Nanman: the Lost Tribe of South China DOCUMENTARY
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New Kings and Generals animated historical documentary on the history of China and East Asia will focus on the Nanman, also known as Hundred Yue and Baiyue, who were the indigenous peoples of Southern China and Northern Vietnam. This video will cover their society, economics, warfare and much more, focusing on the conflicts between them and Han Chinese during the Han dynasty and the Three Kingdoms period.
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Nice video
Point out a mistake, Dongyi is not in North Korea, it is near Shandong Province
Great Video! Very Enlightening.
Total war addiction is a pretty accurate description of what I have
I think you
You missed out on Eastern Part of India region bordering Myanmar
Where we have Lots of tribes, different dialects... DM me
These people were treated by Chinese the same way Romans treated Celts. The parallels are very weird - both were amazing blacksmiths, divided into hundreds and thousands of different clans and tribes with varying language differences. Celts were amazing horsemen while Nanman were great sailors. Both got assimilated by those who considered them barbarians. Amazing.
@@cudanmang_theog Vietnam stronk!
I wonder if there are tribes in Europe that consider themselves to be direct Celtic descendants with Celtic languages. Even Vietnamese people can still claim kinship to some of the tribes in China that speak Sino-Vietnamese languages. The "assimiliation" of Yue was never complete with the presence of many of their direct tribal descendants making up of China's recognized minorities...
@@cudanmang_theog LOL not assimilated politically, but culturally, vietnam is just a small version of China. it's a shame that you guys couldn't develop a written language. and had to adapt the Latin alphabet. should've kept the Chinese characters or alter it to suit your spoken language.
@@thewanderingrey8830 the irish?
@@rickr9435 Exactly what I thought, Also Weish I guess
I love this channel's obscure topics. I'd never heard of 90% of this stuff till you guys came along
I also really appreciate Creative Assembly for always sponsoring those vids, i love playing Total War and watching this always gets me in the mood.
FAQs
Me too
SCINTILLAM DEI whats the name of the video?
Obscure to the Western world. Not to China and South-east Asia for example.
They’re legacy reminds me a lot of the Gauls of Europe. A lot of information about them comes from records written by other cultures who considered them “barbarians,” but they in fact were extremely diverse and had a sophisticated culture. They were eventually conquered and assimilated by a powerful neighbor, but still live on in surprising places.
Even the Trưng sisters are comparable to Boudicca and the last-ditch uprising of the Icenni Gauls.
@@samiamrg7please look up monument of Sister‘s conquer, the sister wad sold out by tribe chiefs, in return for continuation of right over lower class Vietnamese.
The sister choose wrong Chinese Emperor to rebel, who hold the record of leading 10,000 men to defeat 400,000 army.
@@weishi9804Doesn't matter if the Trung sister lost then. They started a legacy and won in the end.
The thing of what happen to the Nanman & not to the Celts is that the Nanman transforms into 3 distinct groups (Kra-Dai,Austronesia,Austro-asiatic) & one of them manage to explore & settle almost half of Earth's globe (Austronesia)
Cantonese here. An absolute MASTERPIECE.
I prostrate to your scholarship & production skills.
I've never seen such a detailed English summary of Nanman & Baiyue.
Only 1 thing, it's Meng Huo not Hou!
Cantonese are a subgroup of Han-Chinese, isn't it? The Natives of Guangdong and Guangxi were the Tai-Kadai peoples, and Zhuang for example are a surviving indigenous group in Guangxi.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 Cantoneses are mix of Baiyue & Han. Han culture and gene in dominant position. Similar with Hokkiens. People in Guangxi are more similar to Baiyue than Cantonese. The Hakka is the Han immigrant for Central plain.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 The invasion and conquer from Han to Baiyue is long ago which make it impossible to distinguish clearly Han and Baiyue people In China.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 The assimilation start approximatly after Conquer of Baiyue in Han dynasty. At that time the North China (region such as Henan, Shandong) have significant population and economic superiority than south.
There are sevaral migration activity from north to south after that for war and natural disaster, which weak the influence of Baiyue in south and move the economic center to south (till today).
That is why south Chinese language is so different with the mandarin (which is from north).
@@jackjackyphantom8854 Han Chinese have huge population number advantage than group around because of many reasons, which significantly help to assimilation.
These assimilation also amplify the Han or we so-called Chinese. That is why we have so large Han Chinese group today.
Similar thing happen on Manchu conqueror. They move to Han culture under the incredibly huge population dominant of Han Chinese. Their area of origin, manchuria, also become Han Chinese region by the migration activity called ChuangGuandong at the last phase of Qing empire.
Speaking as a Northern Thai;(albeit of Han Chinese descent) I went to Yunnan on vacation and visited a town dominated by the Dai people.(Xishuangbanna in mandarin) Their cultures and traditions were exactly the same as at home, even the food, and the local dialect.
Haha my friend told me the same thing, but the other way around: her grandma is from the countryside of Kunming and speaks a dialect. She went to north Thailand with a group of friends last year and only she understood what they were saying
@@MrGod47 that's what I heard too. Now we have corroboration.
Maybe ppl ran off to the south to avoid the war and took the land and became Thailand
@@ngevacorp That's exactly what happened. It wasn't a single event, but a slow migration south that basically kicked off each time a Chinese Dynasty collapsed. By the time the Tai people arrived in what is now Thailand, the Cambodians were weakening as an empire. We just sort of...gave them a push down the stairs >_>. I think that's why they hate us, ha ha.
I like to think of myself as knowledgeable in history in general, yet amazingly I had never even heard of the Nanman before this video (although I've never accepted China's claim that over 90% of the country is ethnically Han Chinese)
Im Maori and I wholeheartedly believe that some of my ancestors came from somewhere near the South China Sea. It's no coincidence that our language is exactly the same or has similar words to our Asian counterparts.
@Paul Frei plus more protein in their diet.
Do you think it's just Maori or all Polynesians?
@@LuisAldamizWell, I'm in college right now, and what I've learned in my Hawaiian studies class (I'm Hawaiian, btw) is that the Polynesians originated from mainland southeast Asia to south Indonesia and then found their way to the Polynesian islands. IDK how true that is, but it's a possibility
@@A_K808 Taiwan, Mainland Southeast Asia are different.. they are Austroasiatic not Austronesian.
@Charles Huang Not really lol
Brilliantly done. Especially the visuals and the art. And amazing research on your behalf mate. Cheers! Looking forward for more ❤️
This episode is exceptionally well written, the chronology, the names, the convergence of various countries/people's origins, the maps, everything is top quality, highly educational and very entertaining nevertheless. I've watched many episodes on this channel, they are all pretty good, but this one stand out by a far margin ahead, IMO. THANK YOU.
Thanks the archive of the Chinese documents...some documents of the encounter with greek and other civilization is still exist nowdays
Shamoke: "All we had to do, was follow the damn river, Liu Bei!"
Liu Bei:" Yeeee... no I like the shade of the forest."
Lmao only the real will get this one
@@FD_Stalker Next day, **fire**
@@sim8051 Luo Guanzhong likes his armies well-done.
Only the OG will remember this
Fun fact: The diplomat Han Wudi sent to Nan Yue was a former lover of the Nan Yue Queen Dowager. They rekindled their old flame and were slaughtered by the Nan Yue court. That gave Wudi the pretext to invade.
Han Wu Di was like the Trajan of the Han Empire. The guy fought a massive war against the Xiongnu nomads, and routed them in their homeland.
When will kingdoms learn? killing diplomats and emmisars is calling for war
That sounds like a set up in first place
Actually, Han Wudi（汉武帝） is his title, which means The Emperor of Martial of Han Dynasty. His real name is Liu Che(刘彻). All of the emperors in Han Dynasty have the family name Liu（刘）.
@@cristhianramirez6939 It seems in the past when a ruler or the court got angry.They would forget the rules concerning the treatment of messengers. :/
The Malays still used that palm wood armor during Portuguese occupation in the Peninsula. We call the wood Kayu Nibong. it is super hard, even the British said this in their records that an 18 century rifle bullet cannot penetrate it. That is why most fort that was build by Indonesian and Malaysian and also khmer used Nibong wood as palisade.
可以用火呀😂诸葛亮周瑜都用火消灭了南方少数民族
Thanks so much for this overview of ancient Chinese history, it really helps broaden my perspective.
Kings and General: the craziest part is they let this guy go seven times
Me: there’s a man who can control animals like a land aquaman and this is what you are concerned about
Should he be called Terraman ?
@@QuangHoang-ps3mm AniMan is a hero name that's surprisingly not used yet...
At least they clarified why the Nanman can use Tigers in the Total War DLC - although I've yet to hear if that feature is turned off or modified on the non-romance mode as with most other elements from a romance run.
@@fern1009 They are not. Records mode also allows Elephants, tigers and some of the abilities.
Lol!!
Hah! I remember the Nanman from ROTK 8. Once you conquered the Southwest provinces, they paid tribute to you and offered you Elephants. Thank you for covering China during the this period ^.^
I hate that campaign, the elephant can knock you down and push you down to a corner and you're dead because when you stand up you're immediately knocked down again.
ROTK 8 will always be my favorite of the franchise.
@@sl6706 Same here. Lord knows how many hours and smokes I sank into that game 😂
ROTK...?
NobleKorhedron Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Two major aspects of general Yue culture not mentioned in this video are their headhunting (猎首) and affinity for water battles (好水战)。
Also, there's another notable woman warrior among the Yue, who was usually just referred to as the Maiden of Yue (越女) in the historical records. She was an accomplished swordswoman during the Warring States period, said to have come from the "Southern Forests" near or within the State of Yue. She expounded one of the earliest attested martial arts theories in China (complete with application of Yin-Yang concept). She imparted her skills to the State of Yue's army and thus had a hand in helping the State of Yue to conquer the State of Wu.
@江永生 the 越女论剑 story was first mentioned in Han Dynasty records.
Afterwards it was also referenced in other places, including a martial arts treatise by Chang Naizhou, all predating
Jin Yong's time. Jin Yong's contribution is just that: to turn it into a novel.
woman in the Philippines still follow our ancient culture today.. woman in our country always lead our country and hold higher position in government.
Can you please share more about the headhunting part because, in India the ethnic group of Nagas people has the historical background of headhunting, and they are one of the tribes Communities and according to the folklore and wars tactics they are really good in hiding.
@@yosudathapa6150 headhunting is very common among tribes in Maritime Southeast Asia during pre colonial. here in the Philippines we have famous female headhunter tribe against japanese during world war 2.
@@ColoniaMurder20 oh that's really cool, even here during the British colonial rule they were not able to capture the Nagas area because they were really good in war tactics and they practice headhunting and the person with the highest number of enemies heads are considered as warriors .thank you for the informations
This is really one of the most beautiful videos you guys have done. Beautiful in its art, story, and message. Well done.
Long time podcast and youtube lurker. I must say, thank you K&G for providing consistent and thought-provoking content. Keep up the good work!
The art in this video is breath taking.
I don't know how you do it.
This was wonderful to watch, very informative, and what a beautiful graphics!
Wow! This channel makes really high quality documentaries, and this video explained the history of Yue very well!
Man, I've been watching your guys' vids since you made it to the frontpage of reddit that one time a few years ago. Thanks for all the content!
What a fascinating video. Kings and Generals may just be the most interesting channel on all of RUclips.
Loved this documentary. Beautiful. So much appreciation for Kings and Generals.
I am stunned by the level of detail you managed to assemble. I can remember a snippet of history from a recent Vietnamese worker at my job. It was fascinating then and even more so forty years later.
As a speaker of Cantonese, i can understand some Vietnamese words amongst other words from south East Asian countries. Very interesting 🤔
well vietnamese do refer cantonese as brothers and more closely related to them than chinese
SCINTILLAM DEI go for it. And it sounds like a rollercoaster cuz it has 9 tones compared to mandarin which has 4 😂
Me too some Vietnamese and Cantonese words are suprisingly similar. In addition, my father is Taiwanese and my mother isVietnamese therefore I realize that vietnamese and hokkien (a language is widely used in Taiwan) are quite similar.
@@gnak2 Lmao，I Chinese and cantonese，dont associate me with Vietnam like we are the same people.
it is because vietnamese also mainly borrowed from cantonese during classical chinese era
Thank you for making me aware of this obscure part of history. Very interesting and well put together video.
Wow, I really enjoyed this one!
Excellent work! Thank you! Thank you!
Thanks for the upload. I had been exposed to much of the information before, but this was the first time I was able to see it in a compiled form and in English.
Our tribe (Biaju/Ngadju)ancestors came from Yunan Region in Southern China...Even now in our island of Borneo, there are hundreds of tribes with different dialects and languages yet share almost identical cultural roots with each others, hence we refer to all of our tribes as D'yak/Dayak (Which means: "People" or "Those who dwell in") then followed by region or villages where it came from.
As example, my tribe is Dayak Biaju/Ngadju which means "Those who dwell in inner region of the island" or "People of the inner region".
Our closest kin are the Dayak Ot Danum (Those who dwell on the rivers/riverside), and Dayak Bakoempai (Those who dwell on the grasslands).
The more recent out of Taiwan theory is more widely accepted now as it has better linguistic evidence supporting it.
Yup,dayak people linguistically and culturally related to the Malays and Indonesian ancestor Austronesian people as stated in this video
Can we understand each other? I am zhuang Nanning Guangxi ( Quang Tay).
I'm from Sabah too , never know or hear dayak from Yunnan . Where you get the info ?
@@chinmungkuan8551 his info is likely from the older theory of proto-malayic migration down from Yunnan into Sundaland/Maritime SEA
while a large genetic component of those living in Western SEA is from these peoples, likely the progenitor of Austroasiatic languages (Vietnamese, Aslian, Cambodian, Munda), the majority genetic component and definite linguistic origin of the peoples of the Malay Archipelago (ergo including the Dayaks in Borneo) is of the Austronesian family that started in South China before moving over to Taiwan around 3000~2000 BC
The "Out of Taiwan" theory is currently the newer and more accepted theory of the two
All because of LGZ's fantastically exaggerated tellings in the Romance, many historians doubted Meng Huo even existed. Now the reason why Zhuge Liang had fire spewing contraptions was because of the fabled wicker armor (which was probably just Rattan) the Nanman soldiers wore, which incidentally made them invulnerable to attacks while also allowing them to fight with incredible speed and swiftness. This mystical wicker armor made Meng Huo's troops nigh unstoppable but like everything else made of wood was susceptible to fire. So Zhuge Liang needed to find a way to burn Meng Huo's troops, which he did by inventing a anachronistic flamethrower.
Zhuge Liang's incendiary weapons by the way was most likely based on the Pen Huo Qi (噴火器) or "fire spraying device". It first made an appearance on the battlefields of China in 919 CE during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period, which took place at least seven hundred years after the Romance of the Three Kingdoms timeline. These types of flamethrowers could shoot a continuous stream of naptha and was a highly effective weapon. They could be used to burn down enemy fortifications, mounted on walls and towers to rain down fire or project walls of flame against incoming hostile forces, and can even be placed on a four wheeled pushcart to sow terror on the battlefield.
Ho Lee Shi personally I feel like the elephant part is legit because many Viet armies in history were famed for using elephants.
@Ho Lee Shi the tigers are probably fake, the elephants are probably real, chinese states in the warring states period used them in war
@@mxn1948 the warring states period was over four hundred years before the three kingdoms period, at which elephant was already extinct in northern China. I had read somewhere that they were still used until 5-6 century CE in the southwest though.
@@mxn1948 tigers are real. They just can't be controlled so well to be used in large scale in an army though. War tigers are a thing in ancient China, just not very common.
The flamethrower only has archeological evidence dating back to 919. But most people who study Chinese history know that there are new findings very often proving things that seem anachronistic.
For example, Qin Shi Huang Di was thought to be a mythical figure head from 4000 BC. We recently found his necropolis and proved he is real only about 30 years ago.
When I was younger, the first Chinese empire with evidence was about 2000 BC. But now we have evidence that shows existence of an empire 8000 BC.
So cool that this topic was covered. I remember reading the book and wondering about these people and what became of them.
I've read a lot of books about Eastern history and listen to podcasts and other RUclips videos about Chinese history and I learned more about the history of this region from your 20 minute video then all of that stuff combined.
This is easily, the go to channel for world history. I've learned more from this channel in 1 year, than I did in 4 years of schooling. ✌
At last, an episode for the Baiyue people. I used to look for episodes like this as well as like the imjin war. Finally, you created one with a kings and generals version. Great Video!!!
Fascinating! I came for the battles, stayed for the great history and cultural lessons. Well done.
A great one to watch. Thanks for your work!
Outstanding production and interesting as always. Thank you so very much.
We studied this migration down south theory in the Philippines... (out of Taiwan Theory)
Our professor, being an Archeologist and Anthropologist stated how ancient tools dug up was older in the northern parts of the country (Batanes Islands,) but younger to the southernmost regions of our nation...
A "pattern of migration southwards." This study is relatively new and alien to most Filipinos, since the accepted version was that our ancestors came from the South....
sadly they completely glossed over the philippines again in this video
Can you suggest me some books on the migration topic 🙏
@Zhejun Zhang do check out the Naga tribe of North East India, my tribe may be the remnant of the Nanman tribe.
In the 19th century it was assumed that Filipino's are descended from Malay's, the Taiwan connection wasn't established yet. Sadly the Philippines didn't catch up with the facts yet.
@Hernando Malinche How do you know that the Nagas are Sino Tibetan ?
Really high-quality video. Hope that one day you could make a video about wars in China's Warring States period. That would be fascinating!
As a Southern Chinese, I have always wondered why our cuisine are way more similar to Vietnamese cuisine in comparison to Northern Chinese cuisine. In addition, some Cantonese words sound more similar to Vietnamese than Mandarin. After watching this video, a thought came to my mind, that I realized that historically all Chinese dynasties were founded in the north along with captials that are always located in the North and that we of the south are always ruled by Northerners. We are a conquered people that are absorbed and assilmilated into the Chinese state. 😂
又来冒充了？哈哈
你只能代表你自己，湘菜川菜浙菜粤菜真的一样吗？？😅
@@cgm007 RUclips上好多越南人冒充
I think history would have taken a better turn if the south ruled instead 😉
你被征服牛魔了 除非你是少数民族，不然自己滚回去查一查家谱， 汉朝时期的南方人口还没一两百万，今天大部分南方人都是北方人移民，特别是东南
This might be my favorite Chinese history video. It's so hard to find info on the Yue or really even any historical minority of antiquity, and you not only presented it beautifully, you somehow did it *from the Yue perspective* despite the lack of great sources. Keep the vids like this coming!
This is beautiful! I first read The Romance of the Three Kingdoms when I was about 13 years old (when Dynasty Warriors had picqued my interest), now I'm almost 30 and finally I've got an answer to where the Nanman came from and what happened to them. Thanks K & G!
I always wonder who the Nanman were and wonder why I got a weird affinity for them. But I still end up siding with Wu in the end. I never like Shu cuz Liu Bei a fucking cannibal. Fuck that guy.
HOKKIEN, CANTONESE, VIETNAMESE, HAKKA, TAIWANESE & TAIWAN ABORIGINES, ZHUANG, YI, MIAO, TANKA etc. All are brothers and sisters - Descended from THE PROUD and RICH BAI YUE PEOPLES.
Thanks for clarifying your name so there's no confusion
They are hiding in Vietnam haha
@@chessonso2610 Hello, I am Polynesian and descend from Taiwanese aboriginals. Would it be a stretch to say that we're connected?
*_LOVE IT! You made nice video._*
Its very interesting, as someone who is part of the Malayan people group, the possibility that our very culture was once a culture borrowed but forgotten is very fascinating. Especially the tattoo, which are an integral part of all Southeast Asian and Pacific peoples. To have such an influence in our culture - it is surprising to have never heard of the Baiyue.
The Baiyue were basically the Pheonicians of the East, colonizing large swaths of maritime Asia and the Pacific.
百越并不是一个民族，南蛮和百越也不是一回事，这视频懂得一点皮毛就在那里胡说八道。汉语叙事体系称所有南方未开化的人和地区为蛮，夏商时楚地（今天湖南湖北）是南蛮、苗蛮。百越在基因上是接近的，但是发展程度天差地别。5000年的良渚人，也是越人之一，已经有国家形态，建设了全世界最早的水利工程。而汉朝时期（2000年前）的越南还是穴居状态，非常原始。
The worst part happening in the southern part of South East Asia is the importation of Arabic culture that has little roots to this region. The folks only want to destroy and assimilate others into the desert belief. Unfortunately many local blindly follow and a lot of historical practice and belief are forgotten or deny.
what is malayan culture?.
@@ge7sur3nka34 a good example are Tarian Mak Yong and wayang kulit. TMY is even banned in PAS states as it deem unholy ... You probably doesn't even know what's your culture heritage when asking what's the culture. Too bad a lot of folks are brainwashed since young of everything outside of what some 7th century man did is not right. They lack logical thinking or critical thinking for themselves.
@@MarkzOng I am from Mori tribe and even tho i know wayang kulit, it is a javanese culture, certainly not mine and malay. Back to my question, what is malayan culture?
Kings and Generals always coming in the clutch.
Always got the best videos and topics. Learning while being entertained.
Jordan-esque
@GoodGirlKate the second tour lol
@GoodGirlKate This video so wrong about My country Việt Nam because this is history of china write .Everry thing is wrong because china aways p,redatory in every time in history of human. Ancient they p,redatory culture now they p,redatory technology of EU and USA . 1 bilion 400 people so idio,t .jj
HOKKIEN, CANTONESE, VIETNAMESE, HAKKA, TAIWANESE & TAIWAN ABORIGINES, ZHUANG, YI, MIAO, TANKA etc. All are brothers and sisters - Descended from THE PROUD and RICH BAI YUE PEOPLES.
Haven't even watched it and have already pressed the Like button! That's how much I value the content made by Kings and Generals!
@GoodGirlKate man, you sure love commenting on this channels videos, no blame tho
This might just be the information i've been looking for for years
this is one of the most important channels in the whole youtube
Thank you for your kind words!
This is incredibly detailed and I learned a lot about my heritage. Thank you so much for making this!
and interesting thing is, the chinese name of Vietnam is "Yue Nan", which means South of Yue
Or Yues of the South.
Or Southwards? Cuz Viet/Yue means forward?
嘉隆元年（清嘉慶七年，1802年），阮福映建立阮朝。次年表请清朝册封“南越国王”，最终清仁宗嘉慶帝改以“越南国王”之名冊封，阮朝正式国号即为“越南”。这也是越南国名的由来，取代之前的名称「大越」，一直沿用至今。
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阮福映表请以「南越」二字锡封。上谕大学士等曰：「南越」之名，所包甚广。考之前史，今广东、广西地亦在其内。阮福映即有安南，亦不过交趾故地，何得遽称「南越」？该国先有越裳旧地，后有安南全壤。天朝褒赐国号，著用「越南」二字，以「越」字冠其上，仍其先世疆域；以‘南’字列于下，表其新赐藩封；且在百越之南，著于《时宪书》内，将「安南」改为「越南」。
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-- 《嘉庆重修一统志》卷五五三
Năm Gia Long thứ nhất (Năm Gia Khánh Thanh triều thứ 7, 1802), Nguyễn Phúc Ánh kiến lập Triều Nguyễn. Năm sau dâng biểu xin Thanh Triều sắc phong "Nam Việt quốc vương", cuối cùng Hoàng đế Thanh Nhân Tông Gia Khánh đổi tên ra sắc phong thành "Việt Nam quốc vương", Triều Nguyễn chính thức lấy quốc hiệu là "Việt Nam". Đây cũng là nguồn gốc tên nước Việt Nam, thay cho tên cũ trước đây là Đại Việt và dùng cho tới ngày nay.
"Nguyễn Phúc Ánh đề nghị xin sắc phong hai chữ "Nam Việt". Các thượng dụ đại học sỹ (những người soạn chiếu thư cho hoàng đế) nói: cái tên Nam Việt vốn bao gồm vùng đất Quảng. Xét theo sử cũ gồm vùng đất Quảng Đông, Quảng Tây ngày nay. Nguyễn Phúc Ánh có được An Nam chẳng qua chỉ là vùng đất xưa của Giao Chỉ, sao có thể gọi là Nam Việt được? Nước ấy trước kia thuộc đất Việt Thường cũ, sau này hoàn toàn nằm trong vùng đất An Nam. Thiên triều nên ban quốc hiệu là "Việt Nam", đặt chữ Việt đứng trước biểu thị vẫn là cương vực đời cũ, ghép chữ Nam đứng sau là tên mới được sắc phong, lại là phía nam của Bách Việt, được ghi trong "Thời hiến thư", vậy đổi tên "An Nam" thành "Việt Nam".
"Gia Khánh trùng tu nhất thống chí" quyển 553.
@@hanyawang4324 nhưng mà theo sử thì có vẻ họ là một liên minh giữa các quốc gia có văn hoá giống nhau? Theo sử thì hai bà trưng còn tập hợp được các quận ở miền Nam Trung Quốc được mà?
@@hanyawang4324 sử ta thì thế rồi nhưng sử Trung cx chép thế mà ?
learned so much, thanks!
I am so glad you are doing this!!
The Yi people (Tibeto-Burman) of southern China actually recognize Meng Huo as one of their ancestors.
HOKKIEN, CANTONESE, VIETNAMESE, HAKKA, TAIWANESE & TAIWAN ABORIGINES, ZHUANG, YI, MIAO, TANKA etc. All are brothers and sisters - Descended from THE PROUD and RICH BAI YUE PEOPLES.
@Jacky Phantom well duh, but not like we ain't got baiyue blood in us, heck, historical "han" kingdoms that would pop up from time to time during "China done fucked up" periods still uses their baiyue names (Wu, Min, etc.). Let's put it this way, even if you're only 30% black in the US, that still means you're DESCENDED (Not black, but DESCENDED) from black people. So your argument is moot.
@@mekichiew8282 It's more like 2%.
@@MRT-co1sd Eeeh, i would say it's more like up to 15% the further south you go from SuNan(South of Nanjing, North South divider of China), we're pretty distinctive physically from the northerners.
as an YI people，i am more like the self-called nationality name “Nasurp”，Menghuo‘s history is stigmatized in pop culture ，especially by the fictional book The Romance of The Three Kingdoms 。and sadly most of the Yi people were assimilated in YunNan province， they’ve forgotten the root of their own culture， lost the identification of the nationality， they are ，most of them ， no different from Han people。 and more，Nasurp has a very unique culture system，mythology，origin，history，religion，language，lifestyle。there are many nationalities have extincted in history，thank god we remain exist （about 10 million population so far）。
Great video and I hate to nitpick, but the Trung sisters of Vietnam rebelled against China’s Eastern Han dynasty in 43 AD, not 43 BC, which would be the Western Han period instead. Otherwise a very informative video. Thanks.
I think Trung sisters rebellion is biggest part , but Video just focus to total war commercial.
Cư dân Mạng lmao ok sure. Blaming on the ccp for that.
@@cudanmang_theog Do you know what is actually the cause of the Trung sister rebellion. It is overglorified by the Vietnamese until the true reason is obscured. Around 25 AD, China's Xin Dynasty just collapsed and the whole country was in turmoil. One of the Trung sister husband was killed by a tyrannical warlord, not unlike something 200 years later. They rebelled for vengeance but later wanted to be warlord themselves (not surprising) but was quell by the Han armies which succeed in uniting the whole China.
@@cudanmang_theog so, what was the ACTUAL cause of the uprising then? You didn't answer the question. Wikipedia stated very clearly it was due to Trung Trac husband being murdered by the tyrannical warlord and she cannot find anyone to address the unjust because the whole of China was in chaos then. There is nothing nationalistic here.
@@SonPham-nx3sy There isn' even a battle described. Clearly commercial, lol
Great video I first learned of the Nanman from playing Dynasty warriors as a young lad.
This is exactly what I was looking for when I saw the Nanman DLC coming. I didn't know anything about them and wanted to educate. This is the best video I have found so far! Thank you
Kings and Generals and Total War for sponsoring it! :)
This was a great video on a subject hard to find info on. Having been to Hunan and Guangxi in particular, and seeing the minority people like the Miao and Zhuong it explains a lot. Also the museum in Guangzhou of the tomb of the Nanyue emperor is worth seeing .
Amazing content, expertly presented.
Great video, especially the music and the whole Chinese style!
If it weren't for kings and generals I'd never have known of this. Thank You for making such interesting content guys.
As a Vietnamese who studied history, this is a well made documentary and very well done to you, Devin, Leo and the other Kings and Generals.
Hi, I'm also a history student from North East India .
I'm interested in this migration study, can you suggest some books for further reading 🙏
I'm planning to write a thesis on my tribe. My tribe i.e. the Naga is quite similar with the above mentioned tribe .
We are ethnically and culturally akin to the Chinese people
@@duovaduo1653 As they mentioned in the video, the records of these peoples are rarer than diamond, all we have left are lores and legends. But in our culture, the Hundred Yue (we call them Bách Việt) were mostly eradicated after the Qin and Han's conquests. Only the Lac Viet (our direct ancestors) and Au Viet (ancestors to the people living in modern day Guangxi and Guangdong and the northern parts of Vietnam). I can't suggest any book but maybe you can try contact the Association for Asian Studies, maybe they can help. Good luck to your thesis
Vu Nguyen Hoang Au Viet are in modern Zhejiang province. They inhabitants were named after Ou River or Ou Jiang (甌江)
Kinh Vietnamese are not related to Han Chinese. But some Southern Chinese are related due to common ancestory of Bai Yue/ Bach Viet tribes. Cantonese for example are a mix of Han (Qin Dynasty) and Yue tribes. Kinh Vietnamese are admixture of two Bai Yue/ Bach Viet tribes that used to live in Southern China. The Ou Yue/ Au Viet and Luo Yue/ Lac Viet. More likely mix between Tai-Kadai/ Kra-Dai and Austroasiatic speaking people.
Base on DNA viet people are definitely relate to han chinese, for bai yue i think they are ancestor of austronesian people who spread to oceanic island
@@nak.lanangnope base on DNA viet people definitely relate Thai people
An amazing and highly informative and educational video!
Urm, the Miao are natives to the lower yellow and yangtze. We are descendants of Chu.
"You shall never subdue me Zhuge Liang, Never"
- Meng Huo, King of the Nanman
The broader idea is that it will never subdue the Baiyue people. And to this day it is impossible to subdue Vietnam after 2000 years
then been captured 7 times😂
Jorel Williams Chinese fiction story. Can't believe anything Chinese
@@liveshow123456789 never is a strong word
@@liveshow123456789 Oh yeah? Why believe in Chinese money and sell your women to those poor Chinese peasants?
I never knew any of this! Thank you for teaching me!
Ive been to Viet Nam a few times. The Trong Sisters are considered the first of a long line of leaders who fought for Vietnamese independence that ended with Uncle Ho. They are revered and honored.
The BAI YUE: Ancestors of Southern Chinese people
Hi, the Trung Sisters, not Trong
@@balo700 Vietnamese women always strong, in past and in present :)
The trung sisters are heroes. Can’t say the same about Ho chi minh
@@Mikelowrey90 wtf Trung sisters rebellition was AD 11 AD 43, ho chi minh was modern vietnam , its fuking odd to compare people at different history
Your artist's depiction of that dragon-summoning ceremony will prove the stuff of my nightmares in dreams yet to come. Great video, guys, as usual.
it is nice to scare you with paper and ink! Thanks for watching! :)
@@otgunz I assume you are the artist? Your work is excellent. Congratulations!
Thank you for doing this!!! Makes me want to play Dynasty Warriors again
Great illustration and explanation thank you
Thank you for the video
Spent a lot of time with Vietnamese people (Southern and Northern). Their history is extremely interesting and the peoples are much more diverse than most assume. The Southern, Northern, Central highland (Montagnard) people are very different from each other.
Lac Long Quan wasn’t the first king/emperor of Baiyue confederation. Shennong was the first god emperor of Baiyue nations.
Kinh Duong Vuong was the son of Emperor Ming and father of Lac Long Quan. Kinh Duong Vuong was the first leader of Baiyue peoples. Au Co was the daughter of Emperor Ai, elder brother of Kinh Duong Vuong.
Both China and Vietnam believed in the historicity of Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors period. It’s rather a really complex issue. Vietnam and China have come into an agreement of not ostracizing each other based on historical past. This is a reason why you barely see China mentioned any element of Vietnam in Chinese history, while Vietnam doesn’t make any media of glorifying the killings of Chinese (like those anti-japan movie in China). Because of this, Vietnam has been very quiet on the claims of Nanyue. Ho Chi Minh himself as well as all Vietnamese mandarins openly recognized the legitimacy of Zhao Tuo. China again fears separatism, so Vietnam respects Chinese sovereignty through quietly not mentioning Nanyue stories.
You're not Vietnamese, why do you know about this so clearly?
I'm surprised at your understanding on this complicated matter. To be honest, most Vietnamese people don't know it.
@@datduong2028 Bởi vì tôi biết sự thật thế nào. Thực sự, sử gia thời phong kiến không cho rằng có chuyện 1000 năm Bắc Thuộc mà chỉ cho là 1000 năm vô chủ. Lúc Mã Viện đem quân đánh phía Nam, thì ông ta phát hiện ra là bản đồ thời Đông Hán là bố láo vì có quá nhiều tộc người Việt không được lưu vào hệ thống hộ khẩu. Cuộc dẹp loạn Trưng Vương thực ra là để kiểm kê lại hệ thống hộ khẩu ở phía Nam, nhưng người Hán vẫn thất bại khi vùng đất phía Nam luôn luôn xảy ra bất ổn. Ngoài vùng Lĩnh Nam quái đản, người Hán gần như để cho bọn Việt ở Vân Nam tự chủ suốt vài trăm năm, rồi vùng Phúc Kiến của Mân Việt cũ cũng có những người Việt đứng ra tự chủ đuổi người Hán khoảng vài thế kỷ. Sự kiểm soát của vùng đất phía Nam của chính quyền phía Bắc TQ thực sự quá hạn chế nên các tỉnh phía Nam TQ vẫn cực kỳ khác biệt cho đến tận bây giờ, Hong Kong là ví dụ điển hình khi họ vẫn cho mình khác biệt với Trung Hoa.
Nếu bạn đọc tài liệu của người Hán vào thời Sĩ Nhiễp, họ phàn nàn là ở lại khu vực Lĩnh Nam như là đi tù ở vùng khi ho cò gáy. Người bản địa không chịu bỏ tục man di, và gần như công cuộc Hán hoá thất bại hoàn toàn. Còn chưa nói, là hào trưởng địa phương quá mạnh và có thể xây dưng quân đội dẹp toàn bộ người Hán. Mỗi lần người Hàn bình định lại mọi thứ, họ vẫn phải giữ gìn hệ thống hào trưởng với việc trả tiền và giữ gìn vị trí của người hào trưởng đã nổi loạn đó. Câu chuyện này y hệt như Mỹ đang bình định ở Afghanistan, và hàng chục đế chế khác đã từng cai trị Afghanistan. Bạn chiếm được vùng đất nhưng không thể bình định được con người với thiên nhiên khu vực này.
@@Joshua_Nguyen0630 Tôi khuyên bạn nên tìm một cách nói chuyện khác, vì cái con số kia là khá lỗ mãn. Bọn Tây không thích thằng nào dùng chủ nghĩa dân tộc cực đoan để tung hô thanh thế vì bản thân họ cũng không quan tâm là ngày xưa tổ tiên họ bị Lã Mã với Thiên Chúa Giáo triệt tiêu nền văn minh "man rợ" của Châu Âu. Thằng TQ ngày xưa cùng lắm giết được vài người để ra oai với dân bản địa trong khi chẳng thay đổi nhân tâm phản loại của Bách Việt, suốt ngàn năm. Bạn nên dùng số liệu khoảng triệu người chết thời Minh Thuộc vì đó mới thực sự có thể là lần Bắc Thuộc đầu tiên. Trước mấy 1000 năm kia, người Hán chỉ đem người đến định cư và cắm cái lá cờ để xác định chủ quyền vùng đất mặc dù họ không thể kiểm soát được nó.
@@cudanmang_theog Trên thế giới không có ai là dân tộc thuần chủng cả. Kể cả bọn Hán của TQ bây giờ đáng nhẽ ra phải gọi là Hồ Hán vì chúng nó bị Ngũ Hồ, Mông Cổ và Mãn Châu đồng hoá giết sạch. Tiếng Phồn Thể của TQ giờ rất giống tiếng nói của bọn du mục, trong khi văn hoá Hán cao siêu thì được người VN và Nam TQ gìn giữ (cụ thể là Đài Loan). Bạn có thể nói rằng người Việt là Hán thật còn bọn TQ hiện đại là Hán giả, vì bản thân các vị hoàng đế VN ta coi người Việt mình là Hán (theo mặt văn hoá-văn minh). Các cụ toàn gọi mình là Hán nhân, trong khi gọi bọn TQ là Bắc Quốc nhân hay là người Ngô. Cái sự thù hằn giữa TQ và VN xa xưa mang tính chính trị-văn hoá hơn là quân sự, vì người Việt cho mình là Hán thật còn bọn Bắc quốc là Hán giả. Kiểu như là bọn Đế Quốc Đông La Mã tranh luận với bọn Đế quốc La Mã Thần thánh xem ai là người La Mã thật, rồi sau này các cường quốc Châu Âu và Mỹ cũng tranh luận xem ai là La Mã thật nữa!
Còn câu chuyện của Lý Tiến chỉ là ví dụ nhỏ. Vì đã có rất nhiều cuộc nổi loạn ở khắp phía Nam TQ, mà người Hán đa số phải nhường quyền tự chủ cho hào trưởng địa phương. Đó là lý do tại sao chúng ta thấy ngàn năm "Bắc thuộc" mà xảy ra hàng trăm cuộc khởi nghĩa lớn của hào trưởng, mà tại sao người Hán không triệt tiêu được thế lực hào trưởng. Đơn giản, họ không thể dẹp được hệ thống hào trưởng ở cả vùng Lĩnh Nam lẫn toàn bộ miền nam TQ. Mỗi lần họ đuổi được dân chống đổi khỏi giết chóc người Hán, thì bọn phản động chạy trốn xây dựng lực lượng để phá rối nên quan lại Hán phải phong chức và tăng thưởng để gìn giữ hoà bình.
The drawings and animations are top notch! love the style
thanks
Thank you for the knowledge Kings and thank you Dynasty Warriors for opening my eyes to Chinese history 🧡
Baiyue is the Chinese way of saying Bach Viet. This whole documentary is about the modern Vietnamese people’s ancestors. After the Chinese sent their army south and captured the Bach viet’s land. A lot of the immigrated to Au Lac, which is modern day Hanoi, Northern Vietnam. But don’t feel bad for the Vietnamese. After a 1000 years of Chinese domination, The Vietnamese people broke away and became an independent nation again. Spreading further down south, taking the Champa’s land and the Khmer’s land. Which is how Vietnam’s land borders are what it is now. It’s a fascinating history between the Chinese and Vietnamese. Intertwined For millenniums.
@George Nathanael sorry but noone in my country call themself Han. Ok?
@George Nathanael Yeah sure, we called ourself Han and the Han didn't invade us nor we didn't fight them back for the last two millenia.
@George Nathanael He is a governor sent by the Tang emperor, kind like a colonist. The first Vietnamese true ruler is Ngo Quyen, after he kicked an Southern Han invasion back to China in 938.
@George Nathanael Nope. Ngo Quyen is a son of Ngo Man, a Vietnamese official working in Duong Lam, the village from where a tons of famous Vietnamese historical figures came from. One of them is Phung Hung, a Vietnamese military leader revolt against the Tang in the 8th century. The Trung sisters mother is also from this village.
@George Nathanael how do you know? did you time travel to test his DNA or something?
As a Naga from indo burma with over 20 tribes completely unassimilated till a century ago, I guess some of Nanman tribes are not lost. Practice of animism, weretigers, tattoes, mohawks, warring tribes, believed to have moved of southern china to escape the tyranny of a king about 2000 years ago. The pictures depicted in the video and the game as well are strikingly similar.
Kuzote Nuh A similar process to that in the video happened in almost all parts of India except the 5 southern states
@George Nathanael Records of Naga settlement dates back 2000 years, i.e as early as the rise of Qing dynasty. Anthropologist J P Mills had described the tribes Kuzha and Chokri as eastern Angami ( a sub tribe of Angami) based on similarity of dialect, without understanding the traditional complex which created dispute. Naga tribes did came from the Yangtze or Yellow river region. My perception of Nagas is more of the conflicts in the first part of the video. Naga tribes are a conglomerate of a variety of cultures based on the variety of priesthood and its original practices. A taboo for a tribe can be legal for another tribe. War can continue between villages or clans for many generations while keeping peace with another or forming allies to protect each other.
Very Good analysis. Naga's may somehow be related with the Nanman. Without written records its hard to come to that conclusion but Most of Traditions and cultures of the Nanman are quite prevalent in the Naga societies today.
Naga tribe also similar to natives of borneo culturally.
@@kuzotenuh6062
Nagas are the native people of Naga region. They don't have any legend or myths of migration from somewhere else. All the Tenyima people claim to have originated from Khezhakeno which is near Nagaland-Manipur border. And Ao and related groups claim origin from Lungterok, which is again found within Nagaland.
There is no archaeological evidence of Naga people migrating from somewhere else.
Thank you,I enjoyed listening to it.
I’m glad you made this video
Ancient Vietnam was a combination of the Lac Viet and Au Viet tribes to form the Au Lac clan, to establish the Xich Dem state, and later to Van Lang. During thousands of years of building the country, nearly half of the time was under the slave domination of the North (Ancient China). Vietnam was suppressed for a total of 1,000 years by the domination of ancient China. A lot of historical culture and customs have disappeared. The ancient Chinese forced the Vietnamese to learn ancient Chinese characters and live according to their customs. Avoiding assimilation and forgetting their origins, the ancient Vietnamese relied on ancient Han characters to create a language called Hán-Nôm, pronounced by the Vietnamese way of calling Han. The peak was in the years 1426, after the Ho dynasty fell into the hands of the Ming, and the Ming dynasty burned and destroyed all books and customs of the ancient Vietnamese.
I really feel sorry for the Vietnamese people. Through many wars and yoke of domination the slavery of the foreigners
The ancient Vietnamese are Matriarchs. Women benefit greatly. However, it was later dominated by the North (Ancient China). Because Confucianism was too intrusive. So gradually change. Besides, the beliefs of the old Vietnamese were all living beings. Worship all kinds of mascots
biased
@@tanyeweestudent6856 well it was origin nam viet but qing reject fearing we claming southern china lol , let be real vietnam wont claim southern china too much han
@@vannamnguyen8182
At least we don't have to wear pony tail like the Han 😂
They are not lost, they are living in Southeast Asia now
Vietnam exactly. Saying they living in SEA is like claiming all the SEA are Yue. The Viet in Han script means Yue, and Nan means Nam. And 86% of Vietnamese populations is Kinh
They are not lost. They even has their old Nation- Vietnam ( yuenan).
@CHK MKHan
There is no such races called Chinese!!! Only the Han race from the north and the Viet races from the south. The term 'Chinese' is the combination of many nations, including those from the Baiyue, the Hundred Việt. So, technically people can say that half of the Chinese now are the Vietnamese.
Who knows maybe your ancestors thousand years ago were the Yue too bro.
@CHK MKHan Have you seen genetic tests on Vietnamese people? All that I've seen are almost half "Chinese", probably Han.
@@moslyjeb3090 I don't know about that. Some mountain tribes in Island Southeast Asia still practice tattoos and had cliff burial. They have a claim bec they are Austronesian speakers not Austro-Asiatic like the Viets. Although these BaiYue might be a mix between Austronesians and Austro-Asiatics. Those close to Vietnam might be the Austro-Asiatic BaiYue and those close to the coast are the Austronesian BaiYue.
There is a problem in the video, in fact, the migration from Fujian to Taiwan occurred earlier (about three thousand years before the video is mentioned), there are a series of sites in Taiwan that are classified as the Dabenkeng culture, the earliest of which is about 7000 years ago, and sites with similar characteristics have been found along the coast of Fujian.
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Gotta give huge props to Devin for constantly striving to get the Chinese and Vietnamese pronunciations right in this video (with the glaring exception of Meng Huo, although I'm certain the error wasn't his fault). My father is Chinese with Minyue ancestry and my mother is Filipino so it looks like I'm of Yue descent both ways. Great video, very informative, thanks for putting this obscure but interesting bit of history out there.
Yong kai, Gao Ding and Zhu Bao was participating in Campaign Against Zhuge Liang with the aid of Menghuo a Nanman Local tribe.
Good stuff, thank you.
stories written by the Chinese, you have to take them with a pinch of salt. they tend to devalue others to feel superior.
silk is of origin from the Yue people, the same as cotton, because the climatic conditions allow it. The North, of the Han Chinese, is too cold for the development of silkworms and the cultivation of cotton.
Before the Chinese invasion, it was the Yue culture that radiated in this part of the globe.
The Chinese calendar is of Vietnamese origin, the Lunar New Year is also Vietnamese, and many other things that the Chinese claim are theirs.
The Yue (Viet) already had writing at this time.
no, silk originated in Neolithic China within the Yangshao culture, production remained in China until the Silk Road opened, the Chinese calendar was developed as early as 771 to 476 BCE, during the Spring and Autumn period of the Eastern Zhou dynasty, solar calendars were used before then, China had it long before anyone else
Found this video from steam where 3 kingdoms made an post about this video. It is so cool that they did a shout out for a creator
Really good marketing team :-)
@@KingsandGenerals can u don one on xiromh ,dong yi ,beidi and others
@@KingsandGenerals Why Didn't You Mention Philippines Do You Hate Us
Fascinating exploration of this part of Chinese history, particularly in its connexion with neighbouring peoples.
Now we know why the Viet hates China that much
The oldest walled cities in China are actually not from the north, but from the south and from the regions of the Hundred Yue and Nanman. Their ancestors were the first to have large scale rice agriculture which allowed their civilizations to develop into city-states similar to Greece. Archaeological finds not only show the fine metallurgy mentioned in the video, but fine pottery and jewelry (earliest forms of worked jade was found in the south). Evidence from other ancient sites in the north and south showed a series of trade networks. As for the people, the genetic evidence found at ancient sites match those of modern Austronesian and Hmong-Mien speakers. It's very likely that the ancestors of these groups of people made up the Nanman and Hundred-Yue people.
China and russia are the two giant monsters killed and erased many civilization nearby them. The Luo Yue, Lac Viet were the ancestors of the ethnic Vietnamese
@@yeluabaoji7222 Nah, they did nothing wrong.
@@yeluabaoji7222 The Lac Viet were ancestors of both modern Vietnamese and modern southern Chinese people. And with southern people such as the Yue tribes migrating north and with different northern Chinese ethnic groups migrating south, they all got mixed over thousands of years. The modern southern Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodian, etc people are a mixture of many different ethnic groups due to migration, conquest, etc. As for erasing smaller civilizations or assimilating them, all civilizations and empires that conquer other nations do that.
please do one on the yunnnan' lao or dao, people when you can; I just may need to check to see you may already have done it... thanks great stuff. just sub'd!
This was super interesting! As a descendent of the FuJian and GuangDong regions this was really eye-opening and very cool to watch as an Asian American.
Can you do a video on Pompey and his conquest of the east?
Hahaha hahaha
Interesting video!
19:00 title song 茉莉花 molihua
Dont know that this song can be such a glorious song, usually it is set as calm and slow paced
Great documentary! I'm an American born in America, our people call ourselves Hmong, known as Miao in China. The Hmong people were a tribe in Laos who allied with America during the Vietnam War, my parents fled Laos into Thailand to seek refuge. Then migrated to the United States as refugees after the war. The last Miao rebellion against China was in the late 1800s. Having lost the war, many fled south into Laos and came with a new name Hmong meaning free.
A very good possibility that the NanMan name used implied “free” people of the south back then.
苗族最开始生活在中国的黄河流域，我们最古老的民族之一
We Hmong are not Nanman bro. Our ancestor don't ride elephants or tatoo. Although its sounds cool.
@@stump4522 Who said we were NanMan?
苗不是汉的一枝吗？
Their culture also survive in Japan, like blackening of teeth, rice culture, architecture, tattooing etc. I would also say that huge portions of Chinese culture are of Nanman origins.
Japanese have very little to do with Southern Chinese and SE Asians from a genetic point of view. They're overwhelmingly Northeast Asian with high amounts of Devil's Gates or Proto-Tungusic in their genome. It's possible that they borrowed some Southern Chinese culture, but as a people they're rather distinct.
TheXanian Well, Yamato is a mix of Northern Asian (Yayoi) and Jomon (Southern Asian), even though the Yayoi dominated the Jomon.
@@TheXanian and paddy wet field how did yayoi receive?
The Okinawans probably could be related, especially the ones living om islands like super near Taiwan.
@@xrli Jomon aren't Southern Asian. They had separated from the main continental Asian groups quite early and are neither close to Northern Asians nor to Southern Asians.
Excellent Presentation.!
Beautiful illustrations gang
谢谢. Great to see the fascinating topic of 南蠻/百越 being covered by a RUclips channel. In his 2001 work on the genesis of East Asia, Charles Holcombe refers to the migration of peoples "who apparently had their cultural and linguistic roots in the Yue zone of what is now southern China" as "the great age of Yue expansionism".
Han expansionism came later. And is still continuing.