So there is an age restriction to report that a professional player is overrated??? It's clear as day that Bellingham is in fact overrated, he has been spoken about as being better than Zidane ....Noone can predict the future and in the future Bellingham may turn out to be incredible, however, at this current moment Bellingham is not at the level the media pretends that he is ....
2 reasons: 1) People mistakenly equate the success of the EPL with the success of England. The best EPL players are foreigners. 2) The media hype them up too much that it gets into their heads.
The constant drum beat of golden generations is self delusional. English PL teams with foreign managers and stars have won only 3 European cups in 10 years, the Spanish teams have won 7. That's despite oil/blood money from every dodgy 'primce' in the middle east throwing money at it. It's all hype and the english are deluded with poor managers and players that are not quite as good as England thinks
This is nothing to do with being over hyped. They have been to two consecutive finals with dreadful tactics and poor management. They are some of the best players in Europe and denying that fact is just silly
Saka scores a goal, BBC says he will be among the greats. Mainoo makes a good pass, BBC says he will be among the greats. Kane gets subbed, BBC says he will be among the greats. Jude adjusts his socks, BBC says he will be among the greats. The media and the public are beyond delusional 😂
You people have got to chill out ... I am no England fan but to call Bellingham overrated at 21 is ridiculous ... It's the English media that hypes them up ...
England fans and media always overrate their team, scream “its coming home” every competition, always say we should beat this team and that team. Ultimately forgetting they’ve won nothing since 1966 which is nearly 60 years now. England are the Spurs of international football.
Harry Kane, Belligham , Foden....who does Spain have compared to them, how did theyn lose to Spain ...... its coming home, not this Euros but its coming home......
@@user-yr4vp1jk7jWho does Spain have? You mean you don't know? They have Lamine Yamal, Nico Williams, Rodri, Pedri (currently injured), Alvaro Morata, Oyarzabal, Mikel Merino.
England does not lack talent. England lacks strategy and purpose. You take risks and attack the opponent, not busy passing back and hope to win by penalties. And of course, please bench Kane.
Tried that under Hoddle, went out in the last 16 in the usual manner. Brought in Keegan to attempt the same thing, lost early to teams we often shouldn't have.
@@Hamilton8timeChampion Kane was one of our many problems, a waste of a player on the pitch. He has been extremely consistent in the Euros 2024.. consistently shit. Another huge problem was Palmer not getting a single start, and funny that in the final, he scored and equalised within 2 minutes of coming on, yet Southgate never took advantage of such an incredible and very reliable player
Hello! I've been following football since 1990 and some thoughts on the English national team over the years: 1. England cannot play as one team. 2. The English are insecure in ball possession. 3. Too high expectations and ego 4. Overpaid and overrated 5. Too conservative and naive tactics. 6. Your thoughts......
@mustlane I can see the parallels with italy in the 90 s . Back then, seria A was the most viewed league in the world . full of foreign players ,lots of money ,the italian teams dominated Europe. The Italian team was suffering because of the success of the league. When the league lost its appeal, the Italian team started to perform better and won the wold cup in 2006 .
I think points 1, 2 and 5 are connected. They're conservative with tactics because they're insecure in possession. I think countries especially like Spain simply teach better ballwork when they're young. So they generally come out as very well rounded and fluid footballers, who had more freedom to develop their intuition as they get older because they nailed the fundamentals when they were younger. They can keep their head up for longer because they have better control of the ball.
@@Andrea-ug8dr There are more foreign players now in Italy than in 1990s where there were limitations on non-domestic players. For example you take the Milan and Juventus teams that played CL finals in consecutive years over 1993-1998, they had no more than 3-5 foreigners and the rest was all Italians.
That 2002-2006 team being called The Golden Generation has always tickled me. Frank Lampard is the only one I have seen admit that other teams were better. The Brazil team had 4 Balon D'or winners in that front line. A literal Golden Generation. France had Zidane, Henry, Vieira, Anelka. Let's be real.
I think England's Golden 'team' (outside the the 66 wolrd cup winners) were the Euro 96 squad. Boy they had some talent on there, and a pretty solid defence to boot.
If I was kane. I would just retire. Performing the way he did for years just to be a meme merchant and trophyless, is a big joke that should not be allowed to slide
Although not English myself i have 2 main points to say 1 : The managers of the England National Team always no matter the year/tournament always pick wrong players for some reason , you telling me that guys like Peter Crouch and Jamie Vardy who have insane stats for England dont start all games to get accustomed with the others but you let someone like Kane (2024 euro) stay upfront who distrubs the balance of the team when Wattkins and Toney are in the form of their lives , Vardy especially in his time had the best stats out of everyone for England and only ever started 3 matches 2 : Mentality , i dont want to hear about the players diffrences the Greek 04 team at club level used to routinely brawl each other week in week out in way harsher enviroments for clubs with a lot more animosity between each other and at the Euros and in the NT they were like a family and this seals the deal for me , if you are not willing to be 100% with your teammates because of others things at club level then you simply dont want to win enough and no matter what else is happening you dont have the right to complain because that is the first cardinal sin of football.
The best league is the one that produces the most successful teams in UCL and Europa Legue. That league is La Liga. And then you see how they have translated that into a World Cup and 4 Euros. But english media will never admit this.
It's been clear to see that referees or poor officiating when it comes to la liga teams has partially aided in that one sided dominance so not really a point towards that claim
Sam Allardyce said it few days ago: England may have [on of] the best league in world, but *75% is imported* talent. England does not develop players as it used to, it just imports those. Then they go and play for their own countries.
Allardyce is totally wrong. The quality of English players (at an international level) has constantly encreased during the last two decades alongside with the import of foreign players and managers. As an Italian fan I can say that the few English internationals i've been watching for serie A teams (the equivalent of nowadays EPL from the late 80s to the early 2000s), none of them could really make the difference into a technically and tactically evolved contest even if some were more than good for English standars back then. I'm referring to people like Paul Ince, David Platt, Gazza, Elliot, Mark Hateley an so on. In the present era you have Keane and Bellingham in the starting eleven of Bayern and Real, at least 5/6 more who could play in each of the top 10/15 clubs of Europe and tons of youngster coming up year by year. I'd like toask Mr. Allardyce when it has ever happeaned in England's football history.
the problem is no English players succeed anywhere other than in england Bellingham is the first in a long time and to be honest vini jr is still superior to him
Have you noticed that English Media continuously compares England to Germany, France, Spain? That's a big factor. They think England is at that level, despite the fact they have not been able to compete with those teams in the past 60 years, if not in very sporadic cases.
No they are not . That's exactly the problem . English medias love to put themselves in the same bracket as WAY bigger nations . Thus the OVERRATED, ARROGANCE comments you see most people throw at england. You don't have no bragging rights in international football. To Even think you could compete with these nations is the very definition of arrogance . Truth is , you closer to the USA when it comes to football legacy than to spain or France let alone Germany or Italy....
@@matteoatigui2411 lol, I think you have a bit of selection bias. How much English media do you think you consume as a percentage? England ranked 4th in the world are a wosre side that Germany ranked 13th.
@@TwoLeftSh0es Germany have 4 f*cking world cups and 3 euros. You , your children and your children's children , won't be alive to see england have those accolades. So keep your fifa ranking to yourself. Nobody cares , what defines a great footballing nation isn't its ranking but how much silverware they brought home ... get it ? "Brought home"
Except in 96, that England team was something special, and got a draw out of a very tough talented German side who went on to win the whole Euro 96 tournament.... thanks to perennial loser Gareth Southgate missing a penalty
Can they really be put on that high a pedestal though? Euro '68, lost to previous two tournament absentee Yugoslavia in the semi-finals. '70 World Cup, blew a 2-0 lead against West Germany in the quarter-finals after iffy subs.
@@azapro911Yugoslavia still had one of the best teams in Europe while the country still existed. Besides, that was when the Euros only had four teams. The only team at Euro '68 to be involved in the previous one was the Soviet Union. To qualify for Euro '68, England had to beat Spain, the defending champions, which they did over the course of two legs. As for the West Germany game, a 2-0 lead is nothing in football. They were both good teams. It was just that one got unlucky in the end. It happens.
The reason they haven't won a trophy in most people's lifetime is because they're not good enough. Yet arrogantly believe they are. And the premiership deceives you because the English players have the assists of all the foreign players. There's a reason why the likes of Italy, Spain and Germany have won multiple tournaments because they are just better.
@@circle2867 even when England tried to employ other successful managers and with their golden generation still couldn't win anything. They lost last again against Italy just like every other time England have faced Italy in either Euros or the World Cup. Sadly England just aren't ever good enough. There's a reason why Italy have six trophies to England's one and unfortunately It's not even close. The same as why Spain and Germany have also won multiple tournaments.
@@BearRava fair enough. i think the england squad of 2021 and the one now should've at least won one euro. the tactics under southgate always cost them imo. in the world cup 2018, in the final 2021 and 2024. i dont think even a championship club would take southgate. the last time they hired a "big" name was well over a decade ago
Nope not that at all, the only reason they haven't won a trophy since 66 is because they are incapable of controlling matches against teams ranked in the top 10 in the knockout stages and this is the "only" reason why.
England created the Premier League so that the entire world can watch it instead of watching their own country's league. Thank you, England! It's coming home!
Agreed and I’m from England. Spain had the better team and their players are also more intelligent in general when it comes to football. They can adapt their style mid game with ease as they did against Germany.
this. their media overrates them all the time then just blames the manager. this has been the case for the last 30 years... like really, all your managers are bad?
No I have to disagree. In Spain they were rating England as best team player by player. England squad is actually really great but doesn't have a solid system with identity. It relies too much on individual lucky moments and too many long passes. In the Spanish team, you take one player out, and the new player keeps the same philosophy like nothing happened, and everything flows without thinking too much.
@@miguelaltunagajr6379 no. I disagree. You keep constantly overrating your players as if they were the holy grail of football. English midfielders are nowhere near Rodri. Or Ruiz. Declan Rice and Mainoo? Please.
Who thinks we're the best ??? Every England fan said we were playing shit the entire tournament. The It's Coming Home song is literally just taking the piss
@@Knight_clause England objectively have a better squad than most teams in Europe. Other than France and Portugal (who also played pretty badly) England have a better squad than most teams in this tournament.
@@Knight_clause squad wise we have one of the best in Europe but tactically we are they worst. Southgate is an awful manager and I'm confident in England having a really good world cup with a new manager. Whether that's Potter, Howe or someone else. We have progressed in tournaments because our big players have bailed Southgate out of jail multiple times. If Southgate had a shit squad, we never would have even made it out of the group.
Spain's best player was a 16-year old school boy, and they started him. England's best player sat on the bench throughout the tournament... cameo appearances aside. Simple as that. Safegate was NEVER the right man for the job
England dont care about titles enough. If you think i'm crazy, look at their performance at the euros, how they played despite getting easiest route to the final amongst all the favorites. They lack that motive(at this point i truly believe in that) hence this poor result. Also, not to mention the arrogance that must come with the players constantly being called the best and so forth. They must truly put themselves above the nation. Given how beautifully they played at the euros, no matter how good their team gets on paper, i'd never count them as favorites going into any tournament. If they win anything, i'd consider it only as an upset(even greece had more passion to win than the English)
Im not English, but what Ive seen Southgate do is bring TEAM UNITY. Something theyve never had before, from what Ive seen. Which is why they are now competitive with the Very top nations in world football. Ironic Southgate is accused of being tactically naive, having crafted this team of players. Best coach England have ever had since my love of football began...
Greetings from Germany. This is not a fair report. I'm very sure that England will win several trophies in future. Something went wrong. Splendid photo of the match against Italy, the goalkeeper has left the line too fast. I compare this all with an illness. A long disease takes time to be cured. England even did not qualifiy for some tournaments, I remember 1974. I watched Scotland against Zaire in Dortmund. But they are getting better and better, now two times in the final. For me it seems the disease is approaching the end. I'm elderly, the first time I watched England on TV was in 1958 playing against Brazil (0-0). I was highly impressed, England was as good as the celebrated world cup winner Brazil. Surely, 2024, Spain was the better team, but not immensely better. After the match against the Netherlands one could have been optimistic for the penalty shooting. First Southgate was criticized, reaching the final he became a hero, then one wished that he left. My respect for Southgate, he knew what he had to do, I'm not discussing the role of the WAGS, but I must admit, all were very beautiful.
I agree with this comment, this video encapsulates part of the problem the whole media and fans goes from hubris to despair to hubris to despair and there is no or little proper long term planning. But the margins are fine and the team is preforming well
@@maastrictisokokokI do fear that fans have no idea how good they’ve had it under Southgate. He’s the least unsuccessful England manager in half a century, and it’s not even close.
The problem with England is: i) they always think they have a 'golden generation', when neutral observers don't think much of their players compared to international talent, ii) they always blame the manager when they lose (or the referee, the ball, the pitch, the food, the fans, etc.) but rarely the players, iii) they think that club football success in the Champions League is some proxy to national success, forgetting to mention that these 'English' clubs are packed full of some of the best international players in the planet - i.e. take away the international talent and the club success in European club tournaments would be average at best, iv) the media build the England team up to be the favourites in every Euro/World Cup tournament and they never live up to this because expectations are set too high (again, confusing club-level success - where there are a lot of international players - with presumed national success where one cannot rely on international talent) compared to where the level of quality really is. Remember, in Euro 2024, England was in the easiest group and had by far the easiest path to the Final (playing the weakest countries) and despite this, they struggled and barely got through a lot of matches (penalties vs Switzerland for goodness sakes). Spain, by contrast, was somehow not a tournament favourite, despite being a team packed with natural, young talent, and showed controlled and exciting football throughout the tournament, playing what amounted to three 'Finals' on their path to the real Final - recall that Spain beat Italy (2021 winners) in the group stage, beat Germany (host nation) in the quarter final and beat France (multiple previous Euro winner) in the semi finals, just to get to the Final with England. Also, please don't blam Sven Goran Eriksson. He was an excellent manager and the best in Europe at the time. He had enormous success in Italy and Portugal, so when I hear players saying tactics were not there, this is total nonsense. The players were immature, uneducated, selfish and vain so they couldn't play as a team and they could never concentrate on beating their opponents as they were too busy trying to settle petty scores between themselves.
The same Switzerland that played Italy off the park in the previous round? Show some respect. All the top teams have needed penalties at one time or another. & you're calling England out for WINNING their shoot-out!! You're damned if you do...
@@jackbadger8176 Shootouts are a lottery. Switzerland are an average team. Italy underestimated them. England were the worst team to reach a Euro finals in very many years.
@@klmn2000 Penatly shootouts are no lottery. There are penalty takers with high conversion rates and those with worse ones. There are goalkeepers who often save penatlies and those who almost never do. Shootouts might look like a lottery but they are not. They are just about the finest margins, not luck.
@@klmn2000 Mindset and nerves play a role, sure. But how come that some players regularly take penalties for their teams while others do not? How come that Donnaruma saves more penalties than other GK?
Jamal Musiala definitely made a great decision playing for germany. England dont deserve jude. Look at the entire media now attacking him. Though he wasnt at his best. He literally was never the problem there.
@@bonglesnodkins329England got the lucky side of the bracket and still barely beat Slovakia, Switzerland and the Netherlands by a questionable penalty. Everyone knew that Spain vs Germany was the real final
@@jenniferwang6367 No, it wasn't. Germany were quarter finalists. England have bettered them in each of the last four tournaments. England only lost to one team in the tournament, and that was Spain. The end.
@@bonglesnodkins329 the Germany team from last euros was a completely different team. I’m talking about the Germany team rn and England team rn. You’re delusional if you think England could actually beat Germany. If you would’ve faced France or Portugal you’d be also out.
How is it the fans fault? The fans have been screaming for the FA to fire Southgate and get a more tactical, attack minded and daring manager since 2018.
Well, it is a mixture of many things. Spanish football was in a similar position a few decades ago; when LaLiga was the "Star's League". We were the best league, but the national team always failed. Spanish players were not used to be the main protagonist of the teams; formation was not the keystone of every team; we were the richest ones; so, it was unnecessary to seize and develop a really strong tactician and player formation system. We did not export players on that time; so, our players were less competitive and able to adapt to different kinds of styles. In addition, Spanish football started a formative revolution during the 90s (not just in La Masia). On national team and club level. Less physicality and more understanding of the game and technical training. This kind of making things started on England just a decade ago. When the economic crisis arrived to LaLiga, we were forced to seize our football schools, export players and harvest the previous job done by national football federation. It took decades. That's similar in countries like France or Portugal, where there's a huge national football formation network (very young taleted players like Mbappe or Tchouameni were selected to be trained on national team academy when they were youngsters searching for a team). English football was very coarse and isolated of the ultimate football revolutions until premier league (mainly the Sacchi and Cruyff innovations), further more after the europe's ban from competitions in 1985, and started to be important and modernized on the late 2000s. You began to implement football formation like in Spain or France even lately. Now you have started to produce modern players instead of English players; but there's a lack of modern national coaches with its own ideas. It will take time cause you need coaches that experienced and developed modern football mentality instead of the old English one. At the end, modern English football is still in its infancy; like I said, just a few years ago Premier League wasn't even as professional as other leagues; first Spanish players that arrived to PR talked about the lack of structure and method inside clubs during 2000s. I even remember Malouda talking about the lack of the minimum tactical knowledge of English players when he arrived to Chelsea. Players like Phoden, Bellingham, Grealish or Saka are starting to show how can be national english football in a few years. You are doing well, but takes time!
Bingo, much better than the video or many other comments: It's systemic and takes time and finally there has to be a tactical coach and manager-system in place at national level also... which is the main reason England under Southgate got to late-stage tournament football before then finally losing, after narrowly almost losing in previous games/rounds. There's too much sentimentality and emotional noise around football for obvious reasons and these sorts of videos pump out that product. The real reasons are technical and systematic as you describe in other nations' achieving success. Thanks for talking some sense and intelligence.
@@commentarytalk1446 Exactly! I didn't mention that during all the spanish football development; there was another keystone: a great national school of coaches and a "great coach" that revolutionise the tactics inside the league and "create school". In Spain many coaches and old players felt in love of positional gaming and now, after decades we have a lot of them. In case of Italy, the "strangest" case; many of their success is because Sacchi's revolution; but they are stuck in it and now they have problems to compite. I hope Premier League will develop english coaches that has learn from foreign coaches experiences; but I don't know why, that's not the case right now; even on national terms; I don't know either why there's no coach that follow Fergie's legacy.
I always suspected that England never took football seriously enough for long periods in the last 55 years. England didn't take football very seriously from 1970-1990 and then again England didn't take football seriously from about 2004-2018. By the time developing the national team was on the agenda again it was around 2014. So it has only been around 10 years since the FA actually wanted to change it.
A Spaniard here. England are getting closer to win. Closer and closer. Undeniable signs: 1) they have reached the last two Euro finals; 2) they have reached the semis and the quarters in the last two World Cups; and, very important, 3) they are now consistently successful in U21, U19 etc... competitions. Those signs (realities) are unprecedented when considered as a whole. Honestly, I think it is just a question of time, and a little bit (just a bit) of luck. Things to perhaps improve: what did it to us was probably having a large number of players playing abroad (Torres at the time, for starters), although it is not a requirement (see Italy). This may be important because when players go abroad, they usually are signed by NOT leading teams, so they do have to battle against tougher competition almost every week, building in the process a better character, unlike what happens when they belong to, say, Madrid or Barcelona.
What England needs most is a good manager.Also reaching a final is a good achievement for England.All these comments r just showing their hatred for England rather than the national team
It's cuz best players in the league are foreigners like Salah, Son, De bryune, Bernardo silva, Romero, Saliba and Odegaard not English players, Why is it too hard to understand for the english media
Funny that an English player won both the prem pots and laliga pots. It’s down to the management end of story. Swap the managers around in that final and who lifts the trophy? There’s your answer.
Delusional take. Kane had 44 goals in 45 games for Bayern. Bellingham won La Liga PotS in his first year at RM. Foden won EPL PotY, and YPotY twice before. Saka won it last year. 5 English players were in the Premier League TotS. Nobody is saying that England should be competing to win because of the quality of the EPL, they are saying that England should be competing to win because the players on the pitch are undisputably good enough to compete with the likes of France, Germany, and Spain if they have a decent manager behind them.
@@bluesEvanskro It's also constantly down to wouda, couda, shouda. Creating "reasons" (aka excuses) that are backed up by nothing. Your point is like saying "let the teams swap jerseys and see who's going to win".
England is the only team I know that can make it to the final of a major tournament, yet everyone still moans about how we’re so rubbish. Granted, the football was pretty underwhelming for most of the tournament and we were definitely outclassed by a superior Spanish side in the end, but we were still one of only two teams to make it that far. The notion of “we had the easier side of the draw” just displays arrogance and basically says that Switzerland and Netherlands were both rubbish (which they were not). No side is easy when it comes to knockout football. If people just stop expecting that England should deserve to win and just celebrate when the team does well then maybe the pressure this country puts on our players would stop them becoming bottle jobs. Seriously, the England team is damned if it goes out early, damned if it loses in the final and no doubt most people would damn the team even if they did miraculously win. And to those crying about how England plays “boring” football, well we still made it further than everyone else but Spain, so maybe your teams should just play a bit better.
let's be serious please, it is objective that in these Europeans (like those of 2021 and the 2018 World Cup), England moved forward thanks to relatively easy groups and draws. Of course, Holland and Switzerland are not scarce, but they are not France, they are not Spain or Germany, they are not Portugal. England ALWAYS loses against strong and renowned teams, and struggles a lot against good or modest teams. The reason for all this is simple: England is not a great national team, it is a good national team, inferior to the greats of world football (Brazil Argentina Germany Italy France Spain), and on the same level as national teams such as Belgium and Holland
@@michaelpower4372England were clearly the better side in that match. And technically it WAS a penalty, although refs often won’t apply the letter of the law for contact fouls in the area that come after the shot has been made.
“Maybe your teams should just play a bit better” is exactly why English fans are delusional. You had one of the most Mickey Mouse runs to the final and still barely beat your opponents. Spain vs Germany or Spain vs France could have easily been the final had the bracket gone the other way. The “boring” football is due to playing to not lose vs playing to win, how can you have less expected goals than Croatia who were bounced after the group stages
That's not true. I'm German and saw my team reaching tournament finals regularly. In some of these tournaments I wondered how they were able to do it with their playstyle. The World Cups 1986 and 2002 come to mind. If they had won the World Cup in those years it wouldn't have felt great for me. Those teams didn't play exciting enough to really enjoy it. Same with Euros 1992. Yes, they reached the final but in the group stage they struggled heavily and got convinvingly beaten by the Netherlands. It would not have felt right if they had won that thing, knowing all too well that they were not the best team in that tournament. Winning something is nice, yes. But how to enjoy that if your team is not a joy to watch?
THIS! This is exactly the reason why they'll keep losing. England is a country built on the backs of foreigners and yet they'll still act like they are the dogs bollocks. Little Englander mentality is the reason they'll keep crashing out and we'll always love to see it. Go yap about the PL when the owners, players, and managers are all foreign. Only English thing about the PL is the refereeing and it's the only disliked aspect lmao
Because the Epl has had a lot of foreign managers over the last 15 to 20 years, the youth team coaching at club level has started to produce really good English youth players. And during southgates reign as the England manager, the youth teams have managed to win 4 european championship and 3 world cups. 2 of those youth tournament have been won by beating spains youth teams in the final. once in the 2017 u17 world cup and once in the 2023 u21 euro's. So theres nothing wrong with the youth system they actually produce some fantastic players, the problem is the senior team manager.
@@err4071 lol who do you think manages those youth teams at a club level? STILL FOREIGN MANAGERS! You keep saying "it's coming home" but what home? What is England's brand of football? What have they contributed to the game besides some rules over 150 years ago which have changed time and time again? Where was England when the Central Europeans were reforming the sport in the 50s? When the Dutch created Total Football in the 70s? When the French were producing players with the flair of Zidane? When the Italians were bringing defenders out of this world? When the Germans were fielding battle-hardened ultra cynical and efficient squads? When the Spanish were introducing tiki taka? Nah mate, no youth players are going to save you. You need to humble up, acknowledge that you are the actual bottom of the "big teams" and start from there. From there you can start by managerial consistency at the youth level with a consistant and tailored to English football style of play. The FA also needs to incentivize new coaches to come to the fray and get UEFA licenses. Just look at a video from the Athletic about the staggering differences between German and English coaches. There are tons and I mean TONS of issues to solve here.
The main problems are the sheer lack of self-awareness, the arrogance, and the lack of humility. Every single time a major tournament rolls around, I have to stop watching British pundits and reading the British media because I can't stand their deluded assumption that England is amongst the best teams in the world. They are not - anyone who has any knowledge of football knows this. At best, England are a second-tier football team. They are NOT at the same level as teams like Spain, Germany, Italy, or France. But the British media would have you believe that they are. Before the recent Euros final against Spain, there were British pundits like Paul Merson claiming that England should "easily" handle Spain! The delusion of these British pundits is off the charts.
England ARE among the best teams in the world. Top ten, clearly. Top five, maybe. Top three, probably not. Most English pundits and fans thought Spain were the favourites in the final. Stop talking shite all your life.
English players pass the ball sideways or backwards..they have been taught to play like this since they were kids..spanish players are taught to take risks play the ball forward be comfortable in tight spaces. English fans think players are good because they can run fast
England didn't qualify for much before the late 1990s. England did consistently qualify for tournaments in the 21st century and 2006 was the start of the poor performances at major tournaments.
To win a tournament, have midfielders who can easily score from behind at any opportunity. Get goalscorers who can score in any direction the ball is coming to them. Get at least a dribbler who knows how to reduce the opponents upfront and good defenders. Have a good teamwork.
Getting to 2 consecutive Euro finals is no mean feat. Southgate's England team is actually pretty good. They look really solid all round, and there are some great talents on the team. They look like they can beat anyone on their day.
Precisely, no. Last few tournaments they won knockout matches against: Colombia, Sweden, Germany, Ukraine, Denmark, Senegal, Slovakia, Switzerland and the Netherlands and got knocked out by Croatia, Italy, France and Spain. That is the very opposite of "can beat anyone" and the very definition of "will come unstuck against any good team".
Ah, this bs trope about back to back finals. Are you serious, as others have said, what teams has England faced to get there? Jeez, how difficult is it to comprehend that? Sounds like someone winning the lottery twice and bragging what a great businessman he is.
@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia Lost to Italy on penalties. France score from outside the box following a foul, then Kane balloons a penalty over the bar. Yeah idk, England were genuinely better than France on the day but sometimes the worse team wins (just like how Slovakia should have beat us this year but we got lucky).
@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia Under a different manager, England wouldn't have even beaten those teams. The Netherlands and Germany are tough teams and I'm pretty sure England under the previous two managers had lost to a Dutch team that didn't even qualify for Euro 2016. Also England's first group match was against Croatia in the 2020 Euros and they managed to win that match.
You're missing the point, again and again. You think that you have a golden generation; you think your team is the best in the world, YOU THINK. While the other teams are figuring out how to win a trophy, you think you already won. And then when you don't win, you make up excuses. Oh, that's the manager. Oh, that's the young player. Oh, that's this and that. The problem is that the Premier League is the best league in the world, and you think that this automatically translates in England being just as good. But you forget that the Premier League is also weak and growing weaker in terms of tactics in favour of mindless (but well paid) spectacle. That price tags are inflated and inflate the value of players, especially english young talents. What England needs is a little less hubris.
@@tieforest4871 Klopp doesn't have the best record in finals to put it mildly. But to be fair even Marcello Lippi, who has an equally bad CL final record, managed to win the biggest final he reached. Klopp's chances of winning the latest Euro finals would have been just slightly higher than Southgate's. Guardiolas chances would have been higher. But these two are typical club team managers and it takes a while for them to fully implement their way of football. The task of a national team manager is very different. They have much fewer opportunities and less time to implement their ideas. Klopp and Guardiola buid their teams to fit their playstyle. They represent a dogmatic or idealistic type of manager. Carlo Ancelotti would be a much better fit for any national team because his approach is pragmatic. Of course he has a preferred playstyle but that doesn't prevent him from playing for his teams' strengths.
England has had a lot of poor managers though so in that respect I can believe that. Remember the previous two or three managers England had before Gareth Southgate, could even get the team out of the group stage, at one point.
The Golden generation? 😂 English people I swear hahahahahahahhahahaha You’re telling me this Golden Generation would’ve beaten Brazil’s team of R9, Kaka, Ronaldinho, Adriano, Cafu, Carlos? Or France’s team of Zidane, Henry, Ribery, Thuram, Vieira, Makele? Or Italy’s team of Del Piero, Pirlo, Gatusso, Totti, Cannavaro? Spain’s midfield on the bench was better than Gerard, Lampard & Scholes. Argentina & Germany have always had better teams than us in any era of the World Cup. It baffles me that we use a million excuses for being losers but the ONE we’ll never accept is that our players were never good enough.
Its even funny, That considered of "Peak of Golden Generation" Where Dominated by 2008 MU, 2008 Chelsea, 2005-2006 Liverpool just because they won UCL, Failed to Qualified to 2008 Euro
@@bonglesnodkins329 A generation cannot be golden if they never have a gold medal hanging around their neck for winning something. Also keep in mind that countries like Brazil, Argentina, Italy, Germany etc. never use the term "golden generation" for any of their teams. Calling one of those teams golden generation wouldn't do justice to the other generations that also won trophies.
A non- football fan could see that English players (and Irish, Scottish, welsh, and some other Northern Europeans) are technically inferior to Latin Europeans and Latin Americans.
The EPL hypes these players for marketing their product. The EPL is all about hustle and bustle, aggression and entertainment, which is a big positive for the EPL. International football is about keeping possession, which english players are unable to do. At the end of the day, the english players are not up to international level and this has been proven since 1974!
EPL football is played at 100mph with the ball flying over the midfielders heads most of the time and the other team returns the favour by doing the same the opposite direction Speed, power and grit. That's typical EPL game. Oh with some meaty tackles to get the crowd pumped😢
@@magdelinem6962 In rugby England are one of the better teams, consistently getting top four finishes. Football not so much but I think in the UK rugby is taken more seriously.
Fun fact since 2000 every world champion has won some sort of tournament whether that’s the world cup , euro or copa america , englands the only one who hasant
If you think about it England didn't qualify for much until about 2000 and for most of the 21st century hasn't really been taking football seriously enough. That has now started to change.
It depends on which camera view. If you look at the sideline footage, no it doesn't but then the camera has very choppy movements. If you look at the view from the pitch, the ball bounces off green grass rather than a white goal line.
Rio Ferdinand said Carrick as in Michael Carrick not Carragher. Jamie Carragher was an average defender. Carrick was a brilliant passing midfielder, the closest thing England had to a Pirlo and typical England they didn't know what to do with him.
England's problem will always be the same: to think they are more than they are, to have no self-criticism, to be dishonourable, to over-talk and underestimate their rivals.
@@Yimello Yeah, it's fucking amazing how widespread this urban myth is. Basically, most of the world believes X because somebody else told them that X is true, because somebody else told that person that X is true. None of it is based upon direct experience.
I don't think bonds and friendships correlates to winning. I doubt the likes of Casillias and Ramos were best mates with the likes of Pique, Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta. The reason we have been perennial losers in my lifetime and the foreseeable future is due to team cohesion and bravery. We have a weird obsession on trying to pigeonhole all our superstars into the team, which always leads to subpar performances due to players being played out of position. Why was Trippier our left back/Left wing back option over Mitchell, Alfie Doughty and Leif Davies who all had good seasons. Too many Superstar players who want the ball to feet. No pace or runners in behind to keep are opposition defenders honest.
Good bonds and friendship are not necessary to win things but a good chemistry and teamspirit certainly do not prevent you from winning. Sometimes this gives a team the edge over its opponent. Small things add up. The spanish players from 2008 to 2012 were able to put club rivalries aside when they played in the national team. Del Bosque as their coach did the same. He is a Real Madrid legend as a player and manager but when he took over the Spanish national team the vast majority of players were from Barcelona. It was like Barcelona without Messi and Mascherano but with Casillas and Ramos. Not a bad swap if you ask me. Casillas and Xavi were and are indeed good mates, regardless of the rivalry of their clubs.
The players are talented but mentality and constant media saturation has skewed our evolution terribly, factor in the huge contribution of foreign talent in the form of Managers & players at club level, and you have a football nation that has not yet fully developed it's own identity and elite level brand of football internationally (it has not evolved as quickly as we have wanted it to since the days of kick and rush, long ball) I do believe we have improved greatly but the other nations have also continued doing so, particularly the big guns, who have continued developing from a starting point that was already ahead of us. Realistically we are still playing catch up when it comes to intelligence and tactical nous, I personally feel that's what has cost us in the last two finals, but it shouldn't be discredited because the evidence is there for all to see in the results of the recent previous tournaments. Our grit and determination have got us to finals which is easier said than done, (greater teams than us have choked in finals against lesser opponents) I believe that with the younger generation of players (and managers) brought up on a more modern style of play, with time can come good and win something..it will just take longer than we all want it to, people easily forget that for decades teams like France, Spain and Netherlands fell short, and trophies were dominated by the Germans, and South Americans .. I bet nobody in the comments ever expected in this day and age that Brazil would be in the current situation they are? but times change and in reality it can only be for better or worse..as long as we keep working on our weak points, we will get there eventually.
This is the thing England lose and you just get a lot of spiteful people talking absolute nonsense, How can they be overrated It's back to back finals, semifinals, always in the mix, win ratio very high only just got beat with a 83 minute winner goal to call Bellingham overrated when he's 21 years old, to call any of them overrated with how young most of these players are is crazy. The tactics is what's off and the inability to want to run at players and going to the space. This is where the manager has to drill them because they don't play like that in the premier League or wherever they go They shine so to call them overrated It's just spiteful nonsense from people who just love to h8 on English people for some reason It's really weird.. It's like an incompetent inside them.. or even jealousy.. I had people in the comments from places like Poland and Portugal trying to claim somehow they won because Spain won no idiot Spain won Spain alone and they deserved it.. At the end of the day this was a bad tournament all around most teams with great players did nothing would you call it in Mbappe overrated.. I don't remember seeing him in the last two finals but he's still an amazing player..
@@gold9994 okay but that's tournament football.. You're not saying anything we don't know.. And it is what it is. It's not about where you go who you play but where you end up.. There's always one like you who do or say anything to take away an achievement from the England team It's just a bias I have bais too.. But to try and take away their achievements in the last 6 years that's just sad dude I definitely wouldn't do that to your team..
@@gold9994 I can find excuses as well like managerial fuck ups.. All that is Euro 2024 was the worst I've ever watched the least amount of goals I've ever seen the tightest games I've ever seen.. So it was pretty easy for Spain as well wasn't it seeing as how everybody was playing shit except them..
@@K.J._x8x_MMAAgreed the anti English agenda is crazy and a lot of it has nothing to do with the england national team. I think it stems from this idea that the English media overates players and the team which is complete nonsense as the English media have slated England teams religiously and love dragging down players. The overating of players is not uniquely English others do it just as much if not more, remember how xavi Simmons was destined to be the successor of xavi/iniesta dembele the next Messi 😂😂😂. I once even heard germans in 2014 say mario gotze was the new Ronaldo everyone does this but if the English do it, it's arrogance.The demonisation of england fans in particular pises me off if you speak to england fans they're one of the most grounded and least arrogant fan bases about. I saw a Scotland fan on TV say Scotland was gonna win the euros and no-one called him arrogant nor should they its a fan supporting his team as your supposed to. It's as if English fan's and media can't celebrate when the team wins or be hopeful of winning the tournament when that's what football is all about at its core.
I thought I'm the only one who think that Bellingham is overrated. Good to know that there are still football fans with basic logic / common sense. Southgate biggest and dumbest mistake was building the team around Bellingham. He doesn't realize that if he want to build a team around 1 player , that player MUST be the leader , the smartest , the most skillful , the most dependable , the most creative , and the most consistent one. Bellingham is not that kind of player , his quality is nowhere near that level. He's not even reached sami khedira level yet. It's impossible for him to play the role of Zidane or Messi. He will never reach that level.
The problem with england is the same problem that manchester united has..... And that is mentality too much arrogance not enough humility and worst of all giving into narratives instead of looking at actual performances......
I feel it the English media and fan is also responsible in overhyping the situation and leading it to influence in the decisions of manager and pressurized the players as well.
@@ibrahimk9874 England didn't qualify for much until 2000, since then they haven't taken football very seriously. I think England only took football seriously from 1966-1970 then 1982-1990 and then 1996-2004 and then 2018-2024. Thats only short periods of no more than 8 years.
It’s bad coaching from grassroots up. They absolutely hate flair. Too flashy. Its the English working class mentality. If you can do things with the ball others can’t your flashy and the amateur coaches hate it. It’s also a purely working class game in England. A lot of foreign players have a higher IQ and degree level education. They train smart and play smart. England is all about heart but no brains
All the problems with England stem from two issues: overrated players on the one hand and delusional, out-of-touch expectations from the media and fanbase on the other. Regarding the players, individual English players may be very talented, even world class. However to play effectively as a team you need some levels of football intelligence and courage. Both of which are severely lacking in most English players. This lack of intelligence and courage is even reflected in the English managers and even their referees. I don't know if this is a DNA thing but it's very plain to see even tho it's very painful for fans to admit. The biggest irony is they call themselves the 3 lions. Oh please stop insulting lions already.
This is really silly. Yes England still haven't come away with a trophy and this has gone on for a long time but they are knocking on the door because they are getting deeper into tournaments now more success on penalties compared to the past more success at getting to the latter end of the tournaments. You can't say that the players don't have quality come on. Jude Bellingham winning player award for RM team. Foden being the player for Man city. Yes, they still haven't quite got over the finishing line but with the right coaching and Manager who is tactically better than Southgate and the quality the current team has England can challenge for a trophies in the future. I do feel this is too negative. Saying England will never win trophies, how do you know can you see into the future?? Your basing the past failures on your theory that will affect how things go years into the future. Sport doesn't work like that.
Honestly, as an england fan, There are some england players that do good, kane is kinda good at taking penaltys but its very wrong for him to face hate. Bukayo saka had saved england in the quarter finals with his goal, and now he faces racism just as he did after losing euro 2020. Kobbie mainoo did very well. But the thing is people need to appreciate the players we have, harry kane has to face severe hate because apparently hes a curse, listen no curse exists they dont he just has a hard time trying to score, zlatan didnt win much trophies i dont even know if he won any trophies just awards, Bukayo saka is literally facing racism, there is no space for racism at all it is absolutely wrong. And bellingham is only 21 these players are still young they should not be facing hate its unbelievable we need to grow up and show respect.
Zlatan, I guess you mean Ibrahimovic, didn't win many trophies? 12 League titles (2 x Netherlands, 1 x Spain, 5 x Italy, 4 x France), a few national cups, some league cups, the club world cup and also the Europa League.
@@Bread_Garlichouse Hes like headless chicken for the whole tournament. But english media hyping him up just because hes young. The same case with bellingham, hes done some normal things midfielder do but everyone glazing him so hard. English people are delusional.
As an England fan I think a lot of the ‘fan base’ need to support the team unconditionally and not have such high expectations, unfortunately the media and RUclipsrs like that Rory don’t help. A lot of nations would give everything to qualify for major tournaments and/or make it out the group stages so it has been great to have been able to get to two finals, semifinal and a quarterfinal. We are going to have a tough WC 26 🇺🇸🇲🇽🇨🇦 qualifying group coming up so need to get behind the new manager and team! England may not get to another final let alone win a trophy but true/proper fans will support the new manager and team regardless! 🏴
@1:30 "All of these players are considered footballing legends today." Absolutely nobody outside of England thinks these players are footballing legends. Maaaybe Beckham and Gerrard, but winning one Champions League trophy really isn't enough to be considered a legend either.
I think the English view is applied in the video. Every country has its legends and most of them are legends only in that specific country. Only the very exceptional players are considered legends in other countries as well: Pelé, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Messi, CR7, R9, Beckenbauer, Charlton, Eusebio...
I know it's all speculations but if after the equilizer England would have kept pressing like they did for about 5 minutes they might have had a chance to win it... But they had to change tactics and stand deep again... The were literally asking for the 2-1...
Don't blame the media, people expect England to play good because they should. Massive red flag in mentality when players start blaming "media" for putting pressure... I mean, that's what players do, you represent your country, both glory and pressure. If you don't want it, reject the national recruitment
The media has built Bellingham up to be the next messiah, and the kid has believed it himself… now that all what the expected from him didn’t pan out like they’d hope… they’re taking back their hype of an average footballer.
We must admit that this is probably the beat English National Team of All Time. They never reached so often the semi-final before and Southgate should receive a bit credit for that.
Never say never. I’m a 40 years old spaniard that grew up listening over and over again that Spain was never gonna win a World Cup. People said that there was a quarters curse in this competitions, since we never got pass it. Of course England can win it. Just keep trying. Nothing is impossible.
2006 team was way more overrated than the current one. I never understood the hype on Lampard and Gerard, especially when put together. They didn't add up.
Bellingham is not overrated. He had a great season at Real Madrid, scored and created lots of goals, and had previously been a revelation at Dortmund. He is one of the best players in the world. The signs are there that it could be going to his head though, and this is a testing moment for him. He had a poor Euros tournament, showed poor attitude and will either learn from it, or it might start to affect his club form. But you can't call him overrated just yet.
To be honest, England always have a favorable draws. In world cup 2018, Euro 2020 and now presently, they are in the knockout stages facing dark horses all the time instead of the top 5 favorites. What if England was at the other side where France, Spain, Portugal, Germany and Belgium waiting for them? So far England is not impressive at all! They still can't beat the top 5 favorites. They lost to Croatia and Belgium during semifinals of world cup 2018. Then to Italy in the Euro 2020 finals. Then to France in the World Cup 2022 quarter finals. And now Spain in the Euro 2024. They have not shown any good quality playing against the world top 6 teams.
EXACTLY. THEY HAVE REACHED 2 FINALS PLAYING 14 MATCHES AGAINST NOBODY UNTIL THE FINALS. UEFA HAS DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE THEM WIN AND THEY STILL CAN'T.
@@TIGRE979 oh is it? Do fifa or uefa specially arranged them to meet the simple opponents and the dark horses team only? Is this a set up and match fixing game?
@@WilliamJMartinj YES BECAUSE ENGLISH FOOTBALL FEDERATION BRINGS MORE MONEY TO UEFA AND FIFA THAN ANY OTHER NATION. THEY NEVER WON ANYTHING AND THEY WANT TO CONFUSE THE PUBLIC THERE ARE A STRONG TEAM
england like to start players base of their names. look at italy 2006 materazzi was starting snd nesta was benched cause materazzi was having a better form , while england will always play the bignames hahaha
Getting to back to back Euro finals is hardly a bad thing, it's much better than what Roy Hodgson's England (and Fabio Capello) ever did. I'm not a huge fan of the England team compared to other teams, but for many countries getting to a final would be seen as a good thing, even if you did not win that final. That makes me wonder if this argument is in good faith. People conveniently forget how bad England were as a team in the 12-15 years before Gareth Southgate took over. In truth England had not played well at a tournament since 2004, and they had not won a knockout match since 2006.
Cucurella had a great competition period...always comfortable on the ball...this guy doesnt just overlap...he underlaps...a full back who always wants the ball? puts Trippier and Walker to shame
I grew up hearing why Spain can never win a trophy. Infact, they said Spain was synonymous to pain. I mean just look at this: Spain=S+pain. Yet in the last 16 years, they're most successful team, winning the Euros in 2008, the World Cup in 2010, then the Euros again in 2012, and now they're champions again here in 2024. Even the French team of 1998 or 2018 haven't been able to do that.
8:00 pretty sure that's Jamie Carragher But thanks for the interview parts at the beginning. I only knew about Barcelona & real Madrid players having similar issues for the Spanish national team.
For me, it's the sense of entitlement and sheer arrogance that is coming from the general fans and media, screaming "it's coming home", as if _claiming_ the trophy as theirs from the very beginning because England is where football was coming from. I reckon the "it's coming home" chant is more harmless that it was portrayed. That it is just a song and it is used to give positive vibe to the fans who are enthutiastic with football. For me, does it really matter? For it's not rare for such a harmless chant to be expressed in an arrogant way. Anyway. England need to learn humility. For them to not win anything in this many years is a blessing to football in general. For if they win because of their arrogance, then their sense of entitlement would only grow even more.
Good GOD, how many times does it need to be said? The song “Three Lions (It’s Coming Home)” is NOT about England expecting to win a trophy. It’s about keeping the faith after so much failure. Have you seriously never listened to the lyrics? It’s not about a trophy at ALL, it’s about hosting a major football tournament in England for the first time in three decades.
To be honest i think alot of the English pundits were saying before the Swiss Euro 2024 match, 'this is a dangerous team that can beat us'..Pre Iceland 2016 defeat,you would almost never hear that...
@AntiChris84 yh that is true, but his popularity really grew when he went to Real Madrid really that's when we all started talking about him but he did prove him self in the first part of the season for madrid really putting more eyes on him
@@jaedonbeckford9021yea but your saying it as if it's his fault the everyone talk about or his 'pr' even without it he is still one of the best players in the world
What's a goddamn shame is that we didn't see the English playing with enthousiasm and passion like a team. I wish every team (and especially their manager/trainer) would strive to achieve this. Football would be so much more fun to watch.
You have to learn to beat the better teams to win those tournaments. England's strategy - not just this year, for over 2 decades - has consisted of beating teams like Slovakia and Ukraine and hoping to avoid the big opposition until very late. It's just that with the expansion of the tournaments, particularly the Euros, those games against France/Spain now come much later than before.
Not really, England ended up having to play Germany 3 years ago, who had a better team than England in their first knockout match. I think Germany would've been expected to win because England are generally a much worse team.
Agreed. I think England’s current generation is very talented. We need a manager who trusts them over an unfit Harry Kane. Now Southgate is gone, we need to pray the FA don’t do another 2016 😬
There are always other teams that are more talented or cohesive, as mentioned above. For example 2006 was a great England squad but then so were Brazil, France, Italy and Portugal and these teams had cohesion as well.
Zero clue about football because they don't like his ability, and can compare him to the best that ever done it. No, football opinions don't work like that. Jude is average when you put him along side the best that played for Madrid. Jude maybe ok for English lads standards. But he can't outshine foreign players. Nobody in the England squad can. English skill is about a generation behind really. When the ball goes to their feet it's like butter 😆 The older players from years ago had better ball control than this current lot. And even the old greats still didn't outshine their foreign counterparts 😂 Zero clue about football is a bad statement. Plenty of footy heads watched plenty of games over the DECADES. We know what we watched and who was shining, who had ball control and who stepped up. English players never have and if it keeps going. Never will. Jude Bellingham 😂 Behave 😆
if some segments of the video feel weird, it’s because part of them had to be trimmed off due to copyright claims…
Still a great video.
@@Daily_Sports_Updatesthank you mate!
So there is an age restriction to report that a professional player is overrated??? It's clear as day that Bellingham is in fact overrated, he has been spoken about as being better than Zidane ....Noone can predict the future and in the future Bellingham may turn out to be incredible, however, at this current moment Bellingham is not at the level the media pretends that he is ....
Some people were kind enough to try to save you from yourself.
If it’s because of the background music, then I don’t think it’s really necessary. Actually, it can be quite distracting sometimes.
2 reasons:
1) People mistakenly equate the success of the EPL with the success of England. The best EPL players are foreigners.
2) The media hype them up too much that it gets into their heads.
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These players have the best managers in the world. That's the main thing. Southgate is one of the worst managers in the world
Well Bellingham and Kane aren't playing in the EPL and they both had outstanding seasons.
The constant drum beat of golden generations is self delusional. English PL teams with foreign managers and stars have won only 3 European cups in 10 years, the Spanish teams have won 7. That's despite oil/blood money from every dodgy 'primce' in the middle east throwing money at it. It's all hype and the english are deluded with poor managers and players that are not quite as good as England thinks
This is nothing to do with being over hyped. They have been to two consecutive finals with dreadful tactics and poor management. They are some of the best players in Europe and denying that fact is just silly
Saka scores a goal, BBC says he will be among the greats.
Mainoo makes a good pass, BBC says he will be among the greats.
Kane gets subbed, BBC says he will be among the greats.
Jude adjusts his socks, BBC says he will be among the greats.
The media and the public are beyond delusional 😂
The media 100% but you need to stop thinking that real England fans are like that because we’re not.
@@ctaaa76
Yes you are
@@hugoagogo9435 how are we any worse then any other sets of fans?
@@ctaaa76 It's just a general observation from the stuff I've seen, and I agree that everyone is not like that.
Clever Lyrics.
You people have got to chill out ... I am no England fan but to call Bellingham overrated at 21 is ridiculous ... It's the English media that hypes them up ...
_I agree it’s absolutely unfair on a 21 year old. People seem to forget and just hate because they don’t like England or Real Madrid._
He is very overrated
good player,but overrated,he is not generational
@@broca246he is!
Average player.
England fans and media always overrate their team, scream “its coming home” every competition, always say we should beat this team and that team. Ultimately forgetting they’ve won nothing since 1966 which is nearly 60 years now. England are the Spurs of international football.
It's coming home was originally a sarcastic song I'm sure
You mean the song that's taking the piss ? Other countries not understanding English sarcasm will never end.
You should go and have a listen to the lyrics of that song. It's about losing. Find it funny it triggers other fans so much
Harry Kane, Belligham , Foden....who does Spain have compared to them, how did theyn lose to Spain ...... its coming home, not this Euros but its coming home......
@@user-yr4vp1jk7jWho does Spain have? You mean you don't know? They have Lamine Yamal, Nico Williams, Rodri, Pedri (currently injured), Alvaro Morata, Oyarzabal, Mikel Merino.
England does not lack talent. England lacks strategy and purpose. You take risks and attack the opponent, not busy passing back and hope to win by penalties. And of course, please bench Kane.
Kane wasn't the problem man
Kane is necessary to get free kicks and penalties by diving
Tried that under Hoddle, went out in the last 16 in the usual manner. Brought in Keegan to attempt the same thing, lost early to teams we often shouldn't have.
@@Hamilton8timeChampion Kane was one of our many problems, a waste of a player on the pitch. He has been extremely consistent in the Euros 2024.. consistently shit. Another huge problem was Palmer not getting a single start, and funny that in the final, he scored and equalised within 2 minutes of coming on, yet Southgate never took advantage of such an incredible and very reliable player
@@mircopaul5259 Lmao, so true
Hello! I've been following football since 1990 and some thoughts on the English national team over the years:
1. England cannot play as one team.
2. The English are insecure in ball possession.
3. Too high expectations and ego
4. Overpaid and overrated
5. Too conservative and naive tactics.
6. Your thoughts......
@mustlane I can see the parallels with italy in the 90 s . Back then, seria A was the most viewed league in the world . full of foreign players ,lots of money ,the italian teams dominated Europe.
The Italian team was suffering because of the success of the league. When the league lost its appeal, the Italian team started to perform better and won the wold cup in 2006 .
7. Managers that cannot synergise the players to be better as a collective than as a group of individuals
I think points 1, 2 and 5 are connected. They're conservative with tactics because they're insecure in possession. I think countries especially like Spain simply teach better ballwork when they're young. So they generally come out as very well rounded and fluid footballers, who had more freedom to develop their intuition as they get older because they nailed the fundamentals when they were younger. They can keep their head up for longer because they have better control of the ball.
@@Andrea-ug8dr There are more foreign players now in Italy than in 1990s where there were limitations on non-domestic players. For example you take the Milan and Juventus teams that played CL finals in consecutive years over 1993-1998, they had no more than 3-5 foreigners and the rest was all Italians.
No hearth, no rage, no vivacious
That 2002-2006 team being called The Golden Generation has always tickled me. Frank Lampard is the only one I have seen admit that other teams were better. The Brazil team had 4 Balon D'or winners in that front line. A literal Golden Generation. France had Zidane, Henry, Vieira, Anelka. Let's be real.
Doesn't mean England didn't have a golden generation. I think they did just wasn't as golden as the others lol
Anelka better than Rooney or Owen? 🤣
I think England's Golden 'team' (outside the the 66 wolrd cup winners) were the Euro 96 squad. Boy they had some talent on there, and a pretty solid defence to boot.
@@GeoWizardOwen fell off massively and Anelka was highly underrated
Can’t be golden until you win something. In that case every generation of players who have gone out in 1/4s is golden.
And yet Kane is still trophy less...
They all are.
Not Jude
@@RyanG0899full of league and champions league winners tf you mean
If I was kane. I would just retire. Performing the way he did for years just to be a meme merchant and trophyless, is a big joke that should not be allowed to slide
Yes, Harry Kane now has an impressive collection of silver medals.🥈
Although not English myself i have 2 main points to say
1 : The managers of the England National Team always no matter the year/tournament always pick wrong players for some reason , you telling me that guys like Peter Crouch and Jamie Vardy who have insane stats for England dont start all games to get accustomed with the others but you let someone like Kane (2024 euro) stay upfront who distrubs the balance of the team when Wattkins and Toney are in the form of their lives , Vardy especially in his time had the best stats out of everyone for England and only ever started 3 matches
2 : Mentality , i dont want to hear about the players diffrences the Greek 04 team at club level used to routinely brawl each other week in week out in way harsher enviroments for clubs with a lot more animosity between each other and at the Euros and in the NT they were like a family and this seals the deal for me , if you are not willing to be 100% with your teammates because of others things at club level then you simply dont want to win enough and no matter what else is happening you dont have the right to complain because that is the first cardinal sin of football.
The best league is the one that produces the most successful teams in UCL and Europa Legue. That league is La Liga. And then you see how they have translated that into a World Cup and 4 Euros. But english media will never admit this.
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look at the tv rights. Aside from Varca and Vardrid (you can also exclude both Varchester clubs, LiVarpool, and Varsenal).
BEST LEAGUE DOESNT MEAN MOST PRODUCE AND SUCESSFUL, ITS FOOTBALL DUH. BEST LEAGUE IS MOST ENTERTAINMENT AND ITS PREMIER LEAGUE.
Who are the players in Spaim at the same level as Harry Kane, Bellingha and Foden.....
It's been clear to see that referees or poor officiating when it comes to la liga teams has partially aided in that one sided dominance so not really a point towards that claim
Sam Allardyce said it few days ago: England may have [on of] the best league in world, but *75% is imported* talent. England does not develop players as it used to, it just imports those. Then they go and play for their own countries.
Allardyce is totally wrong. The quality of English players (at an international level) has constantly encreased during the last two decades alongside with the import of foreign players and managers. As an Italian fan I can say that the few English internationals i've been watching for serie A teams (the equivalent of nowadays EPL from the late 80s to the early 2000s), none of them could really make the difference into a technically and tactically evolved contest even if some were more than good for English standars back then. I'm referring to people like Paul Ince, David Platt, Gazza, Elliot, Mark Hateley an so on. In the present era you have Keane and Bellingham in the starting eleven of Bayern and Real, at least 5/6 more who could play in each of the top 10/15 clubs of Europe and tons of youngster coming up year by year. I'd like toask Mr. Allardyce when it has ever happeaned in England's football history.
the problem is no English players succeed anywhere other than in england Bellingham is the first in a long time and to be honest vini jr is still superior to him
@@agustowelch1216bro Vini and Jude play complete different positions. It’s like me saying Ronaldo so much better than Zidane. wtf?
People like to say England had a good team in the 1990s, but where did that team come from, great players don't grow on trees do they?
Have you noticed that English Media continuously compares England to Germany, France, Spain? That's a big factor. They think England is at that level, despite the fact they have not been able to compete with those teams in the past 60 years, if not in very sporadic cases.
No they are not . That's exactly the problem . English medias love to put themselves in the same bracket as WAY bigger nations . Thus the OVERRATED, ARROGANCE comments you see most people throw at england. You don't have no bragging rights in international football. To Even think you could compete with these nations is the very definition of arrogance . Truth is , you closer to the USA when it comes to football legacy than to spain or France let alone Germany or Italy....
@@matteoatigui2411 lol, I think you have a bit of selection bias. How much English media do you think you consume as a percentage? England ranked 4th in the world are a wosre side that Germany ranked 13th.
@@TwoLeftSh0es Germany have 4 f*cking world cups and 3 euros. You , your children and your children's children , won't be alive to see england have those accolades. So keep your fifa ranking to yourself. Nobody cares , what defines a great footballing nation isn't its ranking but how much silverware they brought home ... get it ? "Brought home"
Delusional thinking 😅
Except in 96, that England team was something special, and got a draw out of a very tough talented German side who went on to win the whole Euro 96 tournament.... thanks to perennial loser Gareth Southgate missing a penalty
The only golden generation we had was 1966, U have to put gold to be a golden generation
That's not what "golden generation" means.
Can they really be put on that high a pedestal though? Euro '68, lost to previous two tournament absentee Yugoslavia in the semi-finals. '70 World Cup, blew a 2-0 lead against West Germany in the quarter-finals after iffy subs.
@@azapro911Yugoslavia still had one of the best teams in Europe while the country still existed. Besides, that was when the Euros only had four teams. The only team at Euro '68 to be involved in the previous one was the Soviet Union. To qualify for Euro '68, England had to beat Spain, the defending champions, which they did over the course of two legs.
As for the West Germany game, a 2-0 lead is nothing in football. They were both good teams. It was just that one got unlucky in the end. It happens.
The reason they haven't won a trophy in most people's lifetime is because they're not good enough. Yet arrogantly believe they are. And the premiership deceives you because the English players have the assists of all the foreign players. There's a reason why the likes of Italy, Spain and Germany have won multiple tournaments because they are just better.
they are not just better. they hire better managers. england really shouldve beat italy in 2021
@@circle2867 even when England tried to employ other successful managers and with their golden generation still couldn't win anything. They lost last again against Italy just like every other time England have faced Italy in either Euros or the World Cup. Sadly England just aren't ever good enough. There's a reason why Italy have six trophies to England's one and unfortunately It's not even close. The same as why Spain and Germany have also won multiple tournaments.
@@BearRava fair enough. i think the england squad of 2021 and the one now should've at least won one euro. the tactics under southgate always cost them imo. in the world cup 2018, in the final 2021 and 2024. i dont think even a championship club would take southgate. the last time they hired a "big" name was well over a decade ago
Nope not that at all, the only reason they haven't won a trophy since 66 is because they are incapable of controlling matches against teams ranked in the top 10 in the knockout stages and this is the "only" reason why.
@@circle2867 Italy was the better team in 2021. 30 games unbeaten, but sure, England should've won against that
England created football to watch other countries win, Thank you England!!
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England have done the first industrial revolution to watch USA and China becoming more industrialised than them
England created the Premier League so that the entire world can watch it instead of watching their own country's league. Thank you, England! It's coming home!
Only English think they have the best players in the world.
Agreed and I’m from England. Spain had the better team and their players are also more intelligent in general when it comes to football. They can adapt their style mid game with ease as they did against Germany.
this. their media overrates them all the time then just blames the manager. this has been the case for the last 30 years... like really, all your managers are bad?
@@thecrimsondragon9744 Yeah, those ungrateful bloody foreigners. Then the play for their national team and beat England. They should be ashamed!
No I have to disagree. In Spain they were rating England as best team player by player. England squad is actually really great but doesn't have a solid system with identity. It relies too much on individual lucky moments and too many long passes. In the Spanish team, you take one player out, and the new player keeps the same philosophy like nothing happened, and everything flows without thinking too much.
@@miguelaltunagajr6379 no. I disagree. You keep constantly overrating your players as if they were the holy grail of football. English midfielders are nowhere near Rodri. Or Ruiz. Declan Rice and Mainoo? Please.
Come on... Southgate might not be perfect, but he took England to 2 consecutive finals... and none can blame him for 60 years of failures.
The problem is that there are always better teams than them. They think that they're the best but nothing can be further from the truth.
Who thinks we're the best ??? Every England fan said we were playing shit the entire tournament. The It's Coming Home song is literally just taking the piss
@@hunterhorsehelmsley7315 because they were playing shit but before the tournament everyone was saying England are best
@@Knight_clause England objectively have a better squad than most teams in Europe. Other than France and Portugal (who also played pretty badly) England have a better squad than most teams in this tournament.
@@Fontaneish see that's the problem 🤣🤣☠️☠️ you think you are the best but in reality you really aren't
@@Knight_clause squad wise we have one of the best in Europe but tactically we are they worst. Southgate is an awful manager and I'm confident in England having a really good world cup with a new manager. Whether that's Potter, Howe or someone else. We have progressed in tournaments because our big players have bailed Southgate out of jail multiple times. If Southgate had a shit squad, we never would have even made it out of the group.
Referring to Jamie Carragher as world class ends me. 😂
He said Carrick
Carrick
Spain's best player was a 16-year old school boy, and they started him. England's best player sat on the bench throughout the tournament... cameo appearances aside. Simple as that. Safegate was NEVER the right man for the job
The problem is - with all of their young talents - they still play 90s football. Standing around, passing back, hoping for a free kick or corner.
That's an interesting point, the England coach was a player in the 1990s, he probably wants them to play like his team did.
Getting all your best players and throwing them into a team does not make you a winning team.
England been cursed as chokers of soccer trophies the way South Africans are chokers in cricket trophies….
I always thought of Netherlands as the South Africa of football. England are just the underachievers or failures rather than chokers.
England dont care about titles enough. If you think i'm crazy, look at their performance at the euros, how they played despite getting easiest route to the final amongst all the favorites. They lack that motive(at this point i truly believe in that) hence this poor result. Also, not to mention the arrogance that must come with the players constantly being called the best and so forth. They must truly put themselves above the nation. Given how beautifully they played at the euros, no matter how good their team gets on paper, i'd never count them as favorites going into any tournament. If they win anything, i'd consider it only as an upset(even greece had more passion to win than the English)
Im not English, but what Ive seen Southgate do is bring TEAM UNITY. Something theyve never had before, from what Ive seen. Which is why they are now competitive with the Very top nations in world football. Ironic Southgate is accused of being tactically naive, having crafted this team of players. Best coach England have ever had since my love of football began...
Team Unity didn't show on the field.......... Team Unity only means they all "support" Southgate no matter what :)
@@jeffbb22sour grapes
Greetings from Germany. This is not a fair report. I'm very sure that England will win several trophies in future. Something went wrong. Splendid photo of the match against Italy, the goalkeeper has left the line too fast.
I compare this all with an illness. A long disease takes time to be cured. England even did not qualifiy for some tournaments, I remember 1974. I watched Scotland against Zaire in Dortmund.
But they are getting better and better, now two times in the final. For me it seems the disease is approaching the end.
I'm elderly, the first time I watched England on TV was in 1958 playing against Brazil (0-0).
I was highly impressed, England was as good as the celebrated world cup winner Brazil.
Surely, 2024, Spain was the better team, but not immensely better. After the match against the Netherlands one could have been optimistic for the penalty shooting.
First Southgate was criticized, reaching the final he became a hero, then one wished that he left. My respect for Southgate, he knew what he had to do,
I'm not discussing the role of the WAGS, but I must admit, all were very beautiful.
several no way,1-2 maybe
@@alexandrosmironis6093 Good evening alexandros, maybe you are right.
The two of us know that no one can predict the future.
Sí, sí, pero la 🍸 para España .
Los eternamente infravalorados, qué sí la fiesta , qué sí la siesta , qué sí son vagos bla .bla.bla .
I agree with this comment, this video encapsulates part of the problem the whole media and fans goes from hubris to despair to hubris to despair and there is no or little proper long term planning. But the margins are fine and the team is preforming well
@@maastrictisokokokI do fear that fans have no idea how good they’ve had it under Southgate. He’s the least unsuccessful England manager in half a century, and it’s not even close.
The problem with England is: i) they always think they have a 'golden generation', when neutral observers don't think much of their players compared to international talent, ii) they always blame the manager when they lose (or the referee, the ball, the pitch, the food, the fans, etc.) but rarely the players, iii) they think that club football success in the Champions League is some proxy to national success, forgetting to mention that these 'English' clubs are packed full of some of the best international players in the planet - i.e. take away the international talent and the club success in European club tournaments would be average at best, iv) the media build the England team up to be the favourites in every Euro/World Cup tournament and they never live up to this because expectations are set too high (again, confusing club-level success - where there are a lot of international players - with presumed national success where one cannot rely on international talent) compared to where the level of quality really is. Remember, in Euro 2024, England was in the easiest group and had by far the easiest path to the Final (playing the weakest countries) and despite this, they struggled and barely got through a lot of matches (penalties vs Switzerland for goodness sakes). Spain, by contrast, was somehow not a tournament favourite, despite being a team packed with natural, young talent, and showed controlled and exciting football throughout the tournament, playing what amounted to three 'Finals' on their path to the real Final - recall that Spain beat Italy (2021 winners) in the group stage, beat Germany (host nation) in the quarter final and beat France (multiple previous Euro winner) in the semi finals, just to get to the Final with England. Also, please don't blam Sven Goran Eriksson. He was an excellent manager and the best in Europe at the time. He had enormous success in Italy and Portugal, so when I hear players saying tactics were not there, this is total nonsense. The players were immature, uneducated, selfish and vain so they couldn't play as a team and they could never concentrate on beating their opponents as they were too busy trying to settle petty scores between themselves.
The same Switzerland that played Italy off the park in the previous round? Show some respect. All the top teams have needed penalties at one time or another. & you're calling England out for WINNING their shoot-out!! You're damned if you do...
@@jackbadger8176 Shootouts are a lottery. Switzerland are an average team. Italy underestimated them. England were the worst team to reach a Euro finals in very many years.
@@klmn2000 Penatly shootouts are no lottery. There are penalty takers with high conversion rates and those with worse ones. There are goalkeepers who often save penatlies and those who almost never do. Shootouts might look like a lottery but they are not. They are just about the finest margins, not luck.
@@Harry-tb8yo It's down to mindset and nerves. That's all. All footballers representing their country have the skill to convert.
@@klmn2000 Mindset and nerves play a role, sure. But how come that some players regularly take penalties for their teams while others do not? How come that Donnaruma saves more penalties than other GK?
Jamal Musiala definitely made a great decision playing for germany. England dont deserve jude. Look at the entire media now attacking him. Though he wasnt at his best. He literally was never the problem there.
There was 2 reasons Musiala desided to play at Germany:
BREXIT
AND SOUTHGATE IGNORING TO CALL HIM....
Do your research
England got to the final. Germany got knocked out at the QF stage.
@@bonglesnodkins329England got the lucky side of the bracket and still barely beat Slovakia, Switzerland and the Netherlands by a questionable penalty. Everyone knew that Spain vs Germany was the real final
@@jenniferwang6367 No, it wasn't. Germany were quarter finalists. England have bettered them in each of the last four tournaments. England only lost to one team in the tournament, and that was Spain. The end.
@@bonglesnodkins329 the Germany team from last euros was a completely different team. I’m talking about the Germany team rn and England team rn. You’re delusional if you think England could actually beat Germany. If you would’ve faced France or Portugal you’d be also out.
The real problem of England is the fans, period.
Huh? Tf did I do wrong?😂
Also, football skills. ✌️😎
How is it the fans fault? The fans have been screaming for the FA to fire Southgate and get a more tactical, attack minded and daring manager since 2018.
Yeah I know they shouldn't want or believe that there team can win! What loser wants to win?
How did you work that one out? 😂
Well, it is a mixture of many things. Spanish football was in a similar position a few decades ago; when LaLiga was the "Star's League". We were the best league, but the national team always failed. Spanish players were not used to be the main protagonist of the teams; formation was not the keystone of every team; we were the richest ones; so, it was unnecessary to seize and develop a really strong tactician and player formation system. We did not export players on that time; so, our players were less competitive and able to adapt to different kinds of styles.
In addition, Spanish football started a formative revolution during the 90s (not just in La Masia). On national team and club level. Less physicality and more understanding of the game and technical training. This kind of making things started on England just a decade ago.
When the economic crisis arrived to LaLiga, we were forced to seize our football schools, export players and harvest the previous job done by national football federation. It took decades. That's similar in countries like France or Portugal, where there's a huge national football formation network (very young taleted players like Mbappe or Tchouameni were selected to be trained on national team academy when they were youngsters searching for a team).
English football was very coarse and isolated of the ultimate football revolutions until premier league (mainly the Sacchi and Cruyff innovations), further more after the europe's ban from competitions in 1985, and started to be important and modernized on the late 2000s. You began to implement football formation like in Spain or France even lately. Now you have started to produce modern players instead of English players; but there's a lack of modern national coaches with its own ideas. It will take time cause you need coaches that experienced and developed modern football mentality instead of the old English one.
At the end, modern English football is still in its infancy; like I said, just a few years ago Premier League wasn't even as professional as other leagues; first Spanish players that arrived to PR talked about the lack of structure and method inside clubs during 2000s. I even remember Malouda talking about the lack of the minimum tactical knowledge of English players when he arrived to Chelsea. Players like Phoden, Bellingham, Grealish or Saka are starting to show how can be national english football in a few years. You are doing well, but takes time!
Bingo, much better than the video or many other comments: It's systemic and takes time and finally there has to be a tactical coach and manager-system in place at national level also... which is the main reason England under Southgate got to late-stage tournament football before then finally losing, after narrowly almost losing in previous games/rounds.
There's too much sentimentality and emotional noise around football for obvious reasons and these sorts of videos pump out that product. The real reasons are technical and systematic as you describe in other nations' achieving success. Thanks for talking some sense and intelligence.
You smart
@@commentarytalk1446 Exactly! I didn't mention that during all the spanish football development; there was another keystone: a great national school of coaches and a "great coach" that revolutionise the tactics inside the league and "create school". In Spain many coaches and old players felt in love of positional gaming and now, after decades we have a lot of them. In case of Italy, the "strangest" case; many of their success is because Sacchi's revolution; but they are stuck in it and now they have problems to compite.
I hope Premier League will develop english coaches that has learn from foreign coaches experiences; but I don't know why, that's not the case right now; even on national terms; I don't know either why there's no coach that follow Fergie's legacy.
I always suspected that England never took football seriously enough for long periods in the last 55 years. England didn't take football very seriously from 1970-1990 and then again England didn't take football seriously from about 2004-2018. By the time developing the national team was on the agenda again it was around 2014. So it has only been around 10 years since the FA actually wanted to change it.
A Spaniard here. England are getting closer to win. Closer and closer. Undeniable signs: 1) they have reached the last two Euro finals; 2) they have reached the semis and the quarters in the last two World Cups; and, very important, 3) they are now consistently successful in U21, U19 etc... competitions. Those signs (realities) are unprecedented when considered as a whole.
Honestly, I think it is just a question of time, and a little bit (just a bit) of luck. Things to perhaps improve: what did it to us was probably having a large number of players playing abroad (Torres at the time, for starters), although it is not a requirement (see Italy). This may be important because when players go abroad, they usually are signed by NOT leading teams, so they do have to battle against tougher competition almost every week, building in the process a better character, unlike what happens when they belong to, say, Madrid or Barcelona.
Spain are entering their prime so its unlikely that England will win anything
🏴here I think we just need to stop parking the bus, didn’t go well against Croatia or Italy
They have players capable of winning but no managers. There is not a single English manager who won their PL since it has been introduced in the 90s.
What England needs most is a good manager.Also reaching a final is a good achievement for England.All these comments r just showing their hatred for England rather than the national team
at least spain and greece won an international trophy despite their team's rivalry
It's cuz best players in the league are foreigners like Salah, Son, De bryune, Bernardo silva, Romero, Saliba and Odegaard not English players,
Why is it too hard to understand for the english media
Funny that an English player won both the prem pots and laliga pots. It’s down to the management end of story. Swap the managers around in that final and who lifts the trophy? There’s your answer.
The pots was literally English.
Conveniently leaving out Rice, Saka, Palmer, Foden. Son and Salah haven't been the Prem's best for a few years now.
Delusional take. Kane had 44 goals in 45 games for Bayern. Bellingham won La Liga PotS in his first year at RM. Foden won EPL PotY, and YPotY twice before. Saka won it last year. 5 English players were in the Premier League TotS. Nobody is saying that England should be competing to win because of the quality of the EPL, they are saying that England should be competing to win because the players on the pitch are undisputably good enough to compete with the likes of France, Germany, and Spain if they have a decent manager behind them.
@@bluesEvanskro It's also constantly down to wouda, couda, shouda. Creating "reasons" (aka excuses) that are backed up by nothing. Your point is like saying "let the teams swap jerseys and see who's going to win".
We fell behind with new tactics and coaching methods due to being excluded from European competitions for years
England is the only team I know that can make it to the final of a major tournament, yet everyone still moans about how we’re so rubbish. Granted, the football was pretty underwhelming for most of the tournament and we were definitely outclassed by a superior Spanish side in the end, but we were still one of only two teams to make it that far. The notion of “we had the easier side of the draw” just displays arrogance and basically says that Switzerland and Netherlands were both rubbish (which they were not). No side is easy when it comes to knockout football. If people just stop expecting that England should deserve to win and just celebrate when the team does well then maybe the pressure this country puts on our players would stop them becoming bottle jobs. Seriously, the England team is damned if it goes out early, damned if it loses in the final and no doubt most people would damn the team even if they did miraculously win.
And to those crying about how England plays “boring” football, well we still made it further than everyone else but Spain, so maybe your teams should just play a bit better.
With help from ref in semi final against Holland. Never a penalty
let's be serious please, it is objective that in these Europeans (like those of 2021 and the 2018 World Cup), England moved forward thanks to relatively easy groups and draws. Of course, Holland and Switzerland are not scarce, but they are not France, they are not Spain or Germany, they are not Portugal. England ALWAYS loses against strong and renowned teams, and struggles a lot against good or modest teams. The reason for all this is simple: England is not a great national team, it is a good national team, inferior to the greats of world football (Brazil Argentina Germany Italy France Spain), and on the same level as national teams such as Belgium and Holland
@@michaelpower4372England were clearly the better side in that match. And technically it WAS a penalty, although refs often won’t apply the letter of the law for contact fouls in the area that come after the shot has been made.
“Maybe your teams should just play a bit better” is exactly why English fans are delusional. You had one of the most Mickey Mouse runs to the final and still barely beat your opponents. Spain vs Germany or Spain vs France could have easily been the final had the bracket gone the other way. The “boring” football is due to playing to not lose vs playing to win, how can you have less expected goals than Croatia who were bounced after the group stages
That's not true. I'm German and saw my team reaching tournament finals regularly. In some of these tournaments I wondered how they were able to do it with their playstyle. The World Cups 1986 and 2002 come to mind. If they had won the World Cup in those years it wouldn't have felt great for me. Those teams didn't play exciting enough to really enjoy it. Same with Euros 1992. Yes, they reached the final but in the group stage they struggled heavily and got convinvingly beaten by the Netherlands. It would not have felt right if they had won that thing, knowing all too well that they were not the best team in that tournament. Winning something is nice, yes. But how to enjoy that if your team is not a joy to watch?
Bellingham performs a pirouette - the next Zidane. Hahahahaha. I lost count of the no. of times he lost possession during the Euro campaign.
More than a half of the so called golden generation's players have never been considered legends outside England.
Yes about the premiers league but
The clubs
Owners
Best players
Are
Not English
Facts
English players are getting way better it’s just they can’t find a manager
THIS! This is exactly the reason why they'll keep losing. England is a country built on the backs of foreigners and yet they'll still act like they are the dogs bollocks. Little Englander mentality is the reason they'll keep crashing out and we'll always love to see it. Go yap about the PL when the owners, players, and managers are all foreign. Only English thing about the PL is the refereeing and it's the only disliked aspect lmao
Because the Epl has had a lot of foreign managers over the last 15 to 20 years, the youth team coaching at club level has started
to produce really good English youth players. And during southgates reign as the England manager, the youth teams have managed
to win 4 european championship and 3 world cups. 2 of those youth tournament have been won by beating spains youth teams
in the final. once in the 2017 u17 world cup and once in the 2023 u21 euro's. So theres nothing wrong with the youth system
they actually produce some fantastic players, the problem is the senior team manager.
@@err4071 lol who do you think manages those youth teams at a club level? STILL FOREIGN MANAGERS! You keep saying "it's coming home" but what home? What is England's brand of football? What have they contributed to the game besides some rules over 150 years ago which have changed time and time again? Where was England when the Central Europeans were reforming the sport in the 50s? When the Dutch created Total Football in the 70s? When the French were producing players with the flair of Zidane? When the Italians were bringing defenders out of this world? When the Germans were fielding battle-hardened ultra cynical and efficient squads? When the Spanish were introducing tiki taka? Nah mate, no youth players are going to save you. You need to humble up, acknowledge that you are the actual bottom of the "big teams" and start from there. From there you can start by managerial consistency at the youth level with a consistant and tailored to English football style of play. The FA also needs to incentivize new coaches to come to the fray and get UEFA licenses. Just look at a video from the Athletic about the staggering differences between German and English coaches. There are tons and I mean TONS of issues to solve here.
The main problems are the sheer lack of self-awareness, the arrogance, and the lack of humility. Every single time a major tournament rolls around, I have to stop watching British pundits and reading the British media because I can't stand their deluded assumption that England is amongst the best teams in the world. They are not - anyone who has any knowledge of football knows this. At best, England are a second-tier football team. They are NOT at the same level as teams like Spain, Germany, Italy, or France. But the British media would have you believe that they are. Before the recent Euros final against Spain, there were British pundits like Paul Merson claiming that England should "easily" handle Spain! The delusion of these British pundits is off the charts.
RTE is first class.
So much better than BBC
and the likes.
England ARE among the best teams in the world. Top ten, clearly. Top five, maybe. Top three, probably not.
Most English pundits and fans thought Spain were the favourites in the final.
Stop talking shite all your life.
And you've listened to the pundits from every country to compare, yeah?
English players pass the ball sideways or backwards..they have been taught to play like this since they were kids..spanish players are taught to take risks play the ball forward be comfortable in tight spaces. English fans think players are good because they can run fast
That was typically in the 2010s and maybe mid-late 2000s. The more recent groups of English players have come through a different system.
This problem goes back a lot longer than 2006 lol
This is such a Gen Z video.
England didn't qualify for much before the late 1990s. England did consistently qualify for tournaments in the 21st century and 2006 was the start of the poor performances at major tournaments.
To win a tournament, have midfielders who can easily score from behind at any opportunity. Get goalscorers who can score in any direction the ball is coming to them. Get at least a dribbler who knows how to reduce the opponents upfront and good defenders. Have a good teamwork.
Getting to 2 consecutive Euro finals is no mean feat. Southgate's England team is actually pretty good. They look really solid all round, and there are some great talents on the team. They look like they can beat anyone on their day.
Precisely, no. Last few tournaments they won knockout matches against: Colombia, Sweden, Germany, Ukraine, Denmark, Senegal, Slovakia, Switzerland and the Netherlands and got knocked out by Croatia, Italy, France and Spain. That is the very opposite of "can beat anyone" and the very definition of "will come unstuck against any good team".
Especially if you face teams on particular on par with you.The fist technically gifted team you face you slump.
Ah, this bs trope about back to back finals. Are you serious, as others have said, what teams has England faced to get there? Jeez, how difficult is it to comprehend that? Sounds like someone winning the lottery twice and bragging what a great businessman he is.
@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia Lost to Italy on penalties. France score from outside the box following a foul, then Kane balloons a penalty over the bar. Yeah idk, England were genuinely better than France on the day but sometimes the worse team wins (just like how Slovakia should have beat us this year but we got lucky).
@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia Under a different manager, England wouldn't have even beaten those teams. The Netherlands and Germany are tough teams and I'm pretty sure England under the previous two managers had lost to a Dutch team that didn't even qualify for Euro 2016. Also England's first group match was against Croatia in the 2020 Euros and they managed to win that match.
You're missing the point, again and again. You think that you have a golden generation; you think your team is the best in the world, YOU THINK. While the other teams are figuring out how to win a trophy, you think you already won. And then when you don't win, you make up excuses. Oh, that's the manager. Oh, that's the young player. Oh, that's this and that. The problem is that the Premier League is the best league in the world, and you think that this automatically translates in England being just as good. But you forget that the Premier League is also weak and growing weaker in terms of tactics in favour of mindless (but well paid) spectacle. That price tags are inflated and inflate the value of players, especially english young talents. What England needs is a little less hubris.
This is such embarrassing nonsense that you talk.
So you're telling me that a manager like pep or klopp couldn't have won that final with the English team?
@@tieforest4871 Honestly, no. The spanish team (as well as the French and German team) was better.
@@tieforest4871 Klopp doesn't have the best record in finals to put it mildly. But to be fair even Marcello Lippi, who has an equally bad CL final record, managed to win the biggest final he reached. Klopp's chances of winning the latest Euro finals would have been just slightly higher than Southgate's. Guardiolas chances would have been higher. But these two are typical club team managers and it takes a while for them to fully implement their way of football. The task of a national team manager is very different. They have much fewer opportunities and less time to implement their ideas. Klopp and Guardiola buid their teams to fit their playstyle. They represent a dogmatic or idealistic type of manager. Carlo Ancelotti would be a much better fit for any national team because his approach is pragmatic. Of course he has a preferred playstyle but that doesn't prevent him from playing for his teams' strengths.
England has had a lot of poor managers though so in that respect I can believe that. Remember the previous two or three managers England had before Gareth Southgate, could even get the team out of the group stage, at one point.
I blame the media who constantly over-hype our players .
Well then don't read the tabloids then.
Let's be clear about one thing: 1966 could have turned out differently, if it wasn't for a referee mistake.
England would have still won anyway
Yeah, so could 1986 vs Argentina and 2010 vs Germany. So spare me the bullshit story that England have been a lucky tournament side.
The Golden generation? 😂 English people I swear hahahahahahahhahahaha
You’re telling me this Golden Generation would’ve beaten Brazil’s team of R9, Kaka, Ronaldinho, Adriano, Cafu, Carlos? Or France’s team of Zidane, Henry, Ribery, Thuram, Vieira, Makele? Or Italy’s team of Del Piero, Pirlo, Gatusso, Totti, Cannavaro?
Spain’s midfield on the bench was better than Gerard, Lampard & Scholes. Argentina & Germany have always had better teams than us in any era of the World Cup.
It baffles me that we use a million excuses for being losers but the ONE we’ll never accept is that our players were never good enough.
Its even funny, That considered of "Peak of Golden Generation" Where Dominated by 2008 MU, 2008 Chelsea, 2005-2006 Liverpool just because they won UCL, Failed to Qualified to 2008 Euro
@@rahadityap2375 What is the point that you are trying to make?
Italy beat them even with Marchisio, Montolivo and old Pirlo in midfield haha. There was no need for Gattuso, Totti or Camoranesi
But your argument makes no sense. It’s perfectly possibly for more than country to have a “golden generation” at the same time.
@@bonglesnodkins329 A generation cannot be golden if they never have a gold medal hanging around their neck for winning something. Also keep in mind that countries like Brazil, Argentina, Italy, Germany etc. never use the term "golden generation" for any of their teams. Calling one of those teams golden generation wouldn't do justice to the other generations that also won trophies.
A non- football fan could see that English players (and Irish, Scottish, welsh, and some other Northern Europeans) are technically inferior to Latin Europeans and Latin Americans.
The EPL hypes these players for marketing their product. The EPL is all about hustle and bustle, aggression and entertainment, which is a big positive for the EPL. International football is about keeping possession, which english players are unable to do. At the end of the day, the english players are not up to international level and this has been proven since 1974!
EPL football is played at 100mph with the ball flying over the midfielders heads most of the time and the other team returns the favour by doing the same the opposite direction
Speed, power and grit. That's typical EPL game. Oh with some meaty tackles to get the crowd pumped😢
It’s just “the Premier League”, not “the EPL”.
This video is spot on 👌
The pundits of the Uk created all those expectations about the England team
English entitlement is crazy. They’re considered average at best internationally
Football and Rugby I noticed them 😂
@@magdelinem6962 Funny, can you name another country that has won a world cup in both sports?
@@VeryIntellijent Aaaaw sweetie triggered!😉
@@magdelinem6962 In rugby England are one of the better teams, consistently getting top four finishes. Football not so much but I think in the UK rugby is taken more seriously.
Fun fact since 2000 every world champion has won some sort of tournament whether that’s the world cup , euro or copa america , englands the only one who hasant
If you think about it England didn't qualify for much until about 2000 and for most of the 21st century hasn't really been taking football seriously enough. That has now started to change.
'...Hargreaves, Carrick..' picture of carragher 🤣
England will win when they compete as Great Britain.
Even in 1966 the third goal by England was fortunate as the ball was not over the line ( computer graphic clearly shows).
A lot of teams goals should not have counted back then how about ENG vs ARG quarter finals game the hand ball goal
The fourth was, though.
It depends on which camera view. If you look at the sideline footage, no it doesn't but then the camera has very choppy movements. If you look at the view from the pitch, the ball bounces off green grass rather than a white goal line.
Rio Ferdinand said Carrick as in Michael Carrick not Carragher. Jamie Carragher was an average defender. Carrick was a brilliant passing midfielder, the closest thing England had to a Pirlo and typical England they didn't know what to do with him.
England's problem will always be the same: to think they are more than they are, to have no self-criticism, to be dishonourable, to over-talk and underestimate their rivals.
Absolute nonsense. Stick to what you know.
You just proved his point.
@@dommccabe17 Morons will be morons. No getting away from that.
Literally none of what you said is true, if anything there's far too much self-criticism and honour given to rivals.
@@Yimello Yeah, it's fucking amazing how widespread this urban myth is. Basically, most of the world believes X because somebody else told them that X is true, because somebody else told that person that X is true.
None of it is based upon direct experience.
Too much money in the EPL going into players pockets and not enough going to investment in the grass roots.
I don't think bonds and friendships correlates to winning. I doubt the likes of Casillias and Ramos were best mates with the likes of Pique, Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta.
The reason we have been perennial losers in my lifetime and the foreseeable future is due to team cohesion and bravery. We have a weird obsession on trying to pigeonhole all our superstars into the team, which always leads to subpar performances due to players being played out of position.
Why was Trippier our left back/Left wing back option over Mitchell, Alfie Doughty and Leif Davies who all had good seasons.
Too many Superstar players who want the ball to feet. No pace or runners in behind to keep are opposition defenders honest.
Good bonds and friendship are not necessary to win things but a good chemistry and teamspirit certainly do not prevent you from winning. Sometimes this gives a team the edge over its opponent. Small things add up. The spanish players from 2008 to 2012 were able to put club rivalries aside when they played in the national team. Del Bosque as their coach did the same. He is a Real Madrid legend as a player and manager but when he took over the Spanish national team the vast majority of players were from Barcelona. It was like Barcelona without Messi and Mascherano but with Casillas and Ramos. Not a bad swap if you ask me. Casillas and Xavi were and are indeed good mates, regardless of the rivalry of their clubs.
The players are talented but mentality and constant media saturation has skewed our evolution terribly, factor in the huge contribution of foreign talent in the form of Managers & players at club level, and you have a football nation that has not yet fully developed it's own identity and elite level brand of football internationally (it has not evolved as quickly as we have wanted it to since the days of kick and rush, long ball) I do believe we have improved greatly but the other nations have also continued doing so, particularly the big guns, who have continued developing from a starting point that was already ahead of us. Realistically we are still playing catch up when it comes to intelligence and tactical nous, I personally feel that's what has cost us in the last two finals, but it shouldn't be discredited because the evidence is there for all to see in the results of the recent previous tournaments.
Our grit and determination have got us to finals which is easier said than done, (greater teams than us have choked in finals against lesser opponents) I believe that with the younger generation of players (and managers) brought up on a more modern style of play, with time can come good and win something..it will just take longer than we all want it to, people easily forget that for decades teams like France, Spain and Netherlands fell short, and trophies were dominated by the Germans, and South Americans .. I bet nobody in the comments ever expected in this day and age that Brazil would be in the current situation they are? but times change and in reality it can only be for better or worse..as long as we keep working on our weak points, we will get there eventually.
This is the thing England lose and you just get a lot of spiteful people talking absolute nonsense, How can they be overrated It's back to back finals, semifinals, always in the mix, win ratio very high only just got beat with a 83 minute winner goal to call Bellingham overrated when he's 21 years old, to call any of them overrated with how young most of these players are is crazy. The tactics is what's off and the inability to want to run at players and going to the space. This is where the manager has to drill them because they don't play like that in the premier League or wherever they go They shine so to call them overrated It's just spiteful nonsense from people who just love to h8 on English people for some reason It's really weird.. It's like an incompetent inside them.. or even jealousy.. I had people in the comments from places like Poland and Portugal trying to claim somehow they won because Spain won no idiot Spain won Spain alone and they deserved it..
At the end of the day this was a bad tournament all around most teams with great players did nothing would you call it in Mbappe overrated.. I don't remember seeing him in the last two finals but he's still an amazing player..
Look at the bracket. This is why they get to final 2 times in a row.
@@gold9994 okay but that's tournament football.. You're not saying anything we don't know..
And it is what it is. It's not about where you go who you play but where you end up..
There's always one like you who do or say anything to take away an achievement from the England team It's just a bias I have bais too..
But to try and take away their achievements in the last 6 years that's just sad dude I definitely wouldn't do that to your team..
@@gold9994 I can find excuses as well like managerial fuck ups..
All that is Euro 2024 was the worst I've ever watched the least amount of goals I've ever seen the tightest games I've ever seen..
So it was pretty easy for Spain as well wasn't it seeing as how everybody was playing shit except them..
@@K.J._x8x_MMAAgreed the anti English agenda is crazy and a lot of it has nothing to do with the england national team. I think it stems from this idea that the English media overates players and the team which is complete nonsense as the English media have slated England teams religiously and love dragging down players. The overating of players is not uniquely English others do it just as much if not more, remember how xavi Simmons was destined to be the successor of xavi/iniesta dembele the next Messi 😂😂😂. I once even heard germans in 2014 say mario gotze was the new Ronaldo everyone does this but if the English do it, it's arrogance.The demonisation of england fans in particular pises me off if you speak to england fans they're one of the most grounded and least arrogant fan bases about. I saw a Scotland fan on TV say Scotland was gonna win the euros and no-one called him arrogant nor should they its a fan supporting his team as your supposed to. It's as if English fan's and media can't celebrate when the team wins or be hopeful of winning the tournament when that's what football is all about at its core.
@@jamiemcghin5689 💯 facts You have said it better than I could dude..
I thought I'm the only one who think that Bellingham is overrated.
Good to know that there are still football fans with basic logic / common sense.
Southgate biggest and dumbest mistake was building the team around Bellingham. He doesn't realize that if he want to build a team around 1 player , that player MUST be the leader , the smartest , the most skillful , the most dependable , the most creative , and the most consistent one. Bellingham is not that kind of player , his quality is nowhere near that level.
He's not even reached sami khedira level yet. It's impossible for him to play the role of Zidane or Messi. He will never reach that level.
The problem with england is the same problem that manchester united has..... And that is mentality too much arrogance not enough humility and worst of all giving into narratives instead of looking at actual performances......
I feel it the English media and fan is also responsible in overhyping the situation and leading it to influence in the decisions of manager and pressurized the players as well.
How do you know England will never win trophies? Can you see 10, 20, 30 years into the future?
Because it’s been 58 years and no matter how many good players they have they still don’t win anything
@@ibrahimk9874 England didn't qualify for much until 2000, since then they haven't taken football very seriously. I think England only took football seriously from 1966-1970 then 1982-1990 and then 1996-2004 and then 2018-2024. Thats only short periods of no more than 8 years.
@@thomsonfly645k still
It’s bad coaching from grassroots up. They absolutely hate flair. Too flashy. Its the English working class mentality. If you can do things with the ball others can’t your flashy and the amateur coaches hate it. It’s also a purely working class game in England. A lot of foreign players have a higher IQ and degree level education. They train smart and play smart. England is all about heart but no brains
All the problems with England stem from two issues: overrated players on the one hand and delusional, out-of-touch expectations from the media and fanbase on the other. Regarding the players, individual English players may be very talented, even world class. However to play effectively as a team you need some levels of football intelligence and courage. Both of which are severely lacking in most English players. This lack of intelligence and courage is even reflected in the English managers and even their referees. I don't know if this is a DNA thing but it's very plain to see even tho it's very painful for fans to admit. The biggest irony is they call themselves the 3 lions. Oh please stop insulting lions already.
Mate. Every England fan I spoke to fully expected us to get smashed by the Swiss or the Dutch.
English re risk averse. Compared to Americans which also is anglophone
Agree 💯 there is no spice or flavour with English teams. No tactical nous or much football IQ to understand the ebbs and flow of a game.
"To understand why England hasnt won a trophy since 1966 we have to go all the way back to 2006."
This is really silly. Yes England still haven't come away with a trophy and this has gone on for a long time but they are knocking on the door because they are getting deeper into tournaments now more success on penalties compared to the past more success at getting to the latter end of the tournaments. You can't say that the players don't have quality come on. Jude Bellingham winning player award for RM team. Foden being the player for Man city. Yes, they still haven't quite got over the finishing line but with the right coaching and Manager who is tactically better than Southgate and the quality the current team has England can challenge for a trophies in the future. I do feel this is too negative. Saying England will never win trophies, how do you know can you see into the future?? Your basing the past failures on your theory that will affect how things go years into the future. Sport doesn't work like that.
If the "golden generation" were managed by Harry Rednap they would have won the world cup
Honestly, as an england fan, There are some england players that do good, kane is kinda good at taking penaltys but its very wrong for him to face hate. Bukayo saka had saved england in the quarter finals with his goal, and now he faces racism just as he did after losing euro 2020. Kobbie mainoo did very well. But the thing is people need to appreciate the players we have, harry kane has to face severe hate because apparently hes a curse, listen no curse exists they dont he just has a hard time trying to score, zlatan didnt win much trophies i dont even know if he won any trophies just awards, Bukayo saka is literally facing racism, there is no space for racism at all it is absolutely wrong. And bellingham is only 21 these players are still young they should not be facing hate its unbelievable we need to grow up and show respect.
@@romorobloxkalubi5372 lol Maino ran around like a headless chicken against Spain 😆
Zlatan, I guess you mean Ibrahimovic, didn't win many trophies? 12 League titles (2 x Netherlands, 1 x Spain, 5 x Italy, 4 x France), a few national cups, some league cups, the club world cup and also the Europa League.
@@Bread_Garlichouse Hes like headless chicken for the whole tournament. But english media hyping him up just because hes young. The same case with bellingham, hes done some normal things midfielder do but everyone glazing him so hard. English people are delusional.
As an England fan I think a lot of the ‘fan base’ need to support the team unconditionally and not have such high expectations, unfortunately the media and RUclipsrs like that Rory don’t help. A lot of nations would give everything to qualify for major tournaments and/or make it out the group stages so it has been great to have been able to get to two finals, semifinal and a quarterfinal. We are going to have a tough WC 26 🇺🇸🇲🇽🇨🇦 qualifying group coming up so need to get behind the new manager and team! England may not get to another final let alone win a trophy but true/proper fans will support the new manager and team regardless! 🏴
1. Don`t make one man (Southgate) the scapegoat for everything
2. Your league is not the best - it is merely the most expensive one
@1:30 "All of these players are considered footballing legends today." Absolutely nobody outside of England thinks these players are footballing legends. Maaaybe Beckham and Gerrard, but winning one Champions League trophy really isn't enough to be considered a legend either.
I think the English view is applied in the video. Every country has its legends and most of them are legends only in that specific country. Only the very exceptional players are considered legends in other countries as well: Pelé, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Messi, CR7, R9, Beckenbauer, Charlton, Eusebio...
I know it's all speculations but if after the equilizer England would have kept pressing like they did for about 5 minutes they might have had a chance to win it... But they had to change tactics and stand deep again... The were literally asking for the 2-1...
Because they think is the best team but not so many team but lost so many
Don't blame the media, people expect England to play good because they should.
Massive red flag in mentality when players start blaming "media" for putting pressure... I mean, that's what players do, you represent your country, both glory and pressure. If you don't want it, reject the national recruitment
The media has built Bellingham up to be the next messiah, and the kid has believed it himself… now that all what the expected from him didn’t pan out like they’d hope… they’re taking back their hype of an average footballer.
We must admit that this is probably the beat English National Team of All Time. They never reached so often the semi-final before and Southgate should receive a bit credit for that.
@@PaulvonderHeyden easy draws. Lost to the first quality opposition they faced as usual. Nothing earth shattering
Who did they play this year? As soon as they met a decent opponent, they stumbled. Spain on the other hand had to beat Germany, France and Italy.
Never say never. I’m a 40 years old spaniard that grew up listening over and over again that Spain was never gonna win a World Cup. People said that there was a quarters curse in this competitions, since we never got pass it. Of course England can win it. Just keep trying. Nothing is impossible.
I think ppl also just forget that the WC is rly hard to win in general that’s another thing
2006 team was way more overrated than the current one. I never understood the hype on Lampard and Gerard, especially when put together. They didn't add up.
Both are legendary and generational players
Both miles better than any current English player
The 2006 team had better players but played poorly, the 2024 team had worse players and also played poorly.
Bellingham is not overrated. He had a great season at Real Madrid, scored and created lots of goals, and had previously been a revelation at Dortmund. He is one of the best players in the world.
The signs are there that it could be going to his head though, and this is a testing moment for him. He had a poor Euros tournament, showed poor attitude and will either learn from it, or it might start to affect his club form. But you can't call him overrated just yet.
To be honest, England always have a favorable draws. In world cup 2018, Euro 2020 and now presently, they are in the knockout stages facing dark horses all the time instead of the top 5 favorites. What if England was at the other side where France, Spain, Portugal, Germany and Belgium waiting for them?
So far England is not impressive at all! They still can't beat the top 5 favorites. They lost to Croatia and Belgium during semifinals of world cup 2018. Then to Italy in the Euro 2020 finals. Then to France in the World Cup 2022 quarter finals. And now Spain in the Euro 2024. They have not shown any good quality playing against the world top 6 teams.
Belgium, lol.
EXACTLY. THEY HAVE REACHED 2 FINALS PLAYING 14 MATCHES AGAINST NOBODY UNTIL THE FINALS. UEFA HAS DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE THEM WIN AND THEY STILL CAN'T.
@@TIGRE979spot on always get easy groups
@@TIGRE979 oh is it? Do fifa or uefa specially arranged them to meet the simple opponents and the dark horses team only? Is this a set up and match fixing game?
@@WilliamJMartinj YES BECAUSE ENGLISH FOOTBALL FEDERATION BRINGS MORE MONEY TO UEFA AND FIFA THAN ANY OTHER NATION. THEY NEVER WON ANYTHING AND THEY WANT TO CONFUSE THE PUBLIC THERE ARE A STRONG TEAM
england like to start players base of their names. look at italy 2006 materazzi was starting snd nesta was benched cause materazzi was having a better form , while england will always play the bignames hahaha
your biggest problem is your self-pity mixed with arrogance.
England’s biggest problem?
@@Ballers.Finesse yes
Getting to back to back Euro finals is hardly a bad thing, it's much better than what Roy Hodgson's England (and Fabio Capello) ever did. I'm not a huge fan of the England team compared to other teams, but for many countries getting to a final would be seen as a good thing, even if you did not win that final. That makes me wonder if this argument is in good faith.
People conveniently forget how bad England were as a team in the 12-15 years before Gareth Southgate took over. In truth England had not played well at a tournament since 2004, and they had not won a knockout match since 2006.
Nearly 60 years. Zero trophies
@@dulcettonezzz8229 What's your point? It's evident that England haven't taken football seriously for a lot of that 60 years.
Well, if you cannot even stop Cucurella (not really Roberto Carlos) what would you expect
Cucurella had a great competition period...always comfortable on the ball...this guy doesnt just overlap...he underlaps...a full back who always wants the ball? puts Trippier and Walker to shame
The Golden generation said who? Based on what?..More humbleness and hard work and less showing off over nothing.
Spain had an extra day of rest. Even the media pointed it out. Fifa should change the rules.
Dry your eyes
Team on the top side of the bracket/draw usually get the extra day. Only time it was the easier bracket was in Euro 2016.
I grew up hearing why Spain can never win a trophy. Infact, they said Spain was synonymous to pain. I mean just look at this: Spain=S+pain. Yet in the last 16 years, they're most successful team, winning the Euros in 2008, the World Cup in 2010, then the Euros again in 2012, and now they're champions again here in 2024. Even the French team of 1998 or 2018 haven't been able to do that.
8:00 pretty sure that's Jamie Carragher
But thanks for the interview parts at the beginning. I only knew about Barcelona & real Madrid players having similar issues for the Spanish national team.
i think he said Carragher
Oh I am sorry, yeah you are right of course. Since he was listing "midfielders" I was expecting to hear "Carrick".😅
For me, it's the sense of entitlement and sheer arrogance that is coming from the general fans and media, screaming "it's coming home", as if _claiming_ the trophy as theirs from the very beginning because England is where football was coming from.
I reckon the "it's coming home" chant is more harmless that it was portrayed. That it is just a song and it is used to give positive vibe to the fans who are enthutiastic with football. For me, does it really matter? For it's not rare for such a harmless chant to be expressed in an arrogant way.
Anyway. England need to learn humility. For them to not win anything in this many years is a blessing to football in general. For if they win because of their arrogance, then their sense of entitlement would only grow even more.
Good GOD, how many times does it need to be said? The song “Three Lions (It’s Coming Home)” is NOT about England expecting to win a trophy. It’s about keeping the faith after so much failure. Have you seriously never listened to the lyrics? It’s not about a trophy at ALL, it’s about hosting a major football tournament in England for the first time in three decades.
To be honest i think alot of the English pundits were saying before the Swiss Euro 2024 match, 'this is a dangerous team that can beat us'..Pre Iceland 2016 defeat,you would almost never hear that...
@@kailashpatel1706 I think you're right about that. England in the 2010s were horrible, probably one of the worst teams in Europe if you ask me.
Madrid PR crazy tho😂😂😂
Rubbish
Nah, bellignham PR crazy
He made his name at Birmingham city and dortmund
@AntiChris84 yh that is true, but his popularity really grew when he went to Real Madrid really that's when we all started talking about him but he did prove him self in the first part of the season for madrid really putting more eyes on him
@@jaedonbeckford9021yea but your saying it as if it's his fault the everyone talk about or his 'pr' even without it he is still one of the best players in the world
What's a goddamn shame is that we didn't see the English playing with enthousiasm and passion like a team. I wish every team (and especially their manager/trainer) would strive to achieve this. Football would be so much more fun to watch.
You have to learn to beat the better teams to win those tournaments. England's strategy - not just this year, for over 2 decades - has consisted of beating teams like Slovakia and Ukraine and hoping to avoid the big opposition until very late. It's just that with the expansion of the tournaments, particularly the Euros, those games against France/Spain now come much later than before.
Not really, England ended up having to play Germany 3 years ago, who had a better team than England in their first knockout match. I think Germany would've been expected to win because England are generally a much worse team.
Never say never
Never
Never...you mug.
8:01 tells you everything you need to know about this guys knowledge of this subject.
Anyone who thinks Bellingham is overrated has zero clue about football.
Agreed. I think England’s current generation is very talented. We need a manager who trusts them over an unfit Harry Kane. Now Southgate is gone, we need to pray the FA don’t do another 2016 😬
HE IS SHITTY.
There are always other teams that are more talented or cohesive, as mentioned above. For example 2006 was a great England squad but then so were Brazil, France, Italy and Portugal and these teams had cohesion as well.
And anyone who doesn’t, doesn’t know what overrated means
Zero clue about football because they don't like his ability, and can compare him to the best that ever done it. No, football opinions don't work like that. Jude is average when you put him along side the best that played for Madrid. Jude maybe ok for English lads standards. But he can't outshine foreign players. Nobody in the England squad can. English skill is about a generation behind really. When the ball goes to their feet it's like butter 😆 The older players from years ago had better ball control than this current lot. And even the old greats still didn't outshine their foreign counterparts 😂
Zero clue about football is a bad statement. Plenty of footy heads watched plenty of games over the DECADES. We know what we watched and who was shining, who had ball control and who stepped up. English players never have and if it keeps going. Never will. Jude Bellingham 😂 Behave 😆
It's because there rubbish 🗑