Ming and fought against the Manchus and Khorchin. The other Mongol domains - the Tumed, the Khalkhas, the Oirats, the Khoshuuds didn't give a shit and fought among themselves for religious reasons. The Tumed had one of the Dalai Lamas selected from their royal line, but he was assassinated. The Khalkhas disagreed with Khoshuuds over which way is the proper way to reach nirvana in Tibetan Buddhism and therefore wanted to control Tibet so as to put their own candidates as the religious head of Buddhism. Consequently they fought, the Khoshuuds won, migrated into Tibet and solidified the Dalai Lama as the religious head, the Khalkhas lost and were pushed North. The Oirats were probably looking at them and wondering what all the action was about and probably decided to attacked the weaker opponent, the Khalkhas. The Khalkhas apparently saw the Russians expanding into Baikal and Zabaikalsk and tried to forestall them before being utterly smashed by the Oirats and ran to the newly established and consolidated Qing dynsaty for protection. The Qing saw this as an excellent way to gain new vassals, their territories and elite cavalry troops. And they happily sent a massive army and destroyed the Oirat invasion to Khalkha territories. And then after ~60 years they sent another great army fight the Oirats. This time to completely destroy them and take their lands. And ~20 years since then, another army was sent to Tibet to push out the Khoshuuds. There brief and too oversimplified, but I think I got most of it in.
Buyandelger Davaajantsan Thx for sharing. Most Chinese people don’t even know these stories.
Mash sain bichjee, 100% unen! Bayarlalaa
Uuniigee orosoor bichvel halhuudyg urvagch geed bdag halimguud neg oilgoh bol uu, unendee bnga araas hutga durdeg, uursduu turuulj manjid urvasan bdag, oirdyn dund altan urgiin hun ogt bgaagui tul haan shireeg zalgamjilj chadahgui bolood halhyg ezegneh sanaarhal bnga aguuldag bsan bh. Buryadyg aldahad oirduud nuluulsun. Bogd haant Mongol ulsyn esreg orosuudtai niilj daitaj baiv, mongolyn baruun hyazgaaryg mun l oirduud tasalj shinjaan uigart uguhiig sanaarhaj baiv, ih hetsuu humuus. Yaalt ch ugui nongol l bolohoos, hamgiin huvia hicheesen n oirduud baidag. Tuuhiig uurchluh bish dee, buh mongol humuusee uruvddug l yum. Ehnii hel, eh hel mongol bish bol tegeed hari setgelgeetei hun bolj bna l gesen ug. Setgelgee bol tsusnaas ayultai!
good job
Mongol history always fascinated me... Its history was very closed with Turks, Manchus and Chinese...
Yes, please, more East Asian history. Both Mongol support for the USSR during WWII and the life of Baron Ungern-Sternberg would be amazing. I find the recent civil wars in Russia and later in China to be fascinating. Probably because of some of their similarities with the Spanish civil war (conservative, upper classes vs leftist, lower classes; both extreme in their own way). Several white Russian families ended up settling down in Spain after WWII (because of the Franco regime and whatnot) such as the Bagrations and their descendants are still living there to this day. It is also very interesting how many of the Imperial Russian high commands were of germanic descent (e.g. Ungern-Sternberg or Wittgenstein).
Btw, several years ago, when I lived in Beijing, I attended a small live concert by a Mongolian folk band called Hanggai in a small dark bar near the Drum and Bell Tower (an older neighborhood in Beijing). The band played a typical drinking song that kept getting faster and faster while the crowd slammed their beer mugs against the wooden tables and drank at unison. Priceless
Aren't the Bagratians Georgian?
Bagrations is the ruling dynasty of Armenia and Georgia since 700s. They were not from Russia.
yeung charlie I meant white Russian as in the emigres who left Russia after the Bolshevik revolution, it is not an ethnic or racial term. Baron Ungern- Sternverg who Hilbert mentions in this video was of Germanic descent, but he is also considered a White Russian. As subjects of imperial Russia I think the Bagrations qualify as White Russians, but I could be wrong. White emigre is probably a better term to avoid confusion
R. V. Datmir lol, have a like
@@belfigue The Mongols invited Xu shuzheng and took a photo together. But Mongols cheated on Xu shuzheng. Mongols love to hunt. The Mongols invited the xu shuzheng to hunt. Because during the China-Mongols war in 1911, white Russian ordered Mongols to remove their troops from the Chinese land. Mongols haven't been hunting for long. They wanted to enjoy hunting. Mongols were crazy murders and blood lovers. You will see Xu Shuzheng and Mongolian lords in this picture. ruclips.net/user/redirect?redir_token=ce2pJ8K4NzH_fyl2i0B6ed95-3l8MTU4MjYwODIzM0AxNTgyNTIxODMz&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Di%26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fcommons.wikimedia.org%252Fwiki%252FFile%253AXu_Shuzheng_and_Mongolian_Noyons_in_Kh%2525C3%2525BCree.png%26psig%3DAOvVaw1Uip03jYriBmEoKURAldsu%26ust%3D1582606917894000%26source%3Dimages%26cd%3Dvfe%26ved%3D2ahUKEwiExsaqtOnnAhUD7ZQKHQghDJ0Qr4kDegUIARDHAQ&stzid=UgwBx_cG8zF1JV_to6B4AaABAg.95EaUBMeU4l95PUTSOR4ky&event=comments
Also it is worth noting that there was also an Inner and Outer Manchuria.
Inner Manchuria is still in China whilst Outer Manchuria north of the Amur River is in Russia. It was where Qing Dynasty 1644-1911 came from. Due to the weakness of the Qing the Russians annexed the Qing territories north of the Amur.
The reason western can't figured China well is they don't know the Chinese is not a term describe a race but the people shared same culture background. Like myself, my grandparents on my mother side are Manchus and Han and on my father side are Mongol and Han. Should I judge myself as manchu ? Mongol ? or Han (funny fact is the race presented on my official document is determined by a dice - govt ask my parents decide which race of me and they rolled a dice). However, under a uniform Chinese identity is much easier for me. All of the people no matter race who admitted the Chinese culture can introduce them self as Chinese ( Another fact, did you know there is a Russian race of Chinese).
Nah stop that pointless rhetoric. Free Mongol, Free Tibet, Free Uighur and Free Taiwan, Hongkong and Macau. 😂
@@threathy Why not just free Earth from humans?
@@threathy yeah Free Nigga
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Mongolia in WW2: Had been sending supports. Sent 57 tanks(T-34-85). But they all brought victory. 1 Mongolia's tank reached Berlin.
@Mustafa Alam Mongolia was too weak. Less then 1 or 2 million population. So USSR wont let them fight in front line. But Mongolia had been sending supports all they can. And Mongolia is allied with USSR so called into war.
Mustafa Alam they did,even in inner mongolia. thats why people in inner mongolia want freedom from the chinese communists. Mongolia and Inner Mongolia need to unite to fully create a mongol population
@@awormnamedscoobis3419 Hey Don't forget Uyghar Mongolia. That is located in West-North of China bordered with Mongolia. Mostly calls Xinsing.
@@inguunenkhtaivan9146 Is that the place where China has all the forced labor prison camps?
@@BadBed1982 Yes
lol im from mongolia and i don’t understand why yu calling khan as hain did u think we say it like that
xvcel o yu bn
xvcel o does genghis start with a hard or soft g in Mongolia?
Karen Hoskins absolutely not. From what I’ve heard my grandparents and Mongol folk tales the “G” got in by Indians
xvcel o I don’t understand. Is Genghis pronounced the way Hilbert says it, or like the beginning of the words “great” or “green” in English?
His Dutch accent
I would really love to visit mongolia and china, those countriese are mistery to me
Much love from serbia
welcome! when all this covid19 shits r gone
offer you a view of Ancient Capital of China:ruclips.net/video/PL5gTrRZ_F8/видео.html
Serbian people are great, met some of them, very smart and sincere people.
Don’t go to China it’s literally so corrupt and it’s a terrible country
@@pinkgoergefloyd8340 Lol
7:50 - “The latter part of the 19th the Qing Empire was facing some some real problems”... losing two ‘Opium’ Wars warranted a mention, but not the Taiping Rebellion?
The wars with Europeans were limited engagements regarding trading privileges - casualties estimated between 5-10 thousand.
The Taiping Rebellion was a fight for the very survival of the Qing Empire with casualty estimates between 10-30 million.
Scott Fair enough actually, I don’t script the videos but that likely did warrant a mention. If I recall one of the images i use depicts a battle from the Taiping Rebellion.
@@historywithhilbert Any plans on making a Taiping Rebellion video?
taiping rebelión is the results of the lost of first opium war....in the past the export port is only canton.therefore all the manufacturing is there .they have around 20million working on exporting goods..after the opium war.china was forced to open 5 more gate.thus many of this trade 80% moved to east city thus 10 million people lost their job.when the employ rate drop...so will the people became desparit and create their own extreme idea and ideology to destroy everything...
@R. V. Datmir China casualties never compare well to anywhere else in the world. Some country's rebellion may kill a couple hundred thousand and china's still sitting there like "oh, we lost 30 million". Kinda amusing in a morbid way.
compare to someone could attack your capital, only 10-30 million people in the marginal area is not that important. China had 400 millions people in late 1800s
I have seen many comments trying to correct his pronunciation of Genghis Khan. Be nice, guys. He is just a foreigner. He didn't pronounce even one single Chinese name correctly. But I just don't see any complaint. To tell the truth, I rarely see any westerner who can pronounce even one Chinese word in a proper way , and they are mocking the Chinese accent.....
Who can pronounce the Chinese language? Only Chinese.
The Inner Mongolia was already like a province in Manchu's Qing Dynasty. Their governers were appointed by Beijing, v.s. "Outer" Mongolia had hereditary tribal heads.
Also during the Chinese civil war, the Inner Mongolians were aligned with the communists and drove out a lot of farming settlers and got back their land for herding. (The settlers were mostly aligned with KMT that eventually lost.)
Small correction: the manchus were actually sedentary and mostly agricultural, they were not nomadic.
@@sb25045 Actually, the Jianzhou Jurchens (which Nurhaci belonged to) were mostly settled farmers who farmed wheat, barley, buckwheat and reared pigs. The other Jurchen groups further to the north, like the Mohe Jurchens, relied more on hunting and fishing in the rivers like the Amur (Heilongjiang) and Songhua. Manchuria was mostly forested, so not that conducive for pastoral life like the Mongolian grasslands.
@@sb25045 Manchuria is a famous granary in China, with the same black land as Ukraine
@@sb25045 Manchuria is a famous granary in China, with the same black land as Ukraine
Manchu was sedentary in terms of economy, nomadic in terms of politics and military.
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I lived in Hohhot Inner Mongolia. Amazing town with beautiful weather and really good food. Also mountains and tundra :) Not all like the big cities in china.
-The Bogd khaan had been preparing for independence for decades at this point. They had the fresh memory of centuries of oppression, removal of autonomy and attempted integration via Han colonization and military helped light the spark.
-The original document atleast for Outer Mongolia made it clear to only refer to the Qing dynasty exclusively so in addition to an opportunity Mongolian independence was directly justified by the same document which ended it.
-While I can see why you say the under influence of. The Russian and Chinese “control” was mostly nominal or soft influence, it wasn’t until the Japanese supported military occupation in 1919that the Chinese took control.
-Your missing the five path war were a small elite expedition of 7k cavalry was sent to retake Southern Mongolia. Though they were eventually pushed back they after several back in forth attacks and the Russians siding with the Chinese they managed to push all the way to the Great wall against a somewhat united China as well.
-There were many uprisings in Southern Mongolia and many joined their Northern brothers in arms.
-Fun fact for the referendum they literally just went around rounded people up and made a show of hands
-The Peoples revolution as it’s called was in 1921 not 1924
-Due to the Bogd khaan’s huge popularity even in the MAN(Mongolian Peoples party) and the MAN still retaining many centre-left individuals the Bogd khaan not only acted as a bulwark against Soviet influence up until his death but Mongolia was history’s only nominally communist technically theocratic socialist constitutional monarchist peoples republic.
-There were many attempted counter revolutions while unsuccessful caused the MAN to remove the more extreme elements reverse harmful policies and return to more liberal centre left proponents and economic models. Though wildly successful these would be short lived
-I wouldn’t say it’s that unintelligible we can communicate effectively
-Fun fact the MAN would initially tried to popularize the latin alphabet but despite zealous efforts this did not pan out.
Yeah once China got invaded by the Nation under Chinghis. China never forgot being subjugated once by such a people.
You didn’t mention at that time China was divided by warlords. I will say China was on civil war at that period of time. That is why the Mongolia can be separated from China. And Stalin asked USA and UK to consent to Mongolia to maintain its status quo after the war. That is why CCP didn’t take Mongolia back after winning the civil war.
"They had the fresh memory of centuries of oppression, removal of autonomy and attempted integration via Han colonization" This sentence is simply wrong. It is Manchus not Han people conqered Mongolia around 1600s. Manchus is a tribe used be submit to Genghis Han. Manchus language is much different from Han's. For almost a thousand years, Han people could not defeat the ruling regime in the Mongolia area. Han regime kneeled to those tribes and paid a lot of gold to them.
Most of the troops sent to fight Bogd khaan were Mongolian or led by Mongolian officers (warlord era). Do remember that when the Qing collapsed provinces that were under Imperial control turned to warlords as the Republic of China had no means of removing the previous governors and were forced to accept their "cooperation".
@@johnrockwell5834 Genghis Khan was born in the Jin Dynasty. The Jin Dynasty logically belonged to modern China. At that time, China was divided into two dynasties, the Jin Dynasty and the Song Dynasty. Both are China. Genghis Khan is just another part
I'm a han Chinese from Inner-Mongolia,when I come to my university in Shenzhen,all of my classmates are curious if I ride a horse to go to school😂.
Maybe you should start riding horses to school haha
Yes, I saw many horses with warriors in a show in Shenzhen.
The point is that you can’t even ride a bike 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
我靠，多年的老梗。
cool
The Mongols established the Yuan Dynasty in Song-China, conquered Russia in the winter time, invaded Poland (Poor Poles), turned multiple kingdoms in the Korean Peninsula into a single province, started settling Central Asia, incorporated Tibet into the Yuan Dynasty, successfully yet temporarily invaded the coastline of Indonesia & Malaysia, made the Pagan empire in Myanmar collapse, occupied for a very short time a bit of Northern Vietnam, reached Egypt and Israel, turned Iran & Pakistan into a Mongol puppet state, controlled the Silk Road and while they were doing all of this collateral historical damage, they said but one word...
" _G E K O I O N I S E E R D_ "
Didn't they also destroy Baghdad to such an extent that it's population did not fully recover until around 1900 (I think i heard this on Hardcore History)
@@BadBed1982 Yes they destroyed both the city of Baghdad and massacred and/or resettled it's population elsewhere, Hernando Malinche Very few places were safe from the Mongols during this period, The Mongols established themselves as an elite and raiding group all round the known world, I wouldn't be surprised if they reached Alaska or North America during their height. Without the Mongols, there would be no Ottoman Empire in the Balkans or Mughal Empire in India. To list off everything they did during the 1200s-1400s would be a hell of a long list to check off.
The Mongols that conquered the Eurasia and East European regions are not the same as the Sinicized Yuan dynasty. They had different political, economic, cultural and civilisational structures.
Thanks to them all modern countries ( united) came to being
many pakistani has mongolian eyes
From what I seen, Inner Mongolia preserved Mongolian culture and language better. (Outer) Mongolia became influenced by Russian writing and lost a part of its territory and culture to Russia too. Although (Outer) Mongolia country does continue to live a nomadic lifestyle but it could be due to the lower GDP per capita there versus China’s
only a part of territory?they lost the whole siberia. LOL
Siberia ain't Mongolian m8, just because they ride horses and are nomadic doesn't make them mogolian
@@NightPhoenix.Y mongolians are not mongolian either there is no pure blood mongolian or some shit because mongolians were all different nomadic group of people with similar culture and rode horse who were united by genghis khan and mixed over time and that's one of the reasons why some mongolians look east asian while some others look south asian or central asian, I've even seen a caucasian looking one but i think he was probably mixed but still he spoke perfect mongolian if siberia was part of mogolia in early centuries they would probably be considered mongolian
Well, with the current cultural genocide in China I don't think that will last long
@@Alex.af.Nordheim yep they already doing it to ugyurs they removed all ugyurs writing forced mandarin , even in hongkong they made it mandatory to learn mandarin over cantonese , it just matter of time they will take one minority at time until they homogenize whole of china under one stamp , so sad for such rich land culturally to be ruled by barbarians who dont understand value of cultural and history , cultural revolution is stain in human history
8:35 Your map of Qing/Republic of China didn’t include the island of Taiwan mate. You should have included it
Taiwan at that time was occupied by japan. republic of China shouldn't include tibet, manchuria, qinghai and so on.there were so many warlords.they didn't actually control.
@@潘越-o1m i think the map is for the Qing though and then it depends whether or not it is before the First Sino-Japanese War
@@潘越-o1m Japan only had Taiwan for 70 years.... It was part of Qing for for 2 centuries.
That moment when it is a premier so you can't skip the sponsor
Elfsskeetit oof
Lol peasants who can’t afford premium
Elfsskeetit Just wait until it’s fully premiered and turns into a normal skippable video
@@SentMyOwnWay why pay youtube? They dont deserve a penny
Great video.
Small flaws to point out:
1. The picture used when talking about the Ming dynasty was a Qing dynasty soldier.
2. When talking about Chinese immigrants in Mongolia, the picture shows Japanese monks.
Regardless, good quality video and very educational.
Mongolian folk metal. I don't know why I haven't heard of this before.
Joel Adamson look up “The Hu”. You’ll love it.
@@masonodenwald4833 there is also tengger cavalry
Its awesome.
because you didnt play Attila Total War
Joel Adamson Try “Nine Treasure” or “杭盖” (sorry I don’t know how to translate it), I guess you will like them!
I am from Inner Mongolia and I am proud of China, my country. We enjoy the freedom of speaking out language. And 15 yr free education. My relatives in Outer Mongolia, get to speak Russian.... so haters should shut up.
15 years?
Inferiority is their problem
An actual inner mongolian would know outer mongolians and inner mongolians speak the same language and can speak to each other lol
@@celine7511应该是9年，高中和大学就不在保障里了。😂中国是9年义务教育。6年小学，3年初中。
你不是蒙古族
This is very well researched and presented. Thank you! I am a small Mongolian youtuber, but never really got around to making such historically educational videos about Mongolia.
Inner Mongolia is an autonomous region in China , where defence & economical development are China’s responsibility & basically, comes under China’s admn. like Xinjiang & Tibet.
Talks about Genghis Khan...
Shows picture of Qing Dynasty Emperor Qianlong in armour on horseback...
it is actually Kangxi
@22joyZz Kangxi the first Manchu ruler? what about his father Emperor Shunzhi? Or his father Emperor HongTaiji? Or his father Khan Nurhaci?
Nobody:
Hilbert: *Chengis Haan*
William Lillevik that’s how you pronounce it in Mongolian
The Mongolian cyrillic language is more cleaner because they removed extra alphabets that create extra sounds. So it will sound and written shorter and fluently.
Traditional Mongolian language includes a lot of extra alphabets and sounds, which makes it sound very confusing and difficult. So you can understand that the language used in Mongolia is kind of a Modern Mongolian language.
Actually, Chinese settlers started to live in this area since warring states after Zhao State defeated Xiongnu and its vassal tribes. For centuries Chinese dynasties built settlements, fortresses under its commandaries. However, in 13 th Century, Jin Dynasty lost control of the region and it was annexed by Tatar and then Mongols. After Yuan Dynasty was overthrown, many Mongol nobles were driven back to the grassland, yet Ming did not go further to conquer entire Mongolia. Instead, they built the Great Wall in the South of original border, thus leaving the area settled by Mongol tribes.
Are todays manchus live happily with han dominated chinese rule...
@@KishoreKumar-cs6dd It depends. But I think many of them do not and still think their dynasty is superior...
@@KishoreKumar-cs6dd Manchu people’s culture was largely effected by Han people during Qing Dynasty(1650-1900). Most of the Queens are Han people
Such thing also happens during Wei Dynasty, minority invaded Han’s land then become Han people themselves, LOL
Yeah, the history of lands between Han and minority are incredibly complex. so as the Tibet and Southern Xinjiang.
@@KishoreKumar-cs6dd The Manchu established Qing dynasty was quickly assimilated into Han culture, and Indians may find it hard to imagine the appeal of Chinese Han culture, so much so that they often think China should be divided.
There are also ethnic Mongol communities living across the world. In Pakistan we have Chughtai, who descend from the Mongol Chagatai dynasty's individuals that settled in pre-colonial times. There is also people with surname Mughal that descend from the Mughal dynasty's noblemen and soldiers, the word Mughal is just a local way of saying Mongol. Then we have Hazaras who bear most physical similarity to ethnic mongols, living between Pak and Afg, descending from a thousand Mongol soldiers (hence the name Hazara, Hazar means thousand). THere are even more Mongol tribes in Pakistan, such as Barlas and others.
Thank you for raising the volume of your voice over the music.
That was perfect.
When you showed Chinese settlers, those are actually Japanese costumes... Just so u kno!
@Hernando Malinche That clothing is a distinct Japanese folk outfit. Song dynasty iconography does not show commoners looking like that.
He used a picture of a Qing Yellow Banner horseman for Genghis Khan so idk broski.
The images is of Japanese Buddhist monks, dressed for collecting alms in public. Regularly seen on the streets of Japan to this day.
PRINCE KRAZIE Copyright free image of “Chinese settlers” has pranked me in that case!
@Hernando Malinche Japanese borrow heavily from Tang Dynasty China, not Song Dynasty. It's Korea who borrows heavily from Song Dynasty China
Great vid, man. Very informative. I've been a connoisseur of RUclips history channels over the last few years but somehow yours has gotten lost in the shuffle... there's lots of great content on YT by talented creators, and only a limited amount of time to watch videos.. you know how it is.
But I promise I'll visit your channel more going forward. Good stuff. Thx
Mongolian metal, starting with The Hu?
Shantanu David The HU, Tengger Cavalry, Suld, Nine Treasures, Sedai etc
@@historywithhilbert a veritable horde (of talent)!
@@historywithhilbert How can you listen to the HU and NOT know how Khan is pronounced?!!
you need listen vandebo am c maaraa ginjin roockie?
Hurd is also very good. As an mongolian in Inner mongolia everyone knows Hurd.
14:30 Mongolia is actually transitioning to the Mongolic Script now!
His mic brings back so much nostalgia from the wow days
2 Mongols understand each other very well. In fact, some Mongolians use to hire Inner Mongolians as translator or a guide when go to China. I did once too. I am not sure it is same now, apparently nowadays more and more Inner Mongolians don’t speak Mongolian anymore
thats sad tho. i mean if u know, it is the law that in inner mogolia everything should be written in both languages( mandarin and mogolian) , china is not trying to make moglians in china Han chinese, but the education is a problem. even tho there r mogolian premier school, middle school, high school, but in order to go to a good university in china, it is required to speak fluent mandarin. therefore many who does not want to learn both has to give up on one.
@@yilongliu2353 yes, but dialects too.
Actually my brother want to go to china
@@yilongliu2353 Then its mongolian's fault not chinese?
@@imorichwu4797中国有56个民族，每个民族都有自己的方言，汉族每隔一百公里就有不同的方言存在。别说蒙古言消失，我们汉族的方言也将要消失了，其它小数民族方言也一样。中国普通话发源北京，满洲清政府官方语言就是普通和满洲语。
Yet, no one is talking about "New Mexico", "West Bengal"...etc
Machus are not nomads. They do settle down and live in permanent adresses. They earn their livings by farming, hunting and fishing, maybe also herding but not as the main source of income.
The history of Mongolia , Manchus and Chinese is very interesting. In history, Mongolia ruled China (region) and needed to change the country name to maintain the rule (ᠳᠠᠢ ᠦᠨ ᠶᠡᠬᠡ ᠮᠣᠩᠭᠣᠯ ᠦᠯᠦᠰ Dayan Ikh Mongol uls
大元大蒙古國 Great Yuan and Great Mongolia)
The Manchus ruled China (regions) in the same way (ᡩᠠᡳᠴᡳᠩ ᡤᡠᡵᡠᠨ daicing gurun).The same is true for the Manchu ruling China (region) country name (ᡩᠠᡳᠴᡳᠩ ᡤᡠᡵᡠᠨ daicing gurun). It needs to change its own system to allow Chinese scholars to maintain the rule.
The Qing Empire declared in the modern credential-China (ᡩᠠᡳᠴᡳᠩ ᡤᡠᡵᡠᠨ 中華大清国 )
each of them ruled the majority over a minority, and they had to declare to the outside world that they were the legitimate government passed down through the generations of China. China is now ruling the Mongols and the Manchus, as they claim to be China, and the actual choice of regime in history is the same.
yep, ........whoever ruled China in the time that China is still China . that's just interesting.....and the only ancient civilization that still exist in modern time... it just make me want to explore more history about China..
That's the power of a long-lasting culture. Even if outsiders technically conquered China, they had to adapt and immerse themselves in the culture, aka sinicization, to maintain their rules over China.
Inner and Outer Mongolia. Chinese and East Asian history has always fascinated me.
Outer Manchuria ???
NOW ITS primorsky krai and a part of khabarovsk krai Manchus YOU RUSSIAN Now well IF YOU CAN COME BACK TO RUSSIA THAT IS.
Hi Hilbert, History buff and nerd here. I really love your videos. They're straight to the point and no jargon. Please don't change. Thanks!
Mongols and Han people have been living together for 3,000 years. During the Han Dynasty, the Mongols were very weak and were ruled and expelled by the Han. The Tang, Ming and Qing dynasties, Mongolia were all part of China and were ruled for 860 years. But the Yuan Dynasty, Mongolia ruled China for 70 years. In fact, the two ethnic groups have fully mixed blood. People in Mongolia have a lot of Han blood, and the northern Han people also have a lot of grassland herdsmen blood.
Inner Mongolian is a province inside the People's Republic of CHINA.
Really??? 😂😂😂 read the title?? WHY is there a Mongolia inside of China.
@@Albania.Caritatewhy there is azerbaijan province in Iran
Three hundred years ago, the Han people were in charge of administration and economy, the Manchu people were in charge of politics, and the Mongols were in charge of military affairs. We used to be compatriots fighting side by side until Britain invaded us.
Plottwist: all the land in the thumbnail actually belongs to Mongolia
Greetings from Egypt ❤ thank you for great documentary
Historically, even in the best days of mongols, inner Mongolia region is the most prosperious area for the mogols, because its closeness to central china. Mongol capital in history is also in this area close to China.
@El Bottoo correct about the border. But the land in todays inner mongilia receive better rainfall. So that the grass land is much more suitable to rasing livestocks than the north(or mobei漠北). The Mongols anncesters came from Hulunbeier region (todays northeastern part of inner Mongolia). The land in the todays mogolia was historically short of population . Most Mongolian population in history live in inner mongolian side.
I don't think you realize only like 14% of inner mongolia is ethnic mongol and the only ethnic mongol majority areas in inner mongolia are the rural usually poor areas that depend on animal herding and farming.
To all the ignorant comments below representing us Inner Mongol thinking we want be a part of today's Mongolia, NO WE DON'T.
Nobody wanted to be a part of outer Mongolia. As an Inner Mongol myself who had been to Ulaanbaatar, I could confidently say there is no future in today's Mongolia. The nation provides very little to its population, it is literally a worse version of today's Russia. 1/3 of today's outer Mongolian lives in poverty, with the crime rate of 6.18 it sits in the same rank as Bolivia, Afghanistan and Yemen. The GDP per capita of Mongolia today sits below Guatemala and significantly below Iraq. U could see drunk and hopeless people wondering around in the street of Ulaanbaatar at night while at where I came from Hulunbuir, people might just got off work at the same time.
Why would anyone wanted to reunify under that? It is ridiculous, it is funny all u lots saying this and that while sitting at ur comfy home and furthest place u've ever been to is prob the Walmart two blocks down. You guys don't know shit.
Nobody:
Absolutely Nobody:
History with Hilbert: Chingis Khän
also Khakhan was dirty. its Khagan
I’m Mongolian and I can understand inner Mongolian very well intact soooo gooooddd (it’s like British ve American English)
Hilbert: Dutch speaking English
Auto-generated captions: Konnichiwa
Chinggis Kha-a-n
Hilbert... come on, usually you nail the pronunciations.
There Are multiple ways to say that.
@@vojtechsvaricek1863 no. There's only one way - the Mongolian way. All other "ways" are just wrong
“Chinggis” LoL that was shock
There is a Mongolia in Russia as well, called Buryatia.
Not only Buryatia, but also Kalmykia, Altai, Tuva, Ust-Orda and Agin.
Actually, the entire Siberia is part of Mongol. Russian occupied Siberia.
@@yeshiyangzom8532 no some of those tribes aren't mongol, but finno-ugric or turkic and others.
Raymond McCollum some land belongs to manchu
@@liu2998 manchus don't exist, chinese bot
The Republic of China has never allowed the independence of Outer Mongolia and the separation of Tuva republic in Russia... Check the maps published in Taiwan... and the golden family of Gengis Khan located in inner Mongolia... there are also mongols live in Xingjiang, Qinghai and Hebei Provinces..
委员长地图开疆功不可没，蒙古独立多亏了他
@@drinlakjyen418 *Republic of China is the Real China*
@@mikeparker2486 But its citizens don't think they are Chinese. What qualifications does it have to be considered a real China😂
@@midori397 I am mongol ,writing from Mongolia.China was under mongol control during Wei dynasty,Tan empire,Liao dynasty & great Yuan empire.After mongols escape from China in 1368 my ancestors did 3 unsuccesful attempt to conquer Ming China in 1370,in 1405 with Tamerlan in 1449 during crush and captuer Ming emperor In Zsun(Tumu catastrophe).But in 1644 helped to manchus to conquer China .During Qin dynasty (1644-1911)chinese people were manchus slaves,mongols were vassal-allies of manchu lords.
@@purevjavterbish33I can't understand what you said. I only know that the Qing and Yuan Dynasties were ruled by the Mongols. I am in southern China, and the Liao and Jin dynasties have never been to my hometown.
I love how this video started with Batzorig Vaanchig ❤🧡💛
In an international school in germany I met a dude from inner mongolia, his name was Narisu, just Narisu, no surname, no second name, nothing just straight up Narisu. This dude was like McLovin but for real.
that guy is Chinese
Chinese citizen
We all know, if it weren't for the Dutch, Mongolia would have conquered Europe.
I wonder if mongolians regret their past decision. Inner Mongolia's GDP is now 20 times larger than Mongolia's.
Who cares about the Chinese. 18th-century history. They are Chinese, not Mongolian anymore. Around the 1900s everything was different everywhere around the world.
Jenny A
If you ask who care about Chinese, umm Trump... with “extra care” and his love late relationship with China.
absolutely not, we made a good decision. Inner Mongolia is now mixed with Chinese people and they're now pushed by the government to forget their tradition and culture and speak Chinese.
@@anukhatan9676 You are right, but Mongolia replaced the traditional Mongolian script with Cyrillic script，Isn't it an act of forgetting tradition and culture?
@@russellgao3725 Yeah it's an act of forgetting our heritage, but we changed it under the Russian force while Mongolia was communist. But the Mongolian government planned to convert Cyrillic into Mongolian script in 2030 btw
Your title probably should be why there is a Mongolia outside China?
Mongolia existed long before the 12th century. Still, people live in Mongolia, they are Mongolians. People can speak any language they want, even in China or Russia.
@@TheJennyca74 no they were xiongnu or other 'hu' clans. do you know that Mongolian and han people have the same ancestors and religion，“heaven”。in fact all Chinese including Tibetan，Mongolian and manchu have，except some people in xinjiang who come from other places
Some people live as minorities in other regions of China (e.g. Xinjiang), as well as in Russia. They only speak the language. There are many Mexicans who speak Spanish living in America. Their next generations become American due to birthrights. Same thing. Chinese people who speak Mongolian don't make them Mongolian. They are Chinese and it happened more than 100 years ago. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire
@@TheJennyca74 apparently you are not quite familiar with Asian history. Since Yuan (元）Dynasty, Mongolia is already part of China and the currently mogolia only became independent because of USSR's pressure during 1920s. You could even go check Republic of China (Taiwan)'s constitution and see it includes Mongolia as its territory
Apparently, the Mongol empire existed in the 13th and 14th centuries. Mongolia still exists now. In fact, it is 7th of the biggest land in Asia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire. Why there are Chinese citizens call themselves they are part of Mongolia (inner Mongolian). They are Chinese people with Chinese names and passports. They have never been to Mongolia. Mongolia is a democratic country. China is communist.
Dude for a second I thought you were oversimplified and he posted again :( anyhow nice vid
Who?
Fantastic work! Even most of Chinese people don't know this history.
So, same reason why there is a Mexico (New Mexico) in the United States?
Now days Inner Mongolia is pretty much sinicized by Han Chinese. Inner Mongolia also has a much more developed economy and urbanization. Mongolia is where you can still find the culture tradition.
People in China, they call themselves inner Mongolian but they used to be Mongolian long before 1912. They have Chinese names and are Chinese citizens. Mongolian people have their own culture and tradition just like any other nation.
I wonder how can he shove the dutch anthem in a video about Mongolia.
Thank you!! I wondered about this since I was in inner Mongolia a few years ago!
Because "Nations" are a relatively new thing. The Mongol Nationality and Chinese Nationality are both new, whereas ethnic groups, cultures, languages, tribes, dynasties, etc. existed for millennia.
They used to Mongols before for over more than 900 years, Chinese are Chinese they are different.
It's also really funny, the Outer Mongolians always claim that Inner Mongolia is part of them, but the people who speak Mongolian and use the Mongolian language are Inner Mongolians, while the Outer Mongolians use foreign languages. It's like Vietnam calls itself Little China, but doesn't know how to write Chinese characters.
也真是搞笑，外蒙古人一直声称内蒙古是他们的一部分，但是说蒙古语和用蒙古文的却是内蒙古人，而外蒙古国却用的是外来文字。这就像越南自称为小中华，但是却不会写汉字。
哈哈哈， right on
The Hu is a great Mongolian metal band!
How about the Kalmyks of Kalmykia in Russia (Watch Bald and Bankrupt's video) who claims they were descended from Genghis Khan's horde that invaded Russia and that they are the only Buddhist republic in Europe.
Kalmyks and Buryats are Mongolic people who speaks their own unique dialects
Chinese had long lived in the inner Mongolia area before there was a Mongolia. There had been a few groups before the Mongols came along in the 13th century
its pretty easy argument man. As a mongolian myself let me explain you why is there another mongolia(inner mongolia) in china. During 18-20th century, the Manchuri successfully invaded east asia and ruled china,mongolia,tibetan etc... Manchuri was successful cus they separated mongolia into three parts. Southern mongolia, western mongolia, eastern mongolia. Its just like the famous saying separate and conquer. The Western mongolians are now living outside of mongolia such as khalimag, turkish-mongols, oirad mongols etc... The southern Mongolians are now the Inner Mongolians which is a part of China. The Eastern Mongolia during Manchuri invasions is the Mongolia nowadays. Western Mongolians during Manchuri invasion left mongolian land then moved to the west and lived there for centuries so they are considered as europeans or something like that. In 1921 Mongolia got the independence so did China. When China defeated Manchuri they took all the countries that were ruled by Manchuri. South Mongolia(Inner Mongolia) somehow didnt make it to unite with Mongolia so they ruled under Chinese government and called themselves Inner-Mongolia. Theres no Manchuri person now as they mixed with Chinese blood.
This is the one and only answer to this argument. And bear in mind that Mongolia is an independent country. I hope someday Inner Mongolia will get their independence.
manchu still exist as a minority in China. they just lost their home land and fear of the genocide, some falsely claim they are han origin. There are many occasions after their dynasties falls that targeted ethnic cleansing happened to them.
I hope someday Outer Mongolia will become part of China again
@@lx6461 by china u mean qing?
Is this a new mic? Sounds like the bass is set too high.
The Mongols admired chinese civilisation and the khans adopted many Chinese customs. Eventually they became chinese. just like the Manchus, etc. It is notable that the Chinese fought for centuries for their freedom.
lol no u troll
Mongolia existed long before the 12th century. Still, people live in Mongolia, they are Mongolians. People can speak any language they want, even in China or Russia. It is not true. Entire two different nations. China is a communist country, Mongolia is a democratic country.
The Mongols admired han chinese??? ...... you never heard of 四等人制?
@@TheJennyca74 Trust me. China is only Communist in name. Jack Ma & Pony Ma did not become Billionaires because China is Communist. They're more cutthroat capitalists than most people think. You're prolly referring to an Authoritarian regime, but's a lot more complicated than that.
Who are they? Why would I care?
Too many inaccuracies, id suggest reuploading this lol
Fascinating and indeed very complex historically . Many thanks for explaining the more obscure aspects of history .
Fun fact the chance of independence of inner mongolia or reunification of the two mongolias would be extremely low inner mongolia is an temporary or permanent shield for mongolia, to keep peace with china the mongols( well the soviets) traded inner mongolia with them
Facts that westerns wont believe :
fact 1. : inner mongolia are closer to China, the nobles and royals were living in inner mongolia in Qing Dynasty. they had political - marriage relationships with Qing imperial family for 2 centuries, and their army serve the Qing empire in war. the Outer mongolia were the poor civilians. Inner mongolian had no problem with their nationality as a PRC civilian as their ancestors were fine with similar scenario like that from Qing dynasty until now.
fact 2. : inner mongolia remain using their traditional mongolian writing system as it was protected by China Communist minority policies. while Outer mongolian whom ruled by Russian for decades, cannot read or write mongolian text anymore as they are now using the slavic alphabets nowadays.
fact 3. : Inner mongolian still speak and learn mongolian in national schools founded by the Communist govt. while they also learn Mandarin so that they can communicate with other races and have better opportunities to study further or work. AS YOU WESTERN PPL MIGHT NOT KNOW OR COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT : chinese universities use Mandarin to lecture the courses instead of translating all the rockets sciences technical terms thingy into mongolian or uighur or tibetan language. Mandarin were used as the main language and the key to access to more knowledge in China for thousands of years. The communist wants them to learn mandarin didnt mean that they are trying to destroy their traditions or culture, they just want these races can have easy access to the economy and political system so that they can destroy the gap between the rich and poor. and in fact those legacies were better protected in China inner mongolia than in outer mongolia.
these facts can be very hard for some western people, I am ok if you prefer your countries' media stories. but let's not spam this comment with rubbish. I am just stating the facts.
As a Mongolian born in China, I think the question should be, why there is a Mongolia out of China
Yes. As a han I agree.
My classmate is an inner Mongolian. And he said they are the decedent of real nobility Mongolian. And the Mongolia out side China is found by the slaves been catched to there.. So obviously both sides are different.
Is this real ?
Great Wall was first built during Chinese Warring States period which was in the first millennium BC to defend against Xiongnu nomads, NOT Mongolians(they weren't born yet at that time...) And later against other nomadic people like Rouran, Xianbei and Turkics, etc. In the prosperous periods of strong dynasties like Han, Tang(before Mongolians appeared) and Yuan, Ming and Qing(after Mongolians appeared), lands north of Great Wall were often ruled by China. The most recent one happened during Qing dynasty when Mongolians actively chose to ally with and seek protection from Manchu rulers and so legitimately became Chinese citizens. It was not until 1911 when Qing dynasty collapsed that aristocrats of Outer Mongolia, incited by the Russians, betrayed and separated themselves from the rest of China, and the majority of Mongolians, who are proud to be Chinese. Later, Outer Mongolia was manipulated and brainwashed by Soviet Russians who erased Mongolian people's history and taught them to hate China. An ironic example is that traditional Mongolian script was abandoned in the country of Mongolia, today, people there write in Russian Cyrillics...oooh...democracy...however, most of Mongolians, who live in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region of China are still using traditional Mongolian script freely. Together with those of other ethnic groups in China, living standards of Mongolian Chinese are increasingly improving and they're proud to be Chinese. If you chose a separate path and cut the ties, then we forgive you and your business is no longer ours, but if you try to create problems and disturb our peaceful lives, then there will be no good for you
This is very true in a way! But Mongolian people in Mongolia don’t want to be Proud to be Chinese then we will be just like billions of Chinese.
I certainly don’t and will not ever ever identify myself as Chinese, I’m Mongolian and proud of my traditions as well as history. I do wish that Inner Mongolians and Mongolia will unite one day in future but not include CHINA.
We are not brainwashed, we’re just prideful people. I hope you understand what am trying to say.
@@baybabe914The Republic of China used Outer Mongolia as a bargaining chip to exchange with the Soviet Union for the Soviet Red Army in the three northeastern provinces of China not to support the CCP. The Soviet Union superficially agreed to the Republic of China government, and the Republic of China recognized Mongolia's independence at that time. However, the Soviet Union breached the contract, and the Republic of China later cancelled the declaration of independence for Mongolia. The Republic of China used Mongolia as a bargaining chip, which is enough to show that Outer Mongolia's status in China is not important, and the reason is very simple. Outer Mongolia was a vassal of the Qing Dynasty. Before the Qing Emperor Xuantong announced his abdication, Outer Mongolia began to plan for independence. Outer Mongolia knew that it was weak and defected to Tsarist Russia. When Tsarist Russia was also facing extinction, Outer Mongolia gave up Tsarist Russia and returned to China's Beiyang Government. As a result, the Beiyang government's rough and rough people gave Outer Mongolia a blow, and at this time the Soviet regime was established, Outer Mongolia saw hope, and Outer Mongolia decisively defected to the Soviet Union. What Outer Mongolia did was extremely bad, and both the CCP and the Republic of China saw it, so they both supported Mongolia's independence.
@@baybabe914Only a small number of people in China hope that Mongolia will return to its original state. This part often does not understand the history of Mongolia before and after its independence, and most of China shows that it is unwilling to have friendship with Mongolia. The reason is what I just said. Another reason is that the Outer Mongolians are very dissatisfied with China. As the Chinese say, they will not please someone who hates them. Inner Mongolia and the Manchus established the Qing Empire until the Qing Emperor Xuantong abdicated and handed over power to the Beiyang Government of the Republic of China. Inner Mongolia has always maintained its determination to walk with the Chinese government. Of course, at the end of the Beiyang Government of China, a small number of nobles in Inner Mongolia independently voted for Outer Mongolia, but were suppressed by the Beiyang Government. During World War II, Japan established the Pseudo-Mongol Khanate regime in Inner Mongolia. After the victory of the Anti-Japanese War, all the traitors of the Pseudo-Mongol Khanate of the Japanese Army were tried. Inner Mongolia, China, until today in 2024, the Inner Mongolians in China regard themselves as Chinese.
@@baybabe914You'd better stop dreaming. China's Inner Mongolian view of you is that it is unwilling to join the same dirty waters with you. If the Inner Mongolians in China are the same as you Outer Mongolians, they would have long since fled to Tsarist Russia or the Soviet Union for protection. Why didn't the Inner Mongolians in China do this? This shows that the Inner Mongolians in China have never had the idea of independence. The Inner Mongolians feel that they have been Chinese since ancient times. In addition, since ancient times, the division between the north and south of the desert has not been on the same line. In the Han Dynasty of China, the chest slaves in the north of the desert fled to Europe, and the chest slaves in the south of the desert fled to the royal family of the Han Dynasty. The chest slaves in the south of the desert had been completely incorporated into the Han people until the end of the Eastern Han Dynasty, and many of them had become Han people. Xianbei, Turks, Khitan, Jin and Liao dynasties were all mixed into China. The so-called Mongolian nation was just a small tribe during the Jin and Liao dynasties. The Mongolian bloodline originated from the Xianbei. China has a Mongolian history because the previous northern regimes in China had a deep history of mixing. Mongolia is just a nomadic minority that emerged in an era, and the same is true for Manchuria. The ancestors of the Manchus were the Jurchens, and the Jurchens regarded themselves as the orthodox of the Han culture in the north of the Liao Dynasty.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!
Great video Hilbert.
4 minutes in. Can’t go any further with your pronunciation of “khan”
How would you say it?
@@aqidon ...Qingkiss Han-chaan doesn't sound right, anyway..
He’s saying the K but not saying it like in English.
@@Val.Kyrie. In our mongolia we call CHINGIS HAAN. Write CHINGGIS KHAAN. but hes name is TEMUUJIN. Chinggis means hes TITLE. Khaan means KING. some people call Chinggis King. thats the exactly true CHINGGIS KHAAN or CHINGGIS KING doesnt matter. other people sayd RUSSIAN II NIKOLAI KING. our mongolians call it OROSIIN II NIKOLAI KHAAN etc.
Ganaa Ganbaatar So, the K is silent?
Actually the question should be why there's a Mongolia outside of China cause it was inside China before Qing. (Because of Russia)
During, not before Qing, Qing-Mongol relation is like the act of union in 1707, some considered it as sort of invasion, but the two country were officially merged by marriage, not directly by force.
before qing, mongolia did not even exist ! they were some hobos there.
fs dds, before qing, mongolia did not even exist ! they were some hobos
@@anaishakumar341 Are you serious?????
Burzum vs. Tengger Cavalry: who would win? 🤔
Both released a few good albums before switching gear to produce shit music for the rest of their careers.
Burzum as in Varg Burzum?
@@RemoveChink Yes. Unless you're referring to the poem in The Lord Of The Rings...
MordredTheMightyMetalhead Tengger Cavalry imo, and Varg is great for laughs. Autism makes the white man strong! - Varg 2018
@@RemoveChink 😂😁
I shall weaponise my diagnosis of being autistic like the Japanese did with anime to subvert the BBC in revenge for USA's weaponisation of Einstein's autism for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
My interest in Mongolia and China was reawakened by the netflix show Marco Polo, “may Song Dynasty last 10.000 years!”
Amazingly interesting how Kublai khan started his own dynasty in China
Btw, “Khan” spreek je bijna kompleet uit als “kan” in het Nederlands
Important fact: Republic of Mongolia made one last attempt to unite Inner-Mongolia with itself (before it is too late) in 1945, when the Mongolian army entered Inner-Mongolia together with Red Army and officially declaring war against Japan then. The two armies, Red Army and Mongolian Army, did liberate Inner-Mongolia, but whether it was that Moscow backed-off or Yalta Agreement conditioned or Mao Tsedung insisted it (they say differently), we could not take in back Inner-Mongolia formally then. The rest is the histroy. For this hope and last attempt to unite with our Southerners, Kh. Choibalsan, the leader of Mongolia, (against probably Moscow's interests) is held high in people's hearts.
Great history of my ancestors country....I’m proud to say that my ancestors took part of the rise of the Tang Dynasty..hundreds of years before this history....
Lenin was 1/4 mongol...
@@purevjargalpuujee4845 here I meet you again
There's an error in the claim that China kept Mongols divided. There were 4 different Chinas during that time - 3 were fake, 1 real. The Tanguts, Khitans (Liao), Jurchen (Jin), and Song (Han, the real China). It was the Liao & Jin who kept Mongols divided. The Song lost their territory to both Liao & Jin, and actually allied with Mongols to defeat Jin. The Mongols who saw a weak Song eventually conquer them as well.
I didn't ever understood why the Division occurred . Thank you
Mongols are divided as many tribes. People of Inner Mongolia is the descendants of Chingis Khan & has closer ties with Manchu/China. Whereas people of (Outer) Mongolia was conqurered or converted by Chingis Khan. During Qing Dynasty Inner Mongolian tribes were considered as allies by Manchurian emperors, whereas Outer Mongolian tribes were considered protectorates & second-class.
Huan u cant be more wrong. There might be more golden family descendants in Inner Mongolia because Khubilai khan moved the capital of Mongol empire to Beijing from Kharkhorin and named the empire Yuan. He was the one who preferred living in palaces and eating spiced food rather than living in the steppes as a nomad. Cant blame him tho, he mightve not imagined the chinese or the Manchurians overthrowing his descendants reclaiming their land after few centuries.
But those who preferred to live how they used to live, including half of Khubilai’s relatices (also descendants of Chingis), stayed in the lands of current Mongolia. Current Mongolia is the birth place of Chingis khan, the origin of Mongol empire. It’s just pointless to try to degrade mongolians in Mongolia as less mongolian than the same people who live in a different country.
What you’re saying is the propaganda I hear a lot coming from chinese-educated people.
Hello! I just subscribed and love history too!
A vid about the Mongols? *Mongoltage*
Hah, your country fell to the Mongols you bit ch.
you mongoloid who watches the activist JHON GREEN
wait you watch him for stuff other than what he actively advocates for?
never mind just keep in mind he is a activist as well as a teacher so yeah he does slide some oppinons in here or there.